I think a better term for this situation is boil over (no pun intended). To keep with the heat analogy, players getting frustrated with matches will boil over when things get too heated, and they need to lower the temperature by switching to a different stove top (aka another game/activity). Do you like this metaphor?
Same. It's always the "I'm not obligated to care about your fun" killers who seem to complain, but playing by the survivor rulebook for long enough has actually been more fun, and because of the matchmaking system trying to favour fair games, when I lose enough games because of it, it tries to give me survivors that match that energy, and when I lose it's like "Obviously, I'm running three bloodpoint perks with very minor benefits (one that's actively detrimental) and undying to keep thrill of the hunt up" so it doesn't feel bad at all.
This right here! Once you accept that you can’t win every match and it’s ok to lose, the game becomes much more enjoyable! Some times I just load up a game as nemesis to run around and punch a few survivors
This. I like to let my skill do the talking. I win a fair number of my Killer rounds and I play pretty fair to do so. I like to not run too much gen control, and I prefer to run less aggro perks or perks that match my Killer. On Surv I lose, A LOT, but I only really ever SWF with friends on Discord and I also run different builds with varying purposes on every Surv I play - Nea is stealth, Laurie is an altruist, Cheryl does looping, etc. I like to try fun perks and see how well I can do with them. I accept I will lose a lot. I'm fine with that. I only get frustrated at this game when I can't progress any of my goals in an achievable way - I can't get a single hook because aggro Survs, I can't get a challenge done due to the Killer tunnelling me out, I can't use my Killer as intended, I did not pip at all despite doing my best, etc. Lack of progress and lack of getting something for my time bothers me.
The game's just stale. Bhvr needs to implement gamemodes asap. Releasing new killers and survivors isn't enough to keep people interested in this game.
What if they add Five Nights At Freddy's or Friday The 13th chapter that many players wanted for a long time? And they will implement gamemodes, probably like mid chapter or something.
I started dbd really recently. Only really started during the blood moon event. I've fallen in love with it but I definitely have noticed the harder I try the less fun I have.
I think another thing is that people like to see big flashy improvements, like hitting Billy curves for example, but as you improve, those improvements become much more subtle, and those subtle things may even be more important. I'm going to use fighting games as an example because that's what I know. People will see big flashy combos and that's what they want to learn and what they will play for. But once you get to a higher level it becomes knowing where to stand, how your character interacts with theirs, etc. The new things left to learn and experience are still very important, but they aren't the big dopamine hit like the other stuff. That's the point where you need to decide if you want to improve at the game, if you are content just executing a basic gameplan and repeating what you have learned, or if you want to go play something new.
Only reason i'm having fun is because I play survivor with a friend. If I had gone into this game by myself I would have quit or become a killer main a long time ago.
@@riseagain845 it is in many ways because you only have you to worry about. I couldn't care less about survivor so called BM ing in a game where their only defense is running from me & flashlights lol. Anyone who complains about that is a bit weak & If they really feel bullied as killer in DBD I'd hate for them to play FT13th.
(Some of this is personal thoughts, other stuff is addressing the video material, so take this as some rambling...) The problem with DBD and the "fun perception" is that "fun" can't happen if SBMM is the main matchmaking factor (debatable obviously). Why? Because the matchmaker simply doesn't work at higher levels. Killer dodges: Lobby MMR deactivates. Surv dodges: Lobby MMR deactivates. You lose 40 games in a row, you are still in the same MMR bracket. So the fundamentals for a "fun" (or alternatively "fair") environment are already out of the window. Then add onto that the current meta (as an example). As a killer it's 4 slowdowns/regression or you lose, even against a team that doesn't really try. It's just base gen speed. As surv it's what keeps you alive the longest. (Be it stealth perks, 2nd chance perks, gen speed perks, toolboxes, you name it. So basically meta.) You can't have "fun" if you can't get creative with your builds or play the game long enough, before you play lobby simulator again. (My opinion. Everyone defines fun differently.) So, if I, as an example play my main killer (if I tell you you will start to groan) and play a lore accurate build, because that's where I get my fun from, and try a few techs for clips here and there, I just lose the game with 2-8 hooks. If I play my main survivor I will either get dodged in lobby 17+ times (yes I do count sometimes) or I will get tunnelled. Yeah, I don't mind getting tunnelled, but the game does not only revolve around chase. I can already tell that people will latch onto the tunnelling part and rahrah filthy killer mains just ruining everyones fun rahrah. Lemme tell you: It's also not fun to tunnel out people because you might lose the game if you don't. With the MMR you can't tell how good the survs are or if they are a swf or not. (With a few it's obvious, with some it's not.) But to actually add onto the video itself: The game has gotten worse. Ping has gotten worse. Where I was at 25-30 a year ago I am now at 35-40 ms on my home server. Which is not that noticeable but it becomes noticeable when you suddenly have 70-80 when playing with friends on a different server, where before you had 50-60. (Take note that the other side also had an increase in latency.) Dedicated server not responding, disconnecting. (Especially at the exit gate/or before hooking the last survivor. Great times losing your 30k BP after a game well played.) Less build variety because literally everything gets "balanced", aka "no fun allowed". I know. Uncounterable stuff gotta be nerfed/changed. But balanced doesn't mean better. Lowering of the skillceiling. (P.e. removal of Skybilly, now Blight hugtech, flashlight blind timers, lightburn, the list goes on.) The rise of cheaters as well (though I don't really encounter them that often, because I just don't play as much as I used to play.) So hats off to you/someone that can actually still find their own fun, but it's a losing battle for a lot of people I guess. No need to ask for flames just because you don't play like others want you to play. If you want to win you do you. But at some point BHVR needs to learn that "if person loses 70 games in a row they actually might not be in the skill bracket they are playing in right now". Which will not happen. The easy (bandaid) fix would be to go back to grades, but at this point I'm doubting they'll ever manage the necessary changes in a timely fashion. (What I wouldn't give for a better grading system to be implemented if SBMM has to stay... yeah.) At the end of the day, yes. Winning is fun for some. Playing against lesser skilled people is fun for others. Improving is fun for a handful, etc. But it's quite obvious that a lot of things that have been fun for a lot of people don't exist any more or haven't been changed for the better. Add onto that that the game is getting older and obviously is running on spaghetti and horrible netcode. If they ever fix the core issues of the game and I don't have to predict a hit from 75 meters away, maybe I'll change my view on the topic, but as it stands... I'm tired chief.
I tracked my hours, played 1.500 hours in the first year, 900 hours in the second and 600 in my third year. And from my perspective there are different factors why it is that way. New life circumstances, friends group doesn't play anymore are some. But the biggest factor for me is that at some point you have to find peace with the core gameplay loop as survivor and/or killer because when you are done with everything (archives, achivements) there isn't much more left other then getting better in a skill you choose (like perfectioning a killer or become better in looping as survivor). And these skills aren't as easy to require as the skills for the core gameplay loop and can (or will) be frustrating over the time, especially when you're learning techs or similiar things. Another thing is that DbD has the odd thing that sometimes winning after hard matches aren't feel rewarding, because sometimes you don't necessarely win with your skill but with the mistakes of the other side (even tho that is a component of every match, but in killer games I feel that a lot more). Hope you're finding a way to deal with the frustration!
I can remember my first ever match in this game. it was in mobile my cousin showed it to me when we were at a family cottage around mid august after downloading it we played a few matches my first ever match was against the plague on a red forest map (don't remember witch one I think it was mothers dwelling) and the plague let me escape and was super cool I think I got like 2 gens done and a few saves it was probably one of my best matches ive played to this day even though I dont remember it to well and it was my first match.
I remember when and why I got it, it was just after Wesker came out and I got the game because of my brother, we never actually played together but this game has given me good friends. But the game frustrates me to no end sometimes
Having high emotional control is an important skill in general, but I feel it is especially good for this game as well. Past me left DbD at 32 hours because of a bully squad humiliation while I was still learning the game as Wraith (this was around when Nemesis was just released). This plus a constant stream of rough games because I’m new ended up getting me more and more pissed off until that bully squad match ended up being the thing that got me to quit playing. 2ish years later, I’ve returned and made it past the atrocious early game hump new players have to deal with TWICE (ps5 account and PC account). It took me the longest time to play killer again thanks to ptsd, but once I was able to change my mindset on the role and created methods to get myself to play killer again (such as having friends watch me so I can chat with them to take stress off the game), I just began to love the game again. Now I’m playing to this day and I have 600-700ish hours combined, and part of it is that I’ve just grown to accept the bullshit that can occur with both sides instead of getting tilted constantly. And as stated in a different comment on a different video on this channel: having other games or activities increases the longevity of playing this game by a ton and is a major source of stress relief. Some Terraria or Lethal Company or something goes a long way for your mental health. Always take care of yourself first over the game, folks!
Been playing since alpha days and probably having played virtually everyday for 12k+ something hours by now. I find that disabling chat and just playing trying to learn and do whatever I like and not sweating so hard has helped me consistently play the last few years despite the community constantly whining how bad the game is. I'm having more fun with the game now than I have in years, especially with the new LTM they added. People need to learn to enjoy the process and journey, not the destiny. Nothing wrong with wanting to win, but doing only that is taxing. Also it helps to have the self control to know that it's okay to log off and play something else when the game is pissing you off.
as a person who has 1000+ hours, who wants to enjoy the game like i used too, but like with any game with progression, once you reach the top, youve done everything, and everything becomes repetitive because people linger on old habits. i find myself not enjoying the game, and having the same issue with DBD as i do with something like fallout 4, is what feels like a lack new things. what do you with a perfect edge? you make a new one.
All one needs to know about the state of the game by playing as a killer against someone with flip flop + boil over and one other surv who has flashbang + saboteur + background player. Just 1 match as any killer
It's interesting how the different experience of people will shape how they view the game. In my experience when I solo que the teammates I get don't do gens. When I play killer, gens fly.
I’ve found after playing the game for so long (started playing when blight came out) that there’s more opportunities to have fun as survivor, especially when playing with friends, but there’s also more chances for the game to be really annoying. Killer for me seems much more ‘based’ or ‘consistent’ in terms of fun, although there are obviously times where you want to throw your monitor out the window. I say it’s because with survivor when things go your way, maybe like a baby killer or your niche perk build works it’s great. Playing in a SwF also is more enjoyable because you’re playing with mates, but survivor is also a bit of a double-edged sword. Survivors have way less control over the game and there are often times where the game doesn’t feel ‘fun’ because something screws up your plan. A teammate could miss a skill check, you could get tunnelled, the killer you play against counters your perks. There’s a lot more things out of your control that makes the game feel unfair on you. Meanwhile with killer it’s kind of the same bland thing each game, not necessarily boring but not really fun or exciting either. You just chase, hook, kick gen, repeat
I have played for years the game just isnt fun as killers you chase survivors and they will always get at least one or more generators and as survive you always get braindead teammates the game needs an overhaul make survivors movespeed 3.8 meters but make generators faster boom game fixed
I love being competitive and versing others... when it's fair. I love this game because I love horror. I love just having fun trying to improve and learn and do stuff, and mindgame, etc, winning or not as long as I have fun I'm here for it. I don't love it when every single round is aggressive and I can't have a breather. And you're right. I decided early on, I don't wanna play to win, I wanna play to have fun. Wins are just one way to have fun, getting the most points is fun, chases are fun, cool tricks are fun, doing something cracked is fun even if I 0k/die, and pipping and doing challenges feels satisfying. All those can count as wins to me. As long as I am enjoying myself and get something out of the round I am fine and I am having fun. But if I am not having any fun? Then I lose. I lose bigtime. Sure, I only post mainly my wins on my channel, but I just am here to have a good time and maybe get something from the round. Not to sweat, not to grind wins. I just wanna have fun being in the horror setting.
I got burnt out after I won a tournament playing Nurse, I feel like I completed the game and left when Trickster came out. way more fun now that Wesker and Unknown are out
I’m a brand new DbD player and watch a bunch of Aaron’s videos. You where featured in one and watching the whole thing I figured I would send you a follow. When I get time I plan on checking your twitch stream and possibly grab some lessons watching you play.
I am currently laying in bed after playing a game as Dracula and getting so upset that I hammer punched my keyboard and keys flew everywhere. I’m now lying here realizing that as much as I will always have a special place in my heart for dead by daylight, it is not the game that I fell in love with so many years ago. I started playing when clown came out and have been playing it consistently with minor breaks here and there. I’ve seen the game go through ups and downs over and over again. But right now, it’s just in a place where I don’t think I want to be a part of it anymore. I load into every game anxious and when I win it doesn’t feel rewarding at all. As much as I hate to say it. I think I’m done.
I actually feel like a bit of an unusual case, as my motivation to play Dead by Daylight was actually the achievements; I became a hardcore achievement hunter, and with only a little more than 600 hours under my belt, I can say that I proudly own every single current achievement in DbD and plan to keep it updated as the new content arrives. Thing is... once I did get the achievements, my motivation to play the game hit a really big dip. My next goal would be to Prestige 3 every single character, which is a neat goal to have, but it isn't as concrete as achievements and remains relatively grindy, and the last few times I attempted to play, I was left feeling frustrated by my games, which only further dipped my motivation. Since then, my motivation has been hard-glued to other games, which kind of makes me feel a little bit sad. Maybe I do try too hard during my games, that could be an explanation for sure.
For me, it’s a little different since I’ve been around since the beginning of August 2018 but for me it’s mainly the nerfs to perks/maps/movements of the characters it just doesn’t feel the same anymore like how the way the maps used to be darker DBD used to give off a more scary vibe back then it just doesn’t hit the same anymore. And to be frank it hasn’t hit the same for years for me.
This game had me in it’s grip for so long, until it started to appear to me how horribly unbalanced the game is and how impossible it would be to balance the game. After the point where i learned this and most things about the game, the magic just disappeared, because after the learning process the fun just died. Not to mention the community. Your practically gambling for a fun game every time. With survivor you need to hope for fun teammates who don’t dc at the slightest resistance while also hoping for a killer that isn’t bitter over their last match and coming into the game with the sole purpose of making you feel pain. Then on the killer side the game just boils down to, either you get babies who cry and complain and for a good reason because they just got matched against a player 20 times as good as them, or you get a team of 4 friends that is abusing whatever they can, just to mess with you. I remember my first ‘bully squad’ (a name that is used way too much btw) and i had never been that mad about a game in my life. In recent times, these problems are becoming more common and it genuinely made me quit the game. I’m now luckily spending my time on games where i don’t have to gamble for fun.
seeing someone who has almost 5k subs (congrats btw been here awhile you’ve come a long way) and less hours than me makes me think I need to make content and stream again.
I'm trying to play every day at the moment, since it's been very fun to learn good habits for both sides. I think there just has to be times where you play to play, and that's it. If you start putting too much pressure on yourself, you'll get mad or anxious, and start losing your matches.
Sidenote, I’m glad to hear you’re able to do UA-cam fulltime Kaiser. You deserve it after all the hard work and hard times you’ve gone through. Keep it up 😄
I’ve been trying to figure out why I feel the way I feel about this game, and while I think there are a lot of factors that contribute to it, I think how you described this dilemma is EXACTLY it. Even though I still think there is some bs in this game despite it being in a good state, I think that is the main contributer.
Looks like their matchmaking doesn't work anymore. Bro as a survivor I'm facing p100 Blight and Deathlingers who don't miss anything. And as killer I'm facing principaly survivors that can loop me for hours... Even though I have only 500 hours played, and I made a pause of around 2 years before coming back recently. I don't remember that it was as unfair as that. I mean actually I must have 5 or 10% chance to escape as survivor...
I’m seeing the comments of people saying that trying hard in the game causes them stress but tbh even when people are being try hard a I’ve almost never gotten stressed or mad at the game the whole reason I started playing because I was about to blow a fuse when I was playing Overwatch so DBD helped me and I love it
There NEEDS to be more objectives added to the match. The only time I have fun is during the events. Even such a basic thing as the blood zones during the last event were enought to make it feel better. I dont understand how the devs didnt think to just rotate small game modes each month. Like one month, you have these blood zones, other month you have small rifts that either give you speed boost or slow. Other month you have gens that move periodically through the map... Its really easy to make this game not feel stale but I guess they just dont want to do it.
I've said it many times and I'll say it once more: I'd like a ranked and unranked mode already. The current killer and survivor grade system is confusing to people who aren't constantly keeping up with the game, a lot of people *to this day* still believe that it's what determines your MMR when in reality your ranking is secret for no reason other than to keep people guessing. (my theory is that bhvr just wanted to stop hearing people whine about their old match-making system failing constantly and pairing baby killers with top rank survivors) Give the people what they want. The game has the playerbase for it, let there be a ranked competitive mode and maybe, like, give people in the top ranks a little badge for their first time up there before reset. And let there be unranked casual mode for people who just want to do tome challenges, chillout with their homies, and not feel like they're in a sweat fest. It's not rocket surgery.
From a high mmr perspective, as well as being on the rather sweaty EUR servers, it's strangely the other way around for me. Though I don't disagree with what you're saying, I'm at a point of the game where I struggle to have fun UNLESS I'm playing really well. I have to be good at this game in order to have fun. A trusted friend of mine with incredible in depth knowlege of this game has always said when I'm maulding that I needed to play better, and what I hate about it is he's right. I have tons of fun when I'm doing well but next to none when I'm not. This is one of the few games where I have to "work hard" to have fun. Its odd. But then this also comes from a perspective of someone who's done EVERY tome challenge and EVERY achievement so...its JUST core gameplay now. Burnout IS a thing when you genuinely have nothing left to really do in the game but play the core game. :/
For me a thing that keeps me away from it is simple 1: sweaty games arent that fun for me but i also don't want to lose consistently. 2: the community, there are so few games i have such pessimism towards and expect the worst from, dead by daylight is at the top of that list thanks to the harassment i recieved thanks to losing a match or even when i won and the judgement you get for playing any single killer or using a perk especially when brought up in big dbd community spaces.
Honestly at this point I feel like ranked and unranked queue would make a lot of sense. Yes, people will sweat in unranked if they wish to, but that won’t be every match where you need to give it your all. Don’t punish the player via mmr system, if they just feel like goofing around for a while. Let them try weird stuff or troll a bit or whatever. Build creativity makes the game a lot of fun for many people, but why bother if it just „bites you back“ at a certain point of your dbd journey :/
I feel like multiple things need to happen: Remake the matchmaking system. Create a Ranked & Unranked gamemode. Sure people could maybe sweat in unranked, but it would be less likely than ranked. It would help newer players Give players the ability to make a custom game against all AI survivors with any killer with any killer build to test things before getting into a real game. Create different game modes. The lights out mode seemed enjoyable even though I never got to play it. It gave us long awaited variety in the modes.
I take a lot of breaks. Everytime they just come on quicker and quicker. This game stresses me out like nothing else. It sucks cause i love the idea and gameplay and all the awesome characters they have. And when it's fun it's REALLY fun. Just relentless sweaty match after relentless sweaty match is so awful
MMR is what killed my love for this game and it is a system I wish was never added. Every game feels as though it gets sweater and sweater and it all becomes dull when every game is the same people with the same builds over and over. Even when you lose a lot and the mmr gets lower it still feels bad cause now I'm winning too easy and that's not fun ether. The biggest issue well never be removed.
1. SBMM. It turned the game into a sweat fest. 2. Killer design. Nearly every killer since Oni is too deadly in chase, too complicated, or both. When pre-dropping pallets, holding W, and rushing gens is the optimal play against so much of the killer roster, the game is not going to be fun for either side. Furthermore, when killers are this deadly in the chase, it makes tunneling even more meta than ever. That means 1 in 4 survivors is pretty much not going to get to play the video game every round, while the other three are stuck holding M1. It's just a sad state of affairs, originally brought on by bad killer design. Map design is a contributing factor too, in that poor map design is likely what drove the anti-loop killer designs in the first place. 3. Balance. The game is balanced such that one side wins more. That is not fun, especially when the player base is as sweaty as it is.
Those is one of your better videos. I love your take on it because I really didn't think about my own skill level improving and frustration setting in. Good stuff my dude. I enjoyed it!! ❤
Matchmaking make all rounds feel same same skill same situation its like being in a time loop Different Killer and maps gives at least some freshness, perks are always same exhaustion, second chance on Surv, gen reg, aura reading on Killer This is why i like to play different build even if i lose the match, i don't care
Oh one other thing that really pisses me off they also give survivers theree ways to escape the two large ass doors a at the end of each side of the bord and tge damn hach they should only have one door and a hach cause am really tied of them splitting up while going after one survivers they other can go open both doors its like really and then they get really cochey they come back and free they other surviver and some actually get away man its really frustrating when they do that and then you end up with no kills at all
i think dbd is still fun. i love dbd. its a real good stress release for me. i like to play to win. i love to sweat and be grouped with people who love to sweat. if i get paired with people who dont wanna sweat i am a little bummed out but i just go to a comp corner and just wait till they get their points and move on to next
for me I think dbd is less fun since I can win most of my game, and "losing" sometimes makes me more happy than "winning", so maybe it's because the game don't have enough opponent that has the same skill level with me
MMR is Trash, i got over 1800h and my mate over 2000h and we come to lobbies with mates who had about 30h to 400h and Killers with 3000h plus. Really good Killers the most time. Then we got Sometimes a Lobby with mates with our skill and a Killer with 50h. That is sh*t. I love to play sweaty, but i hate to See, that make no sense, cause the lower mates are trash and wait behind a stone to hope of the end of the game and wait for the hatch
I have 3600 Hours and my Tipp is: literally do something else. Maybe it’s your favorite game, maybe you don’t know what else to play. But you will find something else if you really want to. Taking small breaks, not playing every day and also playing both sides helps a lot. Also I mostly only play during Events cause, after so many Hours and it not being my Job to do play this Game, the core Gameplay has become kinda boring. At least if I was to play it every day.
I disagree that the first hour of a game is the most fun of your entire life. Many games for me happened that way: R6, OW, Fortnite… but in DBD I found it to be different (the only game I ever played which was different), I played until I reached level 50 basically and stopped having interest in the game so I quit playing DBD until 2-3 years later in 2021 and then the fun got me. That was the time I had the most fun playing the game, I wouldn’t say my first hour but 400 maybe.
My one year is coming up this month I came in when chucky came in so we got something In common in the one I got really good at this game so I know what you mean but I get real frustrated at this game when I don't get any kills I play as killer that's it I don't like playing survivers but get sick of hackers cheating I really wish dbd would really do something about like make it hacker proof lol or make it just for the ps 4 -5 and Xbox.
DBD isnt fun becuase people want to win (naturally) the problem with this is the game doesnt incentivise healthy / fun gameplay in order to win, for killers the best winning stratergy agasint actual good players is 3gens and slug tunneling / at best soft tunneling (you tunnle 2 and leave 2) whilst for survivors the most effective way to play is have 1 player loop as long as possible while 3 people stare at gens. The problem isn't that people want to win and thats killing the fun for others. The problem is that the game encourages players to play in an unfun way. Look at meta perks right now, for killers its all slowdown and for survs its all anti tunnel, people dont use this stuff because it's fun, they use it to win, if they were to actually give decent anti tunnel/gen slowdown at base kit, you could nerf these centralising perks and people could actually use more interesting stuff. The problem isnt players, the problem is incentives, encourage healthy gameplay and people will play that way becuase theyre rewarded for it
I’ve been playing this game on and off for years and I simply just cannot enjoy it anymore. Especially as a soloQ survivor. This game is more miserable than enjoyable
the more they try to balance and strip again elements of the gameplay the more boring it becomes... and tha'ts what's been happening over the years. it's not because we're getting better. the game was still fun for me when surivvor had chances, loops and perks that were strong. now it's extremely boring for survivor since everything is stripped away. killer is boring too because it's too easy now esp. with allthe aura reading they have.
For me the game is just stale. At any mmr. I've got 3000 hours in the game I started almost exactly when kaiser did. The game was amazing so many killers with so many builds. But as I've made my way through the killers and there builds I am now left with nothing. I have played every charecter and every build scratch mirror Myers was my child I loved scratch mirror and just scaring the survivors not focusing on killing just on being scary and it was amazing. But now but now I play maybe a game a week hoping I'm going to fall in love again....but alas it isn't to be I play a game I have a decent time but when it comes to loading up another game I can't bring myself to.
A nother thing am frustrated at this game is how DBD favorites survivers I got list of things I came name how they do like one thing is how they gave the survivers movement speed and Gen speed and all the new weapons they get and out fits and how they gave them how they can see they killer coming a mile away now and how they put a damn red light around the killer so they can see him coming to its like come on seriously its hard to sneak up on them and also how nurfed chucky hes my favorite killer to play as but they keep doing that to the killers but don't that for the survivers no they get up grads I can almost see where the killers are not going get any body any more its really bull shit how they donthat but that's all I got to say sorry had a lot to get off my chest hope fully you agree with me if you don't that's OK to lol .
You know something crazy? dbd has been out for about 7 years and it's always been a buggy mess that will never change.The devs will continue to keep it a buggy mess and people will always play it no matter what because they're addicted.
Skill based matchmaking is so bad, even if I lose games over and over it still puts me against the greatest players in the universe. Like dbd sees me lose 3 games in a row and goes “oh damn let’s give him a break” then proceeds to put me against people who have non stop been playing the game since release and play it every single day
I think a better term for this situation is boil over (no pun intended). To keep with the heat analogy, players getting frustrated with matches will boil over when things get too heated, and they need to lower the temperature by switching to a different stove top (aka another game/activity). Do you like this metaphor?
I've been playing since launch day and still enjoy the game because I take breaks.
I think boil over is a cool perk for memes.
Like head on.
Perhaps both in one build
@@C0d0ps I'm not talking about the perk whatsoever. Hence why I said no pun intended
I’ve been trying a little trick I like to call “not trying too hard every match “
It’s worked wonders for my mental and physical health
Same.
It's always the "I'm not obligated to care about your fun" killers who seem to complain, but playing by the survivor rulebook for long enough has actually been more fun, and because of the matchmaking system trying to favour fair games, when I lose enough games because of it, it tries to give me survivors that match that energy, and when I lose it's like "Obviously, I'm running three bloodpoint perks with very minor benefits (one that's actively detrimental) and undying to keep thrill of the hunt up" so it doesn't feel bad at all.
100% agree
This right here! Once you accept that you can’t win every match and it’s ok to lose, the game becomes much more enjoyable! Some times I just load up a game as nemesis to run around and punch a few survivors
Yet to meet a killer player who thinks the same as you
This.
I like to let my skill do the talking. I win a fair number of my Killer rounds and I play pretty fair to do so. I like to not run too much gen control, and I prefer to run less aggro perks or perks that match my Killer. On Surv I lose, A LOT, but I only really ever SWF with friends on Discord and I also run different builds with varying purposes on every Surv I play - Nea is stealth, Laurie is an altruist, Cheryl does looping, etc. I like to try fun perks and see how well I can do with them. I accept I will lose a lot. I'm fine with that.
I only get frustrated at this game when I can't progress any of my goals in an achievable way - I can't get a single hook because aggro Survs, I can't get a challenge done due to the Killer tunnelling me out, I can't use my Killer as intended, I did not pip at all despite doing my best, etc. Lack of progress and lack of getting something for my time bothers me.
The game's just stale. Bhvr needs to implement gamemodes asap. Releasing new killers and survivors isn't enough to keep people interested in this game.
What if they add Five Nights At Freddy's or Friday The 13th chapter that many players wanted for a long time? And they will implement gamemodes, probably like mid chapter or something.
@@assembled1855 I hope they add a FNAF chapter so I can finally stop seeing people ask for it everywhere.
@@lieutenantgonads And then after that they'll just get bored and gets over with FNAF chapter within a week or so.
I started dbd really recently. Only really started during the blood moon event. I've fallen in love with it but I definitely have noticed the harder I try the less fun I have.
Welcome to hell 😭
I think another thing is that people like to see big flashy improvements, like hitting Billy curves for example, but as you improve, those improvements become much more subtle, and those subtle things may even be more important.
I'm going to use fighting games as an example because that's what I know. People will see big flashy combos and that's what they want to learn and what they will play for. But once you get to a higher level it becomes knowing where to stand, how your character interacts with theirs, etc.
The new things left to learn and experience are still very important, but they aren't the big dopamine hit like the other stuff. That's the point where you need to decide if you want to improve at the game, if you are content just executing a basic gameplan and repeating what you have learned, or if you want to go play something new.
Only reason i'm having fun is because I play survivor with a friend. If I had gone into this game by myself I would have quit or become a killer main a long time ago.
Killer main isn't exactly a relief...
@@riseagain845 it is in many ways because you only have you to worry about. I couldn't care less about survivor so called BM ing in a game where their only defense is running from me & flashlights lol. Anyone who complains about that is a bit weak & If they really feel bullied as killer in DBD I'd hate for them to play FT13th.
(Some of this is personal thoughts, other stuff is addressing the video material, so take this as some rambling...)
The problem with DBD and the "fun perception" is that "fun" can't happen if SBMM is the main matchmaking factor (debatable obviously).
Why? Because the matchmaker simply doesn't work at higher levels.
Killer dodges: Lobby MMR deactivates.
Surv dodges: Lobby MMR deactivates.
You lose 40 games in a row, you are still in the same MMR bracket.
So the fundamentals for a "fun" (or alternatively "fair") environment are already out of the window.
Then add onto that the current meta (as an example).
As a killer it's 4 slowdowns/regression or you lose, even against a team that doesn't really try. It's just base gen speed.
As surv it's what keeps you alive the longest. (Be it stealth perks, 2nd chance perks, gen speed perks, toolboxes, you name it. So basically meta.)
You can't have "fun" if you can't get creative with your builds or play the game long enough, before you play lobby simulator again. (My opinion. Everyone defines fun differently.)
So, if I, as an example play my main killer (if I tell you you will start to groan) and play a lore accurate build, because that's where I get my fun from, and try a few techs for clips here and there, I just lose the game with 2-8 hooks.
If I play my main survivor I will either get dodged in lobby 17+ times (yes I do count sometimes) or I will get tunnelled. Yeah, I don't mind getting tunnelled, but the game does not only revolve around chase.
I can already tell that people will latch onto the tunnelling part and rahrah filthy killer mains just ruining everyones fun rahrah.
Lemme tell you: It's also not fun to tunnel out people because you might lose the game if you don't. With the MMR you can't tell how good the survs are or if they are a swf or not. (With a few it's obvious, with some it's not.)
But to actually add onto the video itself:
The game has gotten worse.
Ping has gotten worse. Where I was at 25-30 a year ago I am now at 35-40 ms on my home server. Which is not that noticeable but it becomes noticeable when you suddenly have 70-80 when playing with friends on a different server, where before you had 50-60. (Take note that the other side also had an increase in latency.)
Dedicated server not responding, disconnecting. (Especially at the exit gate/or before hooking the last survivor. Great times losing your 30k BP after a game well played.)
Less build variety because literally everything gets "balanced", aka "no fun allowed". I know. Uncounterable stuff gotta be nerfed/changed. But balanced doesn't mean better.
Lowering of the skillceiling. (P.e. removal of Skybilly, now Blight hugtech, flashlight blind timers, lightburn, the list goes on.)
The rise of cheaters as well (though I don't really encounter them that often, because I just don't play as much as I used to play.)
So hats off to you/someone that can actually still find their own fun, but it's a losing battle for a lot of people I guess. No need to ask for flames just because you don't play like others want you to play. If you want to win you do you. But at some point BHVR needs to learn that "if person loses 70 games in a row they actually might not be in the skill bracket they are playing in right now".
Which will not happen.
The easy (bandaid) fix would be to go back to grades, but at this point I'm doubting they'll ever manage the necessary changes in a timely fashion. (What I wouldn't give for a better grading system to be implemented if SBMM has to stay... yeah.)
At the end of the day, yes. Winning is fun for some. Playing against lesser skilled people is fun for others. Improving is fun for a handful, etc.
But it's quite obvious that a lot of things that have been fun for a lot of people don't exist any more or haven't been changed for the better. Add onto that that the game is getting older and obviously is running on spaghetti and horrible netcode.
If they ever fix the core issues of the game and I don't have to predict a hit from 75 meters away, maybe I'll change my view on the topic, but as it stands... I'm tired chief.
The grind for bloodpoints and shards taking forever has made me take a break
I tracked my hours, played 1.500 hours in the first year, 900 hours in the second and 600 in my third year. And from my perspective there are different factors why it is that way.
New life circumstances, friends group doesn't play anymore are some. But the biggest factor for me is that at some point you have to find peace with the core gameplay loop as survivor and/or killer because when you are done with everything (archives, achivements) there isn't much more left other then getting better in a skill you choose (like perfectioning a killer or become better in looping as survivor). And these skills aren't as easy to require as the skills for the core gameplay loop and can (or will) be frustrating over the time, especially when you're learning techs or similiar things.
Another thing is that DbD has the odd thing that sometimes winning after hard matches aren't feel rewarding, because sometimes you don't necessarely win with your skill but with the mistakes of the other side (even tho that is a component of every match, but in killer games I feel that a lot more).
Hope you're finding a way to deal with the frustration!
I can remember my first ever match in this game. it was in mobile my cousin showed it to me when we were at a family cottage around mid august after downloading it we played a few matches my first ever match was against the plague on a red forest map (don't remember witch one I think it was mothers dwelling) and the plague let me escape and was super cool I think I got like 2 gens done and a few saves it was probably one of my best matches ive played to this day even though I dont remember it to well and it was my first match.
I remember when and why I got it, it was just after Wesker came out and I got the game because of my brother, we never actually played together but this game has given me good friends. But the game frustrates me to no end sometimes
Having high emotional control is an important skill in general, but I feel it is especially good for this game as well. Past me left DbD at 32 hours because of a bully squad humiliation while I was still learning the game as Wraith (this was around when Nemesis was just released). This plus a constant stream of rough games because I’m new ended up getting me more and more pissed off until that bully squad match ended up being the thing that got me to quit playing.
2ish years later, I’ve returned and made it past the atrocious early game hump new players have to deal with TWICE (ps5 account and PC account). It took me the longest time to play killer again thanks to ptsd, but once I was able to change my mindset on the role and created methods to get myself to play killer again (such as having friends watch me so I can chat with them to take stress off the game), I just began to love the game again. Now I’m playing to this day and I have 600-700ish hours combined, and part of it is that I’ve just grown to accept the bullshit that can occur with both sides instead of getting tilted constantly.
And as stated in a different comment on a different video on this channel: having other games or activities increases the longevity of playing this game by a ton and is a major source of stress relief. Some Terraria or Lethal Company or something goes a long way for your mental health. Always take care of yourself first over the game, folks!
Been playing since alpha days and probably having played virtually everyday for 12k+ something hours by now. I find that disabling chat and just playing trying to learn and do whatever I like and not sweating so hard has helped me consistently play the last few years despite the community constantly whining how bad the game is. I'm having more fun with the game now than I have in years, especially with the new LTM they added.
People need to learn to enjoy the process and journey, not the destiny. Nothing wrong with wanting to win, but doing only that is taxing.
Also it helps to have the self control to know that it's okay to log off and play something else when the game is pissing you off.
as a person who has 1000+ hours, who wants to enjoy the game like i used too, but like with any game with progression, once you reach the top, youve done everything, and everything becomes repetitive because people linger on old habits. i find myself not enjoying the game, and having the same issue with DBD as i do with something like fallout 4, is what feels like a lack new things. what do you with a perfect edge? you make a new one.
All one needs to know about the state of the game by playing as a killer against someone with flip flop + boil over and one other surv who has flashbang + saboteur + background player. Just 1 match as any killer
It's interesting how the different experience of people will shape how they view the game. In my experience when I solo que the teammates I get don't do gens. When I play killer, gens fly.
I’ve found after playing the game for so long (started playing when blight came out) that there’s more opportunities to have fun as survivor, especially when playing with friends, but there’s also more chances for the game to be really annoying. Killer for me seems much more ‘based’ or ‘consistent’ in terms of fun, although there are obviously times where you want to throw your monitor out the window. I say it’s because with survivor when things go your way, maybe like a baby killer or your niche perk build works it’s great. Playing in a SwF also is more enjoyable because you’re playing with mates, but survivor is also a bit of a double-edged sword. Survivors have way less control over the game and there are often times where the game doesn’t feel ‘fun’ because something screws up your plan. A teammate could miss a skill check, you could get tunnelled, the killer you play against counters your perks. There’s a lot more things out of your control that makes the game feel unfair on you. Meanwhile with killer it’s kind of the same bland thing each game, not necessarily boring but not really fun or exciting either. You just chase, hook, kick gen, repeat
I have played for years the game just isnt fun as killers you chase survivors and they will always get at least one or more generators and as survive you always get braindead teammates the game needs an overhaul make survivors movespeed 3.8 meters but make generators faster boom game fixed
I love being competitive and versing others... when it's fair. I love this game because I love horror. I love just having fun trying to improve and learn and do stuff, and mindgame, etc, winning or not as long as I have fun I'm here for it.
I don't love it when every single round is aggressive and I can't have a breather. And you're right. I decided early on, I don't wanna play to win, I wanna play to have fun. Wins are just one way to have fun, getting the most points is fun, chases are fun, cool tricks are fun, doing something cracked is fun even if I 0k/die, and pipping and doing challenges feels satisfying. All those can count as wins to me. As long as I am enjoying myself and get something out of the round I am fine and I am having fun. But if I am not having any fun? Then I lose. I lose bigtime. Sure, I only post mainly my wins on my channel, but I just am here to have a good time and maybe get something from the round. Not to sweat, not to grind wins. I just wanna have fun being in the horror setting.
I got burnt out after I won a tournament playing Nurse, I feel like I completed the game and left when Trickster came out. way more fun now that Wesker and Unknown are out
I’m a brand new DbD player and watch a bunch of Aaron’s videos. You where featured in one and watching the whole thing I figured I would send you a follow.
When I get time I plan on checking your twitch stream and possibly grab some lessons watching you play.
I am currently laying in bed after playing a game as Dracula and getting so upset that I hammer punched my keyboard and keys flew everywhere. I’m now lying here realizing that as much as I will always have a special place in my heart for dead by daylight, it is not the game that I fell in love with so many years ago. I started playing when clown came out and have been playing it consistently with minor breaks here and there. I’ve seen the game go through ups and downs over and over again. But right now, it’s just in a place where I don’t think I want to be a part of it anymore. I load into every game anxious and when I win it doesn’t feel rewarding at all. As much as I hate to say it. I think I’m done.
I actually feel like a bit of an unusual case, as my motivation to play Dead by Daylight was actually the achievements; I became a hardcore achievement hunter, and with only a little more than 600 hours under my belt, I can say that I proudly own every single current achievement in DbD and plan to keep it updated as the new content arrives. Thing is... once I did get the achievements, my motivation to play the game hit a really big dip. My next goal would be to Prestige 3 every single character, which is a neat goal to have, but it isn't as concrete as achievements and remains relatively grindy, and the last few times I attempted to play, I was left feeling frustrated by my games, which only further dipped my motivation. Since then, my motivation has been hard-glued to other games, which kind of makes me feel a little bit sad. Maybe I do try too hard during my games, that could be an explanation for sure.
For me, it’s a little different since I’ve been around since the beginning of August 2018 but for me it’s mainly the nerfs to perks/maps/movements of the characters it just doesn’t feel the same anymore like how the way the maps used to be darker DBD used to give off a more scary vibe back then it just doesn’t hit the same anymore. And to be frank it hasn’t hit the same for years for me.
This game had me in it’s grip for so long, until it started to appear to me how horribly unbalanced the game is and how impossible it would be to balance the game. After the point where i learned this and most things about the game, the magic just disappeared, because after the learning process the fun just died. Not to mention the community. Your practically gambling for a fun game every time. With survivor you need to hope for fun teammates who don’t dc at the slightest resistance while also hoping for a killer that isn’t bitter over their last match and coming into the game with the sole purpose of making you feel pain. Then on the killer side the game just boils down to, either you get babies who cry and complain and for a good reason because they just got matched against a player 20 times as good as them, or you get a team of 4 friends that is abusing whatever they can, just to mess with you. I remember my first ‘bully squad’ (a name that is used way too much btw) and i had never been that mad about a game in my life. In recent times, these problems are becoming more common and it genuinely made me quit the game. I’m now luckily spending my time on games where i don’t have to gamble for fun.
seeing someone who has almost 5k subs (congrats btw been here awhile you’ve come a long way) and less hours than me makes me think I need to make content and stream again.
You cant be a CC without creating content. Go for it. Just be consistent, learn algorithms and pretend sleeping isnt needed
I'm trying to play every day at the moment, since it's been very fun to learn good habits for both sides. I think there just has to be times where you play to play, and that's it. If you start putting too much pressure on yourself, you'll get mad or anxious, and start losing your matches.
Sidenote, I’m glad to hear you’re able to do UA-cam fulltime Kaiser. You deserve it after all the hard work and hard times you’ve gone through.
Keep it up 😄
I’ve been trying to figure out why I feel the way I feel about this game, and while I think there are a lot of factors that contribute to it, I think how you described this dilemma is EXACTLY it. Even though I still think there is some bs in this game despite it being in a good state, I think that is the main contributer.
Looks like their matchmaking doesn't work anymore.
Bro as a survivor I'm facing p100 Blight and Deathlingers who don't miss anything.
And as killer I'm facing principaly survivors that can loop me for hours...
Even though I have only 500 hours played, and I made a pause of around 2 years before coming back recently.
I don't remember that it was as unfair as that. I mean actually I must have 5 or 10% chance to escape as survivor...
I’m seeing the comments of people saying that trying hard in the game causes them stress but tbh even when people are being try hard a I’ve almost never gotten stressed or mad at the game the whole reason I started playing because I was about to blow a fuse when I was playing Overwatch so DBD helped me and I love it
There NEEDS to be more objectives added to the match. The only time I have fun is during the events. Even such a basic thing as the blood zones during the last event were enought to make it feel better. I dont understand how the devs didnt think to just rotate small game modes each month. Like one month, you have these blood zones, other month you have small rifts that either give you speed boost or slow. Other month you have gens that move periodically through the map... Its really easy to make this game not feel stale but I guess they just dont want to do it.
I've said it many times and I'll say it once more: I'd like a ranked and unranked mode already. The current killer and survivor grade system is confusing to people who aren't constantly keeping up with the game, a lot of people *to this day* still believe that it's what determines your MMR when in reality your ranking is secret for no reason other than to keep people guessing. (my theory is that bhvr just wanted to stop hearing people whine about their old match-making system failing constantly and pairing baby killers with top rank survivors)
Give the people what they want. The game has the playerbase for it, let there be a ranked competitive mode and maybe, like, give people in the top ranks a little badge for their first time up there before reset. And let there be unranked casual mode for people who just want to do tome challenges, chillout with their homies, and not feel like they're in a sweat fest.
It's not rocket surgery.
one suggestion i would give is to give more daily rituals, like at least one every 6 hours, and include iri shards as a side gift
From a high mmr perspective, as well as being on the rather sweaty EUR servers, it's strangely the other way around for me.
Though I don't disagree with what you're saying, I'm at a point of the game where I struggle to have fun UNLESS I'm playing really well. I have to be good at this game in order to have fun.
A trusted friend of mine with incredible in depth knowlege of this game has always said when I'm maulding that I needed to play better, and what I hate about it is he's right.
I have tons of fun when I'm doing well but next to none when I'm not. This is one of the few games where I have to "work hard" to have fun. Its odd.
But then this also comes from a perspective of someone who's done EVERY tome challenge and EVERY achievement so...its JUST core gameplay now.
Burnout IS a thing when you genuinely have nothing left to really do in the game but play the core game. :/
For me a thing that keeps me away from it is simple
1: sweaty games arent that fun for me but i also don't want to lose consistently.
2: the community, there are so few games i have such pessimism towards and expect the worst from, dead by daylight is at the top of that list thanks to the harassment i recieved thanks to losing a match or even when i won and the judgement you get for playing any single killer or using a perk especially when brought up in big dbd community spaces.
Honestly at this point I feel like ranked and unranked queue would make a lot of sense.
Yes, people will sweat in unranked if they wish to, but that won’t be every match where you need to give it your all.
Don’t punish the player via mmr system, if they just feel like goofing around for a while. Let them try weird stuff or troll a bit or whatever.
Build creativity makes the game a lot of fun for many people, but why bother if it just „bites you back“ at a certain point of your dbd journey :/
I feel like multiple things need to happen:
Remake the matchmaking system. Create a Ranked & Unranked gamemode. Sure people could maybe sweat in unranked, but it would be less likely than ranked. It would help newer players
Give players the ability to make a custom game against all AI survivors with any killer with any killer build to test things before getting into a real game.
Create different game modes. The lights out mode seemed enjoyable even though I never got to play it. It gave us long awaited variety in the modes.
Lights Out was great for me because it inspired me to try new characters without as much stress. It was fun exploring everyone’s base kit.
I take a lot of breaks. Everytime they just come on quicker and quicker. This game stresses me out like nothing else. It sucks cause i love the idea and gameplay and all the awesome characters they have. And when it's fun it's REALLY fun. Just relentless sweaty match after relentless sweaty match is so awful
MMR is what killed my love for this game and it is a system I wish was never added. Every game feels as though it gets sweater and sweater and it all becomes dull when every game is the same people with the same builds over and over. Even when you lose a lot and the mmr gets lower it still feels bad cause now I'm winning too easy and that's not fun ether. The biggest issue well never be removed.
1. SBMM. It turned the game into a sweat fest.
2. Killer design. Nearly every killer since Oni is too deadly in chase, too complicated, or both. When pre-dropping pallets, holding W, and rushing gens is the optimal play against so much of the killer roster, the game is not going to be fun for either side. Furthermore, when killers are this deadly in the chase, it makes tunneling even more meta than ever. That means 1 in 4 survivors is pretty much not going to get to play the video game every round, while the other three are stuck holding M1. It's just a sad state of affairs, originally brought on by bad killer design. Map design is a contributing factor too, in that poor map design is likely what drove the anti-loop killer designs in the first place.
3. Balance. The game is balanced such that one side wins more. That is not fun, especially when the player base is as sweaty as it is.
Those is one of your better videos. I love your take on it because I really didn't think about my own skill level improving and frustration setting in. Good stuff my dude. I enjoyed it!! ❤
Matchmaking make all rounds feel same same skill same situation its like being in a time loop
Different Killer and maps gives at least some freshness, perks are always same exhaustion, second chance on Surv, gen reg, aura reading on Killer
This is why i like to play different build even if i lose the match, i don't care
Oh one other thing that really pisses me off they also give survivers theree ways to escape the two large ass doors a at the end of each side of the bord and tge damn hach they should only have one door and a hach cause am really tied of them splitting up while going after one survivers they other can go open both doors its like really and then they get really cochey they come back and free they other surviver and some actually get away man its really frustrating when they do that and then you end up with no kills at all
Dbd is just way to stressful to me, I stopped playing, as it felt worse to play than just do anything else
i think dbd is still fun. i love dbd. its a real good stress release for me. i like to play to win. i love to sweat and be grouped with people who love to sweat. if i get paired with people who dont wanna sweat i am a little bummed out but i just go to a comp corner and just wait till they get their points and move on to next
for me I think dbd is less fun since I can win most of my game, and "losing" sometimes makes me more happy than "winning", so maybe it's because the game don't have enough opponent that has the same skill level with me
MMR is Trash, i got over 1800h and my mate over 2000h and we come to lobbies with mates who had about 30h to 400h and Killers with 3000h plus.
Really good Killers the most time.
Then we got Sometimes a Lobby with mates with our skill and a Killer with 50h.
That is sh*t.
I love to play sweaty, but i hate to See, that make no sense, cause the lower mates are trash and wait behind a stone to hope of the end of the game and wait for the hatch
I have 3600 Hours and my Tipp is: literally do something else.
Maybe it’s your favorite game, maybe you don’t know what else to play.
But you will find something else if you really want to.
Taking small breaks, not playing every day and also playing both sides helps a lot.
Also I mostly only play during Events cause, after so many Hours and it not being my Job to do play this Game, the core Gameplay has become kinda boring.
At least if I was to play it every day.
I took a 4 day break for diablo 4.
I disagree that the first hour of a game is the most fun of your entire life. Many games for me happened that way: R6, OW, Fortnite… but in DBD I found it to be different (the only game I ever played which was different), I played until I reached level 50 basically and stopped having interest in the game so I quit playing DBD until 2-3 years later in 2021 and then the fun got me.
That was the time I had the most fun playing the game, I wouldn’t say my first hour but 400 maybe.
My one year is coming up this month I came in when chucky came in so we got something In common in the one I got really good at this game so I know what you mean but I get real frustrated at this game when I don't get any kills I play as killer that's it I don't like playing survivers but get sick of hackers cheating I really wish dbd would really do something about like make it hacker proof lol or make it just for the ps 4 -5 and Xbox.
As always, I click a video with the SM in the title card.
I have to stop falling for that. 😂
Good video tho
DBD isnt fun becuase people want to win (naturally) the problem with this is the game doesnt incentivise healthy / fun gameplay in order to win, for killers the best winning stratergy agasint actual good players is 3gens and slug tunneling / at best soft tunneling (you tunnle 2 and leave 2) whilst for survivors the most effective way to play is have 1 player loop as long as possible while 3 people stare at gens. The problem isn't that people want to win and thats killing the fun for others. The problem is that the game encourages players to play in an unfun way. Look at meta perks right now, for killers its all slowdown and for survs its all anti tunnel, people dont use this stuff because it's fun, they use it to win, if they were to actually give decent anti tunnel/gen slowdown at base kit, you could nerf these centralising perks and people could actually use more interesting stuff. The problem isnt players, the problem is incentives, encourage healthy gameplay and people will play that way becuase theyre rewarded for it
What about gamemodes?
I’ve been playing this game on and off for years and I simply just cannot enjoy it anymore. Especially as a soloQ survivor. This game is more miserable than enjoyable
the more they try to balance and strip again elements of the gameplay the more boring it becomes... and tha'ts what's been happening over the years. it's not because we're getting better. the game was still fun for me when surivvor had chances, loops and perks that were strong. now it's extremely boring for survivor since everything is stripped away. killer is boring too because it's too easy now esp. with allthe aura reading they have.
For me the game is just stale. At any mmr. I've got 3000 hours in the game I started almost exactly when kaiser did. The game was amazing so many killers with so many builds. But as I've made my way through the killers and there builds I am now left with nothing. I have played every charecter and every build scratch mirror Myers was my child I loved scratch mirror and just scaring the survivors not focusing on killing just on being scary and it was amazing. But now but now I play maybe a game a week hoping I'm going to fall in love again....but alas it isn't to be I play a game I have a decent time but when it comes to loading up another game I can't bring myself to.
A nother thing am frustrated at this game is how DBD favorites survivers I got list of things I came name how they do like one thing is how they gave the survivers movement speed and Gen speed and all the new weapons they get and out fits and how they gave them how they can see they killer coming a mile away now and how they put a damn red light around the killer so they can see him coming to its like come on seriously its hard to sneak up on them and also how nurfed chucky hes my favorite killer to play as but they keep doing that to the killers but don't that for the survivers no they get up grads I can almost see where the killers are not going get any body any more its really bull shit how they donthat but that's all I got to say sorry had a lot to get off my chest hope fully you agree with me if you don't that's OK to lol .
Make a video on how to have fun in dbd
You know something crazy? dbd has been out for about 7 years and it's always been a buggy mess that will never change.The devs will continue to keep it a buggy mess and people will always play it no matter what because they're addicted.
Make the game more unbalanced and add counter picking perks so you can just use that if you hate something so much trust 🙏
Copycat builds and random builds how I keep it fresh
dude all of you guys just dont have fun anymore in dbd bc its all you do.
All games start being less fun when you play them all day long.
wtf, you're playing skull merchant?! unliked, uncommented, unsubscribed!!!
mfw uncommented
Skill based matchmaking is so bad, even if I lose games over and over it still puts me against the greatest players in the universe.
Like dbd sees me lose 3 games in a row and goes “oh damn let’s give him a break” then proceeds to put me against people who have non stop been playing the game since release and play it every single day