Anyone else catch Omega's "Damage to parietal lobe region" line? The parietal lobe is the part of the brain that deals with sensory information, which implies that the effects of the Phantom Ruby have damaged his sensors, making it impossible for him to distinguish between reality and Infinite's illusions. Kind of weird that they're implying his brain functions similarly to an organic brain, but it's a neat little line, even if it is treated as an off-the-cuff thing.
How many roundhouse kicks has Shadow done in his lifetime? Sonic '06: Chaos... CONTROL! (Roundhouse kicks Silver) Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric: (Roundhouse kicks Tails into a time hole and jumps in after him) Sonic Forces: Chaos Control! (Roundhouse kicks his duplicate and roundhouse kicks Infinite) Shadow really loves roundhouse kicks.
Something about Infinite's "reunion" with Shadow really bothers me. Like, you're a villain with the ability to literally manipulate reality going up against a character with one of the most tragic back stories of anyone in the entire series and you don't even decide to play that up? For goodness sake, hit Shadow where it hurts you masked clown! Make him feel just as weak and pathetic as you did after he beat your face in! This is how it should have went: Instead of putting Shadow into a virtual version of the future Green Hill zone, take Shadow back to his weakest moment: the night of GUN's raid on the Space Colony ARK. That would have even have the added bonus of giving players a chance to play through a level themed around the ARK, which is something I'm sure a lot of SA2 fans would have appreciated. Then, upon beating the level, Shadow then gets to relive the painful moment of being completely powerless to save Maria. In fact, let's take the psychological torment a step further and keep playing that memory of Maria's death on a loop for Shadow until he's a broken, emotional wreck. At this point Infinite could say something to the effect of this before walking away victoriously: "You were created the ultimate lifeform, but instead you ended up the ultimate failure! Oh well, in time, that matter anyway! HAHaHAHaHAHaa!" - The true Infinite. Maybe that was too edgy for the kids? I mean, they mention Sonic was tortured, and I don't think this kind of interaction would really surpass that.
Nat The Porcupine dollars to doughnuts, Infinite never knew Shadow's backstory. He still could've asked Eggman about it, but i suppose he figured that he was so strong now that he didn't need anyone's help in breaking Shadow...
The whole game concept was a mistake. Sonic mania had a contrasting tone and it turned to be better than this one in almost every way (except graphics of course). Sonic needs a deeply fun tone with a really menacing villain to balance that. (The sonic movie guy will voice sonic in games since Roger Craig is retiring, so we might get something really good voice work).
This is definitely a better thought for the back story, too bad sega is just making the sonic games more childish each day. Like when you see sonic in his cell after being “tortured” for months he’s normal like he could of at least been in a more devasted state. Also is infinite was trying to show shadow that he isn’t weak he should of tried to direct his attacks to shadow more then sonic. Ik egg man telling him to beat sonic but he feels like this cuz of shadow and the boss battle at the end could have been him and shadow or something because infinite feels like this because of him
Torture is just a word, because it clearly didn't happen. Sonic wasn't hurt, not a hair was out of place, and he didn't look shaken or weakened at all. Actually, the first thing he did after he was released was beat the shit out of one of the clones, which he did with no effort whatsoever.
Brandon Stanley So you like the half-assed and lazy pretentious writing that tries to present this faceless bitch as the new badass, without giving us actual reasons to give a shit about him ? And no, Shadow didn't take his eye. They just released the new comic showing what he and the Jackal Squad look like. He's still a stereotypical bitch with no motivation. The only thing about the eyes I noticed is how this in-game model is so poorly made it doesn't have neither mouth or eyes.
It's sad because Shadow is finally a heroic badass again (took them only 11 years...), yet the game didn't live up to the expectations... Oh well, at least the soundtrack did.
I personally don’t think the game is that bad, in my opinion longer stages and more intense boss fights would have done the trick. Also adding a bit to the mechanics would have been a great decision for the gameplay, but overall still not a horrible game like most sonic fans think.
Eggman: "Oh, no _I_ hate Sonic. _Infinite_ hates you. Because you beat him in a fight. Once." Shadow: "But, that's really dumb. But he's so edgy. BUT THAT'S SO DUMB."
Shadow The Hedgehog, but with no guns and *THAT DAMN FOURTH CHAOS EMERALD.* EDIT: I need to admit, it was kinda dissapointing that they still don't have a Chaos and Shadow boss fight, but at least the game still looks great.
HunBun Draws i dunno, Eggman would've still had the Phantom Ruby. Infinite was just a testbed for the gem's power- Eggman didn't even need him for his plan really...
So not only does Infinite just disappear at the end of the game, he also just turns out to be some guy who isn't important. Really dropped the ball on this one, Sonic Team.
They literally pulled the same stunt with the Deadly Six in Lost World! Infinite just poofs in out of nowhere and simply "goes away" at the end of the game with ZERO context. At least in Lost World Eggman actually mentions a possible idea of bringing the Zeti back for revenge. Here we don't even see what becomes of Eggman nor Infinite after the final boss.
Not only that, it was that recently confirmed that Infinite is actually just straight up dead and was absorbed into the Phantom Ruby. Four years later. They literally can't even do anything else with him because he's dead.
But... if the phantom Ruby is there... THEN HE MUST BE THERE TOO. THEY NEVER SHOWED US THAT INFINITE'S RUBY WAS DESTROYED. ONLY THE DEATH EGG ROBOT WAS.
Now I know that a lot of people have complained with Infinite's origin story, and I have to say that this was actually clever on Sega's part that Infinite has a deep inferiority complex and he's hyping the hell out of himself. For the mental breakdown part Shadow KILLED all of his squad and even though they weren't competently innocent. There's also the implication that Infinite cared for his squad and he tried to avenge their deaths only to fail miserably and having Shadow mocking Infinite for his failure. This scene shows that Infinite is beginning to lose his mind to the effects of the Phantom Ruby even though Shadow didn't call him weak Infinite still reads it as being called weak. Eh it's not the best backstory that Sonic team could come up with, but it's better then The Deadly Six who were just there in Lost world and Lyric who was a pathetic excuse for a villain.
7:49-8:07. And to think, this entire game could have been avoided had Shadow decided the one merc he left alive was worth killing... or at the very least worth capturing and interrogating.
What I really love about Shadow's portrayal in Forces (episode Shadow at least) is how genuinely he shows concern about Rouge and (especially) Omega. Sure, he's a bit smugy here and there, but he has some aspects of the REAL SHADOW back. Not perfect, but good start😇
They said there was 10 stages of episode Shadow and they only released 3 stages, either they lied or we have to wait several months for news and updates...
I'll be honest guys. The only reason why I want Sonic Forces is because of Episode Shadow. I just never grew out of thinking he was cool. I may sound really stupid but hey, I freaking love Shadow. Now to see if Sonic Forces Bonus Edition becomes easy to get once the price lowers like Sonic Lost World did.
He's literally got the most stable story out of any of the cast why would liking his character be considered stupid even if they stopped having him around after SA2 he'd still be a fan favorite I think
Shadow got ruined in 05 (not 06) it showed him with max Edge on In sa2, heros and 06 he is not edge lord Just dealing with trauma/keep a promise Who he is/is he real And a future with him detained by his friends He's just unsocial but the most loyal character In games He's never was a edgelord but for now he is
So the whole reason why Infinite is who he is, is because he was humiliated by Shadow in a fight, then bitched like a baby saying how weak he is, so then he got the Ruby Only one thing remains WHO THE FUCK IS INFINITE EXACTLY?! They keep pulling his face away into off-screen, WHY? When you think about it, the whole plot of Sonic Forces is all Shadow's fault, soooooooo, oops
CBear624 That's dumb. If SEGA showed Infinites face (which would be for 99% ugly) the community would be angry at that so stop writing such dumb comments. Go watch the Star Wars 7 with Kylo Ren in it.
What's the point of making a masked character and then not bothering to show his actual face? Like at all? At the end of the Forces story would've been perfect to show it since that was his final moments, but nope, he just poofed and that's it I want to see what this guy actually looks like instead of making him look edgier which is a pathetic excuse The community being pissed off because of a masked figure revealing his face, that's dumb, where the hell did you get that?
So the big mystery of who Infinite was... that SEGA hyped up for MONTHS... is a random guy that just was introduced into THIS game not even in the story, but in a prequel DLC episode? That was not handled well
It's also implied in the main game that he's a robot. Eggman calls Infinite his "creation" in the beginning, and Amy mentions a place being where "Infinite was brought into the world" towards the end. Sooooooo the game literally retcons itself. Huh.
@@edwheezer6231 No it doesn't? Infinite was a Jackle that was experimented on with the Phantom Ruby and mutated into the Infinite that's the villain of the game. he was created essentially by Eggman in that lab.
Manic Grin The sad part is that it's true. Now that we know who he really is, nobody cares because he's just some random guy who never existed before this game.
Do you think Infinite would feel better if Shadow just dragged his speech like "you're weak. just like everyone else. except me, because I am Shadow the Hedgehog, the ultimate lifeform, literally god."
It's so hilarious how Infinite's song, which initially sounds like he's going to be a serious threat, can now be viewed as Infinite hyping the hell out of himself after seeing how weak af this guy is and how underwhelming his role in the story was. How incredibly pretentious these characters can be sometimes......
It almost feels like Sega was taking the complete piss out of its stereotypical "edgy" fans...right down to practically copying the style of the band used for 90% of their AMVs.
Infinite's backstory is bullshit. He turned into a edge-lord because he was defeated once!? It is just like what tfs did with brolly's backstory: " ...he's so cool, but that's so dumb!!!"
The voice acting for this game is wonderful. Shadow's voice actor from Boom is perfect. Although i did like his voice a lot in '06, but i could barely hear what he was saying a lot in the game. So im glad they kept the same voice actor from Sonic Boom for Shadow.
When infinite says "you tore down without a second thought" his voice is kinda angry, I think he is angry because his team was killed while shadow was destroying the base
Infinite didn't start out with the Phantom Ruby. He was given it by Dr. Eggman, who found it after the events of Sonic Mania. He's not a God of the Phantom Ruby.
Shadow would make the perfect dbz character lol. Hes a frickin badass. The way he juggle infinite was incredible. I wanted to see shadow take a bigger role in destroying him
FP Berserk Shadow is not like Vegeta, Shadow doesn't job to hype up the villains, Shadow roundhouse kicks everything in his path to prove he's the Ultimate Lifeform
Anthony Considering how Shadow became useless since 06 and how Vegeta does the same thing when he tries to prove his superiority,it's pretty easy to compare both of them.
FP Berserk It... it was a joke, you didn't understand that and besides Shadow still didn't get treated nearly as bad as Vegeta, Shadow still has a badass factor, Vegeta has no badass factor at all because whenever he do something badass he gets his asskicked right after. Shadow may have been useless after 06 but Vegeta was even worse
Not an identity if the face isn't clear for us to see Even though his face isn't actually revealed which is a fucking letdown since he kept adjusting his mask all the time making it look like he has an ugly looking face, but since they never actually revealed it, it makes him look like a little bitch that doesn't his own face for no real reason, it doesn't look disfigured, no injuries, he just didn't like it, so how did they expect to make this work if they made him none other than a whiny bitch that been humiliated by Shadow even though his stood no chance against him?
If anyone doesn't know but omega is voiced by Vic Mignogna who voices ed in fullmetal alchemist if anyone doesn't know And they should make more episodes of the other sonic characters
Tbh im disappointed in episode shadow. There's only 3 stages, and they teased infinites face so bad in the cutscenes it actually pissed me off when he put on the mask, i like sonic forces a lot, and i was hyped for epsiode shadow, but it left me with a bad taste in my mouth
Shadow LLX well... sega said that it will be only 3 stages in the revelation trailer and atleast they explained why infinite uses the mask and the phantom ruby
Shadow’s first stage : Remix of Westopolis (Shadow the hedgehog) Shadow’s second stage : Remix of white jungle (SA2) Shadow’s Green hill stage : Remix of Biolizard (SA2)
I like how Episode Shadow pays homage to the original Shadow the Hedgehog game with noticeably remixed versions of the original soundtrack. The background music of the dialogue portion sounds like the options menu, and the first stage has music similar to the Westopolis theme in the original game.
well if you want to be technical shadow is indeed better than sonic since he was created with the battle data of sonic in his super form and the blood of black doom so when shadow turns "super" he's actually tapping into his hyper form which is a step up from sonic's super form so if you want to put it that way shadow is indeed superior to sonic
ramon mystiere thats right, but i don't like the fact that he didn't evolve as a character because he always be that edgy guy who doesn't make anything for the others because he don't want
So you're telling me Infinite was some incompetent merc who had an autistic tantrum because Shadow the Hedgehog kicked ass and took names. Can't say Sega doesn't know its customer base.
@Matt Dave "autistic tantrum", now I actually take offence to that, because I'm autistic (w/ asperger's to be more precise) and that's kind of a lame and rude way to describe Infinite's reaction to Shadow's insults. True I have had my anger moments, but never a true temper tantrum, since I was a kid (as I've got a better hold on my anger).
From 11:15 to 13:25 I actually really like Kirk Thornton's (voice actor of) Shadow. For me Shadow needs to have a softer voice like the previous 2 voice actors and for the most part Kirk's shadow has always seemed too rough. But this DLC proves (for me at least) that he is perfectly capable for the roll, it's just that the voice direction isn't up to expectations. Which technically is all the modern roles, like Roger Craig Smith's Sonic, it's not the voice actors fault that the characters don't sound right, but the lines they are given to work with and the direction they are given to work off of, the modern cast is as perfectly capable as the previous voice casts.
It's funny that Shadow's levels consist of nothing more than just Sonic's levels with boxes at the end arranged to look like a level. Now we know why this DLC is free
Some random guy out of context: "...weak (or week if you want to be punny)..." Infinite: "What does that mean? Why did you say that word? 'Weak'?! WHY DID YOU SAY THAT WORD?!"
The fact that sonic is holding his own right now is still pretty impressive for the blue blure and for once actual combat in a sonic game that looks good in cutscene form
Ah, so they changed it up. It's no longer "Boost to Win" Now, it's half "Boost to Win" and "Attack to Win" He bos He atacc But most importantly, He edge
Note that Infinite barely mentions his squad. It's all about his own insecurities. He goes down once, and then he's shaking. Seriously, the 14 year old Silver put up a better fight. Not to mention he takes his failure to defeat Shadow in Virtual Reality really well. If you can't defeat Shadow's diseased mind, who can you defeat? He really is pathetic.
It's been over ten years since Shadow has been playable in a non-spin off sonic game. I used to hate shadow, but I've actually missed playing as him. I'm looking forward to playing this
Infinite: You took everything from me
Shadow: I don't even know you
just like the last of us 2
Infinite: You will...
@@小麥麥 I rather play sonic 06 than tlou2
@@killah_bal_48 true
Sidney Peter that's avengers endgame refference hahahaha!
Yet another villain inadvertently created by Shadow who doesn't have a mouth XD
Oh he has a mouth in the Comics and Have Different eyes like the General from Shadow The Hedgehog 2005
Kkll
Wich is the other one
@@LeonoXD Mephiles
@@newbaggett is he canon?
Kirk's really improving as Shadow IMO. And I'm glad we're getting to hear more of Omega's and Rouge's current VOs
Hype VoiceActing I know right but why does Infinite hate Sonic more than Shadow
Kirk is 60 something so if he messes up a lil id give it a slide lol i think his voice is amazing as Shadow.
He still sucks arse tbh. He's 60 and it really shows. This isn't even Shadow anymore, just some random whispering old fart.
Julian Rhaney His acting is not nice.
He does sound much better. I don’t think I’ll ever be used to Roger Craig Smith on Sonic though.
"I'm not weeeeaaaak!!!!!"
Wow, and people thought Shadow was an edgelord...
Moral of the Story: Don't say "weak" or "week" in earshot of Infinite.
He's literally having PTSD symptoms though
pls don't call Shadow "edgy" it's an insult to a good character or at least a formerly good one
@@donathan2933 Isn't there a vid on UA-cam explaining how Shadow isn't really edgy as everyone thinks him to be
@@sacredpower7530 yes, yes their is, go watch it
Anyone else catch Omega's "Damage to parietal lobe region" line? The parietal lobe is the part of the brain that deals with sensory information, which implies that the effects of the Phantom Ruby have damaged his sensors, making it impossible for him to distinguish between reality and Infinite's illusions. Kind of weird that they're implying his brain functions similarly to an organic brain, but it's a neat little line, even if it is treated as an off-the-cuff thing.
That makes so much sense…
I like how they have all of Shadow's themes from the past in the game.
Too bad they give us "supporting me" without a modern revamped version of the biolizard battle.
I didn’t hear “I am” from his standalone game. With the guns. GTA shadow
@@TriggerVR657 CHAOS.... BLAST!!!!
How many roundhouse kicks has Shadow done in his lifetime?
Sonic '06: Chaos... CONTROL! (Roundhouse kicks Silver)
Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric: (Roundhouse kicks Tails into a time hole and jumps in after him)
Sonic Forces: Chaos Control! (Roundhouse kicks his duplicate and roundhouse kicks Infinite)
Shadow really loves roundhouse kicks.
Captain LastrEo IKR!? But I don't blame him. Having metallic jet boots with big heels and strong legs would hurt like Hell.
ROADHOUSE
Short answer: Not enough.
Someone actually asked for more moments like that...
Because they sexy as fuck, the way Shadow does it.
Shadows voice is so much better in this than the one in sonci boom
Sif Greyfang Yeah he sounds more like Shadow759
kenpoarniceguy1 lol I think 759 sounds better...at least he sounds like kirk when he does his boom voice on a few videos
Lets be real shadow759 is probbley a good unofficial VA for shadow but regardless the shadow VA here is the same school yard bully from boom
Kids stop
SUPERSONIC129 No one can stop the edgyness
6:03
*Hmph. should have hired some defense squads for the defense squad, eh doctor?*
That was pretty savage
Hate to be that person but the eh doctor is getting me weak-
What a savage....
Never knew he would ever say that.
Yes
He’s a savage
Something about Infinite's "reunion" with Shadow really bothers me. Like, you're a villain with the ability to literally manipulate reality going up against a character with one of the most tragic back stories of anyone in the entire series and you don't even decide to play that up? For goodness sake, hit Shadow where it hurts you masked clown! Make him feel just as weak and pathetic as you did after he beat your face in! This is how it should have went:
Instead of putting Shadow into a virtual version of the future Green Hill zone, take Shadow back to his weakest moment: the night of GUN's raid on the Space Colony ARK. That would have even have the added bonus of giving players a chance to play through a level themed around the ARK, which is something I'm sure a lot of SA2 fans would have appreciated. Then, upon beating the level, Shadow then gets to relive the painful moment of being completely powerless to save Maria. In fact, let's take the psychological torment a step further and keep playing that memory of Maria's death on a loop for Shadow until he's a broken, emotional wreck. At this point Infinite could say something to the effect of this before walking away victoriously:
"You were created the ultimate lifeform, but instead you ended up the ultimate failure! Oh well, in time, that matter anyway! HAHaHAHaHAHaa!" - The true Infinite.
Maybe that was too edgy for the kids? I mean, they mention Sonic was tortured, and I don't think this kind of interaction would really surpass that.
Nat The Porcupine dollars to doughnuts, Infinite never knew Shadow's backstory.
He still could've asked Eggman about it, but i suppose he figured that he was so strong now that he didn't need anyone's help in breaking Shadow...
Take notes Sega
The whole game concept was a mistake. Sonic mania had a contrasting tone and it turned to be better than this one in almost every way (except graphics of course). Sonic needs a deeply fun tone with a really menacing villain to balance that. (The sonic movie guy will voice sonic in games since Roger Craig is retiring, so we might get something really good voice work).
This is definitely a better thought for the back story, too bad sega is just making the sonic games more childish each day. Like when you see sonic in his cell after being “tortured” for months he’s normal like he could of at least been in a more devasted state. Also is infinite was trying to show shadow that he isn’t weak he should of tried to direct his attacks to shadow more then sonic. Ik egg man telling him to beat sonic but he feels like this cuz of shadow and the boss battle at the end could have been him and shadow or something because infinite feels like this because of him
Torture is just a word, because it clearly didn't happen. Sonic wasn't hurt, not a hair was out of place, and he didn't look shaken or weakened at all. Actually, the first thing he did after he was released was beat the shit out of one of the clones, which he did with no effort whatsoever.
Man, Shadow is straight ruthless.
Or Infinite is just a bigger bitch than Kylo Ren
Mischievous Yroo both
He let him live. Not so ruthless.
Brandon Stanley So you like the half-assed and lazy pretentious writing that tries to present this faceless bitch as the new badass, without giving us actual reasons to give a shit about him ?
And no, Shadow didn't take his eye. They just released the new comic showing what he and the Jackal Squad look like. He's still a stereotypical bitch with no motivation.
The only thing about the eyes I noticed is how this in-game model is so poorly made it doesn't have neither mouth or eyes.
What did you expect he's awesome!
"He's faster than sonic "
•slightly moves to the side •
I think we can all agree that the voice actor for Shadow vastly improved from Boom and Generations.
Or they told the voice actor to voice shadow differently
Which means he improved sped@@Mr.-Why
It's sad because Shadow is finally a heroic badass again (took them only 11 years...), yet the game didn't live up to the expectations... Oh well, at least the soundtrack did.
Ok
faded hills on the other hand
I personally don’t think the game is that bad, in my opinion longer stages and more intense boss fights would have done the trick. Also adding a bit to the mechanics would have been a great decision for the gameplay, but overall still not a horrible game like most sonic fans think.
@@TrashyJayys the final boss was hard with s broken controller
@@TrashyJayys It sucks.
I have a feeling "I'm not weak!" will be an internet meme.
Richard Briesch nope it's not , your forced a meme , now is doomed to be forgotten
Richard Briesch almost like *Its no use!*
(Sorry for my bad english)
I'm not weak As Shadow & Knuckles
hookiro I know this one is: This Guy is faster than Sonic!
Richard Briesch it wont cause there is already a weak meme
So... Shadow technically created Infinite..
Mucicadelasenoradinamita
Yeet
Yeah...pretty much...
No, technically, Eggman did.
GUN really needs to keep distant from Sonic.
Eggman: "Oh, no _I_ hate Sonic. _Infinite_ hates you. Because you beat him in a fight. Once."
Shadow: "But, that's really dumb. But he's so edgy. BUT THAT'S SO DUMB."
Ethan Hayes TFS lol
OMFG XD YES!
Thank you Team Four Star. You preach the truth. I salute.
Ethan Hayes You could say the same about Vegeta too Goku only beat him once now he's driven to surpass Goku in strength.
Ethan Hayes Besides defeats motivate you to become better and stronger even if you lose once.
It's nice to have Team Dark all together in the same game again, I really feel a bond that the three of them have :)
What bond?! Shadow is a douche to them both
@@lagforce7473 They're called Team DARK, were you expecting them to be "Friendship is Magic" (?)
@@tkcritic7368 mlp flashbacks
Yeah I agree. Along with Team Chaotix. But why they didn't in include Cream and Big to complete Team Rose, I'll never understand.
Reply 5
Eggman: “How is Shadow still alive?!”
Shadow: *Riding water slides while destroying motobugs*
10:34 how Rouge talked to Shadow it sounded like he was her husband and they're picking up their son Omega from school XDDDDD
Sonjamsn40 then again, that was just Infinite fucking with Shadow...
You realize those are just replicas of rouge and omega right
Yeah Lol
Shadouge is real
Shadow The Hedgehog, but with no guns and *THAT DAMN FOURTH CHAOS EMERALD.*
EDIT: I need to admit, it was kinda dissapointing that they still don't have a Chaos and Shadow boss fight, but at least the game still looks great.
Haneef Harrington shadow the edgelod was a good game would you agree
Haneef Harrington they will
Enerjak Knuckles in the patch update?
Haneef Harrington correct
ShadowBladeX mynintendonews website lol
6:41 "Shadow is still alive" *Shadow almost dies
So....Sonic Forces exist because Infinite wanted to be edgier than Shadow
HunBun Draws i dunno, Eggman would've still had the Phantom Ruby. Infinite was just a testbed for the gem's power- Eggman didn't even need him for his plan really...
Nobody can beat the edgelord shadow
angry lolbit you sure? Infinite beat Sonic and Sonic beat Shadow, so does that mean Infinite can beat Shadow?
Miguel Leis with the phantom ruby he could beat shadow no doubt without it... well we saw what happened.
First, Mephiles. Now, Infinite. Shadow really needs to...
No. GUN (Guardian Units of Nations) really needs to keep distant from Sonic.
There's just something wrong with this DLC...
Shadow never said "Damn"
Samiam Ok Okay shush
Samiam Ok Okay you what bitch
@@xnortheast1106 nope
@@azizafinley2855 nope yourself
That acctually made me snort, lol
Are we gonna ignore the fact that Shadow “murdered” the entire Jackal Squad during the infiltration?
They got what was coming to them
Look, if you don’t want to be killed, you should probably look for a better job than working as a mercenary for a wannabe fascist.
"Stealth is optional"
@@chonkythicc8357
+Shadow stealth is optional
-Ok CHAOS BLAST!
No, he just beat them, no one says he kill squad
So not only does Infinite just disappear at the end of the game, he also just turns out to be some guy who isn't important. Really dropped the ball on this one, Sonic Team.
They literally pulled the same stunt with the Deadly Six in Lost World! Infinite just poofs in out of nowhere and simply "goes away" at the end of the game with ZERO context. At least in Lost World Eggman actually mentions a possible idea of bringing the Zeti back for revenge. Here we don't even see what becomes of Eggman nor Infinite after the final boss.
Not only that, it was that recently confirmed that Infinite is actually just straight up dead and was absorbed into the Phantom Ruby. Four years later. They literally can't even do anything else with him because he's dead.
@@7grandmac where was that confirmed
@@tio752 It was in the Encyclo-speed-ia
But... if the phantom Ruby is there... THEN HE MUST BE THERE TOO. THEY NEVER SHOWED US THAT INFINITE'S RUBY WAS DESTROYED. ONLY THE DEATH EGG ROBOT WAS.
Shadow's best 3 stages of the game
and the only ones he get...
Mighty Wiz............ And it 3nds badly but it’s free so you get a taste of the past and present
You can play as shadow instead of sonic in the main game after you complete episode shadow tho
Noi Edduson wait wtf really
nchildress 4 yup
Mighty Wiz you can still play him on some of the regular sonic stages
How to trigger infinite.
Step 1: surprise him
Step 2: beat him in a fight
Step 3: call him weak
Step 4: run off
Step 5: repeat
To be fair, that would trigger anyone.
And yet that's exactly what he does. Isn't that interesting...?
"i will beat you up daily!"
So basically do what any sweaty gamer would do
@@altr1k”:O LIKE DENIS DAILY”
Now I know that a lot of people have complained with Infinite's origin story, and I have to say that this was actually clever on Sega's part that Infinite has a deep inferiority complex and he's hyping the hell out of himself. For the mental breakdown part Shadow KILLED all of his squad and even though they weren't competently innocent. There's also the implication that Infinite cared for his squad and he tried to avenge their deaths only to fail miserably and having Shadow mocking Infinite for his failure.
This scene shows that Infinite is beginning to lose his mind to the effects of the Phantom Ruby even though Shadow didn't call him weak Infinite still reads it as being called weak.
Eh it's not the best backstory that Sonic team could come up with, but it's better then The Deadly Six who were just there in Lost world and Lyric who was a pathetic excuse for a villain.
13:20 Really liked how Shadow was worried about Sonic there after Infinite mentioned his name.
I’m not weak.
Weak? Why did you say that word?!
weak...
gaze upon *INFINITE TRIGGERING!!!!!*
*screams in edge*
he Gaara from Naruto
you're everywhere
Edgelord vs edgelord
Winner... Edgelord
I like Infinite but his backstory is so stupid lol
Man, i thought edgelord would win.
*Hedgelord
Kolector yea me too :/
Bozer Flow
Coldsteal VS Shadow VS Infinite
The battle of the edgelords
7:49-8:07. And to think, this entire game could have been avoided had Shadow decided the one merc he left alive was worth killing... or at the very least worth capturing and interrogating.
Or you know.
If infinite wasn't weak.
Eggman would just have put the Phantom Ruby on someone else.
Brandon Stanley wait what
most of the game could've been avoided as well if they just killed sonic instead of taking him alive.
I'm going to give Kirk credit. I have NOT enjoyed his take on the character for years, but I think he's actually getting to a good place here.
What I really love about Shadow's portrayal in Forces (episode Shadow at least) is how genuinely he shows concern about Rouge and (especially) Omega. Sure, he's a bit smugy here and there, but he has some aspects of the REAL SHADOW back. Not perfect, but good start😇
Damn it. I wish there's more stages for Shadow, up to the point when Shadow came to rescue Sonic.
me to
Xierra Marron its whack how they don't cutscenes the convos with shadow and infinite feels good but lazy at the same time
They said there was 10 stages of episode Shadow and they only released 3 stages, either they lied or we have to wait several months for news and updates...
or we have to wait until.. TOMORROW.
This game needed more Shadow for this type of atmosphere. Also like how Infinite yelled "TAKE THIS!!!!" A very familiar "Silver" lining...
I'll be honest guys. The only reason why I want Sonic Forces is because of Episode Shadow. I just never grew out of thinking he was cool. I may sound really stupid but hey, I freaking love Shadow.
Now to see if Sonic Forces Bonus Edition becomes easy to get once the price lowers like Sonic Lost World did.
Lets all be honest...Shadow is the only one with a good story in the whole franchise.
He's literally got the most stable story out of any of the cast why would liking his character be considered stupid even if they stopped having him around after SA2 he'd still be a fan favorite I think
Same
@@BunxBunstudios14 and even then the writers have completely butchered his story for years now.
Shadow got ruined in 05 (not 06) it showed him with max Edge on
In sa2, heros and 06 he is not edge lord
Just dealing with
trauma/keep a promise
Who he is/is he real
And a future with him detained by his friends
He's just unsocial but the most loyal character In games
He's never was a edgelord but for now he is
So the whole reason why Infinite is who he is, is because he was humiliated by Shadow in a fight, then bitched like a baby saying how weak he is, so then he got the Ruby
Only one thing remains
WHO THE FUCK IS INFINITE EXACTLY?!
They keep pulling his face away into off-screen, WHY?
When you think about it, the whole plot of Sonic Forces is all Shadow's fault, soooooooo, oops
CBear624 That's dumb. If SEGA showed Infinites face (which would be for 99% ugly) the community would be angry at that so stop writing such dumb comments. Go watch the Star Wars 7 with Kylo Ren in it.
What's the point of making a masked character and then not bothering to show his actual face? Like at all? At the end of the Forces story would've been perfect to show it since that was his final moments, but nope, he just poofed and that's it
I want to see what this guy actually looks like instead of making him look edgier which is a pathetic excuse
The community being pissed off because of a masked figure revealing his face, that's dumb, where the hell did you get that?
He didn't he just pulled an excuse out of his ass for Sega's shitty writing.
CBear624 Kylo Ren. Do i have to say more? Also you can see Infinites face in the Forces comics now
CBear624 Also sorry for calling your comment dumb
Damn, who else freaked out when Omega started shouting "I AM NOT WEAK" over and over?
That shit was almost akin to psychological horror, dude. I did not expect that from a Sonic game.
It was honestly really creepy.
And the unused voice lines make it even better, too bad they're unused.
It reminds me of the Daleks from Doctor Who.
Am I the only who really likes Shadow Portrayal in Forces? He isn't edgy for no reason and makes me think of Sesshomaru from Inuyasha
Forces treated him better, definitely.
So the big mystery of who Infinite was... that SEGA hyped up for MONTHS... is a random guy that just was introduced into THIS game not even in the story, but in a prequel DLC episode? That was not handled well
In a side comic really if we are taking the beginning of his story.
It's also implied in the main game that he's a robot. Eggman calls Infinite his "creation" in the beginning, and Amy mentions a place being where "Infinite was brought into the world" towards the end.
Sooooooo the game literally retcons itself. Huh.
@@edwheezer6231 No it doesn't? Infinite was a Jackle that was experimented on with the Phantom Ruby and mutated into the Infinite that's the villain of the game. he was created essentially by Eggman in that lab.
infinite: nobody cared who I was until I put on the mask...
DKR huh?
Rouge: Doctor Eggman, I'm G.U.N. You don't get to bring friends.
Manic Grin The sad part is that it's true. Now that we know who he really is, nobody cares because he's just some random guy who never existed before this game.
*SHADOW:* "to you, the day i massacred your squad and humiliated you was the most important day of your life. But for me, _it was Tuesday."_
Manic Grin hey that's obitos line 😂
Obito Ichihas or tom hardy's in every other action film he's in
Love the way Shadow looks.
Do you think Infinite would feel better if Shadow just dragged his speech like "you're weak. just like everyone else. except me, because I am Shadow the Hedgehog, the ultimate lifeform, literally god."
Shadow: Should have hired some defense squads for the defense squad?
Dr. Eggman: BLACK DOOM TAUGHT YOU TO ROAST, DIDN'T HE?
1:43 I never thought I'd see that day where Shadow would need Wisps to help him out.
or should you say skittle rejects
(get it eh eh? •v•......ok i’ll leave)
@@donniesquid4935 Taste the rainbow.
It's so hilarious how Infinite's song, which initially sounds like he's going to be a serious threat, can now be viewed as Infinite hyping the hell out of himself after seeing how weak af this guy is and how underwhelming his role in the story was. How incredibly pretentious these characters can be sometimes......
nintendolife25 Which is actually quite "profound" for a Sonic game. Not much, just quite.
I have no doubt this was all intentional. Sega, you clever bastards.
nintendolife25 reminds me of kylo ren
Imma Xehanort its not clever
It almost feels like Sega was taking the complete piss out of its stereotypical "edgy" fans...right down to practically copying the style of the band used for 90% of their AMVs.
Infinite got destroyed by shadow
All Hail Shadow
Obliterating everything thats not your friend!
Nothing can stop you now
No ghosts to bring you down!
NOTHING LEFT TO LOSE, YOU WIIIIN!
Bow your head low ALL HAIL SHADOW!!!
8:37, this guy needs a snickers
..EEeeEE..
Infinite's backstory is bullshit.
He turned into a edge-lord because he was defeated once!? It is just like what tfs did with brolly's backstory: " ...he's so cool, but that's so dumb!!!"
Eggman and infinite both imply that shadow killed infinite tribe so its just a revenge story
TheDerpyFox True it's just in reality sonic current writers just cant write something like death serious without it sounding forced
Why you are beaten by an edge lord you must become an edge lord
Theres a 4th issue of the sonic forces prequel comic called "the rise of infinite", go check it out. (Spoiler: Infinite face is there)
RalphJeremy 65 I know, I meant how infinite got the ruby
"Our long awaited reunion.." Mephiles???!!!
I don't care if it was before the cutscene that I commented that, I am making a statement dammit!
what if infinete was mephiles's son
...... plot twist
Raimy onlinewarrior no...... no........
At The Crossing Productions haha i was only joking
that would be stupid
Sort of, both Infinite and Mephiles started out with a humiliating defeat by Shadow...
The voice acting for this game is wonderful.
Shadow's voice actor from Boom is perfect. Although i did like his voice a lot in '06, but i could barely hear what he was saying a lot in the game. So im glad they kept the same voice actor from Sonic Boom for Shadow.
When infinite says "you tore down without a second thought" his voice is kinda angry, I think he is angry because his team was killed while shadow was destroying the base
Yes,It actually did….
BUT WHO IS INFINITE THOUGH!? JUST TAKE THE MASK OFF
some guy
that's all you get
A Jackal
A mercenary.
He is the Phantom Ruby god.
Infinite was in Sonic Mania because of the Phantom Ruby
Infinite didn't start out with the Phantom Ruby. He was given it by Dr. Eggman, who found it after the events of Sonic Mania. He's not a God of the Phantom Ruby.
Shadow would make the perfect dbz character lol. Hes a frickin badass. The way he juggle infinite was incredible. I wanted to see shadow take a bigger role in destroying him
Zen-oh sama Well,Vegeta is like the Shadow of DB so I guess there is one.
FP Berserk Yeah, if only shadow played a bigger role and showed more of what he could do
FP Berserk Shadow is not like Vegeta, Shadow doesn't job to hype up the villains, Shadow roundhouse kicks everything in his path to prove he's the Ultimate Lifeform
Anthony Considering how Shadow became useless since 06 and how Vegeta does the same thing when he tries to prove his superiority,it's pretty easy to compare both of them.
FP Berserk It... it was a joke, you didn't understand that and besides Shadow still didn't get treated nearly as bad as Vegeta, Shadow still has a badass factor, Vegeta has no badass factor at all because whenever he do something badass he gets his asskicked right after. Shadow may have been useless after 06 but Vegeta was even worse
Why can't tails do anything anymore
Riley Forbes Because Sonic Team wants all the attention on Sonic and not his friends. Fuck Iizuka.
Riley Forbes Because the writters don't even bother to study the past events of the story related to the game they are making.
Because y'know Ken Pontac and Warren Graff *cough* *cough*
As much as i don't like Kirk as shadow, i wont deny that he really improved here.
I LOVE the remastered versions of the music from Shadow's game that they used here. SO MUCH NOSTALGIA WITH PLAYING AS HIM.
7:51 to 7:55,aren't those moves from the intro of shadow the hedgehog
Infinite's true identity before he wore a mask and took hold of the phantom ruby... interesting.
KingSpartaX37 no it's not
Not an identity if the face isn't clear for us to see
Even though his face isn't actually revealed which is a fucking letdown since he kept adjusting his mask all the time making it look like he has an ugly looking face, but since they never actually revealed it, it makes him look like a little bitch that doesn't his own face for no real reason, it doesn't look disfigured, no injuries, he just didn't like it, so how did they expect to make this work if they made him none other than a whiny bitch that been humiliated by Shadow even though his stood no chance against him?
Not even close
CBear624 How do you get that idea of his face if we didn't see it?
CBear624 fix your English
So many callbacks for shadow in his episode, my fav of course being when he teleports like he does in the intro to Shadow the Hedgehog
So I guess infinite is more shadow's enemy than he is sonic's
If anyone doesn't know but omega is voiced by Vic Mignogna who voices ed in fullmetal alchemist if anyone doesn't know
And they should make more episodes of the other sonic characters
yuki nagato he also voices qrow from rwby and sabo from one piece
yuki nagato SERIOUSLY?!!!!
HT82 Smash yup
yuki nagato infinite is gaara
Isn't he also Broly from Dbz?
Tbh im disappointed in episode shadow. There's only 3 stages, and they teased infinites face so bad in the cutscenes it actually pissed me off when he put on the mask, i like sonic forces a lot, and i was hyped for epsiode shadow, but it left me with a bad taste in my mouth
Bad taste in your out sounds like a medical condition
Morgan Freeman mouth* sorry
Shadow LLX well... sega said that it will be only 3 stages in the revelation trailer and atleast they explained why infinite uses the mask and the phantom ruby
Mario Kart 8 boy dude we all know now infinite’s a hitman
You don't think this will become a dragon ball comparison with Hit?
"A couple of months ago..."
Shadow went to the Water Park.
Shadow’s first stage : Remix of Westopolis (Shadow the hedgehog)
Shadow’s second stage : Remix of white jungle (SA2)
Shadow’s Green hill stage : Remix of Biolizard (SA2)
7:50 who remembers this sequence from the Shadow The Hedgehog intro?
The first stage is (I think) a remix of Westopolis
It's almost identical tbh o3o
well, we finally found out what Infinite is; a Jackal
💕
"ONLY SCARS REMAIN OF WHO I WAS"
Well the song have a little more sense now
I like how Episode Shadow pays homage to the original Shadow the Hedgehog game with noticeably remixed versions of the original soundtrack. The background music of the dialogue portion sounds like the options menu, and the first stage has music similar to the Westopolis theme in the original game.
13:07 "This power, before we even tuned it! just as i thought, it is unrivaled!" damn that's my favorite quote from infinite
Its me or Shadow *"IS FASTER THAN SONIC"*
Chaos Control
He are, are he?
RichardDasher actually shadow is better than Sonic because he is too OP
well if you want to be technical shadow is indeed better than sonic since he was created with the battle data of sonic in his super form and the blood of black doom so when shadow turns "super" he's actually tapping into his hyper form which is a step up from sonic's super form so if you want to put it that way shadow is indeed superior to sonic
ramon mystiere thats right, but i don't like the fact that he didn't evolve as a character because he always be that edgy guy who doesn't make anything for the others because he don't want
If you pause on the right couple of frames on 8:28, you can see Infinite's very empty face.
So you're telling me Infinite was some incompetent merc who had an autistic tantrum because Shadow the Hedgehog kicked ass and took names.
Can't say Sega doesn't know its customer base.
Matt Dave i laughed too hard at this
also the fact that Shadow killed all his friends but I guess everyone was too quick to complain about the game to remember that
"Autistic temper tantrum" Damn Infinite just got roasted
@@michalander2131 I am not autistic!!!!
@Matt Dave "autistic tantrum", now I actually take offence to that, because I'm autistic (w/ asperger's to be more precise) and that's kind of a lame and rude way to describe Infinite's reaction to Shadow's insults. True I have had my anger moments, but never a true temper tantrum, since I was a kid (as I've got a better hold on my anger).
I’m really glad that they did all they could to bring back 06 Shadow fits him perfectly.
From 11:15 to 13:25 I actually really like Kirk Thornton's (voice actor of) Shadow. For me Shadow needs to have a softer voice like the previous 2 voice actors and for the most part Kirk's shadow has always seemed too rough. But this DLC proves (for me at least) that he is perfectly capable for the roll, it's just that the voice direction isn't up to expectations. Which technically is all the modern roles, like Roger Craig Smith's Sonic, it's not the voice actors fault that the characters don't sound right, but the lines they are given to work with and the direction they are given to work off of, the modern cast is as perfectly capable as the previous voice casts.
Anyone else gonna talk about the "Do it to it" quote by Rouge?
It's funny that Shadow's levels consist of nothing more than just Sonic's levels with boxes at the end arranged to look like a level. Now we know why this DLC is free
Evil Trapezium shit, can't argue with a free story expansion...!
Technically, it isn't free since you got to own Sonic Forces and that piece of shit costs money.
Evil Trapezium _semantics..._
@@Chronobus he's talking about the dlc not the game
Some random guy out of context: "...weak (or week if you want to be punny)..."
Infinite: "What does that mean? Why did you say that word? 'Weak'?! WHY DID YOU SAY THAT WORD?!"
Neo Machine i love the mental image of Infinite is having a "Nicholas Cage Wicker Man" -style meltdown...
I’m surprised how Shadow’s voice actor improved here, sounds more natural.
I love how the dialogue boxes are written like what Shadow would actually say
What the most of shadow on the world map where's he talking with infinite
Ost
It's a remix of the menu music from Shadow the Hedgehog.
lord beast I got the best shadow voice over
The fact that sonic is holding his own right now is still pretty impressive for the blue blure and for once actual combat in a sonic game that looks good in cutscene form
So I guess Infinite is a Jackal
San Juan Yes, he is.
I think infinite has become one of the best bosses in sonic history. :) I like how intimidating he is. The voice matches him perfectly.
Moral of the Story: Don't say "weak" or "week" in earshot of Infinite.
I don't know, I feel like this games plot needs to be further explained.
Damn Shadow's voice actor did hell of a good job in this
Shadow seemed concerned about sonic, I liked the plot. It really explains a lot.
0:58 What is this a callback to Sonic cartoons? Not that I'm complaining, I love the reference!
"Let's do it to it!"
Ah, so they changed it up.
It's no longer "Boost to Win"
Now, it's half "Boost to Win" and "Attack to Win"
He bos
He atacc
But most importantly,
He edge
You know... This dosn't realy explain that much...
Superchocolatemilkshake Johnney Windo I bet if you look into it for 10 minutes, it gives more questions than answers.
EVERYONE STOP COMPLAINING THAT THEY DIDNT SHOW INFINTES FACE , ON TWITTER THE OFFICIAL SONIC ACOUNT RELEASED A COMIC REVEALING IT!
Segautism i think the problem is that people dismissed that as mere fanart...
@@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225
oh brother....
6:41
"Shadow is STILL alive!?"
**shadow proceeds to almost die**
Note that Infinite barely mentions his squad. It's all about his own insecurities. He goes down once, and then he's shaking. Seriously, the 14 year old Silver put up a better fight. Not to mention he takes his failure to defeat Shadow in Virtual Reality really well. If you can't defeat Shadow's diseased mind, who can you defeat?
He really is pathetic.
He is more cocky than Sonic. Reminds me of the Deadly Six.
So the motivation is he got his feelings hurt?
So all of those people died because shadow dissed a dude who made a mask. (By the way that mask is epic!!!!)
Also murdered his friends but mostly yeah.
Solaris - shadow keeps putting the world in danger becuz of his evil side
It's been over ten years since Shadow has been playable in a non-spin off sonic game. I used to hate shadow, but I've actually missed playing as him. I'm looking forward to playing this
I like this guy.......especially that calm and cool voice
12:43
Infinite: This ks reality, shadow, *Your reality*
Starts singing*: *Everyday, I imagine a future where I can be with you~*
How come literally one percent of the comments section are shipping Shadow and Infinite as well as Shadow and Rouge?
@@TheRobloxianBeatSabertist gay furry sexual tension
@@rabbidsnipes5654 Figures.