Discord Link: discord.gg/GdjfRRzNaD Also The amount of people who are telling me the g70 isnt a rebadged Kia and tryna explain it is honestly concerning. People, it is called a J O K E. Yes they share the same platform, engine and transmission, which is why i said it just like I'd say a ghost is a rebadged 7 series because it shares the same platform
4:21 you forgot one thing car brands especially German ones like porsche bmw under advertise thier cars performance so a porsche that is 550hp on paper is actually 660-700hp on dyno
People have gotten so used to high speed cars in the general media that ive even found myself thinking the Countach and Miura not being that fast THE COUNTACH
To be fair the Countach sucks when it comes to speed. Zero traction, takes a while to get the engine up to speed (in modern days that is), takes corners like a truck and overall they are really unsafe at high speeds. Not to mention the hp loss it suffered from over the past 40+ years. So yes, the Countach really isn't that fast anymore unless we count the QV or the 25th Anniversary.
@Corvolet5 its not slow tho is what im saying Were so used to hypercars and supercars doing 275+ its been normalized anything slower might as well be a model T
real good point you talk about We've gotten used to powerful cars, and it's the same with fitness. A well-built body from 30 years ago that looked amazing in movies back then now seems ordinary because there's a large number of people who go to the gym and look great. And with cars, besides power, there's another issue...comfort. Sports cars have become so well soundproofed that you don't even feel like you have over 500 horsepower under the hood. In the '70s Porsches and Jaguars you mentioned, you could hear every component of the car. Now, in an M5 or AMG GT, it's perfect, you even get seat massages. So sporty, right? XDD
I don't think the reason movie starts from back in the day seems ordinary now is because more people work out, as much as it's almost every Hollywood actor now using some form of steroids, although the end result is much the same effect. A great example of this is to compare Pierce Brosnan's and Daniel Craig's iterations of James Bond. In much the same vain, cars have been taking on steroids for quite a lot of years, to the point where anything with less than 300bhp is often considered 'regular traffic'. The hyper-individualism that's so rampant in society today, where everyone thinks they have to be "the star of their own movie" in turn also leads us to try and emulate what we see on the big screen, be that increasingly fast and expensive cars or unnaturally obtainable bodies.
In '93 I drove a 75 hp Mitsubishi, '99 a 90 hp Audi, 2002 a 103 hp Renault, 2005 a 113 hp Mitsubishi, in 2008 a 192 hp Toyota, and since 2014 a 260 hp Volvo. So yes, numbers have gone up a bit.
This reminds me of my first time in the USA, when i got to meet my brother-in-law's friends who like cars as much as I do. I drive a 2001 64hp Volkswagen Polo 9N with the 1.9 SDI engine, which is by no means a fast vehicle, and when i described it to them they were like "64hp? My mower makes more power than that! How do you even get it out of it's own way?!" She's a brilliant little machine, fuel efficient and absolutely bulletproof, and it's got enough power to get me to where i need to be no problem at all. 64hp may not be much at all but at least i get to always go flat-out!
@ ok fine its not a good example but my point is take a previous gen E53 a Honda CTR has a better power to weight even with 100hp less (yeah its slower only because its fwd) but ho don’t mean so much
Power to weight ratio is king, then comes aeordynamic factor which mostly determines top speed and acceleration above 130-150 kph. those 2 factors determine speed of a car, but people only talk about HP
I remember just 10 years ago, if you had over 200hp on a normal car. It would be considered as a fast car. Then came the hybrids, VW GTE Golf with over 220hp is actually NUTS when most normal golfs had under 140hp. I had an Audi TT 2016 a couple years ago. I loved it, 230hp stock on a light car like that was a dream to drive. It was fast at the time, but with a 0-100 km/h time at just 6 seconds is pretty lackluster nowadays. Especially with electric cars. My Tesla model Y has OVER 400HP. It's completely insane that this many HP is accessible for most people now. BUT, the power is boring. There is no life to the power it so i stopped caring about it. But the point stands, when a normal family SUV had between 180-220hp not long ago and now it's more then doubled... I love the development but it's pretty crazy when most high powered cars earlier were mostly for enthusiasts and people who KNEW how to drive it.
Companies have managed to sell HP and 0-60 numbers as either the fun factor or prestige factor in modern cars. You cant really sell "this car is 20% more fun to drive then the previous one" and sadly many people fall for it. The only upside: it leads to funny situations where a "performance SUV" gets toasted by a 2 decade old hot hatch on a few turns.
I think the biggest part of this power creep is that the car industry was always set on making new iterations of every model, like VW with the golf and when people upgrade to a newer model they expect every part of the newer model to be better, including the power of it. So over time with more and more newer models coming out, the power just crept up further and further even if not necessary. If the car industry would be more focused on releasing a completely new car every time, I dont think this would be a thing now, considering they can just call it something else and thereby not have people looking at it as an upgrade but as something entirely new.
To put some things in perspective, gt3 cars only make around 550hp, lmp1 cars (with hybrid and thats half the power) makes around 987hp, just 154hp more then that Mercedes and with how hybrid works it is not always utilised so you have somewhere around 493,hp, thats your average car nowadays. (I got the numbers in official toyota website by adding up engine and hybrid motor power)
I'll do you one better: Why are cars becoming so DAMN BRIGHT!!!??? [And LEGALLY too] Like how am I going to be in trouble if I was going to have 1 partially burnt/ almost gone light bulb randomly/ inconveniently out on the highway or slightly darken the tint of my car to protect my eyes (especially at night from big pick up trucks with super bright stock LED lights), but then at the same time the government decided it's completely fine for these new pick up trucks to have standard factory lights being brighter than most other car's high beams, & then their high beams being a literal permanent flashbang on the road along with standard super dark tinted windows???
It's funny watching those old top gear episodes with insane 600hp cars and them summing up by saying its too much and undriveable. Just look at the F1, OG Zonda and the koenigsegg the stig crashed. Now 600 is considered standard.
honestly 600 being "standard" is kinda bad with videos of GTRs gapping the best bikes out there encouraging broccoli heads who drive crossfaded to upgrade their car to levels they cant handle and then ~300hp (which is still a lot depending on the car) becomes frowned upon, giving unrealistic expectations and standards
Cars got significantly safer rides since the 90s. Nowadays a BMW M5 CS is safer to drive than a base model Diablo, despite being vastly different in power.
Im just happy to know my 01’ E55 AMG is packing V8 350hp and a 0-60 in 5 seconds, and even though thats seen as “normal traffic” numbers, it being lighter and being naturally aspirated. Knowing that during it’s prime days, it was seen as a decently powerful sports car. Now it’s seen more as a gt cruiser car.
So that's why I'm being seeing so many cars just speed through my Civic 2015, my car literally can't keep up with them even though they to the red line 2 sec before me.
A lotta unsuspecting people have dealt with this, me included. Though I got smoked by an SUV that pushed 1200 horsepower and was built, bit different but quite embarrassing 🤣
@Torkyo4ASpin Hurry up and wait. But thankfully my S gear still work so I can still catch up when entering the highway. Especially the one that go up hill. I will keep driving the civic until the end of time. I trust mine car more than any other car.
Imagine what would happen if you inadvertedly press down on the gas pedal more than you should while parking one of these hp monsters in a parking lot or while cruising around in a urban area with a lot of traffic or simply driving up a steep ramp on a building, and your vehicle safety system fails to adjust your command in that instance…
Well, unless you are driving a 650 hp ev or you’re VERY slow, nothing, ice engine response is not instantaneous, especially in turbocharged engines which represent most of the vehicles, at least in Europe, so if you accidentally press the gas pedal more than you should for a split second the turbine will start spinning faster but you will not receive the power boost unless you’re so slow that you don’t even realize what you’re doing and you keep the foot on the gas. Also, the pedal response is not linear, it looks more like an exponential curve so pressing the pedal a bit more will not make a big difference. In order to get a significant power boost, you have to press the pedal a lot and for a bit longer than just an accidental “stomp”. I personally daily drive a 340 hp car and it’s impossible to end up in a crash starting from a situation like the one you describe
@ I wouldn’t go that far in the motor power.. I would argue that in a plugin hybrid car and EV with more than 400 hp my example would still stand if the car system would fail to adapt the driver gas pedal input to one of that driving situations
@@marcolattuada5125yeah I drive a 370 hp M2 and it’s no more difficult or frankly different than my 155 hp Mazda lol in fact the 500 hp M4 I drove needed more throttle to move than both.
That is why the Miata or GT86 are loved by their owners and dunked by their haters People like to compare those to something like a Camry, even though is the latter one has grown in so much power compared to older models
Its good that normal cars are fast because it forces sports car manufacturers to actually differentiate in other ways. They have to focus on how the car feels. We now know power isnt everything
talk about how we need more analog inside car interiors 😭 Lexus was one of the few who had the no screen options and I see they’re new ones are adding less effort. I see it in the gauge it’s not the LFA inspired one anymore in some newer models 😅
I know you mentioned the CX-5 having 250hp, but its really an outlier. I have one, but in Australia where the CX-5 is wildly popular and is basically everywhere, no one has the 2.5L turbo trim, so while the options FOR cars are getting more powerful, the CX-5's number is definitely an outlier since I barely see that trim spec. I know the statistics may be different in America or Europe, but in Australia we have A LOT of them and not many have the 2.5L turbo. Also, I would like to point out that some economy cars which had V6's as a fun, spicy option have been dropped due to regulation and there fun amounts of power, and it kind of has me devastated.
Unlike Oz, where the speed limits are strictly and fairly enforced, in most of the US, the speed limits are taken by most drivers as advisory and commonly ignored. There are rare exceptions like school zones and known speed traps, but in most cases, people here in the US of lgnorania ignore the speed limits.
And here we are in Europe where the most popular cars are stuff like Pandas and Fiestas with barely 100bhp or more. Truth is, most cars are still between around 80-150bhp since any less it will lack power on highways, and any more its fuel consumption will suffer escpecially urban fuel consumption, and also beyond the price reach of many that simply want something to go places.
I have a BMW E46 330 Ci. Its 3 liter 6 cylinder engine produces 230 HP, which is enough for any situation. Even better, if you'll try to drag race the car, you wanna have good tires, cause to my surprise even such "small" amount of power can easily make the rear lose traction and now you're making a slow start with burnout. My father owns a VW Golf Sportsvan with 1.4 TSI petrol engine, which produces around 125-150 HP (not quite sure the exact modification of the engine). Again, its performance is absolutely adequate for any situation on the road. The only performance issue it has, its 7 speed robotic gearbox - it can be very slow in normal mode. In sports mode it works good. I have a feeling that if governments would come up with actually good eco-standards and manufactures wouldn't start the war of who makes the largest SUV, maybe car emissions wouldn't become such huge problem. By "good eco-standards", I mean the ones that encourage car companies to build normal sized lighter vehicles. One of the reasons why all of them produce SUVs today, is because its actually easier to pass emission testing for a bigger car then for a small one, which is just crazy.
@@ReasonX3 I have a 2019 Mercedes Benz e class 220d with only an humble 197 hp (humble in today’s standards) that I bought last year and I think is more than enough for my daily needs. I never felt slow on the road. I still own my first car a 1.2 eco flex opel corsa d from 2011 with only 84 hp and I still think it is good enough if you shift it correctly although the car structure gets turbulent when it gets past the 120km/h speeds and the car is not very economical in its petrol consumption hence why I bought the diesel Mercedes
Regular people have faster cars than ever, but yet they still merge the highway at 55kmph. My anger while I drive my 170hp lazy diesel is immeasurable.
Power to weight is forever the key Countless videos of 700+ bmws and GTR's getting walked by a mini thats got half the horsepower, and weight Plus you can still use the full engine on an open road
People often ignore how much have tyre and suspension (and brake) tech advanced and how much it has meant for cornering and accelerarion, even for top speed. We don't even have to go that far back; the Veyron's tyres would last just a few minutes going 400 kph, and now we have a Chiron comfy at 489 kph, just some years later. And of course, electronics. Today you can make a 2 ton toaster go faster 0-60 than the fastest supercars of the 90's, and that's mad. People don't understand that they don't need a million hp to go to work and get the groceries. A 100hp (and less) will get you anywhere and it's even more than enough to get yourself killed. Modern driving aids have turned the general public numb and ignorant to what a fast car means. This way we have things happen like with the F40's and Carrera GT's, 'not that powerful' by today's standards, but way more difficult and delicate to drive than a 1500hp Bugatti because they lack a few electrinic aids.
I do worry though because the power will continue going up with electric cars. I dont worry about the power, I worry about who's hands that power is about to fall into
I think a huge part of it isn’t necessarily that they’re just more powerful, I think it’s just as much or even more so how the cars put the power to the road with awd and stability control etc yeah they have more power but they’re heavier than the old cars too
Back when technology wasn’t so advanced, you can feel every bit of the old sports cars’ personality and charisma. Moreover, back then supercar makers focused more on top speed rather than acceleration. 400HP back then always meant 186MPH+ ( 300KM/H+ ) Nowadays, many sports cars have assists, comfort, short gear ratio, which makes mastering and taming them no longer a challenge, as well as the loss of characters. And it all started with the GTR R35 2007
@@GraveUypo I tried using it as an example on how people love to say it’s slow by todays standard and back than people were like “well for the same price I can buy this car that has more HP” and the top gear guy said the car is just a diff driving experience compared to the comp. not sure if that made sense
Hyundai Elantra N or N-line is a rocket when you drive it correctly,i could do 80 in about 6 seconds,but im staying in the power band because of the paddle shifters,i just need the brakes to stop it when its time to stop 🤝🤔
Car brands need to make reliable cars more. Wait. They are business, of course they will keep making craphole quality to keep people buying the new ones
4:31 bro is calling a 1800kg brick "light". Where did we go so wrong with sports and supercars? I'm glad that Lotus and Caterham are still around and Mazda still continues to produce the Miata
I cant wait to drive a car with over 500hp, i wonder how it feels, so far ive been enjoying driving my slow car fast, its manual too so its exciting stuff
I think there's 2 simple reasons. The standard of speed is always going up hence why all cars are getting faster. 2nd reason imo is the fact that weight on cars keeps going up due to safety regulations and such, hence companies add more power to counter the weight
"About half of all listed EVs can accellerate from 0 to 60 mph in under 4.5 seconds" -InsideEVs Electric cars' instant torque probably really helps, but I wouldn't know. I just like EVs and I hope that they're a part of the "Fast new cars" thing
@HighSp33d-r3d lmao no hate Its a thing me an torkyo started a few vids back I say Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR Tommi Mäkinen Edition on every video now
Imagine proudly owning a 6 figure supercar like a Lamborghini Gallardo. Only to see that a family saloon like a BMW M3 is keeping up with you. Or a Chinese electric SUV like the MG 4Xpower gapping you for half the price.
You can’t forget to mention how much tire technology has advanced the past couple of decades just look at the porche carrera Nurburgring time with new tires was 16 seconds quicker than with the original tires
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Also The amount of people who are telling me the g70 isnt a rebadged Kia and tryna explain it is honestly concerning. People, it is called a J O K E. Yes they share the same platform, engine and transmission, which is why i said it just like I'd say a ghost is a rebadged 7 series because it shares the same platform
4:21 you forgot one thing car brands especially German ones like porsche bmw under advertise thier cars performance so a porsche that is 550hp on paper is actually 660-700hp on dyno
I own that Hyundai Kia and I thought it was funny bro you’re good 😂 it doesn’t matter they majority own each other as companies in Korea
People have gotten so used to high speed cars in the general media that ive even found myself thinking the Countach and Miura not being that fast
THE COUNTACH
to many options and overconsumption will be put down fall in all industries 😭
i mean to be fair a lotus in opel / vauxhall clothing with a turbo 4 banger has the same 0-60.. and with some changes, could reach similar speeds..
@@chaospxl_lotus cars also arent your everyday run of the mill vehicles lol
To be fair the Countach sucks when it comes to speed. Zero traction, takes a while to get the engine up to speed (in modern days that is), takes corners like a truck and overall they are really unsafe at high speeds. Not to mention the hp loss it suffered from over the past 40+ years. So yes, the Countach really isn't that fast anymore unless we count the QV or the 25th Anniversary.
@Corvolet5 its not slow tho is what im saying
Were so used to hypercars and supercars doing 275+ its been normalized anything slower might as well be a model T
In our pursuit of speed, we ended up becoming numb to it.
And in it we also lost quite a bit of agility and feel.
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Only on paper
His writing is fire?
real good point you talk about
We've gotten used to powerful cars, and it's the same with fitness. A well-built body from 30 years ago that looked amazing in movies back then now seems ordinary because there's a large number of people who go to the gym and look great.
And with cars, besides power, there's another issue...comfort. Sports cars have become so well soundproofed that you don't even feel like you have over 500 horsepower under the hood. In the '70s Porsches and Jaguars you mentioned, you could hear every component of the car. Now, in an M5 or AMG GT, it's perfect, you even get seat massages. So sporty, right? XDD
Very true, most cars even with more power really dont seem as fast anymore
I don't think the reason movie starts from back in the day seems ordinary now is because more people work out, as much as it's almost every Hollywood actor now using some form of steroids, although the end result is much the same effect. A great example of this is to compare Pierce Brosnan's and Daniel Craig's iterations of James Bond.
In much the same vain, cars have been taking on steroids for quite a lot of years, to the point where anything with less than 300bhp is often considered 'regular traffic'.
The hyper-individualism that's so rampant in society today, where everyone thinks they have to be "the star of their own movie" in turn also leads us to try and emulate what we see on the big screen, be that increasingly fast and expensive cars or unnaturally obtainable bodies.
Steroids. 4000lbs vehicles are not sports cars.
Edit: the new m5 is 5300lbs.
@@Torkyo4ASpin Solution is ... motorcycle
I drove a 105 hp car after a 50 hp car and it felt quick, also cars with less power are smaller and more manouverable
Not to mention the possible (s)miles per gallon?
They feel faster too 😂 hearing the engine stretching it's legs to get to 50 is a sight to behold 😂
Haha same I went from a Fiat Uno (45hp) to a Honda Prelude (133hp) and I felt like I was driving a rocket ship
i went from 100 in my first to 200 in my second and hooooly shit that was quick when I got it
Same I went to a very ancient 60hp diesel minivan to a 140hp NB miot and it feels LIGHTNING fast because it has so good handling and light
In '93 I drove a 75 hp Mitsubishi, '99 a 90 hp Audi, 2002 a 103 hp Renault, 2005 a 113 hp Mitsubishi, in 2008 a 192 hp Toyota, and since 2014 a 260 hp Volvo. So yes, numbers have gone up a bit.
T6?
I see you settled down lol
old cars were designed in massive rooms. Hundreds of guys drawing up schematics on massive papers.
But now hugh hightech robot machine assemble them together like it's a food factory effortlessly
I'm fast too
fast as f boi
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@@458italiaphe gon run away when it gets hard
What's your 0-60
This reminds me of my first time in the USA, when i got to meet my brother-in-law's friends who like cars as much as I do.
I drive a 2001 64hp Volkswagen Polo 9N with the 1.9 SDI engine, which is by no means a fast vehicle, and when i described it to them they were like "64hp? My mower makes more power than that! How do you even get it out of it's own way?!"
She's a brilliant little machine, fuel efficient and absolutely bulletproof, and it's got enough power to get me to where i need to be no problem at all.
64hp may not be much at all but at least i get to always go flat-out!
Hehe, always flat-out! In my 56hp vw t4 - 2,2 tons van with tools. I'm almost as fast as semitrucks 😅
@thisvideoisgreat4289 can't beat shitboxes for smiles-per-gallon! I wouldn't trade mine for anything!
If you wanna feel the speed without being fast, get a fiat Seicento 😎
Get a 2107 instead
I got a 2CV that also works
My 70bhp Fiat Panda is scary fast at 14 seconds 0-100kph
The No. 1 underrated stat in the car world is P to W because you can have a new M5 with way more power but be slower because of the weight
Its Not really slower tho, its maybe 0.1 slower of the line, but it smokes everything in a Rolling Race and the 100-200 is faster.
@ ok fine its not a good example but my point is take a previous gen E53 a Honda CTR has a better power to weight even with 100hp less (yeah its slower only because its fwd) but ho don’t mean so much
Power to weight ratio is king, then comes aeordynamic factor which mostly determines top speed and acceleration above 130-150 kph. those 2 factors determine speed of a car, but people only talk about HP
M5 runs 0 to 60 under 3.5 seconds
M5 runs 0 to 60 under 3.5 seconds the m5 cs runs 0 to 60 under 3 seconds
1:50 is it really unbelievable? Thats 50 years of research and development to create faster cars
I remember just 10 years ago, if you had over 200hp on a normal car. It would be considered as a fast car. Then came the hybrids, VW GTE Golf with over 220hp is actually NUTS when most normal golfs had under 140hp. I had an Audi TT 2016 a couple years ago. I loved it, 230hp stock on a light car like that was a dream to drive. It was fast at the time, but with a 0-100 km/h time at just 6 seconds is pretty lackluster nowadays. Especially with electric cars. My Tesla model Y has OVER 400HP. It's completely insane that this many HP is accessible for most people now. BUT, the power is boring. There is no life to the power it so i stopped caring about it. But the point stands, when a normal family SUV had between 180-220hp not long ago and now it's more then doubled... I love the development but it's pretty crazy when most high powered cars earlier were mostly for enthusiasts and people who KNEW how to drive it.
I feel like making slow cars drive fast is more fun than making fast cars go fast.
100% man being able to rev out a car properly is way more fun
Companies have managed to sell HP and 0-60 numbers as either the fun factor or prestige factor in modern cars.
You cant really sell "this car is 20% more fun to drive then the previous one" and sadly many people fall for it.
The only upside: it leads to funny situations where a "performance SUV" gets toasted by a 2 decade old hot hatch on a few turns.
I think the biggest part of this power creep is that the car industry was always set on making new iterations of every model, like VW with the golf and when people upgrade to a newer model they expect every part of the newer model to be better, including the power of it. So over time with more and more newer models coming out, the power just crept up further and further even if not necessary. If the car industry would be more focused on releasing a completely new car every time, I dont think this would be a thing now, considering they can just call it something else and thereby not have people looking at it as an upgrade but as something entirely new.
I don't know why family cars with 7 seats still need 400+ HP
Right?! It's a goddamn SUV, a literal brick on wheels. Why does it need to be fast?!
Because it’s awesome
To quote a clever lyricist whose name l will leave out, "lt's money that matters......in the USA." Much like sex, horsepower sells.
To scare the family as heck
I would rather have a fun car that's a bit slower than a chinese temu 1500hp electric car
Yeah I don’t think that the chinese car would be very safe in a car crash
NPC opinion and cope
@@strictlylethal hating on actually good opinions 🥱🥱🥱
@@azurite6421There ain't such thing as good or bad opinion. Opinion is not smth that can be rated
@@strictlylethalOnly NPCs drive appliances on wheels
To put some things in perspective, gt3 cars only make around 550hp, lmp1 cars (with hybrid and thats half the power) makes around 987hp, just 154hp more then that Mercedes and with how hybrid works it is not always utilised so you have somewhere around 493,hp, thats your average car nowadays. (I got the numbers in official toyota website by adding up engine and hybrid motor power)
I'll do you one better:
Why are cars becoming so DAMN BRIGHT!!!??? [And LEGALLY too]
Like how am I going to be in trouble if I was going to have 1 partially burnt/ almost gone light bulb randomly/ inconveniently out on the highway or slightly darken the tint of my car to protect my eyes (especially at night from big pick up trucks with super bright stock LED lights), but then at the same time the government decided it's completely fine for these new pick up trucks to have standard factory lights being brighter than most other car's high beams, & then their high beams being a literal permanent flashbang on the road along with standard super dark tinted windows???
The older i get, the more i realize the HP isnt everything. Corners are it, weight and just enough power, but how much? Just what you want.
To me even 70bhp is too much sometimes
@@GewelReal if 70 horses is too much for you, bicycles are the answer for you
It's funny watching those old top gear episodes with insane 600hp cars and them summing up by saying its too much and undriveable. Just look at the F1, OG Zonda and the koenigsegg the stig crashed. Now 600 is considered standard.
honestly 600 being "standard" is kinda bad with videos of GTRs gapping the best bikes out there encouraging broccoli heads who drive crossfaded to upgrade their car to levels they cant handle and then ~300hp (which is still a lot depending on the car) becomes frowned upon, giving unrealistic expectations and standards
Cars got significantly safer rides since the 90s. Nowadays a BMW M5 CS is safer to drive than a base model Diablo, despite being vastly different in power.
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Im just happy to know my 01’ E55 AMG is packing V8 350hp and a 0-60 in 5 seconds, and even though thats seen as “normal traffic” numbers, it being lighter and being naturally aspirated. Knowing that during it’s prime days, it was seen as a decently powerful sports car. Now it’s seen more as a gt cruiser car.
The E Class was never going to be a sports car. Too heavy and not tuned for a track.
Even the CLK was the same. A fabulous GT but not a sports car.
The answer is bragging rights, no one needs that much power no matter how you try to justify yourself
So that's why I'm being seeing so many cars just speed through my Civic 2015, my car literally can't keep up with them even though they to the red line 2 sec before me.
A lotta unsuspecting people have dealt with this, me included. Though I got smoked by an SUV that pushed 1200 horsepower and was built, bit different but quite embarrassing 🤣
@Torkyo4ASpin Hurry up and wait. But thankfully my S gear still work so I can still catch up when entering the highway. Especially the one that go up hill. I will keep driving the civic until the end of time. I trust mine car more than any other car.
Imagine what would happen if you inadvertedly press down on the gas pedal more than you should while parking one of these hp monsters in a parking lot or while cruising around in a urban area with a lot of traffic or simply driving up a steep ramp on a building, and your vehicle safety system fails to adjust your command in that instance…
Well, unless you are driving a 650 hp ev or you’re VERY slow, nothing, ice engine response is not instantaneous, especially in turbocharged engines which represent most of the vehicles, at least in Europe, so if you accidentally press the gas pedal more than you should for a split second the turbine will start spinning faster but you will not receive the power boost unless you’re so slow that you don’t even realize what you’re doing and you keep the foot on the gas. Also, the pedal response is not linear, it looks more like an exponential curve so pressing the pedal a bit more will not make a big difference. In order to get a significant power boost, you have to press the pedal a lot and for a bit longer than just an accidental “stomp”.
I personally daily drive a 340 hp car and it’s impossible to end up in a crash starting from a situation like the one you describe
@ I wouldn’t go that far in the motor power.. I would argue that in a plugin hybrid car and EV with more than 400 hp my example would still stand if the car system would fail to adapt the driver gas pedal input to one of that driving situations
@@marcolattuada5125yeah I drive a 370 hp M2 and it’s no more difficult or frankly different than my 155 hp Mazda lol in fact the 500 hp M4 I drove needed more throttle to move than both.
You're saying that as if pressing accelerator pedal too much in a parking lot even in a 50bhp car won't cause a crash
@@GewelReal I didn’t say otherwise, I merely said to imagine the impact in a 400+ hp car would cause in those situations
I'm gonna say one thing about going the speed limit. At most, you're using 30-40 hp when going constant highway speed.
Average 700-1000HP Family Electric Sedan:
Hold my electrons.
That is why the Miata or GT86 are loved by their owners and dunked by their haters
People like to compare those to something like a Camry, even though is the latter one has grown in so much power compared to older models
Its good that normal cars are fast because it forces sports car manufacturers to actually differentiate in other ways. They have to focus on how the car feels. We now know power isnt everything
talk about how we need more analog inside car interiors 😭 Lexus was one of the few who had the no screen options and I see they’re new ones are adding less effort. I see it in the gauge it’s not the LFA inspired one anymore in some newer models 😅
cars are really suffering from live service videogame style power creep
I know you mentioned the CX-5 having 250hp, but its really an outlier. I have one, but in Australia where the CX-5 is wildly popular and is basically everywhere, no one has the 2.5L turbo trim, so while the options FOR cars are getting more powerful, the CX-5's number is definitely an outlier since I barely see that trim spec.
I know the statistics may be different in America or Europe, but in Australia we have A LOT of them and not many have the 2.5L turbo.
Also, I would like to point out that some economy cars which had V6's as a fun, spicy option have been dropped due to regulation and there fun amounts of power, and it kind of has me devastated.
Really? Where I live thats pretty much the go to trim, because its so much smoother and more powerful. Thats pretty interesting
Yeah my family had a turbo and it’s a night and day difference from the NA. Like an economy car vs an entry level sports SUV.
@@Torkyo4ASpinin australia only the GT SP and Akera trims have it as an upgrade, and not many of them are out on the road.
Unlike Oz, where the speed limits are strictly and fairly enforced, in most of the US, the speed limits are taken by most drivers as advisory and commonly ignored. There are rare exceptions like school zones and known speed traps, but in most cases, people here in the US of lgnorania ignore the speed limits.
Didnt expect the G900 to be THAT powerful. Thought you'd say 1,000 horsepower but damn I was wrong.
Cars are becoming so powerful now and I love it.
the cybertruck is as deadly as that suv both being massive heavey bricks
And here we are in Europe where the most popular cars are stuff like Pandas and Fiestas with barely 100bhp or more. Truth is, most cars are still between around 80-150bhp since any less it will lack power on highways, and any more its fuel consumption will suffer escpecially urban fuel consumption, and also beyond the price reach of many that simply want something to go places.
I have a BMW E46 330 Ci. Its 3 liter 6 cylinder engine produces 230 HP, which is enough for any situation. Even better, if you'll try to drag race the car, you wanna have good tires, cause to my surprise even such "small" amount of power can easily make the rear lose traction and now you're making a slow start with burnout. My father owns a VW Golf Sportsvan with 1.4 TSI petrol engine, which produces around 125-150 HP (not quite sure the exact modification of the engine). Again, its performance is absolutely adequate for any situation on the road. The only performance issue it has, its 7 speed robotic gearbox - it can be very slow in normal mode. In sports mode it works good.
I have a feeling that if governments would come up with actually good eco-standards and manufactures wouldn't start the war of who makes the largest SUV, maybe car emissions wouldn't become such huge problem. By "good eco-standards", I mean the ones that encourage car companies to build normal sized lighter vehicles. One of the reasons why all of them produce SUVs today, is because its actually easier to pass emission testing for a bigger car then for a small one, which is just crazy.
@@ReasonX3 I have a 2019 Mercedes Benz e class 220d with only an humble 197 hp (humble in today’s standards) that I bought last year and I think is more than enough for my daily needs. I never felt slow on the road. I still own my first car a 1.2 eco flex opel corsa d from 2011 with only 84 hp and I still think it is good enough if you shift it correctly although the car structure gets turbulent when it gets past the 120km/h speeds and the car is not very economical in its petrol consumption hence why I bought the diesel Mercedes
Regular people have faster cars than ever, but yet they still merge the highway at 55kmph. My anger while I drive my 170hp lazy diesel is immeasurable.
Who thinks 0-60 in 5 seconds is normal? Damn i feel like thats very quick
It's fast in a vacuum, but in modern times it's extremely standard. A 400 cc motorcycle has been doing that since the 2000s.
Power to weight is forever the key
Countless videos of 700+ bmws and GTR's getting walked by a mini thats got half the horsepower, and weight
Plus you can still use the full engine on an open road
People often ignore how much have tyre and suspension (and brake) tech advanced and how much it has meant for cornering and accelerarion, even for top speed. We don't even have to go that far back; the Veyron's tyres would last just a few minutes going 400 kph, and now we have a Chiron comfy at 489 kph, just some years later.
And of course, electronics. Today you can make a 2 ton toaster go faster 0-60 than the fastest supercars of the 90's, and that's mad.
People don't understand that they don't need a million hp to go to work and get the groceries. A 100hp (and less) will get you anywhere and it's even more than enough to get yourself killed. Modern driving aids have turned the general public numb and ignorant to what a fast car means. This way we have things happen like with the F40's and Carrera GT's, 'not that powerful' by today's standards, but way more difficult and delicate to drive than a 1500hp Bugatti because they lack a few electrinic aids.
I do worry though because the power will continue going up with electric cars. I dont worry about the power, I worry about who's hands that power is about to fall into
@Torkyo4ASpin in the hands of people who don't even know what means their car to be FWD/RWD/AWD (know a few of them)...
Jaguar: copy nothing.
Also Jaguar making a car that looks suspiciously familiar when conpared to that chinese G900 🤔
lol yeah it does
@@Torkyo4ASpin it looks like a gay rolls royce spectre lol
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@@Carnana_YT yh it does, althouh I'm not sure if it's gay… still pretty ugly
2:33 ths part got me dying lol
Gearing, vvt, better turbo tuning, and fuel injection. Thats what ill chock it up to
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Dude awesome work, there's soo much positive energy in your videos! nice job👌🏻
Appreciate that a lot man thank you :)
I think a huge part of it isn’t necessarily that they’re just more powerful, I think it’s just as much or even more so how the cars put the power to the road with awd and stability control etc yeah they have more power but they’re heavier than the old cars too
Bruv I just watched all of your videos and subscribed to your channel your hilarious 😂 keep up good work 👍
3:15 This phenomenon is known as “circling the drain”
"Why so serious" ahh thumbnail 💀🙏💯
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"why you come fast?"
Back when technology wasn’t so advanced, you can feel every bit of the old sports cars’ personality and charisma. Moreover, back then supercar makers focused more on top speed rather than acceleration. 400HP back then always meant 186MPH+ ( 300KM/H+ )
Nowadays, many sports cars have assists, comfort, short gear ratio, which makes mastering and taming them no longer a challenge, as well as the loss of characters.
And it all started with the GTR R35 2007
Engines don't have to work harder, they are allowed to flex the use of their power
a fun driving experience with some speed is the way to go not HP which many are obsessed with now a days
sort of like the top gear guy said with the LFA
lfa is a fraking 550hp supercar. what you should be using as an example if the golf mk1 or an mx5
@@GraveUypo I tried using it as an example on how people love to say it’s slow by todays standard and back than people were like “well for the same price I can buy this car that has more HP” and the top gear guy said the car is just a diff driving experience compared to the comp. not sure if that made sense
If you consider though, I'm sure guys in the 50's were saying this about new cars compared to the racecars/ sportscars of the 20's or 30's
I always say if you live where it’s dense you don’t need more then 350 HP
This is what happens as things improve over time. Nothing surprising.
Like the avg person has never even experienced over 250hp lmao but many people will tell you anything under that is “slow” which is crazy to me 😭
We miss the era when people spend millions to their cars to go 300kmh and feels so proud,
Congrats on 10K 🎉
Thank you my friend truly!!
Hyundai Elantra N or N-line is a rocket when you drive it correctly,i could do 80 in about 6 seconds,but im staying in the power band because of the paddle shifters,i just need the brakes to stop it when its time to stop 🤝🤔
Elantra N is amazing bro Hyundai's N division in general is really really good
I must be a nerd because my 370 hp f87 still feels pretty quick to me 🤷🏻♂️
Your video output speed is amazing
Doing my best to keep y'all entertained 🤣🤣
Car brands need to make reliable cars more.
Wait. They are business, of course they will keep making craphole quality to keep people buying the new ones
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The speed record on autobahn was broken like 90 years ago...
Modern cars are sure fast at the same time they have started getting boring and less lively. Reason why I agree old is good.
Engineers are obsessed with pushing the limits, they are speedrunners
I dream of driving a powerful car, but for now I'm already having tons of fun with my 75hp shitbox haha
We live in Germany and have streets with no speed limits and are one of the biggest car countries. It's part of our culture to be fast😎
dont need more than 90hp to have fun
4:31 bro is calling a 1800kg brick "light". Where did we go so wrong with sports and supercars? I'm glad that Lotus and Caterham are still around and Mazda still continues to produce the Miata
Bro has a point...
GT-R is not light, but is relatively good in terms of performance, especially in acceleration.
@gzillfr4243 well yeah if the relation is 2.5ton blocks like the new bmw m4. Also the gtr has good acceleration because it's awds
I cant wait to drive a car with over 500hp, i wonder how it feels, so far ive been enjoying driving my slow car fast, its manual too so its exciting stuff
Love the videos, you definitely gonna make it big on UA-cam
Appreciate a lot man thank you :)
I think there's 2 simple reasons. The standard of speed is always going up hence why all cars are getting faster. 2nd reason imo is the fact that weight on cars keeps going up due to safety regulations and such, hence companies add more power to counter the weight
"About half of all listed EVs can accellerate from 0 to 60 mph in under 4.5 seconds" -InsideEVs
Electric cars' instant torque probably really helps, but I wouldn't know. I just like EVs and I hope that they're a part of the "Fast new cars" thing
Crossing the road changed now days
With great power comes…
Nothing will ever be faster than the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR Tommi Mäkinen Edition
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Uhh... Yeah... A Sienna SE minivan begs to differ.
@@HighSp33d-r3d hush now child
You dont understand
@@rielydavis1130 hey now!
@HighSp33d-r3d lmao no hate
Its a thing me an torkyo started a few vids back
I say Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR Tommi Mäkinen Edition on every video now
Hybrid horsepowers are worse than the same amount of normal horsepowers
Bruh that M5 really fell for the dollar 😂
1:58: Hey isn't that a Land Cruiser lookalike but better than the real deal?(
It also looks like a bronco
Flooring a 2013 Hilux is still fast for me
I don’t know why people like to complain so much about new cars. Cars are kinda badass today.
I dont think I complained even once here, just asked a question which i thought was interesting lol
2:40 Nahhh bro I'm dying hahaha
0 - 60mph in less than 8 seconds is pointless for a car driven on public roads.
Anything that does 0-60 in less than 5-6 seconds is overkill for everyday use IMO. Anything faster is only good for use as a trackday car.
Very Underrated channel
Back in the days small sedans weight like 1500kg and had 150hp nie they weight 1800kg gut also have over 500hp
Congrats for 10k!!1!11!1!!1
Also Banana 🍌
Thanks for the banana much appreciated bro
@@Torkyo4ASpin no problems lol
That shit actually funny the Chinese company crash out so bad they straight up 6 x the horsepower
Short answer: We like speed
speeeeed powaaaah speed and powah
Because they can and ppl will buy it, I can't find a more fitting answer
Imagine proudly owning a 6 figure supercar like a Lamborghini Gallardo. Only to see that a family saloon like a BMW M3 is keeping up with you. Or a Chinese electric SUV like the MG 4Xpower gapping you for half the price.
Sedans and SUVs nowadays: supercars? what's that?
Well when the common family car is doing 0-60 in 3.5 seconds nothing is impressive anymore
You can’t forget to mention how much tire technology has advanced the past couple of decades just look at the porche carrera Nurburgring time with new tires was 16 seconds quicker than with the original tires
Wow you have grown a lot ever since I watched your first videos
I do hope the video quality has also grown 😂
2:12 they went from making a defender clone to mimicking the jag rebrand design 😭😭😭 jetour go back bro
Good news!…Torkyo posted another video.
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