I agree. I picked up a 1982 Iceman and the thing that most impressed me was how comfortable it was to sit and play. Not sure I’d give up my les Paul’s for it but there is no denying that it’s more comfortable to play.
Hi Andy... I love watching your videos. I started watching them when I was just scrolling. Since then, you've encouraged me to pick up my guitar again!! I'm 71 yrs old and your channel has made a positive impact on my life.. so I just wanted to thank you.
You are a bad, bad man. I've always wanted an Iceman - love wild guitars in unconventional shapes, and this just looks and sounds so good. Sounds fabulous with the amp tweaks.
Iceman's are SO underrated. My ESP star is a Les Paul config (except only a volume knob and a toggle) and it's ensured I never want a Les Paul style guitar. But I for collection's sake, I'm DEFINITELY wanting an Iceman as well.
Just had a friend come record at my studio, and he brought this guitar. It sounded incredible, and we didn't use another guitar for the whole session - leads and rhythm. Fantastic!
Congratulations! You totally absolutely most definitely had some genuine stank faces going in that first sounds clip. Those are the kind of moments that make life worth living, my friend. It's always uplifting to see someone genuinely enjoying themselves.
I'm too biased with the Iceman, the new IC420 line is really great, sounds great, plays like a Champ, and I've waited 42 years for them to release another Iceman with sunburst finish (FMVLS). ❤ Totally worth the cost. Great review!
4:50 If you check those pots, you might find that only 2 pins of the three pins on each pot has been connected. If so, try shorting the middle pot pin to the outer pin that wasn't connected. That should give you a lot more range.
Nothing ugly about it. :) Glad you are enjoying it! I had my misgivings due to its provenance, but whichever factory makes these for Ibanez did a great work on this model. If I recall correctly, the slightest dirt in a corner was all I found. It could also be the shop I bought it from did a great job (and they did well), but I feel it just didn't have problems. The cheapest aspect of this Love is the plastic nut, but it's well-cut, and looks so good, fitting the aesthetics so well I won't ever change it. The flamed maple top looks so awesome in my guitar. Addictive, it is one of those instruments you do not want to stop playing. The pickups are A+++ for me-no need to switch. Any problems people have had with Super 80 pickups never occurred on my guitar. No noises, no issues, and a beguiling, beautiful tone for both positions. Definitely share your enthusiasm for this newer Iceman! I do not find it "outrageous" at all, and I feel it would not be out of place anywhere, with any sort of music. Happy Ibanez is still embracing this amazing classic from the late 80s!
When I first saw the review, I did not have my guitar nearby, but can state now that the tone pots work correctly on my model. Of course it's also a relatively easy fix/switch, but just wanted to mention it since I would have also thought the same in your place, had the tuners worked that way for me-that all IC420FM pots should be the same. It is obviously less noticeable on the topmost range, but really audible, so something is not normal with your stock pots. Apologies, and thanks for your honest and enthusiastic review.
These do have huuuge headstocks. Donald Trump HUUUGE lol. If I remember correctly he’s got the biggest headstock of all time. At least according to him
After your video on replacing the wiring, this is a prime candidate. You could always put a 550k on the neck to brighten it up. I like the bridge but you could play with caps to reduce a 500k down. Awesome looking guitar - Steve Miller used an Iceman and an Artist when they first came out. Along with the Yamaha SG range, this was when the Japanese companies were really challenging Gibson.
Subscribed, because I gotta say I really enjoyed watching this review . I won’t be buying one of these, but I have a friend who has a few Iceman’s and loves them. You really made this guitar sound great, tasteful playing more in the way people actually play and not just noodley.
First, I own an Iceman, and love it Second, i am short, and it is the most comfortable guitar out there Third, it is the coolest looking guitar out there.
SO. MUCH. YES. The "bad" stuff is pretty easily fixable, IMO. And the whole Okoume-Jatoba thing is no biggie for me as well. I own an AR325, which has the same woods and is one of the best guitars I have ever come across, so much so that a guitar tech friend of mine asked to buy it from me within 15 minutes of the first time he played it. This Iceman seems to be a lot like that AR, just with a better body shape, haha! Would love to get my hands on one some day!
Having a guitar that reacts properly or how you expected to react to the sound you're after is magic. There's nothing else, really. Feeling the guitar take all your notes and return a satisfying tone trumps all the tonewood and headstock branding discussion you can think off.
Greco made a copy of the iceman. Might have been coming from the same Factory (both being Japan) I’m not sure. There were a lot of factories in Japan churning out guitars at that time,but it was a different guitar.
I had to decide between this new Ibanez Iceman and the Squier Paranormal Troublemaker Tele (the one that looks like a Les Paul). In the end I chose the Squier which is fabulous, but this guitar looks beautiful!
Bought the IC420 ABM (gig bag included). Agree, great pickups and hardware - no concerns about alternative woods, that's for cork sniffers not players. Love it.
Had a friend who almost exclusively played the Iceman Paul Stanley signature and a JCM 900 and I can tell you, he blew everyone away with his sound. That guitar is at lower (5-7) gain on the JCM 900 an absolute beast of a mids monster and cuts through every mix. Love the sound of it, as it has that gnarly mid rock drive. The only time I heard something similar was when Morley of Thunder played on Backstreet Symphony, which is still one of the greatest Les Paul and Marshall sounds ever.
One more note about measuring pickups: measure inside the control cavity using the pickup wires rather than at the end of a cable if mean to measure the pickup rather than the pickup, the pot(s), the cap(s), and the cable.
I don't blame you Andy! They are great guitars! I also personally said they are like les pauls but better, in my opinion. I actually own two, an Iceman from the mid 1990's and a more recent (5 years maybe) PS120. Both great guitars, and for the record, I am an average or "smaller" person and still play them just fine and they are comfortable for me as well!
i want a hollow body ibanez artcore in vintage yellow sunburst sooooo bad. the iceman is cool too. im an ibanez fanboy but all i can afford is the GIO line 😂
I've liked the Iceman guitars ever since I'd seen Paul Stanley playing them, in '79 when I was only 9, but I'd come close to actually buying one only ONCE, which was a black one with cream binding, pickguard and pick-up frames and a FloydRose-type bridge - but then I moved to NZ (from Germany) 😅 That was 22 years ago 😊
I've got the blue one. Ibanez knocked it out of the park with these, they're fabulous. And additional props for keeping them (well) under 1,000 smackeroonies... Everybody thinks Paul Stanley of Kiss when they see this shape, but I think Thomas Gabriel Fischer of Hellhammer, Celtic Frost, and Triptykon 😛
I have this guitar and I VERY much love it. I did not, however, love the Super80s - I got WAY too much squeal and feedback from them at high volume (at practice), and could not get the thing to stop feeding back. I put a set of Seymour Duncan Vintage Blues 59s in it - like the Paul Stanley models - and it is much, MUCH better to me. ymmv
Like all Ibanez guitars these days, these will need a switch and pot upgrade. Personally I would swap the pickups and hardware as well...not a gold hardware fan. My PS120 also needed the pots and switch changed. But that one comes stock with Duncan PUPs. The Iceman shape is the coolest shape to ever come out of the electric guitar world.
Thanks for the review. I've always liked the Iceman design since first seeing it in music videos in the 1970s/80s. I had to have one and so picked up the lower-spece'd PS60 Iceman a couple of years back, (in Silver Sparkle because,.. why not? :-) It's a Michael Bolt-on with ceramic Infinity pickups. It scratches the itch quite well and, yes, it IS a comfortable guitar. in fact, depite its somewhat outlandish looks, it is really is quite a conventional guitar in essence.
Check out a Jackson Dominion while you still can (discontinued). Offset, rounded off non-reverse Firebird-esque with a bit of chambering. To me, it's sort of like a ES-335 meets an Explorer, feel wise. Some people say it's Jackson's Les Paul (pre-Monarkh)
I was a little 'lukewarm' over that shape interesting but probably not for me, but in that burst and with the gold and cream hardware it does look very tasty. Yes I know we should buy with our ears, but the eyes like what the eyes like, and it doesn't sound half bad either!
I dig these guitars but find they're prone to neck dive. As for the jatiba fretboard, some dye would do wonders to give it a dark rich look. Cheers Andy!!
In terms of arguing over tone wood on electric guitars: Les Paul himself said something to the effect of, "I want to hear the strings, not the wood" when he was designing his original "Log". Acoustic guitars, yes tone wood matters. Electric guitars, as long as it's strong enough to handle the string tension and can handle tear and tear, it's not that important.
the most underused amazing guitardesign. got an old junky 90s destroyer i stripped the finish of. all plywood underneath. still great. would be cool for gibson to revenge copy the iceman and put their own headstock on… but they are too busy getting that mesa digital modeller out to market for you to rave about…
The jack location is good because it won't touch the couch. The guitar is good, wood choice is not bad, but I still prefer mahogany. Maybe those pickups are better than a Benton Les paul. But really there is nothing special about this guitar.
Feels like they put all the pots as audio tapers, which is in my opinion not that ideal. If I got this specific guitar I would personally swap them immediately for linear taper pots as that feels more controllable to me. I patiently await my Greco GM from Japan to satisfy my Iceman dreams!
Katanas sound way better with the master volume turned up all the way to get the overdriven tube sound. Control your volume with the pre amp volume next to the gain knob and the master full blast. It sounds a lot better that way.
Had an Iceman IC200 back in the 90's - a great guitar even if it did have a bolt-on neck. Ibanez claim the 420 has a maple top but I'd expect it to be just a veneer at this price. Can you confirm if it's an actual top or not?
I've always loved the Iceman shape, but the fretboard has a reddish hue that really turns me off. Rosewood would have been killer, but I would have settled for laurel. Anything but that reddish brown wood.
I have two different guitar techs in two different cities. one of them is very well known. they both say the same thing about Ibanez when I bring one to them saying I have a problem. What they both say is: Well, it's an Ibanez. Their known for problems at different price points...
@TheGuitarGeek taking money from me? As in ripping me off? Not hardly. They have pleked my '74 Gibson LP Custom for me, for free, that's the most recent freebie. I've been with them for 25+ yrs. The ibanez issues, let's see, somewhere around 1989 or 90 I received, brand new, a LP copy, the nut slot on the B string was cut way to deep, sounded like a sitar. Instead of filling it in with baking soda and super glue, I had another nut msde and installed. Problem solved. Fast forward some years and I received a brand new ibanez SG copy. I was gonna gift it to my contractors helper as a tip. Right out of the box, from Indonesia, the stoptail bridge screw bushing is being pulled from the wood it's seated in. A fairly easy fix, but I'd seen enough from them. Gotta admit though, the ibanez jem 777dy has me intrigued, but it just will not work for my band.
These are really competitive with the Epiphones around that $7-800 price point, especially if you're concerned about weight, but the faulty pots and ceramic pickups at this price point are a little disappointing imo.
I always preferred the Destroyer over the Iceman. The Destroyer is just a much better looking guitar, and I wish that Ibanez would make them again. But saying that, I'd love that Iceman as well.
I really like the body shape and I would put it on my list. There are two things that I don't like. For that price in 2024, it should have a coil splitting tone pot. The other thing is that pointy head stock nearly got me in the eye when you turned around and I live in the colonies.
Owning an Ibaneze and played some, well made guitars. But the same as on Yamaha and Cort and so on them settings are more mud less mud boring ones size fits all not to upset anyone not as to thrill either but it can be fixed.
This should have been a part of the Genesis series; made in Japan and upgraded with nicer electronics and Gotoh tuners (preferably with those funky tuning buttons). More finish options would also have been nice. I'd put all my savings into buying this if was Candy Apple Red with gold hardware. A cherry burst would also have been a nice option
Is the Iceman 420's design a hit or too out there for your taste?
@@TheGuitarGeek I actually think it’s a pretty classy design!
Does it come in lefty
I play vees , so I dig it.
It's not my style but, if others like it that's cool. It kinda sucks that they didn't use more variable pots.
I like it alot but it has a penis and I Cant un-see it now.
The joy on your face near the start is really fun to see.
I’m just past the intro, but had to post, because I am already grinning.
I agree. I picked up a 1982 Iceman and the thing that most impressed me was how comfortable it was to sit and play. Not sure I’d give up my les Paul’s for it but there is no denying that it’s more comfortable to play.
Hi Andy... I love watching your videos. I started watching them when I was just scrolling. Since then, you've encouraged me to pick up my guitar again!! I'm 71 yrs old and your channel has made a positive impact on my life.. so I just wanted to thank you.
I love this channel. You can see how excited Andy is to get this guitar. You can't fake that..Not my guitar jam but it is cool..
thank you
The horn looks a bit inappropriate in your lap. 😂 There I ruined it.
It was very distracting .
Yeah. Someone already said it. The iceman cometh. (Sorry. It was right there waiting to be said in this context.)
Well, i like the guitar but not THAT much
😂
You can’t unsee it can you?
You are a bad, bad man. I've always wanted an Iceman - love wild guitars in unconventional shapes, and this just looks and sounds so good. Sounds fabulous with the amp tweaks.
You know what to do...
Iceman's are SO underrated. My ESP star is a Les Paul config (except only a volume knob and a toggle) and it's ensured I never want a Les Paul style guitar. But I for collection's sake, I'm DEFINITELY wanting an Iceman as well.
Utterly bonkers yet totally beautiful! I want it in blue
Just had a friend come record at my studio, and he brought this guitar. It sounded incredible, and we didn't use another guitar for the whole session - leads and rhythm. Fantastic!
Great review Andy, really enjoyed you enjoying it.
Congratulations! You totally absolutely most definitely had some genuine stank faces going in that first sounds clip. Those are the kind of moments that make life worth living, my friend. It's always uplifting to see someone genuinely enjoying themselves.
Oh it was glorious. The victory sheriff 25 is a wonderful amp but it needs to be paired with something rocking
I'm too biased with the Iceman, the new IC420 line is really great, sounds great, plays like a Champ, and I've waited 42 years for them to release another Iceman with sunburst finish (FMVLS). ❤
Totally worth the cost. Great review!
I got the PS120. Put Gotoh locking tuners on, Tusq nut, changed the pots and its stunning. So much more comfortable than my Les Paul
I really enjoy your reviews. Loads of fun. Thanks for what you do, man.
I loved your AA Bottom and Firearms N' Flowers riffs
What are those?
@@TheGuitarGeek ZZ Top and Guns N' Roses
4:50 If you check those pots, you might find that only 2 pins of the three pins on each pot has been connected. If so, try shorting the middle pot pin to the outer pin that wasn't connected. That should give you a lot more range.
Thats not how it works. Search audio and linear taper. It has to do with the sweep of the resistance.
Only halfway through the video, but I already dig it and have the guitar open in another tab... that's a great price for a pretty unique instrument.
I've been trying to decide if I really want one for months now. Thank you, Andy. I'll be getting one fairly soon. You're a good influence. 😄
Nothing ugly about it. :) Glad you are enjoying it!
I had my misgivings due to its provenance, but whichever factory makes these for Ibanez did a great work on this model. If I recall correctly, the slightest dirt in a corner was all I found. It could also be the shop I bought it from did a great job (and they did well), but I feel it just didn't have problems.
The cheapest aspect of this Love is the plastic nut, but it's well-cut, and looks so good, fitting the aesthetics so well I won't ever change it.
The flamed maple top looks so awesome in my guitar. Addictive, it is one of those instruments you do not want to stop playing.
The pickups are A+++ for me-no need to switch. Any problems people have had with Super 80 pickups never occurred on my guitar. No noises, no issues, and a beguiling, beautiful tone for both positions.
Definitely share your enthusiasm for this newer Iceman! I do not find it "outrageous" at all, and I feel it would not be out of place anywhere, with any sort of music. Happy Ibanez is still embracing this amazing classic from the late 80s!
When I first saw the review, I did not have my guitar nearby, but can state now that the tone pots work correctly on my model. Of course it's also a relatively easy fix/switch, but just wanted to mention it since I would have also thought the same in your place, had the tuners worked that way for me-that all IC420FM pots should be the same. It is obviously less noticeable on the topmost range, but really audible, so something is not normal with your stock pots.
Apologies, and thanks for your honest and enthusiastic review.
Extra points for playing 'The Darkness' Andy! Rock on cheery boy!🤘😝🤘
Thank you, hard not to smile when playing this
I’m almost 6’1 at 15 and I love playing an iceman. I don’t hey own one but I will sometime. I have however tried one at a guitar store.
These do have huuuge headstocks. Donald Trump HUUUGE lol. If I remember correctly he’s got the biggest headstock of all time. At least according to him
Love these guitars! Awesome look and they just sound really good. Awesome review as always.
After your video on replacing the wiring, this is a prime candidate. You could always put a 550k on the neck to brighten it up. I like the bridge but you could play with caps to reduce a 500k down.
Awesome looking guitar - Steve Miller used an Iceman and an Artist when they first came out. Along with the Yamaha SG range, this was when the Japanese companies were really challenging Gibson.
Subscribed, because I gotta say I really enjoyed watching this review . I won’t be buying one of these, but I have a friend who has a few Iceman’s and loves them. You really made this guitar sound great, tasteful playing more in the way people actually play and not just noodley.
The blue Iceman atracts me😂❤ thanks for the Video.
First, I own an Iceman, and love it
Second, i am short, and it is the most comfortable guitar out there
Third, it is the coolest looking guitar out there.
we are 2 out of 3 the same
SO. MUCH. YES. The "bad" stuff is pretty easily fixable, IMO. And the whole Okoume-Jatoba thing is no biggie for me as well. I own an AR325, which has the same woods and is one of the best guitars I have ever come across, so much so that a guitar tech friend of mine asked to buy it from me within 15 minutes of the first time he played it. This Iceman seems to be a lot like that AR, just with a better body shape, haha! Would love to get my hands on one some day!
13:30 That's a very impressive screenshot..
Tried one of these recently and it was superb
That guitar looks good on you - And I think you got the best looking guitar
Thank you!
Having a guitar that reacts properly or how you expected to react to the sound you're after is magic. There's nothing else, really. Feeling the guitar take all your notes and return a satisfying tone trumps all the tonewood and headstock branding discussion you can think off.
Rick Nielsen played one at the Budokan in 78. Back then I think they were called Greco.
Greco made a copy of the iceman. Might have been coming from the same
Factory (both being Japan) I’m not sure. There were a lot of factories in Japan churning out guitars at that time,but it was a different guitar.
Sooooo much cooler than an Epiphone.
The Iceman cometh!!
The Ibanez SZ series is a Les Paul killer Too! ;) Same Wood Mahagony body with maple top
@@CrazyGuitarGuy I didn't know the Iceman existed with that configuration.
I had to decide between this new Ibanez Iceman and the Squier Paranormal Troublemaker Tele (the one that looks like a Les Paul).
In the end I chose the Squier which is fabulous, but this guitar looks beautiful!
Did you get the gold or black one?
I am so tempted by the gold Squier with humbuckers too !!!!
I understand your pain. We have similar tastes. The neck on this is more me than the squier though (Although that is from the squier spec sheet)
PS: 8:17 - The Darkness! Nice!
😄👍
Bought the IC420 ABM (gig bag included). Agree, great pickups and hardware - no concerns about alternative woods, that's for cork sniffers not players. Love it.
Had a friend who almost exclusively played the Iceman Paul Stanley signature and a JCM 900 and I can tell you, he blew everyone away with his sound. That guitar is at lower (5-7) gain on the JCM 900 an absolute beast of a mids monster and cuts through every mix. Love the sound of it, as it has that gnarly mid rock drive. The only time I heard something similar was when Morley of Thunder played on Backstreet Symphony, which is still one of the greatest Les Paul and Marshall sounds ever.
One more note about measuring pickups: measure inside the control cavity using the pickup wires rather than at the end of a cable if mean to measure the pickup rather than the pickup, the pot(s), the cap(s), and the cable.
I prefer the Fireman, which is inverted Iceman.
Paul Stanley ruined that shape for me tbh.
I don't blame you Andy! They are great guitars! I also personally said they are like les pauls but better, in my opinion. I actually own two, an Iceman from the mid 1990's and a more recent (5 years maybe) PS120. Both great guitars, and for the record, I am an average or "smaller" person and still play them just fine and they are comfortable for me as well!
i want a hollow body ibanez artcore in vintage yellow sunburst sooooo bad. the iceman is cool too. im an ibanez fanboy but all i can afford is the GIO line 😂
I'll always love icemans because of watching Paul Stanley play them in KISS as a kid :)
Everytime😢 go on you tube I get to see you Dan😅
I'm lucky cMan
Hell, I love this thing 😍
I've liked the Iceman guitars ever since I'd seen Paul Stanley playing them, in '79 when I was only 9, but I'd come close to actually buying one only ONCE, which was a black one with cream binding, pickguard and pick-up frames and a FloydRose-type bridge - but then I moved to NZ (from Germany) 😅
That was 22 years ago 😊
I've got the blue one. Ibanez knocked it out of the park with these, they're fabulous. And additional props for keeping them (well) under 1,000 smackeroonies...
Everybody thinks Paul Stanley of Kiss when they see this shape, but I think Thomas Gabriel Fischer of Hellhammer, Celtic Frost, and Triptykon 😛
I think of Andy Ferris, future iceman signature artist 😂
I have this guitar and I VERY much love it. I did not, however, love the Super80s - I got WAY too much squeal and feedback from them at high volume (at practice), and could not get the thing to stop feeding back. I put a set of Seymour Duncan Vintage Blues 59s in it - like the Paul Stanley models - and it is much, MUCH better to me. ymmv
Like all Ibanez guitars these days, these will need a switch and pot upgrade. Personally I would swap the pickups and hardware as well...not a gold hardware fan. My PS120 also needed the pots and switch changed. But that one comes stock with Duncan PUPs. The Iceman shape is the coolest shape to ever come out of the electric guitar world.
Thanks for the review. I've always liked the Iceman design since first seeing it in music videos in the 1970s/80s. I had to have one and so picked up the lower-spece'd PS60 Iceman a couple of years back, (in Silver Sparkle because,.. why not? :-) It's a Michael Bolt-on with ceramic Infinity pickups. It scratches the itch quite well and, yes, it IS a comfortable guitar. in fact, depite its somewhat outlandish looks, it is really is quite a conventional guitar in essence.
What were you playing g around the 5:50 mark? Sounds really nice!
Check out a Jackson Dominion while you still can (discontinued). Offset, rounded off non-reverse Firebird-esque with a bit of chambering. To me, it's sort of like a ES-335 meets an Explorer, feel wise. Some people say it's Jackson's Les Paul (pre-Monarkh)
I was a little 'lukewarm' over that shape interesting but probably not for me, but in that burst and with the gold and cream hardware it does look very tasty. Yes I know we should buy with our ears, but the eyes like what the eyes like, and it doesn't sound half bad either!
and hey you forgot to mention (and to show to us) that this guitar comes with a guitar case.... :) :)
I did forget this... MY BAD!
I can see that! I like it
Prefer Paul Gilbert’s version because it has a rare beefy neck for an Ibanez
saw the Iceman Iron Label played a couple weeks ago, absolutely sick, after I get back from FTA I'm gonna pick one up.
Shoutout to GunderSlam.
Im a bassist but I too want a Iceman😅
Id really like the cracked mirror model Paul Stanley had.
I think the Hagstrom Fantomen guitar is very similar
I've been wanting an Iceman since the 90's and this one seems to tick most boxes for me.
The Pauls (Gilbert and Stanley) always took these over the Les.
Cool guitar. Wouldn’t ditch a good Les Paul for it, but wouldn’t mind having one.
Changing pots is easy enough, but not ideal!
(I always put a volume pot in my guitar anyway.[I order the superpot with the guitar!])
Upgrading the pots for better taper would be a pretty cheap improvement.
I dig these guitars but find they're prone to neck dive. As for the jatiba fretboard, some dye would do wonders to give it a dark rich look. Cheers Andy!!
Strap button needs to be on the neck heel to prevent dive.
If you liked this guitar, have you checked out the Ibanez PS10, PS120, or PS60?
great guitar- U have the ps10 with the semour duncan 59 neck custom 5 bridge- great pickups that take the guitar to next level.
In terms of arguing over tone wood on electric guitars: Les Paul himself said something to the effect of, "I want to hear the strings, not the wood" when he was designing his original "Log".
Acoustic guitars, yes tone wood matters. Electric guitars, as long as it's strong enough to handle the string tension and can handle tear and tear, it's not that important.
@@joermnyc tonewood in acoustic guitars is also a fallacy.
the most underused amazing guitardesign. got an old junky 90s destroyer i stripped the finish of. all plywood underneath. still great. would be cool for gibson to revenge copy the iceman and put their own headstock on… but they are too busy getting that mesa digital modeller out to market for you to rave about…
The jack location is good because it won't touch the couch. The guitar is good, wood choice is not bad, but I still prefer mahogany. Maybe those pickups are better than a Benton Les paul. But really there is nothing special about this guitar.
with an arm carve i would buy it now
Butter 🧈 butter 🧈 butter
Cool geetar-nice price. No Noir? :(
Feels like they put all the pots as audio tapers, which is in my opinion not that ideal. If I got this specific guitar I would personally swap them immediately for linear taper pots as that feels more controllable to me. I patiently await my Greco GM from Japan to satisfy my Iceman dreams!
Stop. You had me at 420.
I’m surprised more people didn’t notice this 😂
Has Ibanez ever tried a carve top on one of these?
How i admired those in the 80s. Had all the Ibanez brochures as a teenager. No use for it now, not my style of music/image.
I like it but it needs montepresso to make the jotoba look better. It needs a new wiring harness and I think better pickups. Then it’ll be awesome.
Oh, try a Ibanez firebird iff you can get one? ♨️
I definitely don't have to tell you but medium output HBs are quite height sensitive. Might possibly solve the dark tone.
I like the green one,but I would change the potentiometers. I like the shape of this guitar.
Those Troublemakers are nice, indeed
Katanas sound way better with the master volume turned up all the way to get the overdriven tube sound. Control your volume with the pre amp volume next to the gain knob and the master full blast. It sounds a lot better that way.
It would be even better with mini humbuckers.
Had an Iceman IC200 back in the 90's - a great guitar even if it did have a bolt-on neck.
Ibanez claim the 420 has a maple top but I'd expect it to be just a veneer at this price. Can you confirm if it's an actual top or not?
I've always loved the Iceman shape, but the fretboard has a reddish hue that really turns me off. Rosewood would have been killer, but I would have settled for laurel. Anything but that reddish brown wood.
I have two different guitar techs in two different cities. one of them is very well known. they both say the same thing about Ibanez when I bring one to them saying I have a problem. What they both say is: Well, it's an Ibanez. Their known for problems at different price points...
Sounds like these guys are taking money from you.
What are these issues you describe?
@TheGuitarGeek taking money from me? As in ripping me off? Not hardly. They have pleked my '74 Gibson LP Custom for me, for free, that's the most recent freebie. I've been with them for 25+ yrs. The ibanez issues, let's see, somewhere around 1989 or 90 I received, brand new, a LP copy, the nut slot on the B string was cut way to deep, sounded like a sitar. Instead of filling it in with baking soda and super glue, I had another nut msde and installed. Problem solved. Fast forward some years and I received a brand new ibanez SG copy. I was gonna gift it to my contractors helper as a tip. Right out of the box, from Indonesia, the stoptail bridge screw bushing is being pulled from the wood it's seated in. A fairly easy fix, but I'd seen enough from them. Gotta admit though, the ibanez jem 777dy has me intrigued, but it just will not work for my band.
These are really competitive with the Epiphones around that $7-800 price point, especially if you're concerned about weight, but the faulty pots and ceramic pickups at this price point are a little disappointing imo.
I always preferred the Destroyer over the Iceman. The Destroyer is just a much better looking guitar, and I wish that Ibanez would make them again. But saying that, I'd love that Iceman as well.
Paid to say he ditches LP which he now secretly plays at home and knows he loves it more.
Nope. I now own zero Les Pauls thanks to this. Still got the SG and love it but the LP had to go.
I really like the body shape and I would put it on my list. There are two things that I don't like. For that price in 2024, it should have a coil splitting tone pot. The other thing is that pointy head stock nearly got me in the eye when you turned around and I live in the colonies.
Owning an Ibaneze and played some, well made guitars. But the same as on Yamaha and Cort and so on them settings are more mud less mud boring ones size fits all not to upset anyone not as to thrill either but it can be fixed.
This should have been a part of the Genesis series; made in Japan and upgraded with nicer electronics and Gotoh tuners (preferably with those funky tuning buttons).
More finish options would also have been nice. I'd put all my savings into buying this if was Candy Apple Red with gold hardware. A cherry burst would also have been a nice option
I think that is a logical next step. Gold top would be great to see
I think its fetching looking!
I was very surprised to see that it was made in China. Asia, I expected, but not China.
LOve the Iceman model, but I really dislike guitars with the input jack on the front.
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Yep. Messy and you will scratch the front of the guitar.
Sounds like it would be awesome for stoner rock
Mine came with a gig bag....
I almost want one but it looks like it's got a big Richard hanging off it it's not so suggestive on the fireman