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Macan Brake Replacement (Front)
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- Опубліковано 22 гру 2019
- This video shows how I replaced my 2018 Macan GTS front brake rotors and pads. Rear brake job video can be accessed here: • Macan Brake Replacemen...
Now I have complete confidence in doing my own..thanks man!
I am glad it helped!
thanks for the video. Here im shoping around what SUV to get, i like these Macans, so just watching videos on some maintenance stuff since i do my own. Pretty much the normal brake pad replacement.
Excellent video.
Absolutely just as normal. Parts are a little bit more expensive than usual cars but that’s expected for all cars like this with relatively low volume.
Great thanks. I can use this now to change my breaks on my Porsche Cayenne S
Great job with the box to hold the caliper in the front. I am using ceramic pads i am tired of all the dust. I have turbo wheels and not the black ones so the dust shows .
Thanks for the video, I just did mine tonight 😁 let's see if I'm brave enough to tackle the rears now!
@Mic . Do you have a link where to order the parts? Let me know . Thank you!
@@elainepacquing1352 I ordered mine from a company called fcp euro. I don't have the link but if you go on their site and put in your vehicle info, they'll pop up 😊
Great video, thank you. I just changed my front pads. Easy job. Maybe Porsche recommends it but changing rotors at just 35k miles is excessive and not required IMHO. Changed caliper bolts though because of threading and torque, they are considered single use and should not be re-used normally, and they're not expensive either so no brainer.
Where did you order your parts?
@@POLYBEARSNM33 did you figure out where to order the parts? I have a 2017 Macan GTS. I want to change the rotor and brake pads for front and back; but I want to make sure I order the right parts. I hope to see a link to order it. If you have any info let me know. Thank you!
@@elainepacquing1352 Sorry guys just saw your question. I purchased mine from partsgeek.com. You can find similar products at rockauto, ECS tuning, and FCP euro as well. There are many placed carrying the OE quality rotors/pads with a reasonable price tag.
@@elainepacquing1352 did you find the right parts ? I have the same trim and year
Excellent video demonstration. Awaiting video on rear pad/rotor with the EPB motor recalibration if needed.
cyaindaor didn’t think anyone would be interested in the rear ones. Let me get started on that right away :)
@@luyichen11 Thanks.. looking forward.
Hi, Did you use a diagnostic tool to put the rear EPB in service mode to retract the rear brake caliper piston in order to replace rotor? If so would you mind sharing which you used or recommend? I have seen several diagnostic tools advertised i.e. Icarsoft POR II . Some videos suggest you don't need just remove EPB motor and manually adjust. Thanks in advance.
cyaindaor Yes, I did. Using a diagnostic tool will make the work much easier. Just need to retract the EPB motor before disassemble. I have read others taking the motors off by open a sealed assembly, which I don’t think it’s a good idea. In terms of the tools, I borrowed one from a friend. Autel MaxiCOM MK808. Just did a search on google it costs about $400. www.jbtools.com/autel-mx808-maxicheck-all-system-service-diagnostic-tablet-usa-version/?gclid=CjwKCAjw7LX0BRBiEiwA__gNw-XIgqBgNYynCpLck99dFe-oZ54g_KpXUGHjDbMdvPLXoJtrWnJl_BoCihIQAvD_BwE
Do I adjust the electronic brakes?
No need to if you use the tool to retract and reset
Is it possible to service the front brakes with only a jack? I do not own a quick jack. I do have a scan tool that can put the brakes in service mode but wondering if this needs to be done for the front brakes and whether or not its safe to do so without completely lifting the car off the ground. Thank you!
@@DeadheadInABed no need for the front brake and yes you can do one front at a time with just one jack. I do recommend using jack stand in addition just to be safe. In case the jack fails, the stand will still be able to catch. Typically, the jack stand should be the one with all that corners weights
Thanks for the quick reply!
When you said, the jack stand should be the one with all that corners weights, what do you mean? I have used the jack pad adapter and a floor jack to swap wheels before one at a time but have never used a jack stand as backup support. But I know the stand needs to go on the factory jack points which are located behind the removable plastic covers, correct?
Also I'm assuming that because the rear brakes need the scan tool to place the car in maintenance mode you cannot service them without the entire car being lifted?
Once again thanks for your input, your video was really helpful. I'm trying to do as much regular maintenance by myself to this car without spending a ton of money or compromising safety.
@@DeadheadInABed jack stand can hold the entire weight of that wheel/corner if correct jack stand is selected, that is typically the alternative way of lifting the whole vehicle with one jack and 4 jack stands. For me, if I use a jack just on one corner, I put the jack stand in and then lower the vehicle down on the jack stand while keeping the jack in place as double safety. Otherwise, the stand is a rigid piece and space between the arm joints or chassis, in case the jack fails, it may/ may not catch the vehicle securely on the move. That is my logic.
@@DeadheadInABed I think you can do one rear at a time. The service position is just to retract the eletric brake piston to its furthest position so you can release the pads, push the piston down. After putting the new pads in, the tool will rotate the motor so it pushes to the firm position. I have taken the electric brake motors apart and done it without using the scanner tool. But that is not recommended. Dust may get in and you need manually rotation the piston side back. Depends on the vehicle calibration, some may throw a code, some may not. BMW doesn’t I know for sure, but I have not tried on Porsche/vw/audi so I can’t say that for sure
Thanks for posting. We have a 2016 Macan S that just now showed the brake wear warning on the screen. Will do this soon. Porsche's reco of changing rotors with the pads begs the question, why the wear sensors? Everything is getting changed anyway, once you hear the scraping noise its time to change... Oh, yeah, so they can sell us $70 brake sensors, duh.
Stephen Hope thank you for commenting! There are many new vehicles equipped with brake wear sensors mainly for safety reason. Being able to diagnose the pad wear electronically and send warning to owner to display as clear infotainment message has been the trend for a while. And all vehicle status data are shared via telecommunication module back to the cloud so OEMs can use it to improve their vehicle reliability, more accurately estimate the service interval, and use the data to inventory planning. Someday, these cars will drive themselves on the road and they will have to have all types of sensors to diagnose the overall health status. Hopefully, we don’t have to pay for an outrageous amount of money for service anymore.
@@luyichen11 Thanks bro, just odd that my wife Macan S with 30k miles needs brakes but my very off- roaded 2012 FJ Cruiser still has 25% on original pads at 85K. Just wondering.
@@stephenhope7319 i have noticed that. Macan does wear off the brakes fast.
@@stephenhope7319 my wife's lexus IS200t front brakes lasted about 20k miles, just replaced them recently, not sure when they started making noise since i dont drive it much. Some girls dont notice things like that.
Great video. I have a 2016 Turbo and think of doing the brakes myself. Can you roughly tell me what all the replacement parts cost for both front and rear? Thanks!
For me it costs about $550 including shipping and tax. I compared a lot different places online such as RockAuto, Partsgeek, FCP Euro, ECS, pelican parts, etc, as well as calling dealer with automotive supplier discount. After all, I ended up with ordering discrete parts from PartsGekk instead of buying as a package(which usually has less margin for error to ensure 100% match to vehicle model). It all worked out well. Sizes all matched up perfectly and I am happy with the new rotor&pads performance.
I want to change the front brakes. Do you have to unlock the electronic system? Or "reset the brakes"?
@@ricardosanchez438 yea, using an electronic scanner tool to set the electronic brake to service position to release the pressure so you can take the pads off.
Thanks for your answer, you didnt show this part@@luyichen11
Yichen你的视频做得太棒了，非常有帮助！我的是Cayenne GTS同样的步骤，看了你的视频我也觉得可以自己来弄了。谢谢！你的刹车会时常有Squeek吗，贴别是由运动到禁止的那几秒钟。有什么好的办法消除刹车声吗？
谢谢。其实刹车换起来都大同小异。卡宴gts换法也差不多，建议自己折腾因为dealer收费实在是太高了。我刹车没有任何异响。一般这类车原厂刹车都会比较注意不太会太吵。不像一些赛道片，公路上刹车一踩就像公交车停车一样。你可以换刹车时候在pad shim后面涂一些专门的grease试试。我看了你其它视频，也没碰到过你的buzzing sound的情况。感觉可能是组装过程中dash后面哪个地方没装好导致的nvh问题。
Hi, Thank you for the good tutorial video. Do you recall what size triple square socket you use for those caliper bolts?
It was M14x135mm triple square bolt
Macan gts and macan turbo use same front brake pads?
What size triple square does the front caliber take
Thank you Mr Lu, an excellent video with clear explanations. A small query - I notice you use the old bolts. Someone else mentioned these need to be renewed whenever they are removed. It does seem a bit excessive to me, what do you think, please?
Great question. Some of the typical economy car with floating caliper type does require new brake hardware, including sliding pin nuts for every change. Those are the sliding nuts are not necessarily need to be replaced but you do need to put some blue loctite on just to make sure it doesn’t slide out. Not many people tight those back to torque per spec. In some performance fixed caliper design, the pins and bolts are reused due to frequent swap of brake pads during track days.
Nice video. Does the car need any special tools or resets to remove the brake pad warning light on the dash?
There are two parts to the brake service warning. 1st part is the mileage service which you would need a scanner that covers Porsche protocol to reset. 2nd part is the actual pad wear sensor warning which will go away after replacing with good new wear sensor(or solder the old open wire back together which is not recommended but works).
What is your feedback on the Zimmerman and those front pads compare to the Oem? Dust? Noise? Braking power? Doing my Turbo... just bought oem front brake pads (made in Japan surprisingly), didn’t change the rotors yet... So what is your input? Thank you for the video.
Fab24hdumans About the same. The OE rotors are inside surface slotted. So do the Zimmerman rotors. Braking power is about the same. Noise and dust are more pads related I think. I used Textar pads, same semi-metallic material, so everything is about the same. My OE pads are made by a Japanese supplier Akebono.
Did you replace the front brake caliper bolts with new ones? I read on a eguide site that the bolts need to be replaced because “The front brake caliper bolts are “yield-to-torque” bolts that are designed to stretch; they can only be used once.” I did not purchase new bolts. Can I just apply some thread locker?
No I did not. Using thread locker should be fine
Great Video, How many inches is the Irwin clap you using 12", 24", 6"????
12” should be good
What pad material did you select. I see that it is possible to use either ceramic or metal composite on iron rotors. Is there a preference?
Thank you.
Metal composite has better braking power but more dust. Regular ceramic is quieter and last longer with less dust but usually has less braking power. I personally prefer to have better braking power so metal composite or semi-metallic type would be my top choice. It is also what the OEM brake pads are. Porsche also has Carbon Ceramic brake rotors and surface coated brake systems, but those are $$$$$ level of replacement, not very usual to see on their cars under $150k.
What do you think about the textar brake pad? Do they perform well and do they squeak or make any noise?
They perform well as OE performance. No squeak nor any sort of noise
What are diemnssions front brake
What size socket did you use for the calipers was that a 12point socket
Hi. It’s has been long if I remember correctly it was 14mm 12pts triple square socket. You can also try torx socket
Hello ,thanks for the video .
How to reset the warning light please ?
Warning light is caused by open brake wear sensor being worn down and crest open circuit. If you replace the sensor with new good one, pads warning lights will go off automatically. At least this is how all VW group cars work.
So you don't have to use an extension for your QuickJack 5000 SLX? According to their site, it only supports a max jack point spread of 60".
I measured my Macan and it's max jack point spread is 63". I assume your Macan is the same. Are your lifting block barely on the jack points? Looking for advice on whether to buy the 5000 SLX. Thx!
Hi Brian, you are absolutely right about the Macan jack span being slightly longer than the 5000SLX max supporting length. I moved the rubber blocks towards the maximum as I could and that gave me a little more than half of the overlap with the jack points under the car. After slightly lifting off the ground, I shade the car hard to make sure it was rigid enough. I can't recommend this to people due to the safety concern but it works ok. The reason I went with the 5000SLX is that I have another track car lowered only 3 in. off the ground and only 5000SLX thickness would fit without going to the 3500
@@luyichen11 Makes total sense! I think I will go with this model and get the extenders so I can accommodate the Macan and the incoming 991. Thanks for the reply!
@@BJP719 haha nice! Those are getting so expensive nowadays. Have fun!
@@luyichen11 don't I know it! But, you only live once!
Nice work! Which model Quickjack are you using? Thanks
Thanks. I have the 5000SLX
@@luyichen11 Thanks for the info, I wasn't sure if the 5000SLX was long enough for the Macan.
@@alSpeed it is. Macan jack point spacing is the longest 5000 can support without extension.
谢谢你的视频！请问能否把用到的工具和torque spec 分享一下呢？非常感谢！
不好意思才看见留言。工具基本和普通刹车更换没有区别，比如:
千斤顶，顶角这些最基本的是需要的.
其次拆轮胎可以用手动break bar，气动impact gun，或者电动impact driver，取决于你个人喜好和工具使用频率。
torque wrenches(1/2 & 3/8)
Screw drivers
Hammer
Anti-seize gel
Gloves, cleaning towels, etc
Main socket sizes and toques:
Lugnut: 19mm hex, 118 ftlb
Front caliper bolts: M14x1.5x115, 136ftlb
Rear caliper bracket bolts: M12x1.5 x85, 63ftlb. I did not remove the bracket
Rotor torx screw size: T30, 12ftlb
I have seen some people use a break maintenance mode using a scanner. You didn’t use it, was that not shown in the video?
For some vehicles for example Ford F-150, the service tool may offer a brake maintainance mode and once pads/rotors are swapped, coming out of maintainance mode will initiate the position relearn calibration. I have a generic scanner and this service tool does similar relearn trigger just with different name.
I believe you only need to put the rear brake system in maintenance mode to avoid damaging the electric parking brake and it takes a scanner tool to do that.
Is it normal to do both front and rear pads & rotors?? Or is it a coincidence that you had to do both at once?
It is normal if you follow the manufacturer’s spec and do the thickness measurement. But front ones usually have more wear than the rear so I guess you can wait for a little bit longer for the rear job. For me, I don’t want to track different remaining thickness and get every little bit of it. It is better to just get all 4 with brand new so they are even and start at another initial point. It’s safer that way too.
Hi Yichen,
Thanks for such a nice video. Can you please tell me where did you get the amount of torque from? Can you confirm the number again, please? Do you know the minimum thickness that you can use the rotors with? Thank you!
Hi Jorge, I had access to Alldatapro service site when I was with my previous company, that’s where I got the torque from. But now without the access, I’d rely on forum or buy a service manual to get the torque. Let me see if I can still find any useful info and get back to you on the request
@@luyichen11 Thank you for your very fast reply! Ok, understand. I’m asking because somobody posted in a Macan forum what is aparently in the oficial maintenance guide and it says to tight those bolts up to 30nM plus 90 degres turn, but that doesn’t sound very “official” to me…you said in your video something like 270nM I think
@@TH3CROW01 30Nm seems too small for caliper bracket bolt. 25+/- 5Nm is typically for oil filter cap housing so caliper bracket bolt takes much more.
Jorge, I see your concern. The snapshots say 22ftlb + 90degree turn. That is like over 100ftlb of torque. I went with 145 ft-lbs ahead. But I do recommend to follow the manual by torquing to 22ft-lbs first, and then make another 90deg turn and double check with the torque wrench see where that takes you.
@@luyichen11 thank you for the info. But can I ask you why you decided to use 145 torque instead if the manual says 22+90 degrees turn?
Thanks.
Hello! Is that the Brake Anti-Squeal Grease you put on the pad (where attached the rotors)? Also what's the can called you spray on the rotors? Thank you so much!!
No the anti-squeal grease is on the pad surface facing brake caliper. What sprayed on rotor is just brake cleaner for cleaning the rotor factory oil. Hope that helps
@@luyichen11 Thank you for the quick reply!! What's the "anti cease?" (not sure if I heard correctly) you applied to make sure rotors does not stick next time?
@@yihao4887 so the anti seize lubricant being used between rotor and wheel hub is to prevent rust from adhering them together so it will more difficult to take off next time.
@@luyichen11 Perfect Thank you!! Was trying to make sure I got the right thing. : )
Where did you buy the pads and rotors and how much did you pay
Partsgeek, total was $550
could you be kind enough to tell me where to get the 10 spline 14 mm socket male and the female , please? thanks so much.
Did you mean those triple square ones? If so, they are available on Amazon. Just search triple square socket set
@@luyichen11 thank you I didn’t realize they were the triple squares. Yes I see them
Hi YIcheng, can you please let me know your rotor and pad model numbers ? I am looking at PartsGeek, and there are many . Mine is 2016 Macan S. Thanks !
Mine is the 2018 GTS model so parts are slightly different than the S and base or Turbo. Here are what I bought hope it helps. Always check and make sure the size is correct for your specific vehicle :)
Rotor Front Left: Zimmermann 95B-615-301-G
Rotor Front Right: Zimmermann 95B-615-302-G
Rotor Rear: Zimmermann 95B-615-601-G
Pad Front: Textar 971-698-151-E
Pad Rear: ATE 9A7-698-451-00
Pad Sensor Front Left: Sebro 95B-907-253
@@luyichen11 Thank you !
Could you advice where to get the quick jack?
I purchased mine directly from quick hack. I see Costco carries them for a cheaper price now. Both 5000lbs and 7000lbs are $1399+tax. Pretty good deal
do u have to replace rotor as well? can I just replace brake pad?
You can just replace the pads but that’s not recommended by manufacturer. Rotors have minimum thickness as well so dealer and manufacturer recommend to replace together with pads for safety reasons especially for people or cars intended to be driven aggressively.
@@luyichen11 thanks. I want to try after your great vedio. looks easy just do not know if I can take off the old pad as easy as you. thanks!
@@asjduwjfjak you should be able to. Pads are usually much easier to take off than rotors
270Nm are you sure lol????? That is a serious amount of torque. Im pretty sure its 20Nm +90 deg. These are stretch bolts. But seriously 270Nm ??????
Thanks for pointing it out. Please see my comment response to Jorge about 3 month ago. Initial tightening torque is 22ftlb and the final tightening torque is+ 90drg turn. You are absolutely correct.
Zimmerman 的Rotor 和 pad 在哪可以买到
我是在partsgeek 还有 rock auto 分别买的零件。rockauto现在乱七八糟东西太多了，要小心。partsgeek好坏掺杂，要仔细挑
你好 我想问一下卡钳的固定螺丝所需要的套筒是什么尺寸的
是卡钳还是卡钳bracket？
@@luyichen11 Bracket
@@haozhezhou1321 我记得不是一个套筒，是大众那种triple square 12角的bit。M14的。我买了一套bit也不贵：NEIKO 10056A 1/4-Inch, 3/8-Inch & 1/2-Inch Drive XZN Triple Square Spline Bit Socket Set | 10 Piece Set | Cr-V Sockets and S2 Steel Bits a.co/d/iZaK0lE
@@luyichen11 好的 很感谢
why are you changing them?
Because car brakes are wearable parts they run out. Given our current technology they cannot outlast the entire usage life of the vehicle so people need to change brake pads and rotors when they need to be replaced. Hope that answers your question
@@luyichen11 I know that but your rotors looked good. I was wondering if they needed it or you just wanted to upgrade
@@luyichen11 I watched so I could replace my pads on my macan s Thanks for the info
@@jettaphillips5023 haha sorry I completely misunderstood. I measured my rotors with caliper and their thickness were below minimum service requirement. In the past I had rotors lasted two sets of pads and ignored the OEM requirements. They worked fine. But that’s not what I would recommend to others as OEM requirement should always be the rule when it comes to safety.
大哥,那个盘看上去不说赞赞新,但是至少还有80%的寿命啊. 片倒是磨差不多了.
看着新但是用卡尺量完确实没到oem要求的最低值。反正也是还所幸一起就换了