I would politely say that in this situation you are barking up the wrong tree. Don't you think the natives want this to be successful? I know I sure do having fished the Trinity and Klamath most of my life. We've never done much of this dam removal stuff in the past so this is kind of a huge experiment. Let's all try to make it a success please.
I have no issue with indigenous people harvesting what they traditionally harvested from nature. I do have an issue with them using non-traditional methods though along with non-traditional equipment, at that point it becomes something other than tradition. It ceases being cultural when they are using new jetboats, outboards, sport fishing tackle or nylon nets, that is European Culture and not native culture. If they choose to use noncultural methods, they should have the same laws as everyone else. I am waiting for some sports fishing groups to file law suits under the equal protection Clause.
@LiterallyOverTheHillAdventures That is a ridiculous statement. Why would a subsistence tribal fisherman fish with less efficient equipment? You would not. There would be time when traditional practices would be in order. That would be up to the tribe, not you. They owe you or us nothing. Quite the opposite. The Tribes understand that they themselves are guests here. So were their ancestors. Most modern Westerners have not learned that yet. They care little what you have issue with. Go watch TV.
@@johnkilty5091 it is all based on "tradition" and their way of life. Their traditional way of life did not have outboards, nylon nets nor any other modern means. I do not claim rights to do what others can not do based on traditions, so it is moot as to how I fish. I must follow the law like all others. I have no problem with them fishing and using modern means, just make the same laws I have to follow with regards to limits and seasons apply to them.
The only constant in the entire known universe is change. All entities evolve over time and under the influences of many things. This includes languages, cultures, and traditions. For the Yurok, their culture and traditions revolve around seasonal salmon fishing by whatever means they have. Hundreds of years ago they didn't dress in cloth-based clothing or live in homes constructed of milled lumber or any kind of concrete. That was their culture then, but due to the influence (and usurpation of their "traditional" tribal lands) by European settlers, their culture has changed. They have struggled to retain as much of their traditions as they could and now have been given an opportunity, which they fought for decades to achieve, to reclaim their cultural tradition of seasonal salmon fishing, after the near eradication of the salmon they depend on. Of all those who fish the salmon on this river system, I personally trust the Yurok to self-regulate their yearly reaping of the salmon run, as they understand probably better than anyone else the consequences of over-fishing the run, especially for themselves as a people. And while all tribal lands in the US hold a rather unique legal status as independent nations within our overall larger nation, tribal members are all US citizens and so have the same rights granted to them and all other citizens. As such, if they choose to use modern fishing methods, they have every right to do so. Taking issue with that seems to me, hmm, very narrow minded and perhaps a bit racist, especially if you are suggesting or implying tribal members be restricted to technologies they used for sustenance fishing hundreds of years ago.
@@loragunning5394 Looking at it more so under the 14th Amendment and equal protection, you know, discrimination based on race, ethnicity, religion etc...etc....If someone is allowed to do something based solely on ethnicity that nobody else can do, it is wrong....and arguably illegal. Congress can pass no laws that do so, and through the 14th, neither can states.
Now that someone(not you) is working to create something positive, you’re up off your butt and ready to gripe. The other animals told the little red hen, “ No, no, no. We cannot help you sow the seeds or harvest the wheat or grind the flour. But we will help you eat the bread.”
Great video, please post updates on restoration progress as often as you can.
Beavers must become a tool in the restoration of the river system and the protection of wildlife. The tribes are doing amazing work.
Amazing work!
I would politely say that in this situation you are barking up the wrong tree. Don't you think the natives want this to be successful? I know I sure do having fished the Trinity and Klamath most of my life. We've never done much of this dam removal stuff in the past so this is kind of a huge experiment. Let's all try to make it a success please.
This is such good news.
Thanks for making this video, I enjoyed it!
Stop Netting. Dead Fish don't Spawn.
You can't have your Cake and Eat it too.
And a huge fire every 5 years. All that grass is going to burn. Better be ready for that.
I have no issue with indigenous people harvesting what they traditionally harvested from nature. I do have an issue with them using non-traditional methods though along with non-traditional equipment, at that point it becomes something other than tradition. It ceases being cultural when they are using new jetboats, outboards, sport fishing tackle or nylon nets, that is European Culture and not native culture. If they choose to use noncultural methods, they should have the same laws as everyone else. I am waiting for some sports fishing groups to file law suits under the equal protection Clause.
@LiterallyOverTheHillAdventures That is a ridiculous statement. Why would a subsistence tribal fisherman fish with less efficient equipment? You would not. There would be time when traditional practices would be in order. That would be up to the tribe, not you. They owe you or us nothing. Quite the opposite. The Tribes understand that they themselves are guests here. So were their ancestors. Most modern Westerners have not learned that yet. They care little what you have issue with. Go watch TV.
@@johnkilty5091 it is all based on "tradition" and their way of life. Their traditional way of life did not have outboards, nylon nets nor any other modern means. I do not claim rights to do what others can not do based on traditions, so it is moot as to how I fish. I must follow the law like all others. I have no problem with them fishing and using modern means, just make the same laws I have to follow with regards to limits and seasons apply to them.
The only constant in the entire known universe is change. All entities evolve over time and under the influences of many things. This includes languages, cultures, and traditions. For the Yurok, their culture and traditions revolve around seasonal salmon fishing by whatever means they have. Hundreds of years ago they didn't dress in cloth-based clothing or live in homes constructed of milled lumber or any kind of concrete. That was their culture then, but due to the influence (and usurpation of their "traditional" tribal lands) by European settlers, their culture has changed. They have struggled to retain as much of their traditions as they could and now have been given an opportunity, which they fought for decades to achieve, to reclaim their cultural tradition of seasonal salmon fishing, after the near eradication of the salmon they depend on. Of all those who fish the salmon on this river system, I personally trust the Yurok to self-regulate their yearly reaping of the salmon run, as they understand probably better than anyone else the consequences of over-fishing the run, especially for themselves as a people. And while all tribal lands in the US hold a rather unique legal status as independent nations within our overall larger nation, tribal members are all US citizens and so have the same rights granted to them and all other citizens. As such, if they choose to use modern fishing methods, they have every right to do so. Taking issue with that seems to me, hmm, very narrow minded and perhaps a bit racist, especially if you are suggesting or implying tribal members be restricted to technologies they used for sustenance fishing hundreds of years ago.
@@loragunning5394 Looking at it more so under the 14th Amendment and equal protection, you know, discrimination based on race, ethnicity, religion etc...etc....If someone is allowed to do something based solely on ethnicity that nobody else can do, it is wrong....and arguably illegal. Congress can pass no laws that do so, and through the 14th, neither can states.
Now that someone(not you) is working to create something positive, you’re up off your butt and ready to gripe. The other animals told the little red hen, “ No, no, no. We cannot help you sow the seeds or harvest the wheat or grind the flour. But we will help you eat the bread.”