Tony Sp Because he was stabbing her with a gun? They could have stopped him with a baseball bat. I don't feel bad that the guy's dead but let's not pretend that there would be no possible solution to this other than a gun.
xX Xx blah blah, blah blah. The only solution was a gun, the only solution is always a gun, it doesn't matter if they ever cause a problem rather than solve it, you love guns, yeehaw! I get it.
First of all my dad was a loving man who wanted to see his child and the only reason he did it is because she said that she will not let him see his child so this happened because of her saying that she was not going to let him see my brother and the man did not have to shoot him 12 times he could have let the cops arrest him because he has children who care about him and we all miss him so y’all can stop getting mad because y’all need to hear what really happened and why he did It.
This was 5 years ago. I hope she and her child have recovered and are living a peaceful safe life. Her family showed up. In so many more ways than one. 👍💜💜💜
No one is addressing the real question which is, How do these crazy people keep finding cabins?! It's like they all have the money for nice little summer homes.
A life of an Innocent person is a priority to me, especially if it involved the kidnapping of my family member. I wouldn't hesitate to shoot a torturer !
Hal KW same here but I would try to inflict the same pain him/them would cause my family even if that would make be known to be no different then em.. but try to f**** with my people and they're done!!
Something like this happened to a friend. Her ex boyfriend had been stalking her. Her brothers were drop her off and she’d call them and let them know she was in the department. Well one day she didn’t call. He had kidnapped her. When the brothers found them they put quite a beating on him. One brother stab him. One of the stab wounds was in his ankle, crippling him. The brothers went to court and were not charged.
Its amazing how this guy with a long record of violence and domestic abuse is running about, yet there are over 3000 Americans in prison for life without parole because of NON violent offenses.
Thank God she's "alright"? Nobody is "alright" after something like that. The cops should be sued for ignoring communicable threats of violence in front of them. That lady is going to have PTSD the rest of her life.
No police, no army, no air force, no superhero or billionaire that can come close to the power of family. Family is everything, you'll only ever get one family and they'll do anything for you, and you for them.
Honestly we all can speculate what we might have done in that situation, but the truth is we are all human, and every one of us likely has the capacity to kill someone out of rage if we were put in this family's situation.
i would have shot him even if he had his arms tied behind his back. if someone tries to kill my sister, there's no way i'm giving him the chance to try again. it has nothing to do with rage (although i WOULD be angry), it's about ensuring her safety.
This is happening to my auntie. Her ex-boyfriend is stalking her and when he saw her once he said he swears he will kill her the next time he finds her. Now I’m scared. I text her everyday at the same time to make sure she’s okay.
This has been on my mind periodically since I first saw this year's ago! I have chills everytime I see this family member holding this abused scared family member!!!! What a man!!! Anyone know how they are??
You guys are wrong. The guy already went to the trouble of securing an isolated cabin in the wilderness. The correct thing to do would be to hold him at gunpoint, tie him to a chair, tourniquet his limbs and sever just below with whatever blade he had, then gag him and let whatever forest critter or stray dog that felt hungry gnaw away until he passed.
ekhaat In this situation...for the fun of it. Most people, me included, are peaceful and would never do such a thing normally...but if I were to find some bastard cutting up my sister, I might do something that would make Sensei's comment look like nothing.
EvotalKraeto I agree it may be a look a like Sin City movie you bring in the Shepard introduce it to the accidentally of course amputated legs(big knife fell off the counter who knew it could do that kind of damage) and let Fido enjoy.After to toss some salt on them legs as well,while he is alive.
Im always shocked at the shear volume of republicans who subscribe to TYT just to get pissed and post all over the comments... many of them I recognize from repeatedly saying stupid things on there videos alot! I have no idea why so many of them who clearly share none of the TYT's ideology are such loyal followers watching all there videos. Sometimes i think they are trolls but... Some seem more genuinely pissed off than others, plus I like to believe people like this exist I get off on it, I get a thrill out of having someone to argue with.
They do the same with Yahoo. They claim it's absurdly liberal, but on any given day the comments are always SWAMPED with ultra right wingers and their a utterly insane remarks. It's crazy.
Hell im being bombarded as we speak with a bunch of pro gun, shoot first ask questions later kinda people. Yeah theres lots of open minded individuals who watch TYT videos but you always see these hoards of people on any controversial video just flipping shit about "Trans-genders are disgusting! stop pushing your liberal agenda on me!" all the way to "If someone bruises my cheek im gonna shootem dead in self defense!" I have no idea what draws people with such extreme views to there videos in such vast numbers.
Dan Moriarity EVERY time I make a comment on a video by TYT or on a video of a controversial issue, same shit happens to me. It's hard to tell if they're trolling or genuinely that stupid.... it's kind of sad though that their comments are so raging and invalid that it's often impossible to tell.
Wow, did Cenk just invalidate a lot of what he's said about private gun ownership over the years? I thought it was better to not own a gun and let the police handle things?
***** I fully understand that there are grey areas. There are benefits to private gun ownership and there are downsides. The question is where it balances out. I've never seen TYT talk about the upsides to private gun ownership until this video.
GRiMHOLD In one of his recent videos, he stated that his opinion was that he was not in favor of private citizens owning guns. He said that "we should not be like Europe, where the cop's don't even have guns", but that we "should let the professionals handle it."
clearcutter74 I don't think they really talked about it being an upside, just the fact that it was the scenario at hand. I'm sure they had an array of baseball bats and such that they would have used if a gun wasn't present and still killed him?
He was stalking her. He threatened as well. They caught him in the act. He got put to sleep. He doesn't stalk or threaten this woman anymore. Best thing for him.
I bet the family was listening to the bed intruder song on a loop while they were searching. You don't have to come and confess, we're looking for you .We gon find you. We gon find you.
I would never even consider involving the police in something like this. The police always make every situation 10x worse, often they turn a situation fatal. Had police handled the situation they would have cowered outside the cabin for hours trying to negotiate while he stabbed her to death, or more likely, killed both the victim and the assailant in a hail of uncoordinated gun fire. TYT praises this story of heroism, but with the the other side of their mouth they condemn private gun ownership. I can't think of a more clear cut example of exactly why it is time for TYT to drop the hypocritical anti-gun rhetoric. It sucks that we need guns to protect ourselves from degenerates and our own government, but we do NEED them.
That entire comment rests upon the incompetency of the police force had they been the ones to break into the cabin. I think people could point to an example of the police screwing something like this up or to an example of it being executed (npi) properly to make opposing points. You speak as though there's no way any police force could have done it properly and no way this could have gone terribly wrong, both of which are false.
This article seems to imply that the police and the family were searching the area when the cabin was found. It was just the family that found the cabin first. news.kron4.com/news/kidnap-victims-family-kicks-down-door-kills-abductor/
to those gun worshippers in here: theres a difference between defending lives and shooting someone who just looked at you funny. even the military and police and even ordinary people on the street know that damn difference.
The first half of your statement is correct. As far as the second.....bullshit! Cops are murdering people every day because they have a badge and pseudo-authority. I leave the military out of my opinions for now but fuck cops, they're chicken shit murdering pieces of dogshit!
There are families out there that are and still looking and searching for years for a family member! The determination is still strong for finding their family members!!
I'm happy to see that this story actually ended well for the victim. Of course she was severely hurt but she's alive, her son is alive and the guy is dead. Maybe now she'll finally have some peace in her life...who knows how stressed and afraid she was :( Great job by her family, that's how supportive family's SHOULD be
With all of the past history of this guy, if I saw the guy with a knife at a distance and saw that he had already stabbed my relative, I would say that he fulfills the three factors (Intent, Opportunity, and Ability),plus the "21 Foot Rule" applies here, I would totally unload on this guy. Look up the "21 Foot Rule", it is basically an exhaustive study that the FBI did that states that a knife wielding assailant will be able to stab you before you can draw your gun and get off one shot if the person is at or within 21 feet.
The family should have called the cops. What if the guy had a gun? He coulda shot the woman, and shot the family too. There IS the possibility that the guy was not stabbing the victim at the time the family entered.....and they shot him anyway. Just because one gun story out of 1,000 seemed to turn out OK. They still cause much more violence than they save.
If a person goes so far as to actually kidnap and hurt someone that they've been stalking the only rational response would be to SHOOT the perpetrator. That kind of behavior will never stop... I would be grateful that my family member survived!
+Jason “Scar” Grey Most kidnappings today are by a parent or family member. Stranger abduction is on the decline and familial abduction is on the rise. The police always start with family members and close friends before going the stranger route, unless of course the kid is snatched from the mother or whoever has the child and they can confirm it was a stranger.
I wouldn't shoot him. I would slowly watch the light escape from his eyes as his windpipe collapsed beneath my bloodstained hands. Damn... I've been watching way too much Game of Thrones.....
How hypocritical can you get? The young turks bang on all the time about people that take the law into their own hands but by their own admission are ok with it when it comes to themselves.
superduperjew You are wrong when TYT doesn't condone using guns at all for any reason. Now they not only condone the shooting but also condone taking the law into your own hands. Which I am pretty sure they are against too. I think Cenk needs to do a follow up on this story. And explain why it is now ok to go all vigilantly and shoot this guy. I would of shot him but I am not against guns
Nick Kwas How does what its intended use is have anything to do with it? The fact of the matter is cars kill WAY more people then guns, but nobody ever says that they're awful killing machines. A hunting rifles intended use is to hunt, but it can also be used to murder people, just like how a car is intended for transport but can easily be turned into a 2,000 pound projectile.
I don't think it's about 'being liberal', which by most definitions I am. I think it's about doing the right thing and neutralizing the threat to that woman's life. I may be anti-death penalty, but when someone is an immediate threat to someone else, regardless of whether or not it's a family member in danger, you do what you can to save them, even if that means taking the life of the threat. That man made it clear that he meant to kill her. The only way to make sure that wasn't going to happen was by killing him. I don't like it, but it's the reality of the situation. I hate to say this, because I acknowledge that not all cops are bad, but the police were fucking useless here. People have gone to prison for threatening to kill people thousands of miles away from them on the internet, yet this guy was out on bail, with a record of violence against her to boot? W.T.F. Good on the family for doing what they had to do to save their loved one from a psychopath. I'm sure that when she saw that it was her family there to save her, people she knew and loved, it was the most incredible feeling of love and relief. I wish her and her family the absolute best. Arceneaux is a French name meaning one who had charge of the arsenal. That would be Bethany.
Where did all the comments about the guns come from? If anything the story is consistent with other reports. The whole point of gun control is that crazy people don't get to have guns. It should be perfectly straightforward. What the story was actualy about is the obvious and legitimate lack of trust in the police. Why do you have to spin every story to further your agenda? Do you all work in gun factories?
Yeah I think it is interesting that the family was able to use a tip to find him, but even more importantly that they didn't call the police to actually apprehend him. You could make the argument that it was because they were so angry and wanted the revenge, but I think maybe they weren't confident in the Police dept's ability either.
banditontherun1024 Armed civilians that are related to the missing individual isn't a "search" party, its a hunting party. I'm not surprised the guy ended up dead and I'm even less surprised that most people think it was a good result. My concern is for the innocent victims of vigilante justice that have yet to come as America seems to slide deeper and deeper towards this model where joe public is judge, jury and in some cases executioner.
banditontherun1024 I think your right. after all 3 days looking and the police who have all this Tech resources and leads. and they couldn't find here and a desperate family with a tip from a stranger who has scene his old car did?
Andy Hawkins Still, they found her, the police didn't and probably wouldn't. Even if they (the family) did intentionally kill him, the only way they could do it was to find him first. Would he actually preffer the police to find him? Would the result even be any different? I don't know. I think any reasonable person would prefer if the police handled these situations, but as it happens there is little trust in them to do it.
Simon Željko My comment wasn't so much about the outcome, primarily because none of us were there and didn't know the circumstances, but was about the way Cenk et all regularly rant against vigilante-ism and yet quite clearly at the end stats that even in the absence of an imminent threat they would have killed the guy. I find that very hypocritical. Truth is that in this day and age with lethal force becoming increasingly the go-to option for law enforcement, I doubt the outcome would have been any different, although ironically I suspect their Turks position would be slightly different.
This would've been my mindset. How many times have you heard of somebody been rescued from a attacker who tried to kill them. The guy gets out because of a technicality, or reduced sentence or who knows why. And the next thing you know the victim is dead. The only way that you can help society or the victim in these circumstances is to eliminate the threat. Because nothing else will stop it from happening.
I agree, thank God it wasn't in Britain or they would be charged with murder which I tend to find ridiculous. A true story of a nurse I worked with in Scotland, her dad a 59 yr old man at the time, was broken into in the middle of the night by a thief, he stabbed the thief and the thief won damages!! Not only that the man was sentenced to two years in JAIL for attacking him. This happened in a town called troon where there is next to no crime. The community set up a petition and organised a protest, it was published in the newspapers and everyone sympathised but STILL that poor man was left in jail. British laws are just stupid at times as is the idea that a guy with over 25 counts of house breaking history was still around roaming our streets and being allowed free again and again. If he had 25 counts of burglary where he was caught then how many more did he actually get away with? In our deficient justice system they also allow criminals the option of being tried for all counts at once and receiving a SIGNIFICANTLY much much shorter sentence. I listened in court one day to a trial where a man had 8 seperate charges and the judge gave him 3 months or two months to run concurrently, I didnt understand at the time that with good behaviour this man actually only received 3 months jail time IN TOTAL for all of those crimes! The victims must have been mad as hell, after going through a terrible persecution on stand from this scumbags lawyer for three days. It made me sick that this criminal who had assaulted this young girl (in the middle of his crime spree) with witnesses watching, LAY across the bench as his trial lawyer laid in to this 15 yr old girl on the stand, she was a VICTIM and this creep was laughing at her while the lawyer did everything he could to make this girl look a liar, I hated the lawyer and I hated his client but yet again even when found guilty the three month sentence was never served as the judge amalgamated it with the other previous charges. I was angry just listening to it. This animal smirked and thumbed up his disgusting family who were celebrating this behind the local journalists bench and who had been verbally abusing the young girl, nothing was done to reprimand their witness intimidation other than silence and order?! The newspaper printed the judges comments which were favourable to the victim saying " she is not a malicious lying sort of a girl" but that was the only justice she got under headlines which screamed 15 yr old girl kidnapped and held at knife point and beaten for 3 hours rescud by local man. They couldn't prove kidnap because the girl had not been tied up but only threatened to go with the man wtf? He had a knife, yet this is the justice system in Scotland, good job we have a low crime rate in my area, God forbid there would be no justice. I'm glad this family got justice for their family member, that 15 year old Ayrshire girl had no family to protect her from the jeering violent family of her attacker for ovr 6 months. No witness protection and multiple calls to the police were never proven due to the victim being the only witness, law is full of loopholes and the criminals and layers know ho to jump through every single one. True story.
WeeItsNookies I see these "cases" constantly referred to but I have never actually seen the actual stories. Do you happen to have any references to these stories actually being true?
defending your home is not illegal in britain, it just depends how you do it, if you stab somebody whos trying to murder your kid, then you dont go to jail, but if you stab somebody for trying to run away with your tv, thats a very different situation, even though in both situations a home invader ends up stabbed, just because a criminal made the choice to break and enter, does not mean that the homeowner should have free reign to sentence them to death for it
101andrewj Agreed. Here in the states in most instances you are not allowed to shoot some one while they are running away, out of your house, off your property. And this is more or less what I was hinting at in my previous comments...that certain details are left out of the "stories" to make them sound absurdly biased toward the perpetrator.
Citizens have as much rights to investigate, and stop crimes as police do. It is the the citizenship of the police that give them their powers, not their badges.
So I live alone and the same man has tried twice to break into my apt. He’s is in my last video on my channel I quickly recorded him. And a lot of ppl I’ve told don’t believe it, so that’s why I recorded him before calling the cops. I called the cops and it took them 30 mins to get to my door. Way to save me. But I had text my neighbors and instantly after seeing the video they are to this day still looking for him. I was happy they had my back, but kinda felt like men in general just want to hunt and kill serving a purpose like ending a threat like him). I have weapons in every room I’m learning self defense, mace in some rooms, and I know know more then anything to stay calm. When I reached for my phone I couldn’t unlock it, then couldn’t see my video button ended up taking a loud ass picture he heard, ( I’m not trying to scare him off I need him caught or you know worse) then I finally recorded and had flash on when it was not needed. Damn I was so loud too.
I love all the conservatives freaking out that TYT is taking a balanced approach to this issue, as opposed to the conservative method of passing judgement before assessing the situation. Yeah, TYT isn't Fox News. I thought we knew this.
I don't believe they walked in and saw him stabbing her but what I do know for sure is the family had they limit ,next time he would have definitely killed her. I can see that and don't even know her ,so I'm sure the family knew that because they know him .This was a blessing the odds of finding someone alive that was taken by their abuser is almost NEVER
Yes he started STABBING her when he realized we found them and wasn't leaving with out her. It's a sad story cause my nephew lost his dad but could have lost both parents that day. Continued prayers to the Thomas family who didn't deserve this either.
Blah blah blah. This is the problem with everyone and their screwed up views of law and justice. If someone is directly threatening to take the life of another, you dont take the threat as a joke, you don't try to hurt the bad guy and you don't leave it up to and rely on someone else to handle the situation. You do everything in your power to KILL the bad guy. End of story. Man up. I wonder what the world would be like if great men like Alexander the Great, Muhammed Ali or Robert Munson cowered at the possibility of confrontation. If they had allowed others to fight their fights for them or avoided aggression...how do you think the world would have turned out? There will always be aggressors coming from somewhere. You can't avoid it. So start being prepared for a freak situation and when the time comes for you to kill or be killed...PULL THE DAMN TRIGGER.
Should never shoot to kill. Shoot to protect. Do what you can to gaurentee her safety. Incapacitate the target. when the woman is safe and the kidnapper alive, perform first aid if necessary. You have to have your priorities and if you touch someone with the sole purpose of causing harm, your life is not a high priority, though, killing should always be the unpreferred outcome.
By may beliefs, (this may not line up with yours) justice needs to be served, and justice is dishing out an equal amount of harm to the person who caused it, mental, physical, or otherwise. So to me, if i saw that happening i would shoot him in both legs, crush them under my feet, and then shoot of each of his fingers so that he could never hold a knife again, after that, if she died i would shove him in a closet to bleed to death, if she lived, i would hand him over to the police and say it was an "accident"
A prison cant deal out the same punishment he gave to his victom, "oh but he would live in a sell, and eventually get put to death" yeah well he stabbed her, for each time he stabbed her her would lose a finger, starting with his thumbs so he would not be able to hold a knife, if she died in agony, he dies in agony.
and i know the old arguement "well you need to be better than them" well that is for some people, and if the person did something less severe sure, but there is a line between mercy and and letting them off without a scratch
TaimedChaos I see no justice in your words. Only vengeance. Punishment by law serves to purposes, to protect the citizen and rehabillitate the culprit. If a brutal murder is committed by an unrepentent sociopath, I am not necessarily against killing him if the opportunity presents itself, but the goal of the excecution is to defend future victims, not to inflict harm upon him. This isn't about being better. This is about having the right reasons to do the right thing.
+markedfang you have to think about the long-term consequences of your actions aswell, not just the immediate situation. that man swore to kill her, and he already tried once. eventually he'll get out of jail, and who knows if you'll be able to save her next time?
Good Story. This happen all of the time which is a travesty of major proportions. This guy got what he deserved. Slicing up this girl and everything else he has done. Good riddance to this scumbag. The world is a better place with him gone. Hopefully to hell. Good job by the family and a very big thank you to the guy who got the child to safety. No legal problems is the frosting on the cake.
Domestic abusers get too many free passes. So many poor women lose their lives even after reporting abusers multiple times and getting restraining orders. These psychos don’t stop.
I'm glad i've never had this problem otherwise i'd probably end up in a heap of legal proceedings, you can steal, break, or cheat me out of my property, I will call the cops, but if you do something like that to anyone in my perimeter you better hope you have good life insurance.
It'd be over. Having been a victim of domestic abuse, stabbed in the face, and various other places on separate occasions myself...He'd be dead. I'm not risking it.
But I thought vigilantism is bad and people shouldn't have guns and these things should be left to the police. Why does TYT change its mind so many times?
For once I completely agree with all the tyt guys. "Bang bang bang" justice served by the people who should serve it, the family. Our judicial system would be far less congested and the private prisons would make far less money if we had more "vigilante" justice. Of course some of the gun haters will cry anyway.
Because people who get it wrong. Your using emotion instead of logic. Our justice system can get it wrong, what about the citizenry, how often would they get the wrong guy.
You mean like it happened with Boston Bombing suspect who was found dead just because he had some resemblance to the actual bomber? Yeah, vigilante justice sounds great. Lets just kill whoever we THINK is guilty.
DiabeticManatee This is a clear cut case. If you don't see that then I have no reason to speak to you. Logic dictates that you eliminate a threat to save your life or the life of an innocent person over that of a KNOWN FUCKING CRIMINAL!!!!!! Does that blow your logic circuits? Probably so
I am not referring to this specific case. In this instance he was completely right because his cousin life was in immediate danger. I am referring to allowing vigilanty justice instead of the justice system.
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You are Not a liberal or conservative because you chose to protect your family. You are simply human.
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Amen
Amen sister !
Thank you!!
IamAshleyMusic - Absolutely!
This
That's my type of family. Loyal and protective.
I love that the family didn't give up on her . I really respect them for handling the situation the way they did. I would've done the same thing!
Thank u 💪
She would never have felt safe with that man alive. Now she can move on without having to look over her shoulder all the time.
These folks have done what every person on the planet should do.
Funny when a small family does a better job of finding someone than the entire police force does.
Lol
msnoahxlukefan thank god the law abiding citizens were allowed to own firearms
Tony Sp Because he was stabbing her with a gun? They could have stopped him with a baseball bat. I don't feel bad that the guy's dead but let's not pretend that there would be no possible solution to this other than a gun.
xX Xx blah blah, blah blah. The only solution was a gun, the only solution is always a gun, it doesn't matter if they ever cause a problem rather than solve it, you love guns, yeehaw! I get it.
msnoahxlukefan I didn't think that was funny at all D:
that's scarry. she was in the process of being killed when they found her. so glad she is safe.
Right!
Any man who abuses a woman , whatever payback he receives is alright with me
Amen 🙏🏾
works both ways you know! although i agree
I feel the same way when a woman abuses a child
@Ray Thomas I agree too. However I am speaking from my own experience, I feel no pity for abusers
First of all my dad was a loving man who wanted to see his child and the only reason he did it is because she said that she will not let him see his child so this happened because of her saying that she was not going to let him see my brother and the man did not have to shoot him 12 times he could have let the cops arrest him because he has children who care about him and we all miss him so y’all can stop getting mad because y’all need to hear what really happened and why he did It.
This was 5 years ago. I hope she and her child have recovered and are living a peaceful safe life. Her family showed up. In so many more ways than one. 👍💜💜💜
This woman is luckier than a lotto winner.
David Thompson amen
HELL yeah!!!!!!
You can win many lottos in life but once your died...your died...you can't live again
Blessed
I wouldn’t call being kidnapped and stabbed luck but hey everyone has their tastes
No one is addressing the real question which is, How do these crazy people keep finding cabins?! It's like they all have the money for nice little summer homes.
LOL- GOOD QUESTION
More likely, they would not do the kidnapping if they did not have a place to také them.
Probably because the family pools their money together instead of being pressured by society to move out at 18 and make stupid financial decisions.
WHERE DO THE CABINS COME FROM!?!?!?!?!?!?! #FINDTHECABINSTORE
HOW DO YOU KNOW
Just an hour away from. Sad... HER UNCLE & REST OF FAMILY WOULD NOT STOP SEARCHING FOR HER..... 😍😍😍 THAT'S LOVE
A life of an Innocent person is a priority to me, especially if it involved the kidnapping of my family member.
I wouldn't hesitate to shoot a torturer !
Hal KW I feel bad for saying same but same
Hal KW same here but I would try to inflict the same pain him/them would cause my family even if that would make be known to be no different then em.. but try to f**** with my people and they're done!!
Well, ... anyone tries to mess with my people or my family they would have to remember it for the rest of their life if they were alive!
Something like this happened to a friend. Her ex boyfriend had been stalking her. Her brothers were drop her off and she’d call them and let them know she was in the department. Well one day she didn’t call. He had kidnapped her. When the brothers found them they put quite a beating on him. One brother stab him. One of the stab wounds was in his ankle, crippling him. The brothers went to court and were not charged.
This should be a movie. Ill watch it.
Ann Mizze Watch "Fatal Attraction" Season 4, Episode 6. It's not a movie but true crime show where they reenact what happened.
There's a movie called, Fear, similar to this.
Who wouldn't? No way,he's kidnapped her,he's nuts, justice prevailed
Anonymous Human yes
Anonymous Human if only they were white
Stabbed and still kidnapped/held against her will - it's still self defense even across the room. She was lucky to be alive! Great family!
100% will do it...no hesitation
After this I bet you no one messes with this family.
Its amazing how this guy with a long record of violence and domestic abuse is running about, yet there are over 3000 Americans in prison for life without parole because of NON violent offenses.
Arceneaux family= THE NEW "A" TEAM.
I would go to the ends of the earth to save any of my family. Kuddos to this family for stepping up and finding their family member.
Thank God she's "alright"? Nobody is "alright" after something like that. The cops should be sued for ignoring communicable threats of violence in front of them. That lady is going to have PTSD the rest of her life.
I STILL have PTSD!!!!! And my piece of shit stalker didn.t get the opportunity to kidnap and stab me because he had to shoot up first.
I think he probably meant "Thank God she's alive and back with her family and alive to raise her son."
No police, no army, no air force, no superhero or billionaire that can come close to the power of family.
Family is everything, you'll only ever get one family and they'll do anything for you, and you for them.
Best family ever they searched and saved her that is awesome that man was crazy
I'm liberal and I would have done the same, that's not not liberal in my opinion it's self defense and defense of others.
I'd accidentally discharge my weapon, at least 3 times...
That is a family that protects one another . Amazing story and glad shes safe. A+ for vigilante justice! (in this isolated case only)
Honestly we all can speculate what we might have done in that situation, but the truth is we are all human, and every one of us likely has the capacity to kill someone out of rage if we were put in this family's situation.
Most people yes, everyone ? No.
i would have shot him even if he had his arms tied behind his back. if someone tries to kill my sister, there's no way i'm giving him the chance to try again. it has nothing to do with rage (although i WOULD be angry), it's about ensuring her safety.
This is happening to my auntie. Her ex-boyfriend is stalking her and when he saw her once he said he swears he will kill her the next time he finds her. Now I’m scared. I text her everyday at the same time to make sure she’s okay.
Praying for your Auntie ❤
Make shure she is documenting everything w the police
I pray to God she's safe
Any update on your auntie
This has been on my mind periodically since I first saw this year's ago!
I have chills everytime I see this family member holding this abused scared family member!!!!
What a man!!!
Anyone know how they are??
Me too...plus I was happy for her but sad for me...always had to protect myself from men. Never been protected...even as a child..
this can be a movie... it has a happy ending
It’s a movie non lifetime about it . Called “ I’m broad daylight “
In*
"The cops believe it...I believe it" (smiles and chuckles)
Justice is SERVED
You guys are wrong. The guy already went to the trouble of securing an isolated cabin in the wilderness. The correct thing to do would be to hold him at gunpoint, tie him to a chair, tourniquet his limbs and sever just below with whatever blade he had, then gag him and let whatever forest critter or stray dog that felt hungry gnaw away until he passed.
Why waste so much energy on such a scumbag
ekhaat
In this situation...for the fun of it. Most people, me included, are peaceful and would never do such a thing normally...but if I were to find some bastard cutting up my sister, I might do something that would make Sensei's comment look like nothing.
EvotalKraeto I agree it may be a look a like Sin City movie you bring in the Shepard introduce it to the accidentally of course amputated legs(big knife fell off the counter who knew it could do that kind of damage) and let Fido enjoy.After to toss some salt on them legs as well,while he is alive.
Im always shocked at the shear volume of republicans who subscribe to TYT just to get pissed and post all over the comments... many of them I recognize from repeatedly saying stupid things on there videos alot!
I have no idea why so many of them who clearly share none of the TYT's ideology are such loyal followers watching all there videos.
Sometimes i think they are trolls but... Some seem more genuinely pissed off than others, plus I like to believe people like this exist I get off on it, I get a thrill out of having someone to argue with.
My thoughts exactly...
Its ok there subscriptions make TYT look better counter productive.
They do the same with Yahoo. They claim it's absurdly liberal, but on any given day the comments are always SWAMPED with ultra right wingers and their a utterly insane remarks. It's crazy.
Hell im being bombarded as we speak with a bunch of pro gun, shoot first ask questions later kinda people.
Yeah theres lots of open minded individuals who watch TYT videos but you always see these hoards of people on any controversial video just flipping shit about "Trans-genders are disgusting! stop pushing your liberal agenda on me!" all the way to "If someone bruises my cheek im gonna shootem dead in self defense!" I have no idea what draws people with such extreme views to there videos in such vast numbers.
Dan Moriarity EVERY time I make a comment on a video by TYT or on a video of a controversial issue, same shit happens to me. It's hard to tell if they're trolling or genuinely that stupid.... it's kind of sad though that their comments are so raging and invalid that it's often impossible to tell.
This is amazing im so glad she survived!!!
Legend!! This rescuer somebody get him a pint, definatly deserves a medal
Wow, did Cenk just invalidate a lot of what he's said about private gun ownership over the years? I thought it was better to not own a gun and let the police handle things?
It is, just not in America. You can't fight a gun psychosis and police brutality.
just shut up
***** I fully understand that there are grey areas. There are benefits to private gun ownership and there are downsides. The question is where it balances out. I've never seen TYT talk about the upsides to private gun ownership until this video.
GRiMHOLD In one of his recent videos, he stated that his opinion was that he was not in favor of private citizens owning guns. He said that "we should not be like Europe, where the cop's don't even have guns", but that we "should let the professionals handle it."
clearcutter74 I don't think they really talked about it being an upside, just the fact that it was the scenario at hand. I'm sure they had an array of baseball bats and such that they would have used if a gun wasn't present and still killed him?
Bravo to The family for taking matters into there on hands
Of course it was her family. Who did you expect me to think rescued her? MY family? :|
He was stalking her. He threatened as well. They caught him in the act. He got put to sleep. He doesn't stalk or threaten this woman anymore. Best thing for him.
My sister would nag him so much he would be the one that needs to be rescued.
Peter C 😂😂😂😂
Whatever frees you from that situation
Or sing Church songs like that little kid did until they brought him back 😂
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O Henry's Ransom of Red Chief
I bet the family was listening to the bed intruder song on a loop while they were searching. You don't have to come and confess, we're looking for you .We gon find you. We gon find you.
I would never even consider involving the police in something like this. The police always make every situation 10x worse, often they turn a situation fatal. Had police handled the situation they would have cowered outside the cabin for hours trying to negotiate while he stabbed her to death, or more likely, killed both the victim and the assailant in a hail of uncoordinated gun fire.
TYT praises this story of heroism, but with the the other side of their mouth they condemn private gun ownership. I can't think of a more clear cut example of exactly why it is time for TYT to drop the hypocritical anti-gun rhetoric. It sucks that we need guns to protect ourselves from degenerates and our own government, but we do NEED them.
That entire comment rests upon the incompetency of the police force had they been the ones to break into the cabin. I think people could point to an example of the police screwing something like this up or to an example of it being executed (npi) properly to make opposing points. You speak as though there's no way any police force could have done it properly and no way this could have gone terribly wrong, both of which are false.
This article seems to imply that the police and the family were searching the area when the cabin was found. It was just the family that found the cabin first.
news.kron4.com/news/kidnap-victims-family-kicks-down-door-kills-abductor/
to those gun worshippers in here:
theres a difference between defending lives and shooting someone who just looked at you funny.
even the military and police and even ordinary people on the street know that damn difference.
The first half of your statement is correct. As far as the second.....bullshit! Cops are murdering people every day because they have a badge and pseudo-authority. I leave the military out of my opinions for now but fuck cops, they're chicken shit murdering pieces of dogshit!
That and their only allegiance is to their corporate masters.....and compensating for their inferior genital disorders
1972njr
Most of them are also religious fanatics, who seem to think the Constitution is part of the bible.
I could agree with you more if they actually knew the Constitution
1972njr
Hey most of them don't even know the bible.
There are families out there that are and still looking and searching for years for a family member! The determination is still strong for finding their family members!!
How amazing to be loved like that. Glad they saved her!
The fact that he tried to take the toddler too...he has no morals! At least the old bill agree.
Glad they found her. More power to them.
I'm happy to see that this story actually ended well for the victim. Of course she was severely hurt but she's alive, her son is alive and the guy is dead. Maybe now she'll finally have some peace in her life...who knows how stressed and afraid she was :( Great job by her family, that's how supportive family's SHOULD be
BIG Respect to this woman's family, That is what you call a family, You cannot rely on the police, They do not care......
It schools your family would not give up but to hear you tell the story was like pulling teeth.
With all of the past history of this guy, if I saw the guy with a knife at a distance and saw that he had already stabbed my relative, I would say that he fulfills the three factors (Intent, Opportunity, and Ability),plus the "21 Foot Rule" applies here, I would totally unload on this guy. Look up the "21 Foot Rule", it is basically an exhaustive study that the FBI did that states that a knife wielding assailant will be able to stab you before you can draw your gun and get off one shot if the person is at or within 21 feet.
True! I learned about 21 on an episode of Criminal Minds.
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The family should have called the cops. What if the guy had a gun? He coulda shot the woman, and shot the family too. There IS the possibility that the guy was not stabbing the victim at the time the family entered.....and they shot him anyway. Just because one gun story out of 1,000 seemed to turn out OK. They still cause much more violence than they save.
Would you have shot him?
Me: For my family.....without question!!!!
Justice! This happened a couple of towns over from where I live. We were so happy for the girl being rescued and reunited with her son.
If a person goes so far as to actually kidnap and hurt someone that they've been stalking the only rational response would be to SHOOT the perpetrator. That kind of behavior will never stop... I would be grateful that my family member survived!
who kidnaps their own girl and kid???
Some people are fcked up.
+Jason “Scar” Grey Most kidnappings today are by a parent or family member. Stranger abduction is on the decline and familial abduction is on the rise. The police always start with family members and close friends before going the stranger route, unless of course the kid is snatched from the mother or whoever has the child and they can confirm it was a stranger.
+Jas “Nikui hebi” Grey psychopaths
+Jas “Nikui hebi” Grey It was his ex-girlfriend
A crazy SOB
I wouldn't shoot him. I would slowly watch the light escape from his eyes as his windpipe collapsed beneath my bloodstained hands. Damn... I've been watching way too much Game of Thrones.....
How hypocritical can you get? The young turks bang on all the time about people that take the law into their own hands but by their own admission are ok with it when it comes to themselves.
You are exactly right. See how easy Cenk said BANG BANG BANG. How many times has TYT has said NO ITS WRONG. A bunch of hypocrites is right.
They saw someone trying to murder someone! At that point you must do whatever necessary to stop it. It's just reason.
jeffxl12 Difference is, this was clearly the right thing to do. There was an immediate danger to the woman.
superduperjew You are wrong when TYT doesn't condone using guns at all for any reason. Now they not only condone the shooting but also condone taking the law into your own hands. Which I am pretty sure they are against too. I think Cenk needs to do a follow up on this story. And explain why it is now ok to go all vigilantly and shoot this guy. I would of shot him but I am not against guns
***** They are not in 100% by anonymous. I remember they were to happy at a couple of there antics
When lawyers get involved the criminals become the victims. When this kind of justice is done it is guaranteed justice for the victims.
I'm glad they gave him his issue, then rescued her.
A gun used to save someone's life. Who'd have thought?
*****
can we just agree that guns can be used both to protect or to kill. Depends on who is using it.
ColdSheep
Unfortunately even when guns are used to protect they kill.
***** A gun is a tool. Blaming a gun for murder is like blaming a car for a car accident.
Jake Edwards
You seem to misunderstand the fact that guns are designed to kill, that's their only function, whereas a car crashing is an accident.
Nick Kwas How does what its intended use is have anything to do with it? The fact of the matter is cars kill WAY more people then guns, but nobody ever says that they're awful killing machines. A hunting rifles intended use is to hunt, but it can also be used to murder people, just like how a car is intended for transport but can easily be turned into a 2,000 pound projectile.
I don't think it's about 'being liberal', which by most definitions I am. I think it's about doing the right thing and neutralizing the threat to that woman's life. I may be anti-death penalty, but when someone is an immediate threat to someone else, regardless of whether or not it's a family member in danger, you do what you can to save them, even if that means taking the life of the threat. That man made it clear that he meant to kill her. The only way to make sure that wasn't going to happen was by killing him. I don't like it, but it's the reality of the situation. I hate to say this, because I acknowledge that not all cops are bad, but the police were fucking useless here. People have gone to prison for threatening to kill people thousands of miles away from them on the internet, yet this guy was out on bail, with a record of violence against her to boot? W.T.F. Good on the family for doing what they had to do to save their loved one from a psychopath. I'm sure that when she saw that it was her family there to save her, people she knew and loved, it was the most incredible feeling of love and relief. I wish her and her family the absolute best. Arceneaux is a French name meaning one who had charge of the arsenal. That would be Bethany.
Where did all the comments about the guns come from? If anything the story is consistent with other reports. The whole point of gun control is that crazy people don't get to have guns. It should be perfectly straightforward.
What the story was actualy about is the obvious and legitimate lack of trust in the police. Why do you have to spin every story to further your agenda? Do you all work in gun factories?
Yeah I think it is interesting that the family was able to use a tip to find him, but even more importantly that they didn't call the police to actually apprehend him. You could make the argument that it was because they were so angry and wanted the revenge, but I think maybe they weren't confident in the Police dept's ability either.
banditontherun1024 Armed civilians that are related to the missing individual isn't a "search" party, its a hunting party. I'm not surprised the guy ended up dead and I'm even less surprised that most people think it was a good result. My concern is for the innocent victims of vigilante justice that have yet to come as America seems to slide deeper and deeper towards this model where joe public is judge, jury and in some cases executioner.
banditontherun1024
I think your right. after all 3 days looking and the police who have all this Tech resources and leads. and they couldn't find here and a desperate family with a tip from a stranger who has scene his old car did?
Andy Hawkins Still, they found her, the police didn't and probably wouldn't. Even if they (the family) did intentionally kill him, the only way they could do it was to find him first. Would he actually preffer the police to find him? Would the result even be any different? I don't know. I think any reasonable person would prefer if the police handled these situations, but as it happens there is little trust in them to do it.
Simon Željko My comment wasn't so much about the outcome, primarily because none of us were there and didn't know the circumstances, but was about the way Cenk et all regularly rant against vigilante-ism and yet quite clearly at the end stats that even in the absence of an imminent threat they would have killed the guy. I find that very hypocritical. Truth is that in this day and age with lethal force becoming increasingly the go-to option for law enforcement, I doubt the outcome would have been any different, although ironically I suspect their Turks position would be slightly different.
Actually not a tough question ...if it were my child,sister ,stranger ..I know exactly what I would do .
This would've been my mindset. How many times have you heard of somebody been rescued from a attacker who tried to kill them. The guy gets out because of a technicality, or reduced sentence or who knows why. And the next thing you know the victim is dead. The only way that you can help society or the victim in these circumstances is to eliminate the threat. Because nothing else will stop it from happening.
Lol "I might let one slip."
I agree, thank God it wasn't in Britain or they would be charged with murder which I tend to find ridiculous. A true story of a nurse I worked with in Scotland, her dad a 59 yr old man at the time, was broken into in the middle of the night by a thief, he stabbed the thief and the thief won damages!! Not only that the man was sentenced to two years in JAIL for attacking him. This happened in a town called troon where there is next to no crime. The community set up a petition and organised a protest, it was published in the newspapers and everyone sympathised but STILL that poor man was left in jail.
British laws are just stupid at times as is the idea that a guy with over 25 counts of house breaking history was still around roaming our streets and being allowed free again and again. If he had 25 counts of burglary where he was caught then how many more did he actually get away with? In our deficient justice system they also allow criminals the option of being tried for all counts at once and receiving a SIGNIFICANTLY much much shorter sentence. I listened in court one day to a trial where a man had 8 seperate charges and the judge gave him 3 months or two months to run concurrently, I didnt understand at the time that with good behaviour this man actually only received 3 months jail time IN TOTAL for all of those crimes! The victims must have been mad as hell, after going through a terrible persecution on stand from this scumbags lawyer for three days. It made me sick that this criminal who had assaulted this young girl (in the middle of his crime spree) with witnesses watching, LAY across the bench as his trial lawyer laid in to this 15 yr old girl on the stand, she was a VICTIM and this creep was laughing at her while the lawyer did everything he could to make this girl look a liar, I hated the lawyer and I hated his client but yet again even when found guilty the three month sentence was never served as the judge amalgamated it with the other previous charges. I was angry just listening to it. This animal smirked and thumbed up his disgusting family who were celebrating this behind the local journalists bench and who had been verbally abusing the young girl, nothing was done to reprimand their witness intimidation other than silence and order?! The newspaper printed the judges comments which were favourable to the victim saying " she is not a malicious lying sort of a girl" but that was the only justice she got under headlines which screamed 15 yr old girl kidnapped and held at knife point and beaten for 3 hours rescud by local man. They couldn't prove kidnap because the girl had not been tied up but only threatened to go with the man wtf? He had a knife, yet this is the justice system in Scotland, good job we have a low crime rate in my area, God forbid there would be no justice. I'm glad this family got justice for their family member, that 15 year old Ayrshire girl had no family to protect her from the jeering violent family of her attacker for ovr 6 months. No witness protection and multiple calls to the police were never proven due to the victim being the only witness, law is full of loopholes and the criminals and layers know ho to jump through every single one. True story.
WeeItsNookies I see these "cases" constantly referred to but I have never actually seen the actual stories. Do you happen to have any references to these stories actually being true?
Pat MaCrotch
defending your home is not illegal in britain, it just depends how you do it, if you stab somebody whos trying to murder your kid, then you dont go to jail, but if you stab somebody for trying to run away with your tv, thats a very different situation, even though in both situations a home invader ends up stabbed, just because a criminal made the choice to break and enter, does not mean that the homeowner should have free reign to sentence them to death for it
101andrewj Agreed. Here in the states in most instances you are not allowed to shoot some one while they are running away, out of your house, off your property.
And this is more or less what I was hinting at in my previous comments...that certain details are left out of the "stories" to make them sound absurdly biased toward the perpetrator.
Citizens have as much rights to investigate, and stop crimes as police do. It is the the citizenship of the police that give them their powers, not their badges.
So I live alone and the same man has tried twice to break into my apt. He’s is in my last video on my channel I quickly recorded him. And a lot of ppl I’ve told don’t believe it, so that’s why I recorded him before calling the cops. I called the cops and it took them 30 mins to get to my door. Way to save me. But I had text my neighbors and instantly after seeing the video they are to this day still looking for him. I was happy they had my back, but kinda felt like men in general just want to hunt and kill serving a purpose like ending a threat like him). I have weapons in every room I’m learning self defense, mace in some rooms, and I know know more then anything to stay calm.
When I reached for my phone I couldn’t unlock it, then couldn’t see my video button ended up taking a loud ass picture he heard, ( I’m not trying to scare him off I need him caught or you know worse) then I finally recorded and had flash on when it was not needed. Damn I was so loud too.
to answer your question sir. Two in the heart one in the head.
Friday the Ice Cube movies are based on these people, I guarantee it. Just like in his movies, family comes and bails each other out.
WIth CC on, it says "Large nose family" instead of "Arceneaux Family"
aim for his leg... but i missed his leg, and he caught it mid-section...
sorry about that....
I don’t even think my family loves me that much...
And the kidnapper wasn't in jail because..............
the law protects scum , rapers, killers , child predators etc etc the elites and courts are the same evil protects evil
Because in the eye of the law smoking weed is worse then stalking, rape and murder.
Thats It ❗ DONE !! This is for All you Stalkers , never Mess With A Tight Family , Partner !! 😉
I love all the conservatives freaking out that TYT is taking a balanced approach to this issue, as opposed to the conservative method of passing judgement before assessing the situation. Yeah, TYT isn't Fox News. I thought we knew this.
When a guy with no training does better than you who has been training for years
She was touched by an angel her family.!
nothing like having you aerate the whole thing instead of playing the video
I don't believe they walked in and saw him stabbing her but what I do know for sure is the family had they limit ,next time he would have definitely killed her. I can see that and don't even know her ,so I'm sure the family knew that because they know him .This was a blessing the odds of finding someone alive that was taken by their abuser is almost NEVER
Yes he started STABBING her when he realized we found them and wasn't leaving with out her. It's a sad story cause my nephew lost his dad but could have lost both parents that day. Continued prayers to the Thomas family who didn't deserve this either.
What was doing meeting a killer like that in the first place then have a child by a murderer, she is not in her right mind either.
@@annamay2216 how would she have seen the future? You must be a stupid little girl
@@ms.mosley2902 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Blah blah blah. This is the problem with everyone and their screwed up views of law and justice. If someone is directly threatening to take the life of another, you dont take the threat as a joke, you don't try to hurt the bad guy and you don't leave it up to and rely on someone else to handle the situation. You do everything in your power to KILL the bad guy. End of story. Man up.
I wonder what the world would be like if great men like Alexander the Great, Muhammed Ali or Robert Munson cowered at the possibility of confrontation. If they had allowed others to fight their fights for them or avoided aggression...how do you think the world would have turned out? There will always be aggressors coming from somewhere. You can't avoid it. So start being prepared for a freak situation and when the time comes for you to kill or be killed...PULL THE DAMN TRIGGER.
There’s a movie on Tubi that’s based off this movie. It’s called In Broad Daylight. It’s a must watch.
I cried at their bravery and persistence ,what a family, may he go to the place assigned for him... hell
This guy doesn't even look like he is prepared for this video at all
I thought that was Birdman for a minute looking at the thumbnail.
Me too 😁
Should never shoot to kill. Shoot to protect.
Do what you can to gaurentee her safety. Incapacitate the target. when the woman is safe and the kidnapper alive, perform first aid if necessary.
You have to have your priorities and if you touch someone with the sole purpose of causing harm, your life is not a high priority, though, killing should always be the unpreferred outcome.
By may beliefs, (this may not line up with yours) justice needs to be served, and justice is dishing out an equal amount of harm to the person who caused it, mental, physical, or otherwise. So to me, if i saw that happening i would shoot him in both legs, crush them under my feet, and then shoot of each of his fingers so that he could never hold a knife again, after that, if she died i would shove him in a closet to bleed to death, if she lived, i would hand him over to the police and say it was an "accident"
A prison cant deal out the same punishment he gave to his victom, "oh but he would live in a sell, and eventually get put to death" yeah well he stabbed her, for each time he stabbed her her would lose a finger, starting with his thumbs so he would not be able to hold a knife, if she died in agony, he dies in agony.
and i know the old arguement "well you need to be better than them" well that is for some people, and if the person did something less severe sure, but there is a line between mercy and and letting them off without a scratch
TaimedChaos I see no justice in your words. Only vengeance. Punishment by law serves to purposes, to protect the citizen and rehabillitate the culprit.
If a brutal murder is committed by an unrepentent sociopath, I am not necessarily against killing him if the opportunity presents itself, but the goal of the excecution is to defend future victims, not to inflict harm upon him.
This isn't about being better. This is about having the right reasons to do the right thing.
+markedfang you have to think about the long-term consequences of your actions aswell, not just the immediate situation.
that man swore to kill her, and he already tried once. eventually he'll get out of jail, and who knows if you'll be able to save her next time?
Good Story. This happen all of the time which is a travesty of major proportions. This guy got what he deserved. Slicing up this girl and everything else he has done. Good riddance to this scumbag. The world is a better place with him gone. Hopefully to hell. Good job by the family and a very big thank you to the guy who got the child to safety. No legal problems is the frosting on the cake.
LOL. No this doesn't happen "all the time".
If she has already been stabbed, no question/s needed.
Domestic abusers get too many free passes. So many poor women lose their lives even after reporting abusers multiple times and getting restraining orders. These psychos don’t stop.
Shots to the leg are often fatal, not hard to hit an artery in the leg.
Markiplier to this, damn where did my time go
I'm glad i've never had this problem otherwise i'd probably end up in a heap of legal proceedings, you can steal, break, or cheat me out of my property, I will call the cops, but if you do something like that to anyone in my perimeter you better hope you have good life insurance.
NO ONES GONNA FIND THE BODY TO CLAIM IT
It'd be over. Having been a victim of domestic abuse, stabbed in the face, and various other places on separate occasions myself...He'd be dead. I'm not risking it.
There is something called justifiable homicide. And you walk.
The Arsenal Familly strikes back
But I thought vigilantism is bad and people shouldn't have guns and these things should be left to the police.
Why does TYT change its mind so many times?
***** - (Almost) everyone is a fiscal conservative when it comes to their own money.
For once I completely agree with all the tyt guys. "Bang bang bang" justice served by the people who should serve it, the family. Our judicial system would be far less congested and the private prisons would make far less money if we had more "vigilante" justice. Of course some of the gun haters will cry anyway.
Because people who get it wrong. Your using emotion instead of logic. Our justice system can get it wrong, what about the citizenry, how often would they get the wrong guy.
You mean like it happened with Boston Bombing suspect who was found dead just because he had some resemblance to the actual bomber? Yeah, vigilante justice sounds great. Lets just kill whoever we THINK is guilty.
DiabeticManatee
This is a clear cut case. If you don't see that then I have no reason to speak to you. Logic dictates that you eliminate a threat to save your life or the life of an innocent person over that of a KNOWN FUCKING CRIMINAL!!!!!! Does that blow your logic circuits? Probably so
I am not referring to this specific case. In this instance he was completely right because his cousin life was in immediate danger. I am referring to allowing vigilanty justice instead of the justice system.
Wh0s4tr011 How, exactly, do you misconstrue a simple comment like mine, Mr. logicman?
The english captions are hilarious, someone's got a naughty sense of humour!!
That shouldn't even be a question. Its OBVIOUS its OK to shoot to defend a human body