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Real talk baba Mutta,,,,,,tell dem people don killing animal 2 get meal coz animal like 2 live and enjoying life like any other living tings....tell dem Baba Mutta
Get where Muta is coming from, but I always feel like he approach this subject just looking at the westernised behaviour of man & animals. He never talks about those indigenous tribes (practically free from westernised way of life) and their relationship with the animal world. Some animal activists get on my nerves with the way they go about preaching after it was the "new world" lifestyle that created this warped relationship between us and animals. It's the same mentality viewpoint where westerners talk about over-population in Africa - when what they really mean is "we want to keep living our lifestyle - consume beyond our means" all the while African's consume less in a year than what they do in a week. That's hypocrisy at its finest.
Good points. Also, intensive farming to provide the rich with their vegetables is often at the expense of animals' habitat. It's not always as black and white as Muta represents it. Some limited eating of animals can be done in a respectful way, on a small scale, locally, which is very different to just mindlessly stuffing your face with burgers and kebabs. At the end of the day, though, us humans have got to the point where our huge population needs to find a sustainable way to feed itself, in such a way that we dont destroy what is left of the natural world. I see this as being mostly plant-based, but at the same time, Im wary of plant based monocultures and even more so of genetically modified plants. With obesity becoming a major health issue, maybe the era of mass produced food of low nutritional value and produced in a destructive way needs to end. More locally produced food for local communities, less cash crops for the 'market' maybe?
@@jamdownkernow1064 Very much agree with your viewpoint. Although I myself am vegetarian for over 30 yrs, lets not forget that behind the "vegan/vegetarian" movement is exactly some of the same problems we have with meat/flesh consumption. Plant-based diets fuelling and causing destruction of habitats (on both societies & animals) - being a vegan/vegetarian does not mean you are not contributing to some kind of harm somewhere. As you rightly say... it's all about mass production - this is the major problem, yes, going back to locally produced food is the way forward. And to all vegans/vegetarians, if the plant doesn't grow on your land, then you are in some way (albeit inadvertently) contributing to some of the same problems the meat industry has created for health, animals, societies & the environment.
@@RootsDaughter41926 Yes, we know there is no perfect way to be, in the sense of not impacting other species as we live & breath. But at least the intention of the vegan is to move toward a less harmful way of being, whereas we can't say the same for the vast majority of those around us, who don''t care one iota. On the farming point, that's not our fault, this is a systemic issue. These systems have been in place for a long time and most of us were born into this. It is down to the farmer to make changes at that end and for the consumer to support them.
Actually I patronized Rastafarian Chefs at Dance Africa Festival. The Menu was BBQ Tofu & Pineapple Broccoli Red Pepper Brown Rice. That food was Nice.😋🥦🍍🍽
I tried more than once but it’s very hard for me, still working on it thou cause it’s just the truth, can’t hide from the facts we should leave the animals
The prevention of cruelty to animals Act was not designed to stop people from "nyaming" animals for food, the law was enacted to outlaw and prevent the abuse of animals by human beings. The Lord God gave them to us so we can nyam dem to our heart's content, it is not immoral or illegal;. Indeed, Jesus fed the multitudes with fish, so seet deh.
"JeZeus" also fed 5,000 people with three fish and a couple loaves of bread!?? But, I don't see anybody doing that now! Who is to say definitely that "Jesus" ever truly existed? I'm amazed that some people still take the words of the Bible for absolute proof without doing any research. "Oh, dem bring this book and say believe!!" You can't reason with people like that.
Plants and vegetables have life too. Ppl never think of it that way either. They don’t sustain blood life, but they are alive! And when they die, you see the difference like when animals die. We still take lives to support our own lives so there’s still hypocrisy with the vegetarians as well. The highest form of life is seen in the trees which don’t take life but utilizes the minerals in the soil, utilizes the water, and utilizes the sunlight in a harmonious way which allows it to sustain its own life and give life to those creatures that breath in oxygen to live.They also live for hundreds of years. This is a step above eating as a vegetarian to support and sustain our human life. That level is Godly, and man has yet to reach that state of existence. We still need to take life to support of own, thus putting ourselves also on the food chain. So the vegetarians haven’t reached the highest level still. However, it is a step above eating animal flesh.
But, you will never see a cabbage run away when you harvest it to eat! What Muta is saying make all the sense in the world. I'm just laughing at all the people with a lust for blood and flesh commenting here. Just stop with the stories and say, "bwoy mi dream about mi sausage and eggs!" Nobody putting a gun to your head.
So based on the reasoning is all life equal or some life more important than some for example is the life of a plant less valuable than the life of a animal, if it's more valuable there is a problem if it is less valuable there is also a problem if it is equal in value then there is a problem also.if you say fruits and nuts is ok then eggs would also be ok , based on the reasoning but this is not gospel it's just a thought to show how complicated things can get.
I don't wish to eat meat and I choose not too but me can't tell a Next man what he must eat as he must choose for himself or her self in reality! I know what right fa me! in a sense it tells you what you should eat in regards to the the Holy Book No pork ect and too me it simply makes logical sense . But I can't force nothing on a Next person . This my belief and in turn I I believe it is yours to make for one self as I can only direct within teaching why it is so and explain why it's the right path for me. If they then make an informed decision then I am happy .
I do believe the word vegan means do the least harm. However people of certain Origins and blood types will not thrive without meat. This is where the sacrifice comes from. For us to judge those who need meat on these kind of ideologies is not a judgment that should be made. Any ideologies that divide us even those that seem to be for the good. Are not healthy ideologies. I lived 4 years vegan I almost faded away. That's when I found I was o negative blood type. Please don't demonize 8 to 10% of the population to meet meat because your body does thrive on vegetables. You must balance empathy with self-preservation. God loves you all equal as long as you live by his word.
Nonsense....you bought that idea because it was sold to you by the same cartel that's marketing their other products... Eat your meat if you want but that justification is lame.
@@barock44 everything is half true. Careful of what you think is virtue it'll cause riffs in your life that divide and resentment will build in your heart. Much love
To the contrary...there's absolutely nothing virtuous about being a non-meat eater. Maybe you can find a bit of empathy in not slaughtering dumb animals for food, especially those you nurtured as pets, but if your reasoning is that you need to consume them to thrive, then...thats lame. You stated that you made it 4 yrs,.... I am on my 34th year, also being O negative blood type and participated in NY marathon 9 of the last 12 yrs. Its a personal choice so we need not make a religion out of our bad eating habits. Sad to know that the conditional love you receive from your god requires you conform to his/her word that you cannot confirm...real sad.
If he is going to speak on something of the nature of eating meat and he says that we shouldn’t. Then it would only make since to speak on while the animals are here on this plane of existence. Also as the same as air, fire, earth and water, why do we need fire is it just to stay warm, why is everything upon the earth, what is its purpose of servitude?
So going off your logic....if its here then it's ok to contribute and cause unnecessary harm, pain, cruelty, oppression, slavery, rape, oh and don't forget racism/ speciesism
Again not because the plants dont run from us that mean we must eat it EVERTHING WE SPEAK ABOUT ANIMALS THE PLANTS DO IT TOO JUST IN DIFFERENT VIBRATION so its bias to even say BUT their are people who survive off just sunlight and air called breathaterian if that's the correct spell so I'm here to promote WISDOM over knowledge.
Muta, I dont like you ...BUT ! YOU GOT Mi on thisOne lol..cruelty to animal but , ..eating animals...bbq. Lmao , lol..teeheehe, ..RESPEC' DUE .. CODE OF HONOR ..HAVE TO BIGGUP WHEN DUE , YOU " BEAT" ME ! MUTA ...LUV BREDDAH.
Interesting how one's reasoning exempt that which is in one's favor. Why one doesn't take a it little further and advocate the same for all living things: including vegetables and fruits.
Vegetables and Fruits are part of the collective consciousness and are living but do not have a central nervous system which allows animals to feel pain, love, have families and have a EXPIERIENCE like you and me....when you harvest a fruit or vegetable the plant goes on living "the real circle of life" when you TAKE from someone they can never get what you take back like a body part or a LIFE.
@@3sotericCompassionist1976 Well. You admitted vegetables and fruits have life. But how can you conclude that they do not have any feelings with such certainty. You are aware that some people talk to plants and there is inconclusive scientific evidence that plants have emotions.
@@qpiter yes I do think that people should also advocate for plant life and grow as many plants as they can and nurture those plants and treat them with absolute respect. Plants show signs of intelligence, not sentience. Plants can respond to stimulus, such as moving towards the sunlight, they do not have a personal, subjective experience of the world. They also have no evolutionary purpose for feeling pain and have no brain or central nervous system to process the sensations. I doubt you would avoid walking on grass the same way you avoid stepping on a dog.”
@@qpiter fruits and nuts don't have life in them like how your describing life to be..the tree that bears them have life and they actually produces the fruits for animals to eat and as a matter of fact some plants won't germinate unless it's fruits been eaten and digested by an animal
If it is cruel to kill another living, sentient thing to eat it, why is it more morally objectional to end one life compared to another? If a plant engages in defensive behaviour to preserve its and it's neighbour's life when threatened or harmed, wouldn't it be cruel to eat it? Clearly plants prefer living over being eaten, just like animals.
@@razvan955 this is what I mean by arbitrary. You believe it is the length of time something is alive which determines how cruel it is to kill it. I dont. Just because an organism doesn't have a nervous system or vascular system, that doesn't mean it doesn't have a preference to survive over not. Plants communicate, they undergo electrochemical reactions and articulate themselves in response to perceived threats. While plants are not aware of their environment in the same way that you and I are, they clearly possess a preference to not die, just like sentient life forms. I would say it is cruel to end the life of something that can sense danger and react to it, just like Mutabaruka said himself.
@@razvan955 so you think the ability to feel pain and awareness is where it becomes cruel to eat another living thing then. This is a fair stance to take. In some parts of the world animal foetuses are eaten, if their nervous system hasn't developed and aren't aware, is it cruel to those too?
Context and perception because I am certain Muta among others would kill an insect or rodents for various reasons including annoyance/agitation, etc. Life is in EVERYTHING, and not because a tomato won't scream out upon being plucked from a vine (habitat) wouldn't make it any less of being killed to eat than an animal.
@@3sotericCompassionist1976 Please explain? However, consider that a fly and a rat also has a family and doing what nature (natural to them) intended so exactly how different is that in extinguishing/extinction! 🤔
You know, these fields of strawman arguments you people are building is getting tiresome. Muta did not take a side in the vegan vs non-vegan debate. He simply pointed out the hypocrisy of someone who says they are for animal rights yet eat slaughtered animals. Do any of you bother to listen before replying?
@@mystichdx The same way Muta brought forth perspective I too presented another side and dug a bit further but it appears you couldn't decipher that. 😓
Well, that’s your feelings Muta. But energy needs eat other energy, and since man is now at the top of the food chain it’s man who decides what and who to eat . It’s not cruelty to kill for food, for sports yes. Trees are living things, and plants have defenses also, yes they do.
So you're saying you wish to ingest the energy and spirit of an animal that did not want to die? That was in fear of its life or possibly had underlying illnesses, is that where you choose to get your energy from? Just how you wouldn't eat a bruised and bad apple because its deemed unworthy, you would eat a murdered creature, that you could never murder... mankind is so unjust...
“Can you define what a food chain actually is? [Probably not.] Let's look for a minute at what food chains exactly are and why they are so important. Food chains help maintain natural ecosystems and natural population sizes of wild animals. Food chains help maintain the natural ecology of areas of the world where they exist and they are fundamental to the survival of those ecosystems.” “What we do to animals when we forcibly artificially breed them, enslave, mutilate and exploit them before slaughtering them for our unnecessary desires has nothing to do with a food chain. It resembles nothing like you would see in the wild. It has nothing to do with helping to maintain healthy population sizes or maintaining the ecology of environments. What we do to animals cannot be compared to a food chain because it could not be further detached from a food chain.”
@@3sotericCompassionist1976 . noun 1. a hierarchical series of organisms each dependent on the next as a source of food. 2. the series of processes by which food is grown or produced, sold, and eventually consumed. "they have taken all reasonable steps to ensure that no contaminated products enter the food chain" here the actual definition of food, unless you wanna use your made up definition, we have to have a consensus on the definition of a word in order to communicate and comprehend
@@Nkosi766 “Do you think ‘might makes right’? Just because we CAN enslave other animals, does that make it a moral thing to do? What if I CAN steal money from the elderly, does that make it the right thing to do? Of course not. Because might does not automatically make right.” “Did you ever notice how no-one ever says it’s just the ‘circle of life’ or it’s ‘survival of the fittest’ when an animal kills a human? Because it’s different when you’re the victim, isn’t it?”
So taking life unessasarily isn't cruel? Put yourself in the victims situation. People have also been raping and killing each other for thousands of years...doesn't make it right.
"Killing isn't being cruel" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I swear, how much extensive damage does a human brain have to endure for it to formulate such complete abject stupidity??!?
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I think I will just stick to my fruits and vegetables, nuts and berries and grains. They don't bring unnecessary stress into my life. Great video 😎🤟🤟
The body feels so much better! Ppl MUST open the mind and HUMBLE themselves!
Seen 🙏
Grains like what? Cuz I thought grains was wheat=yeast/candida
Give Thanks Muta Bredren....nice to listen to. I stick with my vegetables, fruits and everything Natrual. Yea, Raspect the life of any creatures 🙏🙏🙏🙏
King Muta Baruka, you are leader and legend. Thank you for teaching us.
Always a wise reasoning from Mutabaruka.
Real talk baba Mutta,,,,,,tell dem people don killing animal 2 get meal coz animal like 2 live and enjoying life like any other living tings....tell dem Baba Mutta
Respect Muta 💚💛❤️
Leave the animals to be free and live
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I agree with u muta 100% 🙏🏿✊🏿🖤☝🏿🔥
Blessed joy my Lord for our God Almight sent blessing...
Yes mi brother respect 100%real
Yes, so true
We are all here together 💚
All animals are worthy in God's world: truths and respect...
"All creatures of our God and King, lift up your voice and let us sing... Hallelujah!"
Apprecialove Muta, no blood no bones in our kitchen!
Muta, the greatest in this time..👀❣
Get where Muta is coming from, but I always feel like he approach this subject just looking at the westernised behaviour of man & animals. He never talks about those indigenous tribes (practically free from westernised way of life) and their relationship with the animal world. Some animal activists get on my nerves with the way they go about preaching after it was the "new world" lifestyle that created this warped relationship between us and animals. It's the same mentality viewpoint where westerners talk about over-population in Africa - when what they really mean is "we want to keep living our lifestyle - consume beyond our means" all the while African's consume less in a year than what they do in a week. That's hypocrisy at its finest.
Good points. Also, intensive farming to provide the rich with their vegetables is often at the expense of animals' habitat. It's not always as black and white as Muta represents it. Some limited eating of animals can be done in a respectful way, on a small scale, locally, which is very different to just mindlessly stuffing your face with burgers and kebabs. At the end of the day, though, us humans have got to the point where our huge population needs to find a sustainable way to feed itself, in such a way that we dont destroy what is left of the natural world. I see this as being mostly plant-based, but at the same time, Im wary of plant based monocultures and even more so of genetically modified plants.
With obesity becoming a major health issue, maybe the era of mass produced food of low nutritional value and produced in a destructive way needs to end. More locally produced food for local communities, less cash crops for the 'market' maybe?
@@jamdownkernow1064 Very much agree with your viewpoint. Although I myself am vegetarian for over 30 yrs, lets not forget that behind the "vegan/vegetarian" movement is exactly some of the same problems we have with meat/flesh consumption. Plant-based diets fuelling and causing destruction of habitats (on both societies & animals) - being a vegan/vegetarian does not mean you are not contributing to some kind of harm somewhere. As you rightly say... it's all about mass production - this is the major problem, yes, going back to locally produced food is the way forward. And to all vegans/vegetarians, if the plant doesn't grow on your land, then you are in some way (albeit inadvertently) contributing to some of the same problems the meat industry has created for health, animals, societies & the environment.
@@RootsDaughter41926
Yes, we know there is no perfect way to be, in the sense of not impacting other species as we live & breath. But at least the intention of the vegan is to move toward a less harmful way of being, whereas we can't say the same for the vast majority of those around us, who don''t care one iota. On the farming point, that's not our fault, this is a systemic issue. These systems have been in place for a long time and most of us were born into this. It is down to the farmer to make changes at that end and for the consumer to support them.
Facts
Truth 👏🏾🇲🇱🇯🇲
Respect for the content my lord
Gratitude 🙏🏾
Yes.
Actually I patronized Rastafarian Chefs at Dance Africa Festival. The Menu was BBQ Tofu & Pineapple Broccoli Red Pepper Brown Rice. That food was Nice.😋🥦🍍🍽
I tried more than once but it’s very hard for me, still working on it thou cause it’s just the truth, can’t hide from the facts we should leave the animals
Great video.
THIS IS TRUE.
Thank you for this.
Smart words💚💚
Muta….. mi luv yu💪🏾🔥
Grande Muta🙏Respect
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🖤💚💛 Congo bongo respect
A reel thing you a tlack about . Respect from the malaning man
Much love ....🙏
If we can't prevent cruelty to other human beings then the animal's don't stand a chance
You really don't stand a chance with that mindset.
Thanks Genesis chapter 1 told me that many years ago and give the alternatives also. maybe The animals was the first ones to disobey
Hail up mutabaruka
VEGAN…..35YRS…NUH ANIMAL,NUH ANIMAL BY-PRODUCTS….
Blessings I bredren 🙏🏽
Share some of what you eat on a daily pls. How would I maintain my weight as I became real skinny when I tried this before.
true meh bredda me na eat no flesh not even fish .......that is a cruel evil ting ....seen .
A one ting mi know every body ia a vegetarian until famine strike
The prevention of cruelty to animals Act was not designed to stop people from "nyaming" animals for food, the law was enacted to outlaw and prevent the abuse of animals by human beings. The Lord God gave them to us so we can nyam dem to our heart's content, it is not immoral or illegal;. Indeed, Jesus fed the multitudes with fish, so seet deh.
"JeZeus" also fed 5,000 people with three fish and a couple loaves of bread!?? But, I don't see anybody doing that now! Who is to say definitely that "Jesus" ever truly existed? I'm amazed that some people still take the words of the Bible for absolute proof without doing any research. "Oh, dem bring this book and say believe!!"
You can't reason with people like that.
...yas iyaah!...giv thanx to masta muta!...words of wisdom!...fyaah bun!...bog up alll vegans n veggies dem...
No joke Rasta....
Plants replenish themselves as the Most High ordered it naturally
We need to stop eat animal and respect other form of life! I feel in my spirit, it is not right
Rastafari ! Wisdom
Is last night mi a reason with my brother bout this same eating of the meat animals
Vegan for years here 😘👍
Environmentalist and animal activist are two different things.
Both are linked
The physical state is very selfish,
What is funny. People would chastise the Chinese on TV for eating dogs and cats, while eating a plate of KFC.
True muta
Big facts lol
Human rights people. Ni irimu cia muthungu iheagwo mbeca ithukie
There is no way you can "love animals" and eat them.
That famous vegetarian, Hitler, said the same thing.
As my friend Sonny would say he doesn't eat anything that have eyes
😂🤣🤣😂😂😂 Bigup muta
Animals has no soul. There ment for us to consume.
Izes. Rasta 🔥
Plants and vegetables have life too. Ppl never think of it that way either. They don’t sustain blood life, but they are alive! And when they die, you see the difference like when animals die. We still take lives to support our own lives so there’s still hypocrisy with the vegetarians as well. The highest form of life is seen in the trees which don’t take life but utilizes the minerals in the soil, utilizes the water, and utilizes the sunlight in a harmonious way which allows it to sustain its own life and give life to those creatures that breath in oxygen to live.They also live for hundreds of years. This is a step above eating as a vegetarian to support and sustain our human life. That level is Godly, and man has yet to reach that state of existence. We still need to take life to support of own, thus putting ourselves also on the food chain. So the vegetarians haven’t reached the highest level still. However, it is a step above eating animal flesh.
Plant produces there own food taking energy from the eat and I think we can have the ability to do the higher we open up our consciousness
But, you will never see a cabbage run away when you harvest it to eat! What Muta is saying make all the sense in the world. I'm just laughing at all the people with a lust for blood and flesh commenting here. Just stop with the stories and say, "bwoy mi dream about mi sausage and eggs!" Nobody putting a gun to your head.
Thoughtful comment, but are you saying we must nyam the air to survive instead of plants?
The world has been deceived for soo many years,the civilization of Adam,yah said to Adam in genesis 1:29 ,that is our source of our life
Remember Mutabaruka's name. He promoted the shoulder jook to our people.
We are surrounded on all ends by horrific injuries, and deaths.
So true, but I love fish tho,and what about carnivores Thier food run from them too like the lion.
También para los activistas ambientales que se cagan en el agua
Most carnivorous animals eat their pery while it's still alive that's much more painful
If chickens could eat us they certainly would😁
cognitive dissonance is reaaaaaalll!!!
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So based on the reasoning is all life equal or some life more important than some for example is the life of a plant less valuable than the life of a animal, if it's more valuable there is a problem if it is less valuable there is also a problem if it is equal in value then there is a problem also.if you say fruits and nuts is ok then eggs would also be ok , based on the reasoning but this is not gospel it's just a thought to show how complicated things can get.
I don't wish to eat meat and I choose not too but me can't tell a Next man what he must eat as he must choose for himself or her self in reality! I know what right fa me! in a sense it tells you what you should eat in regards to the the Holy Book No pork ect and too me it simply makes logical sense . But I can't force nothing on a Next person . This my belief and in turn I I believe it is yours to make for one self as I
can only direct within teaching why it is so and explain why it's the right path for me. If they then make an informed decision then I am happy .
I do believe the word vegan means do the least harm. However people of certain Origins and blood types will not thrive without meat. This is where the sacrifice comes from. For us to judge those who need meat on these kind of ideologies is not a judgment that should be made. Any ideologies that divide us even those that seem to be for the good. Are not healthy ideologies. I lived 4 years vegan I almost faded away. That's when I found I was o negative blood type. Please don't demonize 8 to 10% of the population to meet meat because your body does thrive on vegetables. You must balance empathy with self-preservation. God loves you all equal as long as you live by his word.
Nonsense....you bought that idea because it was sold to you by the same cartel that's marketing their other products... Eat your meat if you want but that justification is lame.
@@barock44 everything is half true. Careful of what you think is virtue it'll cause riffs in your life that divide and resentment will build in your heart. Much love
To the contrary...there's absolutely nothing virtuous about being a non-meat eater. Maybe you can find a bit of empathy in not slaughtering dumb animals for food, especially those you nurtured as pets, but if your reasoning is that you need to consume them to thrive, then...thats lame. You stated that you made it 4 yrs,.... I am on my 34th year, also being O negative blood type and participated in NY marathon 9 of the last 12 yrs. Its a personal choice so we need not make a religion out of our bad eating habits. Sad to know that the conditional love you receive from your god requires you conform to his/her word that you cannot confirm...real sad.
If he is going to speak on something of the nature of eating meat and he says that we shouldn’t. Then it would only make since to speak on while the animals are here on this plane of existence. Also as the same as air, fire, earth and water, why do we need fire is it just to stay warm, why is everything upon the earth, what is its purpose of servitude?
So going off your logic....if its here then it's ok to contribute and cause unnecessary harm, pain, cruelty, oppression, slavery, rape, oh and don't forget racism/ speciesism
Dem eat cat and rat and dog 🤣😂🤣👍🏿👍🏼🐏🐈🍗🥩🍖🥓😜
Seafood best food
Again not because the plants dont run from us that mean we must eat it EVERTHING WE SPEAK ABOUT ANIMALS THE PLANTS DO IT TOO JUST IN DIFFERENT VIBRATION so its bias to even say BUT their are people who survive off just sunlight and air called breathaterian if that's the correct spell so I'm here to promote WISDOM over knowledge.
0:30 XD!!
Im vegan because I don’t believe in murdering needlessly..
Escape the *MEATRIX*
#HYVYBZ
Muta, I dont like you ...BUT ! YOU GOT Mi on thisOne lol..cruelty to animal but , ..eating animals...bbq.
Lmao , lol..teeheehe, ..RESPEC' DUE .. CODE OF HONOR ..HAVE TO BIGGUP WHEN DUE , YOU " BEAT" ME ! MUTA ...LUV BREDDAH.
A barbecue. Hahahahaha
Dead animal skin makes the drum sound
Using murdered beings for that purpose actually lowers the positive vybez
Akoraba psalm 93
Lions eat animals that have eyes and legs to run. So you are saying it is not natural for lions to eat animals?
We have to eat only fruits and vegetarisch muta you are talking about the things that we people should eat
Interesting how one's reasoning exempt that which is in one's favor. Why one doesn't take a it little further and advocate the same for all living things: including vegetables and fruits.
Vegetables and Fruits are part of the collective consciousness and are living but do not have a central nervous system which allows animals to feel pain, love, have families and have a EXPIERIENCE like you and me....when you harvest a fruit or vegetable the plant goes on living "the real circle of life" when you TAKE from someone they can never get what you take back like a body part or a LIFE.
@@3sotericCompassionist1976 Well. You admitted vegetables and fruits have life. But how can you conclude that they do not have any feelings with such certainty. You are aware that some people talk to plants and there is inconclusive scientific evidence that plants have emotions.
@@qpiter yes I do think that people should also advocate for plant life and grow as many plants as they can and nurture those plants and treat them with absolute respect.
Plants show signs of intelligence, not sentience. Plants can respond to stimulus, such as moving towards the sunlight, they do not have a personal, subjective experience of the world. They also have no evolutionary purpose for feeling pain and have no brain or central nervous system to process the sensations. I doubt you would avoid walking on grass the same way you avoid stepping on a dog.”
@@qpiter Inconclusive
@@qpiter fruits and nuts don't have life in them like how your describing life to be..the tree that bears them have life and they actually produces the fruits for animals to eat and as a matter of fact some plants won't germinate unless it's fruits been eaten and digested by an animal
If it is cruel to kill another living, sentient thing to eat it, why is it more morally objectional to end one life compared to another? If a plant engages in defensive behaviour to preserve its and it's neighbour's life when threatened or harmed, wouldn't it be cruel to eat it? Clearly plants prefer living over being eaten, just like animals.
are you arguing that people should eat rocks, or that it's ok to be cruel to all life?
@@femanvate no I'm arguing the moral line between eating animal and plant is completely arbitrary.
@@razvan955 this is what I mean by arbitrary. You believe it is the length of time something is alive which determines how cruel it is to kill it. I dont. Just because an organism doesn't have a nervous system or vascular system, that doesn't mean it doesn't have a preference to survive over not. Plants communicate, they undergo electrochemical reactions and articulate themselves in response to perceived threats. While plants are not aware of their environment in the same way that you and I are, they clearly possess a preference to not die, just like sentient life forms. I would say it is cruel to end the life of something that can sense danger and react to it, just like Mutabaruka said himself.
@@razvan955 so you think the ability to feel pain and awareness is where it becomes cruel to eat another living thing then. This is a fair stance to take. In some parts of the world animal foetuses are eaten, if their nervous system hasn't developed and aren't aware, is it cruel to those too?
Stop eating the flesh from.a animal
Muta man a kill animal from day one n animal kill animal
Context and perception because I am certain Muta among others would kill an insect or rodents for various reasons including annoyance/agitation, etc. Life is in EVERYTHING, and not because a tomato won't scream out upon being plucked from a vine (habitat) wouldn't make it any less of being killed to eat than an animal.
Pathetic
@@3sotericCompassionist1976 Please explain? However, consider that a fly and a rat also has a family and doing what nature (natural to them) intended so exactly how different is that in extinguishing/extinction! 🤔
You know, these fields of strawman arguments you people are building is getting tiresome. Muta did not take a side in the vegan vs non-vegan debate. He simply pointed out the hypocrisy of someone who says they are for animal rights yet eat slaughtered animals. Do any of you bother to listen before replying?
@@mystichdx The same way Muta brought forth perspective I too presented another side and dug a bit further but it appears you couldn't decipher that. 😓
Well, that’s your feelings Muta. But energy needs eat other energy, and since man is now at the top of the food chain it’s man who decides what and who to eat . It’s not cruelty to kill for food, for sports yes. Trees are living things, and plants have defenses also, yes they do.
So you're saying you wish to ingest the energy and spirit of an animal that did not want to die? That was in fear of its life or possibly had underlying illnesses, is that where you choose to get your energy from? Just how you wouldn't eat a bruised and bad apple because its deemed unworthy, you would eat a murdered creature, that you could never murder... mankind is so unjust...
“Can you define what a food chain actually is? [Probably not.] Let's look for a minute at what food chains exactly are and why they are so important. Food chains help maintain natural ecosystems and natural population sizes of wild animals. Food chains help maintain the natural ecology of areas of the world where they exist and they are fundamental to the survival of those ecosystems.”
“What we do to animals when we forcibly artificially breed them, enslave, mutilate and exploit them before slaughtering them for our unnecessary desires has nothing to do with a food chain. It resembles nothing like you would see in the wild. It has nothing to do with helping to maintain healthy population sizes or maintaining the ecology of environments. What we do to animals cannot be compared to a food chain because it could not be further detached from a food chain.”
@@3sotericCompassionist1976 They something you learn in elementary Watson
@@3sotericCompassionist1976 . noun
1.
a hierarchical series of organisms each dependent on the next as a source of food.
2.
the series of processes by which food is grown or produced, sold, and eventually consumed.
"they have taken all reasonable steps to ensure that no contaminated products enter the food chain" here the actual definition of food, unless you wanna use your made up definition, we have to have a consensus on the definition of a word in order to communicate and comprehend
@@Nkosi766 “Do you think ‘might makes right’? Just because we CAN enslave other animals, does that make it a moral thing to do? What if I CAN steal money from the elderly, does that make it the right thing to do? Of course not. Because might does not automatically make right.”
“Did you ever notice how no-one ever says it’s just the ‘circle of life’ or it’s ‘survival of the fittest’ when an animal kills a human? Because it’s different when you’re the victim, isn’t it?”
You can eat animals without being cruel. Humans evolved doing this for thousands of years. Long before religious cults like Rastafari came along.
So taking life unessasarily isn't cruel? Put yourself in the victims situation. People have also been raping and killing each other for thousands of years...doesn't make it right.
"Killing isn't being cruel" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I swear, how much extensive damage does a human brain have to endure for it to formulate such complete abject stupidity??!?
Yeah but humans no longer need to eat animal to survive is totally unnecerary
Top of the food chain Muta. We are all animals with animal instincts. Eating animals below you in the food chain is part of that instincts