Hey great video, cheers. Like you I got the first gen pro 1 with the nylon floor, definitely an improvement with DCF.. but ultimately I couldn't get past the lack of internal floor width and switched to a zpacks duplex lite. Hope you are continuing to recover and maybe doing some hikes again!? 🤞 Greg
Yeah as you know I had the Altaplex before so the Durston actually gave me more usable floor space and I've been fine with it. My recovery has hit some speedbumps, but I did the Buffalo River Trail recently and I'll have a video on that soon.
Hey Mike, thanks! I'm 6 foot (1.83m). The X-mid suits me absolutely perfectly. My son who bought my old one is 6 foot 3 inches (1.91m). Because the end walls slope up really steeply it even suits him as well.
hello, I would like to know if the dcf floor is better than the silnylon one. despite the slight price difference between the two versions, which one would be more solid. thank you very much in advance.
Hi there, the silnylon will be more resistant to puncture and abrasion. It will absorb water a little bit which will add to the weight of the tent after a wet night, and will be harder to dry out. The DCF is lighter, does not absorb any water and dries very quickly. It is not quite as robust as sinlnylon but I'm careful with my gear and I've never had a puncture nor tear in the floor.
Yeah good points, those are the downsides of DCF. I had an Altaplex with a DCF floor for several years and it didn't puncture so I think with care the DCF version of the X-Mid Pro 1 will be durable enough for me.
@@ozoutdoors Similarly, I have an Altaplex tarp that I use with the Z-packs bathtub floor and am just careful with it. The upside is how patchable it is if I do get a hole. I'm hoping that in the future the Aluula fabric will be made in a light enough version for tents, I am told it is almost there for flys and may already be there for floors. It will solve the problem of on-the-bias stretch and non-recovery of the mylar in DCF that makes DCF tents all puckered and flappy over time.
Yes, I'm really hoping to see Aluula tents soon. Durston has a pack made of it, but not yet a tent. My Altaplex got super stretched very quickly. People mock me for not being able to pitch it well, but the fact is that it's impossible now. We'll see how the X-Mid Pro 1 holds up over time. The 2023 version showed much less sign of stretching than the Altaplex and I think the way it pitches should hold up better over time.
@scottcampbell3644, You did a scientific study on the importance to people of being able to manage zippers with one hand? I think you're talking out of you a$$.
One-handed operation is something Durston Gear specifically highlights in their product description as a selling point. I'm just pointing out that not everything can be done with one hand, and that they could still make improvements in that regard. It's just a matter of convenience though, and if it doesn't bother you then that's great.
Great straight forward content. I am 6’3” and between the pro1 and pro2. Curious which you would choose. The weight difference is negligible IMO.
Left my altaplex for a 2024 Xmid pro 1. Tried the pro 2+ also (just didn’t need that much room). Great tents!
Same! Left my Altaplex for the 2023 Durston X-Mid Pro 1 and haven't looked back. I don't find I need the space of a two person tent either.
Hey great video, cheers.
Like you I got the first gen pro 1 with the nylon floor, definitely an improvement with DCF.. but ultimately I couldn't get past the lack of internal floor width and switched to a zpacks duplex lite. Hope you are continuing to recover and maybe doing some hikes again!? 🤞
Greg
Yeah as you know I had the Altaplex before so the Durston actually gave me more usable floor space and I've been fine with it. My recovery has hit some speedbumps, but I did the Buffalo River Trail recently and I'll have a video on that soon.
@@ozoutdoors have you looked at the new altaPlex lite floor size/ shape? Check it out, huge!
Hope you continue to heal up! 🙏
Getting the DCF floor was a must for me.
Yeah, me too, as soon as I negotiated a sale for the original one 😆
Hi Mike from NZ here how tall are you and how does the xmid suit ps good content thankyou
Hey Mike, thanks! I'm 6 foot (1.83m). The X-mid suits me absolutely perfectly. My son who bought my old one is 6 foot 3 inches (1.91m). Because the end walls slope up really steeply it even suits him as well.
@@ozoutdoors thankyu very much for your getting back to me so quickly. Have a good day Mike
hello, I would like to know if the dcf floor is better than the silnylon one. despite the slight price difference between the two versions, which one would be more solid. thank you very much in advance.
Hi there, the silnylon will be more resistant to puncture and abrasion. It will absorb water a little bit which will add to the weight of the tent after a wet night, and will be harder to dry out. The DCF is lighter, does not absorb any water and dries very quickly. It is not quite as robust as sinlnylon but I'm careful with my gear and I've never had a puncture nor tear in the floor.
@@ozoutdoors thanks 👍
Wish they would come with 2 way zips on the fly 🤦🏻♂️
I hadn't thought of that!
DCF floors puncture so easily and don't compress as small.
Yeah good points, those are the downsides of DCF. I had an Altaplex with a DCF floor for several years and it didn't puncture so I think with care the DCF version of the X-Mid Pro 1 will be durable enough for me.
@@ozoutdoors Similarly, I have an Altaplex tarp that I use with the Z-packs bathtub floor and am just careful with it. The upside is how patchable it is if I do get a hole. I'm hoping that in the future the Aluula fabric will be made in a light enough version for tents, I am told it is almost there for flys and may already be there for floors. It will solve the problem of on-the-bias stretch and non-recovery of the mylar in DCF that makes DCF tents all puckered and flappy over time.
Yes, I'm really hoping to see Aluula tents soon. Durston has a pack made of it, but not yet a tent. My Altaplex got super stretched very quickly. People mock me for not being able to pitch it well, but the fact is that it's impossible now. We'll see how the X-Mid Pro 1 holds up over time. The 2023 version showed much less sign of stretching than the Altaplex and I think the way it pitches should hold up better over time.
out pricing people in the hobby sadly
Yeah they are pricey. You can knock off several hundred dollars if you're willing to carry a few more ounces.
They have silpoly versions that are a fraction of the cost. Dyneema is expensive.
You 'sold' it to your son?!
And your wish list seems to revolve around doing things with one hand, which the vast majority of us have no issue with.
What things would have been on your wishlist?
@scottcampbell3644, You did a scientific study on the importance to people of being able to manage zippers with one hand? I think you're talking out of you a$$.
One-handed operation is something Durston Gear specifically highlights in their product description as a selling point. I'm just pointing out that not everything can be done with one hand, and that they could still make improvements in that regard. It's just a matter of convenience though, and if it doesn't bother you then that's great.
@@ozoutdoors The little tie for the netting seems out of place with the magnets and the zippers in that regard, doesn't it?
@drytool Yeah, that's how I see it, and thanks for the support :)