He was doing them a kindness in his own way. Showing them how useless their locks were if somebody really wanted to break in. There are people who actually do this for a living. They even post videos on the yootoob about it.
Veidt and Rorschach both busted through locks like Alexander cutting the Gordian knot. Veidt breaks a lock on-camera once, for a single important purpose and otherwise tries to find other ways to get rid of problems. Rorschach is more wanton with lock-busting, applying violence to every obstruction in his path. Veidt uses a lie to solve the metaphorical Gordian knot of war, while Rorschach potentially uses truth to break the metaphorical Gordian knot of peace Veidt has created with his actions. Or they both just really hate door locks.
Wow that bit about kitty genovese inspiring rorschach and him calling out the psychologist to get rich (worse people need to be fixed) was priceless. Self-deception is so scary about humanity. Nowadays people would have filmed Kitty genovese with their godawful bystander apathy
Technically the actual story of Kitty Genovese was that the occupants did call for help. The police for some reason or another either didn't respond to it or decided not too. I'm not sure.
SpaceShroom The ones you have not shed your eyes upon? No. That’s where you expect the horror. The REAL world is the horror that takes place in your own neighborhood. Darkness is all around you. But people ignore it, people are cowards.
had to sit down a few minutes after finishing this chapter, was very disturbing. Amazing work, i was just so into it. I forgot how amazing these comics were
Eh. Alan more was a anarchist, leftist so it sort of kines in with some of his views; but the difference is that he prioritized good writing over his personal ideologies which led to such beloved characters like rorschach. The show is, funny enough, very black and white.
@@RBorouma Thank you, I've been saying the same thing for ages, the show doesn't present any morally grey ideas or questions to the viewer where as the comic, really demands a lot from your own personal values and morals in order to understand or oppose what is being presented.
While this chapter is enjoyable, it’s also quite possibly the dumbest one in the book. Rorschach tells the guy his benign story and he cracks? He works in a prison in NYC in the 80’s, he’s definitely heard worse
I don't think it's the content so much as seeing just how twisted a person's mind can become. Rorschach might be the first high-profile serial killer the doc's personally worked with, too.
I Scheele I see your point, however I disagree with the first serial killer thing. Considering this man works in an NYC prison and his age, he more than likely has seen more than his fair share of killers.
The motion comic cut out the scene in which Malcolm’s wife says she’s sure he’ll help Rorschach because he’s “the most positive person” she knows. This implies that he sees everything, including his vocation, through a rose-colored lens of blind optimism, and / or belief in a higher power. That cut scene sets him up as Rorschach’s polar opposite.
You completely missed the point. It doesn't matter how "extreme" or "disturbing" an event is. Metaphysical concepts like these do not exist. The Doctor realized that, and he realized that everything he called "ink" on the inkblot was nothing. It MEANT nothing. Blank. He wanted a genuine purpose too late, he understood that his years were numbered. His epiphany was too late. It was too late to live.
That's what's great about this story. It never implies that any of the character's philosophies are the "right one". In the end, Dr. Manhattan can just be seen as a nostalgic sociopath.
13:21 As taboo as it is to say around watchmen fans. I would have loved to have seen more of Rorschach and niteowl in before watchmen. I know we saw some in BW: Niteowl but I just love the dynamic of the two and always want to see more.
the episode is a battle of world views between the doctor and rorscach, and ultimately we can see that rorschach won or rather was right I guess. (since its a rather hollow victory)
But it fits so well. And besides, comics have been stealing from other art forms and vice versa for years. It fits Roarsach's character. I don't like how in the movie he just uses the meat cleaver on the guy. The Mad Max way wasn't just murder, it was agony. Roarshach didn't just want him to die. He wanted him to suffer.
1. Ya but I also said I was going to put that aside for now, and give consideration to the ideas and philosophies talked about in this book. after reading the book, I must say Alan Moore is a phenomenal writer, this is his masterpiece. To me what makes him so good is how eccentric he is, and how poetically he expresses his nihilistic beliefs. I also think think part of what makes his writing so captivating is just how dark and depressing it is, Moore has such a wonderfully negative perspective..
3. and heres an interesting thought. Isn't Alan Moore is technically the God of the watchmen universe? He created it, he authors it, he is the "watchmaker", the one who predetermines the fate of the characters, however, he choses to write a sad tale, my belief is that we too have a grand watchmaker who created us and the universe however he lets us decide our own fate, and in too many words to fit in a youtube comment he wishes to be actively engaged in our fate, but only if we allow him/her/it
26:25 No. She was six. Her abductor killed her, butchered her and fed her to his German Shepherds. ... Gloria? Where are you going? ... I'm sorry. I don't know what stimulates you anymore. :p
i know this represents roschark stopping being soft by killing the dogs. but dogs were innocent, they didn't know better they were eating human meat. they were just eating cause they were fed.
@@welltailored0076 that's not their fault is my point. and not all dogs that bite people are put down, there is hardly something in human meat that would make them prefer them over other animals
@Jason Strom Except it really isn't. Motion comics have so much more effort put into them than your average audio book, and most have more than one voice actor. It's you guys who don't understand that.
Rorschach has been through a lot, torture, humiliation, pain, he understands the messed up world but still sees the city as his home. His ego is a mirror of irregular shapes that actually show how on either side, none are good or peaceful instead the same. The ‘ugliness’ called by the woman describes the world and she is correct. Rorschach behind the mask of ugliness and truth is the man who can see everything and realise that the city is never gonna change.
2. ..of the world, and he does SO GOOD at focusing on the bad... however, (and this may be where i start to sound like Dr. Malcolm) it almost seems like nothing "good" happens in the novel, the book is basically devoid of any happiness or any actions of genuine 'goodness'. now i understand that thats all necessary for the tone and themes of the book, but its just not an accurate portrayal of the real world, I believe there is good in the world despite the authors melodramatic perspective...
The scene where he confronts the guy was done way worse in the movie. And like, they left a shoe on the leg bone, as if they didn't think the audience would get it.
Alright I've only watched up until 15:38 but I'm calling it now, this therapist guy is gonna have his family killed, or get mugged, or have something terrible happen to him that makes him realize how bad humanity is.
The thing about Rorschach is that there is a contradiction between what his actions and beliefs, one that either he can't see or he doesn't want to see. If this is what society is really like, then what is the point of saving it? At the beginning he says that he won't save the city when the time comes but when its destroyed he says it was an act of evil. You say you won't stop something from happening and when someone does it you say they were wrong for doing it? To me, that is paradoxical at best and hypocritical at worst.
Rorschach is shown to be hypocritical and out of touch throughout the series. He calls his gloves "spotless" while they're illustrated as filthy. He shrugs off the Comedian's rape as a "moral lapse" and seems to think it's unimportant whether it's true or not but he makes a note to investigate whether Ozymandias is gay. He gives a long speech about being the one who is going to solve the mystery and save the city but one of the first things he actually does is walk into a bar and start torturing the first guy that talks to him for information.
@@DeathToMayo The one about the Comedian is hypocritical but the other ones are not. Rorschach tortured the guy in the bar because he insulted him. And the one about the mask has more to do with his strange views. As for the destruction in the city, purposely destroying it and covering up the truth is the same as taking part in it and that's what Rorschach doesn't want to do. So in that case, he has been consistent ("Never compromise"). He doesn't support taking the lives of innocent people.
In reality Dr. Manhattan's philosophy is the accurate understanding of his world and Ours. He was a man who lived in the illusion and because of "FATE", he was awakened to the true nature of everything. Doesn't make him a sociopath just someone who understands and lives according to his perception, like them all. He just gets it.
Man, I know the wirtting in this is extraordinary, Alan Moor is a master... But I have to say that the colorist was masterful in the choice of colors to outline light and shadow, backgrounds... And the pencil artist, has such a great sense of proportion and perspective... this book was an all round masterpiece, from the writting, to the pencil to the color... just masterful.
Rorschach is my favorite character, while he is not supposed to be a character to look up to and is deeply flawed, that's what makes him so interesting
Chapter 4 and 6 ate just some of the greatest writings of fiction ever.. some dont like the narrator but imo he really gets Rorscharch emotionless monotone cold in his words, he nailed these parts.
While I also disagree with the we are alone, in Rorschach's statments, it tells you something about him, even though he believes everything is pointless, he still does what he believes is right, regardless of it's consequences twoards him.
It isn't pointless though. He just realizes as clear as day that we can not sit on our laurels and hope. The only good that comes is what we make. To borrow a quote from Sarah Conner: "no fate but what we make"
Kyle Isbart Far-right objectivism. He’s explicitly described to be homophobic, misogynistic, and subscribed to a newspaper that’s basically just Breitbart for New York. The guy repeatedly defends a rapist and murderer (The Comedian). Rorschach as a character was meant to be a deconstruction of Steve Ditko’s creations like Mr. A or The Question by showing exactly how awful objectivists actually are as people.
Joe Francis yes he’s awful, and if you see Alan Moore’s quote about Rorschach u really see that he’s not supposed to be “cool” he’s an unreliable narrator when he’s reading his entries. Moore said that ppl that go up to him saying they love Rorschach are creepy or crazy, something to that extent lol
*Doctor*: "you don't like me, why is that, exactly?" *Rorschach*: "You're FAT... Wealthy...and sound just like Morgan Freeman. hate Morgan Freeman; Met him once... smug smile and white suit, told me I was special. showed me how to use he clap-on, a Cheap gadget for delusional liberals. light cannot be made by slight of hand, only the illusion of light manifests like a Fata Morgana in a desert of blackness. He smiled at me, freckles stretched like an elastic mask of sainthood, each spot mimics the cuddly pattern of a dalmatian dogs. I hate dogs; rabid prostitutes..." *Doctor*: "OOPS! Our Time is up, see you tomorrow!" *Rorschach*: "NO! Wait! I'm not DONE!"
The guy does a decent-to-good job with several of the male characters (not Dan though, imho). But they _really_ should've sprung to pay one actress - _any_ actress - to come in and read all the female parts. And even if they couldn't afford an actress, just any literate grown woman would've been a dramatic step up from this dude's off-putting "female" falsetto.
This chapter is EXACTLY why the film does not hold a fucking candle to graphic novel! All of the beauty and torture and grim poetry is utterly lost in the film. Glossed over as if it meant nothing.
2023 and dam he did not lie too him he told him the truth you want too help me cause it helps you you care for me cause i have fam and if you can so call make me better you be the man who made your way too fam by makeing me better.
"Existence is random. Has no pattern save what we imagine after staring at it for too long. No meaning save what we choose to impose. This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not god who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It's us. Only us."
Is it just me, or is Malcolm Long the worst psychiatrist ever?? Most psychiatrists I know wouldn't be that taken aback by those stories, and really wouldn't share their patient's anonymous stories with their dinner guests! Oh, well. If it moves the story along, so be it. And I do actually like Malcolm.
Even pchychiatrist are human perhaps when they done their patient their daily sessions even though they are seem emotionless they can be even be effected by words of their patients
Rorschach should've sent his journal to Dr. Long. He had no idea heading to Antarctica that Long wouldn't be able to do anything about the journal. Long had obviously started to take Rorschach seriously and Rorschach knew that Long wanted to publish stuff to be famous.
Wow... What a brilliant novel. I may disagree that we Are alone, but ill put that aside for now and just enjoy this masterpiece of art, writing and philosphy
Batman would try to throw Rorschach in prison for all the murder, and Rorschach would think Bats is a weenie for his no-kill rule and belief in criminal rehabilitation. Batman would absolutely refuse to humor Rorschach in any way.
This makes me think about two things: 1. Rorshach's will to try to save the world even though he receives no recognition for it and nobody likes him get my respect. 2. Does this make Red Robin a character not worthy of fighting crime? Nothing bad happened to him that made him become Robin; he very simply worked hard to try to do good. After Rorshach teaching us about the common person not knowing the darkness of the world, does that mean that Red Robin doesn't know at all what he's facing, and is "qualified" so to speak for the title of a "hero?"
Tragedy isn't a mandatory requisite for heroism. It's all a matter of choices. The fact Red Robin goes out of his way despite suffering no extreme tragedy shows that much.
Please somebody help me out here. I would've thought that the case of Kitty Genovese would be a stronger than the horrible incident with Gerald Grice. After all in Genovese's case there is obviously a stance where an assemblage people demonstrate a willingness to view what would be considered murder porn.
You know, Rorschach has a bad habit of breaking everybody's door locks...
He was doing them a kindness in his own way. Showing them how useless their locks were if somebody really wanted to break in. There are people who actually do this for a living. They even post videos on the yootoob about it.
Veidt and Rorschach both busted through locks like Alexander cutting the Gordian knot.
Veidt breaks a lock on-camera once, for a single important purpose and otherwise tries to find other ways to get rid of problems. Rorschach is more wanton with lock-busting, applying violence to every obstruction in his path. Veidt uses a lie to solve the metaphorical Gordian knot of war, while Rorschach potentially uses truth to break the metaphorical Gordian knot of peace Veidt has created with his actions.
Or they both just really hate door locks.
@@ischeele7203 locked doors were the real enemy this whole time
I love this. Rorschach broke his psychologist.
in 3 days too
Didn’t break him. He woke him up.
@@littlelizard3483
Sometimes, the harsh reality of life is what it takes to break someone.
To be fair, all Rorschach did was give him his opinions and he didn't lie about anything lol
I love the subtle touch of the psychologists journal starting to match Rorschach's style
Wow that bit about kitty genovese inspiring rorschach and him calling out the psychologist to get rich (worse people need to be fixed) was priceless. Self-deception is so scary about humanity. Nowadays people would have filmed Kitty genovese with their godawful bystander apathy
Technically the actual story of Kitty Genovese was that the occupants did call for help. The police for some reason or another either didn't respond to it or decided not too. I'm not sure.
love how when the psychologist broke, he started writing in Rorschach talk with the removal of unimportant words
I always thought he was on his way to becoming a masked hero, but I guess he's too old for that.
I though that too when I saw this years back. He starts “talking” like Rorschach.
@@spectre111I always imagined he'd use his influence as a prison psychiatrist to get people life in prison or recommended for death row if he did.
What powerful writing! Way darker than the actual movie, and that's saying something.
The movie can't have all
@@SubZero-hs9xcSnyder did not understand, nor care to understand the source material.
Honestly Rorschach leaving a man to burn is more disturbing than what happened in the movie.
He got what he deserved. Dogs not so much they didn't know better
Alan Moore definitely saw Mad Max.
Considering what the guy did...
The dogs, though...
I’m not locked in here with you! You’re locked in here with me! Greatest. Line. Ever.
Woah Rorschach is dark, very dark.
Real*
SpaceShroom
The ones you have not shed your eyes upon? No. That’s where you expect the horror. The REAL world is the horror that takes place in your own neighborhood. Darkness is all around you. But people ignore it, people are cowards.
had to sit down a few minutes after finishing this chapter, was very disturbing. Amazing work, i was just so into it. I forgot how amazing these comics were
The Narrator's voice for young rorschach was the funniest thing I've heard in months.
shooctagon I think it’s good
Fun fact. The psychologist who is in the room with the Rorschach is the father of the second Rorschach
I can't decide whether to be intrigued or outraged...
The psychiatrist wanted to look inside Rorschach's head. So Rorschach gave the guy up front tickets
Oh my Gosh... by the end of this chapter, the Psychiatrist is speaking like Rorschach. Welcome to Rorschach's world doc.
this is the most depressing chapter
I honestly don't think the people who wrote the show on HBO understood Rorschach, let alone the comic.
Eh. Alan more was a anarchist, leftist so it sort of kines in with some of his views; but the difference is that he prioritized good writing over his personal ideologies which led to such beloved characters like rorschach. The show is, funny enough, very black and white.
@@RBorouma
Thank you, I've been saying the same thing for ages, the show doesn't present any morally grey ideas or questions to the viewer where as the comic, really demands a lot from your own personal values and morals in order to understand or oppose what is being presented.
While this chapter is enjoyable, it’s also quite possibly the dumbest one in the book. Rorschach tells the guy his benign story and he cracks? He works in a prison in NYC in the 80’s, he’s definitely heard worse
I don't think it's the content so much as seeing just how twisted a person's mind can become. Rorschach might be the first high-profile serial killer the doc's personally worked with, too.
I Scheele I see your point, however I disagree with the first serial killer thing. Considering this man works in an NYC prison and his age, he more than likely has seen more than his fair share of killers.
The motion comic cut out the scene in which Malcolm’s wife says she’s sure he’ll help Rorschach because he’s “the most positive person” she knows. This implies that he sees everything, including his vocation, through a rose-colored lens of blind optimism, and / or belief in a higher power. That cut scene sets him up as Rorschach’s polar opposite.
The crashing of the spirit is far more disturbing than flesh's
You completely missed the point. It doesn't matter how "extreme" or "disturbing" an event is. Metaphysical concepts like these do not exist. The Doctor realized that, and he realized that everything he called "ink" on the inkblot was nothing. It MEANT nothing. Blank. He wanted a genuine purpose too late, he understood that his years were numbered. His epiphany was too late. It was too late to live.
That's what's great about this story. It never implies that any of the character's philosophies are the "right one". In the end, Dr. Manhattan can just be seen as a nostalgic sociopath.
13:21 As taboo as it is to say around watchmen fans. I would have loved to have seen more of Rorschach and niteowl in before watchmen. I know we saw some in BW: Niteowl but I just love the dynamic of the two and always want to see more.
finaly no i know where he did get that mask :D
did anybody noticed that the Doctor starts calling him Rorschach instead of Walter
And starting to talk like Rorschach at the end of the chapter.
the episode is a battle of world views between the doctor and rorscach, and ultimately we can see that rorschach won or rather was right I guess. (since its a rather hollow victory)
This is my favorite chapter, but the hacksaw thing is taken right out of Mad Max, so I'm torn.
Same, this is my favorite chapter as well. Maybe that's why they changed it in the film
But it fits so well. And besides, comics have been stealing from other art forms and vice versa for years. It fits Roarsach's character. I don't like how in the movie he just uses the meat cleaver on the guy. The Mad Max way wasn't just murder, it was agony. Roarshach didn't just want him to die. He wanted him to suffer.
Neil Davis did this or mad max come first tho?
1. Ya but I also said I was going to put that aside for now, and give consideration to the ideas and philosophies talked about in this book. after reading the book, I must say Alan Moore is a phenomenal writer, this is his masterpiece. To me what makes him so good is how eccentric he is, and how poetically he expresses his nihilistic beliefs. I also think think part of what makes his writing so captivating is just how dark and depressing it is, Moore has such a wonderfully negative perspective..
22:20 “youre mad man!” lol mad max anybody?
i cant stop listening to 27:58.Its so...amazing
Is it just me or does this look like the inspiration for Saw?
3. and heres an interesting thought. Isn't Alan Moore is technically the God of the watchmen universe? He created it, he authors it, he is the "watchmaker", the one who predetermines the fate of the characters, however, he choses to write a sad tale, my belief is that we too have a grand watchmaker who created us and the universe however he lets us decide our own fate, and in too many words to fit in a youtube comment he wishes to be actively engaged in our fate, but only if we allow him/her/it
in the end, its a picture of empty meaningless blackness
26:25 No. She was six. Her abductor killed her, butchered her and fed her to his German Shepherds. ... Gloria? Where are you going? ... I'm sorry. I don't know what stimulates you anymore. :p
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND A PICTURE OF THE LETTER KOVACS WROTE AS A BOY ABOUT TRUMAN AND HIS FATHER IT IS URGENT!!!!!
i know this represents roschark stopping being soft by killing the dogs. but dogs were innocent, they didn't know better they were eating human meat. they were just eating cause they were fed.
True 🤔 but now they had a taste for human children
@@welltailored0076 that's not their fault is my point. and not all dogs that bite people are put down, there is hardly something in human meat that would make them prefer them over other animals
He snapped. What did you expect?
Even i would be furious with the dogs
u are still young and full of life.When you become old enough you will see how ALONE YOU REALLY ARE.
My favorite chapter.
this awsome kinda depressing but awsome
Rorschach had a small childhood.
Whoever made this is in serious shortage of voice actors.
yeah there's only one in this whole thing
It's like an audio book reading.
@Jason Strom Except it really isn't.
Motion comics have so much more effort put into them than your average audio book, and most have more than one voice actor.
It's you guys who don't understand that.
Rorschach has been through a lot, torture, humiliation, pain, he understands the messed up world but still sees the city as his home. His ego is a mirror of irregular shapes that actually show how on either side, none are good or peaceful instead the same. The ‘ugliness’ called by the woman describes the world and she is correct. Rorschach behind the mask of ugliness and truth is the man who can see everything and realise that the city is never gonna change.
Poor Walter :(
Amazing
let's settle down kiddies.
In shakespear times, women weren't allow to act. All the guys played the females part because they had to.
Does that answer your questions Dr?
rorschach is fucking awsome
2. ..of the world, and he does SO GOOD at focusing on the bad... however, (and this may be where i start to sound like Dr. Malcolm) it almost seems like nothing "good" happens in the novel, the book is basically devoid of any happiness or any actions of genuine 'goodness'. now i understand that thats all necessary for the tone and themes of the book, but its just not an accurate portrayal of the real world, I believe there is good in the world despite the authors melodramatic perspective...
The scene where he confronts the guy was done way worse in the movie. And like, they left a shoe on the leg bone, as if they didn't think the audience would get it.
This chapter shows how watchmen is unfilmable
Alright I've only watched up until 15:38 but I'm calling it now, this therapist guy is gonna have his family killed, or get mugged, or have something terrible happen to him that makes him realize how bad humanity is.
He and his wife dies in a nuclear flash and his son becomes Rorschach
@@alienfuck6940 Well, I was kinda right. That last bit was unexpected though.
@@Quint_69 no you were completely wrong
The thing about Rorschach is that there is a contradiction between what his actions and beliefs, one that either he can't see or he doesn't want to see. If this is what society is really like, then what is the point of saving it? At the beginning he says that he won't save the city when the time comes but when its destroyed he says it was an act of evil. You say you won't stop something from happening and when someone does it you say they were wrong for doing it? To me, that is paradoxical at best and hypocritical at worst.
I don't think Rorschach wants to take part in the destruction.
Rorschach is shown to be hypocritical and out of touch throughout the series. He calls his gloves "spotless" while they're illustrated as filthy. He shrugs off the Comedian's rape as a "moral lapse" and seems to think it's unimportant whether it's true or not but he makes a note to investigate whether Ozymandias is gay. He gives a long speech about being the one who is going to solve the mystery and save the city but one of the first things he actually does is walk into a bar and start torturing the first guy that talks to him for information.
@@DeathToMayo The one about the Comedian is hypocritical but the other ones are not. Rorschach tortured the guy in the bar because he insulted him. And the one about the mask has more to do with his strange views.
As for the destruction in the city, purposely destroying it and covering up the truth is the same as taking part in it and that's what Rorschach doesn't want to do. So in that case, he has been consistent ("Never compromise"). He doesn't support taking the lives of innocent people.
In reality Dr. Manhattan's philosophy is the accurate understanding of his world and Ours. He was a man who lived in the illusion and because of "FATE", he was awakened to the true nature of everything. Doesn't make him a sociopath just someone who understands and lives according to his perception, like them all. He just gets it.
Can we be alone together?
In the end the doctor was no different then roarshack
wow if you think about it he actually found what made him sick but didnt help him feel better
Mommeee
The voice acting is bad. Story wise this wa bang on the book, which was a lot better than the film.
Man, I know the wirtting in this is extraordinary, Alan Moor is a master... But I have to say that the colorist was masterful in the choice of colors to outline light and shadow, backgrounds... And the pencil artist, has such a great sense of proportion and perspective... this book was an all round masterpiece, from the writting, to the pencil to the color... just masterful.
biggee316 exactly no one ever really mentions this
The amount of directions Moore gave Gibbons is insane. Every single time I reread the book I notice something new in the art.
bro u speaking facts
You don't do therapy on Rorschach, Rorschach does therapy on you.
In soviet Russia
Rorschach makes you just as fucked up as him
Like the man said 'when you look into the abyss, the abyss looks into you.' I feel like both men could have learned a lot from each other.
You don't do therapy with me, I'M DOING therapy with you
Rorschach is my favorite character, while he is not supposed to be a character to look up to and is deeply flawed, that's what makes him so interesting
He is really a deep character
He is a punisher version in noir style
Chapter 4 and 6 ate just some of the greatest writings of fiction ever.. some dont like the narrator but imo he really gets Rorscharch emotionless monotone cold in his words, he nailed these parts.
DC should’ve hire more narrators for infants and woman
While I also disagree with the we are alone, in Rorschach's statments, it tells you something about him, even though he believes everything is pointless, he still does what he believes is right, regardless of it's consequences twoards him.
It isn't pointless though. He just realizes as clear as day that we can not sit on our laurels and hope. The only good that comes is what we make. To borrow a quote from Sarah Conner: "no fate but what we make"
Ah! Nihilism
Love this chapter. Rorshach is definitely my favorite character!
congratulations
So long as its because he's an interesting character with depth, and not because you share his political views.
Joe Francis what are his political views?
Kyle Isbart Far-right objectivism. He’s explicitly described to be homophobic, misogynistic, and subscribed to a newspaper that’s basically just Breitbart for New York. The guy repeatedly defends a rapist and murderer (The Comedian). Rorschach as a character was meant to be a deconstruction of Steve Ditko’s creations like Mr. A or The Question by showing exactly how awful objectivists actually are as people.
Joe Francis yes he’s awful, and if you see Alan Moore’s quote about Rorschach u really see that he’s not supposed to be “cool” he’s an unreliable narrator when he’s reading his entries. Moore said that ppl that go up to him saying they love Rorschach are creepy or crazy, something to that extent lol
*Doctor*: "you don't like me, why is that, exactly?"
*Rorschach*: "You're FAT... Wealthy...and sound just like Morgan Freeman.
hate Morgan Freeman; Met him once... smug smile and white suit, told me I was special. showed me how to use he clap-on, a Cheap gadget for delusional liberals. light cannot be made by slight of hand, only the illusion of light manifests like a Fata Morgana in a desert of blackness. He smiled at me, freckles stretched like an elastic mask of sainthood, each spot mimics the cuddly pattern of a dalmatian dogs. I hate dogs; rabid prostitutes..."
*Doctor*: "OOPS! Our Time is up, see you tomorrow!"
*Rorschach*: "NO! Wait! I'm not DONE!"
I felt uncomfortable when this dude started moaning
The guy does a decent-to-good job with several of the male characters (not Dan though, imho). But they _really_ should've sprung to pay one actress - _any_ actress - to come in and read all the female parts. And even if they couldn't afford an actress, just any literate grown woman would've been a dramatic step up from this dude's off-putting "female" falsetto.
Ew
@@zardox78 Yeah, he is a great narrator but his female voices are just one step above cringe worthy.
So much sense in the Video... So less in the Comments...
Sad to learn that one of my favourite quotes was not originally written in the comic book.
"Men get arrested - dogs get put down"
Yea because it’s a terrible line
Shinnybuttnerd I disagree
My other favourite quote "God doesn't make the world this way, we do."
@@shinnybuttnerd248 full of Snyder cringe/edginess
I have to admit it might be one of my favorite lines of all time!
"Oh boy, was she tied up, gagged and helpless..."
Jesus, and I thought Rorschach was the psychopath.
Just the look on excitement n intrigue in his face like it was movie he was talking about I mean dude, she was a kid.
This chapter is EXACTLY why the film does not hold a fucking candle to graphic novel! All of the beauty and torture and grim poetry is utterly lost in the film. Glossed over as if it meant nothing.
It’s cause Zack Snyder is an idiot.
"Felt reborn. Was free to scrawl my own design on this morally blank world. Was cleansed.
Was Rorschach.
Does that answer your question, doctor?"
My Response: Cleansed of what, exactly?
2023 and dam he did not lie too him he told him the truth you want too help me cause it helps you you care for me cause i have fam and if you can so call make me better you be the man who made your way too fam by makeing me better.
"Existence is random. Has no pattern save for what we imagine after staring at it for so long."...damn. Is that a metaphor for Rorschach tests?
" free to scroll own design on this morally blank world...was Rorschach."
Malcolm sounds like Cleveland from Family Guy
inspired by the philosophy of Nietzsche
This is why child services is important.
I think Malcolm and Doctor Harleen Quinzel would make a great team.
That doctor's voice and demeanour is about as Paul Winfield as you can get. Nice.
"I'm not in this therapy session with you! YOU'RE IN THIS THERAPY SESSION WITH ME!"
to think that Doctor Long's son would assume the Rorschach identity
It's interesting to look back on the dynamic between Rorschach and Malcolm Long knowing how his son Reggie becomes involved
It was Kovacs that said "mother", it was Kovacs that closed his eyes, it was Rorschach that opened them
Rorschach = Batman if he was homeless
If he was more darker
"Existence is random. Has no pattern save what we imagine after staring at it for too long. No meaning save what we choose to impose. This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not god who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It's us. Only us."
Is it just me, or is Malcolm Long the worst psychiatrist ever?? Most psychiatrists I know wouldn't be that taken aback by those stories, and really wouldn't share their patient's anonymous stories with their dinner guests!
Oh, well. If it moves the story along, so be it. And I do actually like Malcolm.
Even pchychiatrist are human perhaps when they done their patient their daily sessions even though they are seem emotionless they can be even be effected by words of their patients
Rorschach should've sent his journal to Dr. Long. He had no idea heading to Antarctica that Long wouldn't be able to do anything about the journal. Long had obviously started to take Rorschach seriously and Rorschach knew that Long wanted to publish stuff to be famous.
Dr long dies in veidt’s squid attack so that would of been pointless
Stop spoiling you idiot!
We are alone
There is nothing else
Malcolm Long administers Rorschach Test. Rorschach responds telling Malcolm exactly what he wants to hear.
Good Joke
6:06 I can't be the only one who knew he was gonna say that.
Wow... What a brilliant novel. I may disagree that we Are alone, but ill put that aside for now and just enjoy this masterpiece of art, writing and philosphy
Rorschach is the type of guy who would post on twitter "Speak for self 'cause dont"
is it just me or does something happening to the audio in some parts of the therapist sound like darth vader?
hahaha well alright then, whatever makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside, I suppose ;)
God damnit that’s some brilliant writing. To the people that say watchmen is overrated… read this fucking issue
Rorshach is really one of the greatest comic book characters in history.
There needs to be a Rorshac/Batman Crossover.
There is now
@@irvingramirez2335 it's not Walter though, it's Rorschach II.
Batman would try to throw Rorschach in prison for all the murder, and Rorschach would think Bats is a weenie for his no-kill rule and belief in criminal rehabilitation. Batman would absolutely refuse to humor Rorschach in any way.
I actually saw a butterfly 🦋
This makes me think about two things:
1. Rorshach's will to try to save the world even though he receives no recognition for it and nobody likes him get my respect.
2. Does this make Red Robin a character not worthy of fighting crime? Nothing bad happened to him that made him become Robin; he very simply worked hard to try to do good. After Rorshach teaching us about the common person not knowing the darkness of the world, does that mean that Red Robin doesn't know at all what he's facing, and is "qualified" so to speak for the title of a "hero?"
Tragedy isn't a mandatory requisite for heroism. It's all a matter of choices. The fact Red Robin goes out of his way despite suffering no extreme tragedy shows that much.
red robin is much less grounded in reality than Rorschach
He told the dinner guest about Rorschach criminal record isn't that illegal tho?
Matter of public record. Also, neither guest is sitting on a jury so there's no question about interference with an active judicial proceeding.
16:29 I laughed pretty hard at that.
I personally think this is the darkest chapter in the comic book
Cheery.
Damn. Is it just me or does this chapter hit different?
Please somebody help me out here. I would've thought that the case of Kitty Genovese would be a stronger than the horrible incident with Gerald Grice. After all in Genovese's case there is obviously a stance where an assemblage people demonstrate a willingness to view what would be considered murder porn.