The Return of Gran Turismo 7's Most Controversial Problem

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  • @AndresGrimace
    @AndresGrimace 4 дні тому +459

    Every track should have a one hour 1M prize like Spa. People would play them and learn the tracks better.

    • @GriffinBarclay
      @GriffinBarclay 4 дні тому +3

      But the thing is, I don't like spa

    • @AndresGrimace
      @AndresGrimace 4 дні тому +54

      @GriffinBarclay 🤔 "every track"

    • @GriffinBarclay
      @GriffinBarclay 3 дні тому +1

      I know, but I just don't like racing at Spa or suzuka Circuit, so I just won't race at either of those tracks

    • @AndresGrimace
      @AndresGrimace 3 дні тому +35

      @GriffinBarclay I mean every track on GT7 should have a 1 hour, 1M race.

    • @GriffinBarclay
      @GriffinBarclay 3 дні тому

      I know

  • @tdog54
    @tdog54 3 дні тому +222

    Another major problem is the ridiculously insulting roulette ‘prizes’.

    • @bobbyosborne2375
      @bobbyosborne2375 3 дні тому +28

      Been playing since launch...still no Ferrari invite. 90% of the time the roulette gives me 5g or 10g.

    • @the.gods.of.obliviousity
      @the.gods.of.obliviousity 3 дні тому +2

      @@bobbyosborne2375 I honestly don't see the point of the invite. Unless I missed something. Every invite I've received , the car was in the showroom before I got the invite. Seems like a very pointless "prize". Aside from the roulette system, which is utterly ridiculous to begin with.

    • @AnthroGearhead
      @AnthroGearhead 3 дні тому +5

      True, i dont get why the Carrera GT requires an invite compare the 918 , the Carrera GT is an old car, should have been in the used car lots instead

    • @fowrunnah
      @fowrunnah 3 дні тому +3

      I so hate them!

    • @jonathanrichards4584
      @jonathanrichards4584 3 дні тому +18

      Does anybody want parts/engines on the roulette? It’s utter garbage!

  • @ninjay007
    @ninjay007 4 дні тому +214

    The worst feature they added in this game is the Hagerty prices.

    • @GriffinBarclay
      @GriffinBarclay 4 дні тому +40

      No kidding I don't want to pay 20 mil for a McLaren f1

    • @jesperpsv98
      @jesperpsv98 3 дні тому +73

      ​@GriffinBarclay Exactly this. I dont care it costs 20 mil in real life, the whole point of playing a video game is driving cars I will never drive irl.

    • @GriffinBarclay
      @GriffinBarclay 3 дні тому +5

      @@jesperpsv98 I know!!

    • @FH4Player6397
      @FH4Player6397 3 дні тому +1

      @@jesperpsv98 I don't have the Standard McLaren F1. I did grind for the 1954 300 SL as it's useful for the !H at Alscase in the Missions section (Human Comedy),

    • @ShanesAutos
      @ShanesAutos 3 дні тому +17

      @GriffinBarclayand there are three types of McLaren F1 which amount to 56,000,000 altogether…fuck that. I had the F1 in GT Sport when it cost just 1,000,000.

  • @mikeypv6
    @mikeypv6 4 дні тому +211

    There should be an award for your mileage each day... the more you drive, the more the reward not for 26miles only like the current daily reward

  • @BadDriverrr
    @BadDriverrr 4 дні тому +122

    That we’re still talking about “grinding” years into GT7’s lifespan shows how much of a problem the economy is and how much it’s ruining the gameplay experience. “Grinding for credits” is the worst.
    I’ve seen much more enjoyable gameplay from 580PP “historical” races than all those hours of 600, 700, and 800pp grinding. Even if it’s for a fraction of the credit award

    • @spacekiller1195
      @spacekiller1195 3 дні тому

      Hey dumb fuck, go play forza where they give you everything at the start, get bored in 6 minutes, and come back and shut the fuck up. The grind is perfect if you don’t want to grind then switch games stupid fuck. It’s not a problem that the game has its very intentional bud. You’re the same person who plays GTA with a modded account. There’s no fun in that unless you’re a loser that could never get there legit anyway so you need to have the account to feel better

    • @GDI-disc-accepted
      @GDI-disc-accepted 3 дні тому

      Not many ppl are going to sit for an hour going round the same track unfortunately

    • @christopherryan7780
      @christopherryan7780 3 дні тому +3

      I agree. I like using the old cars. I also set up my own “legendary/iconic” rally event where I use the stratos and have to run down a series of road cars and group b in custom liverys. It’s 14 laps and only nets me maybe 200k but it’s so much fun and is a hoot on a replay to watch a stratos against an escudo/ tomi mak lancer, possum bourne suby. You have to make your own fun in this game now.

    • @seansroadcyclingstrength6085
      @seansroadcyclingstrength6085 3 дні тому +3

      I managed to escape the grind with that abath glitch we had for a bit.

    • @fowrunnah
      @fowrunnah 3 дні тому +3

      I totally agree. What is going on here people! Racing for credits!! Stop it!

  • @Framidan
    @Framidan 4 дні тому +126

    What annoys me the most about GT7 is the star roulette ticket, 6 stars are garbage, all those car parts are completely useless (at least if you could sell it), 4 and 5 stars are most of the time better than 6 stars.

    • @JohnChristianAAnte
      @JohnChristianAAnte 3 дні тому +4

      Its only the 6 star parts ticket that suck. The regular 6 star ticket, 6 star cars ticket and for others the 6 star engine ticket is not something you should ignore

    • @marcelluscunningham8272
      @marcelluscunningham8272 3 дні тому +29

      Honestly, why can't we sell parts and engines when they have a price tag on them. It makes 0 sense

    • @AndreiSZS
      @AndreiSZS 3 дні тому +1

      6 stars tickets are the best tickets, may only be behind 6 stars cars. Learn how to read...

    • @mr198221
      @mr198221 3 дні тому +1

      I actually got a decent 6 ☆ reward recently. I had to post a vid because I could not believe it!

    • @jr260cc5
      @jr260cc5 3 дні тому +1

      Those tickets suck, and are annoying.

  • @sheldoncooper8199
    @sheldoncooper8199 4 дні тому +83

    I WANT A Freakin 2 hours Nürburgring Endurance Event that Never goes away and pays 2 Million clean Race Bonus and Let it be a 799 PP Event.
    would be great.

    • @GriffinBarclay
      @GriffinBarclay 4 дні тому +12

      3 mil clean race bonus

    • @sheldoncooper8199
      @sheldoncooper8199 4 дні тому +2

      @GriffinBarclay
      Yeah i Originally wanted to Write that but then i thought Nah they would never do that in 2025. Would be great People would Love it. I Loved the 4 hours of Nürburgring in GT 5 drove it with the Audi TT Touring Car and the Chaparal 2 D and the Mercedes CLK Touring. 3 Cars that i absolutely miss in
      GT 7.

    • @GriffinBarclay
      @GriffinBarclay 3 дні тому

      4 hours is a little long for me, and by the way, do you remember the payout of that race?

    • @sheldoncooper8199
      @sheldoncooper8199 3 дні тому +2

      @GriffinBarclay
      I remember it Not being that much i think
      1,5 Million ? Even that one 8 hours Race only had a Reward of 4 Milion and the V12 Lister Storm but that was Really hard only did that once. I remember getting the Audi R8 Race Car as a Reward in B-Spec Mode for 4 Hours of Nürburgring.

    • @GriffinBarclay
      @GriffinBarclay 3 дні тому +1

      @@sheldoncooper8199 I would expect at least 1 million credits an hour you spend racing on that event

  • @The_BenboBaggins
    @The_BenboBaggins 3 дні тому +67

    The ONLY reason I did the Bathurst race was for the 1 million credit completion ticket.

    • @TheFordMan888
      @TheFordMan888 3 дні тому +2

      Effectively making it a 1.2 Million event... Which is a great reward for 60 minutes!

    • @vixter_
      @vixter_ 3 дні тому +7

      ​​​​@@TheFordMan888 it's really not, on Sardegna you can get 1.4m plus change for under an hour of racing. The only reason why I did this challenge was because of my OCD not being able to handle missing s checkmark on the weekly challenges 😂😂

    • @xTheEcO
      @xTheEcO 2 дні тому

      @@vixter_ The 700pp Le Mans 30mins race is iirc around 800k, so 1.6mil per hour

    • @Leotheleprachaun
      @Leotheleprachaun 2 дні тому

      ​@@xTheEcO Lake Louise GRB clean race bonus is 198k/~5minutes.

    • @jeffrevell6599
      @jeffrevell6599 День тому +1

      @@TheFordMan888 But you only do it once! That's the point. I loved it the first time but I won't do it again. I love the track so I created my own race and got the nearly 500K credits for the same race.

  • @sillymonkE73
    @sillymonkE73 4 дні тому +81

    I don’t mind grinding, as practice makes better. But I think I can name every single marshall’s name in Sardegna . Add new events!

    • @GriffinBarclay
      @GriffinBarclay 3 дні тому +7

      @sillymonkE73 I usually do my money grinds at the WTC 700 Le Mans race, paying out at 825000 credits almost every time.

    • @Boricua_CJ
      @Boricua_CJ 3 дні тому +5

      @GriffinBarclaysame, its the only race I see worth playing for the money you get. Especially with the car I use, I’m usually a lap ahead every race so its easy money

    • @askmyAK
      @askmyAK 3 дні тому +1

      They add new events every week they are called time trials, do them.

    • @sillymonkE73
      @sillymonkE73 3 дні тому +1

      @@askmyAK I do them. I was referring to an actual race.

    • @KiWii69
      @KiWii69 3 дні тому

      What car do you use? I use the Red Bull x2014 ​jr. @@Boricua_CJ

  • @sean6077
    @sean6077 3 дні тому +26

    MINIMUM for a 1 hour race should be 750,000Cr. The Le Mans 30-minute race pays 550,000Cr. And a 1 hour race paying just over 25% of that is just crazy. Like you said...no replayability.
    I had quite a bit of fun doing the race. But that small payout means it was 1-and-done for me.

    • @andrewhardgrove5590
      @andrewhardgrove5590 3 дні тому +3

      My guess is they justify it as giving you a reward of $500,000 for completing all events since its the last race but still bull shit!

    • @Utopia-ich-suche-dich
      @Utopia-ich-suche-dich 2 дні тому

      @@andrewhardgrove5590 No, 1 Million this time not 500k.

  • @nick_g
    @nick_g 3 дні тому +34

    I hope the community boycotts GT8 until they fix the economy. Because you know they’ll increase the price cap to like $100 million in legends and they’ll keep the payouts the same. Rule of thumb is that any car should be attainable without having to grind for 10+ hours.

    • @joejoe2658
      @joejoe2658 3 дні тому +1

      yeah, why play the best vr racer on earth when u can make a point!!?

    • @matteon4192
      @matteon4192 3 дні тому +5

      ​@@joejoe2658 being a decent vr racer doesn't give them a right to make the game miserable to grind or make any decent progress in
      It's pretty obvious they want you to spend real money to progress hence why they do so much well until it comes to giving us ways to make money

    • @VariantAEC
      @VariantAEC 2 дні тому

      ​@@matteon4192
      What was the excuse for the broken economy in GT on PS1 in 1998 or GT4 on PS2 in 2004, or really all GT games?

    • @vvoof2601
      @vvoof2601 2 дні тому

      @@matteon4192 Yeah I don't really care sorry, I'm gettin GT8 day one.

    • @N1ckZ
      @N1ckZ День тому

      LOLOLOL you are probably coming from Forza which gives you every single car in 2 hours and you've never played any of the previous numbered GT games.

  • @darkstar_448
    @darkstar_448 4 дні тому +15

    I envisage the disparity between the custom race and event payouts being fixed in the next patch by removing payouts from custom races...

  • @sharptojo6420
    @sharptojo6420 3 дні тому +5

    This game has SO much potential, but sadly a studio that couldn’t care less about making changes or updates that players actually want.

  • @yourtubisfilled7164
    @yourtubisfilled7164 4 дні тому +28

    Great point. I CAN'T fathom why they don't add more diversity in racing options for the top level rewarding races. It seems so random and unrewarding. If you hate wall riding Sardinia is pretty much the only choice you have. Nice track though but it gets old very fast. We need more variety to spend or credit grinding hours on. Such a shame of all the great tracks in the game. Every track should have a top level earnings option.

  • @Shashino
    @Shashino 3 дні тому +10

    Man, I just miss 9 legendary cars and they all cost 20M each which means I need 180M just for them. It's crazy

    • @The.world.has.gone.crazy...
      @The.world.has.gone.crazy... 2 дні тому

      I am so happy i got all cars in the game allready.

    • @supercar2131
      @supercar2131 День тому +2

      Just finished all the Hagerty cars yesterday. Now I have to clean out the auto show for about 100 mil.

    • @Shashino
      @Shashino День тому

      @@supercar2131 Let's go man

    • @The.world.has.gone.crazy...
      @The.world.has.gone.crazy... День тому

      @@supercar2131 you will get there! It's even become a tiny bit easier with the weekly challenges. I am rooting for you!

  • @Paul_Ehlers
    @Paul_Ehlers 4 дні тому +17

    I have done this race 5 or 6 times already, with different GR3 cars and strats. Loving it.

    • @ArumesYT
      @ArumesYT 4 дні тому +9

      Yeah it's a great race. Seems like some people care more about credits than racing. Fine, don't play racing games then.

    • @Paul_Ehlers
      @Paul_Ehlers 4 дні тому +4

      @ArumesYT exactly.. I don't care about the credits. Just enjoying a well balanced race. 👌

    • @h1gh_end134
      @h1gh_end134 4 дні тому +10

      @@ArumesYTI mean if I race for a whole hour I expect a good reward, you might not need credits but other people do so speak for yourself

    • @ianpatrick4065
      @ianpatrick4065 4 дні тому +2

      I've done the same even tried a severely detuned red bull 😅. I'm gonna try all my gr3 cars hopefully before the even leaves

    • @robertgodlewski8553
      @robertgodlewski8553 3 дні тому +7

      ​@@ArumesYTI may be in the minority. But credits are necessary in this game. I want to be able to buy different cars to try them out. I want to be able to buy legendary cars for 20 mil. I want to replace engines and customize cars. All that takes credits!

  • @Poptartsicles
    @Poptartsicles 4 дні тому +16

    95% of the races in the entire game aren't worth doing more than once, that's the real sad part. I don't expect every single race to be equally optimal for grinding credits, but I also don't expect one race to give me 90% fewer credits for the same amount of effort as another race, especially if they're in the same class. Make it make sense!

    • @Knibal999
      @Knibal999 3 дні тому

      YES. EXACTLY THAT. It's quite insane.

  • @Hoggy27
    @Hoggy27 3 дні тому +5

    100%. Great points as always. Sometimes the Polyphony forgets it’s a game and there should be a balanced element of fun or reward for playing.
    Happy New Year to you and the GT7 community. :)

    • @klockenberg2299
      @klockenberg2299 22 години тому

      for fun many also think more realistic driving physics are not fun too, thus arcades (or something like GRID) are actual fun video games to sims

  • @black82f100
    @black82f100 3 дні тому +7

    The new physics suck the payments suck they just keep shooting themselves in the foot I turned it on collected my free reward looked at the weekly races and turned the game off

  • @strychen
    @strychen 4 дні тому +9

    The Spa 1 hr is easy to get the CRB also.... i ran super clean with a couple wall taps on Mt Pan and lost the CRB.

    • @Celatra
      @Celatra 3 дні тому +1

      it is easy if you have the right setup but 1 hour for 1 million credits just feels like a rob. like. im pretty sure actual races pay out more.

    • @vvoof2601
      @vvoof2601 2 дні тому

      @@Celatra It's easy if you don't have the right setup lol. I won it with stock Gr.3 cars (yeah it's on easy but only for grinding).

  • @JonnyMiddleton21
    @JonnyMiddleton21 3 дні тому +4

    This and the recent Special Events like the Group C Championship races and the DTM ones should have all been put into the game permanently if you ask me. Heck, the Group C Championship and the DTM events should have been their own menu books.

  • @racelegend799
    @racelegend799 3 дні тому +4

    I was definitely disappointed in the payout. I completely agree, if it would have been a good payout, I would have definitely looked forward to exploring doing this event with multiple cars ! It's so sad how polyphony does payouts. 😕

  • @d3vil5dad
    @d3vil5dad 4 дні тому +51

    Polyphony need to replay GT5 and take the entire game and update the cars, tracks and music then release it because then it’ll be prime GT again

    • @sheldoncooper8199
      @sheldoncooper8199 4 дні тому +3

      @d3vil5dad
      That Will of course Never happen. GT 7 is WAAY better Today then i was Like September 2022. You couldnt even Sell Cars back then.

    • @EwetoobSucks
      @EwetoobSucks 4 дні тому

      Exactly !
      GT5 Is Awesome !

    • @henlienr22
      @henlienr22 4 дні тому +9

      @@sheldoncooper8199even though thats true gt7 should never have been that badly thought through.... till this day the singleplayer layout is the messiest uve ever seen from sny racing game... also we were promised 24h races 2 years ago and still nothing, these are things that should have been from the beginning

    • @manostororosso2364
      @manostororosso2364 4 дні тому +5

      *GT4

    • @manostororosso2364
      @manostororosso2364 4 дні тому +3

      Gt5 was pretty bad

  • @therefixframeuproduction1093
    @therefixframeuproduction1093 3 дні тому +2

    Great video as usual. I totally agree with you and this highlights the "pay out system" is completely upside down.

  • @disruptor6550
    @disruptor6550 3 дні тому +4

    They just need to release an event where you can earn GOOD money for EVERY track in the game (obviously adjusting them to a roughly similar credits per hour). It would probably make people play this game a lot more and bring some people back. I'm honestly sick of farming the same 3-4 events for months and months, and I'm sure many feel the same. 95% of events are just worthless sadly, which is very unfortunate since there's so many beautiful tracks and events. But they're not worth grinding because the payout is nonexistent.

  • @derkommentator9999
    @derkommentator9999 4 дні тому +32

    no way i play 1 hour for 140k

    • @r.steele2749
      @r.steele2749 4 дні тому +7

      Totally agree, Why would you when you can get over 1.6 for two 30 minute sessions at La Sarthe.

    • @knochenkotzer456
      @knochenkotzer456 4 дні тому +1

      ​@@r.steele2749 Cause for the Variety.

    • @bigsarge8795
      @bigsarge8795 4 дні тому +1

      Technically, it's 1.1 million with the credit ticket you get from the weekly races, but unfortunately, you only get the ticket once.

    • @derkommentator9999
      @derkommentator9999 4 дні тому +3

      @bigsarge8795 so you get 140k in 1hour

  • @rookietoprobuildz
    @rookietoprobuildz 3 дні тому +5

    7:11 Perfect visual to show how off the payout is, that's insane. I'm curious if the people the work on the game, play the game ..

  • @OldschoolRacer73
    @OldschoolRacer73 3 дні тому +12

    As with all racinggames there are usually 2 camps the grinders and the fungamers. I am a fungamer and I love how this GT opens up with the menu races. When you actually play the game you get lots of cars for free. Do I make the money to get the most expensive cars in the game? Probably not but I will see myself playing this game for years to come with a big smile on my face. I don't grind I race.👍🏻

    • @jr260cc5
      @jr260cc5 3 дні тому +1

      I was a grinder in the beginning. As I did with Sport, I had goals for the cars that I wanted, grinding till I completed the list. Stopped grinding. I completed my list before the weekly challenge was put into the game, so now I just do the weekly challenge for the fun of it. I do wish that they would dump the tickets and go back to giving cars

    • @SidusBrist
      @SidusBrist 3 дні тому

      Same, I have almost all the cars I wanted so I only play for fun, but it would be a lot better for people who actually like grinding credits if they did change something 🥲

    • @rainsilent
      @rainsilent 3 дні тому

      "I love how this GT opens up with the menu races."
      Granted I have played GT3 and 4 a lot but the older games were way, way better than the menus. The menus genuinely felt like an insult to me. Also the older GT games threw cars at you faster than this game does and paid you more relative. It still took quite a while to build up your collection because of the sheer number of cars but it never felt like you ever had to properly grind. This GT does because it is so crap. You don't think it is because either you don't know or don't care, maybe even both.

    • @Celatra
      @Celatra 3 дні тому +1

      as a fan of gt4 and even gt6....gt7 is an insult to previous gt games.

    • @vvoof2601
      @vvoof2601 2 дні тому

      @@Celatra Get a wheel and VR, the campaign leaves some to be desired but the driving is the best of any GT game by a mile (been playing since GT1, wheel since GT4).

  • @trinidad111
    @trinidad111 3 дні тому +13

    It’s very simple why PD does what it does. Most, if not all updates are micro transaction driven if you think about it. None more obvious than the last one with the 20 million dollar merc.
    Then they added all the high priced cars in legendary dealership. Even adding the snow track, that maybe 3% of players wanted, forced you to spend credits for tires (I know it was only 5k a tire but still adds up over an entire collection).
    All the engine swaps, especially the recent release of 3 new cars to put the 1.6 mil Chiron engine in.
    They have metrics and know what people are doing in game as well as micro transactions. Probably data showing how much in micro transactions are spent after an update release. They’re like the government, we know they’re not stupid, they just act like it by not correcting or changing things that need to be based on user feedback.
    That’s why they don’t have high paying events for more than three tracks, to force enough lazy people to spend more money. It must be working

    • @jr260cc5
      @jr260cc5 3 дні тому +2

      I have never bought any credits. Every car, engine swap, and parts I have obtained are from credits earned from grinding.

    • @Knibal999
      @Knibal999 3 дні тому

      @@jr260cc5 we have honor.

    • @trinidad111
      @trinidad111 3 дні тому

      @@jr260cc5that’s great, but thats you. There are plenty of players that will buy credits.

    • @jr260cc5
      @jr260cc5 3 дні тому +2

      @trinidad111 and that's the problem, as long as players keep buying credits the developers will continue to ignore players that wish to have some better and more productive content.

    • @Celatra
      @Celatra 3 дні тому +2

      the issue just is....gt5 and gt6 had microtranscations too. but they didnt hinder the payouts.
      the karting race at autumn ring paid out 115k for 5 laps in gt6 (if you had 200% login bonus), but even without it it still paid out 50+k.
      the redbull x2014 challenges paid out 250k (or smth like that) per 5 laps with 200% login bonus
      online races could payout decenty, not well but better than in gt7.
      in gt6, i actuallly felt like getting the redbul x2011 was worth it. even though it cost 8 million credits. in gt7, getting those 8-10mil credits cars just doesn't feel worth it. i either have to be a god at driving (which i am not) or i have to grind the same tracks like hell for almost no money.

  • @hectorzambrano4092
    @hectorzambrano4092 3 дні тому +11

    This is the sad part: GT7's car modelling is by far the best, and I really mean THE very best to date. Not even NFS Unbound can top it off. Obviously we all know Forza's budget gimmicks. The only reason why GT7 still makes sense to me is the fact that it's detailed as HELL, therefore distracting me from the fact that the game itself is also flawed in some way.

    • @VariantAEC
      @VariantAEC 2 дні тому

      Most of the other racing games have the same game economy flaw. The progress in NFS was less about money, and often, it was most upsetting to not be able to keep using a car you built up for more than a 3rd of the campaign, but it was never a huge deal breaker for the franchise and it wasn't a progress blocker.
      GT7, like some other GT games, also has no real progress blockers either. The only bummer is that it takes forever to fill your garage with every car in the game. This is the first time the franchise's history that the in-game economy, race event variety, and difficulty curve allowed me to do that.

    • @retromaniaco_br7422
      @retromaniaco_br7422 2 дні тому +1

      Despite the economic flaw, GT7 still has enjoyable qualities. I really enjoy the dynamic weather, the car collection, the liveries sharing and editor...

  • @legofury
    @legofury 2 години тому

    I admit, my attention span has significantly decreased since the first GT. Short, quick races are all I can usually hype myself up to enter. But after satisfying my OCD to complete the weekly challenges and doing this hour race, I found myself doing it a second time with a different car just for the enjoyment of driving. Didn't even realize this was something I needed. Hope to see more of these in the future.

  • @mohibsiddiqui8273
    @mohibsiddiqui8273 День тому

    i just completed the 1hr endurance event today with the Mercedes CLK-LM on racing medium tires. If you change the fuel slider to 6 you can complete the first thirty minutes without pitting. ended up completing 30 laps total.

  • @LordRuxpin
    @LordRuxpin День тому

    My favorite grind has been “24 heures du Man” track PP700, its a guaranteed 825k every 30 mins for me. I keep it fresh by building new cars each race. I’m up to 14 different builds.

  • @Ru4real01
    @Ru4real01 2 дні тому

    One thing to note about the weekly race is that the completion reward for doing all 5 events is one million so they did put a little thought into it

  • @nickcorea8162
    @nickcorea8162 4 дні тому +1

    I am on the same page with you of course. Payouts should be based on time and difficulty. That being said, this WTC800 event at Mount Panorama is pretty easy, compared to SPA (with no weather, the player can just grab their 787B at Fuel Map 6 and lap the grid 2-3 times.
    It would be great for PD to do a complete pay-out make-over. For example the "Chili races" should pay out the most... and they don't.

  • @joung_god
    @joung_god 3 дні тому +2

    They should ad the feature to sell your gathered parts. Sell the engines and studs like that

  • @Viperacrx600
    @Viperacrx600 3 дні тому +2

    I definitely just resign myself to never buying a car that costs more than $6M. It’s just too much of a grind to get anything else

  • @KandyRedCoi
    @KandyRedCoi 3 дні тому

    we need more:
    -$ grinding tracks
    -classic/older car races
    -rework of the roulette ticket system
    -better overall $ prizes for all events

  • @DarnellJackson-o4z
    @DarnellJackson-o4z 3 дні тому +2

    One of the things that annoy me the most is getting penalties coming out of the pit. It's unfair you get a 3.000 penalty cutting off a pit line that is controlled by auto drive. And sometimes it becomes repetitious when you do pit and keep getting penalties to where you eventually quit. Lastly. I do agree there should be more credits on long grinds like Spa. Mt. Panorama became quite boring after 10 to 15 laps. Pay up. Make it more enjoyable. Good work sir!

  • @sophdog1678
    @sophdog1678 15 годин тому

    It's the sort of weekly event that makes me realise I won't be completing all five events! Same as if there's a rallycross event - I know I'll just do three events, not five.

  • @solarwarden163
    @solarwarden163 4 дні тому +8

    Agreed, as an average player who struggles to get gold on the online time laps, the course experience time trials etc, it's such a grind trying to earn credits. Currently trying to save 20m to get the 94 Mclaren F1, and it's basically grinding the crap out of the 30 minute 700PP race at Le Mans in the 86 Rally car, the weekly challenges and trying my ass off to grind silver trophies with the online lap trials but it's taking forever and it gets old. There's got to be more creative and different ways to earn credis.

    • @stoopidloopid
      @stoopidloopid 3 дні тому

      Have you tried Sardegna road track with the clan race glitch? Takes about 20/25 mins for 727,500cr. Never not had the clean race bonus and you can use different strategies/cars to mix it up a bit. 787b, lm55 vgt, pikes peak Escudo can all result with a win easily. This is my usual last race to bump up my credits after a blast.

    • @marctunc4880
      @marctunc4880 3 дні тому

      Best of luck for gettin the credits but maybe consider something else for 20 mil and all the effort. The F1 aint worth it imho.

    • @solarwarden163
      @solarwarden163 3 дні тому +1

      @marctunc4880 I'm only getting it to complete my last collection in the menu book smh. Will probably sell it afterwards

    • @solarwarden163
      @solarwarden163 3 дні тому

      @stoopidloopid I'll give that a try. I've been mostly doing Le Man's 700pp for the $825k with the clean race bonus.

    • @cdot2four
      @cdot2four 2 дні тому +1

      Haha I'm doing exactly the same thing. Probably by march I'll have 20 mil saved up. I refuse to grind anymore.

  • @markpearce8191
    @markpearce8191 2 дні тому

    Wow that’s crazy with your comparison of payout when you made the custom race at the same track!

  • @3Xmedic
    @3Xmedic День тому

    One of the big problems with the weekly events especially the DTM races are they don't put power caps or fuel/tire wear. Nothing stopping anyone from just pulling out a 1400hp nismo R32 and lapping everyone.

  • @SidusBrist
    @SidusBrist 3 дні тому +1

    I agree they should rebalance prizes on some events...
    Honestly I found Mount Panorama endurance race a lot harder than the one at Spa because roads are way more narrow and it's a lot harder to overtake.
    Also they really need to add some endurance racing with prototypes, having tracks like Le Mans and Daytona with no endurance races makes no sense, luckily I'm in a point in the game where I don't care about prizes anymore so most of my races are custom races, including a 24 Hours of Le Mans with all the prototypes and some GT3s 😅

  • @OnionBreath
    @OnionBreath 4 дні тому +1

    Thanks for creating content on GT7 mate! I didn't play it for a while, but I think I will give it a go this Sunday after seeing this video.

  • @krazycharlie
    @krazycharlie 2 дні тому +1

    GT7 biggest problem has never really gone away: its stupid always online connection for everything. Does anyone remember the outtage it suffered not too long after it was released? I haven't forgotten. Who's to say it won't happen again? That said, I also agree that the game has zero replayability with those pathetic payouts. These two combined factors are what stop me from buying a game that Sony and Polypony Digital should have made the jewel of the crown but instead made it a $70 P2W uninteresting game for me.

  • @madresidence264
    @madresidence264 3 дні тому +1

    The reason why this race only gives 100,000 credits is because the weekly challenge gives a 1,000,000 credit ticket. Also, for some reason I’m not receiving my credit tickets

  • @josephjoestar995
    @josephjoestar995 3 дні тому +1

    Great video completely agree. How are people currently grinding credits?

  • @SpatialDragon
    @SpatialDragon 2 дні тому

    Spa 1 hr and LeMans 30 minute races also have possible weather. Difficulty is much higher there. Plus if you do this race last and only once you do get a 1,000,000 cr. bonus card.

  • @geraldolson9366
    @geraldolson9366 3 дні тому

    I found last weeks special event with the group C cars much more replay able than this one. I tried to use each group C car in it while it was available. This one I ran twice so I could say I got the clean race bonus.

  • @TheHoodGuru
    @TheHoodGuru 3 дні тому

    I really loved that race. I was thinking I would pause 30 minutes in but did the whole race. I was surprised at the 1 million.

  • @guujigaming
    @guujigaming 3 дні тому

    I just did the 60min race and was very shocked by the awful rewards. When I seek to earn credits, I always go for the WTC800 Spa race because if you drive it cleanly you’ll get about 1.5m credits in an hour. A special event like this should reward more credits, and at least have a similar amount of rewards as the Spa circuit one. I am not driving it again for a mere 140k credits, it’s just not gonna happen.
    And another issue I have is that I keep getting parts I will never use, but I am unable to sell them. And I can’t remove certain cars from the garage because it was given for free (the Toyota ambulance) and thus have no value in used cars dealership.

  • @thattrillYT
    @thattrillYT 3 дні тому +3

    AC Evo will be here soon.. don’t worry

  • @ijustsawthat
    @ijustsawthat 3 дні тому

    Spent 2 days trying this event on hard with the Lexus, finally win it yesterday. It was fun! Sure down for more events like this one.

  • @AwesomeFinish
    @AwesomeFinish 4 дні тому +10

    I often wonder if anyone within PD actually plays this game, like REALLY plays through it like we do. In my honest opinion there should be a good paying grinding event on every single track. There's no reason at all they can't do this. There should just be some kind of formula time + difficulty = payout. A formula used across the board.

    • @tezzabhoy1888
      @tezzabhoy1888 4 дні тому +2

      There cant be a difficulty payout thats practical. Hard difficulty for pd is the AI drivers start 2 weeks ahead. Nobody wants this nonsense. Development is basically over for this game other than adding cars. Gt8 will have sofy Ai, pd could add what you want then. But for gt7 its over.

    • @AwesomeFinish
      @AwesomeFinish 4 дні тому +4

      @@tezzabhoy1888 Whether or not the difficulty is hard enough for YOU or anyone else is irrelevant. They already have events with good payouts. Whatever the formula is for those is what needs to be used across the board.

  • @benupde1979
    @benupde1979 3 дні тому

    I did that special event today. Didn’t pay attention to the payout, assuming it would be better than the 550k for 30 minutes at Leman. Won the race (barely) and discovered the ‘prize’ of 140k 🤦🏻‍♂️
    Definitely a 1 time race. It was fun, and quite challenging, but not enough of a reward to do it again.

  • @rjo78
    @rjo78 3 дні тому

    Thank god i made use of the tomahawk when that was around,rinsed that sucker dry for as much as i could get out of it 😅

  • @capiveintiun
    @capiveintiun 3 дні тому

    And in the same track, you have a RACE that for 7 laps pays you more, it's a gr.4 category, but that makes more sense in my opinion.

  • @codymorrow5003
    @codymorrow5003 3 дні тому

    I completely understand the frustration here, I would like to see more endurance events also, however a lot of people are missing the fact that this isn't a permanent race, and that we're getting a 1mil ticket for completing the 5 races. Just my .02¢

  • @luka7337
    @luka7337 3 дні тому

    I agree with everything you said. However I find it very utopistic. The goal od PD is not to offer us replayability or give us a complete game like 4 was, the goal is to incentivise microtransactions. An hour of my time is worth 1.5m at Spa endurance and there are cars that cost 20 million.

  • @sophdog1678
    @sophdog1678 15 годин тому

    It's also a disincentive to clean driving. You telling me you miss every wall at Bathurst, let alone pass EVERY car cleanly? I sure can't, not for an hour. And I won't bother trying, for just an extra 70k.

  • @ColinLee-ms8ni
    @ColinLee-ms8ni 3 дні тому +5

    The problem these days is people complaining about games appreciate what we have

    • @rainsilent
      @rainsilent 3 дні тому

      When it is watered down to this degree?

  • @True_Outlaw
    @True_Outlaw 4 дні тому +9

    What a missed opportunity for such a good race.

  • @Jeffreygt97
    @Jeffreygt97 3 дні тому

    That 150k payout is just a slap in the face it should be 1M also it's pretty crazy that you get more credits if you make your own race.

  • @hellrthedoomd
    @hellrthedoomd 2 дні тому

    They need to bring back the login bonus you’d get in I think GT5 getting up to like 200% bonus on $ would really bring back players back tbh

  • @bossboyritchno1685
    @bossboyritchno1685 2 дні тому

    You need to do a video on the AI too… they bang on about how great sophy is but I can’t do a single race without the car’s deliberately cutting me off, banging into me every time I pass or just totally swiping me clean off the track! It’s got so annoying Im starting to just turn the damn thing off mid race 🤨

  • @in4mus85
    @in4mus85 3 дні тому

    The new endurance race at Mt Panorama is so fun and the CPU has good pace. It’s a real shame that the payout is so low

  • @krupkeben
    @krupkeben 3 дні тому +2

    Payouts SUCK.. DONKEY, THE daily workout roulette tickets never pay out any higher then the lowest option on the wheel.. always wondered about them keeping track of Micro transactions, I don't see a problem stopping my game play, if all they are worried is my money, they won't get any, I HATE PLAY TO WIN GAMES

    • @Knight-mm7lg
      @Knight-mm7lg 3 дні тому

      It should roulette choose by player

  • @martymart3681
    @martymart3681 3 дні тому +1

    Well, if we are here, I guess it is all about the joy of doin'g it is't it. Then I own the game 2 week ago, and today i've buy the psvr2 to make the joy of competing a bit more joyfull😃

  • @jcskyr33
    @jcskyr33 3 дні тому

    They needed to add weather to that event any time they race at that track rain comes main reason every loves Bathurst

  • @MrWpns24
    @MrWpns24 17 годин тому

    I'm maxed at 100 mil so the racing for me is action and working toward GT7 championship series

  • @CarlosReyes-bk9vy
    @CarlosReyes-bk9vy 10 годин тому

    I don't understand why we can't have our cake and eat it too. There's no such thing as being too generous when it comes to the payouts due to the egregious prices of the most expensive cars in the game. It was their opportunity to give us an incentive to keep coming back, but something always has to give with them, even to the point that defies common sense.

  • @Jack-hi4lo
    @Jack-hi4lo 3 дні тому

    I’d argue it’s hard to judge this one as you get a credit ticket as a reward. I can imagine it would be higher if it wasn’t a weekly event.

  • @DaniMacYo
    @DaniMacYo 3 дні тому

    This race should be permanent and be like Spa we need wet weather at Bathurst and Spa payout. I’d grind on Mount Panorama.
    GT7 needs some new grind races. In fact I don’t even grind anymore it’s the same races over and over so we need some fresh ones to enjoy…. Until we got bored of them 🤣

  • @clarencesedell2232
    @clarencesedell2232 3 дні тому

    the 1st place prize ticket was - 1 million , not bad .

  • @RoccocoVs
    @RoccocoVs 3 дні тому

    All these special events without Sophy just makes me use Tomahawk X to get the event out of the way. Not sure why restrictions are never in place for these, but hard AI is easy after you’ve become used to Sophy and it feels like a chore to play.

  • @hemsworth38
    @hemsworth38 4 дні тому +1

    Would've liked it to be dark a little longer and some rain, did anyone get rain?

    • @jsdoogie
      @jsdoogie 4 дні тому

      No rain for me - only ran the race once.

  • @johng94x
    @johng94x 2 дні тому

    The main problem for me when it comes to GT7 is that it doesn't know what game it is. Is it a racing game? Is it a sim? Is it a car collection game? Is it a driving game? Or is all all of the above in one? I feel like they're trying to hard to be many things at once and honestly I'd rather they focused on being a racing/SIM game in the future.

    • @klockenberg2299
      @klockenberg2299 22 години тому

      is making games like iRacing the only right way to make racing games? can't games be about something else like car encyclopedia?

  • @invertwiley1689
    @invertwiley1689 3 дні тому

    Its such a real shame too, I've been playing for just over a year now. Love the game, been playing GT games since i think GT2 (I remember the Pikes Peak Escudia being fast enough to wall ride almost any track and win). I play this game almost once a week with my dad and my brother in law, almost daily just myself. That said i only JUST finished buying all cars under 16mil MINUS the Lambo Veneno cause PD hates me and won't give me that invite. I recently purchased the Mercedes GT-LM racecar from the Legends tab, it's been in multiple GT games and has been an absolute monster in each one. It aced the Bathurst event without a problem, trouble is I can't race this car with them because of how exclusive it is. That is a shame sadly.

  • @berettagt88
    @berettagt88 3 дні тому

    What's the point in adding a 1hr event that pays 140,000 when 700pp event pays over 825,000 for 30 min makes no since! I did like finishing all 5 events get a 1,000,000 that's a good step in the right direction.

  • @Schnapple_
    @Schnapple_ 3 дні тому

    I feel like Polyphony should add the special events permanently along side an update around a month or two after they were on the weekly challenges

  • @lincolnklayvr
    @lincolnklayvr День тому

    Polyphony Digital put so much effort into perfecting microtransactions they forgot how to make a good racing game

  • @13opacus
    @13opacus 3 дні тому

    Credits are handy but not the be all of the game, more is always better but the race is the highlight.

  • @187Gameplan
    @187Gameplan 3 дні тому +2

    Not worth the credits for the time

  • @philipg7982
    @philipg7982 3 дні тому

    It pays a $1,000,000 ticket as part of the weekly completion. Total payout for me was $1,140,000. That for 1 hour is perfect.

    • @grimm6jack
      @grimm6jack День тому

      If you don't understand that you have to do 4 other events that take about 40 minutes to do total (with menu cruising taken into account) then that million is not part of that race. It's bad.
      If you do the 60 minute race first, you will gain only 140 k and there's no replayability.

  • @LeonardoNicolasNiqqo258
    @LeonardoNicolasNiqqo258 2 дні тому

    And Im still here, wishing they allow you to change car during custom race preparations😭

  • @Alliwantedwasapepsi
    @Alliwantedwasapepsi 3 дні тому

    It never had crash damage and the collisions simulate bumper cars.

  • @brandonchristian7914
    @brandonchristian7914 8 годин тому

    This is why after over 600hrs im moving on to other racing games, ill be back when the economy is fixed.

  • @mikelarocque4221
    @mikelarocque4221 2 дні тому

    Bop is shit. Whatever happened to the original slogan " power is king ? "

  • @LostWayMinistries
    @LostWayMinistries 28 хвилин тому

    I swear I can drive Le Mans 700pp race while I’m sleeping at this point.

  • @mcmondo
    @mcmondo 3 дні тому

    Totally agree lad. This is the first time I haven't been bothered to complete the weekly challenges since its release, simply because it's not worth my time. I did the first three for the credits and having completed all of the others already I didn't see the point with the last two and this is the problem you've highlighted in your video, one step forward, two steps back for Polyphony...or Sony, I mean who's pulling the strings here? Don't get me wrong I'm grateful for everything they give us for free but it is a tad laughable to suggest your own fan base won't work this out.

  • @minners71
    @minners71 3 дні тому

    I stopped griding for money months ago and I feel better for it. I also now have just over 20 million credits and it really didn't seem to take that long.

  • @samuelzhang5741
    @samuelzhang5741 4 дні тому +5

    The Daytona track experience was also nerfed, as the gold time was changed from 47 to 45:5 making it a living hell. I spent like 1 hours grinding this track. I just hate how hard it is to make money faster.

  • @michiniemand7969
    @michiniemand7969 4 дні тому

    well, i would pref. when Poly would make a Payment Rule for each Event Class. Like all 800WTC are set to make 60min/1mil. then you have Variation in the Tracks. also would like, to have more Random Rain or Day/Night Circle in those Races. Just like Spa

  • @Crippledsasquash
    @Crippledsasquash 3 дні тому

    I wouldnt call a 1hr race an endurance thats a sprint race in any series all over the world. I love that there was there finally a longer race tho wish it was a daily race. We have had proper endurance races in the past even a full 24h one ill admit that was a pain in the ass to do but 4h or 8h is an endurance.

  • @Ward413
    @Ward413 3 дні тому

    I adore the Lexus SC430 for 800pp races like this 1hr Bathurst event.

  • @phhzzy
    @phhzzy 3 дні тому

    I did the one hour race. Got 170,000k, no clean race bonus but I thought it was stingy none the less. I feel it should be minimum 500k for taking an hour of my time, plus the ticket.

  • @paulcaola6004
    @paulcaola6004 3 дні тому

    I’ve been struggling with this myself. I enjoy variety. Playing the F/R 550, European 600, Japanese 550. Even those series usually have only the last 2 races paying out.
    There is no payout scale for skill level.
    Why is payout based on PP level and not time invested?
    Why can’t we have more 5 lap, 10 lap races across all pp levels? Wouldn’t it still be enjoyable to have a 10 lap, 650 PP races (no fuel /tire wear so road /street cars can run) that pays out $200-250K ? It would take longer than the current SAR grind , SLIGHTLY less strategy but still payout something worth the time.
    Custom races are a waste for earning $$. If you’re not playing PD’s events; you’re almost loosing money.
    The frustrating part….. This is very fixable !!! If a future update was focused on the economy, race variety and payouts; it would be one of the easiest updates to program/code.
    Great video….thanks for bringing this topic to the front again 👍👍

  • @raebanks2179
    @raebanks2179 3 дні тому +1

    Anyone else’s annoyed that cars are locked behind invitations?

  • @H-4-D3423
    @H-4-D3423 3 години тому

    None of this would ever be an issue if the cars cost 90% less. If all cars were much lower, then low payouts wouldn't matter as the credits would be aligned. If 120,000 credits bought the most expensive cars in the game then a 1 hour blast would more valuable. It's the cost of the cars which is broken, not the pay-outs.