Medical School Ranking - Does Prestige Matter as a Doctor?

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  • Does medical school prestige matter? Will attending a top medical school like Harvard, Yale, or Stanford make you a better doctor? Or are there other factors beyond pedigree that you should consider when deciding which medical school to attend? Let's find out.
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  • @rufussweeneymd
    @rufussweeneymd Рік тому +15

    Idk if you’ve done this, but you ought to do a video on the variables that go into how med schools are ranked. Some of it makes sense, like average test scores of matriculants, but some of it is a little dissociated from what most people consider to be core to becoming a great doctor, like NIH research funding. Great video, as always, Dr. Jubbal!

  • @Davidjparkdo
    @Davidjparkdo Рік тому +267

    Please don’t call IM or FM “lower tier”. They are “less competitive “ but one major reason for that is because of the sheer number of residency positions compared to other specialties, especially the surgical ones you mention. It is this type of rhetoric (conscience or unconscious) that prevents more top students from choosing primary care specialties - what communities all over this country need more of to provide healthcare to Americans. Thank you

    • @tobiajibola3877
      @tobiajibola3877 Рік тому +12

      👏

    • @skirmisher10
      @skirmisher10 Рік тому +28

      Honestly, I think the biggest factor preventing people from going into primary care is the salary. The amount of money you borrow (and with interest) to pursue a medical degree isn't exactly made up when pursuing a career in family medicine. Specialties or anything procedural based is simply better in terms of financial return on investment. Plus, if you're starting a family and need to pay off loans, I feel like you can live comfortably off a FM salary but it's still not as financially sound. I'm biased though as someone going into a "competitive" specialty for residency soon.

    • @tobiajibola3877
      @tobiajibola3877 Рік тому +8

      @@skirmisher10 I guess the bigger question is whether or not medical education needs to be as costly as it is especially if we want to attract underrepresented minorities or candidates who are seeking the lower salaries specialities you mention

    • @mustang8206
      @mustang8206 Рік тому +4

      You haven't seen any of his other videos, have you?

    • @mustang8206
      @mustang8206 Рік тому

      @@tobiajibola3877 Watch his video on why medical school is so expensive

  • @aidenpeirce2940
    @aidenpeirce2940 Рік тому +14

    In short. Top tiers may give you an edge but your metrics also matter.
    Yet the the real ones who suffer are premed students who get weeded out due to the AMA which lobbied for less med school enrollment so we'd have less docs nationally and keep income high. So no it doesnt matter which med school you go to but whether you're willing to engage in years of useless coursework just to get into med school.

  • @KrazyNigerian14
    @KrazyNigerian14 Рік тому +16

    I think for academia prestige matters. For the more competitive specialties, it won't hurt either. That said, where you go doesn't determine if you'll be a good doctor or not. I've had professors who came from Ivy League programs who are terrible teachers and are honestly god awful when it comes to patient interactions

  • @ZafirahMuhammad_
    @ZafirahMuhammad_ Рік тому +1

    You videos are very helpfull and they are GREAT!!!

  • @sangydog3888
    @sangydog3888 Рік тому +49

    As an M4 from a mid-tier school in the middle of residency apps, if you can go to an MD school that is top 50 or even top 25, HUGE leg up. Especially with pass fail step 1.

    • @acd1168
      @acd1168 Рік тому +4

      Really? Why do you say that?

    • @co.m3466
      @co.m3466 Рік тому

      @@acd1168 bc it’s the truth 😂

  • @user-ct3dc6zg9p
    @user-ct3dc6zg9p Рік тому +15

    Is it just me or having 30-50% of program directors considering the title of the University actually sounds huge? The video made it sound like 50-70% of directors don’t care, but that’s like saying most car accidents happen when the passengers have their seatbelts on

  • @elenif4237
    @elenif4237 Рік тому +3

    What's the wisdom on schools that refuse to rank? e.g. Tulane, Loyola-Stritch, Penn State, MUSC, MCW, Creighton? All these schools consistently match students super well - Mayo, Cleveland, etc - but all refuse to submit rankings, and the general consensus is that if they did rank they would be roughly low-mid. Where do these schools sit?

  • @Atl404sFinest
    @Atl404sFinest Рік тому +24

    No. I went to Medical College of Georgia and am doing just fine as an oral Maxillofacial surgeon. 😊

    • @acd1168
      @acd1168 Рік тому +2

      Congrats! I know someone who went there. She is a pediatric nephrologist.

    • @cander6751
      @cander6751 Рік тому +4

      Medical College of Georgia is a fairly prestigious school

  • @PauMaz
    @PauMaz Рік тому +52

    Why in our modern age, with multiple ways to measure candidates (GPA, MCAT, STEP, personal experience, etc) are we still using “recommendation letters” for medical school admission or residency selection? Who you know and who you can get to write letters for you has zero bearing on your ability to be a good doctor. It’s an archaic practice that should be dropped. We have data to measure candidates. We don’t need a creative writing contest.

    • @mustang8206
      @mustang8206 Рік тому +4

      Because they want someone who can be a good doctor not just someone who can take a test

    • @TJ__23
      @TJ__23 Рік тому +10

      @@mustang8206 I don’t think letters of rec are an effective measure of who can be a good doctor. Way too much subjectivity and luck is involved in finding good writers. The multitude of essays and the interview should be sufficient to show someone is a decent, empathetic human capable of being an effective doctor.

    • @MrAwesomeOrb
      @MrAwesomeOrb Рік тому

      I’m not sure about how they’re used in the US. But in Canada, the reference letter is typically to identify any area of concerns of the applicant

    • @TexasGal.
      @TexasGal. Рік тому +3

      I think letter of recommendations provide additional insight and context about a prospective candidate, especially if the writer is presumably someone who knows the candidate well. That’s where some falter; getting someone they hardly know to write the letter. That said, those Likert scale type check box recommendation forms I do think are meaningless. Checking only “Excellent” lends nothing to the conversation; checking anything lower than excellent May hinder the candidate.

    • @thebeatles9
      @thebeatles9 Рік тому

      Verbal and networking skills are worth assessing. Computers cant be doctors.

  • @BuickDoc
    @BuickDoc Рік тому +3

    Where you want to practice is of high importance. If you want to practice in TN, go to school in TN. If you want to practice in PA, go to school in PA.

  • @JustMe-12345
    @JustMe-12345 Рік тому +4

    I like the content
    But the “ad” for your program just shows one of many problems in the USA med school (or entire college) system….

  • @aurorarising1945
    @aurorarising1945 Рік тому +11

    The more I watch this channel, the more I notice how elitist the narrator is. (Ex: consistently talking about lower and upper tier specialty just bc they are more or less competitive)

  • @rosanayikk1235
    @rosanayikk1235 Рік тому +24

    I plan to retire at the end of 2022 at 57 after 36 years in Telecom as a sales engineer. My wife will retire in October 2022 and she's loving life! But walking away from a good income stream and building the nest egg to living from the nest egg is a scary proposition couple with the alarming recession and CPI report

    • @marthatom753
      @marthatom753 Рік тому

      I'm thinking of investing into stocks esp index funds.When you invest into index funds you're essentially investing into the economy as a whole. Because you're choosing to own a little piece of all the most successful companies in the country/world but how are we going to achieve all that given that the market has being a mess most of the year?

    • @stevenvan5104
      @stevenvan5104 Рік тому

      @Paki Ray sure fnancial-advisors are outperforming the market and raising good returns but some are charging much, seeing that their services are currently in high demand more than ever....seems more like taxing to me

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      @kennethdave6671 Рік тому

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      @albertbush9361 Рік тому

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  • @Alfeco-dm7uk
    @Alfeco-dm7uk 26 днів тому +1

    How good and prestigious is george washington university in dc???
    Is georgetown better???

  • @chidimmaokpara4079
    @chidimmaokpara4079 Рік тому +2

    You put every other Ivy expect for Dartmouth :(

  • @mytho9110
    @mytho9110 7 місяців тому

    I’d say med school ranking does matter for competitive residencies, but overall, grades, research, LORs, etc. are more important. A top student from a mid-tier MD with an excellent app is more competitive than a Harvard MD with a mediocre application. Of course, if everything else is equal, then the Harvard name will matter more.

  • @ThePresentation010
    @ThePresentation010 Рік тому +7

    *Had wondered about this.*
    I don't think so.
    But let's see. Let me skip to the end, avoid all the bs and get the answer.
    6:50

  • @Will_walkingW
    @Will_walkingW Рік тому +4

    Solid video, but Orthopaedic Surgery is by far the most competitive specialty with less than a 50% match rate last year. That is wild

  • @planterslefthand
    @planterslefthand Рік тому +1

    Can you do more videos on pharmacy school?

  • @jonathanyammine5557
    @jonathanyammine5557 Рік тому +1

    Hiii

  • @jjktng
    @jjktng Рік тому

    Hi

  • @Dblue-rhino
    @Dblue-rhino Рік тому +14

    A bs/md program is invaluable for preserving character, mental health, social relationships. Especially important for women who need to preserve fertility and become good mothers. The overly competitive nature of top institutions are a long climb for a short slide. Daughter 520 mcat, 3.9 undergrad gpa happy and healthy at a mid range school where she can relax and enjoy medicine without turning it into a boot camp.

    • @edhcb9359
      @edhcb9359 Рік тому +2

      The majority of bs/md programs are at lower tier schools(I’m sure students can convince themselves they are mid) and still require you to keep the types of scores/grades that would enable you to get into a better md program. Really it’s a lot better deal for the school than it is for the student for them to lock up top students into less competitive programs.

    • @Dblue-rhino
      @Dblue-rhino Рік тому +2

      @@edhcb9359 Right- that is what it is for. It is a way for lower/ middle tier schools to up their game. But unless u want a competitive specialty, what difference? Good to be big fish small pond as well. You will shine there with mich less effort and better peace of mind. I taught at middle rank and hi rank med schools. Training was much better at middle rank in this case tho students were much better at hi rank, and very cut-throat.

    • @edhcb9359
      @edhcb9359 Рік тому +1

      @@Dblue-rhino We did the big fish in the small pond thing for undergrad and our son(similar stats to your daughter) had 10 acceptances(ORM). We ended up going with one of the top tiers mostly because the scholarships in the top tiers were phenomenal. We are paying very little to graduate him debt free.

  • @joseloor4762
    @joseloor4762 7 місяців тому

    Ivy League is better

  • @thebeatles9
    @thebeatles9 Рік тому +2

    Should have at least mentioned DO schools, and how all of them dont have much of a prestige factor, and can be considered worse than even a carib MD to some PDs like harvard

  • @maraisfan4life517
    @maraisfan4life517 Рік тому +2

    ABSOLUTELY EFFFING NOT