The Fluent Forever Method: Differences between Anki and our App
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
- A quick discussion about how the Fluent Forever method changes when using our app instead of Anki. More links below:
App Links:
iPhone: apps.apple.com/app/id1408058823
Android: play.google.com/store/apps/de...
Anki Links:
Anki Flashcard Designs for Teaching Yourself: blog.fluent-forever.com/gallery/
Fluent Forever Shop: fluent-forever.com/shop/
Anki Language Learning: ankilanguagelearning.com
More Anki Decks: speakada.com
Reddit's Anki Language Learning Community: / ankilanguagelearning
Anki Software: apps.ankiweb.net/ - Фільми й анімація
Looking forward to this, really need to manage my finances at the moment but I am keeping an eye on this and it looks promising. I can see so many features that hopefully will be implemented one day.
Would love the option to create some super useful flashcards to connect many words into one picture. (E.g. "The slimy frog was sitting on the green lilly pad at the center of the shallow pond last night" - kind of super sentence including many helpful words and grammar and can be represented with really simple image).
And I wish I can have multiple sentences like this for the same word to learn it in different context.
Can't wait to use this.
What inspired you to use the Greek "Psi" letter as your profile picture?
The app and idea is great for the beginning. Crucial for learning pronunciation of a language and definitely recommended for that. Also very good for learning some basic vocabulary and sentence patterns.
Later I find it's faster and more comfortable to work with Anki. There are many extensions like Anki Quick Adder for Chrome were you can create new sentence flashcards by two pushing two buttons without ever leaving the browser, while continuing to read new materials.
That said, already subscribed to Fluent Forever app to learn basis for Korean.
There needs to be something like a 625 word list for fundamental grammar. Like, a collection of sentence and expression types that you apply to any language that covers all basic verb tenses, conjugations, noun declensions (if applicable), various types of expressions, etc. Then you can just drop any of the 625 words into any of the sentences, mix and match and all that.
Problem is that's different for ever language group.
Thank you! I appreciate explaining this significant detail. I'm 3 years behind you on the curve!
@@chrismixlewis Yeah, I assume it hasn't been done because it's a lot more work and each language is a unique set of configurations. It would take a lot of work but I feel like something could be put together that allows you to learn all the basic sentence structures AS you learn the 625. So by the time you know all those words, you also know how to use them in many different contexts and are conversational with them.
Fluent Forever allows you to pick sentences that go with the words but the sentences are kind of random. I suppose someone could do the work of making up sentences along the way themselves.
I actually just thought of a possible way it could be done. There's a guy who put together some huge sentence mining databases for a number of languages for Anki. He organized them in order of complexity as well as word frequency. I'm thinking a similar sentence database could be made that uses all forms of all words (conjugations, declensions, etc.), but of only the words in the 625 list. Sentences would appear only in the same order that the words appear on the FF app, and grammar elements would appear in grammatical frequency order simply by virtue of including all word forms in the frequency list.
I suppose it could be 2 separate "decks'. One of the words and one of sentences. Or sentences could just be spliced in with the words and start appearing once you've learned enough "brick & mortar" type words to build sentences with.
I'm sure algorithms for mining this information so it's not as tedious could be created to draw from raw frequency lists in any language rather quickly.
Oh well though. Guess a guy can dream 🙃
I can't wait to use the app!
Sounds wonderful! But when will you incorporate the ability to import from Anki all of cards, scheduling information and statistics? And what sort of statistics will the app have? When this work is done, that's when I'll gladly jump over. Well done so far!
I came to the right place! thank you so much for explaining
:D
You're very welcome! We're happy to know this was useful to you! 🤩
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Did Gabriel ever say when this app will come out? I can't wait.
Godspeed to Gabriel!
Will there be an App(lication) available for PC or will it be exclusively for smartphones?
Awesome. Two questions though:
Can I make flashcards for all three levels of sentences for a word? (E.g. make the easy, intermediate and advanced card for one word?)
Is there an option to let me skip the pronunciation card step? I've already used my Anki pronunciation trainers that I bought so I wouldn't want to repeat the process but just in a different app. I'll be using Anki and the FFApp in parallel to keep hold of my old cards whilst making new cards in the new app.
Keep up the great work!
Would love the option to use multiple sentences for the same flashcard/word as well. Especially since some words have multiple meanings.
"_____ is the third planet in solar system"
"_____ is one of four elements and often depicted as the opposite of wind"
"_____ is the brown stuff you walk on and plant your vegetables in."
The answer is always Earth but the context is rather different. And plenty of useful grammar.
Also I think that connections are the single most important thing about learning anything aand not forgetting it. The more connections you have to a single word, the easier it is to remember it.
APP not available in Canada. why?
Hi, I have a question. I am studying English and French, but I speak Spanish. Can I learn both languages from my mother tongue?
How do you plan to incorporate grammar? This has been a huge issue in Duolingo, and I want to know if you'll improve on this. Thanks
No app can 'teach' you anything, much less grammar (good books and tutors can). SRS apps don't necessarily teach, they aid memory. That said, I'm sure Gabe would have some prearranged templates (à la Anki) to incorporate example sentences, fill-in-the-blanks, etc.
The sentence flash cards for the 625 words will be without images in the app?
Hi Muhammad, The app will allow you to add your own images much as you would do with Anki. The process is much more streamlined and easy than with Anki, giving you more time to actually learn with the reviews!
Hi is it possible to learn English with the app ?
Apparently my phone isn't compatible with this app... :(
If I can't speak Italian how do I create flashcards?
By taking sentences out of grammar books and easy online resources for beginners. You start with simple stuff and work your way up
You can also find an Italian television show/movie or even a familiar book that's been translated to your language of choice, and then jot down a phrase that interests or challenges you. For instance, I'm familiar with Harry Potter books (and I also enjoy them immensely); so, I have some in a variety of other languages to help me better familiarize myself with sentence structure, grammar, etc.
Hi,I loved your app but I’m learning English. Do you have the option to learn English?
Hi. The beta app does not currently provide materials to learn English but as soon as we have launched our first six languages we will launch the first version of the app for learning English. We will release specific language pairs (i.e. Spanish speaker learning English etc..). If you have any further questions please let us know.
@@FluentForeverApp it's sad that it's been a year since you answered that comment, but there's still no English in the app
any chance on Modern Greek beeing added? its so damn hard with just Anki :)
Hello Wendel! Modern Greek is not within our developing plans, but we're currently working on a feature that will allow you to learn any language through the app, even if it is not supported yet. For more information, please take a look at the following article: help.fluent-forever.com/hc/en-us/articles/360004707891-Will-the-app-be-useful-to-me-if-I-m-learning-a-language-that-s-not-in-the-current-plans-%E2%80%8B%E2%80%8B
Can I purchase your app even if I don't have a bank account?
Might be hard to buy something without a means of paying. (No Bitcoin.)
Do you have a site with this app?
Hello there! You can find more information about our app here: fluent-forever.com/
When is European Portuguese going to be on the app?
Hello Laurie, as of right now, we still don't have plans of releasing European Portuguese. However, we are currently working in a cool feature called "Learn Any Language" which will allow you to learn any language that is not currently supported in the app. Also, you can check what we are working on in our Language Content Development Schedule at view.monday.com/152775401-3fcec2523d528aec8e1f45b1f4379e52
The spanish flash card in 1:18 is weirdly worng.
the word at the top ('gran') is the answer to the flashcard, the word at the bottom ('grande') is a wrong answer
@@Mac_an_Mheiriceanaigh I think that what he's trying to say is that the sentence is wrong, I have never heard someone saying "Soy un marido"
@@Rafael-bj4vl ahhhhh ahora sí os entiendo
i thought you were Michael from Vsauce at the first glance lol
The app is great. Except you need to be fluent in English to use it.
Luckily I am, but other French like me might struggle to us the app.
Its funny that the app doesnt have English
I reckon it was made specifically FOR English speakers.
I prefer the leitner box, there's nothing more memorable then drawing your own stupid/funny little pictures that you thought up yourself.
We can definitely understand and agree that making the words mean something for you and your life is the key to retaining them!
Do NOT order this app! The customer service is horrendous and the app is very weak. Very frustrating experience.
We're sorry to know you feel that way. We're doing everything we can to assist you with your request, and we'll be happy to continue doing so through your open ticket.
I don't know if this is superficial on my part, but I can't take someone seriously as a professional when they have a bushel of chest hair overflowing out of their shirt. It looks unkempt, unseemly, and just dishonorable to the company on whose behalf you're speaking. Either groom a bit better or...I don't know...button that extra button. Sheesh.
Yes very superficial. Are you serious?
What the f?
Was thinking the opposite. The sex appeal sells this product to me.
What ? Hahahahaha you must be kidding right ?
Do NOT order this app! The customer service is horrendous and the app is very weak. Very frustrating experience.