Buddy of mine works in a warehouse, he can see what people are doing every second of the time they were in the building. He can literally tell you anything you did or touched.
It's just pointed inside the the car to make sure the employee is following the rules, it's a single camera inside. Every delivery company has it, and you'd be insane not to want it as an employer
Unfortunately even FedEx and UPS have driver facing cams. It's just that Amazon's netradyne I believe is the most advanced of the 3. Your dsp only has access to the footage if you get into a wreck and have to dispute fault. If the vehicle is in park, they can't just log-in to a live or past feed to see what you're doing. Tip for whodat, just close the cab door if you gotta piss in a bottle
Yeah that's a fantastic thing. Gives the drivers freedom from assumptions of damage and theft. Too bad Doordash doesn't have mandatory surveillance from door to door
If youre doing more interesting job interviews, i work in a swedish maximum security prison as a guard. Id be happy to share what that experience is like
School bus driver here, we have 3-4 cameras on our bus. But that makes more sense because of the safety for children. We aren’t allowed to eat or drink or touch our phones while driving either, though while parked is fine (which happens a lot when waiting for kids).
MORE MORE MORE of this kinda network journalism!! It's so interesting to hear everyone's first-hand experiences and how they describe them (with the camera made it feel like an interview) tells a much fuller story about the workforce. Helps show the value of workers in it's way too :)
I worked as a delivery driver for amazon for 2 years, was really awful. The first few months are wayyy easier compared to later months. They ramp up your packages and deliveries constantly if you are an efficient / good worker, it almost makes it feel like you’re rewarded for slacking off / being slow, as the AI for Amazon will give you way less stops with shorter distance between them because Amazon thinks it takes you a while to make deliveries, but in reality people just bs and run errands / etc. The management doesn’t care, I wasn’t given a raise after 2 years of working and being a top 5 employee out of the 100 within the company, which was the reason I left. The vans were awful and almost always were fucked up, same as what whodat said. There’s almost always lights lit up on the dashboard, some of the vans smell like they’re leaking fuel, some smell like piss, they’re always extremely dirty, they’re super old, always dents, some of the tires are awful but when you bring it up to management they don’t care and just want to make sure it’s barely enough to pass their inspection so you can complete your route.
Funny, I got my first raise after 90days, then shortly after I was on my way to take a management position. Shit was too easy. Sadly outside of work shit happened and I lost my job
@@tomska6788 Really? We were all encouraged to finish as fast as we could but would still have to clock in / out and they were super strict if you got even close to going around 9-10 hours. I was one of the top drivers in delivery metrics as well as the safety metrics.. Our DSP was not the best by far, but paid the most out of the other contractors there so that’s the only reason I joined them.
@@ngdr_hank After the AI Pokimane shenanigans he stopped posting on his main channel as much. They probably just wish it was posted on the main channel instead of the "clips" channel
UA-cam frog here but Big A I work at a law firm in Cali that sues these Amazon companies for wage and hour violations all the time. I’ve spoken to dozens of employees all throughout the state and they have crazy stories. Would love to tell you more about that if you’re interested 👍🏼
In my times of working at Amazon I have pissed in many a bottles. They would either send me to the middle of the city or in the middle of nowhere. And the better you are at the job the more stops they give you. They would give me 190-210 delivery's a day in the middle of nowhere and 250 in the city. And when I would get done early they would still make me do rescue routes. I hate that job with an absolute passion.
Also any amazon drivers, if you tape your phone to your speedometer you can watch movies without having to worry about the camera giving you a distracted driving ding so you can still get your fantastic+ bonus. Also you can put mentor on your own phone and then disable all the functions of it so you can speed without worry
I worked as an amazon delivery driver and quit after 2 weeks. I was making deliveries in a rural area during bad weather when I get a message from amazon telling me to stop working and to take shelter immediately due to a tornado in my area. There was nowhere to shelter, so I just kept working, but a few min later I get a text from dispatch saying I'm 20 min behind and to pick up the pace. When I got back that night the dispatcher told me it wasn't the right job for me and I never went back.
the self control you have to not say anything back is incredible. i just can’t understand another human saying that to your face, no heart in them. hope you’re doing better 🙏
The 'zon is truly a funny company, in that no matter what level of the hierarchy you are, you're stressed and feel like you're getting squeezed. If you work warehouse or delivery, it actually just sucks, as Whodat so kindly described, You might even go, "man, Amazon corporate/engineering must be so much better". But if you get there, it's basically a white collar sweatshop. Widely agreed on as having among the worst work cultures among tech companies. You basically have PIP sword of Damocles constantly hanging over you to fire you if even a short period of sub-average performance comes up. Of course, better than the rank below, and you certainly get paid much better, but still sucks. At this point, you might even go, "man, getting to staff engineer or management must make it so much better", but from what I can tell, it isn't really better. Again, better than the rank below, and you certainly get paid much better, but still sucks and stressful. As you said, many humorous parallels to Parkour Civilization.
That was really cool to hear an inside scoop on what this job is like. The most draconian part to me is the around the clock surveillance. I get maybe having a camera in the back to monitor what packages went where, but to have a camera pointed at the driver and actively monitoring the footage is so creepy and skeezy.
Fun Fact: Bringing one or two Gatorade bottles for your day is godsend. Its keeps you hydrated and the big mouth on the bottle makes it easier to piss in a bottle. (If you ever want to know more inside info, Im happy to share info and even screenshots of different experiences)
One of the saddest stories cut out from this video, was the Amazon app that directs their routes is so wrong all the time and a time waster that impedes their workload - so much that once that Whodat was tasked to drive 2 hours to NOTHING.
I worked in the warehouse. My job as "picker" is mostly done by robots now but I will forever remember walking the football field length warehouse to retrieve an item and then the scanner would send me to the opposite I WAS JUST AT. And then it'd do it again. And again. For hours. Those were the days I wanted to quit. In fact I did quit on a day like that. Just walked up to HR and was like yeah I'm done. I averaged 12 miles a day on concrete floors. Fucked my legs all up. I was really happy when I learned they made robots to do that job instead of continuing to treat people like robots.
The job absolutely blows over Christmas time. Over the summer is chill and nice. Its really just as long as you deliver when the sun is out. When it's cold and youre searching down a country driveway running out of time, it blows. Also, the vans are mid in the snow. Thirdly, and most inportantly, as long as you dont "work hard" i.e. try to do as many stops as possible, its a passable job. The key is to just get by. -Drove a van for like 9 months or something like that and left with recommendations.
Not only does the shitty conditions and workload turn people away but Amazon also hires literally anybody and a lot of people get fired within a week. The amount of new hires that crash the vans in the first week is astonishing and then us good drivers have to drive those shit vans and everyone thinks we’re the stupid ass who destroyed the van pulling up to their house lol.
Things to keep in mind: -Not all Delivery Service Providers (DSP) are the same. Each Amazon DSP is basically a franchise that gets a certain amount of routes a day. There can be multiple ones per warehouse. -Pay is different by DSP. Some DSP will offer pay-per-route (like mine), which no matter at what time you finish they'll pay you the total. Others are hourly. -Pay also includes bonuses from Safety, Reliability, Completion, and one more I can't remember. -Some DSP do incentivise Rescues by offering bonuses for helping. -You can drink and use your hands for other things. You can just not look away from the road. -The Mapping AI sometimes makes mistakes and puts stop 1-10 next to 100+. If you are familiar with your route, you can decide to fix this yourself but it requires a lot of manipulation on the app at the moment you re-route (Cant be changed before you get there) -Each DSP can be a complete different experience. -16:57 The bags are (usually) in order on the carts you grab at the beginning of your shift. You can confirm this before loading the van and usually, you just throw them one by one in that order UNLESS you are making changes to your own route (i.e Deciding to deliver to the last stops first)
god, you seppos live in hell. you couldn't pay me to move to the US. next time around i hope you guys choose to elect someone who gives a semblance of a fuck about what life is like for regular people - and minorities. what a miserable fuckin place man.
just wanting to add why bags may not be in order on the cart!! we are supposed to place them in the order we get them, however a lot of times there will be very heavy and very light bags. pretty much everyone puts the heavy bags on the bottom because if you dont they will be FALLING OFF!!!!
I currently work as a driver and I'll say the last one isn't exactly spot on but it varies station to station. My stations warehouse is terrible. I'll scan my carts line them up in order then start loading and realize my 3rd cart is actually my first and the first bag I'm taking is all the way at the bottom under all the others😂
I have 10 years of warehouse experience (mostly Shipping & Receiving) with small businesses and it's fascinating dealing with delivery drivers. Truckers are hit or miss on whether they are creeps half the time, though it makes sense, their jobs are pretty anti-social especially if they are long distance drivers. UPS is union so they take better care of their employees (seniority is important there). FedEx have the worst trucks I've ever seen, unless they are FedEx Express (which gets the best of everything) or Freight, which are the big money makers of the company. DHL is amazing and high end. USPS have crappy vintage trucks but they get the work done, though they will deny any wrongdoing if a package was lost or miss-delivered. Amazon drivers are a mess and they seem like they have no idea what they are doing most of the time. I never got to know any consistent amazon drivers, so they wouldn't know to ask for water (especially during a hot summer!) or to use the bathroom like other delivery drivers know to do. I guess amazon never learned from established delivery companies that have long term delivery employees. I knew UPS Ground or Fedex drivers that had been with their companies for decades and they love their jobs (they are hard workers).
As an Amazon driver for a little over a year. Your job is always being threatened. Every morning during our standup meetings, we are always being told that most are gonna get cut after peak. It’s honestly hard to feel appreciated and any little mistake will lead to you being reduced, written up, or terminated no matter how well you do. Every DSP varies, but the outcome is always the same. There is no growth.
homie I'll say this.....apply for a federal job, GS5 starting at 19.22 an hour with benefits, damn near impossible to get fired and you mostly work in offices
While this guy working all day, the warehouse employees come in for a 10 hr shift before. So if he starts at 10:30, the shift is 1am-11am for warehouse employees. Rate is about 400 cases an hour sorted into those containers he showed in the van. Loose boxes are considered oversized and go in a different area at the back. Heavy boxes are considered oversize. Heavy is 26 lbs.
Delivery Service Partner (DSP) delivery associates are not actually employees of Amazon. They are outsourced 3rd party contractors through the DSP owner.
@@tomfoolery7777 yes the DSP does better as a business by complying with the goals and metrics set by daddy (amazon) so amazon pulls the strings of the puppet without the direct legal accountability. jeff probably genuinely thought of this set up in his head going back to the 90’s. it’s the world we live in and we are all just doing the best with the cards we get dealt.
As someone who drives delivery vans in Sweden (PostNord), it's cool to hear the similarities and differences between my job and driving for Amazon in the US. 98 stops being considered a light load is insane. 70-90 I would say is normal. Anything past 100 means overtime work. The surveillance cameras in the vans is CRAZY. Ain't no way that would fly with the Swedish legal system. I'm happily chugging from my water bottle whenever I please. The packaging and sorting system is very different. You show up at 7am-ish in the morning and you have your own lane of rolling cages in the terminal, filled with packages that you have to manually sort into the van. Luckily most routes cover 4-12 post codes which makes for a natural sorting system. Often you will get quantities of large packages too big for your van (think 24 XL boxes of diapers for retirement homes), so you'll have to stack them on a pallet and get it over to the truck drivers' goods area. Also means it won't take 20min to load, but rather around 1h30min. Recognize the 3 sets of stairs with multiple packages story lol. We actually got a bit of worker's protection preventing us from delivering any single package over 20kg any further than the ground floor entrance. Doesn't prevent people from ordering 4x 15kg boxes of pet food and us having to carry them all the way up to the third floor however lol. Ah yes, dogs. I actually got a person BANNED from ever ordering packages to his house because of the way he handled his dog. Barely opened the gate and the dog went absolutely rabid barking and growling while running at me, so I had to quickly exit again. Meanwhile the owner was on the porch talking on the phone while his dog was going wild. I was screaming at him, and he completely ignored everything that was going on. Clearly the person on the phone was more inportant than his dog being seconds away from biting my leg. And when he finally came over he was SUPER snarky about the situation, being mad at me for not coming over to the porch and that his dog was "really nice". Hope you enjoy store pickups and being flagged as "negligent pet owner" for the following 10 years buddy. As a Swede, hearing "it gets dark so early, like 5:30" is very cute.
As someone thats worked Amazon: fufillment center, distribution center, and as a driver I'd have to say the worst thing is that they really make you feel like you're less than human. They want you to be a robot and dont give a fuck about you.
It’s crazy how different the tech/managerial side is vs the warehouse/delivery side. Like it’s technically the same company, but one half people want to work for and it’s very chill and good for your career, the other side is dystopian and borderline hell..
yoooooo really fun segment I hope you continue with it. Props to whodat for putting in the work. I'm not a physical work type person, I worked at Avis CS for like a year and i just quit recently, there's a lot of crazy shit that customers have told me trying to get some type of refund or compensation, sometimes even the police would call asking for customer's info. You're supposed to believe the customer but sometimes the situations are just too funny man, I mean they really do say that the fastest car is the rental XD
Amazon's searching for a technicality or any little rule violation in this video for blame to fire him, and he conveniently left a massive f-ing one at that
I have had similar experiences working for the biggest pizzeria chain in my country. Their turnover is so diabolically high that in a month of slaving away at the kitchen I saw like 10 new people come and go.
Worked there since May of this year and can confirm most of this whole video. The daily dispatch routine varies between in the mornings, yes the vans are terrible. My typical day is 160-200 stops. Worst day was 240 stops, not even seasonal (just prime days). With seasonal it’s been 360+ packages and 20+ totes from his pictures. Screw apartments. I’ve lost literally 10-15 pounds since I’ve started, so I have loved that with the solo working. Sadly become less of a dog person. Chased once before off a property. Deal with pit bulls named princess on the regular. Newer dispatchers and buildings require you to take your breaks and lunches. The break is worked into the route. Older dispatching companies hate you for taking your two 15 minute breaks. Claim that you’re going too slow and send a rescue to get you off the route sooner. Basically they want a 20stop/hr minimum with bad routing too, since drawing a straight line on a gps is impossible for them. I dread rescues because I feel like I’m able to do my own route easily and then I am tired and have to do somebody else’s. The cameras are ridiculous too! Like they give no slack or relief to situations. If you’re crossing a 6 lane intersection and the green light turned red while in the middle of it behind traffic you’re dinged for “running” a red light. Like they want me to slam on my breaks in the center of the busiest intersection!? Big brother is watching, don’t have any issues eating or drinking though. Never dealt with that strict of a camera Buuuut I finally have a new job lined up. Took amazon to pay bills while on the hunt for something better. o7 Whodat
As someone who worked in a similar job as Whodat. What I used to do is to open the passenger door to the truck, pretend I am writing a notepad, and just whip it out and pee. The best days are where it's raining and it's impossible to tell. Sometimes times you just gotta go.
the crazy thing is the working hours even outside the US seem crazy long, here in my country I believe it's policy for the DHL guys to stop work by 4PM, like they'll even cancel their route if they have packages left in the van and just drive back to the delivery point, but the Amazon guys are still out delivering by 9PM 😭
23:00 as someone who essentially did those job prior to amazon taking over everything, You do get a workout for the first while. And then you're almost guaranteed to eventually get a RSI from the bending and annihilating a disc which never heals properly because you don't get enough time off from the very thing that injured it. 11/10 would recommend.
2015-2017 I worked a FedEx route as a Jumper (basically passenger who helps run packages for a driver who does half the work with you), a typical holiday work day between November to January was about 150-180 stops or packages. Closer to Xmas it went up to 180-220 stops or packages, so basically the entire FedEx truck is full, every inch is filled with packages. Granted this was the days before there were Amazon delivery trucks so FedEx was doing most of the Amazon deliveries. Don’t know if it’s any better in 2024 tbh.
I worked as a delivery driver for 9 months a few years ago, this was a fun little trip down memory lane lmao. I got bit by dogs twice, saw multiple people quit mid route and I had to finish it, was told I was gonna get promoted to dispatcher but then they ghosted me, got into multiple fender bender accidents, and once stayed out til 10 pm trying to deliver packages in the sticks. On the plus side I was in the best shape of my life and I only had to piss in a bottle once. Good times.
1:48 when i was working at amazon they said and i quote "we have a 300% turnover rate" basically translate to one out of 30 people ends up staying for more than a couple months
I did Amazon delivery in 2020 and honestly your treatment depended on your DSP. We weren’t actually employed by Amazon we were employed by a third party that has their own trucks and everything and they get paid per package. My DSP was super chill and they weren’t all over us monitoring us every second they didn’t care. I used to chill for half an hour and nobody ever noticed
Did Amazon delivery for a month or two when I needed a quick job, only good thing about it was the 20 pounds I lost from the insane amount of work. There's no other company that is so disconnected between creating policies and what it is like to actually work within those policies. They give you way too much work, and every rule they create for you makes that work less and less possible to complete.
I’ve been at this job for a year while going to school FT. The only bad thing about this job is running into rude customers (which is rare) but obv. depends on your area, and routes getting reduced which leads to drivers only having 3 shifts a week (instead of 4-6) which gives you only 27-30hours on a paycheck. This slowdown ALWAYS happens after holiday shopping is over in January-Feb, then the volume picks back up in March. Dsps also vary drastically with how good/bad mgmt is, so you can find both a great and terrible dsp operating out of the same Amazon station.
I was a delivery driver for a year. He's spot on. Quit March of 2024. Nothings really changed it seems. Other than at my DSP (Delivery company) rescues are forced, if you decline you may lose shifts or be fired. I was a top performer for my DSP. I consistently had the hardest route and one day. My absolute worst, had 450 packages on the dot. Where our managers actually had to help me because I said i refuse. I will not do that. Normal HEAVY loads are around 300 packages. I said im not taking the worst spot in my city, worst being the hardest and most apartment dense and that many packages. Also while i drove my driving buddies would call eachother all day while we delivered. That was the apex. Winters suck so much in my snowy climate. Still think about going back and it's been a year. We had a 10 hour guarantee, no matter how fast you were you got paid 10 hours. I frequently finished 5 hours in because I sprinted my entire route. Never stopped moving, never taking breaks. Fantastic system if you're willing to bust your ass.
6:52 “I would have peed on the floor outside” Um you mean the ground? Or dirt, grass, bushes etc? Thats not called a “floor”. Thats how you can tell someone hasnt touched grass in a very long time when they literally call “grass” the “floor”
My younger cousin worked as a temp years ago for Amazon Warehouse for Christmas. Then every busy period since they contact him to come for short contract work. He just says I will work X days/X hours for x euros. Last christmas he was getting 40€/hour.
I did Amazon as a driver, and we had to do about 500+ packages by the end of the day. The start time was 9:30 am, managers would get there after 11am, so we are waiting for a few hours. The route began at noon due to the managers taking their time. They would give us the assigned van that looked like it went through a warzone. We did the "check" and pulled up the van to the ramp to get the packages and box bags. We had to be back by 8pm sharp. They ALWAYS sent me out to the boonies, so it took 2 hours from Spring, Texas, to where I had to go, and 2 or more hours back to base. Almost everyone was a complete jerk. The vans broke down when it was too hot, and I passed out once because it was 115 degrees one day after the van a/c broke, then the van broke down in a bad area. I called in, saying what happened to dispatch after 3 hours of being so sick. When one of the leads came, we grabbed the bags and boxes and put them in his van, and left the busted van for the tow truck. We completed both our routes in his van.
Ive been working for a dsp for like 2 years that delivers in west baltimore (park heights) and it feels like im getting deployed into a war zone every time. I get bit by fleas constantly if i walk in the grass and the itchyness from thier bites stay for like 3 to 4 months. Ive witnessed more crimes on these routes than i did on a ride along with a police officer in a day, from people crapping on the side walks to people getting chased and attacked with weapons. If it isnt peak season you sometimes arent even guarenteed work for the day you come in, unless youre a veterain and favored by dispatchers. The only reason im still working this job is because it keeps me in shape and ive got a solid position within my company at this point. Ill be quitting as soon as i get my associate degree in college.
I've I've been in a whirlwind all day going back and forth on whether or not I should take a DSP job and leave my current job as a poop scooper. Based on everything I've heard despite the longer days and so many stops it sounds almost easier than what I do now. I already pee in bottles, get attacked by dogs, griped at by customers, I take no lunches or breaks and just eat on the go. Most other employees last no more than a few weeks or months and I've stuck it out for 5 years so ready or not Amazon here I come.
I got hurt at Amazon last year in December 2023 doing this job in dislocating my left knee going up and down the apartment complexes all day long. I have mostly healed but there's still mobility issues from my knee unable to extend out like you'd normally be able to kick your legs out quick before standing. Also can't descend down stairs safely in full moment with my bodyweight on it. These people denied my surgery to get the piece of cartilage floating around in my knee and I'll have to eventually pay for a surgery on my own to get it. I just bought some peptides to see if I can finally run again and go up and down stairs without problems. I don't recommend working as a DSP driver for Amazon directly rather I would have done Amazon through Flex instead and find a different job.
I'd like to say that FedEx operates the same way. They hire 3rd party contractors that buy all the trucks, are responsible fir hiring people to deliver, etc. They pay you like trash because they also need to make money to take care of all the equipment. UPS is unionized and pays triple the amount that fedex drivers make. THIS is why unions are so important. I'm happy to see some people are realizing this
I feel bad for bro. He's doing this at this stage of his life. Atrioc trying to make it seem like he's undercover but he said he has to pay his rent. He needs this.
I thought the "undercover" bit was meant to obviously be a joke. Like, I thought we all were supposed to obviously know he actually did it as his real job?
He knows Whodat needs it, dude. Pretty sure they're good friends. He's just trying to make the situation lighter for everyone here with the undercover stuff, then saying it's not as hard as streaming and so on.
Homeboy, I'm 49 and so this full-time. Yeah man, sometimes life just sucks no matter your choices. Hell, I have a degree in economics, and enough college credits for multiple degrees, but never had an internship, so here I am. I know now why the old don't fear death.
I would love to tell you about the Chipotle work experience. It's absolutely insane over here in New England. Higher ups fired and taking extended vacations, nobody getting written-up, callouts like crazy.... Corpo not letting our store open later because "it looks bad" even if we dont have any food to put it. It's grueling on days when you literally dont have enough people because they expect you to do all of the prepwork with like 2 or 3 people.. OTL
I worked in Distribution for half a year as a team trainer and lead for the exact same pay as an employee starting. This sounds crazy better than whatever the fuck i experienced. As WhoDat said with him looking at his phone. in warehouse, that phone is your boss, and your HR. It is what defines if you have a job or not. I would get alerted if an employee was not scanning a package for 45 seconds. then i'd get told to talk to said employee about their performance, most times it would be them in the restroom. amazon does not want workers, they want human robot.
I worked for a warehouse job this year (assembly work) they lied about the schedule, didnt have enough tools for me and many other workers, i saw entire groups of employees, not entire departments, but damn well close walk out and be replaced the next day. Shits fucked but they got all the power and people dont even understand how bad it is. And whats worse is there are even worse jobs. Had a coworker who used to make bricks. Like 13/hr out in the open 12 hour days. So he was at a better job than what he had. He would start drinking as soon as he got in his car at the end of the day. When they uped the hours from the advertised 50 - 60 week, 10hr days to mandatory 72 week 12 hr days. I only went in 5 days a week and the contractor i was with said, "its mandatory. So can you please quit?(cuz we dont want to pay unemployment) " "Sure i cba"
holy shit i can relate to this, i used to intern att swedens worst terminal(its known as that to lorrydrivers) and the only difference between that internship and amazons working conditions is that in DSV you got asigned 1 car that you just had to use and it is legaly required of you to take a 45 min break(you usually just set it to break and continue working).
I don't work for Amazon but I saw dog bite mentioned in the thumbnail and I work a similar job where I got bit by a dog on my arm just recently. honestly, I thought it would have hurt more than it did. I got really lucky though, i only ended up with one gash in my arm because he bit my arm over my sweater, which doesn't even have a hole in it. finished my route and left an hour early, got steristrips, back at work the next day. still waiting for them to finish falling off, can't wait to see the scar
I worked Amazon too 3 months max and my DSP only paid 16.50. main take aways from working there. 1. your performance is measured against an algorithm, and the better you do the more workload you get. until you quit. 2. You WILL have to piss in a bottle, even the women Drivers if you are trying to make the so-called "good time". 3. The Surveys are to measure how fed up you are with the Job, they aren't anonymous, no corporate survey is. 4.Finishing your route early never means you're done for the day. never expect to get home early. 5. they want you to "drive safe" on paper but your algorithm and DSP will imply otherwise.
Late to the party here, but I have a fun tangent to this: I work as a Service Advisor at a large Ford Dealership. We service a ton of Amazon vans, and every single one of them is always a complete cluster fuck. This mostly is because they have in-house maintenance for minor things, but it's amazing the amount of abuse the drivers put on these vans. It's cyclical, because once a van becomes damaged, the next driver in it is less likely to care as much, so things go unreported and get worse.
One of my best friends started his own business that does third party deliveries for Amazon in the Phoenix area. He was explaining to me how there's actually competition between his and other companies on who gets to cover what/how many zip codes. Also ever since he started doing this I barely see or hear from him. When he was a groomsman at my wedding I only got him for about 6 hours. Also he had a broken foot after something happened delivering a refrigerator, but was still working lol.
I love comparing this to my experience at fedex, how little time Amazon workers have and how supervised they are, and im just over here at fedex getting a 2 hour lunch break, not tracked hardly at all, great stuff.
As someone who's been there about the same amount of time so far I understand this. My first day they didn't give me a ride along and I had to wait a bit because of my other job so all the video training I had I was trying to remember. But instead of doing a drive along I pretty much was told to figure it out, it was pouring rain and they sent me on dirt and sand roads. I got stuck for 4 hours because I thought I could make it through the road it was gonna send me. They even knew too that the road was bad because I wasn't the first one to get stuck there. Then the following 3 weeks after I only got 2 days a week if I was lucky
I work as an Amazon manager at a delivery station (low-level, not like corporate or anything) and honestly.. it's got it's merits. Worst part about being an amazon manager for a delivery station is you're expected to basically do every other function than just manage the shift, like even though we have a "Safety" and "HR" team, managers still deal with and fix safety concerns (which is fine) but then we also have to handle the reports unless our safety likes us. You'd think HR would be there to help answer AA's questions for time or personal related issues impacting their work... nope that's me. Oh and as salaried, we have no daily/weekly hourly cap so if I get too busy doing other things and then we don't finish the shift, I have to work ~13+ hour days 5-6 days a week depending on the time of year :)
Used to be a service coordinator/manager for a home repair company. This workers were taken advantage of and exploited. I felt bad for them, tried to work with upper management to get things to work better, but my immediate boss gave no fucks and wanted them to work more. She would always say how hard she worked (even though she got in last, and left before anyone else) and she would make sure to squeeze every penny she could out of everyone and everything. She would get in agreements with people (including me) where should would start doing X and we would start doing Y. Except she never held up her end and still got pissed that Y wasn’t happening. But don’t you dare mention X to her, she’s too busy to remember everything. Sorry this is a rant about myself now, but I feel bad for this dude. Even from the dispatcher side you can see how much shit sucks but the C-Suites will either force you to do whatever crazy expectation they have or get rid of you and tell everyone had much of a problematic worker you are.
One of the biggest tech companies in the world couldn't figure out the traveling salesman problem, something first studied by mathematicians like 200 years ago. Crazy.
Two Amazon employees talking to each other. One has a truly difficult career, and the other drives a nice truck.
Working two jobs to make ends meet is truly dystopian so I feel like we need to give more respect to the guy working for both Google and Amazon.
It’s quite obvious who’s who
Buddy of mine works in a warehouse, he can see what people are doing every second of the time they were in the building. He can literally tell you anything you did or touched.
@@jaredchamberlain5709 Bro got that 3rd eye vision, recon drone in the air type shit
@@crangel4246why lol, they work for Amazon. That's what an employee is
This level of employee surveillance is genuinely insane. Like you can't even piss in a bottle because there is a camera pointed at you
Taking our most basic rights
It's just pointed inside the the car to make sure the employee is following the rules, it's a single camera inside. Every delivery company has it, and you'd be insane not to want it as an employer
Unfortunately even FedEx and UPS have driver facing cams. It's just that Amazon's netradyne I believe is the most advanced of the 3. Your dsp only has access to the footage if you get into a wreck and have to dispute fault. If the vehicle is in park, they can't just log-in to a live or past feed to see what you're doing. Tip for whodat, just close the cab door if you gotta piss in a bottle
Yeah that's a fantastic thing. Gives the drivers freedom from assumptions of damage and theft.
Too bad Doordash doesn't have mandatory surveillance from door to door
Fight for your piss bottle rights!!!
If youre doing more interesting job interviews, i work in a swedish maximum security prison as a guard. Id be happy to share what that experience is like
this would be a good video
down can you reach out to Dominic on the Marketing Monday discord to help get it scheduled ?
Congrats on getting Big A’s Big A(ttention)!
@@Dah_jeff glaze lol
School bus driver here, we have 3-4 cameras on our bus. But that makes more sense because of the safety for children. We aren’t allowed to eat or drink or touch our phones while driving either, though while parked is fine (which happens a lot when waiting for kids).
MORE MORE MORE of this kinda network journalism!! It's so interesting to hear everyone's first-hand experiences and how they describe them (with the camera made it feel like an interview) tells a much fuller story about the workforce. Helps show the value of workers in it's way too :)
Whodat is a streamer he did this to see what conditions were like for video purposes specifically
@@wildmoose3979he said he needed rent 😂
@electron6825 I deeply apologize i clicked off the video to play a game of online poker (I lost my entire college fund)
I worked as a delivery driver for amazon for 2 years, was really awful. The first few months are wayyy easier compared to later months. They ramp up your packages and deliveries constantly if you are an efficient / good worker, it almost makes it feel like you’re rewarded for slacking off / being slow, as the AI for Amazon will give you way less stops with shorter distance between them because Amazon thinks it takes you a while to make deliveries, but in reality people just bs and run errands / etc.
The management doesn’t care, I wasn’t given a raise after 2 years of working and being a top 5 employee out of the 100 within the company, which was the reason I left.
The vans were awful and almost always were fucked up, same as what whodat said. There’s almost always lights lit up on the dashboard, some of the vans smell like they’re leaking fuel, some smell like piss, they’re always extremely dirty, they’re super old, always dents, some of the tires are awful but when you bring it up to management they don’t care and just want to make sure it’s barely enough to pass their inspection so you can complete your route.
This shit is like lethal company fr fr
Funny, I got my first raise after 90days, then shortly after I was on my way to take a management position. Shit was too easy. Sadly outside of work shit happened and I lost my job
It sounds like the DSP team you had was bad. A lot of the ones at my station will pay the drivers for 10 hours even if their route takes less.
@@tomska6788 Really? We were all encouraged to finish as fast as we could but would still have to clock in / out and they were super strict if you got even close to going around 9-10 hours. I was one of the top drivers in delivery metrics as well as the safety metrics.. Our DSP was not the best by far, but paid the most out of the other contractors there so that’s the only reason I joined them.
@@crangel4246 I’ve got 3 years
This would've been a perfect main channel video 2 years ago
still is ngl
tf does this even mean lol
i miss old atrioc videos
@@ngdr_hank After the AI Pokimane shenanigans he stopped posting on his main channel as much. They probably just wish it was posted on the main channel instead of the "clips" channel
@@SozyV2 oh, i didn't follow any of that. i don't give a shit about drama, that's for him and Ari to deal with
UA-cam frog here but Big A I work at a law firm in Cali that sues these Amazon companies for wage and hour violations all the time. I’ve spoken to dozens of employees all throughout the state and they have crazy stories. Would love to tell you more about that if you’re interested 👍🏼
Please please please get this guy on!
WE NEED THIS
Glad they're getting sued.
The 1984 poster is FUCKING insane.
Especially since it foreshadowed 😂
I wonder if amazon or an employee put that up
In my times of working at Amazon I have pissed in many a bottles. They would either send me to the middle of the city or in the middle of nowhere. And the better you are at the job the more stops they give you. They would give me 190-210 delivery's a day in the middle of nowhere and 250 in the city. And when I would get done early they would still make me do rescue routes. I hate that job with an absolute passion.
Also any amazon drivers, if you tape your phone to your speedometer you can watch movies without having to worry about the camera giving you a distracted driving ding so you can still get your fantastic+ bonus. Also you can put mentor on your own phone and then disable all the functions of it so you can speed without worry
So keep workin in it? Is the pay the only thing that make it worth it?
Please don't watch movies whle driving. That attitude is what gets bystanders killed!
If they give you more stops, does your pay increase accordingly? Or is this one of those situations where you're being punished for being efficient?
@@a_stray_dog You just get punished for being effecient
I also work for a thirdparty and stuff is dystopian af, honestly even the presentations during training felt like a medieval order from the nobles
Come work for UPS we have a union so its harder for you to individually get screwed
I worked as an amazon delivery driver and quit after 2 weeks. I was making deliveries in a rural area during bad weather when I get a message from amazon telling me to stop working and to take shelter immediately due to a tornado in my area. There was nowhere to shelter, so I just kept working, but a few min later I get a text from dispatch saying I'm 20 min behind and to pick up the pace. When I got back that night the dispatcher told me it wasn't the right job for me and I never went back.
I don't think that was the right job for anyone lol
the self control you have to not say anything back is incredible. i just can’t understand another human saying that to your face, no heart in them. hope you’re doing better 🙏
Working at Amazon is like parkour civilization, you think the next level up is where it's at, but you get there and it's still shit
one floor up delivery for the beef.
You know the rules, noob. You can either do the city delivery to piss in the bottle, or the rural delivery to piss in the field.
The 'zon is truly a funny company, in that no matter what level of the hierarchy you are, you're stressed and feel like you're getting squeezed.
If you work warehouse or delivery, it actually just sucks, as Whodat so kindly described, You might even go, "man, Amazon corporate/engineering must be so much better". But if you get there, it's basically a white collar sweatshop. Widely agreed on as having among the worst work cultures among tech companies. You basically have PIP sword of Damocles constantly hanging over you to fire you if even a short period of sub-average performance comes up. Of course, better than the rank below, and you certainly get paid much better, but still sucks. At this point, you might even go, "man, getting to staff engineer or management must make it so much better", but from what I can tell, it isn't really better. Again, better than the rank below, and you certainly get paid much better, but still sucks and stressful.
As you said, many humorous parallels to Parkour Civilization.
That was really cool to hear an inside scoop on what this job is like. The most draconian part to me is the around the clock surveillance. I get maybe having a camera in the back to monitor what packages went where, but to have a camera pointed at the driver and actively monitoring the footage is so creepy and skeezy.
Fun Fact: Bringing one or two Gatorade bottles for your day is godsend. Its keeps you hydrated and the big mouth on the bottle makes it easier to piss in a bottle.
(If you ever want to know more inside info, Im happy to share info and even screenshots of different experiences)
Holy shit, we need to deport all migrants so you can finally unionize.
I have become very skilled at pissing in 2-liter bottles. You can get 2-3 uses out of those usually
Yes please send pics of your piss bottles
I want to see ur piss bottle collection
We get fired in my DSP if we piss in bottles.
One of the saddest stories cut out from this video, was the Amazon app that directs their routes is so wrong all the time and a time waster that impedes their workload - so much that once that Whodat was tasked to drive 2 hours to NOTHING.
I worked in the warehouse. My job as "picker" is mostly done by robots now but I will forever remember walking the football field length warehouse to retrieve an item and then the scanner would send me to the opposite I WAS JUST AT. And then it'd do it again. And again. For hours.
Those were the days I wanted to quit.
In fact I did quit on a day like that. Just walked up to HR and was like yeah I'm done.
I averaged 12 miles a day on concrete floors. Fucked my legs all up.
I was really happy when I learned they made robots to do that job instead of continuing to treat people like robots.
The job absolutely blows over Christmas time. Over the summer is chill and nice. Its really just as long as you deliver when the sun is out. When it's cold and youre searching down a country driveway running out of time, it blows.
Also, the vans are mid in the snow.
Thirdly, and most inportantly, as long as you dont "work hard" i.e. try to do as many stops as possible, its a passable job. The key is to just get by.
-Drove a van for like 9 months or something like that and left with recommendations.
This is actually such a good interview lmao I’ve always wondered what was so horrible about Amazon to make their quit rate so unbelievably high
Not only does the shitty conditions and workload turn people away but Amazon also hires literally anybody and a lot of people get fired within a week. The amount of new hires that crash the vans in the first week is astonishing and then us good drivers have to drive those shit vans and everyone thinks we’re the stupid ass who destroyed the van pulling up to their house lol.
Things to keep in mind:
-Not all Delivery Service Providers (DSP) are the same. Each Amazon DSP is basically a franchise that gets a certain amount of routes a day. There can be multiple ones per warehouse.
-Pay is different by DSP. Some DSP will offer pay-per-route (like mine), which no matter at what time you finish they'll pay you the total. Others are hourly.
-Pay also includes bonuses from Safety, Reliability, Completion, and one more I can't remember.
-Some DSP do incentivise Rescues by offering bonuses for helping.
-You can drink and use your hands for other things. You can just not look away from the road.
-The Mapping AI sometimes makes mistakes and puts stop 1-10 next to 100+. If you are familiar with your route, you can decide to fix this yourself but it requires a lot of manipulation on the app at the moment you re-route (Cant be changed before you get there)
-Each DSP can be a complete different experience.
-16:57 The bags are (usually) in order on the carts you grab at the beginning of your shift. You can confirm this before loading the van and usually, you just throw them one by one in that order UNLESS you are making changes to your own route (i.e Deciding to deliver to the last stops first)
god, you seppos live in hell. you couldn't pay me to move to the US. next time around i hope you guys choose to elect someone who gives a semblance of a fuck about what life is like for regular people - and minorities. what a miserable fuckin place man.
This is a perfect explanation of how it really is
This is a perfect example of anti union practices to further harm the worker WORK FOR UPS FUCK AMAZON
just wanting to add why bags may not be in order on the cart!! we are supposed to place them in the order we get them, however a lot of times there will be very heavy and very light bags. pretty much everyone puts the heavy bags on the bottom because if you dont they will be FALLING OFF!!!!
I currently work as a driver and I'll say the last one isn't exactly spot on but it varies station to station. My stations warehouse is terrible. I'll scan my carts line them up in order then start loading and realize my 3rd cart is actually my first and the first bag I'm taking is all the way at the bottom under all the others😂
This seems like a perfect job... for a robot
I have 10 years of warehouse experience (mostly Shipping & Receiving) with small businesses and it's fascinating dealing with delivery drivers. Truckers are hit or miss on whether they are creeps half the time, though it makes sense, their jobs are pretty anti-social especially if they are long distance drivers. UPS is union so they take better care of their employees (seniority is important there). FedEx have the worst trucks I've ever seen, unless they are FedEx Express (which gets the best of everything) or Freight, which are the big money makers of the company. DHL is amazing and high end. USPS have crappy vintage trucks but they get the work done, though they will deny any wrongdoing if a package was lost or miss-delivered. Amazon drivers are a mess and they seem like they have no idea what they are doing most of the time. I never got to know any consistent amazon drivers, so they wouldn't know to ask for water (especially during a hot summer!) or to use the bathroom like other delivery drivers know to do. I guess amazon never learned from established delivery companies that have long term delivery employees. I knew UPS Ground or Fedex drivers that had been with their companies for decades and they love their jobs (they are hard workers).
As an Amazon driver for a little over a year. Your job is always being threatened. Every morning during our standup meetings, we are always being told that most are gonna get cut after peak. It’s honestly hard to feel appreciated and any little mistake will lead to you being reduced, written up, or terminated no matter how well you do. Every DSP varies, but the outcome is always the same. There is no growth.
Bro please get a better job stop wasting precious time and energy in a place like that
homie I'll say this.....apply for a federal job, GS5 starting at 19.22 an hour with benefits, damn near impossible to get fired and you mostly work in offices
0:44 bros definitely getting fired by the end of this one 😂
While this guy working all day, the warehouse employees come in for a 10 hr shift before. So if he starts at 10:30, the shift is 1am-11am for warehouse employees. Rate is about 400 cases an hour sorted into those containers he showed in the van. Loose boxes are considered oversized and go in a different area at the back. Heavy boxes are considered oversize. Heavy is 26 lbs.
Wish this was a main channel video ngl, otherwise awesome interview. Hope people can support whodat more so he doesnt have to do that job
Delivery Service Partner (DSP) delivery associates are not actually employees of Amazon. They are outsourced 3rd party contractors through the DSP owner.
DSP GAMING DSP GAMING DSP GAMING
They mention this around 12:40
true
but they’re still associated heavily
@@tomfoolery7777 yes the DSP does better as a business by complying with the goals and metrics set by daddy (amazon) so amazon pulls the strings of the puppet without the direct legal accountability. jeff probably genuinely thought of this set up in his head going back to the 90’s.
it’s the world we live in and we are all just doing the best with the cards we get dealt.
As someone who drives delivery vans in Sweden (PostNord), it's cool to hear the similarities and differences between my job and driving for Amazon in the US.
98 stops being considered a light load is insane. 70-90 I would say is normal. Anything past 100 means overtime work.
The surveillance cameras in the vans is CRAZY. Ain't no way that would fly with the Swedish legal system. I'm happily chugging from my water bottle whenever I please.
The packaging and sorting system is very different. You show up at 7am-ish in the morning and you have your own lane of rolling cages in the terminal, filled with packages that you have to manually sort into the van. Luckily most routes cover 4-12 post codes which makes for a natural sorting system.
Often you will get quantities of large packages too big for your van (think 24 XL boxes of diapers for retirement homes), so you'll have to stack them on a pallet and get it over to the truck drivers' goods area. Also means it won't take 20min to load, but rather around 1h30min.
Recognize the 3 sets of stairs with multiple packages story lol. We actually got a bit of worker's protection preventing us from delivering any single package over 20kg any further than the ground floor entrance. Doesn't prevent people from ordering 4x 15kg boxes of pet food and us having to carry them all the way up to the third floor however lol.
Ah yes, dogs. I actually got a person BANNED from ever ordering packages to his house because of the way he handled his dog. Barely opened the gate and the dog went absolutely rabid barking and growling while running at me, so I had to quickly exit again. Meanwhile the owner was on the porch talking on the phone while his dog was going wild. I was screaming at him, and he completely ignored everything that was going on. Clearly the person on the phone was more inportant than his dog being seconds away from biting my leg. And when he finally came over he was SUPER snarky about the situation, being mad at me for not coming over to the porch and that his dog was "really nice". Hope you enjoy store pickups and being flagged as "negligent pet owner" for the following 10 years buddy.
As a Swede, hearing "it gets dark so early, like 5:30" is very cute.
As someone thats worked Amazon: fufillment center, distribution center, and as a driver I'd have to say the worst thing is that they really make you feel like you're less than human. They want you to be a robot and dont give a fuck about you.
Hey Ornq. Interesting to see you here lol
@@militaryhare4963 yoo thats crazy lol i wouldnt have recognized your account :p but yea Atrioc is one of my favorite youtubers
It’s crazy how different the tech/managerial side is vs the warehouse/delivery side. Like it’s technically the same company, but one half people want to work for and it’s very chill and good for your career, the other side is dystopian and borderline hell..
yoooooo really fun segment I hope you continue with it. Props to whodat for putting in the work. I'm not a physical work type person, I worked at Avis CS for like a year and i just quit recently, there's a lot of crazy shit that customers have told me trying to get some type of refund or compensation, sometimes even the police would call asking for customer's info. You're supposed to believe the customer but sometimes the situations are just too funny man, I mean they really do say that the fastest car is the rental XD
Saying something to pretend I watched the video even though it’s only been up for 53 seconds
Hawk tuah type shi
should've said glizzy... it's a timeless comment
Can't believe this guy watched Atrioc live instead of UA-cam like the rest of us.
Respect
completely possible if you watched on 56x speed LMAO
I hope he does one undercover episode for streamers, the hardest job in the world
Combing through the random spam in search for the rare gems of glizzy spam must be exhausting 😭😭🙏🙏🙏
Bro said the apartment numbers he’s fired
Amazon's searching for a technicality or any little rule violation in this video for blame to fire him, and he conveniently left a massive f-ing one at that
He got cut off immediately and that info is nowhere near enough to locate anybody in the first place
@davidmella1174 I doubt they want to get rid of him before Christmas.. maybe if in future they could pull it back up but I doubt it
I have had similar experiences working for the biggest pizzeria chain in my country. Their turnover is so diabolically high that in a month of slaving away at the kitchen I saw like 10 new people come and go.
Bro this guy is goated and this content is great! Would love this stuff as often as poss (obviously not always Amazon) but I mind this
Worked there since May of this year and can confirm most of this whole video.
The daily dispatch routine varies between in the mornings, yes the vans are terrible. My typical day is 160-200 stops. Worst day was 240 stops, not even seasonal (just prime days). With seasonal it’s been 360+ packages and 20+ totes from his pictures. Screw apartments.
I’ve lost literally 10-15 pounds since I’ve started, so I have loved that with the solo working. Sadly become less of a dog person. Chased once before off a property. Deal with pit bulls named princess on the regular.
Newer dispatchers and buildings require you to take your breaks and lunches. The break is worked into the route. Older dispatching companies hate you for taking your two 15 minute breaks. Claim that you’re going too slow and send a rescue to get you off the route sooner. Basically they want a 20stop/hr minimum with bad routing too, since drawing a straight line on a gps is impossible for them.
I dread rescues because I feel like I’m able to do my own route easily and then I am tired and have to do somebody else’s.
The cameras are ridiculous too! Like they give no slack or relief to situations. If you’re crossing a 6 lane intersection and the green light turned red while in the middle of it behind traffic you’re dinged for “running” a red light. Like they want me to slam on my breaks in the center of the busiest intersection!? Big brother is watching, don’t have any issues eating or drinking though. Never dealt with that strict of a camera
Buuuut I finally have a new job lined up. Took amazon to pay bills while on the hunt for something better.
o7 Whodat
As someone who worked in a similar job as Whodat. What I used to do is to open the passenger door to the truck, pretend I am writing a notepad, and just whip it out and pee. The best days are where it's raining and it's impossible to tell. Sometimes times you just gotta go.
20:17 working at amazon must be terrible if whodat spent his entire weekend bing chilling
I can sense the A is BIG with this one
Big A got a Big A-
As forehead
Listening to this while I deliver packages in France. This is dystopian af
the crazy thing is the working hours even outside the US seem crazy long, here in my country I believe it's policy for the DHL guys to stop work by 4PM, like they'll even cancel their route if they have packages left in the van and just drive back to the delivery point, but the Amazon guys are still out delivering by 9PM 😭
26:31 rich out of touch streamer LAUGHS at poor overworked Amazon employee
'Streaming is harder though right?' 😭
@@brynna77 to be fair that was obviously a joke
@@vibratiosnah, it definitely wasn’t
@@HotTakeAndyit is
I’m not rich and I laughed
23:00 as someone who essentially did those job prior to amazon taking over everything, You do get a workout for the first while. And then you're almost guaranteed to eventually get a RSI from the bending and annihilating a disc which never heals properly because you don't get enough time off from the very thing that injured it. 11/10 would recommend.
2015-2017 I worked a FedEx route as a Jumper (basically passenger who helps run packages for a driver who does half the work with you), a typical holiday work day between November to January was about 150-180 stops or packages.
Closer to Xmas it went up to 180-220 stops or packages, so basically the entire FedEx truck is full, every inch is filled with packages.
Granted this was the days before there were Amazon delivery trucks so FedEx was doing most of the Amazon deliveries.
Don’t know if it’s any better in 2024 tbh.
I worked as a delivery driver for 9 months a few years ago, this was a fun little trip down memory lane lmao. I got bit by dogs twice, saw multiple people quit mid route and I had to finish it, was told I was gonna get promoted to dispatcher but then they ghosted me, got into multiple fender bender accidents, and once stayed out til 10 pm trying to deliver packages in the sticks. On the plus side I was in the best shape of my life and I only had to piss in a bottle once. Good times.
The vibes vs content of this video are absolutely insane. How is it possible to sound this positive about being worked to the bone, what a legend
Literally 1984 13:45
👁
1:48 when i was working at amazon they said and i quote "we have a 300% turnover rate" basically translate to one out of 30 people ends up staying for more than a couple months
I did Amazon delivery in 2020 and honestly your treatment depended on your DSP. We weren’t actually employed by Amazon we were employed by a third party that has their own trucks and everything and they get paid per package.
My DSP was super chill and they weren’t all over us monitoring us every second they didn’t care. I used to chill for half an hour and nobody ever noticed
Did Amazon delivery for a month or two when I needed a quick job, only good thing about it was the 20 pounds I lost from the insane amount of work. There's no other company that is so disconnected between creating policies and what it is like to actually work within those policies. They give you way too much work, and every rule they create for you makes that work less and less possible to complete.
I’ve been at this job for a year while going to school FT. The only bad thing about this job is running into rude customers (which is rare) but obv. depends on your area, and routes getting reduced which leads to drivers only having 3 shifts a week (instead of 4-6) which gives you only 27-30hours on a paycheck. This slowdown ALWAYS happens after holiday shopping is over in January-Feb, then the volume picks back up in March. Dsps also vary drastically with how good/bad mgmt is, so you can find both a great and terrible dsp operating out of the same Amazon station.
8:30 the WORD RESCUE IS SO SO SO MANIPULATIVE HERE
I was a delivery driver for a year. He's spot on. Quit March of 2024. Nothings really changed it seems. Other than at my DSP (Delivery company) rescues are forced, if you decline you may lose shifts or be fired. I was a top performer for my DSP. I consistently had the hardest route and one day. My absolute worst, had 450 packages on the dot. Where our managers actually had to help me because I said i refuse. I will not do that. Normal HEAVY loads are around 300 packages. I said im not taking the worst spot in my city, worst being the hardest and most apartment dense and that many packages. Also while i drove my driving buddies would call eachother all day while we delivered. That was the apex. Winters suck so much in my snowy climate. Still think about going back and it's been a year. We had a 10 hour guarantee, no matter how fast you were you got paid 10 hours. I frequently finished 5 hours in because I sprinted my entire route. Never stopped moving, never taking breaks. Fantastic system if you're willing to bust your ass.
6:52 “I would have peed on the floor outside” Um you mean the ground? Or dirt, grass, bushes etc? Thats not called a “floor”. Thats how you can tell someone hasnt touched grass in a very long time when they literally call “grass” the “floor”
Damn that sounds way better than what life at FedEx was like
I’m gonna gliz myself
I'm gonna hawk tuah myself
Him explaining how Amazon was tracking him even with hidden cameras means he is 100% cooked after this interview 😂
Wow this is very eye opening.
My sister was looking for a new job and was considering working at Amazon, and HOLY am I glad I convinced her otherwise
It depends some people can handle it and if so then the job isn’t bad. But with the turnover definitely not meant for most
My younger cousin worked as a temp years ago for Amazon Warehouse for Christmas.
Then every busy period since they contact him to come for short contract work.
He just says I will work X days/X hours for x euros.
Last christmas he was getting 40€/hour.
I did Amazon as a driver, and we had to do about 500+ packages by the end of the day. The start time was 9:30 am, managers would get there after 11am, so we are waiting for a few hours. The route began at noon due to the managers taking their time. They would give us the assigned van that looked like it went through a warzone. We did the "check" and pulled up the van to the ramp to get the packages and box bags. We had to be back by 8pm sharp. They ALWAYS sent me out to the boonies, so it took 2 hours from Spring, Texas, to where I had to go, and 2 or more hours back to base. Almost everyone was a complete jerk. The vans broke down when it was too hot, and I passed out once because it was 115 degrees one day after the van a/c broke, then the van broke down in a bad area. I called in, saying what happened to dispatch after 3 hours of being so sick. When one of the leads came, we grabbed the bags and boxes and put them in his van, and left the busted van for the tow truck. We completed both our routes in his van.
Ive been working for a dsp for like 2 years that delivers in west baltimore (park heights) and it feels like im getting deployed into a war zone every time. I get bit by fleas constantly if i walk in the grass and the itchyness from thier bites stay for like 3 to 4 months. Ive witnessed more crimes on these routes than i did on a ride along with a police officer in a day, from people crapping on the side walks to people getting chased and attacked with weapons. If it isnt peak season you sometimes arent even guarenteed work for the day you come in, unless youre a veterain and favored by dispatchers. The only reason im still working this job is because it keeps me in shape and ive got a solid position within my company at this point. Ill be quitting as soon as i get my associate degree in college.
“Its not im gonna blow my head of smooth” absolutely killed me😂
I've I've been in a whirlwind all day going back and forth on whether or not I should take a DSP job and leave my current job as a poop scooper. Based on everything I've heard despite the longer days and so many stops it sounds almost easier than what I do now. I already pee in bottles, get attacked by dogs, griped at by customers, I take no lunches or breaks and just eat on the go. Most other employees last no more than a few weeks or months and I've stuck it out for 5 years so ready or not Amazon here I come.
There should be laws that prevent this sort of treatment of an employee.
Yea I do 200 stops a day. The other day I was given 190 stacked with multi-stops. So much so the shit didn't fit in the truck. Im beyond feeling used.
Yeah 160 stops is 160! number of routes. We havent figured out how to optimize the traveling salesman problem with 50! routes. Aintnoway
Its kinda crazy you gotta load your own truck. I figured they had people who pack them on the night shift
I got hurt at Amazon last year in December 2023 doing this job in dislocating my left knee going up and down the apartment complexes all day long. I have mostly healed but there's still mobility issues from my knee unable to extend out like you'd normally be able to kick your legs out quick before standing. Also can't descend down stairs safely in full moment with my bodyweight on it. These people denied my surgery to get the piece of cartilage floating around in my knee and I'll have to eventually pay for a surgery on my own to get it. I just bought some peptides to see if I can finally run again and go up and down stairs without problems. I don't recommend working as a DSP driver for Amazon directly rather I would have done Amazon through Flex instead and find a different job.
I'd like to say that FedEx operates the same way. They hire 3rd party contractors that buy all the trucks, are responsible fir hiring people to deliver, etc. They pay you like trash because they also need to make money to take care of all the equipment. UPS is unionized and pays triple the amount that fedex drivers make. THIS is why unions are so important. I'm happy to see some people are realizing this
I feel bad for bro. He's doing this at this stage of his life. Atrioc trying to make it seem like he's undercover but he said he has to pay his rent. He needs this.
I thought the "undercover" bit was meant to obviously be a joke. Like, I thought we all were supposed to obviously know he actually did it as his real job?
He knows Whodat needs it, dude. Pretty sure they're good friends. He's just trying to make the situation lighter for everyone here with the undercover stuff, then saying it's not as hard as streaming and so on.
Homeboy, I'm 49 and so this full-time. Yeah man, sometimes life just sucks no matter your choices. Hell, I have a degree in economics, and enough college credits for multiple degrees, but never had an internship, so here I am.
I know now why the old don't fear death.
I would love to tell you about the Chipotle work experience. It's absolutely insane over here in New England. Higher ups fired and taking extended vacations, nobody getting written-up, callouts like crazy.... Corpo not letting our store open later because "it looks bad" even if we dont have any food to put it. It's grueling on days when you literally dont have enough people because they expect you to do all of the prepwork with like 2 or 3 people.. OTL
I have had so many run-ins with dogs doing Amazon I never realized it was such an issue till I got this job.
I worked in Distribution for half a year as a team trainer and lead for the exact same pay as an employee starting. This sounds crazy better than whatever the fuck i experienced. As WhoDat said with him looking at his phone. in warehouse, that phone is your boss, and your HR. It is what defines if you have a job or not. I would get alerted if an employee was not scanning a package for 45 seconds. then i'd get told to talk to said employee about their performance, most times it would be them in the restroom. amazon does not want workers, they want human robot.
I worked for a warehouse job this year (assembly work) they lied about the schedule, didnt have enough tools for me and many other workers, i saw entire groups of employees, not entire departments, but damn well close walk out and be replaced the next day. Shits fucked but they got all the power and people dont even understand how bad it is. And whats worse is there are even worse jobs. Had a coworker who used to make bricks. Like 13/hr out in the open 12 hour days. So he was at a better job than what he had. He would start drinking as soon as he got in his car at the end of the day. When they uped the hours from the advertised 50 - 60 week, 10hr days to mandatory 72 week 12 hr days. I only went in 5 days a week and the contractor i was with said, "its mandatory. So can you please quit?(cuz we dont want to pay unemployment) " "Sure i cba"
22:35 calling the dogs on a opp😂
holy shit i can relate to this, i used to intern att swedens worst terminal(its known as that to lorrydrivers) and the only difference between that internship and amazons working conditions is that in DSV you got asigned 1 car that you just had to use and it is legaly required of you to take a 45 min break(you usually just set it to break and continue working).
I don't work for Amazon but I saw dog bite mentioned in the thumbnail and I work a similar job where I got bit by a dog on my arm just recently. honestly, I thought it would have hurt more than it did. I got really lucky though, i only ended up with one gash in my arm because he bit my arm over my sweater, which doesn't even have a hole in it. finished my route and left an hour early, got steristrips, back at work the next day. still waiting for them to finish falling off, can't wait to see the scar
I worked Amazon too 3 months max and my DSP only paid 16.50. main take aways from working there.
1. your performance is measured against an algorithm, and the better you do the more workload you get. until you quit.
2. You WILL have to piss in a bottle, even the women Drivers if you are trying to make the so-called "good time".
3. The Surveys are to measure how fed up you are with the Job, they aren't anonymous, no corporate survey is.
4.Finishing your route early never means you're done for the day. never expect to get home early.
5. they want you to "drive safe" on paper but your algorithm and DSP will imply otherwise.
Watching while delivering pizza to a literal Amazon warehouse lol
22:37 we got doxxing on atrioc before gta 6 💀
Late to the party here, but I have a fun tangent to this: I work as a Service Advisor at a large Ford Dealership. We service a ton of Amazon vans, and every single one of them is always a complete cluster fuck. This mostly is because they have in-house maintenance for minor things, but it's amazing the amount of abuse the drivers put on these vans. It's cyclical, because once a van becomes damaged, the next driver in it is less likely to care as much, so things go unreported and get worse.
One of my best friends started his own business that does third party deliveries for Amazon in the Phoenix area. He was explaining to me how there's actually competition between his and other companies on who gets to cover what/how many zip codes.
Also ever since he started doing this I barely see or hear from him. When he was a groomsman at my wedding I only got him for about 6 hours. Also he had a broken foot after something happened delivering a refrigerator, but was still working lol.
I love comparing this to my experience at fedex, how little time Amazon workers have and how supervised they are, and im just over here at fedex getting a 2 hour lunch break, not tracked hardly at all, great stuff.
i love love love these interviews i hope you keep doing them
Listening to this is makes me thankful for just how laidback my job as a delivery driver in Norway is in comparison
I could never find a bottle big enough to pee in.
Relatable
As someone who's been there about the same amount of time so far I understand this. My first day they didn't give me a ride along and I had to wait a bit because of my other job so all the video training I had I was trying to remember. But instead of doing a drive along I pretty much was told to figure it out, it was pouring rain and they sent me on dirt and sand roads. I got stuck for 4 hours because I thought I could make it through the road it was gonna send me. They even knew too that the road was bad because I wasn't the first one to get stuck there. Then the following 3 weeks after I only got 2 days a week if I was lucky
"Its not like Im gonna blow my shit off smooth" is insane 😆
what a chill dude. do more employee interviews bro!
I work as an Amazon manager at a delivery station (low-level, not like corporate or anything) and honestly.. it's got it's merits. Worst part about being an amazon manager for a delivery station is you're expected to basically do every other function than just manage the shift, like even though we have a "Safety" and "HR" team, managers still deal with and fix safety concerns (which is fine) but then we also have to handle the reports unless our safety likes us. You'd think HR would be there to help answer AA's questions for time or personal related issues impacting their work... nope that's me. Oh and as salaried, we have no daily/weekly hourly cap so if I get too busy doing other things and then we don't finish the shift, I have to work ~13+ hour days 5-6 days a week depending on the time of year :)
This guy is so funny 😂 “scooby doo run” had me cracking up
crazy this is on the clips channel, we eating good over here
This 100% could be a main channel video! Really interesting content
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This was a really good interview. Whodat was an amazing guest.
aye kudos to this guy risking his job for this info. much love!
2:10 Imagine, just IMAGINE that every other day U come in to work the boss says "Sooooo, you gonna quit, or what?" 🤣🤣🤣☠️
Used to be a service coordinator/manager for a home repair company. This workers were taken advantage of and exploited. I felt bad for them, tried to work with upper management to get things to work better, but my immediate boss gave no fucks and wanted them to work more. She would always say how hard she worked (even though she got in last, and left before anyone else) and she would make sure to squeeze every penny she could out of everyone and everything. She would get in agreements with people (including me) where should would start doing X and we would start doing Y. Except she never held up her end and still got pissed that Y wasn’t happening. But don’t you dare mention X to her, she’s too busy to remember everything.
Sorry this is a rant about myself now, but I feel bad for this dude. Even from the dispatcher side you can see how much shit sucks but the C-Suites will either force you to do whatever crazy expectation they have or get rid of you and tell everyone had much of a problematic worker you are.
Amazon is paying whodat via twitch prime to talk about his experience working as an amazon delivery driver. Bro has two different amazon jobs
I'm a DSP dispatcher, the drivers suck, except for the ones that i like
relatable asf. i feel like i have the same thing with the humans i’ve met, they literally suck.
except for the ones i like
yeah drivers suck because the job fucking sucks lmao; headass "why is the guy I'm whipping shitting himself it's so inconvenient"
One of the biggest tech companies in the world couldn't figure out the traveling salesman problem, something first studied by mathematicians like 200 years ago. Crazy.