Why Everyone Hates Jazz
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To all my fellow jazz musicians, at some point in your studies, have you ever just found yourself feeling bored of "jazz" in the traditional sense? As much as I love it, I definitely have. Let's talk about it over on the discord: dsc.gg/charlescornell
Sweet cherry pie
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Honestly, I have felt some boredom, but then I remind myself of the prominent greats in jazz, and that renews my enthusiasm towards it.
Good Lord, your improvisation is much more tuneful and passionately played than the cerebral dry drivel of Collier that you seem to look up to so much, ^oo^
@@bernardthedisappointedowl6938 Right?In my opinion, Jacob Collier is sooo much better when he has fewer options. In most of his music, it sounds like it's complex for the sake of complexity only and doesn't have a purpose.
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Very true, Adam.
I'd like to think that Adam Neely and Shawn Crowder have been sitting off camera in Charles' basement during every video recording, just vibing, until he finally called a tune for the first time.
don't everyone think this??
seems legit
😂😅😊
Hahahahahaha, thank you for this new information
of cooooourse haha! :D
Mans is saving me thousands of dollars in music school rn
Jaja no he doesn’t
Who needs music school when you got Charles Cornell and Adam Neely?
@@raftag590899 well he's at least saving me hella hours trying to figure it out on my own. Theory is really basic math but if you can't flex it in context then you get stuck where I am - I love playing but I can't compose for crap and sometimes don't understand what I'm playing even though I can feel it's right or correct. Makes it easier to visualize when someone keeps giving it structure with examples and connecting bits and the reasons WHY we're doing it.
@@raftag590899 what kind of idiot spends money on jazz school
@@zxp3ct3r41 Charles cornell
I am not a jazz musician, but I do play jazz.
I feel this more and more every year of my life
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@@cheerioooo7865 lil mosey is white
the V in ii-V-I is basically just edging
I- why does this make sense to me 😂😂😂
Oh. That’s why I like it
That basically implies that the I is the orgasm of music
@@SteampunkPirates it is.
@@SteampunkPirates Releases tension, so...
Was fun playing man! 🥁
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I agree any genre sounds like that specific genre. That’s the purpose of a genre, to categorize music that fits that group. If you don’t like jazz, just say that.😂
Nah. I like SOME jazz. I can really get behind what I erroneously call "melodic jazz" aka jazz where it sounds great and not like a mess to impress. Like every small tidbit Charles does on the piano in this video is enjoyable. But then you have instrumental masturbation and howmuchshitcanicramintothisbox jazz and I go NOOOISEEEEEEE.
@@SCHTRAM its the same stuff, just faster. People like Charlie Parker are able to make it sound smooth enough that its enjoyable to some, and doesn’t just sound like chaos but has a flow and very clean rhythm, but I can see your point.
@@SCHTRAM go listen to Free Jazz: A collective improvisation from ornette coleman
@@SCHTRAM Don’t let anyone else discredit your opinion because that’s exactly what it is; your opinion. You can’t be wrong about your own likes and dislikes.
I don't like jazz.
I think the “impenetrable wall of eighth notes” approach to improvisation that no one in the audience can possibly remember is a big part of “all jazz sounds the same”. Memorable bebop tunes have relatively short phrases you might be able to sing.
The critics/haters would also have an easier time absorbing the music if they understood that the typical forms are, usually, relatively short and recognizable…
But you actually have to “listen” to the music in order to “hear” it.
That’s what made Miles fantastic…. Sometimes his short phrases were almost out of place with the music stylistically, but still somehow made sense and went straight to the heart
Hey, the grass is always.... Cut at a ridiculous hour of the morning time such that I find it alarming and especially tedious when I'm trying to rest before a day begins proper. V-i.
Yes, obviously.
I swear, if you start mowing at 7am on a Saturday _one more time_ .... I'm going to fire up my chop saw at 1:30a, and take care of breaking down that pallet.
THIS IS WAR.
If you try singing the words "The grass is always..." over a ii-V progression after watching this video, it's almost impossible to avoid using the tonic when you get to the word "green". I find it really interesting how musical syntax is just like spoken language. It has "rules" that must be followed if you want to be understood by a mass audience. Of course, jazz improvisation relieves boredom among jazz connoisseurs, but it sounds like gibberish to most people.
Please review city pop! It's a style of 70s/80s Japanese pop music that's often heavily jazz influenced. In recent years, the genre has had a resurgence on UA-cam. Lots of people agree that the "Holy Trinity" of city pop is
1. Plastic Love by Mariya Takeuchi
2. Stay with Me by Miki Matsubara
3. 4 AM by Taeko Ohnuki (which is probably the jazziest out of the three; I would start with this one!)
He's not part of the Trinity but check out Tatsuro Yamashita because he pioneered the genre.
I REALLY hope he does!! Tatsuro Yamashita could be a different video entirely, he has too many bangers..
Also Sparkle by Tatsuro Yamashita
City pop is basically japanese 70/80 r&b
a video on that. please!
Neo Tokyo Rhapsody
duuuude... I just wanna hear you play forever.
It'd be cool if you did some videos of you just playing
spotify has an album
"It all sounds the same" I've heard that about Pop, Country and Rock as well.
Especially Modern Pop, Country and Rock.
It quite irritating to hear that about those genres especially Pop and Country.
It's true tho
Yeah there's a lot of diversity in pop especially if you include K-Pop and J-pop.
"Isn't it supposed to?"
@@2m7b5 I say that a lot, but specifically about western pop and specifically about harmony.
I've heard it about classical too. So yeah... who cares?
I like how you defined what era of jazz you’re discussing; it’d be cool to see a breakdown of what characterizes those different eras and who the big names were
You can just google all that stuff
@@charliecampbell6851 I mean yeah I probably will anyways but it’d be cool to see like who his influences are and such
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Charles: - practices until it sounds insane -
Also Charles: I've ... never, never ... ever played that ... before
Also also Charles: I'v probably played it a thousand times. 12:43
yes congrats you found the joke
Yeah, if you go to his Instagram and find the video that’s from June 14, 2019. He plays that lick/phrase. Literally in the first second 😂. Love it
Yeah, jazz musicians just put an insane of effort into learning their vocabulary. He really has played that passage about 1000 times.
@@marciamakesmusic Thanks
man its so good to see u, adam, and shawn together. yall should do more collab stuff
I was just asking for a collab with Adam and Rick Beato. This is close enough for now.
Yall is not a word *jazz face
@@MGPL_ *jazz intensifies
@@MGPL_ you're right, it's two words conjugated together similar to I'm or They're. Languages like Spanish have it as just a single word e.g. Ustedes though so I find attempts to discredit it's usage (what it appears you are doing) likely rooted in discriminatory assumptions about Southern North-American's and their dialect where its usage is more common.
@@GuacJohnson damn bro.. i just wanted to comment lmao
I left my bachelor of Jazz degree, because of this exact issue, thinking everything sounded the same. And now after watching your video, I feel like a failure and inspired to get back into things. Thank you for the wonderful explanation. Something my jazz lecturers could never achieve.
Never heard this. People always tell me that it’s to chaotic and that they don’t know what the fuck is going on 😂
More accurate to what I hear. 😂
That's if you focus on the melodies or individual instruments rather than the chord progressions
@@Margar02 If I would say this to my non musical friends they wouldn’t understand….I gave up on them😂
When people say “Jazz music all sounds the same” I play a I - V - vi - IV and sing about 25 pop songs that I know with that progression. Or, if I don’t have a piano, I look up the UA-cam video that does the same thing
Really has to be the most common progression I know. Lowkey find it annoying how I hear it in so many pop songs
The "Four Chord Song" video is a classic. As is the one where the guy takes like six bro-country tracks and plays them in a multi-track session in various combinations, including at one point _ALL of them at once._ 😂
Soooooooooo, when are you guys putting out a straight ahead trio record?
Really wish you did tutorials on the regular because you are amazing at demystifying and explaining these various musical concepts, making them so much fun at the same time! Not many of us afford that luxry even with paid jazz piano tutorial sessions lol. Thanks for all that you do Charles. Cheers!
When I was younger, to me it also sounded 'the same', but it was really the 'feel' that sounded the same. Like how chords always didn't quite fully resolve, and left you with a similar feeling, which to me at the time, was a feeling of 'pretentiousness'. Like the music was saying "I know how this SHOULD resolve, but I am only going far enough to prove that to you, but stop before I get there to also prove I am too good for that".
hey you should make a podcast, i always find myself listening to your videos while playing chill video games lol
hmmm...what would you see the format being?
@@CharlesCornellStudios I would love to hear you just chat about music with another musician, doesn't have to be too structured. Just get someone featured, pick a base topic you both have knowledge on, and go off for however long you can. I would watch/listen the shit out of that!
Agreed.
@@CharlesCornellStudios maybe you could host a musician friend of yours or anyone who likes music and is willing to talk about it with you, and you go over different topics that relate to the casual listener.
@@CharlesCornellStudios basically just your videos but unedited and maybe with guests, you could get good musician/youtube friends to talk about stuff. maybe get a few topics to talk about each episode. it could be filled with advice, stories from gigs or music school, and song/artist recommendations.
from watching your videos i can tell you like to ramble on about a lot of stuff, which is great for podcasts. i think it would fit you very well.
This one time a folk guitarist wanted me to play piano on his compositions presumably because he had heard me play at an open mic night (but it was basically jazz). I worked out some tracks and came with sheet music. He said "I'd rather you didn't look at that. Here let's do something new just feel it"
This is all well and good but he was putting in random 2/4 bars in 4/4 and chords in places where I wasn't expecting them, and expects me to "just feel it" on a song I've never heard before. I mean I could have brought him a far more complex jazz composition of my own a d asked the same thing and I'm pretty sure he would have struggled lol
5:00 Yes I think the next time I go to a jam session I will call “different commonly played blues heads” that is my favorite jazz standard.
The Adam Neely and Charles Cornell collab I’ve been waiting for, bless
I really appreciate your openness and willingness to entertain an argument so easy to write off as unsophisticated.
This reminds me of the people who say “all metalcore is the same” like they’re surprised that a bunch of bands playing aggressive songs in the minor key of whatever their lowest string is tuned to have the same ideas 😂
0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-1-1-1-0-1-1-0
I don't think they are surprised that it sounds the same. I think they are surprised that some people want to listen to something that is so restrictive in its generic rules, particularly when those rules clash with the outsider's personal taste.
It's like if you don't like coffee (or wine, or olive oil, or a million other things), you find people that are obsessed with particular coffee brands to be really weird. To the outsider that doesn't like the "genre", all coffee tastes the same. Horrible.
@@AutPen38 That's a pretty good point tbf
Man I'd sell my soul to listen to charles do a 10 hour livestream of just his jazzy jingles that he plays being developed into full pieces
hey as a jazz musician (or at least a wannabe lol) i like what you said about transcription. often non-musicians view playing an improv written by someone else as "cheating", but its honestly so helpful in building a vocabulary an a sense of style that you can draw upon in the future, to make you a better musician. you gotta just listen to the greats sometimes
I'm a composer, but my take is take risks and avoid playing just eight notes when soloing. If the rhythm is generic the solo will be generic and boring. Rhythm is actually more important than the notes themselves
Charles Cornell's eye roll brought back to when I was asked to play nothing but Cole Porter tunes (my 3rd gig of the day) held in a stable at Earl Warren Showgrounds, accompanied by the sights, smells & sounds of the Snorting Horse, Manure & Hay, garlicky Gourmet French Cuisine. (The chef at gig #2 asked if I wanted to make an extra $100 playing an hour of Cole Porter hits for the owner & his prize winning horse - how could I decline?) So I zip on over to find an upright piano in the stable, with nervous party planners (black tie event) on walkie-talkies. The head woman briskly points at me, "You know Cole Porter? Play it NOW!!" So I did my very best; changing keys, tempos, (mixing up bossa/swing/ballad), playing every Porter tune I could think of: Night & Day, I Get a Kick Out of You, I Got You Under My Skin, I Love You, Love For Sale, Miss Otis Regrets... Thought I was doing pretty well, until about 20 minutes into the gig, the woman in charge walked by with a plate of caviar, rolled her eyes and complained, "You know you DON'T have to keep playing the SAME TUNE over & over!" (She was ii-V-I & done)
"Thigh twitch" 3:53
Thank you for your time
I would love to see you have a similar conversation with a rapper. Talking about studying the genre, knowing the components, having your music be inspired by that foundation while also putting in your own flare, etc.
regular people: jazz sounds the same
Hermeto Pascoal: listen to my beer
I lucked out. My dad loved Glenn Miller and Benny Goodman. After a childhood of that, I listened to a lot of great pop, then came back to jazz when a choir teacher got me into vocal jazz. I never sat in that Miles first quintet phase early on.
My vocal jazz students were assigned jazz sub genres and they had to learn the qualifying differences of each genre. One of things I explained is that any genre has a base of elements that help readers and listeners identify it. The fact that we can come up with creative ways to differentiate ourselves within said genre shows the beauty of humankind.
Beautiful
Showed my friends Cory Henry's Lingus solo, they said it sounds like music from Mario
You know when you can’t get to sleep at 3 am and every thought you have ever had enters your head. Thats what jazz sounds like to me. It’s a truly impenetrable genre, with some of the most meandering shit.
3-6-2-5-1 is such a complicated way to say "just walk around the circle of fifths". Or maybe "V-I" cadence and then V-I from that, and from that.. hehe :)
Btw, the II-V-I goes all the way back to baroque music. But instead of the root of the II chord, they would play the third in the bass.
I listen to Pat Metheny and Fourplay and my friends and family call it "Elevator Music". It's infuriating.
I recently got addicted to last train home. It does sound like elevator music, but i don't mean that in a bad way. It's better than most elevator music, for sure, but most of what is typically found in elevator music is in that song. I guess what I'm trying to say is, if last train home was played on elevators, it wouldn't sound out of place. I sure would be happy to hear it on my elevator ride.
Unfortunately, Pat Metheny, especially certain selections of "The Road series"(mid 1980s), ended up first as background music on the cable Weather Channel in the 1990s (Metheny needed some cash, I guess) and it actually found it's way into "Muzak" collections for commercial background music - *quite literally elevator music.* People recognize the distinctive sounds, but because their experience to it is as background drone they are conditioned to not pay attention to it. Scott Hamilton (my chosen mentor) did the same thing around the same time. His sax, and his blues, ballads and swing style ended up in many grocery stores and restaurants. His improvisation style is distinctive and recognizable, but many hear it as "elevator music" because that's how they were exposed to it. Don't be infuriated - to each his own; you just have a deeper understanding of the music they pay little attention to. As in Victor Sabiá Pereira Carpes' comment, I once heard Scott Hamilton playing in the background in a restaurant. My waitress saidd it was "just one of the tapes from Muzak we put in during dinner hours". I was very happy to listen to it while I ate my dinner knowing I was probably the only one in the room that knew anything about the music being played or the artist playing it.
People don't know how to listen to music without a standard backbeat.
But it is elevator music. Doesn't mean it isn't awesome. Walter Wanderley's Summer Samba is peak elevator music but because i now appreciate the context of its origin I still enjoy it.
Pat Metheny is far from "elevator music." I learned that after really getting into his work.
Nah, people also say “classical music sounds all the same”… I just don’t bother with them lol
And also hip hop, Brazilian funk, chiptune...basically any type of music sounds the same to someone
I'm more of a classical musician and I'm just learning jazz right now and this is super helpful you are such a good instructor. I think I'm going to start breaking down some jazz tunes and understand what's happening! Thank you Charles!
I am definetly not a musician, but I am a visual artist and I found your tips really helpful for my own work. So thanks, charles.
For those who says "Jazz music all sounds the same", they should hear: "Soul Station" of Hank Mobley, "Kind of Blue" of Miles Davis, "A Love Supreme" of John Coltrane, "The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady" of Charles Mingus...
Anyone who says "Jazz music all sounds the same" and listen to EDM as their mainstay I just... can't even...
@@computer_toucher I agree.
@@computer_toucher A guy I knew was trying to convince me that his trap music (that he made) isn't all the same and was like
"See? in this bar I play the hi-hat early!"
And then I showed him a 3/4 trap beat and he was mindblown
If you like a genre of music, there's no grave responsibility that forces you to like ALL music in the socially defined genre.
If you like jazz, and you hate some music that other people call jazz, then it's fine!
You don't need reasons to like something, you just like it.
Man you took the words out of my mouth with the language analogies. I've been wanting to make a video about that concept. If I do I hope you don't mind if I reference your video here. Great teachings my dude
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Charles: Brings in Binging With Babish to play the drums. 3:51
😂
As much as I love jazz, and your channel, it has to be said that most of this sounded like jazz to me. Virtually none of it sounded like death metal.
He has jazz fingers
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Charles has never played it before
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Charles plays it again
I believe it was said sarcastically.
@@CH4NNELZERO Yeah I got it. Thanks for checking in though
@@matthewgilmore276 that was a sarcastic thanks wasn't it ? 😂
@@CH4NNELZERO No toxic chat on Charles channel my friend! (it was a little sarcastic but I mean no harm lol)
I think my love of jazz started with Mister Rogers Neighborhood I took that ball and ran with it. Been running with it for 35 years now and I’ll never be sick of jazz. It’s just such a part of my moral fiber now, that I can’t even imagine my life without it. I even hum things in a jazzy fashion. Can I play jazz? Nope. Not in the slightest, but I can always appreciate it.
Thank you, Charles, this is the kind of video by you I love! Detailed explanations that amateur musicians can follow, too!
This video explained and opens up the mystery of jazz. Well done.
As a classical theory nerd, your videos are so amazingly educational and make my brain happy!
Classical and Jazz theory is all the same in a way, so definitely learn it. I'd recommend also 12tone and 8bit music theory, excellent education resources. Regards, composer dude
I've actually never heard anyone say that to me about jazz music before - but I don't typically go around asking what people think about jazz music because I don't really care. I like jazz music and that's all that matters to me.
Joni Mitchell's "Hissing of Summer Lawns" is the best dang jazz-influenced pop song I've ever heard. Also, if someone can't tell the difference in sound between Getz/Gilberto's version of "Girl From Ipanema" and Julie London's version of "Cry Me A River", then they have a problem lol
Day 7 of asking you to check out City Pop cause you'll definitely love its jazz/funk influences and their s p i c y chord progressions, also the fact that even though it was invented in 80s Japan, it still holds up amazingly well today
Yeah, city pop is a gold mine, especially Tatsuro Yamashita's music
It's Takeuchi time for Charles
If you're colourblind, a lot of things are going to seem the same when they're not.
Damn thats hard
This is a perfect way to put it. The reality is that jazz has a high bar of entry. Most jazz musicians don't want to say that because it sounds snobbish. But unless you know the vocabulary of jazz, it's probably going to sound like noise to you. And all noise sounds the same, to an extent.
@@rome8180 Jazz is not exempt from being a genre, which means it all sounds the same because that’s what a genre is. Also, you can write a pop song with as many intricacies and complexities as any jazz song, likewise a jazz song with the most uninspiring chord structures and melodies. Jazz is not inherently complex, it is simply a style of sound.
@@futuregamer25 jazz is not a style of sound. Whatever characteristic element you name, there'll be a jazz album or artist that doesn't use that element. Jazz (if you even want to use this term, a lot of artists eschew it) to me is simply a way of looking at music through a lens that, if you go back far enough, comes from africanisms like repetition and improvisation.
So you think “understanding” Jazz is a genetic disposition? Something you are just born with? If not, you’re comparison is not really accurate. I hope everyone can become a snob like you ;-)
Love the playing element with Neely! Keep doing more of that too!
I absolutely Love the way you explained this... Very cool.
I feel like part of the problem is that people know what kind of jazz they want to listen to, but can’t even find it
Yes. I've often enjoyed live performances but had a hard time finding things I like to listen to by myself.
Blues is the same. Literally doesn’t matter. Everyone gets the Blues
I honestly think blues is the most intuitive music genre to play. It's simple, very emotionally-driven and accessible to anyone with very basic instrumentation (guitar, piano, harmonica, etc.)
If you want to play blues, just pick up a guitar with the 4 chords you know, strum and moan about whatever shit is happening in your life. It's universal and straight forward, you just let your aching heart do the talking.
@@OsKarMike1306 the blues aint got no fourth chord son
Great video! I’ll add one kind of counterintuitive reason I’ve noticed with friends of mine- I think many people think it all sounds the same precisely because it *doesn’t* sound the same. Meaning, with all of the improvisation, it can sound like it’s just an endless stream of new material, rather than providing the structure and repetition people acculturated to other genres have come to expect. I once had a friend remark that the last 2 hours of jazz that had been playing at my house was all “the same song” and I think that’s why!
0:38 that background lofi song is called "sorry, Jorge" by. Jobii
It feels so weird that people might genuinely have this sentiment. Not because I think they're _lying,_ but because it's obviously a trick of perception. Human brains are wired to catch patterns - the joy of the details and the minutia is _obviously_ something learned over time. That's why the same has been said before of _every single genre of music._ I guess most people just don't second guess themselves very often?
Never, ever trust your first impressions of anything. Especially art.
What? I've been listening and studying music for years and the more I learn or listen to the same genre, the more it sounds the same :/
Stop it with the pretentious "if you [insert undesirable statement], you definitely don't understand it or haven't used to hearing it" mentality, lol
@@feetfinderguy7044 Well, I've only grown more fond of the genres I consistently listen to, so I think we have a bit of a stalemate here
What I _will_ say with certainty is that the Mere Exposure Effect is a real thing. I'm not being pretentious at all, I'm just trying to use what I know to understand what I don't. It's not the _only_ thing that determines whether or not someone likes something, of course - that would be absurd.
@@feetfinderguy7044 Huh. I'm not discounting your experience, but honestly, I don't think most people have the kind of experience you've had... Think of all the people that listen to a few jazz songs and say, "this all just sounds like noise to me": You don't think someone who spends more time with that "noise" will be able to make distinctions within a genre better than someone who's spent less time doing that?
@@pedroscoponi4905 fair enough, I respect that you acknowledge the exposure bias though :)
@@faizanhasnain7960 I think someone who spent more time in that "noise" would be less likely to tell difference because of irrational bias, tbh
Let's compare genre to a language (like the video above proposed). If you hear a new language for the first time, everything that's being said will sounds complex and different, but when you spend more time in it or get used to it, you'll become familiar and began to spot a pattern until you reached a certain point that you can confidently say "huh, this language is simpler than I initially thought". When you told the native speaker (people who grew up with X genre) about their vocabulary being shallow and there's lot of inefficiency in the grammar, that's where nationality kicks in and they began endlessly defending it by saying "if you think our language is [insert undesirable statement], you're just ignorant and uneducated!!"
"The grass is always a little too long for me."
- iPhone auto complete
Needed this. Thanks
And when you put a 7a, a 9a, a13a, a15a... it's a cluster. It sounds the same, you don't recognize the function of the chord (do, mi, sol, si, re, fa, la... is an escale!).
Why isn't anyone talking about how handsome charming and talented this man is?
"I've never played that before"
6:20 plays the same lick
I think it was British contemporary classical composer (and jazz fan) Harrison Birtwistle who said that jazz is harmonically quite a simple music. My grandson, 10, says my music, a range of jazz from Pres to Mark Turner, is ‘stressful’.
This video is literally the key that unlocked so much of my mind. Thanks for this. I feel rather enlightened.
someones once said to me:
haha this music sounds like someone was doing stochastics. Completely random!
I was triggered and put anatomy of a murder scene in the queue and told him this was a random orchestra arrangement.
Tips for a high schooler trying to find a way to pursue audio engineering?
Have you maybe tried going to a studio and asking to intern or work for free there...? And maybe also start understanding what it is more, cause that will defs get you better chance of understanding and knowing where to go and what to do as well
There are great videos done by engineers and producers all over YT
Omg i just learn sooooo much thank you 🙏
Congrats on 1 million charles!
Man lost me at 0:20 and found me again at 0:24
wtf obama and vin diesel?? my brain hurts
Ah, so this is what you and Neely were doing. Nice!
Editing and the lingering overlay of you playing I really liked.
Content wise it's a banger as always.
Music = language
Genres = dialects
Sub Genres = accents
Licks/Fills = local slang and phrases
This is why I love the language of music and am glad to partake in it.
i really want charles to listen to something musical theater related idk maybe hadestown
Charles: maybe they're right!
Also Charles: we're going to focus on essentially 20 years of jazz, ignoring the other 80 years it's been around.
And even then, it doesn't sound the same.
Super insightful, thanks Charles!
Your point on it mattering or not made me think about how I actually don't always enjoy a genre of music I like sounding too different from what I am used to. This is mainly in Power Metal music, which is my favorite genre, the heart and thought is always there, but especially recently there has been a big departure in sounds that I am not exactly fond of.
Well rap always sounds the same...they're always rhyming.
First-Fith-Fourth-First
Pop-Musicians rn: 👁️👄👁️
So, like, the ii V I can be expressed as a descending cycle of fifths, because in root notes the ii is the V of V and the V is the V of I. Or it can also be an ascending cycle of fourths, because V is the IV of ii and I is the IV of V.
Thank you man! GOOD JOB
ya like jazz?
Yes.
I've been learning jazz for more than 6 months now with a teacher. It certainly doesn't all sound the same, and I listen to at least an hour of it a day.
@@idolevin8795 what instrument do you play?
@@user-kh8oc2yf4r piano. Since I was 8. I'm 17.
"All Jazz sounds the same..." said the pop artist while strumming I-V-vi-IV...
I really enjoyed this video, Charles! I'd love to see more content like this :) also I love hearing you play
I post synth tracks a few times a week and a lot of it sounds the same just in different styles and genres . its more like a n opus then a set of distinct tracks. its a fun way of doing music for me. totally agree.!
We are so thirsty for him to respond to our comment🤣 nice vid can't wait to finish watching it
I appreciate jazz if it has structure but there is too much free form wankery and noodling, not just in jazz but blues and prog rock. I prefer King Crimson and Steely Dan. They cover all the bases.
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Yeah we all know King Crimson doesn't have any long form songs with free form wankery, not a single one. (great bands but your comment is pretty silly)
@@GuacJohnson I’m saying they both cover all the bases Nick, with both written solos and free form but it’s not too much. They are very tight. And sometimes play live over same backing tracks years later. They take you on a journey, and make sure that you are on board, along by the ride, it’s not just self-indulgent.
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Frank Zappa and the mothers of invention take care of all of your Musical needs.
As a beginning writer, I like composing basic accessible stuff, for the ear, and common tones. Then, hopefully the theory of expanding harmonies is deepened.
Hooray for Adam and Charles playing together!
Not a big fan of this "music" stuff, idk, it all sounds the same...
Silence is what real Chads listen to
Jazz: if there arent melodies or repeated motifs it's not for me. Some jazz is good some jazz is musical masturbation that doesnt make an artistic statement.
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Awesome explanation with some powerful analogies!
I absolutely love hearing you talk about music so passionately.
Also, here for Charles THICC Cornell as well.