Yes it power crept a lot of cards, but the main issue is that it’s so hard to get. It’s understandable when Konami wants to push new product, but when a very necessary card for competitive play becomes $100 it’s toxic for us players.
@@chipbowiefirstacc123I'm sorry - what? Why would you refer someome to a wholly different format/game? If you like playing paper yugioh, the only option rn is to buy S:P or lose wayy more games than you were supposed to if S:P was cheaper. If tennis rackets triple in price from one day to the next, you don't tell someone to start playing football instead of agreeing with them that prices are too high, do you? Also - yes, Konami influences secondary market prices by deciding card rarities.
@@chipbowiefirstacc123 "Konami didn't make the prices" sure, but they made S:P a secret rare. Also "play master duel"? Bro the kinda guy to tell you "go to McDonald's" when you ask him for a Whopper.
@@chipbowiefirstacc123yeah that's not how any card collection/game works. if Konami increased the print the prices go down. Rare modern cards are under printed in Yu-Gi-Oh by design
9:32 He says this as a joke, but decks being able to play or not to play certain cards is atleast 50% of what makes something "powercreep" If cosmic blazar dragon had the same effects but was a link 1 that required "any monster" then it would be played at 3 in every deck ever and be banned a month later because it powercrept the entire game and every deck would only ever try to summon 3 of it every game Meanwhile if baronne de fleur required the fleur synchron as material, nobody would be playing it other than random jank strategies
I remember still using Borrels early into the era of Accesscode. I couldn't get my hands on one then so I stubbornly stuck by what I had, and honestly, they weren't even that bad (Or at least, not as grossly outgunned as something like Unicorn is by S:P.) In general though, I feel like the moment Accesscode along with Apollousa were printed was when the power level of generic links went too far and S:P is just the newest extreme we've reached.
Yes, we are complaining there are too many generic staples...but remember we were once have to automatically-scoop to Full Board of Synchron without "Proper Answer" other than Handtraps, now every mid/low tier have Generic Typhoon and maybe Raigeki to combat!! (It's the dream that we had dreamt of back in those days...) Konami is far from being good but they at least are heading to a good direction... hope our players community actually see and appreciate their effort and strive for more positiveness 😊
I think SP will get limited to 1 then just stay there Then extra deck interaction (like kash unicorn) becomes slowly more prevalent, and one off broken extra deck cards start getting checked by them
@@RazielTheUnborn correct. But SP is most degenerate at multiples. If the first sp didn't wreck you, the second guarantees she will. She's TOO much in multiples Also makes things like extra deck rips stronger vs her
@@prosamis Most decks who run her at one are already oppressing you and keeping you from playing. The decks playing her at two are ethe ones getting stomped by the ones that play her at one. They play her at two to hang.
I remembered beating an access codetalker player with a sacred beast deck. I got all of them in the first turn and ended my turn and activated awakening of the sacred beast. he went and into a crazy link spaming only for him to find out that all of his graveyard cards where getting banished, he couldn't activate a single monster effect on the field and got me to around 23k life point. By that point, he just just quited from what would have been a humiliating defeat after not reading the cards i had. Like, i get link spaming is powerful, but if you dont have any card that can destroy awakeing or get rid if the beasts after having the 3 beasts hit the field, you just need to quit right away as you are not doing anything wothwhile.
@@Jyxero yes he could have, but failure to read the card cause him to not do it, he kept trying by banishing other monsters. He went for 5 mins hiting the same wall only to end up in a worst situation.
So just hear me out: we should ban IP first and see if things resolve themselves. Without IP, SP would be a much harder commitment and you dont get to use the on-summon effect on the opponent's turn.
That applies to linking into it on the opponent's turn. People still use an extra deck monster when making it and have no issue with just committing to two main deck monsters. The temporary banish is the biggest strength of it since it is so versatile
infact, the only toxic thing about SP is the effect that let you ban whatever card if it's link summoned using a monster from the extra deck but its effect that ban until the end phase is not so toxic, and if the game would be slower (as i think it should be), this card would be just a useful generic toolbox and nothing else
*cant make Accesscode or my Borralload Savage and I trade away my S:P Little Knight for a Jiaolong because I play Vanquish Soul and know I wouldn't get it and I didn't*
Dawg your donner example with kash doesn't even solve the kash problem back then, they wanted that shit OFF THE BOARD. K. Unicorn still sees play along side S:P, and imo, azalea was just always trash, something ways always going to come along and make her irrelevant
@@KevinTangYTbut it’s not an Omni negate. Most people want Omni negates gone, Konami gives us SP a non oppressive card just interaction, and people are mad..
The entire game is power creep?? Lmfao am i missing something? Have they had rotation this entire time? Or nah? That is the definition of power creep. 😅😅😅😂😂😂
You do not need rotations to have power creep. All they need to do is print something stronger than the last strong card/archetype by a country mile and that's power crept. Accesscode Talker most definitely power crept Borrelsword Dragon as a game ender since 9 times outta 10 it's way better to blow up a person's board then attack for 5300 directly than attack a monster then another monster or directly for the second attack if at all possible.
@@PhyrexianFleshgorger bigger problem isn't the power creep but how generic the creep is. Take Ultimate Conductor Tyranno. That single card is holding up an entire archetype and one of the reasons (aside from Dinomorphia) that Dinosaurs are even rogue, and we're meta defining for years after it came out. It's still a threat today despite not having protections and yet it's locked to dinosaurs. Contrary to that, we got dumbass Accesscode Talker not being locked to its archetype or type. Baronne De Fleur being generic and only good card in her archetype. Crystons and (Infer)Noble Knights can't even play their own links anymore because how abused they are outside of their own archetype, same for Predaplants. It's frankly irritating. These cards should be either locked to their archetype or have a heavy consequence of being played outside their archetype if so piss generic.
Yes it power crept a lot of cards, but the main issue is that it’s so hard to get. It’s understandable when Konami wants to push new product, but when a very necessary card for competitive play becomes $100 it’s toxic for us players.
play master duel and stop complaining , konami didn’t make the prices the players did
@@chipbowiefirstacc123I'm sorry - what? Why would you refer someome to a wholly different format/game? If you like playing paper yugioh, the only option rn is to buy S:P or lose wayy more games than you were supposed to if S:P was cheaper. If tennis rackets triple in price from one day to the next, you don't tell someone to start playing football instead of agreeing with them that prices are too high, do you?
Also - yes, Konami influences secondary market prices by deciding card rarities.
@@chipbowiefirstacc123 "Konami didn't make the prices" sure, but they made S:P a secret rare. Also "play master duel"? Bro the kinda guy to tell you "go to McDonald's" when you ask him for a Whopper.
@@chipbowiefirstacc123yeah that's not how any card collection/game works. if Konami increased the print the prices go down. Rare modern cards are under printed in Yu-Gi-Oh by design
@@chipbowiefirstacc123how’s that corporate boot taste?
My favorite SP Little Knight fan art is of her buying Wonderbread.
Lol is the waspy wonderbread guy still around?
9:32
He says this as a joke, but decks being able to play or not to play certain cards is atleast 50% of what makes something "powercreep"
If cosmic blazar dragon had the same effects but was a link 1 that required "any monster" then it would be played at 3 in every deck ever and be banned a month later because it powercrept the entire game and every deck would only ever try to summon 3 of it every game
Meanwhile if baronne de fleur required the fleur synchron as material, nobody would be playing it other than random jank strategies
MBT Twitter Threads usually has Post-Credits, so wait a little before doing the outro because we might have some weird take right after.
I remember still using Borrels early into the era of Accesscode. I couldn't get my hands on one then so I stubbornly stuck by what I had, and honestly, they weren't even that bad (Or at least, not as grossly outgunned as something like Unicorn is by S:P.) In general though, I feel like the moment Accesscode along with Apollousa were printed was when the power level of generic links went too far and S:P is just the newest extreme we've reached.
Deck summons extra deck monsters as part of their starters
Sp little knight: _"its free real estate"_
We’ve come so far to where Fenrir isn’t the biggest issue… S:P is the new sheriff around these parts!
fenrir rant counter:
Yes, we are complaining there are too many generic staples...but remember we were once have to automatically-scoop to Full Board of Synchron without "Proper Answer" other than Handtraps, now every mid/low tier have Generic Typhoon and maybe Raigeki to combat!! (It's the dream that we had dreamt of back in those days...)
Konami is far from being good but they at least are heading to a good direction... hope our players community actually see and appreciate their effort and strive for more positiveness 😊
i can't appreciate anything from this game until unbreakable board on turn 1 would not be possible anymore
Watch them drop a card that powercreeps Little Knight in like January next year lol.
Imo little knight is doomed to be banned eventually
dragonball power scaling has been dethrowned by yugioh years now...
They're not gonna hit S:P after making it a QCSR.
They literally don't care brother. They've already hit QCR's.
I think SP will get limited to 1 then just stay there
Then extra deck interaction (like kash unicorn) becomes slowly more prevalent, and one off broken extra deck cards start getting checked by them
Limited to one doesn't do anything to her. Most decks play her at one.
@@RazielTheUnborn it does. Many decks play multiples of her, and those tend to be extremely frustrating.
@@prosamis Many play her at multiple, MOST do not. Most play her at one.
@@RazielTheUnborn correct. But SP is most degenerate at multiples. If the first sp didn't wreck you, the second guarantees she will. She's TOO much in multiples
Also makes things like extra deck rips stronger vs her
@@prosamis Most decks who run her at one are already oppressing you and keeping you from playing. The decks playing her at two are ethe ones getting stomped by the ones that play her at one. They play her at two to hang.
Praying for an S:P ban either this or next format.
Good luck lol
literally the only problem with S:P is the price. Otherwise its a fun, interactive, and interesting game piece
Kashtira is a floodgate deck
I remembered beating an access codetalker player with a sacred beast deck. I got all of them in the first turn and ended my turn and activated awakening of the sacred beast. he went and into a crazy link spaming only for him to find out that all of his graveyard cards where getting banished, he couldn't activate a single monster effect on the field and got me to around 23k life point. By that point, he just just quited from what would have been a humiliating defeat after not reading the cards i had. Like, i get link spaming is powerful, but if you dont have any card that can destroy awakeing or get rid if the beasts after having the 3 beasts hit the field, you just need to quit right away as you are not doing anything wothwhile.
Couldn't just banish itself to get rid of the floodgate? (Yeah, Awakening is 2 floodgates in 1)
@@Jyxero yes he could have, but failure to read the card cause him to not do it, he kept trying by banishing other monsters. He went for 5 mins hiting the same wall only to end up in a worst situation.
Also I said it before that I can see sp little knight getting banned
Drytron did not power creep impcantation.
Nick ortiz won a local with ritual toolbox as a joke once
5:14 is jaxel from the kuribandits
So just hear me out: we should ban IP first and see if things resolve themselves. Without IP, SP would be a much harder commitment and you dont get to use the on-summon effect on the opponent's turn.
That applies to linking into it on the opponent's turn. People still use an extra deck monster when making it and have no issue with just committing to two main deck monsters.
The temporary banish is the biggest strength of it since it is so versatile
You can't use imperm like veiler veiler with seline = accesscode tallker
You can't use Imperm after Duster, nor search it with BE
No what's really a scary thought is not if, but when S:P gets so powercrept that it can come off the list and do nothing.
SP is good design. It’s not a Omni negate just interaction.
Most players hate Omni negates so i don’t get why the hate on a card like SP
infact, the only toxic thing about SP is the effect that let you ban whatever card if it's link summoned using a monster from the extra deck
but its effect that ban until the end phase is not so toxic, and if the game would be slower (as i think it should be), this card would be just a useful generic toolbox and nothing else
It’s temperance you’re talking about
*cant make Accesscode or my Borralload Savage and I trade away my S:P Little Knight for a Jiaolong because I play Vanquish Soul and know I wouldn't get it and I didn't*
SP so good, I got 2 qcsrs
They are better getting Duel Links to be with the current meta while also promoting another. WHAT is GOING AWN!?!?!?
SP e-ban march 1st.
Nah
Dragoon on paper is still better then due
"SP Will get banned" - This comment aged like milk.
Snake eye card to
Dawg your donner example with kash doesn't even solve the kash problem back then, they wanted that shit OFF THE BOARD. K. Unicorn still sees play along side S:P, and imo, azalea was just always trash, something ways always going to come along and make her irrelevant
Yugioh is just getting worse in terms of power creep, pretty soon you won’t even get a turn to play lol
Yes
disagree, fenrir is one of the best designed cards in ygo since years
It's overly stacked tbh. Self summoning self searching that banishes every turn
@@KevinTangYTbut it’s not an Omni negate. Most people want Omni negates gone, Konami gives us SP a non oppressive card just interaction, and people are mad..
@@Geo-ok1nwPeople will get mad as long as a card costs 100$, that's all there is to it.
sp will get banned right before we get it in master duel "limited to 1"
The entire game is power creep?? Lmfao am i missing something? Have they had rotation this entire time? Or nah? That is the definition of power creep. 😅😅😅😂😂😂
You do not need rotations to have power creep. All they need to do is print something stronger than the last strong card/archetype by a country mile and that's power crept. Accesscode Talker most definitely power crept Borrelsword Dragon as a game ender since 9 times outta 10 it's way better to blow up a person's board then attack for 5300 directly than attack a monster then another monster or directly for the second attack if at all possible.
@@RazielTheUnborn I know there is more nuance to it. But without rotation, its a guarantee and the only place to is power creep! Up!!!!
@@PhyrexianFleshgorger bigger problem isn't the power creep but how generic the creep is. Take Ultimate Conductor Tyranno. That single card is holding up an entire archetype and one of the reasons (aside from Dinomorphia) that Dinosaurs are even rogue, and we're meta defining for years after it came out. It's still a threat today despite not having protections and yet it's locked to dinosaurs.
Contrary to that, we got dumbass Accesscode Talker not being locked to its archetype or type. Baronne De Fleur being generic and only good card in her archetype. Crystons and (Infer)Noble Knights can't even play their own links anymore because how abused they are outside of their own archetype, same for
Predaplants. It's frankly irritating. These cards should be either locked to their archetype or have a heavy consequence of being played outside their archetype if so piss generic.