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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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Atheists aren't that bad. This is NOT an argument for atheism... It's a defense of atheists.
This video received the award for "Excellence in Humanist Communications" from the Harvard University Humanist Chaplaincy.
James Randi said this video was "very cool!"
Michael Shermer said it was "very impressive."
Penn & Teller said, "If a god existed, this video would make him wish he were dead."
Dan Barker (author of "Losing Faith in Faith") said it was "very creative and powerful" and that it "makes a GREAT point!"
Greg Epstein (the Humanist Chaplain of Harvard University) said "it's a wonderful video!"
Stephen Ulh (author of "Imagine No Superstition") said that this video was "just wonderful for the cause of atheism."
David Mills (author of "Atheist Universe") said "I am absolutely addicted to watching this fabulous video, which has almost instantly become a legend in the freethought community. Zak has created the most intellectually and emotionally powerful multimedia presentation I've ever seen endorsing the atheist position. This is a proud moment for all rational-minded people. Atheist books can have wide-reaching influence, but I strongly suspect that Zak's video will influence a much larger audience than any atheist book ever published. The first few times I watched this video, I literally had tears in my eyes by the end. The artistic talent and technical skills required to write and produce this video -- as well as its core message -- have made Zachary Kroger my newest freethought hero. I'm not surprised at the HUGE reaction Zak's video has generated."
This video (among others) was also mentioned in the November 4th New York Times article "God and Man on UA-cam."
Nobelief.com said this was "the best video of 2006."
NOTE- It has been brought to my attention that Mark Twain, and Susan B. Anthony are not atheists. I looked into it, and my original sources were wrong. Sorry.
You can download the song used in this video at thegodmovie.com...
Lastly, I am pleased to see how much debate this video has sparked, and I encourage everyone that wants to, to join in. HOWEVER, spamming will not be tolerated. Nor will racist, sexist, or other mean comments. Such behavior is not conducive to good conversations, and users who do not act accordingly will be blocked. If you want to insult people, go somewhere else.
Christianity is just a dead guy on a stick cult. Ever since I rejected religion life has become much more precious to me.
Stephane Guenette
This took google literally 0.27 seconds to find...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15637693
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12548540
So yes, people (scientists) DO wonder about the origin of feathers. However, instead of just throwing their hands up and saying "I give up, it must be magic" (like you), they actually try to figure it out.
Also, paradigms change if the theory doesn't fit the data. So far, this is not something that evolution has to worry about.
Stephane Guenette The most important difference between science and religion is, as zakiechan said, science has and *will* change its paradigm when the evidence changes. To change one's mind in religion is blasphemy or heresy. I pose the question to many believers "What would change your mind about your god?" - "Nothing" is their brainwashed reply.
Atheos Nous Good post, you say: " science has and will change its paradigm when the evidence changes." Yea that is why science is so much better than the manmade supernatural gods of the world. What is the source of all scientifically verified truth? The self-activating mathematical natural laws that are actualized by the forces of physics. So the father, the son & the holy ghost compose the silly supernatural fake non-god, the phony biblical non-god is just a metaphor for the natural laws & forces of physics that compose the real all natural God.
Stephane Guenette Find out the biggest problem. Please like the video because religious people dislike and attack the video. It shows a realistic problem of the world.
ua-cam.com/video/HgZYkrwPStw/v-deo.html
Angel Vila With practically 100% certainty there is a measurably real God composed of the mathematic symmetries called the fundamental and emergent laws of nature that are integrated with the forces of physics. The genuine big bang creator and law of nature ruler of the universe, the true reason there is everything rather than nothing, the real actualizer of all truth & reality is the genuine Deity documented over the last 400 years by the natural sciences & reason.
Nothing supernatural has ever been documented with unambiguous evidence. Only weak anecdotal evidence supports anything supernatural, so most probably everything has a natural explanation, especially the big bang creator, evolver of humanity the Darwinian way & law of nature ruler of the universe God.
RIP James Randi. This video introduced me to him and the plethora of amazing people that helped open me up to the idea of secularism and humanism.
Missing the 1st song used for this.
Being an atheist is like being the only sober on in the car, and then they wont even let you drive. According to a study, religiosity is inversly proportional to IQ. I recommend reading books and watching videos from great thinkers like Dawkins, Harris, Hitchens, Sagan, Hawking and Harari - all great scientists, thinkers, authors and atheists.
Most of those people u mentioned got btfo
have you have heard of “correlation does not equal causation” too?
I miss when this was the most watched video on youtube.
Atheist's please take the "Convert me to atheism challenge 2016" I want to learn and engage with you, bring your rebuttals!
Amen brother Joe!
This is one of the best atheist videos I've seen to date, simply because I don't think many realize just how many of the creators and inventors are atheists...
Love this one. One of my all time favorites. Seen people brought to tears over this vid.
Fourberry Jones No, I haven't. What's it about?
I was quite fortunate in that I attended a school that focused on the sciences and taught the scientific method from the age of about 13. If I didn't get it then, my late father made very sure I understood it. Going through all his writing over the last few days, it struck me how like him my analysis was.
I was scrolling through my favorite's list and came upon this gem. This was my favorite video when I was 13 and was starting to use more logic 😅
Oh how much times have changed since this video was made
you know this video is old when he gives you a myspace link
LOL great point! It's almost embarrassing to think I had MySpace.
You should have mentioned Erwin Schrödinger dude. That man is also an atheist. The working of Quantum computer is based on his famous thought experiment.
This is one big appeal to authority fallacy, and not a defense at all.
Josh Gulick please read the description
Fgb Gbn please read my comment with the assumption that I have read the description.
“Everything is determined…by forces over which we have no control. It is determined for the insect as well as for the star. Human beings, vegetables, or cosmic dust-we all dance to a mysterious tune, intoned in the distance by an invisible piper.” - Albert Einstein
"Anyhow, the link if you please?"
The poll was conducted in 2010, but you can google "Baylor Institute for Studies of Religion Surveys of Religion" where it's referenced.
9) ... Vladimir Tendryakov, Tiffany Thayer, James Thomson, Miguel Torga, Sue Townsend, Freda Utley, Giovanni Verga, Frances Vernon, Gore Vidal, Kurt Vonnegut, Sarah Vowell, Ethel Lilian Voynich, Marina Warner CBE, FBA, Ibn Warraq, H.G. Wells, Edmund White, Sean Williams, Simon Winchester OBE, Tom Wolfe, Leonard Woolf, Virginia Woolf, Gao Xingjian, David Yallop... that was just authors. You want another list of visual and performance artists?
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Religious people are trained not to think. They are repeatedly told to just accept a premise without questioning. They are told to believe because others believe or because their parents believe or because they will be punished. The result of this is that every religious argument ends at the premise. If you don't accept the premise then there is no argument. Try starting with this premise: If everything was designed, then how can you tell the difference between something designed and something that was not designed?
4) ..., Frederick James Furnivall, Alex Garland, Constance Garnett, Nicci Gerrard, Rebecca Goldstein, Nadine Gordimer, Antonio Gramsci, Robert Graves, Graham Greene OM, CH, Germaine Greer, David Grossman, Jan Guillou, Mark Haddon, Daniel Handler, Lorraine Hansberry, Sam Harris, Harry Harrison, Tony Harrison, Seamus Heaney, Robert A. Heinlein, Zoë Heller, Pierre-Jules Hetzel, Dorothy Hewett, Archie Hind, Christopher Hitchens, R. J. Hollingdale, Michel Houellebecq, A. E. Housman...
That's as I suspected. Smarmy means: "ingratiating and wheedling in a way that is perceived as insincere or excessive"
And I certainly have not been attempting to ingratiate or wheedle myself to you, either excessively or insincerely. I kinda figured after I called you on it, you'd at least look up the word before embarrassing yourself further.
"Nobody talks so constantly about God as those who insist that there is no God." Heywood Broun (1888 - 1939)
"Science has shown so far that the universe can and does exist without the need for a creator."
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Stephen Hawking said "Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing."
My question for him is, did gravity create itself?
I don't rely on "the net". I rely on the Oxford English Dictionary. It's the most reliable source for definitions of English words as they are used in the English speaking world. And I've never met anyone who thinks the words are synonymous. They don't mean the same thing. They simply are not mutually exclusive. Like a person can have a mustache and a person can have a beard. Doesn't mean a person couldn't have both. Or neither.
The proof is the impossibility of the contrary. The challenge for atheist is to prove atheistic reasoning is valid without using a viciously circular argument.
Nobel winner for 2012 in Physics David Wineland is an atheist.
Carl Sagan was not an Atheist. Although he did not believe in a "God", he also could not prove that there was not a "God", and therefore he was Agnostic. "The question [Do you believe in God?] has a peculiar structure. If I say no, do I mean I'm convinced God doesn't exist, or do I mean I'm not convinced he does exist? Those are two very different questions. [Dr. Arroway in Carl Sagan's Contact (New York: Pocket Books, 1985), p. 168.]
"The thing about polls and surveys is, most of them concede that their numbers may be questionable so they add little caveats."
Entirely true - they're not perfect sources of data and shouldn't be trusted to give you more than general trends. They are also subject to unconscious bias, both on the part of the askers and the people being polled, in terms of how questions are phrased.
existence. Indeed, life was a burden and not a blessing for most of my life. But when I began to start talking about things to Christians, things started to change. I began to learn how to be at peace with myself, but it wasnt a sermon that did it, it wasnt anything church related. I simply started meditating. I started to actually listen to the silence of God. It was the silence of God that changed me. Silence no longer is something I fear, I actually need it. The inner violence and memories of
The Leuba study was repeated in 1933 & 1998.
In 1933 the % of disbelievers was 68%. And in 1998, the % was 72%.
The healing of the soul is like the healing of the body: The crucial first step is to identify the location of the illness, whether it is caused by the crassness, grossness and corruption of his physical body or by a failing in his soul-powers,intellectual powers, emotional powers, laziness; the person being inclined to undersirable traits like arrogance or falsehood and the like. Or, the source of the malady may be habit - inadequate rearing or unwholesome environment having brought on bad habits. (lying (Including lying to himself)stealing, envying other, hating others in your heart or brain, jealousy, ego, being egotistical, thinking only of yourself as the main need to fulfill, being lazy in helping others, good deeds.)etc
Without ascertaining the specific site of the illness and the cause of infection, it is impossible to embark on a cure. One can only prescribe an orderly proper conduct in all matters, what to do and what to avoid. To "do good" in terms of observing mitzvot, designating times for TORAH-study and acquiring good character traits - and also to "turn away from evil." MOST urgent of all, however, is that the patient make himself aware of two things: a) to know that he is ill, and desire most fervently to be cured of his malady; b) to know that he can be cured, with hope and absolute trust that, with G‑d's help, he will indeed be cured of his sickness.
Refraining from deriving pleasure - in the fullest sense - from this world, is only a fine preparation for improving one's own weaker traits in his worship of serving G-D. Improving one's own weaker traits to serve G-D itself is transforming the physical into a vehicle for G‑dliness.
Sho
So the shroud of Turin( What is though to be used during Jesus' burial ) was tested using carbon dating, and the test confirmed that the shroud wasn't what they used to wrap Jesus in considering that it was from somewhere between the 13th and 14th century.
Do you think that the Shroud of Turin is reliable evidence?
Also, Do you think Carbon( or any type of dating method ) is reliable?
That man who won the $333 million lottery said he prayed for years and years that he'd pick the winning number, and guess what?
I wouldn't make a point of telling my daughters that an author they like is gay unless for some reason they asked about it, eg: "does he have a wife?" in which case I would tell them in a very g-rated manner that many men fall in love with a woman and marry her. But some men, like Sendak, fall in love with a man and marry him. And likely, that would be the end of the discussion, as young children tend not to be bigots. Worst case, they'd say, "that's weird" and then go color or something.
10 years. Dayum!
Morality is what governs your actions when there's neither the promise of reward nor the fear of punishment, and when no one's watching. You don't have morals. You merely take orders.
Did I say that? I accept that I don't know. I accept that you don't know. I accept that nobody knows.
Go back to Wikipedia and get your facts straight. Excerpt: "Although it is rumored that his Christian Science faith prevented him from visiting the hospital, his stepmother and others deny this, as he had ceased practicing 15 years prior..."
It also reports that Henson DID go to the hospital. That's where he died.
Both videos, the UA-cam and the Vimeo, have extremely crappy music on them.
"If you want to believe the story was fabricated, that's your choice."
I don't believe the story was fabricated. I also don't believe it was genuine. I am *withholding* belief until I have evidence one way or another. That's why I am asking you to PM me a link to the original poll. But like I said, even if it was a genuine poll, it appears that the article to which you directed me made conclusions that the poll didn't actually support, like "atheism leads to superstition".
Really? You don't think it could have anything to with most modern religious doctrines teaching that their god arbitrarily decrees non-believers to be evil simply by virtue of their non-belief?
6) ... Georg Christoph Lichtenberg, Eliza Lynn Linton, John W. Loftus, Pierre Loti, H. P. Lovecraft, Lucian, Franco Lucentini, Lucretius, Norman MacCaig, Colin Mackay, David Marcus, Roger Martin du Gard, Stephen Massicotte, W. Somerset Maugham CH, Charles Maurras, Joseph McCabe, Mary McCarthy, James McDonald, Ian McEwan, CBE, Barry McGowan, China Miéville, Arthur Miller, Christopher Robin Milne, David Mills, Terenci Moix, Brian Moore, Sir John Mortimer CBE QC,...
What? No Christopher Hitchins?
It doesn't take a rocket science to figure that one out. Wernher von Braun was a rocket scientist, you could ask him. But, wait, he was a Christian. Forget that and ask Buzz Aldrin. He was the first person to hold a religious ceremony on the Moon. Upon landing, he radioed: "I'd like to take this opportunity to ask every person listening in, whoever & wherever they may be, to contemplate the events of the past few hours and give thanks." He then gave himself Communion. I guess you're SOL.
You do know that Darwin the writer of the evolution theory credited god with the creation of life right? His book Origion mentions god twice and creator 9 times.
Einstein have repeatedly declared he's an agnostic and that he doesn't believe in a personal god.
"I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."--Albert Einstein (1954)
You don't really make any effort to ensure that the words coming out of your mouth form any sort of cohesive idea, do you?
486,933 comments on this video and I'm guessing most are arguing the science proving or disproving a God that was written about by people who thought they could fall of the edge of a flat earth.
hey where did the old song go...
Umm... well if you're only going to count a 'success' as someone who somehow becomes immortal, yeah, I guess they have a zero-percent success rate. But we weren't talking about how good they are at granting immortality. We were talking about their curing ailments.
I contacted Gallup to request information on the poll. If/when they respond, I'll let you know.
Einstein refered to Tesla as the smartest man on the planet.
I highly recomend viewing the Origin of the Universe: vid serries posted by the University of Arizona
I hope you realise this video was posted six years ago. No one knew that Lance Armstrong was cheating then...
Cut it any way you like, but the numbers are stacked in favor of the theists.
Thanks for the respectful rousing debate good people. My hats off to you who didn't resort to petty insults and disrespectful language. I will now leave you in peace.
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thank you for playing. you are too easy. i just pull the string a bit and you dance for me.
Yet you didnt pull it
As if being intellectually inlightened, talented actor, biographer, chemist et cetera, made someone unfoolish.
Einstein, Hubble, Newton, Tesla, all believed in that Magical Jew.
Seriously ... when has that NOT worked ..?
Evolution is proven science fact. That debate is long over.
Thanks for proving my point. In the real world of science people cary no such prejudices, all ideas and resources are brought to the table.
I chose Einstein as my avatar because I admire his intellect. I don't care if he was an atheist or not. However, one year before his death he did say:
"The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this"
According to quantum physics it is really difficult to raise people from the dead but not entirely impossible. Dont ask me about the odds!
Personal experiences are horrible evidence to support truth claims.
Example: I have a good friend that was living on the street, addicted to alcohol, doing petty crimes.
One day he walked into a Hindu temple in LA & claims he had a religious experience with the Hindu god. Since then he hasn't touched alcohol, and completely turned his life around. He is a Hindu till this day.
I see him at least once a week.
Are you convinced by his story? Why not?
Keep reading.
'His wife Jane believes that his Christian Science upbringing, while not directly responsible, "affects his general thinking."'
And yeah, he finally agreed to go when it was way to late to help him. You also gonna blame the plumber for the flood-damage in your basement if you wait until the water is three feet high before calling him?
Jesus isn't given enough credit for what he accomplished during his short life. Here was a man who showed up out of nowhere & began teaching. Turns out he was not only a great story-teller, but a great intellect. Besides Aramaic & Hebrew, he knew Greek & Latin. Many of his stories were in the form of parables & others based on personal experience. He spoke in words that people could understand & relate to. His message was so compelling that today, Christianity is the world's #1 religion.
"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction" (etc)
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All of those apply to the Old Testament god. None of them applies to the New Testament God. The Bible should have been separated into two different books: the OT and the NT. The OT for Hebrew history, myth and the Psalms, and the NT for its message of love, hope, mercy and compassion. The Book of Revelation should have eliminated in in its entirety.
The NASA scientist who is the lead on near earth objects and astroids is Rev Guy of the Vatican Observatory. he also does bible studies for NASA here in Houston. 75% of american astronauts are catholic.
Garrett, you have posted some of the best comments I've ever seen!
Having that lying cheat Armstrong in there does nothing for the argument, he needs editing out.
you forgot Anthony flew
Ah, didn't catch the troll at first. Well done.
I'm not picking on anybody, just reporting the facts, one of which is that homosexual couples constitute less than 1% of American households.
I know, but he was a scientist. I'm looking for atheists the fine arts.
what kind of computer are you using?
Well I'm glad you've managed to rule that out using your skilled reasoning process of mindless irrational rejection. Keep going with that - it seems to be leading you to all sorts of conclusions. Who cares whether they're valid.
You used a straw-man argument. You just lost the debate.
Google prayed "medical negl"
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I did. I'm opposed to medical negligence.
You can believe in the tooth fairy if you want to. I'm just saying for some people logic and evidence and science might be important.
Creationists rely on the bible to give them advice. The bible says atheists do no good. So creationists follow that ignoring the good deeds they have provided. Some people think they are like 27% human, but without atheists, it would be like 1625.
All cool just fact check Edison did not invent lightbulb.
Charles Darwin wasn't on that list?
Atheists Don't Exist (full documentary)
They all lacked a belief in gods.
WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE SONG IN THE ORIGNAL VIDEO PLEASE ANYBODAY HELP LOL
+Avery Osby
_Is This The Real Thing_ - DJ Madson
I have soooo much sins in me... I need you to hold it for me
1) "Thanks for admitting that there are atheists who believe in the supernatural."
I'm more interested in what is true than winning arguments. Yes, there are some really naive atheists out there who reached their atheism via some means other than skepticism. They're a minority, so far as I can tell. But they exist....
The person is considered a fool because they do not believe in the One who created them and gave them their gifts or the road to their gifts, whatever they are in the first place.. If you have a manufactured item like an ipod and it malfunctions, another ipod can not repair it. It is sent back to the manufacturer for repair. Such is the same for a human being, I was broken and went the my Manufacturer for repair. My manufacturer is God. Just my way to try to explain it.
To even say the universe had a beginning is fallacious. It always existed. Beginning require time time existed as longs as the universe. You notions of time or juvenile
Love these debates but they frustrate me sometimes... i wish i had Jean-Paul sartre's attitude to religion, a man so thoroughly atheist he deemed the whole subject beneath his intelligence to consider. Simply religion is divisive and restricts us as a species. Check out a book that's causing a bit of a buzz in the UK and has been pushed by dawkins himself, it's called 2082 the chronicles of hope. On the website the 1st chapter for the 1st book is on there for free, there's a speech in there by an atheist politician that's genius
I don't blame you for thinking it all doesn't make sense. But that is still no excuse. We have finite minds trying to understand an "infinite" God. However Bro, If you think the Bible writers 2000 years ago just "MADE THIS GARBAGE UP" you are not thinking of the content in the Bible the right way. You would expect an "infinite" God to reveal some things that frankly are difficult for us to grasp, but that doesn't make them untrue. Some things we accept on Faith but the Trinity can be understood.
I have no tolerance or respect for ANY religion that needs to use force, fear, and violence to gain and keep followers. That includes both Islam and Christianity.
You only think the bible is wrong when it shows science theories up
I find it disturbing that so many prominent atheists laud this video. That there have been great scientists and intellects that don't believe in God is hardly surprising or even interesting. What is the point of this video?
As I say in the video description, "Atheists aren't that bad. This is NOT an argument for atheism... It's a defense of atheists."
zakiechan
There need be no defense of disbelief in anything, let alone the supernatural. Apply enough skepticism and one can justify disbelief in anything.
Bill Rabara Again, the description says, it is a defense of ATHEISTS, not atheism. I am not defending the view atheists have, I am defending them as decent people.
zakiechan
Some atheists are decent people and some are not. I met and spoke with Arlene Marie the leader of the Michigan atheist association and she was a nasty dimwitted twit with he intellectual capacity of a lab rat, ironically hell-bent on demeaning theists, calling all theists 'stupid' -- hardly a 'decent ' person. Of course there are atheists that are decent people, but I have never heard anyone argue that it is impossible for an atheists to be a decent person.
Bill Rabara Go browse the comments of this video and you will find literally thousands of people who think atheists are basically the worst thing in the world. You can also find a lot of research that shows that a HUGE amount of people think atheists are immoral, un-trustworthy, un-American, etc. According to Dinesh D'souza, atheists are nothing more than "God-hating ignoramuses."
Salvation is the only thing that last on this chaotic existence people call life.."a wise man teacheth wisdom fools die for the lack of knowledge"
I tell u " it is easier for a camel to enter the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter the kingdom of god"
God is only concerned about your faith everything else is lifeless
Did you know that"mankind as in humans are never satisfied"
Because of the flesh"it's the carnal state of mind!!
Have an nice day hopefully I have opened your"crown" which is the third eye of a human being..peace and love..May god bless you!!
Atheists believe lots of things. We are individuals. However, collectively we lack all belief in gods.
You know what would actually serve atheists well? Basic theology education. Then atheists could point out how stupid and academically unsettled theistic assertions about scriptural hermeneutics are - like the doctrine of Hell or Genesis 1 exegesis. Or that it can be considered impious to grant the Bible the status of perfection, effectively making it into an idol. Why don't I ever hear atheists make arguments like that?
what evidence would convince you?
I am not trying to avoid a Creator. I told you it broke my heart to learn there was no Creator.
Believe me - my grandmother was Italian Catholic. I grew up believing every word about Fatima! I believed the miracle of Lanciano also.
I am a rare person because all of that was in my heart! Including the shroud of Turin!
But it cannot be real - none of it. Delusions are happening every day and if you want to look up the latest they are at your fingertips on the internet!
Ask yourself a question..
No, are you?
Google "gallup poll finds atheistm correlates with superstition"
Its funny how many Christians break the Golden Rule XD
Kindly link me up to the 93% and 72% website.