another "INTELLIGENT ENERGY SAVER" tested and opened
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Today I test one more "Electricity saving box", also called "Intelligent energy saver" or "Power factor saver". It comes from eBay for about 4 USD including shipping. Let's see what's inside this scam device. Let's also do some measurements and calculations.
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I learned basic circuits forever ago in trade school and this makes me remember how much I've forgotten. Loved the straight forward electrical knowledge driven (including showing his work) debunk of these scam devices. No animosity or disgust driven commentary, just a demonstration of basic electronics.
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Thanks for the well founded information. My Dad (he's 90) bought a few of these boxes, and secretly pluged one od them into a plug in our kitchen. My wife discovered it and asked my about tve purpuse of the device. Thanks to your video I could explain it to her.
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the diode flicker experiment was more interesting than the power saver :D
The flicker disappears at 1/50s shutter speed due to aliasing (or the wagon wheel effect). DGW should do a whole video on this phenomenon in relation to oscilloscopes.
Seriously, the guy was doing good then just just went off on some kind of led herz tangent.
1:03 I too hate it when my appliances get fever :(
OMG!! Troll physics !!
This is by far the most interesting way of using the English language I have ever heard. The LEDeeeeeeee is thereeeee not hereeeeeee. Made my day
My old aunt bought this ~40€. Said that it has manual and all, it cant be fake.
Facepalm
To be fair this one isnt fake, just misleading to people who are clueless. It pretty clearly says right on the package that it improves the power factor of inductive loads or noisy loads, which is what it actually does. If you dont have any of those loads, it obviously doesnt do anything, but technically its not fake. Some of those claim to be miracle devices that magically save power which is obviously scam, but I can accept something like this one.
Did she save anything on her electricity bill?
My dad wanted to buy one (he was impressed by the graphs) and I didn't tell him all the details of real power vs. apparent power (because I don't fully understand it even) and just told him that it does nothing but light up, which is pretty close to all it does anyway.
@@Chuckiele Yeah it might slightly improve power factor but why bother because residential power is not billed for power factor
@@smeezekitty Not yet, but electricity providers intend to do just that, they just dont have any legal grounds to do so yet, but smart meters are perfectly capable of measuring apparent power and you cant reject getting one of those.
I love your videos, accent and cats
I like it when he says BLOODY HELL!!
8:47 The book collection is quite a mixed bag. I can see some cookbooks (below the TV, _"Sauces and Dips", "Potatoes", "Fish and Seafood", "Cooking with Láďa Hruška"_ (infamous Czech TV personality) and _"Tasteful Cooking")._ The two large books to the left of the cat are two volumes of _"Food Chemistry"._ Below are other encyclopedias, a book on drawing and another about painting, another on various therapies, and a few books of what seems like various historical fiction.
About that Láďa Hruška" - auto-translated from Czech Wikipedia:
In 2012, he joined TV Nova , where he became a "food inspector" through the position of field correspondent. At the behest of the television management, a culinary experimenter was created over time, who tried to cook from cheap recipes directly within the news, which the audience began to send to the television at his request. Hruška promoted these recipes from cheap ingredients, sometimes considered food waste (leather [? - was it supposed to be "peels"?], etc.) as "cheap and tasty". [3] Almost immediately, a number of nutritionists and physicians began to be criticized for this. [4]
The PCB marks show 2 transistors, 2 diodes, a resistor, a voltage regulator and a capacitor that goes nowhere. But the traces do not line up, so holes are between(!) traces on the other side. Quite sure this PCB is trash (printings and traces does not match at all) from a totally different device, but now used as a simple power indicator and they used some left-over resistors and a white LED. At least, this device is.. recycling at an interesting level.
Oh Danny, you wouldn't know how many people are scammed by this _very intelligent_ device in my country.
I love that when you see an unrelated but interesting phenomenon, you investigate that, too.
I only use the luxury version, that gives 130% power reduction upto 50kW, with the latest Swiss technology.
I have the platinum one saves 99.99% energy they says 100kw load will be suitable.
130% reduction ... does this mean I will be giving power back to the power company and they should be sending me a check every month?
@@zidane2k1 🤣🤣
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Pls. Make a video about how you made your watt meter in (3:44)
look at his website
@@michalbaca8165 it's much better if it is an actual tutorial video of making it
Inventor must be get medal for this useful device, what looks like gold and taste like chocolate.
Josh says:
"Just one note on reactive loads in households - despite the common knowledge that normal household power meters don't measure the reactive power, the electricity companies add an estimate of it to the price of kWh, so we do actually pay for it! The problem is closer to a scam now, with the new smart meters, that do measure to reactive power and this will add to the kWh price that already includes the reactive "tax" - double charge!"
Which country charges for reactive power?
"Don't open" So let's open it! XDD
Also 28000 watt! Thats ridiculous.
@@simontay4851 that's 120A
the screw joins the chat
"Don't open", so that you don't find out that it does nothing and is completely useless. Better bask in the "happiness" that it brings you in ignorance.
@@zidane2k1 that's right, if you're not an electrician, and you don't open it, it's not that big problem if it does nothing :)
2:20 As a German, I feel personally insulted by that manual.
I feel personally insulted by that manual as a HUMAN !
You are right, these GIMMICK BOXES are waist of $$$ and do nothing! I've seen these all over the eBay, Aliexpress and alike. Not everyone understands electronics like you do so some uneducated people will believe this useless item. I'm glad that you and few other people here on UA-cam are exposing products like this gimmick! Thanks for your videos.
I think the companies selling theses things need to be told and taken off the sites and shelves in shops with videos like this exposing them!
Except the specific model I have actually does have a significant impact on the monthly bill; I’ve tested it in different months with carefully comparing known usage with and without it being plugged in.
I’m guessing it has to do how specific meters operate in measuring power use in a household.
In my household I’ve saved far more than I paid for it; I suppose I could open it up and see if it’s design differs from the one shown here.
I love how it seems the designs change but the front sticker stays the same, even on this old black and silver unit that Grandad bought years ago and I just noticed. Identical sticker, "The result is the best" indeed.
At least it says it alters the power factor but still it's rubbish since most inductive loads already have a capacitor in them to compensate.
Helpful video 👍
Lol
I have saved so much electricity with this that I can use the excess to power a small African republic.
Me too!
At least this time it is labelled "Power _Factor_ Saver", not "Energy Saver".
@Agustinus Reynaldi Not even that if your appliance already has one internally
I imagine it was only so that it wasn't a 100% lie, only a 98% one
if your power factor is already ok this will make it worse
Your calculation was spot on. It was the manufacturer who could not get the right value capacitor that failed. 😁
I saw this device in an advertisement and thought it was something for DGW, but I didn't know that you had tested it. Great!!!
5:00 I could hear that you were suprised there was a fuse in it lol
I think in one of the dodgy charger collection videos, he had a similar reaction to one that had a fuse and mentioned that it was a luxury!
A fantastic, honest video, thank you very much for sharing it with us.
I have written to UK agencies and other places yet they are still for sale. If you have money to throw away then please send it to me. We look after and help ferrule cats here in France so do let us have your unwanted Euros or pounds. So lets evaluate, No CE, No UL, voltage states 90 to 250, well it will, all that to light a LED. Do leave your monies to us and not waste it. Another good product not to buy is the unit called a voltbox. It shows a picture of a form of transformer with a bit of strip connector and a old EU type 2 pin plug on a flex. So please if you do have too much money help us look after these cats.
Can you test a cheep Spot welding mashine ?
I love your accent.
Many of us do, feels like.
Internet providings. Great video too.
I think he sounds like a flaming homo. I'm not homophobic I'm just saying
😂 me too
From Prague, I think🙂
I really wonder about your power meter :D
"Adapt the latest and high- efficient technique of Germany and save electricity" -- Okay.... The sticker on the box (chinese symbols) and the whole appearance of the product almost yells at you that this can't be the truth.
Please make a video about your diy wattmeter
Are there really people who believe this BS with energysaving without any change of the own behavior?
And hey, don't you know all these diodes which were gone wild so now they have colourful rings on them..
At least they had a fuse according to the complicated schematic...
This gizmo truly works; how? It takes up one of your outlets so it limits the number of appliances by one.
Yes there are ignorant who would fall for this crap
Hmm ... 🤔 This video led me to the idea of disconnecting my household from the mains power grid (using a two-pole switch) and measuring the capacity of the entire internal circuit. BRB 😁
Once I saw the schematic, I thought "Snake Oil". Thank you for this video.
I asked an electrical engineer at work if the domestic mains meter we have in Malta measures VA or Watt. The answer was that it is a watt meter. This means that inductive or capacitive reactance is not measured and you are not paying for it. As you said in your video nearly all electrical appliances are now more capacitive reactive like inverter air conditioners, inverter fridges and freezers, TVs, CD players etc. These things usually even on standby power generate un-necessary current in the house wiring. SMPS tends to be more capacitive reactive if not having power factor correction.
When you changed your camera speed to 1/50 of a second… Isn’t it matching the 50Hz pulsing of your electricity therefore canceling out the flicker of the LED? At least that’s how I thought it worked because here in the states we have to use 60 frames per second to cancel out the flicker because of 60 Hz electricity
diodeGoneWild love you catch dodgy appliances and share with us thanks for your time and effort your schematics are very handy your cat is beautiful regards
Thanks so much for the explanation and investigation of this product. It's going back tomorrow!
Where did you send it back? No address!
*Please make a video on DIY watt meter*
I’ve seen reviews that say it must be working as the LED is lit
I doubt its really a power saver
I think it's gimmicks
Yes ur right ! Its all led inside only nothing else
LED = good
Oh yeah, as long as you see that LED glowing, you know it's saving you 90% on your electric bill ! Woo Hoo !
I bought one of these some 7 years ago, precisely to use the housing (much cheaper than a similar electronics housing). It did have an NP capacitor (no LED) but, to my surprise, only one lead was attached!
Just one note on reactive loads in households - despite the common knowledge that normal household power meters don't measure the reactive power, the electricity companies add an estimate of it to the price of kWh, so we do actually pay for it! The problem is closer to a scam now, with the new smart meters, that do measure to reactive power and this will add to the kWh price that already includes the reactive "tax" - double charge!
We do not.
Love your beautiful cat. they are true love savers. and thanks for pointingout that the device is pure fantasy,
This capacitor is huge for it's rating. Looks like they took much smaller one and potted it in the plastic housing.
Thanks for the breakdown, very informative.
كنت بدي اشتري الجهاز المحتال لكن بعد متابعتك انقذتني من الإحتيال
- …a _Diode_ here? Niiiice! ;D
*Nonsense plug! For those who really want to save a lot of electricity: The TEST Foundation published the article "Saving energy in everyday life - save 1,000 €."* The greatest savings potential are energy-saving shower heads, up to 300 € p.a. at a cost of only 20 €.* Otherwise, LED lamps, window sealing strips, switchable power strips, energy-saving heating pumps, programmable thermostats, radiator reflective foils, and timers (e.g. to switch off routers at night) should be installed everywhere. In terms of cost, effort and savings, the most effective insulation measures are roof, cellar ceiling and roller shutter box insulation.
Somebody on YT (I think it was Big Clive) found that these cases are actually the same cases used for electronic bug repellents. There was a grid under the sticker, that looked awfully like it was designed for some kind of speaker.
this one has no grid.
@@DiodeGoneWild So not all of them are the same, it looks.
Plus, that one had a completely different circuit.
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Some 18 years ago I bought a similar device and fixed it at my wife's shop. The device worked as the neighbouring shop guy would ask, how come his shops electricity bill is higher although similar items were used.
Gotta' love Chinglish
@@liam3284 Nope it is his accent.
Let me propose some interesting video material to you:
Car sensors. There are so many interesting sensors used in a car, mainly around the engine, like oxygen, knock, shaft position, pressure ...
if you recreate the circuit as printed on the silkscreen, and without the bodge diode, it still doesnt make much sense
Wonder if the original circuit was just so they could go "quad silicon diode semiconductor technology" at some point
This guys voice and accent scare the hell out of me. He sounds like some sort of Dracula serial killer.
It works for me. After my second bill I saw a reduction in my electricity bill
I think they just chopped up some old circuit boards with random tracks and holes and cobbled the connections together.
I love flying diode,and his dodgy table
Explanation is in god level ❤️👍
Can you cover power factor correction chokes?
"Don't be rude."
Oh, so THAT's why mine blew up: I was cussing and swearing at it the whole time it was plugged in!
youre SMART MAN... thank you for showing..
thank you sir, another good video. very nice.
I guess that the capacitance estimate was off due to the thin cables inside the "miracle device". (24AWG and CCA?)
My god, this guy talking made my day :))))) so funny!
I think they used off the shelf capacitive LED driver and just changed 1M and 100k resistor around and put cap Across supply instead of Across resistor.
Thats nothing power saver. Totally fradulent device. Ild never spent 1$ for it.
Thanks Diode gone wild for your very useful and good explained videos. U are number 1.
I am not sure if it’s true, but what I believe it’s their new advertising shows some small clips of Elecroboom’s videos, which I’m not sure he agreed to, but I may be entirely wrong.
Also, when I saw the advertising , I could smell the fakeness of it, plus I wanted to see the legitimacy of it all so I whent to their website and there where theese images with some comments which where visibly fake.
(Sorry if I repeathed the word “ I “ and if I Made a couple mistakes while tiping, It’s just that I am not English)
P.s: I didn’t mean to go so hard on them (the ones that Made the product)
Looks like the PCB was repurposed from another application, by someone who didn't know what they were doing. The bodged diode was clearly to stop the LED from failing during the reverse cycle. If they had simply replaced the 100 ohm resistor closest to the LED with that diode, as marked on the PCB, it would have had the same result but in a different way, though the PCB marking may be the wrong polarity.
Marvellous video. Thank you.
What a waste of material. What is the relation with Germany? I didn't catch it ... 🙄
No autopsy of the black box? Thats a pitty.
thank you for your help..you have saved me money!
Just wondering now if it does indeed 'clean' or filter the mains by any means?
It has beautiful pictures in the manual, maybe that's something you could test? :)
Jesus Loves you all very much!!!! God Bless everyone!!!!
At least it says Power *Factor* Saver.
The advert I see was a 90% reduction on energy saving ,then on the box it denotes a 30% energy saving,No need to open the box up,just stinks of a scam.PS I like the Hammer House of Horror Dracula accent.
Impossible to understand that language.
there are bad people in this world - who should be locked up. Thanks for this video
Hello. What a dodgy device..
What happens when the green ight goes out
German technique with Chinese characteristics.
That's quite attractive.
That just reminded me of how there were several dodgy chargers he inspected that said "made in Vietnam" in English characters but "made in China" in Cyrillic characters
@@zidane2k1 It was actually Vetnam,not Vietnam.China invented a new country,
What about your clothes washing machine, clothes drier, dishwasher, vacuum cleaner, fridge, freezer, microwave, central heating pump, fan oven, induction hob, power tools (drill, saw, etc) bathroom fan, small appliances with iron core transformer (audio epuipment, bedside clock radio). They are all inductive loads with a transformer, a motor or both. You have more inductive loads than you think.
But they're only inductive when they are switched on, 95% of the time the power factor corrector would be making the power factor worse.
These are mostly small or not on much. Any house-wide power factor correction would have to adapt to the required compensation right now (if we were charged for reactive power which we’re not). Anything not so small should have its own PFC. (I am not au fait with the exact EU legislation.)
If you want to correct for inductive loads you should put the protection as close as possible to the inductive load, ie across its coil. This way the PF is corrected when the device is on but once you turn off the device you remove the overcompensation.
And btw induction cookers should have good PF because they rectify mains and then send it to a high frequency inverter. They don't send mains directly to the coil. And tools with universal motors like vacuums, drills, and some saws will probably already be fairly good. Driers and heaters will also be good because the motor current (even if not compensated) is very low compared to that of the resistive element.
A question I have for others here is what sort of current waveform do microwave ovens draw? The transformer will bias it inductive but the doubler circuit will bias it capacitive.
Power factor, emissions and harmonics are different things though also the same thing depending on your point of view. Emissions is also about common mode stuff which is zero at the meter. I'll stop now.
This device works something like a power-line frequency filter (stabilizes the power line network and reduces the so-called flicker effect - this is when two different electrical potentials pulsate and create more electrostatics on the electrical network in the house) - it's electrical waste that you do not need and appears be like noise or interference and this device eliminates what is good for your electrical devices like PC, Ham radio, TV, radio, etc.
Also this device is good because it prevents electrostatic radiation on the human body.
All lies ...
My dad bought these lol. The user manual is so hard to read because it’s translated in a way that looks like a toddler wrote it.
Love the videos!
Can you guys tell me it is really saved the electricity?
It looks like the resistor network is a voltage divider and current limiter for the LED. Are you sure the diode wasn't in series with the LED? They tend to be necessary as the breakdown reverse voltage of LEDs are quite low. That's why if you replace an LED in a Christmas light string and inadvertently put the replacement backwards, it doesn't light but the rest of the string does.
I’ve seen antiparallel diodes for LEDs before in shitty electronics. They just clamp the voltage on the LED so it doesn’t go into reverse breakdown
It's really in antiparalell. It wastes power in the other halfcycle. Stupid solution of course. And yes, the 100k resistor is slowly getting darker :D.
If I had to listen to this guy daily I’d jump off a cliff to escape..
How can you negatively Comment on the product with testing to see if it it works
Did BigClive send that to you?
No, this one has a completely different circuit, but very similar container. Even a different capacitor.
Excuse me, could we have schematic of your DIY wattmeter measure circuit?
danyk.cz/wmetr_en.html
for the 0.1x range, 3.6 ohm resistor is added in series with the 0.4 ohm one.
Im here for his commedian voice and accent not for the junk Voltex ! Lol
The box, sticker, and manual all look to have the same amazing text as the one you looked at some time ago! Guess they all copy the same set of nonsense.
@DiodeGoneWild -
Its always just a capacitor .... in future they mugt just fill it with junk for weight.
Well, I bit. They sent two. Do I need more than one?
Dostal jsem nápad jak tuhle mršku vyzkoušet.. Vyperu bez toho (mám wattmetr do zásuvky) a vyperu s tim.. stejný prádlo protože míň nebo víc prádla by měl vliv na finální výsledek takže vyperu stejný prádlo 2x.. jsem moc zvědavej co mi ukáže Wattmetr.. teď ještě zbejvá 1 věc.. prdnout do zásuvky wattmetr a do něj tuhle mršku nebo naopak???