I will be honest. I didn't see anyone saying this but I think the G.River is a real life anime character/ protagonist. You know the scene when in good anime your most favourite character dies and your heart sinks. So the fact that the G.River is leaving us in a short time it hurts. It almost feels that I do not want to continue game without him.
I’d definitely want more of solo content as well so that it’s our personal learning without worrying you or someone else mess up. Also it might alleviate the gate keeping and such. But whatever the upcoming changes are, I look forward to them and seeing everyone’s feedback.
Gold River is such a goat, he leaves, game turns into a fiesta, he comes back, hope and rays of sunshine everywhere, I love this man what a cool developer.
He's cool but you gotta remember the game is in this state because it's what he implemented in the first place. So he's literally just fixing his mistakes now
@@tiberiusx22well fixing mistakes is the extraordinary now in those days, companies just make shitty games or console ports to pc like shit and fix it after 1 year if ever fix it
Solo content would 100% make me come back to Lost Ark, I would more than likely no life it like I did on release to catch up. I'm just happy that it's being talked about.
yes that what i want too since i did not have a static group to do anything because not having much time. But think about tons of bot out there just waitting to spam any solo content make me confuse. Bots is the issues have never been fixed
@@achimouwu1503 the reason bots don't do raids outside bus runs is cause it's hard to get it to do the raid mechanics properly. you don't see a any bots doing raids outside bus runs for that reason. who knows maybe they'll nerf the solo content so it's too easy and the bot problem gets worse cause they can progress easier, but hopefully that's not the case. if they release captcha one day, that'll help a lot with the bot issue.
100 % solo content can save this game , a lot of people including me will play it since the gatekeepers in this game are the worst community I have ever seen in an mmo
Bro solo content would be great I quit because I spend a lot of time not playing the game making parties and such. As a new player I just wanted to try to attempt the raids, but even getting into a raid could take an entire day not even playing the game. I think I would return if they implemented some sort of solo mode for the raids so I could learn it without having to wait many hours to even attempt to learn the raids.
@@arcanebeast4661 Thing is for raids is there are a shit ton of mechs to learn and people clown on you for even messing up once, plus the current design makes those mistakes punished real bad. You can’t learn without practicing, so you have to do real raids anyway, but the playerbase is already so used to all of them that new players are shunned off, gatekept, and ppl leave raids if they wipe once and it’s not super time efficient like they want everything to be
Wow, I’ve been playing Lost Ark since the NA release and I’m so excited for these new changes. This last update with the power pass and mokoko event finally got one of my friends to play the game after all these changes I might be able to finally have more of my friends to play and have my cousin return
I always wanna practice a raid by myself thats why I like prokel practice, because I got to learn the fight then have that confidence going in a raid party knowing I won’t be a bag
if i was working on their team i would've offer having brel count as 2 legion raids (each 3 gates as their own legion raid) or first 4 are one and last 2 are one... and i would've make a new unexpected legion raid where Beatrice is the final boss where she is contacting Nineveh and others to "train us" for the challanges and battles coming ahead ... it would be make it a cool different fun "friendly and surprising" legion raid but also challenging and fun (hopfully hard)
I main Bard and just stopped at Clown when Brelshaza released as well. It was the gate-keeping and toxic environment. If the game continues to move towards these changes, I'm happy to return. Until then, I'll wait for the Gold River and his team to cook
Gatekeeping doesent exist. Poor management of ur resources and investments leads to a lot more ppl having better gear than you, therefore u are not getting gatekept, there are just players better than you.
If only they would make all raids like Valtan. It offers a challenge at least for the first few times that you clear it, but it is not overwhelmingly difficult or hard to learn and it can also be solo'd. Removing the over the top raid wipe and one shot mechanics would make the game so much more accessible to new players.
love the changes, really looking forward to them and to what's coming next! i would really like to have the raids to scale to the number of people that entered, not necessarely full 8 ppl party AND/OR remove the wipes/rework them so they almost kill you like the mirror in Kayangel G4, but not wipe the entire party that will have to restart. that would be something which will really change the thigs. but this will also mean that they will have to work a lot to remove/rework some of the mechanics...but honestly, this would matter a lot.
man, I remember making an excel charts for my daily/weekly T3 blue/red stones and for the leapstones and at some point shard charts for my main chars backthen it was noticeable that you gotta farm the mats with bunch of chars in order to push couple of characters at once(at least 2) in so they hit the next raid(kakul back then) now(before the change) the numbers are just insane and even with daily logings and runs(im talking before the chaos\guardian change) doing these runs over a year on daily basis is just too much stuff, I got a job half a year ago and i stopped doing chaos on daily basis, things led to another and i basically ran chaos only on 2 chars/3 chars with rest bonus. now i gotta say that i dont feel as miserable doing chaos the idea of getting g loot is very pog but also I can say with a full heart that you can watch movie/youtube while mashing keys on chaos because of the great change for sure I am a much more happier man thanks to this change.
Well new players in NA right now are stuck at 1490. They can't get in brel's party because they are being gatekeep. If they are the one who started the lobby no one joins them. 2 of my friends that I invited last week are on the verge of quitting because we can't complete a full lobby of players that will do brel 1-2. The POV of new players
Love basically all these changes God River is really the games only hope. We got the chaos dungeon and guardian changes pretty quick aswell so hopefully we see some of these soon
I can't speak for why the mass majority left, but me and all my friends/guildmates left around Brel HM because of honing rates, having tap the same fuckin 4 shitty things 40 times to see 1.6 iLvl increase (at most), and how long it takes for us to be able to start enjoying a new character. I don't think any veteran who has a sour taste in their mouth from Lost Ark would come back unless the honing/RnG/Gamba/Gatcha system is completely reworked. I love Gold River for attempting all of this, but it feels like too little too late.
100% will comeback if they added solo content. Remove Valtan and Vykas wipe mechanic, nerf it until people doesnt see the point of gatekeeping or bussing. Valtan and Vykas will be the desperate raid to do weekly if you got gatekept in clown and above. At current state, most people unable to complete any raid(the most important grind in LA), if you cant even grind to progress, whats the point of playing.
indeed .. as a new player .. even going to valtanon a 1490 ilvl with 30 roster level always got rejected .. solo legion is far more useful rather than getting gatekeeping getting a bus is ok but like clown that cost like 12k is a no no for a beginner
Add shared gems for same class characters so player doesnt have to slavishly transport it... Add in raid (8players) more distiguish between parties, so supports and dps know where support is, not searching for it on minimap :D where the hack supp is..
I think this stuff makes life easier for current players. But I don't see this helping to retain new players. This is just not a game for casual players, and a lot of players are casual nowadays. Raiding is the one and only way to get gear and all players aren't raiders. Let alone raiders who enjoy raids with the amount and types of mechanics in Lost Ark. New players will come in, and will not stay due to being forced to raid. That's not even talking about the gatekeeping. Too much RNG. I remember once I took a break because I had saved up mats for weeks and then failed every hone, got one piece to pity. Failed every amulet transfer attempt, bricked every ability stone, opened up a bunch of card packs and got no LOS cards. No one with limited time wants to play the game for weeks and feel like they haven't made any progress for their time spent. At the end of the day this is game for hardcore raiders, who like forced grouped content. Which is not a large percentage of western players.
Yeah imo some raid changes should come like reducing amount of wipe mechs, but they should overall keep that highlight of their game. Instead they need to add new content that offer alternative means to vertical progression instead of just raids. And I suppose normal raids should be casual, and hard raids can be mostly the same with QoL to make it less infuriating. Then, either a permanent extreme mode or improving hell mode rewards can be there to retain the tough raids that hardcore ppl enjoy. That way you cater to both audiences. But the game desperately needs something to do outside of raids, that can meaningfully progress characters in the same way.
HUGEEE W changes from God River once again. He cares about his baby. He is so passionate about his game, and determined to keep it alive. Imagine having to delete content that took sooo much effort and time to make, but he knows its essential to keeping the game healthy, and make the game more enjoyable for both new and veteran players. I see a bright future for lost ark
meanwhile AGS over here playing like "oh we didn't say you was getting lvl8 gems in the super mokoko pass your getting 8 cd and 8 damage lvl 7 gems guys"
There is no gatekeeping in this game. If someone took my full lvl 10 gems db over ur crappy full lvl7's thats not gatekeeping. Apply to parties similar to you.
I mean deleting Gates is cool but i feel that they can change those gates to like abyss raid for not deleting those boss that are not commanders. I like those non commanders boss fights, some are very fun and other unique to be deleted but i feel there to long to complete all gates. Make them abyss raid (can be solo) and make it somewhat a requirement to do to do that legion raid and a small introduction and lore thing for that legion raid. New players can experiment those cool boss and not looking on UA-cam for"old legion raids" after the deleted gates or something like that
I like the fight mechanics of the game. I enjoy the way it looks. I hate honing. Thats it. If it was changed to a progress bar so that every time I honed I saw tangible progress on a bar I would still be playing. As someone who is not going to spend 10 grand on the game and is not a streamer who can play the game full time as my job, using all of my play time for a week to gather materials and then fail several hones in a row feels like dog crap. It feels like my time is wasted more often then not. I haven't played since destroyer came out for that reason. I have zero desire to waste my time day after day after day.
@@Elliebae_ I never said it should take less time on average. I said that I wish there was tangible progress for all materials spent and I would love the game.. You can go ahead and enjoy the game still. Calm your tender teets, internet tough guy.
It would be nice if they put Hard and Normal mode together and lower the entry ilvl altogether its splitting the playerbase even more and increase search times, also new players trying to enter normal mode Valtan, Vykas simply never find groups and quit the game thinking it’s dead.
There are hopes for the game to become playable by 202x. That's nice. The one thing I'm not a fan of is defining endgame by the 3 latest raids, which means the slow ass progression and gatekeeping will be hit pretty early. At least solo modes may exist which means I can just wait for new solo modes if the community is as terrible as it is now. My fear is that solo modes are going to be a cakewalk... What they really need to do, imo, is deleting hard modes of obsolete raids and make NM never directly wipe the group on a mechanic failure. Also, going forward, new NM raid never wipe the group on the slightest failure of a single person. NM raids are where you learn, HM is where you wipe on repeat.
Entropy can be fun in certain gates in certain raids, but in most of the content the bosses have very short attacks and turn too much for you to land any actual back attacks. 3 of my top 6 characters are entropy and I only enjoy 1 (slayer) because it has a swiftness build.. shock scrapper is too slow and it hurts playing surge blade in a juiced up lobby because you can never get to 20 stacks before the next phase. It’s mostly the entropy classes that has a problem lol
Maple story Reboot is kinda of the same way. It's a Solo game with group activities at the very end game. No Trading No gold exchanging, everything is earned through your hard work and time. Thats why maple story has not died in NA yet. Not saying maplestory reboot is in anyway a good game for beginners. But it's alot better than it was a few years ago.
make game easier for casual and new players in normal mode is good, but dev should also rework market and trade system too. this easy trend might promote more bus, rmt and bot which effect economic. Dont get me wrong i like easy and casual life too, but bad economic is also disaster.
I quite the game like a year ago becasue the game is just not accesible. All the systems, requirements that you need to meet to even get a chance to be invited to a group are ridiculous. Its a pity because the game itself is fun.
Casuals and new players they come in waves with new patches. They hit a wall either stuck in a game mode roadblock or difficulty spikes or something community related like gatekeeping. They lose interest and leave without making much noise.
I'm already not using Entropy as a Slayer tbh (Predator). I'm running hallucination + lv3 adrenaline instead of ambush. I'm losing too little % to give a shit. And I get to upkeep my identity for much much longer.
I wouldn't say the difference between 65% crit damage + 26% damage to enemies vs 25% damage to enemies is a small difference in % and that's just the gear set effect. back attacak skills get another extra 5% bonus damage and 10% crit chance and ambush master gives 25% damage compared to the 6% atk power and 15% crit adrenaline does. but either way, it sounds like these changes that will come out in the future will be perfect for you since they seems to be moving away from directional skills.
@@atomhere Yes, but the damage and identity uptime compensates for it a lot, instead of having all the wasted time chasing tail. Whatever the math, I don't feel like I'm missing any MVP screens I wouldn't have had before. Either way, if I was chasing the big numbers I wouldn't be playing Predator :p Personally, I don't feel like I'm being forced to steer away from what Predator is supposed to be anymore. I feel like I can just focus on maximizing and greeding my damage uptime. And I love it.
huge changes are coming and that's for the better. Hope it' will not take too long to see all of them even throught it will take at the very least 1 to 2 years to see everything I think.
Solo content sounds lit, My idea was making a trixion practise version of raid gates. So example: g1 vykas but you go solo and get no rewards. But doing it with rewards sounds sick too
Please yea! I said this on another video! And got some people who disagrees but I couldn’t find my comment, but lost ark meeds to feel more like bdo!!!!!! Why? The fact are forced to use alts to feed one char, instead of playing the game with a character you actually enjoy, and just grinding. All the light of salvation 10, gems 10, blah blah blah was just all too much. We love the fighting, we love the animations, the feel of combat. So why make us do everything besides that? As a bard main i would rather farm for x days then having to do the other stuff. I have over 1k hours in this game. i want to get kicked from a raid bc im bad, not bc i chose to play the game in a way that’s fun to me( not doing dailys all day everyday)
I've stoped playing when they released Glaivier and had a Soul Fist as my main 1350, Glaivier 1345 and Deathblade right before the third break which I dont remember. Ist it worth to come back again? I felt overwelmed by the boring content and quit because the necessicity of playing alts, did It improve a litle bit? thanks in advance
He called this a 'nano' LOA-ON, and live-streamed for about 4 hours lolll About 90 minutes of changes that were mentioned here, and then he continued on talking about stories etc. He probably ended the streaming because his staff must go home lol
make support deal dmg, if support shields players, upon expire, the shield will do a fancy explosion that deals dmg in a large explosion. then make every support move seems impactful. and make support shield/healing could benefit from damage increase. so support becomes a dps that supports group. problem solve, now people pile up playing support.
Alright, cutie, first, thx for playing support, this game need you. second, it works for you currently, does not mean it works for general population. support is not satisfying to play as a dps main, we need more ppl play support. no new player on support = less raid = dead game very soon. @@Elliebae_
hmm in my opinion nothing can save the game because the concept and the mechanics themselves are pretty bad. i lasted over 1 year with this game but couldnt handle it anymore. some of my friends tried the game but they all left after they couldnt upgrade their gear due to bad luck chances. it also still has these cashgrab asia game vibe...
wait super express is inefficient? but the guy on youtube commented that new players already have gear and it is enough :c, btw i like the direction the game is going, kinda sad that new and returning players have to skip the content, or do it solo, but sadly that is the best way to do it, if people do the express and are gate keeped in every content the game has, how is he gonna progress? so i guess solo content is a great approach and people has less learning to deal with to enjoy the game
i think for the "inefficient" comment they just meant that boosting a new player to legion raids with no game knowledge does not help them learn the game. people who started playing from release got to learn their classes gradually with weeks of chaos dungeons, guardian raids, and abyss dungeons/raids and slowly worked their way up to their first legion raid (and valtan was by far simpler than the latest legion raids). hopefully they allow people to play either/both solo (nerfed for solo gameplay) or group finder (original gameplay) in case they DO have others to play with.
Nooo! Not my Morphe! Now the new players won't recognize my hot Morphe character once it goes live. Can't they just keep Vykas G1 like they did for Clown? I'm happy with other gate removal though! It's the right direction.
Just let new players run a full on practice mode in all the end game dungeons, able to start and stop them at any moment they want. Another thing is, how the FUCK to put together engravings, and gear to get the numbers you need.. Like, dang, not only is honing trash, but then we have to get our gear to a higher quality, thousands of GOLD later! As new RETURNING player it is impossible to gear up and catch up ...
Game's dead in NA the update they thought would help did absolutely nothing. Still no parties, no MM (just sit in queue). Unless you are doing the current endgame content it's impossible to do anything outside of chaos dungeons
I'm glad Goldriver is how he is about this. I agree in 2023? This world's insane enough as is. Gaming should be comfy and enjoyable. Progress should be rewarding and fun, solo should be smooth, group should be less toxic and overall Sadge... I'm happy he's explaining and being informative. :)
"Earn more spend more" - proceeds to nerf gold on Val and vykas 🤦🏼 effecting the new players the most. It's like the blind leading the blind I swear! Bunch of money grabbing crooks
Entropy being removed is Pog People saying it's only affected people with no hands are just bozos. It really hurt the new players especially to like a class and be forced to chase ass not to mention most of those are super slow ass classes with close to no ways to jump to the ass quickly. I would've liked them to change entropy into a 10-15 second buff applied after hitting the back once so it's like a middle ground, a compromise for everyone but this isn't bad either way. GG, thanks for this Gold River!
Nah man. These changes are good, but its not enough. There are away bigger problems than what they are talking about here. Sadly I wont return anytime soon.
what about add resurrects on all raids now? 1 on 4 people raid and 2 for 8, that could help new players on progresion, make veterans less pressure on be aggresive on dps and make less gatekeep.
I might come back to this game after all these changes come to the west. Till then, naw. PLC for gates 1-4 brel...people delusional. They need to just remove titles. The card sets have become much easier to get so no reason to get gate kept by that anymore. Maybe just buff some of the card sets like deep dive to compete with the LOS to ensure players who don't have LOS don't get gate kept because of their cards. I've never used deep dive since I have the LOS so I don't know how good deep dive is compared to LOS. But if people are getting gate kept because of that then that's a route devs can take. 🤷🏽♂️
I'm extremely worried about the removal of Entropy. I get that it can't compete with Hit Master in certain fights so I understand the motivation for wanting a change but outright removal seems a bit much. Unless they're also removing back attack and front attack modifiers from attacks and the Ambush Master and Master Brawler engraving, there will still be a divide between positional and hit master classes. Removing entropy altogether is just going to force people into regearing their characters as they move to nightmare, salvation, or hallucination. They may have a 9/7 rock they lucked into or spent millions on invalidated. This is an important issue for me as my whole top 6 roster is entropy currently. Gold is no issue to me I can get whatever I need to regear my characters, but not everyone is in that position. Also, the gold is nothing our market is so limited due to lack of players it took more than a month of scouring the market to finish a high average quality build I definitely don't want to have to do that again after thinking I was done since ancient accessories are going to be around for a long time. Also, many classes were only viable from a damage standpoint BECAUSE of entropy. Keeping an eye on these classes going forward isn't good enough, balance patches only come twice a year. So if a class becomes shit after Entropy removal (RE Deathblade, Rage Hammer Destroyer, Red Gunlancer) it MIGHT be a year before it regains its place? This is pretty concerning news.
brothre i wouldnt think about this too hard. There will be a solution to this. Obviously theyre not removing entropy and leaving you with nothing at all. Its going to be replaced by something that can utilize ambush master brawler grudge and, also be fun/good. This is why Zeals said that its going to take a LONG time to re work. Theyre not deleting entropy tomorrow, no theyre deleting it when they find a solution.
these are the least of my concerns, gold can always be made back, characters can be regeared and rebalanced. My biggest worry is how interesting it is to play entropy and how satisfying it is, will never be the same. There’s a lot of skill that goes into reading boss patterns and positioning, DRing the back of the boss, positioning the boss for back attackers and taunting are bits of skill play that when aligned and allow you to hit that incredible entropy peak, are extremely satisfying and won’t be possible to replicate if they’re removing the set. It’s a set that rewards good players, if you can’t hang, don’t use the set, it’s that simple. Hate that they’re deleting it
Yeah to me it seems like people just babycried too much about it instead of learning raid patterns/their own classes better. For instance Akkan is very entropy friendly besides G3 last phase in hm
Good overall. Worried couple things. Entropy remove sounds could be disaster, but could be good too, idk. Ghost ship earnable still? Hope new player can still. Last, raid with solo become more dead content? Idk we will see
As Long as they force me to play 6 Alts and not be able to focus on 1 toon. If I have to push 6 toons to keep my upgrades up to the swipers I will never play again. They need to offer a Main Toon Selection and give me 6x the rewards so I can push my main up without swiping 1000s into the game to keep getting invited into Raids.
I hated your content and didn't want to watch it unless you had something interesting that I wanted to hear, point blank I look at you differently after hearing your l bit about no mokokko left behind... Sir I'm with you!
The game needs to add alternative content with progression on par with raid rewards, and normal raids should be quite casual. Wipe mechanics should be minimal, and increased rewards for hell mode so that hardcore players still have something to grind if they love having a ton of mechanics. I don’t agree with removing gates, I think instead they should be reworked to make it less of a hassle and quicker. They should minimize removing content and instead revitalize it / improve it. The game has been moving in a right direction but will need a lil more for it to feel worth and fun playing.
The game honestly just doesn't have enough to do for people who aren't into making 10 alts and just want to main a character. I have played through the story and got to 1490 item level and log on do all the content list stuff and log off for the week then proceed to do boring checklist shit for the rest of the week. I'm not 2 weeks into the game and about ready to quit. I want something to grind, I tried grinding Chaos Dungeons and that was okay for a time, but it doesn't really help me progress my character. I want to be able to grind content as much as I want. Not do 1 dungeon and raid, 1 guardian, and 2 chaos dungeons. It's such a strange game structure and I'm so disappointed in the endgame. I'll be following the updates, but I'm likely gone at this point.
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I will be honest. I didn't see anyone saying this but I think the G.River is a real life anime character/ protagonist. You know the scene when in good anime your most favourite character dies and your heart sinks. So the fact that the G.River is leaving us in a short time it hurts. It almost feels that I do not want to continue game without him.
solo versions of previous raids could help this game so much
Yeah, let the people catch to the veterans in solo ways is the way i think?
yep very poggies even with mechs that copy original one so the new players get confy gradualy to the top content
I’d definitely want more of solo content as well so that it’s our personal learning without worrying you or someone else mess up. Also it might alleviate the gate keeping and such. But whatever the upcoming changes are, I look forward to them and seeing everyone’s feedback.
Gold River is such a goat, he leaves, game turns into a fiesta, he comes back, hope and rays of sunshine everywhere, I love this man what a cool developer.
basically Kadan Irl. Arkesia's last hope
He also invented pheons
He's cool but you gotta remember the game is in this state because it's what he implemented in the first place. So he's literally just fixing his mistakes now
@@tiberiusx22 I mean he fixed it once by creating legion raids, Im sure he can do it again
@@tiberiusx22well fixing mistakes is the extraordinary now in those days, companies just make shitty games or console ports to pc like shit and fix it after 1 year if ever fix it
Solo content would 100% make me come back to Lost Ark, I would more than likely no life it like I did on release to catch up. I'm just happy that it's being talked about.
yes that what i want too since i did not have a static group to do anything because not having much time. But think about tons of bot out there just waitting to spam any solo content make me confuse. Bots is the issues have never been fixed
@@achimouwu1503 the reason bots don't do raids outside bus runs is cause it's hard to get it to do the raid mechanics properly. you don't see a any bots doing raids outside bus runs for that reason. who knows maybe they'll nerf the solo content so it's too easy and the bot problem gets worse cause they can progress easier, but hopefully that's not the case. if they release captcha one day, that'll help a lot with the bot issue.
100% agree! Would love solo content with raids and don't have to worry about being gate kept 🤦♂️
100 % solo content can save this game , a lot of people including me will play it since the gatekeepers in this game are the worst community I have ever seen in an mmo
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Bro solo content would be great I quit because I spend a lot of time not playing the game making parties and such. As a new player I just wanted to try to attempt the raids, but even getting into a raid could take an entire day not even playing the game. I think I would return if they implemented some sort of solo mode for the raids so I could learn it without having to wait many hours to even attempt to learn the raids.
Agreed
What do you think would solo content teach you to learn for Group content?
@@arcanebeast4661 Thing is for raids is there are a shit ton of mechs to learn and people clown on you for even messing up once, plus the current design makes those mistakes punished real bad. You can’t learn without practicing, so you have to do real raids anyway, but the playerbase is already so used to all of them that new players are shunned off, gatekept, and ppl leave raids if they wipe once and it’s not super time efficient like they want everything to be
@NinTheLost there are multiple learning groups in nae everyday.
Agree!! getting a group to learn raids with takes too long, being able to solo whenever I want sounds like such a good idea🎉
Wow, I’ve been playing Lost Ark since the NA release and I’m so excited for these new changes. This last update with the power pass and mokoko event finally got one of my friends to play the game after all these changes I might be able to finally have more of my friends to play and have my cousin return
What about the update? Video too long to watch. You still need to do main quest right to do dungeons?
@@Askelad23just watch lmao
I always wanna practice a raid by myself thats why I like prokel practice, because I got to learn the fight then have that confidence going in a raid party knowing I won’t be a bag
if i was working on their team i would've offer having brel count as 2 legion raids (each 3 gates as their own legion raid) or first 4 are one and last 2 are one...
and i would've make a new unexpected legion raid where Beatrice is the final boss where she is contacting Nineveh and others to "train us" for the challanges and battles coming ahead ... it would be make it a cool different fun "friendly and surprising" legion raid but also challenging and fun (hopfully hard)
I main Bard and just stopped at Clown when Brelshaza released as well. It was the gate-keeping and toxic environment. If the game continues to move towards these changes, I'm happy to return. Until then, I'll wait for the Gold River and his team to cook
Gatekeeping doesent exist. Poor management of ur resources and investments leads to a lot more ppl having better gear than you, therefore u are not getting gatekept, there are just players better than you.
@@Elliebae_ toxic mfer
@@Elliebae_ you could not be more wrong. The fact you have said what you have said likely means you are part of the toxic raid gatekeepers.
@@Elliebae_ This may be the stupidest comment I have ever read. Congrats, that's impressive.
If only they would make all raids like Valtan. It offers a challenge at least for the first few times that you clear it, but it is not overwhelmingly difficult or hard to learn and it can also be solo'd. Removing the over the top raid wipe and one shot mechanics would make the game so much more accessible to new players.
Yeah, more acessibility and lowering the gate keeping of veterans too
love the changes, really looking forward to them and to what's coming next!
i would really like to have the raids to scale to the number of people that entered, not necessarely full 8 ppl party AND/OR remove the wipes/rework them so they almost kill you like the mirror in Kayangel G4, but not wipe the entire party that will have to restart. that would be something which will really change the thigs. but this will also mean that they will have to work a lot to remove/rework some of the mechanics...but honestly, this would matter a lot.
man, I remember making an excel charts for my daily/weekly T3 blue/red stones and for the leapstones and at some point shard charts for my main chars
backthen it was noticeable that you gotta farm the mats with bunch of chars in order to push couple of characters at once(at least 2) in so they hit the next raid(kakul back then)
now(before the change) the numbers are just insane and even with daily logings and runs(im talking before the chaos\guardian change) doing these runs over a year on daily basis is just too much stuff, I got a job half a year ago and i stopped doing chaos on daily basis, things led to another and i basically ran chaos only on 2 chars/3 chars with rest bonus.
now i gotta say that i dont feel as miserable doing chaos
the idea of getting g loot is very pog but also I can say with a full heart that you can watch movie/youtube while mashing keys on chaos because of the great change
for sure I am a much more happier man thanks to this change.
Well new players in NA right now are stuck at 1490. They can't get in brel's party because they are being gatekeep. If they are the one who started the lobby no one joins them. 2 of my friends that I invited last week are on the verge of quitting because we can't complete a full lobby of players that will do brel 1-2. The POV of new players
ive always said that raid would be more fun if they went from 8m to 4m instead. Less toxic and can just run the raids with your friends
Love basically all these changes God River is really the games only hope. We got the chaos dungeon and guardian changes pretty quick aswell so hopefully we see some of these soon
I can't speak for why the mass majority left, but me and all my friends/guildmates left around Brel HM because of honing rates, having tap the same fuckin 4 shitty things 40 times to see 1.6 iLvl increase (at most), and how long it takes for us to be able to start enjoying a new character. I don't think any veteran who has a sour taste in their mouth from Lost Ark would come back unless the honing/RnG/Gamba/Gatcha system is completely reworked. I love Gold River for attempting all of this, but it feels like too little too late.
100% will comeback if they added solo content. Remove Valtan and Vykas wipe mechanic, nerf it until people doesnt see the point of gatekeeping or bussing. Valtan and Vykas will be the desperate raid to do weekly if you got gatekept in clown and above. At current state, most people unable to complete any raid(the most important grind in LA), if you cant even grind to progress, whats the point of playing.
indeed .. as a new player .. even going to valtanon a 1490 ilvl with 30 roster level always got rejected ..
solo legion is far more useful rather than getting gatekeeping
getting a bus is ok but like clown that cost like 12k is a no no for a beginner
Why would u have to do clown imediatly at 1490?
Add shared gems for same class characters so player doesnt have to slavishly transport it... Add in raid (8players) more distiguish between parties, so supports and dps know where support is, not searching for it on minimap :D where the hack supp is..
I think this stuff makes life easier for current players. But I don't see this helping to retain new players. This is just not a game for casual players, and a lot of players are casual nowadays.
Raiding is the one and only way to get gear and all players aren't raiders. Let alone raiders who enjoy raids with the amount and types of mechanics in Lost Ark. New players will come in, and will not stay due to being forced to raid. That's not even talking about the gatekeeping.
Too much RNG. I remember once I took a break because I had saved up mats for weeks and then failed every hone, got one piece to pity. Failed every amulet transfer attempt, bricked every ability stone, opened up a bunch of card packs and got no LOS cards. No one with limited time wants to play the game for weeks and feel like they haven't made any progress for their time spent.
At the end of the day this is game for hardcore raiders, who like forced grouped content. Which is not a large percentage of western players.
Yeah imo some raid changes should come like reducing amount of wipe mechs, but they should overall keep that highlight of their game. Instead they need to add new content that offer alternative means to vertical progression instead of just raids. And I suppose normal raids should be casual, and hard raids can be mostly the same with QoL to make it less infuriating. Then, either a permanent extreme mode or improving hell mode rewards can be there to retain the tough raids that hardcore ppl enjoy. That way you cater to both audiences. But the game desperately needs something to do outside of raids, that can meaningfully progress characters in the same way.
please solo content, i need that, cause is so hard playing with toxic player
that's totally truth the game now is very hard and not rewarding as its difficulty and new comers aren't welcomed
HUGEEE W changes from God River once again. He cares about his baby. He is so passionate about his game, and determined to keep it alive. Imagine having to delete content that took sooo much effort and time to make, but he knows its essential to keeping the game healthy, and make the game more enjoyable for both new and veteran players. I see a bright future for lost ark
meanwhile AGS over here playing like "oh we didn't say you was getting lvl8 gems in the super mokoko pass your getting 8 cd and 8 damage lvl 7 gems guys"
Solo content and I will reinstall in an instant. I hate LA's gate keeping.
There is no gatekeeping in this game. If someone took my full lvl 10 gems db over ur crappy full lvl7's thats not gatekeeping. Apply to parties similar to you.
I mean deleting Gates is cool but i feel that they can change those gates to like abyss raid for not deleting those boss that are not commanders.
I like those non commanders boss fights, some are very fun and other unique to be deleted but i feel there to long to complete all gates.
Make them abyss raid (can be solo) and make it somewhat a requirement to do to do that legion raid and a small introduction and lore thing for that legion raid.
New players can experiment those cool boss and not looking on UA-cam for"old legion raids" after the deleted gates or something like that
I like the fight mechanics of the game. I enjoy the way it looks. I hate honing. Thats it. If it was changed to a progress bar so that every time I honed I saw tangible progress on a bar I would still be playing. As someone who is not going to spend 10 grand on the game and is not a streamer who can play the game full time as my job, using all of my play time for a week to gather materials and then fail several hones in a row feels like dog crap. It feels like my time is wasted more often then not. I haven't played since destroyer came out for that reason. I have zero desire to waste my time day after day after day.
Is a kmmorpg. Literally thats a you problem. Game's a marathon. Sorry u cant be 1600 in 2 days of 1 hour of playtime per day
@@Elliebae_ I never said it should take less time on average. I said that I wish there was tangible progress for all materials spent and I would love the game.. You can go ahead and enjoy the game still. Calm your tender teets, internet tough guy.
It would be nice if they put Hard and Normal mode together and lower the entry ilvl altogether its splitting the playerbase even more and increase search times, also new players trying to enter normal mode Valtan, Vykas simply never find groups and quit the game thinking it’s dead.
Exactly
There are hopes for the game to become playable by 202x. That's nice. The one thing I'm not a fan of is defining endgame by the 3 latest raids, which means the slow ass progression and gatekeeping will be hit pretty early. At least solo modes may exist which means I can just wait for new solo modes if the community is as terrible as it is now. My fear is that solo modes are going to be a cakewalk... What they really need to do, imo, is deleting hard modes of obsolete raids and make NM never directly wipe the group on a mechanic failure. Also, going forward, new NM raid never wipe the group on the slightest failure of a single person. NM raids are where you learn, HM is where you wipe on repeat.
My main issue is the honing, and the gold needed to buy items and well.. the items are very high price
entropy is the most interesting gear set in the game. only part of this update I am not a fan of is removing it
Entropy can be fun in certain gates in certain raids, but in most of the content the bosses have very short attacks and turn too much for you to land any actual back attacks. 3 of my top 6 characters are entropy and I only enjoy 1 (slayer) because it has a swiftness build.. shock scrapper is too slow and it hurts playing surge blade in a juiced up lobby because you can never get to 20 stacks before the next phase. It’s mostly the entropy classes that has a problem lol
Maple story Reboot is kinda of the same way. It's a Solo game with group activities at the very end game. No Trading No gold exchanging, everything is earned through your hard work and time. Thats why maple story has not died in NA yet. Not saying maplestory reboot is in anyway a good game for beginners. But it's alot better than it was a few years ago.
love your video man, cant wait for the solo content, maybe will comeback to lost ark for this
make game easier for casual and new players in normal mode is good, but dev should also rework market and trade system too. this easy trend might promote more bus, rmt and bot which effect economic. Dont get me wrong i like easy and casual life too, but bad economic is also disaster.
I have over 5k hours playtime and anything make new/old players life easier is so good for game.
I hope it won't take too long to make these changes
After quitting 6 months ago (3.5k hrs) and coming back, i just cant get myself to do raids that have higher probabilities of being jailed again.
Gold River works his ASS OFF. I hope he doesn't go overboard again
I quite the game like a year ago becasue the game is just not accesible. All the systems, requirements that you need to meet to even get a chance to be invited to a group are ridiculous. Its a pity because the game itself is fun.
I would love a legion raid for Banda, that fight is visually stunning
Casuals and new players they come in waves with new patches. They hit a wall either stuck in a game mode roadblock or difficulty spikes or something community related like gatekeeping. They lose interest and leave without making much noise.
I'm already not using Entropy as a Slayer tbh (Predator). I'm running hallucination + lv3 adrenaline instead of ambush. I'm losing too little % to give a shit. And I get to upkeep my identity for much much longer.
I wouldn't say the difference between 65% crit damage + 26% damage to enemies vs 25% damage to enemies is a small difference in % and that's just the gear set effect. back attacak skills get another extra 5% bonus damage and 10% crit chance and ambush master gives 25% damage compared to the 6% atk power and 15% crit adrenaline does.
but either way, it sounds like these changes that will come out in the future will be perfect for you since they seems to be moving away from directional skills.
@@atomhere Yes, but the damage and identity uptime compensates for it a lot, instead of having all the wasted time chasing tail. Whatever the math, I don't feel like I'm missing any MVP screens I wouldn't have had before. Either way, if I was chasing the big numbers I wouldn't be playing Predator :p
Personally, I don't feel like I'm being forced to steer away from what Predator is supposed to be anymore. I feel like I can just focus on maximizing and greeding my damage uptime. And I love it.
All Ws, all going correct direction, But HOW LONG Tho.
this makes me wanna comeback thats some nice changes
huge changes are coming and that's for the better. Hope it' will not take too long to see all of them even throught it will take at the very least 1 to 2 years to see everything I think.
Solo content sounds lit, My idea was making a trixion practise version of raid gates. So example: g1 vykas but you go solo and get no rewards. But doing it with rewards sounds sick too
Ok. Cool. Maybe i might come back. But how bad are the bots in the USA servers? Are they gone? Can i pay for priority queue?
Please yea! I said this on another video! And got some people who disagrees but I couldn’t find my comment, but lost ark meeds to feel more like bdo!!!!!!
Why?
The fact are forced to use alts to feed one char, instead of playing the game with a character you actually enjoy, and just grinding. All the light of salvation 10, gems 10, blah blah blah was just all too much. We love the fighting, we love the animations, the feel of combat. So why make us do everything besides that? As a bard main i would rather farm for x days then having to do the other stuff. I have over 1k hours in this game. i want to get kicked from a raid bc im bad, not bc i chose to play the game in a way that’s fun to me( not doing dailys all day everyday)
I've stoped playing when they released Glaivier and had a Soul Fist as my main 1350, Glaivier 1345 and Deathblade right before the third break which I dont remember. Ist it worth to come back again? I felt overwelmed by the boring content and quit because the necessicity of playing alts, did It improve a litle bit?
thanks in advance
No, its still the same problem. If you don't play 6 characters, you can still keep up yeah, but only if you play everyday for 2 years.
He called this a 'nano' LOA-ON, and live-streamed for about 4 hours lolll About 90 minutes of changes that were mentioned here, and then he continued on talking about stories etc. He probably ended the streaming because his staff must go home lol
why would it save it? the biggest pain in the butt is all the honing shit. deleting content wont do shit
make support deal dmg, if support shields players, upon expire, the shield will do a fancy explosion that deals dmg in a large explosion.
then make every support move seems impactful. and make support shield/healing could benefit from damage increase.
so support becomes a dps that supports group. problem solve, now people pile up playing support.
this is the stupidest ideea i ever read. support is fun as it is
Alright, cutie,
first, thx for playing support, this game need you.
second, it works for you currently, does not mean it works for general population. support is not satisfying to play as a dps main, we need more ppl play support. no new player on support = less raid = dead game very soon. @@Elliebae_
This game definitely not for casuals at all, extremely frustrating and hard. And most of the players are casuals... Glad the devs realized that
this game is scary. people who were burned out from dailies are suddenly being activated like they're a sleeper cell.
Would absolutely love more solo stuff
Yes finally no one left behind thats what new player waiting for that man save the game for real
hmm in my opinion nothing can save the game because the concept and the mechanics themselves are pretty bad. i lasted over 1 year with this game but couldnt handle it anymore. some of my friends tried the game but they all left after they couldnt upgrade their gear due to bad luck chances. it also still has these cashgrab asia game vibe...
skill issue. i have no issues i had multiple 1580's ready for akkan day 1
wait super express is inefficient? but the guy on youtube commented that new players already have gear and it is enough :c, btw i like the direction the game is going, kinda sad that new and returning players have to skip the content, or do it solo, but sadly that is the best way to do it, if people do the express and are gate keeped in every content the game has, how is he gonna progress? so i guess solo content is a great approach and people has less learning to deal with to enjoy the game
i think for the "inefficient" comment they just meant that boosting a new player to legion raids with no game knowledge does not help them learn the game. people who started playing from release got to learn their classes gradually with weeks of chaos dungeons, guardian raids, and abyss dungeons/raids and slowly worked their way up to their first legion raid (and valtan was by far simpler than the latest legion raids).
hopefully they allow people to play either/both solo (nerfed for solo gameplay) or group finder (original gameplay) in case they DO have others to play with.
In KR isn't. Here it's still good
I'm a bit confused with brel... So 1&3 every week and 4&6 every 2 weeks?
Nooo! Not my Morphe! Now the new players won't recognize my hot Morphe character once it goes live.
Can't they just keep Vykas G1 like they did for Clown? I'm happy with other gate removal though! It's the right direction.
I hope they do it good man
Just let new players run a full on practice mode in all the end game dungeons, able to start and stop them at any moment they want.
Another thing is, how the FUCK to put together engravings, and gear to get the numbers you need..
Like, dang, not only is honing trash, but then we have to get our gear to a higher quality, thousands of GOLD later!
As new RETURNING player it is impossible to gear up and catch up ...
Goldriver is the heart of the game!
Game's dead in NA the update they thought would help did absolutely nothing. Still no parties, no MM (just sit in queue). Unless you are doing the current endgame content it's impossible to do anything outside of chaos dungeons
I will miss G6 weekly, it's one of the few raids I still enjoy
Goldriver is my new bias much love
I'm glad Goldriver is how he is about this. I agree in 2023? This world's insane enough as is. Gaming should be comfy and enjoyable. Progress should be rewarding and fun, solo should be smooth, group should be less toxic and overall Sadge...
I'm happy he's explaining and being informative. :)
Damn bro, lost ark is such a good game, i hope he saves it and them i return :x
RIP 600+ pheons that I spent to make my 4 glaives entropy with that super late balance patch
I would prefer raids from 1 to 8 players (our choice, so solo inclued)
Thanks!
"Earn more spend more" - proceeds to nerf gold on Val and vykas 🤦🏼 effecting the new players the most. It's like the blind leading the blind I swear! Bunch of money grabbing crooks
so TL:DR Let him cook.
I look forward to Lost Ark 2 when we start to see these changes live and the game becomes more fun again
gold river is back which means the 3 directors that supposed to "replace" him are gone from their newly promoted roles..lol
at 27:54 i want this wallpaper, the thaemine eclipse update
anyone knows how can i get it ?
Entropy being removed is Pog
People saying it's only affected people with no hands are just bozos. It really hurt the new players especially to like a class and be forced to chase ass not to mention most of those are super slow ass classes with close to no ways to jump to the ass quickly.
I would've liked them to change entropy into a 10-15 second buff applied after hitting the back once so it's like a middle ground, a compromise for everyone but this isn't bad either way.
GG, thanks for this Gold River!
I went back to Guild Wars 2 jokingly and now I can't stop playing. The new expansion story and events are so good. OMG
Nah man. These changes are good, but its not enough. There are away bigger problems than what they are talking about here. Sadly I wont return anytime soon.
So in 2025 us who want to return full time / new prayers will finally get a decent game? 🎉🎉🎉 Cant wait 😴😴😴💤💤💤
STAY NOTED
what about add resurrects on all raids now? 1 on 4 people raid and 2 for 8, that could help new players on progresion, make veterans less pressure on be aggresive on dps and make less gatekeep.
I might come back to this game after all these changes come to the west. Till then, naw. PLC for gates 1-4 brel...people delusional. They need to just remove titles. The card sets have become much easier to get so no reason to get gate kept by that anymore. Maybe just buff some of the card sets like deep dive to compete with the LOS to ensure players who don't have LOS don't get gate kept because of their cards. I've never used deep dive since I have the LOS so I don't know how good deep dive is compared to LOS. But if people are getting gate kept because of that then that's a route devs can take. 🤷🏽♂️
If I understand correctly, entropy set gear is being axed, well I used it for one of my characters, what would I be using instead then?
I'm extremely worried about the removal of Entropy. I get that it can't compete with Hit Master in certain fights so I understand the motivation for wanting a change but outright removal seems a bit much. Unless they're also removing back attack and front attack modifiers from attacks and the Ambush Master and Master Brawler engraving, there will still be a divide between positional and hit master classes. Removing entropy altogether is just going to force people into regearing their characters as they move to nightmare, salvation, or hallucination. They may have a 9/7 rock they lucked into or spent millions on invalidated. This is an important issue for me as my whole top 6 roster is entropy currently. Gold is no issue to me I can get whatever I need to regear my characters, but not everyone is in that position. Also, the gold is nothing our market is so limited due to lack of players it took more than a month of scouring the market to finish a high average quality build I definitely don't want to have to do that again after thinking I was done since ancient accessories are going to be around for a long time. Also, many classes were only viable from a damage standpoint BECAUSE of entropy. Keeping an eye on these classes going forward isn't good enough, balance patches only come twice a year. So if a class becomes shit after Entropy removal (RE Deathblade, Rage Hammer Destroyer, Red Gunlancer) it MIGHT be a year before it regains its place? This is pretty concerning news.
brothre i wouldnt think about this too hard. There will be a solution to this. Obviously theyre not removing entropy and leaving you with nothing at all. Its going to be replaced by something that can utilize ambush master brawler grudge and, also be fun/good. This is why Zeals said that its going to take a LONG time to re work. Theyre not deleting entropy tomorrow, no theyre deleting it when they find a solution.
Too bad, is getting remove ur in the minority
iam sure they mean reworking all positional attack system not about set entropy
these are the least of my concerns, gold can always be made back, characters can be regeared and rebalanced. My biggest worry is how interesting it is to play entropy and how satisfying it is, will never be the same. There’s a lot of skill that goes into reading boss patterns and positioning, DRing the back of the boss, positioning the boss for back attackers and taunting are bits of skill play that when aligned and allow you to hit that incredible entropy peak, are extremely satisfying and won’t be possible to replicate if they’re removing the set. It’s a set that rewards good players, if you can’t hang, don’t use the set, it’s that simple. Hate that they’re deleting it
Yeah to me it seems like people just babycried too much about it instead of learning raid patterns/their own classes better. For instance Akkan is very entropy friendly besides G3 last phase in hm
Looks great.
Good overall. Worried couple things. Entropy remove sounds could be disaster, but could be good too, idk. Ghost ship earnable still? Hope new player can still. Last, raid with solo become more dead content? Idk we will see
mechs are too mechanical its no dynamic like other games, you cant make any mistake thats stresful, bad designed and no fun at all
People are not going back for any of this. It's far too late...
UE5? AI autofill for raids? Honing re-design? Pheon removal? Removing censor?
Nah.
Kayangal g2 only needs the knock off to be removed nothing else needs to be changed
As Long as they force me to play 6 Alts and not be able to focus on 1 toon. If I have to push 6 toons to keep my upgrades up to the swipers I will never play again. They need to offer a Main Toon Selection and give me 6x the rewards so I can push my main up without swiping 1000s into the game to keep getting invited into Raids.
God bless gold river, thank you
So conclusion wake me up in 2026-7 when LA becomes a good game :D
I hated your content and didn't want to watch it unless you had something interesting that I wanted to hear, point blank I look at you differently after hearing your l bit about no mokokko left behind... Sir I'm with you!
The game needs to add alternative content with progression on par with raid rewards, and normal raids should be quite casual. Wipe mechanics should be minimal, and increased rewards for hell mode so that hardcore players still have something to grind if they love having a ton of mechanics. I don’t agree with removing gates, I think instead they should be reworked to make it less of a hassle and quicker. They should minimize removing content and instead revitalize it / improve it. The game has been moving in a right direction but will need a lil more for it to feel worth and fun playing.
They will never do it and they said they're OK with losing players that will not do end game raids.
Only if the content is as challenging as raids
Those changes look good but still waiting for Pheon to be erased out of existense before I ever consider playing again.
The game honestly just doesn't have enough to do for people who aren't into making 10 alts and just want to main a character. I have played through the story and got to 1490 item level and log on do all the content list stuff and log off for the week then proceed to do boring checklist shit for the rest of the week. I'm not 2 weeks into the game and about ready to quit. I want something to grind, I tried grinding Chaos Dungeons and that was okay for a time, but it doesn't really help me progress my character. I want to be able to grind content as much as I want. Not do 1 dungeon and raid, 1 guardian, and 2 chaos dungeons. It's such a strange game structure and I'm so disappointed in the endgame. I'll be following the updates, but I'm likely gone at this point.
dont delete it just make it optional :c
ill return when it already much better game, and if poe 2 is suck, if not. good luck on Chinese audiences