Gibson Les Paul Pickup Showdown - Battle Of the PAF
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- Опубліковано 19 гру 2023
- Have you ever wondered what pickups sound best in a Les Paul? Today we start to hack away at that mystery by comparing three different Les Pauls with three different sets of pickups against one another. The 2019 Les Paul HP (Burstbucker Pros) vs 2007 Autumn Burst Supreme (490R/498T) vs 2001 Custom Shop Les Paul Florentine (57 Classics). Which one reigns supreme to your ears?
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Totally agree! I love how they sound!
Awesome video. Great comparison. I found myself really loving the Burst Bucker tones. I prefer the Florentine's looks but it seemed like you could really hear more overall from the BB's. Thanks again for sharing your collection and knowledge. All the work you're doing is appreciated.
The burstbuckers were overall my choice. Burstbucker pros to be exact because there are 4 types at least and they're all different. I think the 57s were the most consistent. I'm thinking I may do a video of three different Paul's with the same pickups and see how close they actually sound!
I am definitely a fan of those Burstbuckers. I’ll take more of everything, please - they’re brilliant! But they all have a great vibe and I can see how they’d all serve a purpose.
I’d love to hear how the Gibson LP Modern stacks up against the Epiphone LP Modern. The Burstbuckers and Probuckers have different specs, but the Probuckers really hold their own with Alnico 2 and 3 magnets - and you’re getting an insane value at $699 (although the tops on the Gibson LP Moderns are ridiculously gorgeous, but the Epiphone still captures a similar vibe). I mean, the Burstbuckers definitely are going to have a bit more oomph and sparkle as I’d guess, but those Probuckers are definite punching well above their $699 price class - especially with orange drops, out of phase push pull, and single coil tones.
Would also be fun to swap pickups from both models to see if the Epiphone would sound like the Gibson and vice versa, lol. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone try that move!
It might be cool to compare similar Gibson and Epiphone models like both Moderns to understand what the differences ultimately sound like. There are lots of brother-sister models from Gibson and Epiphone. Could be fun to try and stack them against each other!
No comparison. The probuckers sound HORRIBLE to my ears. I couldn't stand them on the alex lifeson. That's my big gripe with the lifeson is that it should have had American gibson pickups. There's no contest. Merry Christmas masha!!!
Overall I enjoyed the 57 classics the most, although the burstbuckers were a close second. It would be interesting to see the difference between a 57 and a 57+ pickup. I may be prejudiced against the 490/498 pickups though, they're what came stock in a 2013 lpj that I have, but were mounted with a weird plastic pickup cover that made them look like emgs. I swapped them out for a pair of slashbuckers from a Gibson USA Slash Standard, which are supposed to be a Gibson copy of a Seymour Duncan copy of Gibson PAFs, and they sound so much better than the old pickups in my opinion.
I would have probably told you those were my favorite before this video and go figure they're my least favorite of all of them, although they all sound great. The 57s are def the most consistent. I'm thinking about doing a video with 3 guitars w 57s to see how consistent they actually are, maybe one w 57+. I'm curious how much they sound the same from les paul to les paul. Thanks for watching and happy holidays. Please subscribe and join the madness 🙌
Awesome video! Esp. love the editing - both the cut-ins and the back-to-back comparisons. Would love to hear your thoughts on the different Burstbuckers (ie. 1, 2, 3, Pro and 61s). Generally I liked the sound of the Classic 57s the most, probably because my first experience with hearing a real Gibson was when my buddy rented a Les Paul from Long & McQuade. That guitar had 490s in them (which I later found out from Jim Decola are identical to the Classic 57s - not the 498 though) - and really left a lasting impression on me as to what a premium electric guitar should sound like!
Love jim, he's such a great dude. I have that darkfire that has burstbucker 1s in them. I have 61s in two different les Paul's that are some type of burstbucker. I have another standard with the pros. I'm thinking I need to do a video of three different Paul's with the same pickups to see how close they sound or if u could have one paul w 57s that sounds way better or different than another with the same pickups.
I gotta say Benny: Since day one, I’ve been impressed with your infectious enthusiasm for ALL things Guitar & Music!!! That said: 57 Classics are a solid favorite for many of us-or maybe I should say, those of us old enough to have been thru the gamut!!! BUT, then again, some times, it matters not @ 3:AM when we find ourselves writing the best riffs on the planet-that we can’t quite remember bcuz we forgot to hit The Rec-Button😢😱LOL!!! I also like the Burst-Bucker-Pros as opposed to the first incarnation of Burst-Buckers that weren’t wax-potted -basically bcuz they became microphonic with higher gain settings or high-gain amps!!! - Great episode Benny!!! Keep up the great work brother!!!
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Thanks so much for your support since the jump. I appreciate you, happy holidays, my friend. Thank you for being a part of what I do 🙏
@@TheNeuroticGuitarist Thanx Benny!! Same to you and yours as well!!!
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Think my comment got lost in the live chat after premiere ended. Keep doing what your doing Benny the high energy positive delivery of the long form deep dive on topics is great. I always learn something new. I also dug you vid on trading. Given your experience in trading for gear that can often be targets for counterfeiting or “replicas”. Maybe make a video on your specific red flags or minimum assurances to gain confidence in a deal prior to making it (don’t recall that being covered much previously but I could be wrong).
That's actually a really good one dude! I've mentioned some stuff at a high level but not really specifically. I think that I can do something with that in a future video. Thanks so much for taking the time to watch. Which guitar did you dig the most in this video?
@@TheNeuroticGuitaristvisually, the florentine hands down. I’m a sucker for a hollow body and that top is unreal. Sonically, for clean arpeggios and lead, the burstbuckers all the way. Felt they all lacked a little something in the clean “strummy strummies” though. Either too muddy for the BB’s or not enough low end on the other two.
@@lordrumblegut8982 interesting. Duly noted. I appreciate it, man
I have a friend who has 68 gold top excellent condition. great video!
Rock on Dino 🤘 which set of pups did you dig the most???
What a fun video Benny. Personally, I'm a huge fan of the 57 Classic. Years ago when I first played them, I started to rip out all of the pickups in my Les Paul & ES-335 guitars & drop those in to them. They made my Gibson & Epiphone's all sound better. Then some years ago Joel at Chicago Music Exchange suggested I give the Lollar low winds a try. Those, are my new favorites! What a tone, love them!! I left the Classic's where they were, but anything new, it's the Lollar's. Then I also tried the Fralin's Pure PAF and I like those too, but those are in just one Les Paul. So, for the purposes of your video, I'll go with the Classic 57's all day long. Again, great video Benny, I appreciate all the time you have invested in your video's!
The 57s are def the most consistent without question. I'm curious how consistent they are from les paul to les paul so I think the next video may be two identical guitars w 57s and one w 57+ happy holidays lin and thanks for watching and taking the time to comment 🙏
Now that ought to be interesting. With video's like you posted today, I wear my headset so I can really hear the difference. It's still not the best, but better than the laptop speakers, lol. For that video I'll definitely wear the headset. I look forward to that! Happy Holidays to you & yours Benny. Careful out there! Hey, your videos are entertaining, interesting & full of info. Talk to ya.@@TheNeuroticGuitarist
@linheitzig9227 I appreciate you giving the video it's due by wearing headphones and sharing your opinion. Stay safe Lin, keep being a part of all of this please and thank you 😊
Another great video Benny, personally I've always been rather partial to the 490/498 set.
I have always loved those pickups because I just love my supremes! Thanks for watching, my friend. Happy holidays 🙌🎸🔥
@@TheNeuroticGuitarist and the same to you, your fiancé and your dog Benny and yes they are a well rounded pickup, you can get em to snarl if you want to and they'll handle the cleaner end of things with aplomb also.
Mate you are really working hard pumping out content, awesome!
Great episode, really appreciate your knowledge and hearing the comparisons. Favor, I was watching an episode of Norms rare guitars '1956 Gibson Les Paul Custom | Guitar of the Day - Norman's Birthday!!!' and was blown away by the guitar. It had pickups a pickup in the neck that Id never heard of 'a Staple pickup', that combined with the P90 was magic. Would the Seymour Duncans version give me a similar sound in my 78 Ibanez? 🤔
What do you know mate? Help us out Benny!
Cheers!
Chris, there are ton of factors, so I can't possibly tell ya how it'll sound. I'd say that you should see if you can hear what the pickup sounds like on a similar guitar. I personally love p90s but there's also a bunch of different types at this point. If you like the p90 sound I'd go for it. The stapleback pickuos are supposed to be kinda a hot rod p90, extended highs and lows. I have a pair in my 55 les paul prototype but they were rewired by les. Theyre super cool pickups, you dont see those staplebacks often. And thanks for noticing Chris, I'm literally working full time to pump this out at the highest quality. I'm gonna be moving to a new house and have to take apart my studio so I may have to calm down for a month or two unfortunately but I'm gonna do my best. Please subscribe and join the madness if you haven't already!
@@TheNeuroticGuitarist Hey Benny. I really appreciate you taking the time to reply, thanks. All the best with the move, always 'fun'! I listen to all your stuff mate! Cheers.
Nice showdown Benny. I'm an old dude with old Les Pauls (early 80's , don't get too excited) so I was surprised to like the Burstbuvker Pros the most. The 57s were close but I dug the richness of the Burstbucker. Would like to see you bring the early 80's Tim Shaw T-Tops into a comparison. ROCK ON DUDE!!!
I have a 74 custom with t tops so that's definitely on the list. I love the BB pro and the 57s more than the 490/498 which was surprising but now before I move on I want to put 3 les Paul's w the SAME pickups against one another and see how consistent they are or if I like the pickups in one over the other.
490=A2 498=A5 and way hotter Liked em better after I swapped the magnets 490A5 498A2
That will be a cool test - look forward to it@@TheNeuroticGuitarist
@markstiffler6898 already editing next week's video. The work never stops!
57 Classics all the way ❤
They're 100% the most consistent and they will totally cut through the mix most if you have a bunch of stuff going on.
Im really into the bright tone of the burst buckers they really do it for me
Rock on!!! I am a big fan of the BB pros. Thanks for watching dude and happy holidays. Please subscribe and join the madness if you haven't already 🙏
I love the burst buckers. Sounds complete to me.
They really do shine in this video. Thanks for sharing and happy holidays. Please subscribe and join the madness 🙌
Overall fav between those three...BB for sure...would love to hear all played through a vintage Fender Twin or Super Reverb (blackface)...ool comparison!!
Thanks so much for watching! I love those burstbucker pros. I have a fender blackface dual showman! It's a 66! Please subscribe and join the madness 🙌
I always liked burst bucker pros for heavy tones and 57s for cleaner tones.
They all sound great though
I couldn't agree more. The 57 is def the most consistent and would probably be the best in a mix. Thanks for watching, as always brother. Happy holidays
That autumn burst is my favorite out of all of those 3 , however like yourself I am an avid guitarist and collector and all 3 would be the best way to go , 😊
Only all 3, how about just AS MANY AS I WE CAN GET OUR HANDS ON!!! thanks for watching Joseph and happy holidays, my friends. Please subscribe and join the madness. And question, is the autumn burst your favorite for sound or just esthetically? Are you putting your vote in for the 490/498?
Considering that the PAFs were designed more or less for Jazz (there was hardly any Hard Rock or Metal around in 1955) they do a pretty good job in the Overdrive/Distortion department! 57 for me please!
On another note: humbucker pickups actually date back farther than you'd think; Electro-Voice made the earliest humbuckers in 1934. Electro-Voice designed the pickups for other audio equipment though, not guitars. Eventually, this idea would inspire Ray Butts of Gretsch and Seth Lover of Gibson to create their own humbuckers.
Well then! I appreciate the info. They call it cunninhams law...if you post misinformation it's the #1 way to get the proper answer and here we are. Thanks for sharing and for watching. Happy holidays and please subscribe and join the madness 🙌
@@TheNeuroticGuitarist Done! 🙂
I am slightly leaning towards the 57s, but I wouldn't be upset having any of these tones. They all sound great in different ways! I'm a big fan of Gibson pickups, despite also really loving some Seymour Duncan models. I haven't had an opportunity to play the 57, and it sounds like I need to change that.
They're def the most consistent of the bunch. I think I may do a video of 3 guitars with 57s against one another and see how consistent they are from guitar to guitar
@@TheNeuroticGuitarist that sounds like an awesome idea.
Is that an Andy Bourdain (RIP) shirt. Either way love it.
You better believe it bro!!! Cheers to the heavens to Mr Bourdain! He was the best. Thanks for watching and please subscribe and join the madness 🙌
The BB pros had good note articulations on the cleans, but seemed muffled on the high gain. At least that is how it sounded on my computer speakers.
Because they have more bass they didn't cut the same as the 57s. If I were using them for a recording I'd most likely Notch that out with eq but I love it for the cleans. The 57s are probably the most usable as far as its kinda that one sound. I'm interested to see how consistent the 57s sound across multiple guitars because I have about 10 guitars with 57s and I wonder how close they actually sound alike
57 classic for me 👌🏼💯
Definitely the most consistent of the bunch! Thanks for watching and happy holidays todd! Please subscribe and join the madness 🙌
I've been subscribed for awhile now 👌🏼
@toddflowers8052 thanks so much Todd. If I ask u 10x more don't hate me! You rock, happy holidays my dude
I’d just put PRS 57/08’s or Suhr Thornbuckers in it. Love Gibson but these two sets are killer.
I love the 57/08s but I wouldn't take them over stock gibson pickups (maybe over the 490/498 but the BB and the 57s are better sounding to my ears). Love the thornbuckers! I bet those would sound rad. Thanks for watching and happy holidays, please subscribe and join the madness 🙌
BB pro good sounding.
Very versatile in that HP.
You can have coil split or tap and a treble bleed circuit depending on dip switch settings.
Although I'm guessing you would probably just pick up a different guitar rather than mess with settings.
You got it right, I know what it can do but thats way too much. I don't need to change the features, it does a crazy amount without changing stuff up. I agree with the BBs. Thanks for watching, please subscribe and join the madness 🙌
@@TheNeuroticGuitarist Subscribed. The HP'S are great guitars. The Gibson haters and traditionalists did the rest of us a favour by constantly bleating about them and lowering the prices. Not so sure about the dementia scrawl and hologram on the 2015 though.
You're a crazy dude but in a good way.
Guess you've channeled all that energy and craziness into music and guitars.
Do you get nerdy about keyboards too?
@georgeoh-well8116 I'm not as nerdy about them as I am with guitars but I got about 10, so I guess nerdy enough???
Cant wait for the bit where he tries firebird pickups....
I don't have a les paul traditional, I imagine that's the closest thing on a paul? I'm not a fan of firebird pickups. I had a bird but I dumped it a year ago, it was too neck heavy for me. I do have an es325 with the firebird pickups but it doesn't wow me.
I really like the 57 classics.
They are 100% the most consistent. Thanks for watching Edward and happy holidays. Please subscribe and join the madness 🙌
The differences are far more pronounced when using a clean amp. Once the gain goes up they start sounding more similar. Burstbuckers for high gain stuff. 57s for clean stuff. 490R/498T for whatever else. The 490R/490T set which you didn't cover is excellent for blues.
Interesting. I have always loved the 490/498 but they are by far the weakest in this test. The testing isn't over. The new Murphy lab 58 I just got has custombuckers in it. Unpotted w alnico 3 magnets. Everything else is alnico 2 or 5. Don't know what difference that makes but I'm taking notes. Did you like your cameo as triumph?
@@TheNeuroticGuitarist For me to poop on.
498 sounded killer on metal test
I'm with ya, that's definitely the "modern" thing they were saying. They shine much more with the distortion. 🤘
The 498t has an Alnico 5 magnet (the 490r has an Alnico 2) :)
Did I reverse them?
You said the 498t and 490r have Alnico 2. But only the 490r has Alnico 2 with the 498t having Alnico 5.
The 57 Classics have Alnico 2. I don’t think you said what magnets they have in the video.
You correctly said the BB Pros have Alnico 5.
Sound is, of course, what matters, but as someone who is also a bit neurotic, I had to point it out 😂
It’s possible you may have seen specs for the 490t, which is also paired with a 490r and has an Alnico 2 magnet, and conflated it with the 498t.
@derrinruschell8538 I did mention that about the 57, I have the whole gibson chart right in front of my face. Just got a Murphy lab yesterday that has custombuckers which are alnico 3 magnets
I liked the 57’s the most. Most punch and most articulation but, the Burstbuckers sounds really nice on the clean examples. Burstbuckers might be the recording guitar and the 57’s are the live performance guitar pickup. The 490 and 498 had this weird scooped thing going on. Not bad on the clean setting but, seemed to have this fizzy sound when you added gain. They’re like a PRS pickup. 🤣🤣🤣
I agree with one of the other viewers that it would be cool to show some Tim Shaws but, Tim Shaw didn’t make the T-Tops. T-Tops and Tarbacks were poopoo pickups and that’s why Gibson hired Tim Shaw to try to recreate the PAF sound. This is why Dimarzio Super distortions got so popular. Tarbacks and T-Tops sucked.
In a nutshell….. all hail the 57 Classics!!
I have t tops in my 74 custom. I have Tim Shaws in a few guitars but not any les Paul's. I think I may have to put three guitars with the same pickups in them against one another to see how consistent the pickup is across the guitar before I even move on!
Man that f hole les paul😮
When i was young i used to think that lps were hollow😂😂
Haha, what about heavy ass les Paul's made you think they were hollow? 😜
@@TheNeuroticGuitaristwhen i picked up my first les paul was when I realised 😅😂
57 57+💥
Those were both 57s but I'm pretty sure I have to do a video of the 57s against the 57+. Thanks for taking the time and happy holidays. Please subscribe and join the madness 🙌
@@TheNeuroticGuitarist Hey thanks, happy holidays and a productive year 24 to you as well. This 57+ has a slightly hotter output and the Lead sounds much richer... 4Me….Thanks for the answer!
@elquintoviernesazul I know! In fact, I have guitars with 57s, 57+ and today I found out two have SUPER 57s. So I'll have to do a review of all three against one another. The florentine only has 57s, not a + in the lead. Rock on dude! 🤘
@@TheNeuroticGuitarist I have no doubt that you have all the possible combinations in the Gibson world, these guitars, in Europe we can only admire them via the internet hehe but thanks for your effort and we can at least see the channel and have some audio recording🤙🏻💥🍀 and yes great idea for 57 war !🤣✊🏻
@@elquintoviernesazul rock on bro, I do it for all of us!!! Cheers from Boston
Don't know hw to play, but tos beauties looks smoking hot 🔥 out of context Ben' nt so good news, careful, tey are expecting 300k migrants tis festive season tru' te wonderful open borders ' don't know wat types people may come in...Be safe n keep rocking 🤘💯
Happy holidays angelina!!! Be safe 🙏 ❤️
Get a custom loaded with Dirty Fingers.
I have dirty fingers in a paul. Love the ceramic magnets! Thanks for watching and happy holidays. Please subscribe and join the madness 🙌
I have 3 LP copies, one with BB2/BB3, one with 57Classic/Classic+ and one with 490R/$98T's. Overall I prefer the 57 classics but the BB2/3's come second
Do you know what the 61s are considered? I read they're burstbuckers but are they 1 2s or3s??? Those 57s are classics for a reason
@@TheNeuroticGuitarist What I read was the 61s have more winds on the screw bobbin, the BB Pro's have more on the slug coil. Prehaps thats just how they made the 60's originals. What difference it makes I don't know. I find the 490/498 combo a bit overpowering - almost DiMarzio Superdistortion like (used to have one of those in an Adrian Smith Jackson). I should have gone for the BB1/2 combo over 2/3, but the set that came up were gold plated and the guitar they have gone in is a LP Custom copy that is black with all gold hardware. As you said though the 57's are a good allround pair
draw between burst bucker and 57
I'm with ya! Thanks for watching and happy holidays. Please subscribe and join the madness