Perfectly said, a £500 car & a £50,000 car will both take you to the same destination. The same as a £10 watch & a £10,000 watch will both tell the same time.
Exactly right! Scrapping perfectly good cars with years left in them and building new ones in the name of being green is ridiculous, as is people lumbering themselves with unnecessary monthly lease payments . My 23 year old Saab and 15 year old Jaguar are cheaper to keep on the road and far greener and more interesting than some modern, battery box.
Your Saab more than likely a British Leyland and your Jaguar a Ford. My Volvo V50 TD is a Ford but my 1966 Mg is a Mg . You can't tell what you're driving today but In my opinion the new MGs are a insult to the badge.
Let alone the emissions it uses to make the evs too plus the how to dispose off the lithium batteries and if and when they catch on fire huge impact on the environment
@@steveliversidge7357 The new MGs just scream cheap chinese junk, look like they're made for rental car companies and fleet buyers rather than your average joe.
I know, and to be honest, it's when I buy the 'less special' cars like this poverty spec 2.5 non turbo that it all makes more sense than ever. My 850 TDI is great but i've spent a fortune on it and I continue to do so, because it does 50mpg. I should have just stuck with a petrol, they never seem to need anything.
@@RichieRouge206 Yep, you low miler you! We bought our 1994 850 back in 1998 when it had 62k. Now has over 300k, just qualifying for the Volvo high mileage club. It does get used less now but it does everything asked for competently, even if unspectacularly. It's one of the family and will remain with us as long as possible.
Volvo's are great cars I had one for 8 years very reliable, but unfortunately it developed a problem with the injectors and it would have cost me quite a lot , but I was down sizing anyway so I sold it cheap to give me something towards my next car , I think the older Volvos where better , some Volvo's when they put D P Fs on them could give you problems if you didn't do a lot of Motorway runs , Good Luck stick with it .
I bought a 2004 Volvo S60 in 2012 for £1,700, normal things replaced and it is an excellent car. We are conned into buying electric cars just like we were conned into buying diesel cars so many years ago. I fully agree with your argument that we should use what we have until it falls apart, that was the attitude I was taught by my parents, "make do and mend" was the mantra. All the best. Peter Norcliffe, Huddersfield.
I totally agree, I have a 1996 Mondeo wagon as a hack, has 360,000kms on it and it still runs perfect, there is no sense in pushing people out of good older cars and into new..
I'll be sticking with my 20 year old MG ZT and 19 year old TF for as long as I can - I don't do many miles these days so I'll probably be using a lot less resources than an electric replacement would ever be likely to save.
I’m keeping my old Rover 75’s going. I have recycled a multitude of parts off scrap 75’s & the odd ZT to keep mine going. Many have been given to me for free whilst others have been purchased at low cost. Okay the cars are somewhat thirsty V6’s but they are high mileage & still running saving on manufacture of new parts & cars. I’m also preserving a small piece of British motoring heritage for the summer car shows. The Tourer is also earning its keep as a useful ‘lifestyle’ estate lugging loads to the tip, charity shops & hauling the dogs around. I enjoy driving them, they keep me out of the GP’s office asking for anti depressants because they play such a big role in my social life. I could go out & buy a 1ltr eco boast economy car but why should I? I rarely holiday abroad & when I do it’s usually by Eurostar or ferry yet most middle class people who can afford electric cars jet set for their holidays…whose carbon footprint is higher?
I’m with you Geoff, I’ve got a 2004 £500 V70 D5 which I run in the Winter and a 2001 Subaru Impreza WRX for Summer. What we need to do next is stop the Councils spreading excessive amounts of the pink stuff on our roads November to April!
It‘s unfortunately completely baloney, his old clunker has already polluted the earth enough, by keeping it on the road you are only making it worse. On the other hand the BEV gets better with every mile driven, with the energy needed to drill, pump, refine, transport and distribute 6 litres of diesel fuel, 42 kWH according to an oil company, to your car a BEV can drive 200 km - and the 6 litres of diesel haven‘t even been burned yet, that adds another 300km if you were to caclulate the energy contained. So where your car struggles to do 100km with the BEV can do in excess of 5 times the distance! The used figures for how much such a car needs to be driven to compensate for the production are outdated, current figures are ranging from below 10000 miles to roughly 20000 miles.
I've owned my 2002 V70 2.4SE for 14 years, bought it off a chap who paid £9'400 for it second hand, he was selling it when he got a company car, I paid £2200 for it was showing 72'000 miles, This year it is showing 112'000 miles, and it's bullet proof, serviced and maintained regardless of cost by myself, I also run a Transit connect T230, and side by side when it's put on the gas analyser at the MOT station, the V70 is much lower, barely registering 0% co2 at idle and 0.04% at 3000rpm....The Transit is 0.45% at idle, and 1.6% at 3000rpm....but the V70 is more expensive for road tax. It's a total con and we are being fleeced. Climate changes, and there is next to nothing we can do about it, If people think paying governments and councils money will fix the climate, then they are either stupid or dangerously stupid.
I had a 2.5 V70 with about 240k on it a few years ago. Ran it for 18 months with virtually no issues and genuinely loved it - wet dogs, muddy kids, three dumpy bags of garden waste etc etc. And they still ‘look good’ in virtually any setting. £300 a month for a Polestar you say…and the rest! Personally, I’d get a decent tax offset if I leased an EV, but no thanks. Currently have an E350 CDI coupe with 140k on it. Fast, comfy (2 hours to work), 50+ mpg and it cost me less than £6k 18 months ago. Even if it costs me £1500 a year - and it hasn’t…yet 🤞- to keep it on the road, that’s still cheap motoring. Keep banging the drum 👍
Thanks for the input Rhys, those E350 CDIs are great engines but I struggle to get my head around the angular looks of the modern Mercs... however the older shape 320CDIs can't compete on running costs. Thing is, if you keep servicing that E350CDI, it'll be interesting to see how long it lasts before the electrical gremlins start appearing, but it'll be like i've always said with the old S Classes... it'll probably be stuff that's broken that you can totally live with!
This is why I like Volvos, because it's apparent they were designed to be on the road for a VERY long time. Honda and Toyotas also, but they rust in ways that Volvos simply dont. Therefore Volvo is THE no.1 vehicle to own for sheer longevity. FCP euro recently did a teardown of a 300,000 n/a 5 cylinder volvo engine to see what condition it was in, and they said it was in fantastic shape top to bottom and easily do another 100,000+ miles. But maintstream people ignore these cars, even though they literally tick every box for everything you could ever need in terms of transportation. Why? Because they want blinged up "status" vehicles like a brand new BMW or Audi. It's madness.
I agree, i have many volvos in my garage, and my favorite one is volvo 850 wagon 1996 2.4 10 valve with lpg. This volvo has done more than 560 000 kms and still going, yes it took some maintenance to get it to those kms, but it still moves, it has leather interior, premium sound system, air condition works, cruise control works. Lately it starts to feel old, and looks very rough with peeling paint and rust spots and scratched paint all over it, but i think i am gonna drive it for a long time, i bought it for 500 Euros and i have a garage with all the necessary tools to keep it running, i bought spare engine in a junkyard for 60 euros, spare gearbox for 50 euros, i got so many spare parts for this 850 volvo.....that it would be a madness to throw it out. Ahh, but Abs light is on....need to figure that one out.
Great video, I agree. I said it years ago, stop all new car production and instead manufacture new replacement parts to keep existing vehicles going for as long as possible. We have the ability to produce new castings for old engines, hard to find parts that are very model specific; all parts have numbers and patents, how nice would it be for classic car owners to get the parts they need to keep these cars going.
Yes New E v's do use bit more C02 And resources to build them a I.c.e car. But people always seem to forget about the masses amount Of mining resources energy Pollution and the masses amount off C02 procedure by Big oil Companies use to get the petrol to the pump.
Volvo v70 2.4 td auto 2005, getting around 47mpg combined and its s pure tank. Not without issues but simple maintenance and care...great car with 242,000 miles. Just done a deep clean on EGR and housing, boosts really well.
I think you have got it completely right, am 78 and never owned a new car I don’t want the worry about somebody scratching or stealing it old cars are almost invisible to thieves.
40 Years driving and only ever had one new car MG ZR kept for 10 months got rid and have kept buying older cars ever since currently 2005 2.4 na v70 can see this being another long termer love it . So right about the building new cars stop that and you will save more than bullying people into electric cars, told the wife i will get a tesla in about 10 years and slap a v6 in it long live petrol.
Totally agree, my work car is a 2005 Skoda Fabia VRS 197,000 young, still returning between 46 and 52 mpg on my 400mile a week commute. Purchased for £900 2 years ago on 155,000 miles. It’s just had 4 tyres before Xmas, a brake line for its first ever mot failure, and a thermostat….. I replace the oil 3 times a year and she purrs like a kitten. Unfortunately the dreaded tin worm is striking hard, but I will be looking for another old mileage muncher to replace it. Keep these old car videos coming. 👌👍🏼👍🏼
my dad is 96 and just give up driving is 1998 civic he got from new .serviced it only .It has just passed it mot and ready too go again for the new owner .What a car it has been no trouble at all
I've had a £550 Wreg v 70 for 4years. The 5 cylinder 2.5 petrol engine sounds incredible, its comfortable,practical and has been very reliable. I will keep it until such time as it becomes knackered beyond repair! I only drive it about 2000miles per year so the environmental impact of me buying a new ev would basically never be offset! Good luck with your 35mpg though(unless you don't do any short or around town trips and drive like a nun) I average about 25 mpg 👍
The idea that EVs break even on CO2 after 50k miles ignores the fact that the energy to charge them creates CO2 emissions. The EV agenda is darker that you think.
Volvo did a study. C60 vs c60 recharge. 2 cars built in the same factory on the same production line except 1 becomes an EV the other gets an engine. Volvo stated that it will take the EV 70,000 miles to pay back the manufacturing pollution over the diesel c60. They also added that after 70,000 miles you may be considering replacing the battery.
Great video. I bought an XC90 2.4 D5 in 2014 on a 61 plate with 80k miles (1 owner) - it cost me £17k. I still have the car 9 years later. It now has 190k miles on it and goes as well as the day I bought it. It is the best car I have ever had. I will never buy an EV car but will run this beauty into the ground. 😄
Ignore money as that's irrelevant to the environment, but the very existence of your 25 year old car evidences that newer cars trickle down through the used trade. The majority of electricity does not come from coal and oil. You have a point in part, but the amount of electricity energy from fossil fuel has been reducing, and the gas power stations are much cleaner than car exhausts. In making a direct comparison between co2 outputs we also need to consider the refining of oil into petrol and diesel. But is it better to build a new gas guzzler for someone doing 20 or 30k a year in their company car? I think you'll agree that electricity is the way forwards!
I've just got shut of my Volvo estate had it for 8 years was a great car done 155,000 miles been serviced every year , 2010 plate , but developed a fault on the injectors which cost quite a lot , so I sold it ,down sized , but it was an eco diesel engine 1.6, £20 a year rd tax , I now have a vauxhall agila very economic and cheap to run . Great video. 👍
I have an 03 MR2 mk3, a 96 MR2 mk2 turbo import. Quite happy to own them for the rest of my life, I love them like you love your Volvos. I do also lease a 2018 CX5 as a family car which I've had from new and just extended the lease on it because I like it so much and I don't see anything on the market worth replacing it with at the moment. So I absolutely agree with your opinion. We really don't need new cars every 3 years. It's just vanity and profiteering by manufacturers. However.... There's no way that Polestar cost 300 quid a month even on lease 😉😂
Thank you - agree with everything you say. I also share your car buying philosophy, and have done for over 20 years. My last car (Volvo V90 (960)) only had to go after my wife crashed it.
I'm driving '09 Civic Mk8 1.8 and not planning to change it in near future. Simple as 90's vehicle, no stupid sensors, no plastics bs on crucial parts, easy to work on. Lifetime timing chain unless you stop changing oil every 5-6k miles. A lot space inside and big boot regarding to outside measurements. The only thing I can complain about is fuel consumption which is about 30 MPG around London
You do talk sense,unlike the greens! Like the hat less look,much better, be out and proud grass doesn’t grow on a busy street.Mine stared to recede when I was 21, but I didntage until my late 50’s my mates allwenrgrey😄
Hi Geoff. I agree with a your underlying principle but two main issues for me. 1 uk Grid delivers about 59% zero carbon energy these days. Virtually all coal stations now closed and gas ones joining them soon!! 2. Everyone always dismisses the carbon monoxide produced in oil extraction transport and refining when presenting these arguments. Even if we all drive oldbb can petrol cars the oil industry will still be producing huge quantities of CO and destroying the environment in pursuit of petrol production.
Im sticking with my 21 year old Hyundai Santa Fe. Runs great Hopefully should run for another 20 years. Whats environmentally friendly about scrapping something that is perfectly fine
Keep her going , Geoff. Looks smart body wise . Got a now 24 year old 1999 Saab 93 LPT turbo convertible, had it since 2018 , spent money on her each year to keep her going , still looks very presentable, I tend to use her for high days and holidays etc , as I have a company car, but if I replaced it would be a second hand - classic car etc. Literally can’t see the point in buying brand new for private usage , huge depreciation etc plus if the truth be known they look bloody awful, if fact down right ugly in many cases.
Have owned a 1999 V70 2.5ltr 5-speed manual since 2007. Currently has 169K on the clock and passes its MOT with only a couple of small advisories each year. Just replaced the front struts and springs as the originals were showing their age. I wonder if any new Ford focus's or Vauxhall Vectra's will still be running on their original struts in 23 years time !
You are totally right. I have only owned 3 cars in the passed 25 years, all of them diesels. My current car is a non LEZ compliant 14 year old Toyota RAV4, with only 80,000 miles on the clock and after sailing through the last two MOTs, I reckon this car will do 300k miles easy. Why should I be fined, when I am doing more for the environment that any electric car owner by driving and maintaining an old car instead of buying new ones every 3 years!?
Ron Champion's Locost recognised these principals - oftentimes the powertrain of cars outlasted the frame. So Ron devised an open source generic frame based on the Lotus Seven into which the powertrain of existing cars can be transplanted for a second life - much like organ donation!
I still think that the government should trail a electric conversion scheme for older cars! I don’t like the look of most new cars and would love a older car that is an EV! (If I have to eventually have a EV)
I must admit, I feel a sort of inverted snobbery when I find myself in the oldest car in the car park or even the oldest car I see on my entire commute (from Worcestershire to Bristol). Even more so in terms of owning the car for so long. I don’t think even Robert DIY (www.youtube.com/@RobertDIY) has owned the same Volvo 850 for more than 30 years (incidentally, not sure why he never seems to appear on the Volvo Owners Club forum). I have owned the same Volvo 244 for 26 years, V70 for 21 years and 850 getting on for 30 years.
There's one car that is even more environmentally friendly still. It has a little 600cc two cylinder engine, built to a simple straight forward design with very little to break on it. It also has body panels made from a type of plastic created using recycled cotton. Built to an original design with very little change over the years meaning spare parts will fit any car. Made in Germany so probably good build quality. The Trabant 601.
if fuel goes up to £4 a litre Ill make my own at home, there is a point where it becomes viable to do so, I ran two citroen xantias 1.9TD SX estate models for 7 years making my own fuel and although I had complaints from the neighbours about running a generator ,the fire inspectors and council visited one day with the police they were all more interested in the process with lots of questions than they were in the complaint and they all left very happy with their new knowledge virtually indorsing everything I was doing. you can run biodiesel 2495 litres a year and pay no tax on it but you must keep records of how much you put in your vechicle, just in case. out of the two Xantias one did 130k and the other did 125k one was 22 years old and the other 18 years old.
Like the carpeting, funky👍 Not so sure about the urban DPM seat covers though 🤔 You're correct about keeping older cars on the road, I'll be using my 7yr old 15 plate 2.2tdi antara on the road as long as possible 😊
The greatest "Cleans everything brilliantly" Spray is Dettol multi-surface cleaner. I have no idea what they put in it - possibly plutonium - but it beats every other cleaner ever invented for cleaning everything. That & I agree with everything you are saying. My car was €400 3 years ago - it's a turbodiesel & it gets 60mpg easily. It's also 18 years old - runs like a top. I pay it no heed & seldom lay a spanner on it. My Missus drives a more expensive car - hers was €450 - but that was 6 years ago so maybe they are of similar value.. When either break - which isn't often - I (shocker) fix them. What do I do for a living? I fix cars - usually other peoples Posh modern cars. I have zero clue how they afford the repairs - I've fitted indicator lights that cost more than any car I'd own by choice these days - but hey-ho. Each to their own, I guess. I used think what you drove mattered - years ago - I had almost every "Dream car" going at one stage or another - V12 Mercs, Skylines, Rocketship Mitsubishi's, every fast Toyota, Bullet Volvos - all the "Top Trumps" of cars - then I got a bit of sense & dropped out of the race, Now I only care that it starts & leaves my wallet intact. Someone else can do the cutting edge. I'll fix it for them when it breaks - but it's gonna be spendy. as the new stuff is rubbish. If we really cared about being "Green" - we'd keep all the cars that are already built going - and build no more - it would kill the car industry barring parts manufacturers, but maybe that wouldn't be such a bad thing considering what way they have gone the last few years.
Look at Cuba, for whatever reason they basically became a closed market with no new cars. Now the most fantastic old cars in the world are there and they have the skills to keep them going.
I have 2 same colours,one with 2.5 atmosphere engine and one is turbo,awesome car . Now im in project of interrior,table,all sides going in natural leather,seats,roof,all. Cuz im leather handcrafter and wanna make unique v70. Nice video
I agree with everything you say about keeping existing cars going making much more sense than pouring more and more rare resources into new "motors". You are wrong about where most of our electrickery comes from though. Just looking at the stats for this very minute- It's a pretty calm day and the light is going, at the moment- 19.2% from wind, 12.68% from nuclear and 39.86% from CCGT (Cold condensing gas turbines). Also dribs and drabs from pumped flow, a bit from hydro, solar has gone now, biomasis nearly 5%, nothing from coal or other gas and if I am reading the screen right, approx. 15% from other countries grids. At peak times they sometimes burn a bit of coal but mostly they just wind up the gas powered stations. It is not possible to wind nuclear up and down on demand, so nuclear power operates at a set level and all the other sources handle the peaks and troughs of demand. When there is a lot of wind they can back off the amount of gas they use and I often see electricity being exported to other countries. Sorry, got a bit carried away there! Yes, your Volvo is a great idea! Like your videos, keep 'em coming!
A very well argued set of reasons why electric simply cars don't work. The environmental damage from extracting lithium is just one point. In Chile, lithium mining is damaging the air and the soil - and contaminating water that people and wildlife depend on. Everything else is covered extremely well in this video. I'll stay with my lovely Volvo V40; 114,000 miles from new and still purring along, no issues, apart from the one you had Geoff, i.e. the engine under-shield parting company with the car. If you haven't refitted it yet, don't bother. It doesn't do much anyway!
i know im late to the party here...but i have 2013 merc c250 and dont plan on ever replacing it unless i can get a pick up (far more practical for transporting drums and kayaks) . i live in a flat and parking is hotly contested so there will never be any guarantee i could park outside to charge an electric car .
I've got a 2007 V70 d5 185bhp. It's tuned but won't bore you with listing the bits. 16 year old car with 253k and many many more miles left. I'll never buy a new car. To many people must have the latest everything.
Bang on about scrapping cars! My friend in outer London has a 20 year old car. For the mileage they do he'd gladly keep it longer. But because it's worthless I fear if he got a new one to avoid ULEZ the old one would end up scrapped, not good for the planet at all.
I had similar 1997 model with a turbo (160,873 miles driven) until the weekend before Christmas 2022. Even the coloring was same... inside & outside. It was very nice car but due to bad weather I crashed it. :(
I've had my 2003 Rover 75 Tourer diesel Auto for 15 years. Now on 210k miles and still feels tight to drive. It has the BMW M47 (chain driven no cam belts). These engines are capable of at least half million miles. I know 2 which have done over 700k. This will see me out. Heartedly agree with your argument about the carbon footprint, and yes reduce the amount of new cars made. Ridiculous habit buying a new car every 3 years. 🤬🤬👌
I got a V70 -04 170hp. Never gonna by a car made later than that. I got a VW Vento from 1996 a realy reliable car and cheap to maintain. I got a VW from 1994 Are made to last. Modern cars are made to break.
The manufacturers seem to be selling electric cars to go on a lease with the intention of looking after it for 3 years. As you say with no consideration for what we already have. Look at Cuba, no new cars after the 1950's? and most of those cars are still on the road with a make do and mend industry who know everything about how to keep these old cars running. Surely, recycling is the future. Keeping your car for 10 years, or 20 years if you have a Volvo, makes much more sense than buying a new one and scrapping it after 3-5 years as the manufacturers and most governments would like.
I totally get the sentiment, but if new cars are built, then they better be EVs. Im all for keeping old cars running. My 2008 V70 has 418 000 km on it and still drives nice. I will try to keep it running as long as i can
I live the urban cam deck chair stripped beast. You are correct the electric green cars are essentially powered by fossil fuels. Regarding charging elec cars we (UK) don't have the infrastructure in place or the power producing means of providing the power, the power network is 'run' by a UK firm but a lot of our power is supplied by the French(EDF).
No they aren't and the grid is getting cleaner. Please look at gridwatch to see the current makeup. UK grid is often about 50% renewables, less than 1% coal. As I write this, gas is 38%, coal 3% nuclear 5% but please see for yourself on different days.
It’s a personal choice for me i really don’t want a brick on wheels with brown interior that’s my own view but Geoff keeps going on and on and on about it
Talked to a driver the other day who was going to be part of a team pouring fivehundredand twenty cubic metres of concrete for a wind farm. Green energy, my arse!
I come from a family where we drove cars until the wheels fell off and then we put the wheels back on and drove it some more. When you look at the overall thermal efficiency of an EV versus a petrol car, the EV is only about 10 to 20% thermally more efficient than a petrol car when the electricity comes from fossil fuels. This is due to the inherent losses when burning fossil fuels at a central power plant to produce electricity then transporting it to the charging station in order to charge the EV.
I’ve literally been saying this for years now! I always my old land rover ninety that’s still going from 1984(?) is actually pretty Green I. The grand scheme of things.
No contest. You've heard the expression: "Needs must when the Devil drives!" I think that's probably going to be the case in the future. Internal combustion will win through purely because it'll be 30 years before the UK gets anywhere near building the infrastructure to support EVs. Your way is similar to mine; I own a 2006 Lexus GS300 SE-L. Very rapid, very reliable, surprisingly economical, (40mpg at 70mph on a motorway and avg 24mpg round town!), and superbly comfortable and silent. (I'm old so love peace and comfort). I love my car and see no point in changing it. I have to disagree with your £4:00p a litre estimate. I think (hope) that we will see massive change in not only government, but the way we're represented long before that sort of price for petrol/diesel can be reached. Currently, I'm planning to convert to LPG fairly soon. It's half the cost of petrol, is a lot more efficient and burns very clean. We shall have to see what happens - perhaps make things happen ourselves. In reality, We The People are a lot stronger than those we elect to serve us. Keep'em coming Geoff
in November i bought a 27 year old merc 250 diesel with no mot non runner for £350 the only thing i spent money on is a pair of batteries for key fob front springs and a service all done buy myself i put it in for mot and it past with no advisories
I'll be driving my 180k mile 2.2 Petrol Vauxhall Vectra Estate until the wheels fall off. Its cost £2500 over the course of 4 Years ownership, and that include tyres.
Perfectly said, a £500 car & a £50,000 car will both take you to the same destination. The same as a £10 watch & a £10,000 watch will both tell the same time.
And a cheap broken watch, tells the time even 2 times a day very accurately 😂.
Exactly right! Scrapping perfectly good cars with years left in them and building new ones in the name of being green is ridiculous, as is people lumbering themselves with unnecessary monthly lease payments .
My 23 year old Saab and 15 year old Jaguar are cheaper to keep on the road and far greener and more interesting than some modern, battery box.
At 189,000 miles a EV would be on its 3rd set of batteries , probably at
£25 k per set
Your Saab more than likely a British Leyland and your Jaguar a Ford.
My Volvo V50 TD is a Ford but my 1966 Mg is a Mg . You can't tell what you're driving today but In my opinion the new MGs are a insult to the badge.
Let alone the emissions it uses to make the evs too plus the how to dispose off the lithium batteries and if and when they catch on fire huge impact on the environment
@@budbud2509 😮
@@steveliversidge7357 The new MGs just scream cheap chinese junk, look like they're made for rental car companies and fleet buyers rather than your average joe.
You speak the truth!! I say this to so many and they think I'm stupid for driving an 18yo Volvo.
I know, and to be honest, it's when I buy the 'less special' cars like this poverty spec 2.5 non turbo that it all makes more sense than ever. My 850 TDI is great but i've spent a fortune on it and I continue to do so, because it does 50mpg. I should have just stuck with a petrol, they never seem to need anything.
@@GeoffBuysCars I've got the NA 2.4 I my V70. At 164k it's barely run in
@@RichieRouge206 Yep, you low miler you!
We bought our 1994 850 back in 1998 when it had 62k. Now has over 300k, just qualifying for the Volvo high mileage club.
It does get used less now but it does everything asked for competently, even if unspectacularly. It's one of the family and will remain with us as long as possible.
Volvo's are great cars I had one for 8 years very reliable, but unfortunately it developed a problem with the injectors and it would have cost me quite a lot , but I was down sizing anyway so I sold it cheap to give me something towards my next car , I think the older Volvos where better , some Volvo's when they put D P Fs on them could give you problems if you didn't do a lot of Motorway runs , Good Luck stick with it .
He.s right on the one hand but if you stop making cars altogether you have an awful lot of people out of work.
I bought a 2004 Volvo S60 in 2012 for £1,700, normal things replaced and it is an excellent car. We are conned into buying electric cars just like we were conned into buying diesel cars so many years ago. I fully agree with your argument that we should use what we have until it falls apart, that was the attitude I was taught by my parents, "make do and mend" was the mantra. All the best. Peter Norcliffe, Huddersfield.
I totally agree, I have a 1996 Mondeo wagon as a hack, has 360,000kms on it and it still runs perfect, there is no sense in pushing people out of good older cars and into new..
I'll be sticking with my 20 year old MG ZT and 19 year old TF for as long as I can - I don't do many miles these days so I'll probably be using a lot less resources than an electric replacement would ever be likely to save.
Exactly, and great cars both of those too. Which engine is the ZT? I didn't enjoy my frankenstein V6 ZTT!
@@GeoffBuysCars the ZT is the V6 160, still runs like new after 111,000 miles
@@darrenball4620 i had a ZT v6 190, surprised a few boy racers with that girl. loved it.
@@Supraboyes :) always a good feeling!
Wow your brave with an mgzt if its the v6 petrol I had a few and once they overheat they are nothing but trouble
I’m keeping my old Rover 75’s going. I have recycled a multitude of parts off scrap 75’s & the odd ZT to keep mine going. Many have been given to me for free whilst others have been purchased at low cost. Okay the cars are somewhat thirsty V6’s but they are high mileage & still running saving on manufacture of new parts & cars. I’m also preserving a small piece of British motoring heritage for the summer car shows. The Tourer is also earning its keep as a useful ‘lifestyle’ estate lugging loads to the tip, charity shops & hauling the dogs around. I enjoy driving them, they keep me out of the GP’s office asking for anti depressants because they play such a big role in my social life. I could go out & buy a 1ltr eco boast economy car but why should I? I rarely holiday abroad & when I do it’s usually by Eurostar or ferry yet most middle class people who can afford electric cars jet set for their holidays…whose carbon footprint is higher?
I’m with you Geoff, I’ve got a 2004 £500 V70 D5 which I run in the Winter and a 2001 Subaru Impreza WRX for Summer. What we need to do next is stop the Councils spreading excessive amounts of the pink stuff on our roads November to April!
my local authority doesn't spread much except shit in the form of council tax
Hey Geoff, ur economics of cars is spot on!😉
Thank you!
It‘s unfortunately completely baloney, his old clunker has already polluted the earth enough, by keeping it on the road you are only making it worse. On the other hand the BEV gets better with every mile driven, with the energy needed to drill, pump, refine, transport and distribute 6 litres of diesel fuel, 42 kWH according to an oil company, to your car a BEV can drive 200 km - and the 6 litres of diesel haven‘t even been burned yet, that adds another 300km if you were to caclulate the energy contained. So where your car struggles to do 100km with the BEV can do in excess of 5 times the distance! The used figures for how much such a car needs to be driven to compensate for the production are outdated, current figures are ranging from below 10000 miles to roughly 20000 miles.
I've owned my 2002 V70 2.4SE for 14 years, bought it off a chap who paid £9'400 for it second hand, he was selling it when he got a company car, I paid £2200 for it was showing 72'000 miles, This year it is showing 112'000 miles, and it's bullet proof, serviced and maintained regardless of cost by myself, I also run a Transit connect T230, and side by side when it's put on the gas analyser at the MOT station, the V70 is much lower, barely registering 0% co2 at idle and 0.04% at 3000rpm....The Transit is 0.45% at idle, and 1.6% at 3000rpm....but the V70 is more expensive for road tax. It's a total con and we are being fleeced. Climate changes, and there is next to nothing we can do about it, If people think paying governments and councils money will fix the climate, then they are either stupid or dangerously stupid.
I had a 2.5 V70 with about 240k on it a few years ago. Ran it for 18 months with virtually no issues and genuinely loved it - wet dogs, muddy kids, three dumpy bags of garden waste etc etc. And they still ‘look good’ in virtually any setting. £300 a month for a Polestar you say…and the rest! Personally, I’d get a decent tax offset if I leased an EV, but no thanks. Currently have an E350 CDI coupe with 140k on it. Fast, comfy (2 hours to work), 50+ mpg and it cost me less than £6k 18 months ago. Even if it costs me £1500 a year - and it hasn’t…yet 🤞- to keep it on the road, that’s still cheap motoring. Keep banging the drum 👍
Thanks for the input Rhys, those E350 CDIs are great engines but I struggle to get my head around the angular looks of the modern Mercs... however the older shape 320CDIs can't compete on running costs. Thing is, if you keep servicing that E350CDI, it'll be interesting to see how long it lasts before the electrical gremlins start appearing, but it'll be like i've always said with the old S Classes... it'll probably be stuff that's broken that you can totally live with!
This is why I like Volvos, because it's apparent they were designed to be on the road for a VERY long time. Honda and Toyotas also, but they rust in ways that Volvos simply dont. Therefore Volvo is THE no.1 vehicle to own for sheer longevity. FCP euro recently did a teardown of a 300,000 n/a 5 cylinder volvo engine to see what condition it was in, and they said it was in fantastic shape top to bottom and easily do another 100,000+ miles. But maintstream people ignore these cars, even though they literally tick every box for everything you could ever need in terms of transportation. Why? Because they want blinged up "status" vehicles like a brand new BMW or Audi. It's madness.
Now fast charge public charging costs more per mile than fossil fuel! Thanks Putin.....
I agree, i have many volvos in my garage, and my favorite one is volvo 850 wagon 1996 2.4 10 valve with lpg. This volvo has done more than 560 000 kms and still going, yes it took some maintenance to get it to those kms, but it still moves, it has leather interior, premium sound system, air condition works, cruise control works. Lately it starts to feel old, and looks very rough with peeling paint and rust spots and scratched paint all over it, but i think i am gonna drive it for a long time, i bought it for 500 Euros and i have a garage with all the necessary tools to keep it running, i bought spare engine in a junkyard for 60 euros, spare gearbox for 50 euros, i got so many spare parts for this 850 volvo.....that it would be a madness to throw it out. Ahh, but Abs light is on....need to figure that one out.
Great video, I agree. I said it years ago, stop all new car production and instead manufacture new replacement parts to keep existing vehicles going for as long as possible. We have the ability to produce new castings for old engines, hard to find parts that are very model specific; all parts have numbers and patents, how nice would it be for classic car owners to get the parts they need to keep these cars going.
Yes New E v's do use bit more C02 And resources to build them a I.c.e car. But people always seem to forget about the masses amount Of mining resources energy Pollution and the masses amount off C02 procedure by Big oil Companies use to get the petrol to the pump.
Volvo v70 2.4 td auto 2005, getting around 47mpg combined and its s pure tank. Not without issues but simple maintenance and care...great car with 242,000 miles. Just done a deep clean on EGR and housing, boosts really well.
I think you have got it completely right, am 78 and never owned a new car I don’t want the worry about somebody scratching or stealing it old cars are almost invisible to thieves.
40 Years driving and only ever had one new car MG ZR kept for 10 months got rid and have kept buying older cars ever since currently 2005 2.4 na v70 can see this being another long termer love it . So right about the building new cars stop that and you will save more than bullying people into electric cars, told the wife i will get a tesla in about 10 years and slap a v6 in it long live petrol.
Totally agree, my work car is a 2005 Skoda Fabia VRS 197,000 young, still returning between 46 and 52 mpg on my 400mile a week commute. Purchased for £900 2 years ago on 155,000 miles. It’s just had 4 tyres before Xmas, a brake line for its first ever mot failure, and a thermostat….. I replace the oil 3 times a year and she purrs like a kitten. Unfortunately the dreaded tin worm is striking hard, but I will be looking for another old mileage muncher to replace it. Keep these old car videos coming. 👌👍🏼👍🏼
I'm currently running around in a 20 year old vauxhall combo.
It's done 460,000 miles on its original engine and gearbox.
Diesel FTW.
If it wasn't for rust I bet a 1992 combo with the 1.5 diesel would still be going.
The last nova with the 1.5td engine was an absolute gem of a car.
my dad is 96 and just give up driving is 1998 civic he got from new .serviced it only .It has just passed it mot and ready too go again for the new owner .What a car it has been no trouble at all
Are you selling…? Lovely story
I can’t agree more I have. 2015 XC 90 that just chugs along like a dream
You are correct and the question needs answering.
I've had a £550 Wreg v 70 for 4years. The 5 cylinder 2.5 petrol engine sounds incredible, its comfortable,practical and has been very reliable. I will keep it until such time as it becomes knackered beyond repair! I only drive it about 2000miles per year so the environmental impact of me buying a new ev would basically never be offset! Good luck with your 35mpg though(unless you don't do any short or around town trips and drive like a nun) I average about 25 mpg 👍
My mum and dad have had 3 cars since I was born . I'm 45 I total see where you'd coming from. Very well said
The idea that EVs break even on CO2 after 50k miles ignores the fact that the energy to charge them creates CO2 emissions. The EV agenda is darker that you think.
Volvo did a study. C60 vs c60 recharge.
2 cars built in the same factory on the same production line except 1 becomes an EV the other gets an engine.
Volvo stated that it will take the EV 70,000 miles to pay back the manufacturing pollution over the diesel c60.
They also added that after 70,000 miles you may be considering replacing the battery.
@@sahhull was the study published?
It just doesn't add up and we are never going to be allowed an honest debate.
@@twig3288 yes.
Great video. I bought an XC90 2.4 D5 in 2014 on a 61 plate with 80k miles (1 owner) - it cost me £17k. I still have the car 9 years later. It now has 190k miles on it and goes as well as the day I bought it. It is the best car I have ever had. I will never buy an EV car but will run this beauty into the ground. 😄
Ignore money as that's irrelevant to the environment, but the very existence of your 25 year old car evidences that newer cars trickle down through the used trade.
The majority of electricity does not come from coal and oil.
You have a point in part, but the amount of electricity energy from fossil fuel has been reducing, and the gas power stations are much cleaner than car exhausts.
In making a direct comparison between co2 outputs we also need to consider the refining of oil into petrol and diesel.
But is it better to build a new gas guzzler for someone doing 20 or 30k a year in their company car? I think you'll agree that electricity is the way forwards!
Great video. I own one family car: a 27 year old Toyota Landcruiser Prado, which I have had for 22 years.
Fantastically well said Geoff, Very bonkers times and unnecessarily wasteful. Love it Geoff
Driving a 1993 940 with 400k km as a daily, still drives like a dream
I have a 19 year old 350z and only drive it at the weekend.
I'm definitely helping the environment
I've just got shut of my Volvo estate had it for 8 years was a great car done 155,000 miles been serviced every year , 2010 plate , but developed a fault on the injectors which cost quite a lot , so I sold it ,down sized , but it was an eco diesel engine 1.6, £20 a year rd tax ,
I now have a vauxhall agila very economic and cheap to run . Great video. 👍
Spot on.
Thank you!
I have an 03 MR2 mk3, a 96 MR2 mk2 turbo import. Quite happy to own them for the rest of my life, I love them like you love your Volvos. I do also lease a 2018 CX5 as a family car which I've had from new and just extended the lease on it because I like it so much and I don't see anything on the market worth replacing it with at the moment.
So I absolutely agree with your opinion. We really don't need new cars every 3 years. It's just vanity and profiteering by manufacturers. However....
There's no way that Polestar cost 300 quid a month even on lease 😉😂
Well done great video .I have four cars only use one very year .and the oldest one is 82yrs old and the newest is 53yrs old .👍👍😀😀😀
Thank you - agree with everything you say. I also share your car buying philosophy, and have done for over 20 years. My last car (Volvo V90 (960)) only had to go after my wife crashed it.
Yup. A 1999 V70 here. It's done 280K and still runs. Run it. Cheap motoring and goes forever.
I'm driving '09 Civic Mk8 1.8 and not planning to change it in near future. Simple as 90's vehicle, no stupid sensors, no plastics bs on crucial parts, easy to work on. Lifetime timing chain unless you stop changing oil every 5-6k miles. A lot space inside and big boot regarding to outside measurements. The only thing I can complain about is fuel consumption which is about 30 MPG around London
I bought a used ford 1/2 ton been driving it for 14 years it's 17 years old now and has cost me next to nothing and it drives beautifully still!
Totally agree, had to scrap my 21 year old Volvo due to rust had it 19 years , it had 286000 miles on the clock
Also Ofgem has stated that the grid can easily support everyone getting an EV. I doubt off peak electricity overnight will exist anymore though.
Grid might, but individual branches down streets, especially in cities won't
You do talk sense,unlike the greens! Like the hat less look,much better, be out and proud grass doesn’t grow on a busy street.Mine stared to recede when I was 21, but
I didntage until my late 50’s my mates allwenrgrey😄
Hi Geoff. I agree with a your underlying principle but two main issues for me.
1 uk Grid delivers about 59% zero carbon energy these days. Virtually all coal stations now closed and gas ones joining them soon!!
2. Everyone always dismisses the carbon monoxide produced in oil extraction transport and refining when presenting these arguments. Even if we all drive oldbb can petrol cars the oil industry will still be producing huge quantities of CO and destroying the environment in pursuit of petrol production.
Good comment, the science is complex but look at my recent video on blood batteries
Im sticking with my 21 year old Hyundai Santa Fe.
Runs great
Hopefully should run for another 20 years.
Whats environmentally friendly about scrapping something that is perfectly fine
Keep her going , Geoff. Looks smart body wise . Got a now 24 year old 1999 Saab 93 LPT turbo convertible, had it since 2018 , spent money on her each year to keep her going , still looks very presentable, I tend to use her for high days and holidays etc , as I have a company car, but if I replaced it would be a second hand - classic car etc. Literally can’t see the point in buying brand new for private usage , huge depreciation etc plus if the truth be known they look bloody awful, if fact down right ugly in many cases.
I've got 2 cars, I am just going to start them both up now and give them a good revving just for the sake of it and BECAUSE I CAN!!!!!!!
Agree 100% and happen to love old Volvos.
I have for daily drive, a 97 V70 2.0l with 295k and going on and on , just love it , Volvo4life
Have owned a 1999 V70 2.5ltr 5-speed manual since 2007. Currently has 169K on the clock and passes its MOT with only a couple of small advisories each year. Just replaced the front struts and springs as the originals were showing their age. I wonder if any new Ford focus's or Vauxhall Vectra's will still be running on their original struts in 23 years time !
Mate you’re bang on. Makes so much sense.
You are totally right. I have only owned 3 cars in the passed 25 years, all of them diesels. My current car is a non LEZ compliant 14 year old Toyota RAV4, with only 80,000 miles on the clock and after sailing through the last two MOTs, I reckon this car will do 300k miles easy. Why should I be fined, when I am doing more for the environment that any electric car owner by driving and maintaining an old car instead of buying new ones every 3 years!?
Ron Champion's Locost recognised these principals - oftentimes the powertrain of cars outlasted the frame. So Ron devised an open source generic frame based on the Lotus Seven into which the powertrain of existing cars can be transplanted for a second life - much like organ donation!
I still think that the government should trail a electric conversion scheme for older cars! I don’t like the look of most new cars and would love a older car that is an EV! (If I have to eventually have a EV)
I must admit, I feel a sort of inverted snobbery when I find myself in the oldest car in the car park or even the oldest car I see on my entire commute (from Worcestershire to Bristol). Even more so in terms of owning the car for so long. I don’t think even Robert DIY (www.youtube.com/@RobertDIY) has owned the same Volvo 850 for more than 30 years (incidentally, not sure why he never seems to appear on the Volvo Owners Club forum). I have owned the same Volvo 244 for 26 years, V70 for 21 years and 850 getting on for 30 years.
There’s a certain joy in having the oldest car in the car park!
I drive a 940GL. It's way more environmentally friendly than any new EV.
Nice V70 mate... I'm looking for one.
Agree 100% one question £25a yr rd tax?
Yeah I meant 'per month' not 'per year'. I was tired!
I agree. My newest car is a 1986 with 486,000 Km.
So much cooler than the post 2015 Volvo's.
Your thumbnail for this video is gold! Gold I tells ya! 😂
There's one car that is even more environmentally friendly still. It has a little 600cc two cylinder engine, built to a simple straight forward design with very little to break on it. It also has body panels made from a type of plastic created using recycled cotton. Built to an original design with very little change over the years meaning spare parts will fit any car. Made in Germany so probably good build quality. The Trabant 601.
I’ve got a P2 xc70 and it a lovely little car, I’ve named it Dorris and it gets treated like on of the family pets 😂😂
if fuel goes up to £4 a litre Ill make my own at home, there is a point where it becomes viable to do so, I ran two citroen xantias 1.9TD SX estate models for 7 years making my own fuel and although I had complaints from the neighbours about running a generator ,the fire inspectors and council visited one day with the police they were all more interested in the process with lots of questions than they were in the complaint and they all left very happy with their new knowledge virtually indorsing everything I was doing. you can run biodiesel 2495 litres a year and pay no tax on it but you must keep records of how much you put in your vechicle, just in case. out of the two Xantias one did 130k and the other did 125k one was 22 years old and the other 18 years old.
Something neat about old cars that look good I pride myself in my 11 year old Audi that looks as new.
Well said I’m with you all the way 👍
I am driving a 2006 Mercedes diesel with 160,000 miles and still going strong.
Like the carpeting, funky👍
Not so sure about the urban DPM seat covers though 🤔
You're correct about keeping older cars on the road, I'll be using my 7yr old 15 plate 2.2tdi antara on the road as long as possible 😊
Seat covers were on the car already and I agree.... they belong in a T4 van 😂
My 1986 Volvo 740 did 308,000 miles. I’d still be driving it now if some garage mechanic hadn’t written it off.
Dad's Lexus IS200 is 20 years old and its MOT is soon! :0
Being a Toyota it should go smoothly. 😌
The greatest "Cleans everything brilliantly" Spray is Dettol multi-surface cleaner. I have no idea what they put in it - possibly plutonium - but it beats every other cleaner ever invented for cleaning everything.
That & I agree with everything you are saying. My car was €400 3 years ago - it's a turbodiesel & it gets 60mpg easily. It's also 18 years old - runs like a top. I pay it no heed & seldom lay a spanner on it. My Missus drives a more expensive car - hers was €450 - but that was 6 years ago so maybe they are of similar value.. When either break - which isn't often - I (shocker) fix them. What do I do for a living? I fix cars - usually other peoples Posh modern cars. I have zero clue how they afford the repairs - I've fitted indicator lights that cost more than any car I'd own by choice these days - but hey-ho. Each to their own, I guess.
I used think what you drove mattered - years ago - I had almost every "Dream car" going at one stage or another - V12 Mercs, Skylines, Rocketship Mitsubishi's, every fast Toyota, Bullet Volvos - all the "Top Trumps" of cars - then I got a bit of sense & dropped out of the race, Now I only care that it starts & leaves my wallet intact. Someone else can do the cutting edge. I'll fix it for them when it breaks - but it's gonna be spendy. as the new stuff is rubbish. If we really cared about being "Green" - we'd keep all the cars that are already built going - and build no more - it would kill the car industry barring parts manufacturers, but maybe that wouldn't be such a bad thing considering what way they have gone the last few years.
Look at Cuba, for whatever reason they basically became a closed market with no new cars. Now the most fantastic old cars in the world are there and they have the skills to keep them going.
I have 2 same colours,one with 2.5 atmosphere engine and one is turbo,awesome car . Now im in project of interrior,table,all sides going in natural leather,seats,roof,all. Cuz im leather handcrafter and wanna make unique v70. Nice video
I agree with everything you say about keeping existing cars going making much more sense than pouring more and more rare resources into new "motors". You are wrong about where most of our electrickery comes from though. Just looking at the stats for this very minute- It's a pretty calm day and the light is going, at the moment- 19.2% from wind, 12.68% from nuclear and 39.86% from CCGT (Cold condensing gas turbines). Also dribs and drabs from pumped flow, a bit from hydro, solar has gone now, biomasis nearly 5%, nothing from coal or other gas and if I am reading the screen right, approx. 15% from other countries grids. At peak times they sometimes burn a bit of coal but mostly they just wind up the gas powered stations. It is not possible to wind nuclear up and down on demand, so nuclear power operates at a set level and all the other sources handle the peaks and troughs of demand. When there is a lot of wind they can back off the amount of gas they use and I often see electricity being exported to other countries.
Sorry, got a bit carried away there! Yes, your Volvo is a great idea! Like your videos, keep 'em coming!
still running my 1999 V70 love it, the whole electric car idea is a scam the infastructure is just not there,
A very well argued set of reasons why electric simply cars don't work.
The environmental damage from extracting lithium is just one point. In Chile, lithium mining is damaging the air and the soil - and contaminating water that people and wildlife depend on.
Everything else is covered extremely well in this video. I'll stay with my lovely Volvo V40; 114,000 miles from new and still purring along, no issues, apart from the one you had Geoff, i.e. the engine under-shield parting company with the car. If you haven't refitted it yet, don't bother. It doesn't do much anyway!
i know im late to the party here...but i have 2013 merc c250 and dont plan on ever replacing it unless i can get a pick up (far more practical for transporting drums and kayaks) . i live in a flat and parking is hotly contested so there will never be any guarantee i could park outside to charge an electric car .
I've got a 2007 V70 d5 185bhp. It's tuned but won't bore you with listing the bits.
16 year old car with 253k and many many more miles left.
I'll never buy a new car.
To many people must have the latest everything.
Bang on about scrapping cars! My friend in outer London has a 20 year old car. For the mileage they do he'd gladly keep it longer. But because it's worthless I fear if he got a new one to avoid ULEZ the old one would end up scrapped, not good for the planet at all.
I had similar 1997 model with a turbo (160,873 miles driven) until the weekend before Christmas 2022. Even the coloring was same... inside & outside. It was very nice car but due to bad weather I crashed it. :(
I've had my 2003 Rover 75 Tourer diesel Auto for 15 years.
Now on 210k miles and still feels tight to drive.
It has the BMW M47 (chain driven no cam belts).
These engines are capable of at least half million miles. I know 2 which have done over 700k.
This will see me out.
Heartedly agree with your argument about the carbon footprint, and yes reduce the amount of new cars made.
Ridiculous habit buying a new car every 3 years. 🤬🤬👌
I got a V70 -04 170hp. Never gonna by a car made later than that.
I got a VW Vento from 1996 a realy reliable car and cheap to maintain.
I got a VW from 1994
Are made to last. Modern cars are made to break.
The manufacturers seem to be selling electric cars to go on a lease with the intention of looking after it for 3 years. As you say with no consideration for what we already have. Look at Cuba, no new cars after the 1950's? and most of those cars are still on the road with a make do and mend industry who know everything about how to keep these old cars running. Surely, recycling is the future. Keeping your car for 10 years, or 20 years if you have a Volvo, makes much more sense than buying a new one and scrapping it after 3-5 years as the manufacturers and most governments would like.
Absolutely right hear hear 👏
I totally get the sentiment, but if new cars are built, then they better be EVs. Im all for keeping old cars running. My 2008 V70 has 418 000 km on it and still drives nice. I will try to keep it running as long as i can
I've got a13 year old audi s5 cabriolet and its great..
I live the urban cam deck chair stripped beast.
You are correct the electric green cars are essentially powered by fossil fuels. Regarding charging elec cars we (UK) don't have the infrastructure in place or the power producing means of providing the power, the power network is 'run' by a UK firm but a lot of our power is supplied by the French(EDF).
No they aren't and the grid is getting cleaner. Please look at gridwatch to see the current makeup.
UK grid is often about 50% renewables, less than 1% coal. As I write this, gas is 38%, coal 3% nuclear 5% but please see for yourself on different days.
It’s a personal choice for me i really don’t want a brick on wheels with brown interior that’s my own view but Geoff keeps going on and on and on about it
Nothing more environmental friendly than using, maintaining and upcycling what you've already got instead of buying new crap!
Talked to a driver the other day who was going to be part of a team pouring fivehundredand twenty cubic metres of concrete for a wind farm. Green energy, my arse!
I come from a family where we drove cars until the wheels fell off and then we put the wheels back on and drove it some more. When you look at the overall thermal efficiency of an EV versus a petrol car, the EV is only about 10 to 20% thermally more efficient than a petrol car when the electricity comes from fossil fuels. This is due to the inherent losses when burning fossil fuels at a central power plant to produce electricity then transporting it to the charging station in order to charge the EV.
A very good point well made. Plus, the infrastructure for EVs has to be put in place and will be obsolete soon.
04 Rx8 6mt. (+ 2 cycle oil) less pollution than new e-v production and running.
The most common sense report I've heard in many years, well done.
£500 right there...... I'll fold, can't "bring" anything to counter that. Cheers great vid.
I’ve literally been saying this for years now! I always my old land rover ninety that’s still going from 1984(?) is actually pretty Green I. The grand scheme of things.
Facts Brother!
No contest. You've heard the expression: "Needs must when the Devil drives!"
I think that's probably going to be the case in the future.
Internal combustion will win through purely because it'll be 30 years before the UK gets anywhere near building the infrastructure to support EVs.
Your way is similar to mine; I own a 2006 Lexus GS300 SE-L. Very rapid, very reliable, surprisingly economical, (40mpg at 70mph on a motorway and avg 24mpg round town!), and superbly comfortable and silent. (I'm old so love peace and comfort). I love my car and see no point in changing it.
I have to disagree with your £4:00p a litre estimate. I think (hope) that we will see massive change in not only government, but the way we're represented long before that sort of price for petrol/diesel can be reached. Currently, I'm planning to convert to LPG fairly soon. It's half the cost of petrol, is a lot more efficient and burns very clean. We shall have to see what happens - perhaps make things happen ourselves. In reality, We The People are a lot stronger than those we elect to serve us. Keep'em coming Geoff
in November i bought a 27 year old merc 250 diesel with no mot non runner for £350 the only thing i spent money on is a pair of batteries for key fob front springs and a service all done buy myself i put it in for mot and it past with no advisories
I'll be driving my 180k mile 2.2 Petrol Vauxhall Vectra Estate until the wheels fall off. Its cost £2500 over the course of 4 Years ownership, and that include tyres.
All cars I buy are cheap but they immediately get new discs and pads,together with a brake fluid change .
2001 v70 here... bought last summer for £500... bit of a guzzler but lovely to drive