Most of us don’t use critical thinking because we were brought to believe the absolute worst of our own. In school we were conditioned to think “there’s no way blacks can have both wealth and power without bashing the law” however we tend to forget the 400 years prior to our first black billionaire. I’m in Texas and can drive down the street right now with my mom as the passenger and we could see a horse sitting on 80 hours and she will assume not only are they white but are millionaires for a proper reason. We can then drive several minutes further see another mansion and a black man in a lab coat with a name tag that reads White., Ph.d and she will immediately assume he’s a street pharmacist. I live in a 3300 square foot home and spent 8 years in school working towards my Doctorate. My neighbor has a 4800 square foot home and is a store manager of Best Buy. I’m told I don’t belong by my own people.
Who has friends at the age of 13 that drive? Why would your friend drop you off at an afterparty at the age of 13 and why didn't your friend go to the party with you knowing you were 13? How old was this friend? All critical questions that need to be addressed before any other part in her story continues
THIS🎯🎯 and how did she conveniently bump into one of Diddy’s drivers out of ALL the celebrities that were attending the VMAs??? For all we know the limo driver just said that and he was the one that SA’d her if anything happened at all🤷🏽♀️🤦🏾♀️
We were driving at 13. Had a few girls in high school go to juvenile dcs from joyriding their parents car. Happens all the time. Plus people have older friends.
Did she say her friend was 13? Could have taken her parents car? I believe all women but lying like this woman is harmful to real victims who are looking for justice not a payday and women who are found to be lying should have to do time because they’re dangerous
Well that’s a good friend because I don’t know if I’m dropping someone off with a 10 hour commute time . Conveniently and unfortunately this driver friend has since passed away…
A big white house with a circular driveway in the middle of Manhattan? Come on! Plus, no one was riding in limos in the year 2000. Everyone was in Escalades and Suburbans. And everyone was photoed at the club after the VMAs, not at a house party. The story is not adding up. And no way a daughter tells her father she just got assaulted and he doesn't take her to the hospital or police. Hell, most dads would have driven around the city until she could point out where it happened at so he could handle it himself.
Now that this Jane doe came out and basically said that she lied!!! I wonder what the HATERS are gonna spin now! This is what happens when you rush to judgement before you get all the facts of the matter. People are so impatient.
Its nothing wrong with defending Jay Z, He hasnt show us to be a evil person through the years. while the allegations could be true or false. He does not have the same reputation Diddy has had through out the years. I dont believe Jay did it, but im not the Judge or God. What we think doesnt matter ultimately..
@@paulvalenzuela7994Shady and Petty is not Evil…U have your pick of the litter with diddy, from Biggie death to the Shyne situation to the wild Diddy parties we all heard about to being 37 dating 19 year old cassie. I can keep going, you catch my drift? Jay maybe is a devil behind the scenes, Diddy has been a devil in the public for the last 20 years…Whats the worst thing u heard about Jay? Dating Beyonce? Making music with R. kelly? Blocking 50 Cent for the Super bowl? Lol
Bro, the shit is crazy that know one is calling this clown out for actually making a joke out of this issue. What if there was a minor in play and this man is making a joke out of this. When the last time anyone heard Jay say anything about 50? He kills him with the business moves he make, and that’s what hurt 50 so much because he know the level of Jay success is unreachable for him.
I respect your honesty. I wish more people on UA-cam actually looked into a situation before they comment on it. I will never understand why so many people hate jay
I Hate him for Hurtjng DMXs Legacy and holding up his career. I also don’t like how he Killed Lil mama Career just for dancing w him and Alicia on stage. The Whole “Not guilty” Song w/ R Kelly despite knowing the WHOLE time. Gross
@ you are allowed to have those personal feelings because I agree. What we are not going to do is allow feelings like that to make a person say he’s guilty of something he didn’t do. Jay has blackballed a lot of careers but because people know that they want him to be guilty of this. No sir, this situation he is in is bogus & he doesn’t deserve that. nobody does no matter how much of a piece of 💩 he could be. Lastly the not guilty song was a jay song for the un stabbing. jay never publicly said r Kelly wasn’t guilty but also r kelly beat that case so that is spotty ground. Lil mama wasn’t talented sorry. she had a little buz but just like the “get tipsy guy” & so many others at that time those artists didn’t last. I guarantee you can’t name 5 of her songs & her album sales were horrible. You got to look at situations like that objectively didn’t a guy get beat up for jumping on the stage with 50? what did jay do that you actually can confirm. I advise on that you do the proper research
@@doingstuffinpublic DMX killed his whole career by being a drug addict and not having control of his life. Jay cancelled DMX debt at def jam. 12 million dollars.
So she said a limo driver told her to get in the limo because he could get her in the party....why isn't he charged....then she said she given drinks and she got drunk and passed out, so how do you know who assaulted you, then she said she escaped ran to a gas station and called her dad which he came to pick her up, then she proceeds to tell him she just got assaulted and the dad does nothing....come on brah....what dad is going to be silent for damn near 25 years....I don't believe her story
Exactly, I need to see a follow up at a hospital. I couldn't imagine being an adult picking a child up in the middle of the night. She's traumatized and could have an STD or be pregnant. Also, I feel parents need to do better. You should always know where a 13 year old is at and if you don't thats a problem. I've been 13 and know girls none where trying to go to the VMA after party because we couldn't.
Wayno I’m with you as far as using reason and SOUND LOGIC to think about and break down these allegations. But bro, MAD PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO BELIEVE WHATEVER said about Black celebrities (men and women). Critical thinking is lacking. I’ll wait and see what happens fam
Don't know what happened 24 years. But what I do know its been 24 years. Why didn't the accusser say anything for 24 years? Can anyone come out of nowhere and make alegations that are decades old. And the accuser remains anonymous? Thats not justice
Yes. Diddy, R. Kelly, Weinstein, Epstein, Cosby, all had one thing in common. Money. They're well-known people who had a lot of push and pull. What can a non-rich person do against rich people at their heights. All of these men had victims come out years later. They're mogul (sans Kelly), with power and wealth. Most people don't have. It's scary, and they see how people respond to go up against rich people. Its scary.
Man am I tripping or was Hov known for wanting to be away from ppl who were turnt up? Sure he's with puff in photos, events, afterparties. But that is business. Even popping bottles. Image, lifestyle - thats business. Once the cameras go away how much tolerance did Jay ever have for puff... let alone willingness to do heinous shit with Puff? An accusation that Jay engaged in some misconduct alone... that's one thing.... but WITH PUFF? That alone doesn't sound right - but maybe my impression is off.
You’re spot on. Ppl can separate business from nonsense. U think the way puff treated biggie that Jay would be his friend? It was business, and he steps away on the personal sh… There may be photos, but I have never seen jays kids interacting with puffs kids at all.
People always say they dont believe the Drake stuff, but never say how they feel about all the suspect activity he partook in, in public 😂 Kendrick didn't lie, he exaggerated 😂
@TheKidwonda he said he likes them young, and he seems to lol. Maybe not of illegal age, but barely legal lol so calling him a pdf would be an exaggeration lol
@@uncannygold he never said that, you literally just made that up which is even more disgusting. Something wrong with yall out here just putting that on people’s jacket. Its funny because most of Drake’s dating history is him dating his age bracket or even older
At a time like this, where anyone can “report” on things because they have a mic and camera, people can say anything these days unfortunately. Regardless if he’s innocent or not, the rumor mill is big business and that’s all that matters to people.
It’s so sad that social media has people not using critical thinking and common sense on their judgement of said stated facts!! Then they’re condemning the ones who use it and make perfect sense of it. Smh Keep doing your thing Wayno and thanks for being an individual with your own thoughts!!
Thank you for this comment. I feel like sometimes I sound like a Diddy apologist and while I think he’s a piece of crap, some of these claims are pretty outlandish. Including the baby oil being laced 🤷🏾♀️. Let’s be serious. People saw that video and you can tell somebody that Diddy met them on the moon and hurt them and everyone would believe it.
To possibly win a civil suits you don't need any evidence just the possibility and the opportunity that the event could've happened. This is why the case isn't filed at a criminal case for that you need hard evidence. This so called victim´s story is hard to believe. Then again we are still living in a world where stories are made up every day and there is always going to be someone who will believer them. Its always guilty until you prove your nonsense.
My thing is if she’s 13 at the time, how old was her friend because I’m assuming if she was 13 her Friend got to be 13 or at least 14 because I don’t see a 17, 18 or even a 20 year old being friends with a 13-year-old so how old was her friend that drop her off at the VMA?
@2:42 well you tell us yourself that you are not really looking at this objectively, which is what the courts are for. I know you came up with Roc-a-fella, but you’re selling your speculation as fact, that’s in bad faith and a misuse of your influence
Wayno Someone told me that Foxy signed an NDA when I stated that Kurupt was in a relationship with Foxy. People don't research or look at timelines and are celebrity-obsessed no matter if they love or hate the celebrity.
If it came out that there are real victims of Jay out there I wouldn’t be surprised.. but the facts about this specific case aren’t really aligning for me. I’m seeing too many holes in this story.. but I guess time will tell
I rock with you! I enjoy hearing your POV regardless if I agree or not. It's nice to hear other people's perspective on these topics. Keep grinding! 💯💜
10:38 There’s video proof of Rihanna on the Tyra show talking about how Jay-Z kept her in a room to sign a contract (AT 16!!!). You can find it on UA-cam. She states “he told me there are 2 ways out that room - through the door with the contract signed or out the window and we’re on the 26th floor.” If that can happen at 16 - who knows what else. I think for EVERYONE’S sake, we should leave this at “We Do not know” because we really don’t. Seemingly good people can do heinous things and there are people who will lie out there for a bag. We really don’t know how this will play out and should leave it at that, in my opinion.
This really shows me people want to see Jay Z fall. I don’t even know why he’s so hated by the public. He may have finessed some of his business partners but that’s the game.
Learning the details of how he was saying he has survivors behind him then how the case is put together- it reminded me of Mamamax. If these are lies, then the lawyer is doing more danger for the victims he represent and actual victims might have harder time fighting justice.
To piggyback on a 13 year old signing a NDA is impossible. A can’t sign an agreement without her parent’s permission. So why would anyone give her a NDA to sign if they were aware of her age. This whole shit is a money grab
Wayno said Hov lied about showing Nas a tek but LARGE PROFESSOR said it was true lmaooo.Drew Barrymore was definitely under age in clubs drinking with grown ups Google her
Where do you see the specific times in the lawsuit? I don’t see any actual times being mentioned but you are right she said from the VMAS to the house was 20 minutes you would have to look at the geography to see if there is a house like that from the VMAS .
This case will keep going on for Years but there will be more shit that will stick to jay z.Beyonce gonna keep her distance.Its not gonna look good for Jay,stop protecting his name ,he's done
@ All of the signs have been there! Good job on making an honest living though. Although I have outgrown this genre of music. This music is a tool to build or destroy! It’s been used as tool to destroy and the rituals to control the airwaves are of the Prince of Darkness. I appreciate you commenting and the respectful response
And so are the people that believe anything they read or hear online. Confirmation bias already has people declaring Jay guilty. You didnt even watch the video before you commented lol
@@SolidSnake240we live in a society now where people can just wake up and throw anything on your name. And people will just run with it. They need no proof when accused. But want proof for their innocence. Ass backwards. Same people that claim they are so intelligent and have critical thinking skills.
That angle has always been weird to me. The people aint the judge, jury, or God. So they shouldnt be looked at a certain way. Everybody has the right to be wrong, u shouldnt be condemned for it
@@SolidSnake240idk. They don't operate by the same rules... If Jay z does turn out to be a PDF then he's right. Every channel that defended him will suffer some sort of loss If it turns out that Jay z is innocent everyone running his name through the mud will just act like it never happened and nobody will care. The asymmetry is crazy.
There’s a lawyer from Brooklyn on this platform that wipes this guy and his caping for Jayz, this is just embarrassing to be running this level of interference for a guy that ain’t paying your bills
Thank you, Wayno! For using discernment and showing us you have common sense because the comments I’ve seen on social media are always conspiracy theorists rhetoric
The fucked up part is some of these people will be in the room with them and they don’t do anything but just cuz they are there at the same time that’s just enough for people to believe it
Must be my era cause i was asking similar questions, and i got no love for J. What 13 yr old gets dropped off by a gf to the vmas to try to get in but goes to the limos, the limo drovers not trying tp get in, and the friend has to be 15 or 16 at a min at the time, skipping all the bs in the middle, she escaped to a convenience store and called her dad, no body tracked down the employee? What's the dad's version of the events? No chance in hell my daughter call me to get her in the middle of the might from some random place, looking like a hot mess and i dont ask questions or knock a couple of heads, even if this is true the holes are glaring
Remember when T.I and his wife had gang accusations every other week? What happened to that? And Trey Songs can’t start a new year without a case that disappears as soon as it happens.. shits weird!
Bro, you in Atlanta. I’m in Atlanta. We NEED to link and talk hip hop. I’d love to be a guest. I can’t believe you just mentioned the Lil vs TI beef. THEY DONT KNOW 😭 “FLIP! Bring yo punk ahh to the stageeeee! Has anyone seen Lil Flip lately??” 😭😭😭😂😂😂
Don’t get me started on the Down With The King mixtape where TIP was calling around getting receipts from REAL Houston Gs in between SCATHING diss tracks all through the tape 😂😂😂
My question is, if this was NJ with a U shaped driveway where she eventually fled from, how did she mess around and just run to a gas station? The neighborhoods with mansions don’t just have a gas station down the block from a multi million dollar property. And when her father picked her up, did he not want to call the police of go back to house after seeing his daughter disheveled wearing a towel? Make it make sense
It’s ALWAYS us that does this to us too🤦🏾♀️We will cheer for an artist & support them on their way up, watch them work hard to EARN their success & money then we’ll be the first ones to claim they’re in some Illuminati or sold their souls even tho we watched them work to get where they are….idk if it’s bcuz they don’t understand how a celebrity can have all that they don’t have or what, but it’s getting weirder & weirder by the day😔 Idk what happened in the Jay situation, but like he said…why not file a criminal charge bcuz what he’s being accused of is so heinous?? AND we’re supposed to just believe that this young girl had to fight her way out the room and was so distraught that when he dad picked her up he didn’t take her to the police or at least the hospital?? He should be fighting it, but of course some just want him to be guilty with no proof bcuz he was cool with Diddy😔
Jay has never shown himself to be an evil person. People only go after him because of his net worth. They wanna make him into another Diddy but it won’t work
Bruh. Come on. Quit glazing Jay. He has a looooooong history of being a pervert and predator. Check out Jonathan Hay. That’s all I got to say. Disappointed in you bro.
@@coryjackson6944 I’m not even talking about this case in particular. Jay Z was running with R Kelly and Diddy. What does that tell you? How old was Beyoncé when he first was with her? Y’all denying the Foxy Brown thing but I’m not slow…come on. Also he was with Rihanna when she was underage as well. Look up Jonathan Hay if you think it’s 🧢
Wayno Dame has said that Jay started hating once Dame got with Aaliyah. He’s brought up the story a handful of times. Jay never had Aaliyah but that’s why he was hating and took her out.
Thanks for not finding someone guilty before the real evidence. Not many people on youtube are using critical thinking, just he's guilty without much information.
Most of us don’t use critical thinking because we were brought to believe the absolute worst of our own. In school we were conditioned to think “there’s no way blacks can have both wealth and power without bashing the law” however we tend to forget the 400 years prior to our first black billionaire. I’m in Texas and can drive down the street right now with my mom as the passenger and we could see a horse sitting on 80 hours and she will assume not only are they white but are millionaires for a proper reason. We can then drive several minutes further see another mansion and a black man in a lab coat with a name tag that reads White., Ph.d and she will immediately assume he’s a street pharmacist. I live in a 3300 square foot home and spent 8 years in school working towards my Doctorate. My neighbor has a 4800 square foot home and is a store manager of Best Buy. I’m told I don’t belong by my own people.
Fantastic post!!
Absolutely correct.
This is definitely some ambulance chaser shit just like when all them random people started trying to sue usher. Creating a hotline is crazy.
Bc it’s an empire. It’s gonna take more than one case to take these monsters down.
@@paulvalenzuela7994
The Man is innocent until proven guilty!! Let that sink in for few minutes!
Who has friends at the age of 13 that drive? Why would your friend drop you off at an afterparty at the age of 13 and why didn't your friend go to the party with you knowing you were 13? How old was this friend? All critical questions that need to be addressed before any other part in her story continues
THIS🎯🎯 and how did she conveniently bump into one of Diddy’s drivers out of ALL the celebrities that were attending the VMAs??? For all we know the limo driver just said that and he was the one that SA’d her if anything happened at all🤷🏽♀️🤦🏾♀️
We were driving at 13. Had a few girls in high school go to juvenile dcs from joyriding their parents car. Happens all the time. Plus people have older friends.
@@igdjdyou’re reaching, you might dislocate your elbow. Let it play out.
Did she say her friend was 13? Could have taken her parents car? I believe all women but lying like this woman is harmful to real victims who are looking for justice not a payday and women who are found to be lying should have to do time because they’re dangerous
Well that’s a good friend because I don’t know if I’m dropping someone off with a 10 hour commute time . Conveniently and unfortunately this driver friend has since passed away…
A big white house with a circular driveway in the middle of Manhattan? Come on! Plus, no one was riding in limos in the year 2000. Everyone was in Escalades and Suburbans. And everyone was photoed at the club after the VMAs, not at a house party. The story is not adding up. And no way a daughter tells her father she just got assaulted and he doesn't take her to the hospital or police. Hell, most dads would have driven around the city until she could point out where it happened at so he could handle it himself.
They lying on jayz they trying to destroy dude I saw this coming with Jaguar wright on piers Morgan salute wayno
They’re going overtime lol, case don’t even make sense
@@Dhdhdhuxbxbmakes 0 sense just throwing shit at a wall to see what sticks
If you wanna go down a rabbit hole, look up the casino Jayz trying to put in times square lol
Anybody who listens to that woman and absorbs her info needs to seek mental help. That woman is evil.
I feel like they targeting very successfully black celebrities to trying bring them down.
Finally somebody that use their brain and actually did research 💯💪🏾
Yeah I knew wayno would make it make sense
@@romelegend2334right I had to subscribe
Now that this Jane doe came out and basically said that she lied!!! I wonder what the HATERS are gonna spin now! This is what happens when you rush to judgement before you get all the facts of the matter. People are so impatient.
Its nothing wrong with defending Jay Z, He hasnt show us to be a evil person through the years. while the allegations could be true or false. He does not have the same reputation Diddy has had through out the years. I dont believe Jay did it, but im not the Judge or God. What we think doesnt matter ultimately..
Jay has done so many shady things 😂
@@paulvalenzuela7994Shady and Petty is not Evil…U have your pick of the litter with diddy, from Biggie death to the Shyne situation to the wild Diddy parties we all heard about to being 37 dating 19 year old cassie. I can keep going, you catch my drift? Jay maybe is a devil behind the scenes, Diddy has been a devil in the public for the last 20 years…Whats the worst thing u heard about Jay? Dating Beyonce? Making music with R. kelly? Blocking 50 Cent for the Super bowl? Lol
Aaliya was born in 79 she was grown when jay z met her
50 cent becoming lame as time passes. I know him Jay not cool but to pander on the grape allegations wild
Bro, the shit is crazy that know one is calling this clown out for actually making a joke out of this issue. What if there was a minor in play and this man is making a joke out of this. When the last time anyone heard Jay say anything about 50? He kills him with the business moves he make, and that’s what hurt 50 so much because he know the level of Jay success is unreachable for him.
Exactly, I understand competition but this is just petty. What makes you laugh now can make you cry later I believe that whole heartedly
He’s been lame and a certified a$$hole! People praise him for his pettiness and supports his tv shows but I am not a fan, never have been..
I respect your honesty. I wish more people on UA-cam actually looked into a situation before they comment on it. I will never understand why so many people hate jay
I Hate him for Hurtjng DMXs Legacy and holding up his career. I also don’t like how he Killed Lil mama Career just for dancing w him and Alicia on stage. The Whole “Not guilty” Song w/ R Kelly despite knowing the WHOLE time. Gross
@ you are allowed to have those personal feelings because I agree. What we are not going to do is allow feelings like that to make a person say he’s guilty of something he didn’t do. Jay has blackballed a lot of careers but because people know that they want him to be guilty of this. No sir, this situation he is in is bogus & he doesn’t deserve that. nobody does no matter how much of a piece of 💩 he could be. Lastly the not guilty song was a jay song for the un stabbing. jay never publicly said r Kelly wasn’t guilty but also r kelly beat that case so that is spotty ground. Lil mama wasn’t talented sorry. she had a little buz but just like the “get tipsy guy” & so many others at that time those artists didn’t last. I guarantee you can’t name 5 of her songs & her album sales were horrible. You got to look at situations like that objectively didn’t a guy get beat up for jumping on the stage with 50? what did jay do that you actually can confirm. I advise on that you do the proper research
@@doingstuffinpublic
DMX killed his whole career by being a drug addict and not having control of his life.
Jay cancelled DMX debt at def jam.
12 million dollars.
@@AnubisConstantine
Agreed.
@@doingstuffinpublicjay didnt hurt Dmx legacy. Dmx hurt Dmx legacy. Period.
So she said a limo driver told her to get in the limo because he could get her in the party....why isn't he charged....then she said she given drinks and she got drunk and passed out, so how do you know who assaulted you, then she said she escaped ran to a gas station and called her dad which he came to pick her up, then she proceeds to tell him she just got assaulted and the dad does nothing....come on brah....what dad is going to be silent for damn near 25 years....I don't believe her story
Exactly, I need to see a follow up at a hospital. I couldn't imagine being an adult picking a child up in the middle of the night. She's traumatized and could have an STD or be pregnant.
Also, I feel parents need to do better. You should always know where a 13 year old is at and if you don't thats a problem. I've been 13 and know girls none where trying to go to the VMA after party because we couldn't.
Wayno I’m with you as far as using reason and SOUND LOGIC to think about and break down these allegations.
But bro, MAD PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO BELIEVE WHATEVER said about Black celebrities (men and women). Critical thinking is lacking. I’ll wait and see what happens fam
That's what we all should do wait for more information 😅😅😅
Through the bad days we gon keep pushing and holding our heads up 🫡
Don't know what happened 24 years. But what I do know its been 24 years. Why didn't the accusser say anything for 24 years? Can anyone come out of nowhere and make alegations that are decades old. And the accuser remains anonymous? Thats not justice
Yes. Diddy, R. Kelly, Weinstein, Epstein, Cosby, all had one thing in common. Money. They're well-known people who had a lot of push and pull. What can a non-rich person do against rich people at their heights. All of these men had victims come out years later. They're mogul (sans Kelly), with power and wealth. Most people don't have. It's scary, and they see how people respond to go up against rich people. Its scary.
Where is the friend and father to validate her claims? I believe in facts and evidence. It will be on both parties to prove or disprove…IMO
Wayno..
Thank you for making content that is geared to uplifting us as a whole!
You’re welcome 🙌🏾
Man am I tripping or was Hov known for wanting to be away from ppl who were turnt up? Sure he's with puff in photos, events, afterparties. But that is business. Even popping bottles. Image, lifestyle - thats business. Once the cameras go away how much tolerance did Jay ever have for puff... let alone willingness to do heinous shit with Puff? An accusation that Jay engaged in some misconduct alone... that's one thing.... but WITH PUFF? That alone doesn't sound right - but maybe my impression is off.
You’re spot on.
Ppl can separate business from nonsense.
U think the way puff treated biggie that Jay would be his friend?
It was business, and he steps away on the personal sh…
There may be photos, but I have never seen jays kids interacting with puffs kids at all.
People always say they dont believe the Drake stuff, but never say how they feel about all the suspect activity he partook in, in public 😂
Kendrick didn't lie, he exaggerated 😂
He lied. Calling someone a pedo I’d not a “oops, my bad” that’s a permanent stain that can forever haunt or taint someone.
@TheKidwonda he said he likes them young, and he seems to lol. Maybe not of illegal age, but barely legal lol so calling him a pdf would be an exaggeration lol
@@TheKidwonda He called Kendrick a wife beater, he got what he asked for
@@uncannygold he never said that, you literally just made that up which is even more disgusting. Something wrong with yall out here just putting that on people’s jacket. Its funny because most of Drake’s dating history is him dating his age bracket or even older
@@TheKidwonda "Say Drake, I hear you like em young." Learn to pay attention lol
Thank you for using your CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS!!
People want there to be dirt on jay-z so bad that they want to jump on anything without using proper judgement.
At a time like this, where anyone can “report” on things because they have a mic and camera, people can say anything these days unfortunately. Regardless if he’s innocent or not, the rumor mill is big business and that’s all that matters to people.
It’s so sad that social media has people not using critical thinking and common sense on their judgement of said stated facts!! Then they’re condemning the ones who use it and make perfect sense of it. Smh Keep doing your thing Wayno and thanks for being an individual with your own thoughts!!
Thank you for this comment. I feel like sometimes I sound like a Diddy apologist and while I think he’s a piece of crap, some of these claims are pretty outlandish. Including the baby oil being laced 🤷🏾♀️. Let’s be serious. People saw that video and you can tell somebody that Diddy met them on the moon and hurt them and everyone would believe it.
It just doesn’t add up to me! 13yrs old but her dad didn’t press charges? Come on folks use your head!
To possibly win a civil suits you don't need any evidence just the possibility and the opportunity that the event could've happened. This is why the case isn't filed at a criminal case for that you need hard evidence. This so called victim´s story is hard to believe. Then again we are still living in a world where stories are made up every day and there is always going to be someone who will believer them. Its always guilty until you prove your nonsense.
I remember TI pullin up to Flip’s hood😂 wild times lol
Got his jaw tapped in the process lol
Keep up the good work boss!
Love the channel.
Yo, keep pushing Wayno. Been following you since your days on Everyday Struggle 💪
I appreciate that
My thing is if she’s 13 at the time, how old was her friend because I’m assuming if she was 13 her Friend got to be 13 or at least 14 because I don’t see a 17, 18 or even a 20 year old being friends with a 13-year-old so how old was her friend that drop her off at the VMA?
Thank you for using your critical thinking skills as well.
I’m not a Jay Z fan but this story is nonsensical.. 🤨
@2:42 well you tell us yourself that you are not really looking at this objectively, which is what the courts are for. I know you came up with Roc-a-fella, but you’re selling your speculation as fact, that’s in bad faith and a misuse of your influence
Facts!
If Jay z was a nobody he wouldn't he defending him so hard
Wayno Someone told me that Foxy signed an NDA when I stated that Kurupt was in a relationship with Foxy. People don't research or look at timelines and are celebrity-obsessed no matter if they love or hate the celebrity.
“When does the lies end? When does the truth begin? when does reality set in, or does it not matter?”
If it came out that there are real victims of Jay out there I wouldn’t be surprised.. but the facts about this specific case aren’t really aligning for me. I’m seeing too many holes in this story.. but I guess time will tell
I rock with you! I enjoy hearing your POV regardless if I agree or not. It's nice to hear other people's perspective on these topics. Keep grinding! 💯💜
"nobody goes 365/365." damn wayno, simple bar but made me feel a little better about how things been going. you right. shout out to you.
Whatever is going on is gon get better bro trust
10:38 There’s video proof of Rihanna on the Tyra show talking about how Jay-Z kept her in a room to sign a contract (AT 16!!!). You can find it on UA-cam. She states “he told me there are 2 ways out that room - through the door with the contract signed or out the window and we’re on the 26th floor.”
If that can happen at 16 - who knows what else.
I think for EVERYONE’S sake, we should leave this at “We Do not know” because we really don’t. Seemingly good people can do heinous things and there are people who will lie out there for a bag.
We really don’t know how this will play out and should leave it at that, in my opinion.
Drake and Nicky fans cheering this on because of the Super Bowl is super corny to me
So glad this year is almost over. It's been a crazy year for me.
Who wouldn't want to know who is accusing them of some heinous sht? It's Jay's Constitutional right to defend himself.
This really shows me people want to see Jay Z fall. I don’t even know why he’s so hated by the public. He may have finessed some of his business partners but that’s the game.
Thank you for talking about this sensibly. Much respect!
Learning the details of how he was saying he has survivors behind him then how the case is put together- it reminded me of Mamamax. If these are lies, then the lawyer is doing more danger for the victims he represent and actual victims might have harder time fighting justice.
Running pockets is a thing! People act like extortion isn't a thing.
Can’t wait til this all over so we can get a new jay z album “555”
So. I’m Confused. DO WE Believe WOMAN or NOT ? Or do we pick an choose based on who it is ???
Nah we pick and choose based on evidence and testimony, ain’t nobody just believing a woman just because she’s a woman. Because everybody lies. 🤷🏾♂️
WELP. I have several questions.
It’s funny how that girl could be inconsistent in her stories but when Meg thee stallion got shot everybody believed torey lames
Thanks for this breakdown.
Thank you, Wayno.
Agree💯with you Wayno
God is the Only Judge That Matters
To piggyback on a 13 year old signing a NDA is impossible. A can’t sign an agreement without her parent’s permission.
So why would anyone give her a NDA to sign if they were aware of her age.
This whole shit is a money grab
Wayno said Hov lied about showing Nas a tek but LARGE PROFESSOR said it was true lmaooo.Drew Barrymore was definitely under age in clubs drinking with grown ups Google her
Her lies dont add up
You’re speaking facts sir.
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Yea, if you go detail by detail regarding this specific case, you have to suspend mad disbelief in order to believe any of it
Where do you see the specific times in the lawsuit? I don’t see any actual times being mentioned but you are right she said from the VMAS to the house was 20 minutes you would have to look at the geography to see if there is a house like that from the VMAS .
I appreciate your work Wayno, but I'm not putting it past anyone. I'm going to wait and see for more evidence and let that speak.
This case will keep going on for Years but there will be more shit that will stick to jay z.Beyonce gonna keep her distance.Its not gonna look good for Jay,stop protecting his name ,he's done
Wayno Shawn Caught-Her is probably guilty! The fact that you cannot accept that is deplorable! Boule or For the Goat
Oh yeah?
@ All of the signs have been there! Good job on making an honest living though. Although I have outgrown this genre of music. This music is a tool to build or destroy! It’s been used as tool to destroy and the rituals to control the airwaves are of the Prince of Darkness. I appreciate you commenting and the respectful response
I see Jay Z team of defenders going hard in the paint. Alot of people gonna look crazy if any of this ends up being true
And so are the people that believe anything they read or hear online. Confirmation bias already has people declaring Jay guilty. You didnt even watch the video before you commented lol
People just want see his down fall especially a lot of black women's the sad part
@@SolidSnake240we live in a society now where people can just wake up and throw anything on your name. And people will just run with it. They need no proof when accused. But want proof for their innocence. Ass backwards. Same people that claim they are so intelligent and have critical thinking skills.
That angle has always been weird to me. The people aint the judge, jury, or God. So they shouldnt be looked at a certain way. Everybody has the right to be wrong, u shouldnt be condemned for it
@@SolidSnake240idk. They don't operate by the same rules...
If Jay z does turn out to be a PDF then he's right. Every channel that defended him will suffer some sort of loss
If it turns out that Jay z is innocent everyone running his name through the mud will just act like it never happened and nobody will care.
The asymmetry is crazy.
This case obviously bogus but no rappers from the 90s is safe this the first of many accusers to come forward
I'd be TERRIFIED for my life for them to know which victim it is...especially after what they did to his mistress 😢
After some research if the girl was picked up at midnight and drove to Jersey there are plenty of mansions within that 20 minute drive 6:12
Society over correcting. Now we need to believe every woman and every claim without evidence.
I don't believe it. I don't understand why people can't use their own thinking skills.
These eps got the same vibes of the ig lives from the whip a few years back 🔥🙌🏿
You was tuned in
Good video cuzzo, 💯💪🏾🤙🏾
Makes no sense
There’s a lawyer from Brooklyn on this platform that wipes this guy and his caping for Jayz, this is just embarrassing to be running this level of interference for a guy that ain’t paying your bills
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Oh yeah?
@ lmaoooooooooooo yeah
Thank you, Wayno! For using discernment and showing us you have common sense because the comments I’ve seen on social media are always conspiracy theorists rhetoric
The fucked up part is some of these people will be in the room with them and they don’t do anything but just cuz they are there at the same time that’s just enough for people to believe it
dame did speak about hov talking to aaliyah first but she was feeling dame more or something like that
Must be my era cause i was asking similar questions, and i got no love for J.
What 13 yr old gets dropped off by a gf to the vmas to try to get in but goes to the limos, the limo drovers not trying tp get in, and the friend has to be 15 or 16 at a min at the time, skipping all the bs in the middle, she escaped to a convenience store and called her dad, no body tracked down the employee? What's the dad's version of the events? No chance in hell my daughter call me to get her in the middle of the might from some random place, looking like a hot mess and i dont ask questions or knock a couple of heads, even if this is true the holes are glaring
Time reveals all
Remember when T.I and his wife had gang accusations every other week? What happened to that? And Trey Songs can’t start a new year without a case that disappears as soon as it happens.. shits weird!
Amazing how everyone sticks up for jay but take every one else to hell
We know Jay Z is his hero he is not going to be bias 😂
Bro, you in Atlanta. I’m in Atlanta. We NEED to link and talk hip hop. I’d love to be a guest. I can’t believe you just mentioned the Lil vs TI beef. THEY DONT KNOW 😭
“FLIP! Bring yo punk ahh to the stageeeee! Has anyone seen Lil Flip lately??” 😭😭😭😂😂😂
Don’t get me started on the Down With The King mixtape where TIP was calling around getting receipts from REAL Houston Gs in between SCATHING diss tracks all through the tape 😂😂😂
Dame said jigga wanted Aaliyah and was jealous when Dame got her over him
I'm from South Carolina and that East Coast West Shit spread down here. I got g checked at recess about whether I like Bad Boy or Death Row 😂
My question is, if this was NJ with a U shaped driveway where she eventually fled from, how did she mess around and just run to a gas station? The neighborhoods with mansions don’t just have a gas station down the block from a multi million dollar property. And when her father picked her up, did he not want to call the police of go back to house after seeing his daughter disheveled wearing a towel? Make it make sense
It’s ALWAYS us that does this to us too🤦🏾♀️We will cheer for an artist & support them on their way up, watch them work hard to EARN their success & money then we’ll be the first ones to claim they’re in some Illuminati or sold their souls even tho we watched them work to get where they are….idk if it’s bcuz they don’t understand how a celebrity can have all that they don’t have or what, but it’s getting weirder & weirder by the day😔 Idk what happened in the Jay situation, but like he said…why not file a criminal charge bcuz what he’s being accused of is so heinous?? AND we’re supposed to just believe that this young girl had to fight her way out the room and was so distraught that when he dad picked her up he didn’t take her to the police or at least the hospital?? He should be fighting it, but of course some just want him to be guilty with no proof bcuz he was cool with Diddy😔
Dame did say in an interview that Jay was courting aaliyah. He said she chose Dame & Jay got mad.
What 13 year old knows her drink was spiked unless she was a regular drinker at that age, something seems off
Jay has never shown himself to be an evil person. People only go after him because of his net worth. They wanna make him into another Diddy but it won’t work
A lot of y’all Drake fans in these comments are really slow if you think jayz is guilty.. Drake needs to be next it’s only a matter of time
They're very bitter and refuse to acknowledge that Drake is in the position he's in because he got washed! Not because he was accused of being a pedo.
Wayno shows a lot of integrity with his takes.
I actually feel like he’s been way too biased towards Jay.
Nas already exposed Hov. Whiskers like a rat
@ …and evidently you’re a Hov hater who looks like a person who is what they’re accusing Jay of being.
@@barretogods7178 wtf? 🤣
@@barretogods7178 Hov hater is that the new anti-Semite? 🤣 don’t be so sensitive your GOAT is a devil worshipping monster
Hov got a weird case why is he around?
Lame
@@chi.princessthey prob a 9 year old on their way to school on their iPad using their mommas hotspot… ignore them
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Bruh. Come on. Quit glazing Jay. He has a looooooong history of being a pervert and predator. Check out Jonathan Hay. That’s all I got to say. Disappointed in you bro.
@@mrshs4332 I’m not, this was expected… wayno worships jay
Does logic escape the two of you?
I’m not a Jay Z fan but the story is nonsensical
@@coryjackson6944 I’m not even talking about this case in particular. Jay Z was running with R Kelly and Diddy. What does that tell you? How old was Beyoncé when he first was with her? Y’all denying the Foxy Brown thing but I’m not slow…come on. Also he was with Rihanna when she was underage as well. Look up Jonathan Hay if you think it’s 🧢
Wayno Dame has said that Jay started hating once Dame got with Aaliyah. He’s brought up the story a handful of times. Jay never had Aaliyah but that’s why he was hating and took her out.
Everyone should wait for more details before they eat crow like diddy
TI got me to flip on Flip 😅
respectfully do you just get out of bed and start recording?
The teck part was real and confirm on Matt show
Thanks for not finding someone guilty before the real evidence. Not many people on youtube are using critical thinking, just he's guilty without much information.
8:08 ngl that R Kelly album and tour after the piss tape dropped is suss tho 😂
FACTS
Hey, once i heard he did a collab album with r kelly, anything was possible (kevin Garnett scream)
Nah bro I’m tired of it too, I want to interject my opinions on people commenting on this not even from nyc but I hold my reservations