@@macattack6054 I didn't say they wouldn't work I said just because u have 2 of the best players dosent mean ur guaranteed a win if that was the case those heat teams woulda won every year
@@macattack6054 if we doing that kd best midrange scorer ever imo Luka literally unguardable pg we all know what pg does then giannis one of the most dominat players on both sides of the ball them back2 back mvp jokic who can stretch the floor and facilitate like bron
@@SixthManShow I saw your episode with Kenny I left 3 comments on his video with yall but I'm ecstatic to see yall colab with ttw like this. No wait Scratch that idea the sixth man show + ttw + pick a side = 🐐 pod
As pick a side’s 1 fan, i’d like to appreciate Joel and Riv who even at 100 subs made me feel like i was apart of the PAS community. 200 episode not that far off from 30k subscribers and it’s not any different. Love y’all 🫶🏽💯
See this what separates y’all from a lot of people. Love this shit. Perfect personalities that fit together. And y’all linked with the goats. Love y’all man 💯
I feel like the main argument for Pick a Side lineup was the perimeter defense and yes Lebron and Kawhi have good 3pt% and can knock it down but you're not asking them to prioritize the threes like P said you don't really want Kawhi taking 8 threes like that same can be said for Lebron. So I gotta go with TTW lineup on this one.
As I stated plenty of times, Through the Wire and Pick a Side are the best two NBA basketball podcasts out there for true/real NBA basketball heads. The structure and debates and the amount of legitimate knowledge from both shows is by far the best out there.
If I was Through The Wire I would take Jimmy Butler and slide Giannis at center cause we know damn well that Giannis can guard Embiid and now you have Butler and PG guarding the perimeter
I like how everyone laughed when Joel said RJs game winner turned the celtics season around but Tatum was literally asked that question after the celtics won the ECF, and Tatum said his toughest moment was blowing that 25 pt lead in MSG and the RJ game winner over him. So dude basically endorsed Joel's opinion months ago 😂
I don’t think having Toronto as an honorable mention for the Top 5 starting lineup is that crazy. GTJ, OG & Scottie are all young enough to expect them to be better next year, with Rookie of the Year Scottie going in to his second year and OG and GTJ have steady improved every year of their career so far. Fred is an All-Star and Siakam is All-NBA. Fred an elite defender for his size too and a top 5 shooter in the league, Siakam was averaging like 27 for the last month of the season Only starting lineup to have all 5 players average 15pts or more last season if I remember right I think their ceiling was more so related to their lack of bench depth and spacing (the latter of which Toronto is known to develop non shooters to at least decent), not the potency of the starting lineup
@@ITSMINECRAFTTIME32 Fred’s numbers went down because he was playing bad after he got injured roughly around the All-Star break. Just looked up his stats he was shooting 40% from 3 pre All-Star shooting 10 3s a game.shooting 47% on catch and shoot (finished the season 43%), Finished the season with like the 3rd most 3s made. If you still don’t wanna put him Top 5 that’s cool, elite shooter nonetheless in my opinion
@iiivmmi I think OG, GTJ & Scottie is better than Kuzma, Avdija & Morris. You can maybe argue the rankings between Toronto’s 2 All-Stars and Washington’s 2 All-Stars, but I think Toronto’s other 3 players in the starting 5 clear Washington’s personally
@iiivmmi Bro what? You’re cracked dude. You mention 2 all star calibre players. FVV was all star last year and Siakam has been an all star and was all nba last year. Scottie was ROTY and id all star calibre. OG a better defender than Deni, in fact every raps starter is a better defender than the wizards best defender
Absolutely. Raps were a 5 seed with one of the worst benches in the league. Took sixers to 6 games despite Fred missing time, Scottie missing time, GTJ being sick. That was with healthy Embiid unlike when the sixers played the celtics. I don’t think they’re top 5 but prob top 7 or 8. If Scottie takes a jump they could be even higher
Pick a side wins imo because TTW has Luka and jokic which are both defensive liabilities. Pick a side has Steph which is their only defensive liability
Pick a side easily won. All their players are best utilized off ball, but are coincidently some of the best on ball players on in the league. Through the wire have the better team in terms of star power, but damn they all need the ball.
Also, we know Tatum locking up KD, and I'd put Kawhi on Luka and let Steph do his best against pg13. Also, Embiid and LeBron will feast on jokic in the interior.
Through the wire lost this one. If they plan on having Jokic at the top of the key facilitating then all Luka will be doing is watching with no off ball movement he's best utilized on ball. Same can be said about Giannis who is best utilized on ball attacking the paint and passing out to spot up shooters, without the ball in hand they can sag off of Giannis to help protect the paint since Giannis isn't a good shooter. They just have to many players that are best utilized on ball.
I'm taking pick a side in the draft. Better defense overall only weak link is Steph and its not like he is even that bad on defense he has improved. Also, they have much better 3 pt. shooters and Steph's off ball movement is gonna kill Luka.
TTW starting 5 claps pick a side. They talk about Lebron like he’s still a good defender when he’s not, they got Tatum Kawhi and Embiid who aren’t clamping up Jokic n Giannis. Then they got Luka in that as well with KD, yea TTW peppers them
JT over Jimmy butler is craaazy saying he could play make lmfaoo did yah watch the playoffs boy was a turnover MACHINE why yah think they traded for brogdon
Bro i just walked into the best crossing of universes, its too tough because Pick a Side got a good defensive unit but that lebron pick messed them up bro, i gotta go with the TTW squad like P said Embiid is getting wrote out of that game💀
Love the collab Im picking Pick a Side. They have zero answer for Steph defensively. Youre going to have to double team him with PG and Luka. Spacing is unlocked, Lebron, Embiid, and Kawhi are eating in that situation OR Steph scores 50. pick your poison.
Boys keep acting like Lebron is still like that on defence lol “we got lebron on defence” mannn last 5 years lebron has been bottom tier on the defensive side of the ball
THROUGH THE WIRRRRREEEE.
Their lineup washes I’m not gonna lie. P knows how to prove a point bruh😂😭
Naw lebron and curry clears any other team
@@macattack6054 thats just not how basketball works
@@Spotup.j_quan yeah the 2nd best player of all time and the best shooter all of time wouldn’t work.. you’re right.
@@macattack6054 I didn't say they wouldn't work I said just because u have 2 of the best players dosent mean ur guaranteed a win if that was the case those heat teams woulda won every year
@@macattack6054 if we doing that kd best midrange scorer ever imo Luka literally unguardable pg we all know what pg does then giannis one of the most dominat players on both sides of the ball them back2 back mvp jokic who can stretch the floor and facilitate like bron
The two best podcast combined this can’t be real
I never realized it but this is the crossover we needed
Holy fuck
Facts 🔥
What a time to be alive y'all boys
You said the two best than where's LKIAB
Picking through a wire.😂 great ep my guys.👏🏾👏🏾✊🏾
This is what happens when you work hard and treat people the right way. Congrats fellas, nothing but up from here!📈
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Amen!!! When you guys gonna get your ttw collab?
@@lonewolf929 we lowkey had one with Kenny. We got more in the works.
@@SixthManShow I saw your episode with Kenny I left 3 comments on his video with yall but I'm ecstatic to see yall colab with ttw like this. No wait Scratch that idea the sixth man show + ttw + pick a side = 🐐 pod
@@SixthManShow yyugtpuphsygphypupupupgupupupugppyupgupupugpugupuuyypyyypyppyyppyypypypypypyypyyypypypyptypywrrtwwrtqwea
Man P’s basketball knowledge + being able to think on his feet so quick makes him a TOUGH guy to debate
Through The Wire SMASHED! Pick a Side on the starting 5 LOL, TTW where laid back with the easy W.
Lebron Kawhi AD (or JT) and Embiid locks up the league if healthy. The whole nba. Giannis, KD, Luka… they all get clamps.
If Joel ever comes to Minnesota I think he would eat free everywhere bro really be fighting for us man 😭
LFGGG Been so hyped for this episode and now I get surprised with the collab of my next favorite podcast in TTW. This going to be legendary
As pick a side’s 1 fan, i’d like to appreciate Joel and Riv who even at 100 subs made me feel like i was apart of the PAS community. 200 episode not that far off from 30k subscribers and it’s not any different. Love y’all 🫶🏽💯
Shoutout to Serg
@@rudyraygonzales Dive in deep is next
@@SergioHernandez-xv2zg we gotta earn our way like these boys 🔥
You are the best
THROUGH THE WIRE
See this what separates y’all from a lot of people. Love this shit. Perfect personalities that fit together. And y’all linked with the goats. Love y’all man 💯
The crossover we never knew we needed
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I agree 💯
Nah we knew!
Facts
I would pay for pt 2 and 3 of this
I feel like the main argument for Pick a Side lineup was the perimeter defense and yes Lebron and Kawhi have good 3pt% and can knock it down but you're not asking them to prioritize the threes like P said you don't really want Kawhi taking 8 threes like that same can be said for Lebron. So I gotta go with TTW lineup on this one.
They need to run an all star team up with these lineups on 2k
through the wire lineup is smoking pick a side line through the wire in 5😂😂
As I stated plenty of times, Through the Wire and Pick a Side are the best two NBA basketball podcasts out there for true/real NBA basketball heads. The structure and debates and the amount of legitimate knowledge from both shows is by far the best out there.
AI over D Wade is nuts P😭and Harden’s better than AI but to say AI>Wade and then Harden>AI is nuts. Great episode tho💯
If I was Through The Wire I would take Jimmy Butler and slide Giannis at center cause we know damn well that Giannis can guard Embiid and now you have Butler and PG guarding the perimeter
Riv and peewee the best of both shows having great takes lmao
Through the Wire won the draft hands down. Curry can't guard anyone.
Joker also can’t guard and is better offensively
Luka and joker the slowest people on the court with with d and kd can’t guard Lebron
bro curry a better defender than luka
@@maddox0276 curry is on the same level as luka, curry has a better team defense around him
@@Solarflare154 curry is a way better defense then luka
I like how everyone laughed when Joel said RJs game winner turned the celtics season around but Tatum was literally asked that question after the celtics won the ECF, and Tatum said his toughest moment was blowing that 25 pt lead in MSG and the RJ game winner over him. So dude basically endorsed Joel's opinion months ago 😂
Ngl Joel talked that shit about Deandre Ayton. That shit was fire
I don’t think having Toronto as an honorable mention for the Top 5 starting lineup is that crazy.
GTJ, OG & Scottie are all young enough to expect them to be better next year, with Rookie of the Year Scottie going in to his second year and OG and GTJ have steady improved every year of their career so far.
Fred is an All-Star and Siakam is All-NBA. Fred an elite defender for his size too and a top 5 shooter in the league, Siakam was averaging like 27 for the last month of the season
Only starting lineup to have all 5 players average 15pts or more last season if I remember right
I think their ceiling was more so related to their lack of bench depth and spacing (the latter of which Toronto is known to develop non shooters to at least decent), not the potency of the starting lineup
Are we really calling 38% from 3 on 10 attempts a top 5 shooter?
@@ITSMINECRAFTTIME32 Fred’s numbers went down because he was playing bad after he got injured roughly around the All-Star break. Just looked up his stats he was shooting 40% from 3 pre All-Star shooting 10 3s a game.shooting 47% on catch and shoot (finished the season 43%), Finished the season with like the 3rd most 3s made. If you still don’t wanna put him Top 5 that’s cool, elite shooter nonetheless in my opinion
@iiivmmi I think OG, GTJ & Scottie is better than Kuzma, Avdija & Morris. You can maybe argue the rankings between Toronto’s 2 All-Stars and Washington’s 2 All-Stars, but I think Toronto’s other 3 players in the starting 5 clear Washington’s personally
@iiivmmi Bro what? You’re cracked dude. You mention 2 all star calibre players. FVV was all star last year and Siakam has been an all star and was all nba last year. Scottie was ROTY and id all star calibre. OG a better defender than Deni, in fact every raps starter is a better defender than the wizards best defender
Absolutely. Raps were a 5 seed with one of the worst benches in the league. Took sixers to 6 games despite Fred missing time, Scottie missing time, GTJ being sick. That was with healthy Embiid unlike when the sixers played the celtics. I don’t think they’re top 5 but prob top 7 or 8. If Scottie takes a jump they could be even higher
Y’all should make another one this was great to watch 🤘🏽
joel you clearly said mahomes is a first ballad stop lying
Lol if they can do this once a season it would dope.
My two favourite podcasts in one episode :D
First episode watched cause of TTW, main takeaway-I don’t think this dude in the back left next the the tv watches nba basketball games
This is so awesome!! Great collab I love both podcasts so much this is really cool to see
YALL GROWIN FAST ASF
Joel funny asf bro 😂😂😂
Ttw wiped on the starting 5. Could hear ttw snickering at pick a sides lack of basketball knowledge.
1:19:54 they did exactly that
Power Rangers, Ninja Turtles crossover episode 😂
Love the novelty of having an 8-man panel, but man that was a headache. Someone needed to moderate tf outta this
Ayooo DMilly was in his bag you love to see it!!! Haha
the disrespect to the raptors..just wait. don’t hop on the train later 🫡
Pick a side wins imo because TTW has Luka and jokic which are both defensive liabilities. Pick a side has Steph which is their only defensive liability
Lol nobody plays defense
despite what everyone says Jokic isn’t a bad defender
The only reason why I got the Pick A Side team winning is cause Luka has to chase Curry around all game.
curry is getting 2 scored on him every possession no bullshit
Jokic has got to be the most disrespected superstar in league history you cant make this stuff up😭
Congrats on 200! How about that Kings bet in Vegas recently, 18k to win like 10 million to win the leauge 😂
Joel’s narrative on The New York Knicks is one of the nastiest things I’ve ever heard in my entire life
Ngl a combo pod before the start of each season would be a cool lil thing for both these pods
I think Through The Wire has a much better starting 5. Like they mentioned in the episode, mismatches everywhere.
I like pick a side lineup. Y’all not talking about Steph enough
pick a side team better
A TTW collab for 200. Y’all really know y’all demo
THROUGH THE WIIIIIIREEEEEE.. y’all team washing Pick a Side 9/10 times
“They act like two legends cannot coexist”
Keep laughing at the Raps. They're gonna surprise y'all.
First time tuning in and I’m fuckin with pick a side vibes
Pick a side easily won. All their players are best utilized off ball, but are coincidently some of the best on ball players on in the league. Through the wire have the better team in terms of star power, but damn they all need the ball.
Also, we know Tatum locking up KD, and I'd put Kawhi on Luka and let Steph do his best against pg13. Also, Embiid and LeBron will feast on jokic in the interior.
Legendary Collab, Wow 🙌🏾
Through the wire lost this one. If they plan on having Jokic at the top of the key facilitating then all Luka will be doing is watching with no off ball movement he's best utilized on ball. Same can be said about Giannis who is best utilized on ball attacking the paint and passing out to spot up shooters, without the ball in hand they can sag off of Giannis to help protect the paint since Giannis isn't a good shooter.
They just have to many players that are best utilized on ball.
For the algorithm! 💯
Pick a side won the draft
THIS LIKE THE TIMMY TURNER JIMMY NEUTRON EP😭😭😭
Young bust? James Bouknight.
I definitely thought Emmanuel mudiay was gonna be nice but he didn’t pan out
Do a 2k simulation 7 game series
P always loves to have the wild take 😂😂 but the way he argues it is so enjoyable
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Imo pick a side team won, their teams more balanced in offense and defense
GENIUS collab from all my boys let’s go
Ttw five washes I’m sorry yall
GOAT COLLAB been waiting for this since yall got P on the pod!
This basically Through the wire watching Pick a side have a conversation lol.. pick a side set up was completely wrong for the video
James Harden could come back and be All-Nba but at the end of the day there’s still a ceiling on Harden’s teams.
Love both my Fav Pods Collab, Please do this more often
The sameway Joel is a Knicks fan, I’m a nuggets fan. I need more conversation about the nuggets like y’all talk about the Knicks
this pod goated fr fr helluva collab for the boys🔥🔥🔥
I'm taking pick a side in the draft. Better defense overall only weak link is Steph and its not like he is even that bad on defense he has improved. Also, they have much better 3 pt. shooters and Steph's off ball movement is gonna kill Luka.
TTW starting 5 claps pick a side. They talk about Lebron like he’s still a good defender when he’s not, they got Tatum Kawhi and Embiid who aren’t clamping up Jokic n Giannis. Then they got Luka in that as well with KD, yea TTW peppers them
Ad can not guard giannis 😂
Greatest collab of the century 🤝
bro on the left gon be sick when keegan is the dark horse
JT over Jimmy butler is craaazy saying he could play make lmfaoo did yah watch the playoffs boy was a turnover MACHINE why yah think they traded for brogdon
Bro i just walked into the best crossing of universes, its too tough because Pick a Side got a good defensive unit but that lebron pick messed them up bro, i gotta go with the TTW squad like P said Embiid is getting wrote out of that game💀
Young Guys that I’m not high on at all are Rui Hachimura and Donovan Mitchell.
Naw pick a side starting 5 got it too much versatility
IMO Pick a side is better as a team, obviously through the wire has better players but as a team with defense, spacing, and fit Pick a Side wipes
Nah this man Joel has some of the worst takes I’ve ever heard 💀 “RJ can carry a team cuz he’s top 15 in jersey sales”😭
PICK A SIDE Starting 5 there team can't play perimeter defense
That rj Celtics shot was the biggest reach I’ve ever heard
Tatum said it was the toughest moment for them
my two fav pods linked up together this is goated :) first collab with them hope it’s not the last!
TTW folded on embiid. Giannis and him in the front court, luka ball handling with pg and kd on the wings? Stop it
Love the collab
Im picking Pick a Side. They have zero answer for Steph defensively. Youre going to have to double team him with PG and Luka. Spacing is unlocked, Lebron, Embiid, and Kawhi are eating in that situation OR Steph scores 50. pick your poison.
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Only giving dray the max only if steph and/or klay taking a pay cut to keep him if not nah
im genuinely shocked that this collab happened😭
Best collab ever
IS THIS WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO BE A MAKE A WISH KID ????
Boys keep acting like Lebron is still like that on defence lol “we got lebron on defence” mannn last 5 years lebron has been bottom tier on the defensive side of the ball
Amazing crossover I'm here for this
Chris smoove voice : IS THIS A FAKE VIDEOOO
I was looking for a free skin changer for myself, because the skin
8 person pod is crazy to think about but ts flowed .
My 2 favorite podcast collaboration?? Bet
This is the best crossover ever I watch both podcasts religiously let’s go
Need time stamps for a 2 1/2 hour pod
Best show yet 🔥🔥🔥🔥 episode 200 that’s crazy