Dominions 5 - National Overview - EA Caelum

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  • @Lancelot2000Lps
    @Lancelot2000Lps 3 роки тому +13

    Note: Harab can all make corpse Man for very cheap chaff, because caelum has no attack dense, because most are size3. And you need the corpse items but even after that those item are usable for battle!!!

    • @LucidTactics
      @LucidTactics  3 роки тому +3

      Yeah these are important points i knew but failed to cover!

    • @Lancelot2000Lps
      @Lancelot2000Lps 3 роки тому +1

      @@LucidTactics Cool. I am a big fan of you!!! Love your videos!!!

    • @TheMelnTeam
      @TheMelnTeam 3 роки тому +1

      Staff of storms and con 8 are rough to pick up, but storm spool + lightning rod already gets you 6 constructs for 1 air gem. They need a lot of buffs to be useful as more than sponges in fights, but sponging for things like freezing mist, wrathful skies etc is a useful job for caelum. Map move 18 is slower than flyers, but still not bad.
      You can make spool/rod and have native paths to summon these things as nations like EA Ermor, Fomoria, Helheim, Lanka/Yomi/Vanheim (less useful though). Any Xibalba can do it too and arguably needs it even more than Caelum.

    • @dikankan4805
      @dikankan4805 3 роки тому +1

      Yes, once fog warriors is available, corpse constructs can hang in there pretty well.

  • @hieron9366
    @hieron9366 3 роки тому +10

    "Take a D2 guy and empower him in fire" is actually lore-friendly, that's basically what happened in the story and caused Raptors to be exiled.
    Also - I've played a lot of EA Caelum in Dom4, and Man-Eater was one of my go-to options. Supercharging expansion, being able to heal his affliction if need be, Earthquake for big fights, E boosters... great pretender for a nation.

  • @Mewobiba
    @Mewobiba 3 роки тому +24

    Note: Flaming Arrows does not work on ice weapons, including frost bows. It's one of those niche special rules.

    • @LucidTactics
      @LucidTactics  3 роки тому +9

      heh didnt know that!

    • @Mewobiba
      @Mewobiba 3 роки тому +6

      @@sombrewarhammer No, most magic ranged attacks work. There's two limitations on flaming arrows:
      1. Innate ranged attacks like mind blast don't work.
      2. Ice weapons don't work.
      Other magical weapons are fine, from Sleeper Javelin of Flight to a forged Black Bow of Botulf.

    • @righteousindecision2778
      @righteousindecision2778 3 роки тому +1

      @@Mewobiba As an alternative - Kavi Archers use normal shortbows. They also have storm immunity, (shock resist 8) and storm power (2), so fire arrows in a storm maybe? They seemed well-designed for shooting in a storm...

  • @xeroprotagonist
    @xeroprotagonist 3 роки тому +12

    IMO EA Caelum heavily encourages you to choose between the good or evil path rather than trying to do both, which fits with the whole Zoroastrian theme of the nation, you have to choose which cap-only sacreds you make and which paths of magic/summons you go for, and you should probably choose in pretender design because each path fits better with certain scales. The Airya/Yazad side, which is more defensive, AW magic and dom-spread focused, has a different playstyle from the more aggressive Raptor/Daeva side which has the raiders, seducers, and demons with chaos power. Rolling the dice for a 25% chance at 40 D gems a pop to get the Daeva of Shooting Stars at Conj 6 probably isn't something to plan around if your strategy involves summoning Yazads, you need to either pick a path with your pretender, or choose whether you're going to alchemize gems to empower an Eagle King in S or become a dirty fire polluter and empower a D random Harab Seraph in F.

  • @righteousindecision2778
    @righteousindecision2778 3 роки тому +3

    "Ain't nobody got time..." - No time for Jahi? They can be... captivating. In so many ways.

  • @veliqnespa
    @veliqnespa 2 роки тому +4

    The Blizzard Warrior's frost bows do their frozen fatigue damage on hit, not damage. I've used squads of them to deal with Melqarts and other large threats that I need to subdue. Eventually, once sleeping, everything is easier to deal with.

  • @yamcider6930
    @yamcider6930 11 місяців тому

    Just started my first ever game of Dominions MP today. Decided to play Caelum because of this guide. Thank you!

    • @LucidTactics
      @LucidTactics  11 місяців тому +1

      My real measure of success with this channel! Let me know when you pull off your first W

  • @mohreb9069
    @mohreb9069 3 роки тому +21

    Does contering elephants makes them irelephant?

    • @battlemode
      @battlemode 3 роки тому +3

      That has made my day

    • @_Jay_Maker_
      @_Jay_Maker_ Рік тому

      _audible groan from the audience_

  • @TheMelnTeam
    @TheMelnTeam 3 роки тому +2

    "First flying nation I've covered"
    I could see why you'd want to forget the NAP breaking elf maneuver in the EA Xibalba game :D!
    If you need something that's prot-stacking dead you can sometimes get that job done with a summoned bane fluffed with quickness/strength (even earth might will work for that kind of fluff). Hits very hard even w/o gear when fluffed, but throwing on a GSS or strength boots etc might be worth. These are on your path to elementals so they'll be an option.
    Too bad harab seraphs don't have F random like they do in LA, with those is it a lot easier to get the national summons going since you get the F/D booster crosspath. Without that you just pay the tax of empowering one of your D2 randoms in fire, hand it skull staff and fire booster it forges and then it can summon yatas.
    In an LA game I actually took a green dragon just for fun, but it wound up doing a ton of work (killing a bronze colossus, taking province/turn in expansion, murdering a few hundred Agarthan troops not built for PR with dragon gas across a couple fights). IMO the astral break + fast research is probably better though.

  • @Theeater126
    @Theeater126 15 днів тому

    So, it's a bit of a minor bonus for Caelum, but their normal chaff units are really strong on charge for initial combat. Charge bonus is usually on cavalry with lances, but all the lance units in Caelum have it.
    On top of this, the charge bonus for normal units is Size + 1/4 of your combat speed. Very strong for cavalry but not so much for slow and smaller human units. Flying units get a charge differently, calculated by 2x the Size of the unit, which is just a flat +6 damage to the first attack of every size 3 Caelum lance unit ( Not a lot but allows the Caelum to hit a bit harder than they normally would).
    Then, just to add a little extra on top, Flying units are completely immune to the charge bonus of any none flying unit. This allows them to trade into cavalry far more favorably then normal units. Well, at least as much as their stats allow anyways.

  • @vinsinar3887
    @vinsinar3887 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks Lucid great video. Of course now I need to go and attack the Caelum player in my new game before they see this. It would seem if played well they can be worse than elves.

  • @dikankan4805
    @dikankan4805 3 роки тому

    Huge thanks for a video on these guys, who are becoming my favourite nation. Love the bit @ 17:52 when you discover pillaging, which is a widely overlooked (like by me) extra tool in the arsenal. On the question of scales I noticed you tended to default to drop luck and boost growth when you were looking at possible pretenders, FWIW Caelum seems to me to be need gems enough to make Luck 3 Magic 3 a priority. It's an extreme case, but if you had only 5 points of scales there's even a case for M3, L3, C3, G0, P1, T1. Can't wait for a whole series when you play Caelum!

  • @zorrozalai
    @zorrozalai 3 роки тому +3

    This eagle king thugging is interesting. I have done something similar with EA Agartha and earth readers. They can get full plate armor + helmet + ironskin + bracers to go 33 protection, and it can be pushed to 36 with summon earthpower + legions of steel. Combine it with an indie astral mage to buff them with body ethereal, or a jade sorceress to give them moss body.
    The fire randoms are especially useful with their fire shield. Plus they carry your bless. They are also cheaper, but they can't do cloud trapeze or shockwave. :)

    • @battlemode
      @battlemode 3 роки тому

      They still can't hit the side of a barn though.

    • @zorrozalai
      @zorrozalai 3 роки тому

      @@battlemode Their fire shield can burn ~ 20 barbarians, while they hit 10 with an attack + blood surge bless, and the other 30 will run. Combined with body ethereal & moss body buff, they can wipe out weaker thrones. I have tried it with 3 thrones, and conquered 2 of them. At the 3rd one it has killed/routed 120 unit out of 130, before running away.
      Also, you can improve the situation by giving them a stinger (Attack +2, AP damage), or a burning pearl(attack+4). With an attack bless + blood surge + burning pearl + stinger + 1 experience star, they are at 18 attack 19 AP magical piercing damage, wich is respectable.

  • @halbronco7690
    @halbronco7690 3 роки тому +2

    The national heroes for Caelum are so good too, if you do a playthrough I hope you get some

  • @toll173
    @toll173 3 роки тому +5

    Another cool tool is point buffing Air Eles with a squad of 3 mages. 1 summoner 1 quickness 1 iron warrior.
    It saves Air gems for the cost of 1 water gem per squad.
    With alt 7 it could be upgraded with quickening and marble warriors. So you need less point buffer and put more summoners in the battle.

  • @FlawdaFootball
    @FlawdaFootball 3 роки тому +2

    I hope Lucid also does a guide on LA Caelum. That iteration of the culture seems to have the least information out there. I've tried them and I can't quite understand how they are meant to be played. They feel like a LA Man hybrid with those non-flying but sacred heavy crossbows and archers. Yet they still have some of the same EA fliers with unchanged gear or stats. I tried playing them in the traditional flyer way and ignored the sacreds entirely, but I got wrecked during expansion both times. Spire horns just don't hold up against many LA indies.

  • @toll173
    @toll173 3 роки тому +5

    With Wh mod you get a S3 multi hero. Its another option to break into high astral.

    • @ClubbingSealCub
      @ClubbingSealCub 3 роки тому +1

      Yep, and an E3H3 hero, which is insanely good.

    • @ClubbingSealCub
      @ClubbingSealCub 3 роки тому +1

      @ThoughtCrime WH is common enough that it might be

  • @ClubbingSealCub
    @ClubbingSealCub 3 роки тому +6

    Isn't a fear helmet incredible for an eagle king? They have awe and the D2 harabs can craft it.

  • @wintermath3173
    @wintermath3173 3 роки тому +1

    You didn't take the time to trash talk the Azi!

  • @TheAleatoriorandom
    @TheAleatoriorandom 3 роки тому

    Nice!

  • @throeawae2130
    @throeawae2130 3 роки тому +2

    16:43 LOLLLL

  • @Ragatokk
    @Ragatokk 3 роки тому +1

    Flaming arrows does not work with the frost bow archers.

  • @ClubbingSealCub
    @ClubbingSealCub 3 роки тому

    Also, the summons are caelum's 'free magic diversity' ticket, but ideally you should be throne rushing long before that so I would only plan for it in long games.

  • @NoobsofFredo
    @NoobsofFredo 2 роки тому

    I know I'm a few months late to the party, but I have a Caelum pretender saved in my back pocket just in case I ever find myself needing to take a shit on someone like me who likes making Niefel Jarls as their main mid-late game powerhouses.

  • @RareCondition
    @RareCondition 3 роки тому +1

    Is there any scripting trick to get flying battlemage commanders into close combat casting spells at the end of their script?

    • @LucidTactics
      @LucidTactics  3 роки тому

      just advance and cast spells i think - so not that i know of.

    • @shinemoon4673
      @shinemoon4673 3 роки тому +1

      Empower in astral and cast blink