Is Solo Farming Better than P8 Chaos for Godly Drops? For Average Joe - Diablo 2 Resurrected
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Solo farm because people have no chill is always my go to.
Joining a game with people/ they freak out cuz you dont help them lol.
Create a free gear game and just go farm. I've gotten less crap from people doing that then joining random games.
@@jeffder7143and actually drop unwanted loot in town, because it's great for helping newbs
@@jeffder7143 What's a free gear game?
@@jeffder7143 if you do this without giving free to people coming you're a f*ckin selfish ass**le mf. Making losing Time and deceiving people that may be in need just to have a powerfarm for yourself.
I played with my grandpa from 5 years old to 18. We shared drops, and helped each other with everything. I've never really enjoyed playing with anybody else.
This is the most wholesome comment I'll probably read all year on YT.
Thats amazing😊
Thanks for this. I'm no longer a teenager grinding through this game sometimes up to 10 hours a day. Sometimes I only have 30 minutes to just play carefree while the kids are sleeping at night.
Yup. Adult life, no time for games =/
Solo offline is where it’s at phill.
mods ftw
This kind of pragmatic advice is a breath of fresh air
it would be it was right but it's not
Your very first opening sequence is the reason I don't play D4. I don't want to hop on and grind ~45+ mins to feel like I barely did anything. It's why I almost always solo D2R and just spend 20-30 mins here and there to do things. Eg. this morning I was target finding Andy for a Shako for a new Lightning Sorc I'm making and found it in ~15 mins so goal was already done. Found a bunch of other items while doing that too. It's soo much more satisfying for people who don't have big blocks of free time.
How much mf do you have?
@@kelseylantz1989 It varies, I'd say 450ish but if I'm just target finding easy bosses like meph and andy, I can go a little over 500 in sub min runs by wearing a skullders.
@@kelseylantz1989Are you looking for something in particular? Or were you just curious my MF strats? I just find this the easiest way to gear chars. Light sorc is fully built besides arachs but I'd have to wait for a TZ to grind that and THAT is the time waster lol.
@Timmycoo just curious of you stats and strats. Are you playing offline or online?
@@kelseylantz1989Online sorry for being so vague lol
I lost my patience 2 days into the ladder and just went back to single player and I'm glad I did because I found my first soj and a couple sur runes recently
Best part of Solo is when a Ber drops you get it 100 percent of the time instead of 5%
or zero amount of the time with the console auto-pickup hacks.
sorc bots with telekinesis pick up all uniques instantly
been that way for years
@@zarthemad8386how does that work if telekinesis on picks up scrolls, potions, keys, gold, bolts and arrows?
@@zarthemad8386someone is clueless lmao
@@zarthemad8386 i dont think so :D
This is why I play offline SP. And you can adjust players setting whenever you want.
All I do is solo farm. Found some crazy shit, including an eth reaper's toll, sooo many high runes, and a Griffon's Eye after about 3800 solo Pindle runs. And yes, I track all these runs and screenshot and document them in folders. All solo. If they aren't solo, I don't count the run towards the counter. 5000 Pindle runs now, 1000 Chaos Sanctuary, 100 Baal runs, 397 Trav runs, 50 Pit runs, and 23 Stony Tomb runs so far.
How do you track?
@@namenullvoidfrom self exhaustion
The only reason I join a group game online is for XP, people are so fast at picking its almost suspicious lol. If I'm looking for drops its P1 all the way! Trouble for me with split farms is the timing... Games are either too fast/slow, it never seems just right.
I'm paranoid people are running programs that auto pick up stuff lol. And I'm on ps5 😂
I know for a fact auto picker scripts existed at old school d2lod
I prefer solo play online. I can stop wherever I want and it is more chill for me. Also nobody can pick item faster than me. When I need trade something or play in group I can always make public game.
i opened up D2R yesterday for the first time in almost a year. immediately did offline to have fun and not worry about online stuff. little did i know that all my previous characters were all online. my first offline character since the OG D2. hahah
Awesome video Sweet Phil!!!
I love playing D2R solo, you can also define your own pace on the grind, without people rushing through and the game feeling like all mess
The "Rabenfrost" is the german version and it was really funny hearing you say that in this confused way 😂
Every once in a while, my mouse happens to be in exactly the right spot to click an item as soon as the text box appears without having to move, and I was already clicking as my mouse covered it, and the item drop animation still shows the item in the air, and I get a scroll of town portal or something...
Nothing is fast enough when the other players are using grab macros though
It's not macro's, it's a third party program called 'pickit'.
@@BGG15 Fair enough. I'm a bit out of date with the current stuff
Aldurs boots is one of the most underrated items
I am too slow to pick up items. That is why for items I farm alone and for XP with others.
sorc bots with telekinesis pick up all uniques instantly
been that way for years
@zarthemad8386 telekenesis only picks up scrolls, pots, gold
Can't beat a bot
Make a Find Item Barbarian and go into Chaos runs. Follow the pack and just hork the corpses. Profit.
same for cow level
i bet you can gear an entire char without actually fighting a single monster. just by horking through "depleted" cow runs.
i got a zod yesterday runing tower by my own. actuallly a good dad's day.
I think you will find that the silent majority do just play online Solo mostly for farming gear. If you are grinding levels though, you would be playing in P8 parties.
Definitely great advice man this is me and how I go about it when I get on to play with others it's just to play
I will add to that hypothesis Phil. The most important factor in obtaining items in the game solo is Speed. Not Magic find and especially when considering Rune farming since magic find % has no bearing on rune drops.
So for example Travincal. If you can pull off an average run time of about 1:00 to 1:25 seconds from screen loading to exit game you're money! That's nearly 60 runs an hour. And if all you got to spare is a couple hours a day to farm. There you go.
Player count>Speed>magic find
Amazing video, this is a very unique content, never saw anything similar.
By the way, played some time today to get some gold for crafts, and dropped a Vex, Ist and Mal, in less than 40 minutes playing on P1. Very happy with my Ice bowazon.
Hope to see more videos from you, good luck
Hey Phil, after watching this, I popped into the game - maybe had 20 min til it was time to start cooking dinner. Anyway, my wind druid had just defeated Baal yesterday - saw that Trav was terrorized - thought what the heck? Let's go.
A bone breaker sunder charm dropped!! Holy cow, that was EXACTLY what my wind druid needed. Now those ghosts and other phys immunes - I can hurt them w/ my tornadoes!
After dinner, I thought what the heck, let's do a little more. Stony Tomb was terrorized. Guillaume's Face dropped! Wow. I'm a happy player. Thx for inspiring me.
Do a vid on how to surf the terror zones maybe, when you don't know how and have bad gear and so on. This is my first ladder season. I'm learning the game and having fun. Thanks again.
Amazing info and great video. Thank you Phil!
im cringing right now, there's so many things wrong with this !
- your char is godly for pvm purposes you can EASILY make split mf games and run chaos on your own to get all the loots for yourself WHILE maxing out drops as well as experience
- even with a less expensive char you could still play to its strength and go in p3 easily (cold sorc -> ancients tunnels, fire druid -> rocky tombs...)
- who in their right mind would go in public chaos runs with inventory full of charms? it doesnt make any sense, of course you will fail at grabbing stuff
My advices ranked by priority :
- always be farming (time spent in town, looking for games, or muling crap is wasted time)
- know and play to the strenghth of your char, there are lots of ressources out there to know what farming locations are the best for your build. This advice also refers to player count, some chars excel in p1-p3 while some can run solo p8 games
- as long as you can kill quickly, ALWAYS prioritize more player count games. split mf games are best, but you can also team up with good synergy chars (support nec or foh pala + elemental char for instance)
- clear speed >>>>>>>>>>> magic find
- you don't have to clear all the mobs of a given area, most areas have like 5-6 elite packs. once it's done, just ng or change area for best exp/mf output.
- even with sticking to the advices listed above, getting a ber rune on the floor is still a matter of luck, but there are common components that will keep dropping and while you don't wanna spend too long in town, that doesn't mean you should overlook crafting stuff : that are worth a lot. packing pgms, and lower tier runes like sols and rals can litterally pay for your gear.
if you don't know how to craft properly, dont bother and sell them. At the time of this post, a Ber rune is worth betwwen 40 and 50 perf amethists on Bnet Ladder, and we're just like 3 weeks into the season.
- finally there are some gz gears (magic/rare stuffs), that are worth much more than high runes that don't look great at first glance. It takes a bit of extra commitment to know about these, so you know what to pick and identify.
Players 8 is basically players 4 if not near the other 7 players. If I remember correctly. Drop wise.
If your the type that joins a "Hell Start" game of 7 other players and farm solo.
My favorite (sarcastic) people are those who join rush games and just kill bosses solo and ruin the run (happens alot)
I'm nearly always P1 online. I put together a season plan for a Light Sorc+Barb, putting in all my target items into a spreadsheet. Just to keep me focused, because D2R just drops a shit-load of junk you're never going to care about or trade because that takes up precious time too.
Once I have my sorc up and running in Hell I'm farming terror zones or key hunting in a named/Pwd protected game. When DClone turns up I'm jumping into that game with my Barb (when he's ready) to take him down. That's a pretty good stream of annis. Eventually that Barb may take on Uber Tristram, or at least farm for an organ pack to trade.
In the meantime I'm gathering rune drops (Ral/Amn/Hel) and gem drops (especially Pamy) to trade for mostly Ists. From those Ists I trade for items to fill in the missing parts on the plan.
The light sorc can farm for all keys quite comfortably on P1. Nitilak is tricky but you can take him at range. Farming for keys seems to be a fairly good return on my time.
Light sorc is tricky when not geared well though. Next season I might plan for a Hammerdin/Smite combo and see how well that goes in the early ladder; even though I'm not likely to ever compete for top 100 let alone top 10 on a season ladder. Wish Blizzard would make it into a ranking system based on time/drops/kills within a time period instead of a race to 99.
well another thing you can do online players 3 or more mode for better drops, if your toon is set up enough to solo places at those higher player x levels.
I look for cows and baal runs that are newly listed and hop in fast before it fulls up, and quick run mephy and diablo, most of the time those are free nobody farmed em right off. sure occasionally folks run to your spots not the host listed cows or baal run, while they go to baal, i go to diablo, while they go to cows, i go to mephisto or trav - etc etc. so im not fighting who can click 1st loots fights. farm spots fast not listing on the host game, so typically folks join will go cows up front or baal and such, and leave several other good farm spots open early on.
I am using Sorc with Nova but with Crescent Moon and i dropped one day Sacred Targe Eth 45res and I earned 3 ber for this item:D
Thanks Phil for making me feel less bad about doing p1!!
I always love your videos man! So good.
8 hours of chill and thrill or 8 hours of anxiety, anger and constant dread
I always play solo except for baal runs until I can solo baal runs . This league I've dropped a Lo rune from Andariel, a Sur rune from a blood clan in a terror zone. Not much I can say about that.
When I'm online farming, I do Split MF games so I get 100% of the drops still at minimum of a P3 game, usually p5. Your solo luck was on point tho lol.
I like to join rush games with a handful of people in them then just run to other level 85 areas that don’t affect their rush and grind them out. Pits, stony, ancient tunnels. But if I’m not doing that or playing with buddies I’m just grinding solo. Only time I go into big Baal or chaos type games is to get exp. And if I get something cool along the way then sweet
same or if they are doing choas or baal I just hit trav and a few other quick spots.
@@seanmorgan8128 right. You can do pindle shenk and eldritch pretty damn quick too
I appreciate you arent ruining their rush.
absolute great content. half of your p8 experience is like;
ohhhh … rune
ooouuch someone took that
ahh missed it
thats why i play p1 for looting and p8 for leveling. keep up the great work!
I gotta admit, amazing video. Can you provide a link to the drop chance used at 14:30 would be awesome.
Been waiting for this!!!
Whats the first song playing when you found that small charm? Sounds great! Also another amazing video
That intro instantly GLUED me to the rest of the video
Nice video Phil. Thanks man
Phil I love your content I'm playing on a console and it's awful stick drift LOL I'm a player from way back LOL it's fun seeing the game again and I don't miss having to reperm my characters thanks for the video they're always fun😊
What console? I don't get any drift on my Switch pro controller.
@@IMP3TIGO xbox series s it's awful when they go bad the controllers
@@miguelmaldonado4433 I watched actman's video on microsoft/xbox's decline and that makes sense why the controllers even would have problems with it when the Japanese consoles apparently don't.
Phil what do you recommend online with friends or offline? I have maybe 1 or 2 people i play with but it’s pretty rare. I juggle between pc and consoles but consoles multiplayer is very limited.
Ngl I have been running solo on my foh tesladin and loving it
Getting items in a full pub game feels so good though. Best one I ever got was an eth reapers toll. Traded for Lo and my first grief.
Hey Phil.
We all been throwing theories of how to get better item and runes.
I got a new one im currently trying on single player:
Before i start i go to Nightmare difficulty and then to Hell.
Resets the map, yes.
But starting to think it effects the drops...I donno..Testing..
Back in D2 LOD original I ran 8 bots... they found more when in a game together than each separate game. They ran different zones, but ultimately a full clear per game.
BUT I'd take solo over p8 trying to fight for loot.
Yeah I know bad botter scum blah blah.
Before D2R I played online ladder for years. Countless Baal runs. Rarely, if ever got any of the drops. People were using a hack program called "pik it" and you had zero chance of getting any items. Haven't played online much at all with D2R. Do the hacks still exist?
Doesnt seem to exist, yet... at least not on a widely public scale. Definitely seen some suspicious snags from people who somehow grinded out level 97+ tho
sorc bots with telekinesis pick up all uniques instantly
been that way for years
@@zarthemad8386 except for the fact they made telekinesis not able to pick up items ages ago. Lol
Even is it is frustrating to find super sick drops that you could sell for lots of HR (i found recently a MA skiller +36 life, 5all res 18life sc..) it is so peaceful to play offline and enjoyable to level up and play your different characters.
When I play in public games, I do so only for experience, not for drops. As a matter of fact, I have items hidden in public games as I get frustrated seeing all the monkeys jump for a TAL rune, it is so pathetic and toxic. Another reason is that most public games are filled with BOTS which you do not stand a chance against. I play ladders, and the drops are by solo only and usually I do pretty good. For me, Public games for EXP, solo for drops. Blizzard really should have the drops exclusive for players like they do in D3 instead of having it a free for all.
I've moved to purely offline solo now (on Xbox) - I've never liked the idea of playing for hours to get something to drop, and someone else takes it while putting in zero effort! I can now P8 when I want, MF when I want, have no worries about trading or getting acammed as I play all classes and just swap finds between them. 👍 No one I know plays D2R, I have RL friends who I played D4 with but you know, D4... 😂
Anyway, none of this matters now because DD2 comes out at midnight tomorrow! 🎉😂
I absolutely agree that p1 solo farm is almost always better than p8 farming online. Elites always drop one item, regardless of the amount of players. Maximize the amount of elites you kill in high level areas per time invested and you will see more items. To do this, farm the high level areas that have the lowest health monsters that your build can farm, fx Ancient Tunnels in a2 for cold builds or the Pits in a1 for lightning builds with Infinity. The player count should not be increased unless it doesn't decrease the amount of time spent killing monsters - in other words, if your character one-shots in both p1 and p3 and doesn't notice the extra damage, increase the player count. The advantage of higher player count online is XP, not items.
That being said, I don't think an 8 hour by 8 hour comparison proves anything in d2. In fact any result-based comparison lends itself to faulty conclusions because of RNG.
I brought the 2 20 java gloves from you, loving them, cows don't
You don't want to all farm at the same place if you're doing P8. Usually you split up and get way better chance at loot
I've yoinked a few good items in p8 pub games, but I do p1 runs because the likelihood of me actually snatching the item is horrible and I'd rather take lower chances alone
Also, I don't have an inventory of skillers so p1 makes runs fast
Damn dude I play with Leviathan all the time. Didn’t know he played in your streams ✌️
I personally see more HRs in D2r when doing those public player 8 96 Terror Zones.
So I starded a Trav Gold Barb yesterday in hopes to gamble for some rare items to get the runes via trading 😂
I never played single.player...I'm gonna do that now lol.
Also for me it's discouraging playing ladder. I'm lucky to have a few hours a day or any at all and I was so late in ladder that I just didn't want to play it and non ladder has gotten boring to me for some years now. Single player actually sounds refreshing and can play on p7/p8 if I wanted to by myself and enjoy me time
i hate it so much that i cant just adjust the playercount online , theres either your zone taken already or people are way too fast or in this case the game is just dead ... for the next season il consider buying 4 more accounts
that very first conquers crown that dropped, that was mine im surprised i got it to be honest, great video phil, thanks for taking the time out to explain this in a bit more detail!
P8 games are for leveling. Its just a bonus if I get something good.
Agree
dont forget to take those Claws for Mosaic they worth alot if good rolls
Presumably if you want to hork runes you'd put just one point into Find Item to keep the MF part of the roll down?
I did solo offline p8 for years and had a character or two that were beyond maxed with all high runes. However, i felt no real sense of accomplishment due to have no relativity with other characters. Like, i had done it, i was a beast, but noone could see all my hard work
Now, i play online hardcore only. There are way less unsportman-like players as there is more sense to help eachother. Starting a new character you often get people giving useful items to help you. Yes you dont get every good item that drops but its also a longer more fulfilling journey to beating Hell and the Ubers seem an unaitanable journey of hardship. Solo offline its just to speed runny for me knowing i can p8 to hell Baal in quick succession farming the normal spots so easily. I dunno. Im still torm over what is best
The time it takes to fill a lobby with 8 players is what makes me go p1.
Either that or I make public games called "I cs You MF" or something and just play solo until people eventually join and buff the mobs. But since I'm reserving CS for myself, I don't have to compete for any loot.
Online I always have 🔥 luck
(Alone) compared to playing offline...
As a fellow streamer, finding people has become much easier. But even still sometimes you just dont have the time. You had some above average luck on them p1's but i think the point still lands solid.
Split mf seems to be my most bang for buck. You guys go eff off and play somewhere else and leave me to my sandbox lol. Some examples from just last night.
Running cows. Drop a jah, dude whos not even killing slips in grabs the rune and keeps following me around.
Later, split mf, i get a ber drop click it, it doesnt pick up, i have to tele out before dying and have time to tele back and grab it.
I’m oceanic ping so 99% of lobby games have ping so high I can’t even teleport properly let alone pick up dropped items before other players 😢
I like the idea with this video....but running it with a paladin this decked out compared to what the casual player runs with, doesnt match up.
Split magic find games with 3 to 5 players works pretty well. No one's in your lane to snatch your items
can i ask sir is the skill of druid hurricane physical damge or elem damge ?
but would it be worth it to do the online if you only play solo.
answer to the title of the video is RNG yes/no, no/yes who knows
Clearly p8 has better drops but the problem is you are fighting 7 other people for them
THAT RABENFROST WAS 4 AR OFF PERFECT
The most efficient way to MF is higher player count & split MF, so you are in your own area and not fighting over drops!
if you hunting for elites and champions its better on p1 otherwise like higher density normal mob farm is better on p3 split game
its like gambling and if the item drops while your clicker is right there. also fcr break points. and being sober...
you have a point about having to fight with 7 other people for the drops in a public game BUT the magic find is way better when there is 8 players in the game and also when the players are close by , the drop rates of runes in p1 vs p8 is insanely different and runes is what everyone is searching for. if you have a good clear speed the best will always be to solo an area in a p8 game. also you could try again your challenge and will have completly different outcome, thats RNG
Except MF is calculated on the last hit during group games. So if you're the MFer but you're farming with 7 others who have much lower than you.. Kinda like having your merc kill a boss lol :s
The video is not objective. You can join to Ballruns game and run Chaos alone and get all loot on P8.
I all the Time get shako on p1 likes 5 drops.
Fighting for these drops with 7 players early ladder is half of the fun😂😂
Pickit is still used by at least 20% of the playerbase. If you are in a game with someone using pickit you won't beat them to anything that is on their 'list'.
Ya I don't play with others often because of that
Those 2/20 Java gloves INSANITY
When it say 2 in same area,if i play with 2 account,if 1 stay at the wp,does its increase the drop on all the area?or the 2 players need to stay near each other?
I consider myself proud online only non-ladder Andy.
The real answer is to join a p8 game and farm an unused mf zone
Hi Phil! Do you play D4?
Personally I feel people should learn to be more efficient and effective with basic equipment. More importantly learn the game properly. When people get in the rat race you don’t realize you don’t “have to” you just want to.
I like to join random games with people in it to farm in. They always complain that im increasing the P level without helping - to that I say, make a private game then :)
I just play solo offline, no pressure and great longevity - plus every drop is mine haha....
Jk I'm a gambling addict so I'll take my chances in full public games
Lmao the 2/20 ML java gloves were beast drop
Where's the FoH stick?
but yea I Dont like P8 chaos games cant pickup anything
Ten 8-player chaos runs = hr
I ALWAYS solo or with a team. Pub noobs don't kill anything and yet have sticky fingers...🙄
If I ever go to pubs, it's only for leveling or to help out the noobs🤷♂️
P1 all the way unless running with a team.
those public games, they are letting you have stuff... so i guess not quite accurate.