Jeffrey, I highly recommend you look into the work of Robert Moss regarding working with dreams. His methods are straightforward and pragmatic as well as fun & illuminating. Moss' books, *Conscious Dreaming* and *Dreaming the Soul Back Home* would be a good place to start, or just watch his presentations here on UA-cam to get a sense of his approach. His historical, shamanistic & anthropological approach has transformed my understanding of dreams and given me tools to gain insight into my dreams to a degree I never would have considered before. Very highly recommended.
Hah, he really puts Jeffrey through his paces here hahah. Really interesting to see a breakdown and study of a dream in real time, where Pierre really didn't know anything of it before, we can see how he thinks it through and applies his knowledge of how dreams tend to work and what they might mean.
This dream of Jeffrey's is not an ordinary dream - the random, everyday dream. Something spoke to him from his deeper unconscious. I wonder what changed back then in his life. Regardless, the dream was revealing something positive waiting for him in his future. We all, occasionally, have more important dreams that we should remember. I've been cognizant of my dreams more than 50 years. Sometimes, we seem to stop dreaming; at first I thought it was related to aging. Now, after beginning to have nightly dreams again, I'm reasonably sure that Blockage is a symptom of an unresolved emotional confict... or a complex. Just this week I figured out my Complex, in the form of a Jungian Archetype (now understood.) It's never too late to learn that we are connected to our dreams, in an emotional manner.
In a recent NTA video Jeffrey discussed the idea that we can dream our future. This video with Pierre is a few years old. I wonder if it is to do with the Bigalow prize?
Jeff, your account of the dream temple and knowing the path was there just sent chills up my spine. You wear your Chinese teacher garment well. Dr. Grimes is one of most interesting people ever interviewed here. I agree with his phenomenal insights and conclusions.
I really appreciate and respect Dr. Mishlove's willingness to be transparent and honest. It is really nice to know there are genuine people in the world. I felt I learned allot about him AND dreams here.
Do i get this right? He had feelings of calm and Peace that have been far more profound then back in his dream when he did not care about being executed soon? 16:00
The experience in the dream in my interpretation based on his feeling and events. The execution represents Jeffery’s subconscious understanding of his impending death as he ages. Jeffery describes his selfishness and his greed concerning the robe and his unconcern towards the rest of the others. The robe likely represents his body and his attachment to it knowing he would soon be executed but still completely wrapped up in the robe. So Jeffery may need, according to his subconscious, to keep working on detachment and preparation through spiritual understanding (Taoism). Incidentally Daoism of all the spiritual paths is most closely associated with letting go.
You must have been focussed on your work that day. The valise represents your work. Your work deals with entering the higher realms of consciousness. You feel that parapsychology is exotic and mysterious. You love your work because it makes you feel peaceful, satisfied and happy. But, you feel a bit guilty and selfish in focussing so much of your time on your work neglecting your other roles. You don't recognize the other people meaning they are just different aspects of yourself. Maybe that day you meant to exercise before work, but instead you rushed off to work because you were excited about it. This is why it's important to reflect back on your day. Only you can accurately interpret your dreams. Not me, or Pierre or anyone else.
Dream interpretation has changed since times of antiquity. With the current understanding of the suns electrons to the information transmitted through air (sight unseen). Natural and synthetic influences probably has an effect on dreaming. What about astral projection? I usually go to sleep and ask a wish or question to be answered; sent out to the ethers, so that as I awake I know whether if I am on track with my goals if goals are committed to the larger unity.
Jeffrey: sounds like you’re attached to being human (we all are)...you can choose to be another great illuminated mind in the East in your next incarnation, as you have accomplished much here in terms of spreading knowledge. Your work is always remembered each time you come. This makes you happy. Will you remember the other souls next time you visit the bardo? will you come back to add depth to this reality? Thank you for everything and sharing this experience!
I told my family about you and how this show is my morning and evening news. I told them how you laughed and responded to the trolls. Trolls are hecklers on the internet. I witness your equanimity, the scholar and priestly manner about you. Even when you spoke of death, you were very calm about it. I got mad but I was being selfish. I thought you can't be dying and stop talking like that. However, I get it. Anyways, I believe the dream represented your career and life. You're very modest and humble. In my eyes, you do resemble a high ranking scholar and pastor. Just my opinion which Napoleon Hill said opinions are the cheapest commodity in the world. 😂 Yet, I believe words have power and dreams. Could you suggest a good dream dictionary or book please, Mr. or Dr. Mishlove?
Jeffrey, question for you, do you think there's something valuable to you personally that you can appreciate more by removing all other external considerations? It appears to be hinted at by the dream, that something new is emerging in you and the path to bringing it forward into consciousness is through appreciation of the value of it. Doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. By the way, the quote about the letter is from The Talmud, not Freud, though Freud might have quoted it.
I did this in reverse recently. It has been probably years since I have taken a psychedelic (the statute of limitations is over) but I had a dream where I was mixing up a special batch of Grecian ‘huasca’, to facilitate catharsis for some dream characters, and accidentally got myself high. I must say it was one of the most psychedelic experiences of my life and distinctly different from any experience that I have ever had in waking (or sleeping life). It is amazing how much can be recalled from associative memory, something which has always fascinated me; but the dream really drove the message home on a deeper level than I knew was possible. It was so intense I was actually nervous to go to sleep the next night; which I eventually did, but the experience did not repeat itself.... yet. Now, I look forward to it happening again.
Hi Jeff, I think your dream represents your career in Parapsychology. You and the other prisoners represent Parapsychologists going on a long uphill journey. You know you will be killed career wise but the rope represents a really important discovery in Parapsychology. The discovery brings you such great happiness that it blocks out all other thoughts 😊
Your dream about the robe makes me think of Alchemy. In that worst of possible moments, you focused on the beauty (gold) which took you to peace, love and serenity. You sound like you might judge you were selfish in the moment and I see that your discernment guided you how to die in peace without concern (you knew you were going to die) knowing death is not really the final moment and you learned how to move from life to life easily (a portal). Thanks for sharing that, I cried pretty hard bc knowing what you love and worked hard for (turned you to gold) was your path and you learned how to stay above the painful drama of life.
Perhaps we are all on lung accents to a higher place. And the executioners are just the sense of the end of life. So the image that you alluded to which was being cast from the top of the tower into thin air may be the departure from our more concrete reality. And you are being outfitted for your departure as the brilliant priest-scholar. The interesting part is that you are the one who moves actively to the valise.
@JeffMishlove, Question: 1) What did the dream master was trying to tell you about yourself, of the way and level you thought you were directing yourself or were not, which cause excited and drawn you toward, (within the whole wide hierarchy range, from lowest to highest of spiritual and intellectual power)? altc
I never ever do have nightmares! Am I merely lucky or does it depend on the state of my Self-being? Except, as a small child I dreamed a lot that I was flying, my arms as my wings and having to put up my knees towards my chest, as people tried very hard to pull me down to them, catching me by my legs: It was hard work to escape them ...
Dream 20 yrs. ago: Driving a 57 Chevy convertible it flipped over but i didn't die or have any fear when i awoke. When I was 12 I had out of body experience.
after a long journey of rise, progress against adverse circumstances, someone will be gifted with the chance to reincarnate with a new healthy and beautiful physical organism, and a talented spiritual mind.
I think Jung would compare the robe to the persona. It's the mind saying the image of being a great scholar is overly important to you. You're willing to allow the destruction of others in order to attain your selfish goal.
i watched my mother, as she was lead away to her death, she kept getting smaller, and, smaller, as the distance increased, (.. with her dress blowing in the wind....) . for the longest time, .........i couldn't understand why, she never once, ............turned around, to look at me.
now understand something. that wasn't my dream. it was video testimony, given by an old man who, was a young boy in Nazi controlled territory during world war two. (....it's all in how you perceive...)
People over complicate the meaning of dreams. They are just a replay of the things that we were most focussed on in the 24 hours prior to the dream. Consciously, we think in tangible and intangible words. In REM, these words are replaced by images. The images that seem bizarre or out of place are our sub-conscious interpretation of intangible words or concepts. That's why they're difficult to interpret. Dreams give us the opportunity to know our feelings without the distraction of thinking. That's all.
Jeffrey, I highly recommend you look into the work of Robert Moss regarding working with dreams. His methods are straightforward and pragmatic as well as fun & illuminating. Moss' books, *Conscious Dreaming* and *Dreaming the Soul Back Home* would be a good place to start, or just watch his presentations here on UA-cam to get a sense of his approach. His historical, shamanistic & anthropological approach has transformed my understanding of dreams and given me tools to gain insight into my dreams to a degree I never would have considered before. Very highly recommended.
Profoundly helpful...Thank you Pierre!
Thanks for sharing this dream and conversation.
Hah, he really puts Jeffrey through his paces here hahah.
Really interesting to see a breakdown and study of a dream in real time, where Pierre really didn't know anything of it before, we can see how he thinks it through and applies his knowledge of how dreams tend to work and what they might mean.
This dream of Jeffrey's is not an ordinary dream - the random, everyday dream. Something spoke to him from his deeper unconscious. I wonder what changed back then in his life. Regardless, the dream was revealing something positive waiting for him in his future. We all, occasionally, have more important dreams that we should remember. I've been cognizant of my dreams more than 50 years. Sometimes, we seem to stop dreaming; at first I thought it was related to aging.
Now, after beginning to have nightly dreams again, I'm reasonably sure that Blockage is a symptom of an unresolved emotional confict... or a complex. Just this week I figured out my Complex, in the form of a Jungian Archetype (now understood.) It's never too late to learn that we are connected to our dreams, in an emotional manner.
Those other beings in Jeff's dream, that he mostly ignored, were likely former versions of himself - the ones he outgrew.
WOW! I am so grateful for this video on so many levels and hope everyone who watches will begin to pay attention to their dreams!
I have accounted for my dreams since a child.
hi
I approach my dreams similarly. So few attempt to understand their dreams. Jeffrey has accomplished much in his life.
In a recent NTA video Jeffrey discussed the idea that we can dream our future. This video with Pierre is a few years old. I wonder if it is to do with the Bigalow prize?
Jeff, your account of the dream temple and knowing the path was there just sent chills up my spine. You wear your Chinese teacher garment well. Dr. Grimes is one of most interesting people ever interviewed here. I agree with his phenomenal insights and conclusions.
Pierre is truly a rare person--a wise sage.
I love this guy. He's one of my favorite guests.
I really appreciate and respect Dr. Mishlove's willingness to be transparent and honest. It is really nice to know there are genuine people in the world. I felt I learned allot about him AND dreams here.
Do i get this right?
He had feelings of calm and Peace that have been far more profound then back in his dream when he did not care about being executed soon?
16:00
The experience in the dream in my interpretation based on his feeling and events. The execution represents Jeffery’s subconscious understanding of his impending death as he ages. Jeffery describes his selfishness and his greed concerning the robe and his unconcern towards the rest of the others. The robe likely represents his body and his attachment to it knowing he would soon be executed but still completely wrapped up in the robe. So Jeffery may need, according to his subconscious, to keep working on detachment and preparation through spiritual understanding (Taoism). Incidentally Daoism of all the spiritual paths is most closely associated with letting go.
You must have been focussed on your work that day. The valise represents your work. Your work deals with entering the higher realms of consciousness. You feel that parapsychology is exotic and mysterious. You love your work because it makes you feel peaceful, satisfied and happy. But, you feel a bit guilty and selfish in focussing so much of your time on your work neglecting your other roles. You don't recognize the other people meaning they are just different aspects of yourself. Maybe that day you meant to exercise before work, but instead you rushed off to work because you were excited about it. This is why it's important to reflect back on your day. Only you can accurately interpret your dreams. Not me, or Pierre or anyone else.
Dream interpretation has changed since times of antiquity. With the current understanding of the suns electrons to the information transmitted through air (sight unseen). Natural and synthetic influences probably has an effect on dreaming. What about astral projection? I usually go to sleep and ask a wish or question to be answered; sent out to the ethers, so that as I awake I know whether if I am on track with my goals if goals are committed to the larger unity.
Pierre is a real gent. Love listening to him. Dreams are the fast road to wisdom
Jeffrey: sounds like you’re attached to being human (we all are)...you can choose to be another great illuminated mind in the East in your next incarnation, as you have accomplished much here in terms of spreading knowledge. Your work is always remembered each time you come. This makes you happy. Will you remember the other souls next time you visit the bardo? will you come back to add depth to this reality? Thank you for everything and sharing this experience!
Ty
Dream Working Allowed with Pierre Grimes
since Pierre was doing most of the interviewing in this one
At times I hang out & have great fun with beings I cannot remember
Yes. Feels tragic, to me
you mean getting drunk and hanging out with random people at bars? yeah i know what you mean bro
I told my family about you and how this show is my morning and evening news. I told them how you laughed and responded to the trolls. Trolls are hecklers on the internet. I witness your equanimity, the scholar and priestly manner about you. Even when you spoke of death, you were very calm about it. I got mad but I was being selfish. I thought you can't be dying and stop talking like that. However, I get it. Anyways, I believe the dream represented your career and life. You're very modest and humble. In my eyes, you do resemble a high ranking scholar and pastor. Just my opinion which Napoleon Hill said opinions are the cheapest commodity in the world. 😂 Yet, I believe words have power and dreams. Could you suggest a good dream dictionary or book please, Mr. or Dr. Mishlove?
Jeffrey, question for you, do you think there's something valuable to you personally that you can appreciate more by removing all other external considerations? It appears to be hinted at by the dream, that something new is emerging in you and the path to bringing it forward into consciousness is through appreciation of the value of it. Doesn't matter what anyone else thinks.
By the way, the quote about the letter is from The Talmud, not Freud, though Freud might have quoted it.
Omigosh! Dr. Jeffrey, have you had any more dreams about that? Now that you've gone through a deeper look at it?😆
This is pure gold... and, not meaning to inflate your ego, may have decided my future profession as a dream counsellor
I did this in reverse recently. It has been probably years since I have taken a psychedelic (the statute of limitations is over) but I had a dream where I was mixing up a special batch of Grecian ‘huasca’, to facilitate catharsis for some dream characters, and accidentally got myself high. I must say it was one of the most psychedelic experiences of my life and distinctly different from any experience that I have ever had in waking (or sleeping life). It is amazing how much can be recalled from associative memory, something which has always fascinated me; but the dream really drove the message home on a deeper level than I knew was possible. It was so intense I was actually nervous to go to sleep the next night; which I eventually did, but the experience did not repeat itself.... yet. Now, I look forward to it happening again.
Hi Jeff, I think your dream represents your career in Parapsychology. You and the other prisoners represent Parapsychologists going on a long uphill journey. You know you will be killed career wise but the rope represents a really important discovery in Parapsychology. The discovery brings you such great happiness that it blocks out all other thoughts 😊
Your dream about the robe makes me think of Alchemy. In that worst of possible moments, you focused on the beauty (gold) which took you to peace, love and serenity. You sound like you might judge you were selfish in the moment and I see that your discernment guided you how to die in peace without concern (you knew you were going to die) knowing death is not really the final moment and you learned how to move from life to life easily (a portal). Thanks for sharing that, I cried pretty hard bc knowing what you love and worked hard for (turned you to gold) was your path and you learned how to stay above the painful drama of life.
I have been trying to keep/start my dream journal just recently. So this video comes at a wonderful time!
with this talk of taoism and dreams, i'd really like to see jeff interview someone about chaungtzu!
So loving my UA-cam 'Share-apy' via Thinking Allowed especially with these two wise old souls! :) Many blessings/Namaste XOXO
💚 my interpretation is you are crown with a title world teacher, or a high heavenly administrative position
seems a far fetched assumption on a single dream, I would have accept if the dream is recurring but in this case, it is just a single dream.
Pierre is among those, who rightfully may call themselves "woke"
enlightentment is the journey,not the destination....good dream jeffery:)
Thank you, Pierre and Jeffrey
The role and succeeding dreams 💛
kallisti
Perhaps “a thing of beauty” is a joy forever.
Thank you, Jeff, for all your thoughtful work.
Nice Video, thanks.
OG Pierre interviewed you and made you think. 😂
Perhaps we are all on lung accents to a higher place. And the executioners are just the sense of the end of life. So the image that you alluded to which was being cast from the top of the tower into thin air may be the departure from our more concrete reality. And you are being outfitted for your departure as the brilliant priest-scholar. The interesting part is that you are the one who moves actively to the valise.
Long ascents to a stepping off place!
@JeffMishlove, Question: 1) What did the dream master was trying to tell you about yourself, of the way and level you thought you were directing yourself or were not, which cause excited and drawn you toward, (within the whole wide hierarchy range, from lowest to highest of spiritual and intellectual power)? altc
Thank you too.
A dream may just be a past life experience, regarding Mishlove's dream, besides or if not being metaphorical.
What delicious conversation!
I never ever do have nightmares! Am I merely lucky or does it depend on the state of
my Self-being? Except, as a small child I dreamed a lot that I was flying, my arms as
my wings and having to put up my knees towards my chest, as people tried very hard
to pull me down to them, catching me by my legs: It was hard work to escape them ...
Dream 20 yrs. ago: Driving a 57 Chevy convertible it flipped over but i didn't die or have any fear when i awoke.
When I was 12 I had out of body experience.
after a long journey of rise, progress against adverse circumstances, someone will be gifted with the chance to reincarnate with a new healthy and beautiful physical organism, and a talented spiritual mind.
I brought a woman back a few months ago, and I had a dream that my soul was being dragged into hell. I should have paid attention.
This was my instant reaction to your dream... in your next incarnation... you are going to be a Chinese scholar...
Allen ginsberg used to keep rigorous track of his dreams...
It was such a privelige to listen to your guest
Thank you so much
I think Jung would compare the robe to the persona. It's the mind saying the image of being a great scholar is overly important to you. You're willing to allow the destruction of others in order to attain your selfish goal.
What does that convert piece of art represent?
It's from Africa and it's called "family"
i watched my mother,
as she was lead away to her death,
she kept getting smaller,
and,
smaller,
as the distance increased,
(.. with her dress blowing in the wind....)
.
for the longest time,
.........i couldn't understand why,
she never once,
............turned around,
to look at me.
now understand something.
that wasn't my dream.
it was video testimony,
given by an old man who,
was a young boy in Nazi controlled territory during world war two.
(....it's all in how you perceive...)
This guy knows how to communicate. Really, that's all I ask of a guest. He has little Jeffrey wrapped around his finger.
People over complicate the meaning of dreams. They are just a replay of the things that we were most focussed on in the 24 hours prior to the dream. Consciously, we think in tangible and intangible words. In REM, these words are replaced by images. The images that seem bizarre or out of place are our sub-conscious interpretation of intangible words or concepts. That's why they're difficult to interpret. Dreams give us the opportunity to know our feelings without the distraction of thinking. That's all.
Debatable
Seriously debatable.