Stan Lee came up with the mutant idea because he wanted to avoid to have an explanation for the origins of the powers the heroes have every time. Made it easy for him to create new characters. It's as simple as that. You can be a mutant for the same reason you have red hair or odd eyes. The numbers of mutant is potentially gigantic among people but not all powers are great nor powerful ou useful. They can be insignifiant. Hero or villain mutants we see in movies that take actions are the one with the mighty or interesting powers.
Pyro getting schooled by Magneto about prof X, is something that all younger generations should watch. Magneto explaining his view on tattoos to the younger generation was serious BD energy.
The thing with Jean was that all her powers weren't just from her mutation, naturally she was a telepath and had powers of telekinesis. But she was greatly enhanced by the entity known as the Phoenix Force. There is quite a story behind her becoming the vessel of the Phoenix, it's a shame they never fully covered that in the movies.
It does make sense for Wolverine to kill Jean... she's prove to be unstable and violent, she can eviscerate people in seconds. Yes she has moments of clarity but the risk of her turning destructive again was very high. In the moment its the best option. A lot of people made a lot of mistakes that led to Jean being maniacal
plus Jean probably disintegrated any of the cure left on the ground and if Logan was carrying a syringe it would of been disintegrated before he got to her
Keep doing you, and keep being yourself. I've been watching your Marvel reactions for a while, and the best part of everything is the empathy that we can see on you all the time. When you can't think of what to say, and have a hard time articulating your thoughts into words, it's okay because you are a feeler, and not a thinker. I like watching your reactions because I'm the same way
Your post film discussion: Supposedly Eric (Magneto) is a good chess player, because he and Charles have been playing for decades. Chess is a strategy game - you have to think many moves ahead and how the other player can counter your moves. But in the fight for mutant rights, he falls back on the simple plan of rousing his followers with speeches and then a mass attack. Revolutionaries have done that for centuries, and more often than not the revolution fails. I call that a fatal plot flaw. You're smart, Stef. You have questions. Most people watch movies like this, eat their popcorn, enjoy the fights and romance angles, and don't think too hard about whether it all makes sense. The science of mutants: First, keep in mind these movies are based on comic book characters. None of these powers are based in reality. Every superhero needs an origin story that explains why they are different than regular people. For Iron Man, Tony and his dad were geniuses. For Captain America it was a serum and "vita rays". For the X-men universe the mutants have different genetics in their cells than regular people, specifically ones that give them special powers. In real life, strips of DNA called "genes" are the instructions for how life works. Different genes produce differences in people, like skin and hair color, and also what makes people different from dogs and trees. A change in the instructions is a mutation. They actually happen all the time, that's how life evolves. But in real life we don't get super powers from them.
So yes the X-Gene is what causes the mutations but the first 3 movied never really go to deep into the explanation, maybe comic book movies were still not that popular so they kept big comic book explanations out of the movies so the most casual person could go see it. Anyway the comics do explain the science way better and sk do future movies as well but its okay to explain it, its no spoilers The gene came into existence the same way evolution works, a mutation in a person causes a change, often small and unnoticible but over millions of years an ape can go from ape to human. The gene happens in humans and is pretty much just recessive. A lot of people have the gene (passed down from their ancestors and parents) but most of the time the gene never actives in people. The powers manifest only in situations or environments that need the gene to activate, often in a time of distress and the need for survival. An abusive home for example. The X-Gene then activates and your mutation begins, often relating to your situation or environment in order to protect you. Other times however in modern day its posible to receive similar powers to your parents, ancestors, or siblings if their mutang gene was previously activated. Then instead of passing just a regular X-Gene, its one with the same or related powers, therefore kid having the same powers as their parents. One more thing I'll add is that Jean did destroy all the injections in that moments all the soldiers showed up, so there really wasn't another option, pressure or no, all he could do was Kill Jean to save her from herself and save everyone as well, so youre right about wolverine lowering the defenses of Jean enough because he loves her but also the needles being all destroyed Also we see Magneto get his powers back so in the end it sadly wouldn't had worked
Yup and they messed that up in this movie.. the least they could've done is when Magneto the brotherhood and Xavier alongside Storm and Logan outside Jean's residence: Xavier could've said something along the lines "Cain,I see they let you out,with him giving Xavier a grunt or slight nod to him .."
Fun fact: Professor X was directly based on Martin Luther King Jr. while Magneto was inspired by Malcom X. The concept of mutants being disenfranchised was an analogy to racism, where both of those prominent historical figures were fighting for black rights, but under very different philosophies.
A well-read layperson's understanding: Everyone having different powers is because the entire point of mutants is that they are an evolutionary leap forward. Evolution doesn't tend to go in straight lines or every genetic strain changing in the same way. A lot of the time (maybe every time, I forget), mutation is a reaction to environmental factors. (Also worth pointing out that evolutionary mutations aren't always a good improvement, because it's kinda random.) A real life example of a survival mutation would be these moths that lived in an environment with a lot of soot that collected on everything. Moths have a much faster generational turnover than mammals and such, so it was possible to document the fact they evolved so that their coloring went from bright colors to grays and blacks, the better to camouflage against the soot-covered trees. That variation of color -- that mutant ability -- was the most successful at surviving (and procreating, thereby spreading their genetic line), so eventually there WERE mostly those kinds of moths in that area. But the X-Men mutants aren't nearly at the point where any particular mutation is the dominant one, and it probably wouldn't work that way for humans anyway, because our social structures don't work quite the same way as insects. Hope that gives you some of the science you were looking for!
Yeah, the mutations are brought on by a specific X-gene that’s inherited. Many of the mutants in the comics have family members that are also mutants. I don’t know if they ever say in the comics that it’s recessive, but it acts kind of like a recessive gene. The powers manifest usually through environmental factors affecting carriers of the X-gene.
Another factor to not being able to use the cure on jean is that she destroyed everything on wolverine that was not adamantium or had super healing, if he had the cure on him, it would have been destroyed.
Your Argentine spanish came out when you called magneto "Pelotudo" Love it. Great reaction girl!!! Once you are done with X-men and the old spiderman at least you are ready to go full force with the MCU phase 4. Watch all the TV shows :) keep it up
"I have been marked once and let me assure you: no needle shall ever touch my skin again," goes so hard. Just like his single greatest regret was that Charles died. The older I get the more I'm like 'Magneto and John Brown maybe had some good ideas.'
Idk about this universe, but in the comics Phoenix is not an alterego to Jean, but more like a cosmic entity residing in Jean's body, so even if you "cure" Jean, the Phoenix would still be around. Plus as u saw it wasn't permanent xd
In the comics when a mutants power would manifest it would often manifest in a way that was influenced by their life up to that point and what is going on when it manifests. Often the powers would manifest during stressful events. Powers commonly manifested during puberty as was mentioned in one of the films. In the mid 80s or so and before there were a lot of female characters who were mutants but background characters. They were sometimes introduced as part of a storyline or as a random student that got involved in a storyline. Then they would end up as a romantic interest from time to time. Their powers tended to be rather undefined as they were just background characters. Then readers started getting interested and wanted to know more. So, now we have some great storylines with Jean Grey, Psylocke, Kitty Pride, and several others. As far as hitting Jean with the cure. The way she was flaying Wolverines armor and skin the cure would have most likely been destroyed. The comics got more involved in the science behind things. But being a movie they have to deal with time constraints.
In the comics, Jean is an omega level mutant (Mutants whose potential is practically unlimited) who is very powerful on her own without needing the Phoenix. This is because the Phoenix Force it's a cosmic entity since before the creation of the universe, and not an evolution of Jean's powers as in the movies. The entity gives almost divine powers to those who possess it, and in the case of superhumans, it considerably increases their powers. She possessed Jean during an X-Men mission in space, which began the Phoenix/Dark Phoenix Saga, one of the best X-Men stories.
The X-Gene is passed from parent to child, which is why some mutants develop the same mutation as their parents. As is the case with Magento and his daughter Polaris, which also controls magnetism. Mutants are usually born with a single mutation and might develop a secondary mutation later due to some trauma. As is the case of Emma Frost, who was born a telepath and later developed the mutation to transform her skin into an organic diamond. However, there are mutants like Jean and Wolverine, who are born with two or more mutations: telekinesis and telepathy in her case, and healing factor, enhanced senses and retractable claws in Logan's case.
The movie doesn't delve into it, but Jean's Phoenix persona is actually a cosmic entity powerful enough to destroy entire planets and solar systems. So it's not really part of Jean's mutant powers, therefore the cure probably wouldn't do anything to eliminate her Phoenix powers. One of the major criticisms that fans had with this movie was how it mishandled the Phoenix story. It's a much bigger galactic-level story in the comics, but the movie doesn't go that far, and it even sidelines the Phoenix story to give time to the seemingly separate plot about the mutant cure.
And also the needle of the cure would get trough those attack. Logan in adamantium barely made it to get close to her. So the plastic and the needle wouldn’t be possible 😉
2:30 - "With X-Men, it feels like it would be a never ending story." Comic book fans: "Well, they made the first comic book in the 1960s, and they're still making stories today."
stef, stan lee created the Xmen in the 1960s after the us had just used the atomic bomb for the first time in world war 2, and he called the Xmen the children of the atom, meaning he thought the nuclear explosions around the world mutated either everyone or just certain people and it went from there, and stan thought radiation caused the mutant phenomena
This, but also: the idea of Mutants was hit upon as a simple way to explain the powers of lots of characters at once: a common 'origin story' that didn't require coming up with a new explanation every time they introduced a new hero or villain.
In the comics, Juggernaut is not a mutant. He is Xavier's half brother who during the war found a mystical gem that gave him powers. The Stone of Cyttorak is a very powerful mystical artifact, which transforms the user into the avatar of the God of Destruction, Cyttorak. The avatar gains super strength capable of rivaling the Hulk, invulnerability and the ability to survive without oxygen or food. He is also known as 'The Unstoppable Juggernaut' because once he gains momentum, nothing can stop him.
Whoa, never been this fast to a Stef drop lol. Hope you had a wonderful Christmas. Have a Happy New Year. I like this one a lot. Jean being Dark Phoenix was amazing. So sad seeing Charles go :( Nice reaction. Can't wait for you to watch the prequels. I suggest The Neverending Story (1984).
To answer many of the question you had about this movie, I offer this simple answer -- the movie was very badly written. Every single thing you asked about, particularly about using The Cure on Jean rather than impaling her, were completely valid. Sadly, this movie did a very poor job of delivering a story that made any sense. The source material had a very different story concerning Jean Grey and how she became The Phoenix. The X-Men had found themselves on a mission in space. They found themselves in the path of a massive solar flare whose radiation would kill anyone who wasn't in the ship's shielded area. Jean forced everyone into it and locked them in while she remained at the controls to guide the ship back into the atmosphere while using her powers to hold off the radiation long enough to get through the storm and get the ship back on the ground. After crash landing in Jamaica Bay near New York, the team assumed Jean had died. What had happened to her was as she was dying, a cosmic entity called The Phoenix took note of what she was doing and determined Jean would be a suitable host. The godlike being bonded with Jean Grey and she was "reborn" as Phoenix. As a result, her telekinetic and telepathic powers went through the roof, putting her in the same power league as Captain Marvel. What followed afterwards was some of the best stories X-Men had ever had and came to be known as "The Phoenix Saga" where her power began to corrupt her and she went from being a hero to "Dark Phoenix". This movie, on the other hand, ignored most of that history and rewrote everything, preserving only the names of the characters. I get that filmmakers have to adapt the source material in order to make a watchable film. Peter Jackson did it with "The Lord of the Rings". Richard Donner did it with "Superman". Ron Howard did it with "Apollo 13". But what Brett Ratner and Simon Kinberg did with the Phoenix Saga is unforgivable. The worst part of it was that Kinberg was given a second shot to do this story with "X-Men: Dark Phoenix" in 2019 .... and it was WORSE!! He had 13 years to take in all the things he screwed up with this movie and proceeded to film an even worse telling of the story. It's frustrating
The Phoenix is the most powerful entity in the Marvel Universe, or rather, one of the two most powerful characters in the Marvel Universe. The other character who equals its power is Wanda (Scarlet Witch).
23:07 es cierto que charles y eric se enemistaron por sus ideales.. pero incluso magneto aun le tenia respeto y estima hacia quien fue su amigo... eric jamas hubiera querido que algo asi sucediera, dandose cuenta que si NO CONTROLABA a jean... ella causaria una masacre mundial por su cuenta
The fans hated the movie because the Phoenix Saga should have been on the level of Infinity War, with the Phoenix Force being one of the most powerful entities in the universe, capable of destroying entire planets, magnitudes more powerful than Thanos or Scarlet Witch, but instead we got... this.
Well, Wolverine was practically naked by the time he made it to Jean. Its safe to assume, if he had the "cure", it wouldve been vaporized and he wouldve had to kill her anyway. Also, the X-Gene shows differently in everyone. A lot of mutants have such minor mutations that dont really do much. Plus, it was the 6 X-Men PLUS a bunch of soldiers who can immediately take their powers away, so the Brotherhood attacked all at once to try and overwhelm them.
How could you use the kid to stop Jean if ANYONE in sight Jean was pulverized? That’s the reason for Wolverine to be the one that had a chance to come close, since he could heal (barely) in time to keep coming closer to Jean.
The science behind the mutants is that Stan Lee got tired of coming up with new origin stories to explain why so and so had super powers so he was like eh these guys are born with them.
Regarding the mutant class/rankings you asked about, there is but its sometimes vague and inconsistent over decades of comic publication. Generally from high to low: Omega, Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, Epsilon. Omega levels are insanely powerful mutants with almost limitless potential eg. Jean Grey, Magneto, Iceman, Prof X Alpha levels are also extremely powerful but do have limitations eg. Cyclops, Storm Beta levels have "simpler" powers eg. Wolverine, Rogue You get the point, further down the rank the abilities are less controllable, powerful or practical. Some mutants simply look deformed or have useless abilities like transparent skin or that kid with a forked tongue in X2.
The scope of the mutants is different in the movies versus the comics. The movies are limited because Fox only had the rights of the mutant characters and the Fantastic Four characters. There was some cross over of other characters but very limited. So this defined the how mutants came about in the movies. It was limited to gene mutation or evolution. Now in the comics it’s both of them along with exposure to radiation combined with genetic abnormalities and other characters that had superhuman abilities already having children with one or both parents having powers. The best example of this in the comics is the Fantastic Four . In this case Reed Richards and Sue Storm were both normal people and then they got their powers through exposure to a radioactive cloud in space. Later they were married to each other and had kids. Their kids were born with powers this makes them mutants. Generally speaking characters born with powers makes them mutants but there is a grey area in which the mutation is not active and maybe triggered through some sort of event such as the event of the Fantastic Four and it could be argued that they were possibly mutants but not knowingly aware of it. But this is really getting into a whole different issue but for now it simple characters that are born with powers are mutants and those characters that weren’t born with powers or not.
The origins of Marvel mutants and the X-gene are both complex and fascinating. This genetic phenomenon explains why some humans develop extraordinary powers and abilities. Mutants are categorized into different types, classes, and levels, each with unique traits. Some mutants possess a single power, but they often find innovative ways to expand its use. Others are gifted with multiple powers, significantly broadening the scope of their abilities. Imagine the limitless possibilities of what such individuals could achieve with their talents. Just keep watching will nothing more👍👍
Not sure they ever fully explain, but mutants can be any of a massive variety of powers/abilities to any level of strength. For example someone might have the power to change the colour of their eyes, or a lot of people in the real world that we think of as having freakishly good skills or ability, a scientist, an athlete, an actors magnetic charm, a singers voice, a chess player, they could all be mutants. It's a spectrum. At the other end of the scale you have Jean, Professor X etc... Seen loads of reactions, you are the first I have seen that said why not give Jean the cure, I thought that was a great catch lol
The issue you're kind of talking around is "suspension of disbelief," and it's something all sci-fi writers have to contend with: the balancing act needed when making some part of the "laws of the universe" (as we know them) fictional and interesting (from a storytelling perspective) while also making everything seem believable and self-consistent. The X-Men franchise has added difficulty there because it's grounded in genetics, which were fairly poorly understood when the X-Men were created, but now are understood much better.
Stef, the Jean/Phoenix's story in comics is epic and should have been told over multiple movies, kind of like how Marvel told the Thanos/Infinity Stones story over many movies. Here Fox tried to cram it all into 1 movie and then added a totally different plot with the mutant cure stuff. So a lot of stuff here didn't make a lot of sense because it was super rushed and they were trying to cram in pieces of the comic story (very unsuccessfully). They didn't do a great job the second time around either.
I can help go over a few things here as I'm sure many will do in the comments but hey. 1. You're really sort of expecting to much from a science standpoint. They've effectively talked about it at the length probably needed for a movie. It's a single gene mutation in the human genome and that mutation manifests differently in each human with some developing similar powers and some wildly different. It's just a vehicle to give humans superpowers, and each of these humans with powers are called "mutants" due to this. That's really all there is to it. 2. Logan didn't use the cure on Jean because there's about a 99.9% chance she would've destroyed any cure that Logan was bringing (his clothes, skin etc are literally being vaporized as he approaches her. The boy probably also is dust before he's within range. I know you sort of came to a different conclusion as to why it wouldn't work, which is probably also true, but ya. The movie also did a terrible job with "Phoenix" in this movie which also would be why a cure most likely would not have worked even if they got it in her. 3. I like that you're catching yourself in trying to not "head canon" events in these movies. 4. As a total aside, I truly hope you have someone to help properly explain the X-Men timeline going forward here, because if you don't it does admittedly get super confusing and...sort of stupid. If you don't, I would recommend that you do as you mentioned here and just sort of watch the movies, if you do have someone to explain, great lol.
"She's good" and the funny thing is, it's not Mystique or the actress that plays her that's fooling you, it's the other actors/actresses pretending to be Mystique 😂
49:04 their is a lot of mutants in the comics cause it’s a whole race of ppl with powers so they were using characters with unique powers i assume. But yes most mutants can have the same powers but can either use them in unique ways or just be on different powers levels. Like Jean and Charles they both have telepathy but Jean is definitely stronger than Charles, she’s wasn’t as strong before cause of the mental blocks he put in her head at a young age. The X-gene is also pretty tricky, most mutations are random but they can also be passed down or evolve down a lineage. Cyclops emits concussive energy blasts from his eyes, but he actually has 2 young brothers with energy based abilities. The middle child Havok, can emit plasma waves from his body, and the youngest brother Vulcan is an Omega level Mutant which is the highest level of power, he can absorb and manipulate all forms of energy and utilize it in any way, shape, or form. So the powers you get are from a variety of reasons being personality traits, environment, mental state, or lineage
So i had actually never really thought about this until now, but I figure Wolverine couldn't bring the cure with him to save Jean because that would probably trigger Jean to kill him straight out or the actual cure needles wouldn't have made it to her. I mean just looking at the power that was being pushed again Logan was so strong i don't think they could have done that even if they wanted. Based on the fact that most of his clothing was torn away along with his skin being torn off too. I doubt a small needle or group of needles could have survived all of that
The Science you're wondering about: Darwinian evolutionary theory posits that all unique traits of any living thing (Eyesight, hearing, a birds ability to fly, a bats echolocation, even apposable thumbs etc.) are all the result of random mutation occurring in new generations of a given species. Those traits will either provide an advantage to the life of that offspring, provide a hinderance to life, or be barely noticeable. Those traits are then passed down through the genes of that creature (assuming it has lived long and healthy enough to reproduce) and over an extremely long time, come to define the unique characteristics of its kind, if that trait was successful enough. If it's a hinderance, that trait just dies out before it's passed on. These comics build on that same theory and ramp it up to 11, into the realm of the fantastical.
3:11 Yeah, in this mutant world, comparing these mutants to people with conventional illnesses always irritated me. Being one of these mutants may have some downsides, but the benefits are enormous in comparison. Can you think of any conventional illnesses that have such large benefits?
Hello Stef!😊 You might enjoy the prequels more, dealing with younger versions of these characters.😉 They could not get close enough to Jean without her destroying the cure. If Logan had it, it would have been destroyed as he approached her, just as she destroyed his body. I think you will enjoy "X-Men: First Class" (2011) and the subsequent prequels. Great reactions and outro, Stef!!!🎬👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
The "Cure" was temporary. Magneto's chess piece moved. Charles is alive. If you're looking for the science behind actual mutations, check real world biology. It's a comicbook film, Steph, science and real world biology doesn't really apply all that much, it's not that deep.
ur now watching the release date order. The background info comes after a few movies. like a Throwback how it all started. So ur meant to be confused watching these for the first time. If u rewatch them u will have a more understanding of whats happening and see other details in the movie. Next movie is a good one tho. Background of Wolverine
Youo wont actually ever get a "cientific background" for the way the mutations work, BECAUSE the whole point Stan Lee wrote it this way, was so he didn't have to have one. You can find shorts on yt about it, he basically said he wanted to have a superhero or heroes where he didn't have to go through all the process of building a backstory for how they got their powers. Since reaserch and info was spiking back then regarding genetics, he thought THATS IT! So he made this universe where people would have a gene that would trigger mutations of different types and thus he could have characters with all sort of abilities and not get bottled up in "how did this happen", but he could focus his creative energy elsewhere! Though i agree its a shame not to have more detail on how each their powers works, i myself love knowing the specifics of everything regarding powers and stuff. One of the things i loved about an anime called "HunterXHunter" (totally recomended)
So for the science behind mutants (imma try my best people please correct me on the parts i’m wrong), but the X-gene way back then was inside our genetic code and there was a point where humans evolved and the gene became active (Homo Superior). So everyone has the X-gene but it doesn’t always activate (or like in X2 only the male carries the gene, people help correct me here). And for the multiple mutations some mutants gain all of their powers when their X-gene activates and then there are some that go through another/ a secondary mutation that either upgrades their power or adds a new one but for that to happen pass puberty the stress would have to be very very intense. For example, Bobby’s ice form wasn’t apart of his first mutation it’s his secondary mutation.
stef, they only found the one cartridge of the cure left, the rest were destroyed by arclight's shockwaves, and they use all four needles on magneto, also, jean would have melted the needle before wolverine could inject her with it, she basically took all his skin and clothes off as he wallked up to her, and he had to keep regenerating his skin
Corazón, le estás dando mucho rollo a este asunto. Como viste al final, Eric no perdió sus poderes de un todo. Él era un mutante con una clasificación muy alta, ahora Jean es (de acuerdo a lot señalado por esta trilogía) la más fuerte de ellos, la cura no iba a funcionar. Ahora... ok, hablemos de opciones, está bien, supongamos que Wolverine usa más cura en ella y elimina la amenaza, igualmente ella iba a tener que pagar todo lo que había hecho, crees que Jean hubiese vivido tranquilamente con todo lo que hizo, incluso destrozando a Charles? Si seguimos tu punto de vista, podríamos decir que Wolverine la eliminó realizando un acto de misericordia, sacándola de su miseria de una buena vez por todas. En fin, entiendo lo que tratas de decir pero digamos que el riesgo de tener a Jean con vida era muy alto. Sigue viendo las demás películas, sí, en algún momento hay cosas que uno como que no le encuentra un sentido muy sólido, pero a la final son visiones de los directores basadas en algunos cómics. Algunos les encanta, otros no tanto, pero de igual manera son bien entretenidas. Feliz Año 🎉 Chamita 😘🎉🙏🏼
The cure wouldn’t have done anything for Jean because her mutation wasn’t the problem. The movie never really explains the Phoenix Force but basically it’s an entity more powerful than the Infinity Gauntlet and pretty much liked the freedom that came with possessing Jean. The curing of her mutant powers wouldn’t done anything
The cure likely would not have worked on Jean or only temporarily as she was one of the only level 5 (highly powerful) mutant. More powerful than Charles and Magneto. Also, technically the Phoenix is not a mutant. I know the movies took some liberty with the story but the Phoenix is a cosmic entity living inside Jean therefor the cure would do nothing to stop the Phoenix which enhances her powers, and enhances her mutation.
44:25 in magnetos army are many mutants in rage, brutal and don't want to work with others. the x-men are trained to work together. 45:07 he can't use the cure. the boy and the cure-bullets whould be destroyed on the way to her. did you see wulverines skin and bones? // I don't understand why you say so often that thinks don't make sence or does you are confused. at the moments you don't have all details. mostly later in the movies/episodes you get more details/reviels. without more details I can imagin many possible explanations for thinks that happens.
Wolverine couldn't use the cure on Jean because he would've never got close enough to her with it as she was trying to vaporise him it would've just destroyed the cure in his had so him killing her was really the only option.. Keep up the X-men series as they keep getting better.
Yeah, in the canon of Marvel, "mutation", in terms of all these amazingly exotic and superhuman powers and abilities, is determined by a single gene they refer to as "the X-gene". Genetically that doesn't make a whole lotta sense. Mosta these powers and immunities involve physiological differences from a wide range of parts of the body. We know, to the extent such mutations would even be feasible, that those are all controlled by completely different sets of genes from all across the genome. At least, we understand that *today*. But remember: X-Men was created back in 1963, and even just the basic helical structure of DNA was only first being discovered 10 years before. This is kinda what Stan Lee and creators were able to creatively imagine back during those years. We just have to treat it as a narrative conceit, one that's part of the broader cultural trend through the 20th century, of fears and concerns with things like nuclear power that pushed society into the Atomic Age. (A ton of this exists all across anime, especially after Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and more generally in Western literature and media as well.) We just take it as one of the standard pillars of suspension of disbelief when it comes to Marvel (for people who even understand enough of genetics to realize it wouldn't *really* make sense). Otoh, those're just mechanics, while how the public reacts-fear, prejudice, bigotry, even hatred and hostility-are all pretty on point when it comes to human and societal behavior, thus the metaphors are all pretty real.
The simplest way to explain how mutants get their powers through the X gene is the way Stan Lee said it when he created the mutants for the comics: he was tired of having to fake-science explain how the characters get their powers. It was easier to say "they've always had them, they just trigger different powers at different points on their life". X-3 had production issues, mainly the director from the first two movies jumped ship to make a Superman movie taking Cyclops with him. So the script had to be reworked and of course Fox had to find a new director, and with a new director they add their input yadda yadda yadda you get the mess that was X-3. The story of the Phoenix from the comics is way more awesome and larger in scope that, even though you described her as almost a god in this movie, her powers were still nerfed by comparison to what the real Phoenix can do. The Phoenix force is capable of destroying galaxies. They tried to tell one story of the cure but force-fed the Phoenix subplot. Kinda like how Venom was forced in Spider-Man 3, same results. X-3 and the first solo Wolverine movie almost killed the X-men movie franchise. Instead they went back and started over with First Class and kinda course corrected, same with the solo Wolverine movies. You'll probbaly like the next batch of movies and become a fan of the X-franchise.
To kind of explain the end basically Charles twin brother was brain dead they talked about him earlier in the movie and when Charles died he transferred his mind into his brain dead brother’s body
“He’s and angel” and “is he some sort of beast” actually make me chuckle
“say that again”
You’ll like “X Men First Class”
This one is probably my favorite
@ this one is my fav too
She won’t. She’ll just be confused as always. She should stop reacting to X-men.
She should react to everything superhero related like she has been doing
Unfortunately the next movie is X-Men origins 🤕😣
Stan Lee came up with the mutant idea because he wanted to avoid to have an explanation for the origins of the powers the heroes have every time.
Made it easy for him to create new characters.
It's as simple as that.
You can be a mutant for the same reason you have red hair or odd eyes.
The numbers of mutant is potentially gigantic among people but not all powers are great nor powerful ou useful.
They can be insignifiant.
Hero or villain mutants we see in movies that take actions are the one with the mighty or interesting powers.
Pyro getting schooled by Magneto about prof X, is something that all younger generations should watch.
Magneto explaining his view on tattoos to the younger generation was serious BD energy.
The thing with Jean was that all her powers weren't just from her mutation, naturally she was a telepath and had powers of telekinesis. But she was greatly enhanced by the entity known as the Phoenix Force. There is quite a story behind her becoming the vessel of the Phoenix, it's a shame they never fully covered that in the movies.
It does make sense for Wolverine to kill Jean... she's prove to be unstable and violent, she can eviscerate people in seconds. Yes she has moments of clarity but the risk of her turning destructive again was very high. In the moment its the best option. A lot of people made a lot of mistakes that led to Jean being maniacal
plus Jean probably disintegrated any of the cure left on the ground and if Logan was carrying a syringe it would of been disintegrated before he got to her
Also the cure probably wouldn't completely work on her because the Phoenix Force is basically a cosmic entity.
also leech (little boy in white) cannot stop jean because the phoenix is a cosmic entity and he can only suppress mutant abilities)
Keep doing you, and keep being yourself. I've been watching your Marvel reactions for a while, and the best part of everything is the empathy that we can see on you all the time. When you can't think of what to say, and have a hard time articulating your thoughts into words, it's okay because you are a feeler, and not a thinker. I like watching your reactions because I'm the same way
Your post film discussion: Supposedly Eric (Magneto) is a good chess player, because he and Charles have been playing for decades. Chess is a strategy game - you have to think many moves ahead and how the other player can counter your moves. But in the fight for mutant rights, he falls back on the simple plan of rousing his followers with speeches and then a mass attack. Revolutionaries have done that for centuries, and more often than not the revolution fails. I call that a fatal plot flaw.
You're smart, Stef. You have questions. Most people watch movies like this, eat their popcorn, enjoy the fights and romance angles, and don't think too hard about whether it all makes sense.
The science of mutants:
First, keep in mind these movies are based on comic book characters. None of these powers are based in reality.
Every superhero needs an origin story that explains why they are different than regular people. For Iron Man, Tony and his dad were geniuses. For Captain America it was a serum and "vita rays". For the X-men universe the mutants have different genetics in their cells than regular people, specifically ones that give them special powers.
In real life, strips of DNA called "genes" are the instructions for how life works. Different genes produce differences in people, like skin and hair color, and also what makes people different from dogs and trees. A change in the instructions is a mutation. They actually happen all the time, that's how life evolves. But in real life we don't get super powers from them.
So yes the X-Gene is what causes the mutations but the first 3 movied never really go to deep into the explanation, maybe comic book movies were still not that popular so they kept big comic book explanations out of the movies so the most casual person could go see it.
Anyway the comics do explain the science way better and sk do future movies as well but its okay to explain it, its no spoilers
The gene came into existence the same way evolution works, a mutation in a person causes a change, often small and unnoticible but over millions of years an ape can go from ape to human. The gene happens in humans and is pretty much just recessive. A lot of people have the gene (passed down from their ancestors and parents) but most of the time the gene never actives in people.
The powers manifest only in situations or environments that need the gene to activate, often in a time of distress and the need for survival. An abusive home for example. The X-Gene then activates and your mutation begins, often relating to your situation or environment in order to protect you. Other times however in modern day its posible to receive similar powers to your parents, ancestors, or siblings if their mutang gene was previously activated. Then instead of passing just a regular X-Gene, its one with the same or related powers, therefore kid having the same powers as their parents.
One more thing I'll add is that Jean did destroy all the injections in that moments all the soldiers showed up, so there really wasn't another option, pressure or no, all he could do was Kill Jean to save her from herself and save everyone as well, so youre right about wolverine lowering the defenses of Jean enough because he loves her but also the needles being all destroyed
Also we see Magneto get his powers back so in the end it sadly wouldn't had worked
in the comics, Juggernaut is Professor X's step brother 😂
Yup and they messed that up in this movie.. the least they could've done is when Magneto the brotherhood and Xavier alongside Storm and Logan outside Jean's residence: Xavier could've said something along the lines "Cain,I see they let you out,with him giving Xavier a grunt or slight nod to him .."
"What's th'matter, Charlie? No welcome for your dear stepbrother?"
~Juggernaut, 'Pryde of the X-Men
@@jebVlogs556 they also messed up his powerset because he's not a mutant, so Jimmy's powers wouldn't have affected him
One of the many fuckups they made in these movies that Deadpool fixed.
Fun fact: Professor X was directly based on Martin Luther King Jr. while Magneto was inspired by Malcom X. The concept of mutants being disenfranchised was an analogy to racism, where both of those prominent historical figures were fighting for black rights, but under very different philosophies.
That's badass
A well-read layperson's understanding: Everyone having different powers is because the entire point of mutants is that they are an evolutionary leap forward. Evolution doesn't tend to go in straight lines or every genetic strain changing in the same way. A lot of the time (maybe every time, I forget), mutation is a reaction to environmental factors. (Also worth pointing out that evolutionary mutations aren't always a good improvement, because it's kinda random.)
A real life example of a survival mutation would be these moths that lived in an environment with a lot of soot that collected on everything. Moths have a much faster generational turnover than mammals and such, so it was possible to document the fact they evolved so that their coloring went from bright colors to grays and blacks, the better to camouflage against the soot-covered trees. That variation of color -- that mutant ability -- was the most successful at surviving (and procreating, thereby spreading their genetic line), so eventually there WERE mostly those kinds of moths in that area. But the X-Men mutants aren't nearly at the point where any particular mutation is the dominant one, and it probably wouldn't work that way for humans anyway, because our social structures don't work quite the same way as insects.
Hope that gives you some of the science you were looking for!
Yeah, the mutations are brought on by a specific X-gene that’s inherited. Many of the mutants in the comics have family members that are also mutants.
I don’t know if they ever say in the comics that it’s recessive, but it acts kind of like a recessive gene. The powers manifest usually through environmental factors affecting carriers of the X-gene.
Another factor to not being able to use the cure on jean is that she destroyed everything on wolverine that was not adamantium or had super healing, if he had the cure on him, it would have been destroyed.
Shame they did not use whatever the lower part of his suit was made from as the casing.
Your Argentine spanish came out when you called magneto "Pelotudo" Love it. Great reaction girl!!! Once you are done with X-men and the old spiderman at least you are ready to go full force with the MCU phase 4. Watch all the TV shows :) keep it up
"I have been marked once and let me assure you: no needle shall ever touch my skin again," goes so hard. Just like his single greatest regret was that Charles died. The older I get the more I'm like 'Magneto and John Brown maybe had some good ideas.'
Idk about this universe, but in the comics Phoenix is not an alterego to Jean, but more like a cosmic entity residing in Jean's body, so even if you "cure" Jean, the Phoenix would still be around. Plus as u saw it wasn't permanent xd
in the comics Juggernaut is Professor X's step brother and in the movie he is played by Vinnie Jones
In the comics when a mutants power would manifest it would often manifest in a way that was influenced by their life up to that point and what is going on when it manifests. Often the powers would manifest during stressful events. Powers commonly manifested during puberty as was mentioned in one of the films. In the mid 80s or so and before there were a lot of female characters who were mutants but background characters. They were sometimes introduced as part of a storyline or as a random student that got involved in a storyline. Then they would end up as a romantic interest from time to time. Their powers tended to be rather undefined as they were just background characters. Then readers started getting interested and wanted to know more. So, now we have some great storylines with Jean Grey, Psylocke, Kitty Pride, and several others.
As far as hitting Jean with the cure. The way she was flaying Wolverines armor and skin the cure would have most likely been destroyed. The comics got more involved in the science behind things. But being a movie they have to deal with time constraints.
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15:45 an ArchAngel ;), but here he is known as Angel.
Yeah. ArchAngel was dope!😊🙌🏽
Angel was his original name before he became Archangel.
In the comics, Jean is an omega level mutant (Mutants whose potential is practically unlimited) who is very powerful on her own without needing the Phoenix. This is because the Phoenix Force it's a cosmic entity since before the creation of the universe, and not an evolution of Jean's powers as in the movies. The entity gives almost divine powers to those who possess it, and in the case of superhumans, it considerably increases their powers. She possessed Jean during an X-Men mission in space, which began the Phoenix/Dark Phoenix Saga, one of the best X-Men stories.
The X-Gene is passed from parent to child, which is why some mutants develop the same mutation as their parents. As is the case with Magento and his daughter Polaris, which also controls magnetism. Mutants are usually born with a single mutation and might develop a secondary mutation later due to some trauma. As is the case of Emma Frost, who was born a telepath and later developed the mutation to transform her skin into an organic diamond. However, there are mutants like Jean and Wolverine, who are born with two or more mutations: telekinesis and telepathy in her case, and healing factor, enhanced senses and retractable claws in Logan's case.
18:36 Beast aka Hank McCoy is fast,strong and very smart,not to mention he has heightened senses
In X-Men 2, Wolverine fought a woman called Deathstrike, but the blades came from her fingertips. She has the same mutation as him, basically
The movie doesn't delve into it, but Jean's Phoenix persona is actually a cosmic entity powerful enough to destroy entire planets and solar systems. So it's not really part of Jean's mutant powers, therefore the cure probably wouldn't do anything to eliminate her Phoenix powers.
One of the major criticisms that fans had with this movie was how it mishandled the Phoenix story. It's a much bigger galactic-level story in the comics, but the movie doesn't go that far, and it even sidelines the Phoenix story to give time to the seemingly separate plot about the mutant cure.
ya, I was really disappointed in how they handled her and Phoenix. She's a really interesting character and you could do SOOO much with her character!
And also the needle of the cure would get trough those attack. Logan in adamantium barely made it to get close to her. So the plastic and the needle wouldn’t be possible 😉
Awesome video Stef. This X-Men doesn't get alot of love, but i thought it was brilliant. And it has my favorite X-Men character and villian Pyro. 🥰🙌🏽
Science: the pursuit of truth.
Wolverine is one of the most popular X-men...
What's true is that he was a mutant before he was a soldier.
2:30 - "With X-Men, it feels like it would be a never ending story."
Comic book fans: "Well, they made the first comic book in the 1960s, and they're still making stories today."
Never-ending stories being the appeal of comic books...
stef, stan lee created the Xmen in the 1960s after the us had just used the atomic bomb for the first time in world war 2, and he called the Xmen the children of the atom, meaning he thought the nuclear explosions around the world mutated either everyone or just certain people and it went from there, and stan thought radiation caused the mutant phenomena
This, but also: the idea of Mutants was hit upon as a simple way to explain the powers of lots of characters at once: a common 'origin story' that didn't require coming up with a new explanation every time they introduced a new hero or villain.
In the comics, Juggernaut is not a mutant. He is Xavier's half brother who during the war found a mystical gem that gave him powers. The Stone of Cyttorak is a very powerful mystical artifact, which transforms the user into the avatar of the God of Destruction, Cyttorak. The avatar gains super strength capable of rivaling the Hulk, invulnerability and the ability to survive without oxygen or food. He is also known as 'The Unstoppable Juggernaut' because once he gains momentum, nothing can stop him.
36:21 wolverine has learned thank to Magento😂😂😂😂😂
Whoa, never been this fast to a Stef drop lol. Hope you had a wonderful Christmas. Have a Happy New Year. I like this one a lot. Jean being Dark Phoenix was amazing. So sad seeing Charles go :( Nice reaction. Can't wait for you to watch the prequels. I suggest The Neverending Story (1984).
I hope she watches the neverending story 🥺🙏
Yay you met my favorite Mutant, Beast! The real Beast, handsomely portrayed by Kelsey Grammer(Frasier Crane, Sideshow Bob)
To answer many of the question you had about this movie, I offer this simple answer -- the movie was very badly written. Every single thing you asked about, particularly about using The Cure on Jean rather than impaling her, were completely valid. Sadly, this movie did a very poor job of delivering a story that made any sense.
The source material had a very different story concerning Jean Grey and how she became The Phoenix. The X-Men had found themselves on a mission in space. They found themselves in the path of a massive solar flare whose radiation would kill anyone who wasn't in the ship's shielded area. Jean forced everyone into it and locked them in while she remained at the controls to guide the ship back into the atmosphere while using her powers to hold off the radiation long enough to get through the storm and get the ship back on the ground. After crash landing in Jamaica Bay near New York, the team assumed Jean had died. What had happened to her was as she was dying, a cosmic entity called The Phoenix took note of what she was doing and determined Jean would be a suitable host. The godlike being bonded with Jean Grey and she was "reborn" as Phoenix. As a result, her telekinetic and telepathic powers went through the roof, putting her in the same power league as Captain Marvel. What followed afterwards was some of the best stories X-Men had ever had and came to be known as "The Phoenix Saga" where her power began to corrupt her and she went from being a hero to "Dark Phoenix".
This movie, on the other hand, ignored most of that history and rewrote everything, preserving only the names of the characters. I get that filmmakers have to adapt the source material in order to make a watchable film. Peter Jackson did it with "The Lord of the Rings". Richard Donner did it with "Superman". Ron Howard did it with "Apollo 13". But what Brett Ratner and Simon Kinberg did with the Phoenix Saga is unforgivable. The worst part of it was that Kinberg was given a second shot to do this story with "X-Men: Dark Phoenix" in 2019 .... and it was WORSE!! He had 13 years to take in all the things he screwed up with this movie and proceeded to film an even worse telling of the story. It's frustrating
The Phoenix is the most powerful entity in the Marvel Universe, or rather, one of the two most powerful characters in the Marvel Universe. The other character who equals its power is Wanda (Scarlet Witch).
Angel and Beast were 2 of the 5 original X-Men when Stan Lee and Jack Kirby created the Marvel comic book in 1963.
Good guessing!
Despite the utter disrespect for the source material of Phoenix, juggernaut and cyclops I do think this is a pretty entertaining movie.
23:07 es cierto que charles y eric se enemistaron por sus ideales.. pero incluso magneto aun le tenia respeto y estima hacia quien fue su amigo... eric jamas hubiera querido que algo asi sucediera, dandose cuenta que si NO CONTROLABA a jean... ella causaria una masacre mundial por su cuenta
I've grown to like X-Men the last stand over the years
37:04 Stef: "ho la m..." best comment ever
15:41 that's Warren's codename "Angel" 🕊
The fans hated the movie because the Phoenix Saga should have been on the level of Infinity War, with the Phoenix Force being one of the most powerful entities in the universe, capable of destroying entire planets, magnitudes more powerful than Thanos or Scarlet Witch, but instead we got... this.
Well, Wolverine was practically naked by the time he made it to Jean. Its safe to assume, if he had the "cure", it wouldve been vaporized and he wouldve had to kill her anyway.
Also, the X-Gene shows differently in everyone. A lot of mutants have such minor mutations that dont really do much. Plus, it was the 6 X-Men PLUS a bunch of soldiers who can immediately take their powers away, so the Brotherhood attacked all at once to try and overwhelm them.
"Evil B*?! Sorry" that's the best quote
You better continue with the next Xmen movies to answer your questions
Bobby is just a person trying make sure no is sad, being a great guy not a cheater...
How could you use the kid to stop Jean if ANYONE in sight Jean was pulverized? That’s the reason for Wolverine to be the one that had a chance to come close, since he could heal (barely) in time to keep coming closer to Jean.
Ms. Solari thank u for reacting to this movie its nice movie ❤❤❤
The science behind the mutants is that Stan Lee got tired of coming up with new origin stories to explain why so and so had super powers so he was like eh these guys are born with them.
Regarding the mutant class/rankings you asked about, there is but its sometimes vague and inconsistent over decades of comic publication. Generally from high to low: Omega, Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, Epsilon.
Omega levels are insanely powerful mutants with almost limitless potential eg. Jean Grey, Magneto, Iceman, Prof X
Alpha levels are also extremely powerful but do have limitations eg. Cyclops, Storm
Beta levels have "simpler" powers eg. Wolverine, Rogue
You get the point, further down the rank the abilities are less controllable, powerful or practical. Some mutants simply look deformed or have useless abilities like transparent skin or that kid with a forked tongue in X2.
The scope of the mutants is different in the movies versus the comics. The movies are limited because Fox only had the rights of the mutant characters and the Fantastic Four characters. There was some cross over of other characters but very limited. So this defined the how mutants came about in the movies. It was limited to gene mutation or evolution. Now in the comics it’s both of them along with exposure to radiation combined with genetic abnormalities and other characters that had superhuman abilities already having children with one or both parents having powers. The best example of this in the comics is the Fantastic Four . In this case Reed Richards and Sue Storm were both normal people and then they got their powers through exposure to a radioactive cloud in space. Later they were married to each other and had kids. Their kids were born with powers this makes them mutants. Generally speaking characters born with powers makes them mutants but there is a grey area in which the mutation is not active and maybe triggered through some sort of event such as the event of the Fantastic Four and it could be argued that they were possibly mutants but not knowingly aware of it. But this is really getting into a whole different issue but for now it simple characters that are born with powers are mutants and those characters that weren’t born with powers or not.
Fun Fact: Juggernaut should have gon through that wall at the end if they used his cannon powers. hes not a mutant. his powers come from a magic gem.
Stef is so epic. Pyro is the most dangerous of the X-Men He makes a appearance in Deadpool wolverine. Pyro is the most unstoppable mutant. 🥋👏🏽
Sunspot is literally stronger than Pyro.. oh and in the comics Colossus knocks him out lol
Stef has rhe best channel of all-time. Pyro is always the most dangerous 🔥🔥🔥
"Doesn't make sense to me" idky Stef hitting that note outta nowhere made me laugh🤣🤣🔥🔥🔥
The origins of Marvel mutants and the X-gene are both complex and fascinating. This genetic phenomenon explains why some humans develop extraordinary powers and abilities. Mutants are categorized into different types, classes, and levels, each with unique traits.
Some mutants possess a single power, but they often find innovative ways to expand its use. Others are gifted with multiple powers, significantly broadening the scope of their abilities. Imagine the limitless possibilities of what such individuals could achieve with their talents.
Just keep watching will nothing more👍👍
Not sure they ever fully explain, but mutants can be any of a massive variety of powers/abilities to any level of strength. For example someone might have the power to change the colour of their eyes, or a lot of people in the real world that we think of as having freakishly good skills or ability, a scientist, an athlete, an actors magnetic charm, a singers voice, a chess player, they could all be mutants. It's a spectrum. At the other end of the scale you have Jean, Professor X etc... Seen loads of reactions, you are the first I have seen that said why not give Jean the cure, I thought that was a great catch lol
I could watch you read a phone book and I'd be entertained :) this is a good one...looking forward to the rest of the Marvel movies with you
Hope you had a good Christmas. You look beautiful as usual. Really enjoy your review and reactions
Rogue had NOTHING to worry about. Her competition turned into a man later!
The issue you're kind of talking around is "suspension of disbelief," and it's something all sci-fi writers have to contend with: the balancing act needed when making some part of the "laws of the universe" (as we know them) fictional and interesting (from a storytelling perspective) while also making everything seem believable and self-consistent. The X-Men franchise has added difficulty there because it's grounded in genetics, which were fairly poorly understood when the X-Men were created, but now are understood much better.
Stef, the Jean/Phoenix's story in comics is epic and should have been told over multiple movies, kind of like how Marvel told the Thanos/Infinity Stones story over many movies. Here Fox tried to cram it all into 1 movie and then added a totally different plot with the mutant cure stuff. So a lot of stuff here didn't make a lot of sense because it was super rushed and they were trying to cram in pieces of the comic story (very unsuccessfully). They didn't do a great job the second time around either.
Now you’re ready to watch The Wolverine!!!
I can help go over a few things here as I'm sure many will do in the comments but hey.
1. You're really sort of expecting to much from a science standpoint. They've effectively talked about it at the length probably needed for a movie. It's a single gene mutation in the human genome and that mutation manifests differently in each human with some developing similar powers and some wildly different. It's just a vehicle to give humans superpowers, and each of these humans with powers are called "mutants" due to this. That's really all there is to it.
2. Logan didn't use the cure on Jean because there's about a 99.9% chance she would've destroyed any cure that Logan was bringing (his clothes, skin etc are literally being vaporized as he approaches her. The boy probably also is dust before he's within range. I know you sort of came to a different conclusion as to why it wouldn't work, which is probably also true, but ya. The movie also did a terrible job with "Phoenix" in this movie which also would be why a cure most likely would not have worked even if they got it in her.
3. I like that you're catching yourself in trying to not "head canon" events in these movies.
4. As a total aside, I truly hope you have someone to help properly explain the X-Men timeline going forward here, because if you don't it does admittedly get super confusing and...sort of stupid. If you don't, I would recommend that you do as you mentioned here and just sort of watch the movies, if you do have someone to explain, great lol.
"She's good" and the funny thing is, it's not Mystique or the actress that plays her that's fooling you, it's the other actors/actresses pretending to be Mystique 😂
49:04 their is a lot of mutants in the comics cause it’s a whole race of ppl with powers so they were using characters with unique powers i assume. But yes most mutants can have the same powers but can either use them in unique ways or just be on different powers levels. Like Jean and Charles they both have telepathy but Jean is definitely stronger than Charles, she’s wasn’t as strong before cause of the mental blocks he put in her head at a young age. The X-gene is also pretty tricky, most mutations are random but they can also be passed down or evolve down a lineage. Cyclops emits concussive energy blasts from his eyes, but he actually has 2 young brothers with energy based abilities. The middle child Havok, can emit plasma waves from his body, and the youngest brother Vulcan is an Omega level Mutant which is the highest level of power, he can absorb and manipulate all forms of energy and utilize it in any way, shape, or form. So the powers you get are from a variety of reasons being personality traits, environment, mental state, or lineage
In release order, the next film in the series would be "X-Men Origins: Wolverine"...
So i had actually never really thought about this until now, but I figure Wolverine couldn't bring the cure with him to save Jean because that would probably trigger Jean to kill him straight out or the actual cure needles wouldn't have made it to her. I mean just looking at the power that was being pushed again Logan was so strong i don't think they could have done that even if they wanted. Based on the fact that most of his clothing was torn away along with his skin being torn off too. I doubt a small needle or group of needles could have survived all of that
The Science you're wondering about: Darwinian evolutionary theory posits that all unique traits of any living thing (Eyesight, hearing, a birds ability to fly, a bats echolocation, even apposable thumbs etc.) are all the result of random mutation occurring in new generations of a given species. Those traits will either provide an advantage to the life of that offspring, provide a hinderance to life, or be barely noticeable. Those traits are then passed down through the genes of that creature (assuming it has lived long and healthy enough to reproduce) and over an extremely long time, come to define the unique characteristics of its kind, if that trait was successful enough. If it's a hinderance, that trait just dies out before it's passed on. These comics build on that same theory and ramp it up to 11, into the realm of the fantastical.
First Class and Days of Future Past are both really good.
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Yeah, in this mutant world, comparing these mutants to people with conventional illnesses always irritated me.
Being one of these mutants may have some downsides, but the benefits are enormous in comparison.
Can you think of any conventional illnesses that have such large benefits?
Jean could've vaporized the cure
Hello Stef!😊 You might enjoy the prequels more, dealing with younger versions of these characters.😉 They could not get close enough to Jean without her destroying the cure. If Logan had it, it would have been destroyed as he approached her, just as she destroyed his body. I think you will enjoy "X-Men: First Class" (2011) and the subsequent prequels. Great reactions and outro, Stef!!!🎬👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Terminator 1 and 2 maybe one of the greatest action movie of alltime, very recommended.
The "Cure" was temporary.
Magneto's chess piece moved.
Charles is alive.
If you're looking for the science behind actual mutations, check real world biology.
It's a comicbook film, Steph, science and real world biology doesn't really apply all that much, it's not that deep.
ur now watching the release date order. The background info comes after a few movies. like a Throwback how it all started. So ur meant to be confused watching these for the first time. If u rewatch them u will have a more understanding of whats happening and see other details in the movie. Next movie is a good one tho. Background of Wolverine
Youo wont actually ever get a "cientific background" for the way the mutations work, BECAUSE the whole point Stan Lee wrote it this way, was so he didn't have to have one. You can find shorts on yt about it, he basically said he wanted to have a superhero or heroes where he didn't have to go through all the process of building a backstory for how they got their powers. Since reaserch and info was spiking back then regarding genetics, he thought THATS IT! So he made this universe where people would have a gene that would trigger mutations of different types and thus he could have characters with all sort of abilities and not get bottled up in "how did this happen", but he could focus his creative energy elsewhere!
Though i agree its a shame not to have more detail on how each their powers works, i myself love knowing the specifics of everything regarding powers and stuff. One of the things i loved about an anime called "HunterXHunter"
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I hope you are doing well stef 🥺 happy merry late Christmas 🥹🙏🎄🎁
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So for the science behind mutants (imma try my best people please correct me on the parts i’m wrong), but the X-gene way back then was inside our genetic code and there was a point where humans evolved and the gene became active (Homo Superior). So everyone has the X-gene but it doesn’t always activate (or like in X2 only the male carries the gene, people help correct me here). And for the multiple mutations some mutants gain all of their powers when their X-gene activates and then there are some that go through another/ a secondary mutation that either upgrades their power or adds a new one but for that to happen pass puberty the stress would have to be very very intense. For example, Bobby’s ice form wasn’t apart of his first mutation it’s his secondary mutation.
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stef, they only found the one cartridge of the cure left, the rest were destroyed by arclight's shockwaves, and they use all four needles on magneto, also, jean would have melted the needle before wolverine could inject her with it, she basically took all his skin and clothes off as he wallked up to her, and he had to keep regenerating his skin
Corazón, le estás dando mucho rollo a este asunto. Como viste al final, Eric no perdió sus poderes de un todo. Él era un mutante con una clasificación muy alta, ahora Jean es (de acuerdo a lot señalado por esta trilogía) la más fuerte de ellos, la cura no iba a funcionar. Ahora... ok, hablemos de opciones, está bien, supongamos que Wolverine usa más cura en ella y elimina la amenaza, igualmente ella iba a tener que pagar todo lo que había hecho, crees que Jean hubiese vivido tranquilamente con todo lo que hizo, incluso destrozando a Charles? Si seguimos tu punto de vista, podríamos decir que Wolverine la eliminó realizando un acto de misericordia, sacándola de su miseria de una buena vez por todas. En fin, entiendo lo que tratas de decir pero digamos que el riesgo de tener a Jean con vida era muy alto. Sigue viendo las demás películas, sí, en algún momento hay cosas que uno como que no le encuentra un sentido muy sólido, pero a la final son visiones de los directores basadas en algunos cómics. Algunos les encanta, otros no tanto, pero de igual manera son bien entretenidas. Feliz Año 🎉 Chamita 😘🎉🙏🏼
ANGEL is his name, you nailed it!
The cure wouldn’t have done anything for Jean because her mutation wasn’t the problem. The movie never really explains the Phoenix Force but basically it’s an entity more powerful than the Infinity Gauntlet and pretty much liked the freedom that came with possessing Jean. The curing of her mutant powers wouldn’t done anything
The cure likely would not have worked on Jean or only temporarily as she was one of the only level 5 (highly powerful) mutant. More powerful than Charles and Magneto. Also, technically the Phoenix is not a mutant. I know the movies took some liberty with the story but the Phoenix is a cosmic entity living inside Jean therefor the cure would do nothing to stop the Phoenix which enhances her powers, and enhances her mutation.
When the right time comes... remember this title...
'X-MEN: Days of Future-Past ( The Rogue Cut ) - 2014
Pyro is most bad ass. His ability to us fire. PYRO DEADPOOL WOLVERINE. VS PYRO. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
44:25 in magnetos army are many mutants in rage, brutal and don't want to work with others. the x-men are trained to work together.
45:07 he can't use the cure. the boy and the cure-bullets whould be destroyed on the way to her. did you see wulverines skin and bones?
// I don't understand why you say so often that thinks don't make sence or does you are confused. at the moments you don't have all details. mostly later in the movies/episodes you get more details/reviels. without more details I can imagin many possible explanations for thinks that happens.
My God Stef... CLEAN YOUR ROOM!!!!!!!!
Steph please, for the love of the Almighty, change the battery in the smoke detector
Pyro is the dangerous mutant. 🔥🔥🔥
I actually win fights. In the world . Stef is phenomenal. ♥️🙌🏽
Wolverine couldn't use the cure on Jean because he would've never got close enough to her with it as she was trying to vaporise him it would've just destroyed the cure in his had so him killing her was really the only option.. Keep up the X-men series as they keep getting better.
I know the Juggernaut from somewhere... yes, you've seen Deadpool 2.
Yeah, in the canon of Marvel, "mutation", in terms of all these amazingly exotic and superhuman powers and abilities, is determined by a single gene they refer to as "the X-gene". Genetically that doesn't make a whole lotta sense. Mosta these powers and immunities involve physiological differences from a wide range of parts of the body. We know, to the extent such mutations would even be feasible, that those are all controlled by completely different sets of genes from all across the genome. At least, we understand that *today*.
But remember: X-Men was created back in 1963, and even just the basic helical structure of DNA was only first being discovered 10 years before. This is kinda what Stan Lee and creators were able to creatively imagine back during those years. We just have to treat it as a narrative conceit, one that's part of the broader cultural trend through the 20th century, of fears and concerns with things like nuclear power that pushed society into the Atomic Age. (A ton of this exists all across anime, especially after Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and more generally in Western literature and media as well.) We just take it as one of the standard pillars of suspension of disbelief when it comes to Marvel (for people who even understand enough of genetics to realize it wouldn't *really* make sense). Otoh, those're just mechanics, while how the public reacts-fear, prejudice, bigotry, even hatred and hostility-are all pretty on point when it comes to human and societal behavior, thus the metaphors are all pretty real.
The simplest way to explain how mutants get their powers through the X gene is the way Stan Lee said it when he created the mutants for the comics: he was tired of having to fake-science explain how the characters get their powers. It was easier to say "they've always had them, they just trigger different powers at different points on their life".
X-3 had production issues, mainly the director from the first two movies jumped ship to make a Superman movie taking Cyclops with him. So the script had to be reworked and of course Fox had to find a new director, and with a new director they add their input yadda yadda yadda you get the mess that was X-3.
The story of the Phoenix from the comics is way more awesome and larger in scope that, even though you described her as almost a god in this movie, her powers were still nerfed by comparison to what the real Phoenix can do. The Phoenix force is capable of destroying galaxies. They tried to tell one story of the cure but force-fed the Phoenix subplot. Kinda like how Venom was forced in Spider-Man 3, same results.
X-3 and the first solo Wolverine movie almost killed the X-men movie franchise. Instead they went back and started over with First Class and kinda course corrected, same with the solo Wolverine movies. You'll probbaly like the next batch of movies and become a fan of the X-franchise.
yay I was waiting for this reaction 🥹🙏
To kind of explain the end basically Charles twin brother was brain dead they talked about him earlier in the movie and when Charles died he transferred his mind into his brain dead brother’s body