My idea would be put gems on store like if you buy 500 gems for 1wl or 1000gems per wl it will reduce bots and reduce wls as some will use wls to buy gems
The game also simply isn't fun anymore. Even chill community maps are full of p*dos and trolls and the only process of getting currency in-game is extremely boring
I'm surprised this game still alive. There wasn't much quality content on UA-cam back then around 5 years ago when I last played. Good to see the content creation side has improved.
they can actually stop inflation if they want to, but choose to not. as long as illegal seller exists, inflation will continue. More seller = more competition, therefor lower prices on wls. if the only source of wl is from ubisoft then wl will rise, but ofc if that happens a lot of players will just quit the game entirely.
Solutions that I suggest: >Subject the price of WL in the gem store to supply/demand If more gems are being used to buy world locks, the collective price of the world lock will increase, and if less are being bought the price of the world lock in the gem store will decrease to its baseline of 2000. There's no need to increase the gem price of other products in the gem store, only the world locks because it functions as a form of secondary currency. This will hurt the botters very hard. The more they buy world locks, the less they get. >Make legendary quests/other quests require huge tons of basic materials to complete, like 200,000 Blue blocks, or 400,000 cabinets/toilets/lamps. Increase the amount requirement as the amount of people who finish the quest increase. Add clothes that are typically useless, like deliver 20,000 redhair/messy hair People are already pursuing legendary quests despite it having no economic incentive to do so. This will boost demand for mass-produced items that new players can easily enter in. It is beneficial for new players because they do not have much advantage in terms of gem production, assuming that the first suggestion was implemented. >Add more "basic items sink", to further incentivize production of mass produced goods like airvent, dungeon doors, portculis. When more and more basic items are being produced, its price will decrease and people will stop producing it. People will start buying world locks through farming. When the purchasing power of world locks increase, more people will do mass production to get world locks.
>If botters decide to mass produce basic stuff, it's a win for players who farm. They have advantage over the supply of world locks. Plus newbies who purchase world locks do it slowly unlike botters, so new players win.
>Increasing the purchasing power of world lock will also incentivize rich players to spend more of their world locks. To add more demand to the "mass produce/trash item" market. >Newbies can benefit by mass producing for the rich. >More world locks can circulate in the economy, as long as the rich are incentivized to "buy"
Another solution that I can think of is >Put a cap in the number of vending machines that can be placed in a world just like steam revolver. This will make it hard for rich players to grow their wealth to extremely ridiculous amount. They 2x-4x their money without doing anything. According to Seth himself, the addition of vending machines was a disaster to the trading culture of growtopia. (source: I made it up) >Less vending machine, more trading. Trade worlds will be focused more on accommodating traders rather than being a muted world filled with vending machines that only increase the power of the 1% >Vending machines are OP asf. It must be removed from store and added to locke. Make its price subject to supply/demand. Existing vending machines will stil circulate and rich players can save their ass for the meantime. Personally, I think auction shi like that in the PW won't work. It's better if players can trade and see each other, just like how it was back in 2013-2014. Trading was always a social act, vending machine took its soul. The things that I suggested summary: >The gem store is the defacto Central Bank in growtopia. The best way to control inflation is to control interest rates. It can be done by: >Increasing gem price (higher interest rate) -Decreasing gem price (lower interest rate) >By subjecting WLS to supply/demand control, it can: -Increase purchasing power of wls -damage bottere >By adding more incentives to produce products aside from wls new players can benefit by -doing mass production -existing rich players are incentivized to spend, making their world locks flow to new players >Creating a cap in vending machines -control the easy progress that richer players enjoy
I left growtopia at the year of 2019 to 2020 not exactly sure i do check out the game from time to time but i see it as a reminder of something great dying and i get sad now its infested with money makers i started to play the game at the year 2015 i had my old laptop or my phone i played the game on i honestly loved it back then the sounds and the colourfulness and so many more things like the artstyle and the people. The first sound when u hit something or you wore a clothing or perhaps you placed a seed down right? you'd also hear those high pitched sound effects like joining,leaving,adding,emotes,lock placement and when you got your first lock either from someone or working off hard from dirt tree farm it was such a good sound every bit of the game was great and it felt refreshing i spent majority of my time either playing minecraft,growtopia or counter strike 1.6 zombies i watched those old tutorial videos tried out events things that made me happy i didn't care about focusing hard on getting world locks i said hello to everyone and i spoke with them it was basically my first time actually speaking to a person because i never kinda spoke to anyone irl if read the whole thing thank you it means alot to me and i might've written it horribly but if ustill understood what i was typing it means alot to me growtopia is dead and my dumbass is still trying to check out the game.
Getting rid of autofarmers, spammers and casinos would be huge leap forward. Making it required to have phone number linked to your account would make it difficult to have alt accounts because getting multiple phone numbers is way more difficult that just making new email address. I know you can get temp phone number from internet but there are not infinite temp numbers. Ubisoft could also monitor temp numbers on internet and blacklist them. First you would start with only one account linked to your email and phone and getting alt accounts should be still possible when you progress in the game. Not just so easily like buying them with gems, wls or when being on certain level. Better would be doing quests or buying with tokens. If you get banned, that phone number and all its accounts are banned and you need to use new phone number to play again which will be difficult. When there are fewer bots in the game there would be resources available to use AI to monitor and ban bots automatically.
Your solution just gonna make the situation more worse, tbh growtopia alrd doing something thats similar to this and here we are almost all of player base are quitting becouse its so hard to log in, i just installed gt yesterday bc nostalgic (i cant even f- log in using my og acc) and yeah the game is so dead there still so many bots to, almost all popular world is dead, Thats it.
1. Add an untradeable "World Lock Walk Effect", Your walk will display WL's as particles around ur feet and you can have 3 Levels on the item,, WL, DL, BGL. But you have to sacrifice the lock to get it. This would burn a lot of wls from people wishing to flex 2. On Halloween, add the ability to drops wls/dls/bgls into Growganoth for rewards, this would burn countless wls from people trying to get rare items. 3. Add a new name tag that displays a shiny bgl at the end of your name, this is obtained by doing a 10 part quest, with the final quest being "Deliver me one BGL" These wouldn't cost the game any harm, this is just new content that also improves inflation
Best way for them to make a world lock sink is make an item shop which requires you to have completed expensive quests to reach the shop, they could call it the legendary shop or something, and just price a load of items for a load of dls/bgls. There will be a phase where everybody who hasn't unlocked the shop will buy for higher prices from the people who have unlocked it and the people who have unlocked it will see profitability and keep buying from the shop to resell. They could also make untradable items available for wls
Havent played growtopia in 2 years but full wiping the server and giving us a fresh start would bring so many players back and it would fix this ( ofcourse many autofarmers will abuse this but atleast it wont be as bad as it is now)
+ getting rid of the casino items + all the OP shit that Ubisoft added.....But we all know that won't happen since many people invested money and decades on the game so they will go mentally crazy...
I've only just heard of this game, but dabbled in TF2 and Maple Story trading a few years back. From what I learned of how people can get with perceived numbers and wealth, the easiest way would be a special item that "improves" the more you dump into it. The largest owners of certain things (money, funny burning hats, ect) sit on them and dont bother spending those things. Just having a chase for the super hardcore makes them interested on its own, and creates a vacuum as they begin to pull more and more out of the economy. The only downside is an initial deflation period like most ideas. Adding more tiers of "improvement," and other items in a "set" over time may help temper the WL deflation somewhat.
I used to be a real world trader and middleman in a few discord communities (shouts VM in particular that was something) until I dipped out around June of 2020 during the graphics card shortage. I just decided to check up on the game and it doesn't look so great. DLs used to be like €2.20 and now They've dropped down to €0.20 in the span of 5 years. That is excessive inflation. I ditched it at just the right amount of time and made bag. In total I moved around 15k euro and profited about 2.5k not a bad hustle. I'm glad too because the community is insufferable. Having RWT'd with SydeFX is a funny memory though.
I really agree with the license thing. The game mechanics such as surgery, fishing, crime, etc should have a license mechanism. No, it won’t be just a simple mechanism, let’s say they have levels, which beginners doesn’t have to pay anything for the lincese, but the more expert they are, the price of license should rise as well. Of course the prizes would be differs as well to balance the system. Beginners could only get prizes up to let’s say 200% of their budgets, the higher their level, the more prizes would be unlocked, it’s like role quest but an entire different thing. This makes beginners and new players to be able to still do things such as surgery, crime, etc, while slowing down the experts that exploit the prizes alone because they have to pay more to get the rewards (this is also one of the main reason why Thingamabob price dropped so hard).
Jimp,I noticed that no one has talked about the recycle value of wls. What if wls/gem ratio through recycling is fixed on a higher amount(for example 800 gems/wl)? The gem economy can have a reference point,and tons of wls will be sinked by recycling for gachas(gbcs,ss,etc.)
Very good and educational video, love it. But my personal problem isn't the inflation right now, IT'S THE FACT THAT THEY ADDED A NEW BROKEN LOG IN SYSTEM AND I CAN'T EVEN PLAY THE GAME ANYMORE =[
I have a idea called tax event , they add back megaphone and it costs 10dl each , and when people use it they have to have their world tax enable so when they sell something in vending machines they get tax like 2-3% wls , also have a tax on tax items in the shop like add new items to the shop for the tax event then tax on it (tax lootbox)
You can easily avoid the taxes by using the megaphone in another world that has a link to the vend world. Still think all vends should have a 2% tax, this would incentivize players to trade and interact with others.
sir, let me ask this, if it can be content, I want to ask if there are so many WLs that are produced, why doesn't Ubisoft make a paid WL, why don't The price of WL is 0.1-0.2.dollar, so what is the gems for? to buy the same items as before, so what has changed in the store is only the price of WL from gems to money
In my opinion, making WL such a price is quite profitable for Ubisoft and changing the price of WL in the market, this is indeed a violation of the first rule of Growtopia but this is quite good if it is improved and evaluated continuously
Add a open world marketplace, I played alot of MMORPG games and most of them is player driven economy too and they don't have an inflation problem... Open world marketplace creates a space for taxation, I think it would help to sink WL circulation and also would probably sink down some of items prices via players undercutting each other to sell their items and buyers listing a lower buy order for that item. It won't kill the trading aspect of the game, because that is the only way you avoid tax and also It also allows users to do other things and not to play 10-12hrs in a trading world just spamming to buy and sell their item...
This is a study case of what will happen if printing money is too easy. The easiest way is to reduce (if not prevent) people's access to "print" WL with ease. Gems too but it's a core of this game, so it's hard imo. Also, make an improvement that will enhance player's experience is the way to go. At this point, ability to buy season pass levels with WL is acceptable imo (if season pass exists), so people can throw their hard earned money down the sink. I have quit GT from years, but from my friend, the game hasn't gotten any better, if not getting worse from years to years. Also. BAN THOSE BOTS. So yeah, Ubisoft will probably NEVER APPLY ANY OF THIS
I still think that bringing back megaphones thru locke bot would be best option to sink wls. Biggest reason that megaphones were removed was cause of sb spam, but if the price would be higher, like 100-200wls, the amount of sbs wouldn't increase that much and much more wls will sunk. Now megaphone price being over 3dls makes world advertising for new players so much harder and rich players only get richer being able to sb how much they want. Just one opinion but I think it would work well!
Dude, i played Growtopia 11 years ago, i'm 23 right now, why am i seeing this video 😂. I wonder if any stuff that was left on my acc is super valuable right now, or mentioned inflation ate it 😂. But glad to see my childhood game is still alive.
That's just a critical step into a large-scale plan. You can stop the bots (actually, you cannot), but the world locks will still be there, those need to be reduced somehow.
for me , i do think that the purchasing items in the store using wls are very useful since it is already been done but with gems , for example the item of the month , but instead of using gems , growtopia should add new items to the game but only available on the store and could only be bought using wls . and the other method which is adding license for certain activities are also very useful , for example , u need license to do surgeries which need to be renewed each month , but make it reasonable , maybe 10wls each month are already very reasonable , and if its not renewed for a certain months , their surgery skills will drop since theyre not doing any surgeries
I think Casinos play a good role in balancing it? As casinos are illegal and risky, mostly players use many worldlocks to bet for more reward BUT its a 50/50 risky of losing or winning plus has taxes.. And because its illegal, mods can ban them of which cost them their wls/acc to be gone(i think)
I think adding a gacha box that stays all year (maybe change out the items yearly) that u can buy for wls in the store would work great rich people would sink tons of wls into trying to get the rarest items for a profit and less rich people would buy them once in awhile to try and maybe get a medium rare item they can profit a couple wls on
Nothing much we can do its on the economy because of demand and since we are losing player the supply will be lowered and the price will go up there not much we can do to the price especially is a Item craftable and hard to get . back then 1dl is alot but now not much because of new thing happening new items, roles and stuff and the longer we played the more World locks thats is printed on making till it reach to 1bgl, 50bgl, to 200bgl that is printing i like to thing is like a Zimbabwe money promblem because they kept printing money which worsened there economies For me the inflation is not really effect me much because i farm and it cant be manipulated because anyone can farm and not expensive and is also high demand like laser
Delete vending or nerf them in some way shape or form, compensate players for them being removed and that would affect everything drastically, it would definitely slow down some of the bots
I don't think Deflation is that bad for a sandbox game. At least from the consumer perspective. You'd lose players motivated by economic goals but it would enhance the experience for other types of players. You can still build worlds and socialise. Time investments would go into artistic expression not business. It would be like a permanent creative mode right? I'd rather have everything worthless than unobtainable.
The first idea was the best but ubisoft needs to make the players want to trade the wls to them. Like making new item at disscounted price for a few days or hours, cause it could really decreesed the inflation, and they need to make it every year to slow down the inflation. Also i think they also need to set limit to buy wls, if its bad then limit them to every level, but for probably 80++ could buy unlimited that also could reduce inflation cause of autofarms. anyways thats just my opinion im no expert on this kind of stuf, just a really big fan of this game.
i feel like a better idea is to make another world like “market” which is modified to be very tall and fit alot of vends while being organized. sell all of those items like seeds and blocks except for the rare ones for a 10% markup from the current price. So it wouldn’t be stealing too much business from players as if people are massing they wouldn’t want to pay a 10% markup as that can eat into profits. while this could be a price ceiling for things like ssp blocks and other blocks and seeds that are worth like under 10wl ewch growtopia could just set it to adjust pricing based on the economy every 2 months.
The thing with having a 10% markup is that you do not even have a "base price" to begin with since prices fluctuate on player-made decisions in the market.
For deflation you have to tax the richest people not the poorest. Tax for worlds that are in honors or taxes for worlds that has buy + , taxes for some items
This game died once vending machines came into it. I can still remember the funny days when even wooden platforms were an item to farm and get WLs with. Back then you were a god if you had 200 WLs :) I stopped playing in early 2017 after three years of playing. Since then, the game has went downhill big time. All the popular worlds back in the day, like Honor or Sell are now mostly just filled with portals linked to some vend world. A shame really, back then the game was really fun and you actually interacted with people.
growtopia died when filipino casino worlds overtook any creative and fun worlds and administrators did nothing about it for multiple years. the economy is on life support and there is nothing that can really resuscitate it. just let the game die and accept that the golden days of growtopia are a decade in the past when sugarcane farming was meta.
What im thinking is just lower the value but not the ratio, i mean can't we just divide them like, every player dl will be converted to 20wl every player bgl -> 20bgl every wl -> 400 gems also for sl bl hl.. and every gem will be cut off by 80%?? I mean nothing changed the ratio is still the same but in different value
Best Way To Combat Inflation Is To Legalise Casino And Implement It Into The Game Where Players Gamble Against Each Other And A Proportion The Wls Staked By Each Player (5%) Is Taxed By The Game System As Opposed To Illegal Gambling Forms Where The Host Keeps The Tax. This Not Only Would Cause Real World Trade To Decrease But In Return Decrease Wl Inflation As A Whole Due To The High Gambling Playerbase, Increasing Wl Value As A Result.
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My idea would be put gems on store like if you buy 500 gems for 1wl or 1000gems per wl it will reduce bots and reduce wls as some will use wls to buy gems
@@simplegamer4820 Not necessarily, considering the bots could purchase world locks with the gems and continuously selling them.
bro at this point growtopia needs a whole government body 💀
No it doesn’t
😂😂
it would be funny if we could elect a content creator to decide on policies
1924: we'll have flying cars in 2024
2024: tax evasion in growtopia
Naur💀
why am i watching this, i left gt 3 years ago. quality content tho, there are no much content creator as good as this back then.
The Solution?
"There's nothing that we can do"
'Quits GT'
It's funny that this got the most likes and he didn't heart it. 😂
that's what I did, was a fun game, played it since it's release, not fun anymore
Im gonna be real guys there is no hope for Growtopia anymore people only stays because they already invested too much time on this game
The game also simply isn't fun anymore. Even chill community maps are full of p*dos and trolls and the only process of getting currency in-game is extremely boring
All of the idea to stop inflation is kinda good but the real questions is WILL UBISOFT TAKE ACTIONS?
FACTS MY BOYYY
Imagine asking the question
You think a billion dollar company would take actions on what gives them revenue? 😂
No no, the actual real question is does UBISOFT really give a fuck
By stopping inflation is to Block Indonesia players for playing a game racism a solution to that problem
Hecka informative. Masterfully edited. Well done, well done.
I'm surprised this game still alive.
There wasn't much quality content on UA-cam back then around 5 years ago when I last played.
Good to see the content creation side has improved.
game is not alive, the pop is full of bots 😂
@@yum_man oh wow after all these year, bots still dominating the game huh? thought ubisoft would atleast try to solve the issue by now🤣
they can actually stop inflation if they want to, but choose to not. as long as illegal seller exists, inflation will continue. More seller = more competition, therefor lower prices on wls. if the only source of wl is from ubisoft then wl will rise, but ofc if that happens a lot of players will just quit the game entirely.
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Solutions that I suggest:
>Subject the price of WL in the gem store to supply/demand
If more gems are being used to buy world locks, the collective price of the world lock will increase, and if less are being bought the price of the world lock in the gem store will decrease to its baseline of 2000.
There's no need to increase the gem price of other products in the gem store, only the world locks because it functions as a form of secondary currency.
This will hurt the botters very hard. The more they buy world locks, the less they get.
>Make legendary quests/other quests require huge tons of basic materials to complete, like 200,000 Blue blocks, or 400,000 cabinets/toilets/lamps. Increase the amount requirement as the amount of people who finish the quest increase. Add clothes that are typically useless, like deliver 20,000 redhair/messy hair
People are already pursuing legendary quests despite it having no economic incentive to do so.
This will boost demand for mass-produced items that new players can easily enter in. It is beneficial for new players because they do not have much advantage in terms of gem production, assuming that the first suggestion was implemented.
>Add more "basic items sink", to further incentivize production of mass produced goods like airvent, dungeon doors, portculis.
When more and more basic items are being produced, its price will decrease and people will stop producing it. People will start buying world locks through farming.
When the purchasing power of world locks increase, more people will do mass production to get world locks.
>If botters decide to mass produce basic stuff, it's a win for players who farm. They have advantage over the supply of world locks. Plus newbies who purchase world locks do it slowly unlike botters, so new players win.
>Increasing the purchasing power of world lock will also incentivize rich players to spend more of their world locks. To add more demand to the "mass produce/trash item" market.
>Newbies can benefit by mass producing for the rich.
>More world locks can circulate in the economy, as long as the rich are incentivized to "buy"
Another solution that I can think of is
>Put a cap in the number of vending machines that can be placed in a world just like steam revolver.
This will make it hard for rich players to grow their wealth to extremely ridiculous amount. They 2x-4x their money without doing anything. According to Seth himself, the addition of vending machines was a disaster to the trading culture of growtopia. (source: I made it up)
>Less vending machine, more trading. Trade worlds will be focused more on accommodating traders rather than being a muted world filled with vending machines that only increase the power of the 1%
>Vending machines are OP asf. It must be removed from store and added to locke. Make its price subject to supply/demand. Existing vending machines will stil circulate and rich players can save their ass for the meantime.
Personally, I think auction shi like that in the PW won't work. It's better if players can trade and see each other, just like how it was back in 2013-2014.
Trading was always a social act, vending machine took its soul.
The things that I suggested summary:
>The gem store is the defacto Central Bank in growtopia. The best way to control inflation is to control interest rates. It can be done by:
>Increasing gem price (higher interest rate)
-Decreasing gem price (lower interest rate)
>By subjecting WLS to supply/demand control, it can:
-Increase purchasing power of wls
-damage bottere
>By adding more incentives to produce products aside from wls new players can benefit by
-doing mass production
-existing rich players are incentivized to spend, making their world locks flow to new players
>Creating a cap in vending machines
-control the easy progress that richer players enjoy
so much suggestions just for the game to die in the end
@@ferlynnong5764 the game will not die as long as Jimp is uploading vidoes
The content bro cook is so good that all the quiters watch and sit back
I left growtopia at the year of 2019 to 2020 not exactly sure i do check out the game from time to time but i see it as a reminder of something great dying and i get sad now its infested with money makers i started to play the game at the year 2015 i had my old laptop or my phone i played the game on i honestly loved it back then the sounds and the colourfulness and so many more things like the artstyle and the people. The first sound when u hit something or you wore a clothing or perhaps you placed a seed down right? you'd also hear those high pitched sound effects like joining,leaving,adding,emotes,lock placement and when you got your first lock either from someone or working off hard from dirt tree farm it was such a good sound every bit of the game was great and it felt refreshing i spent majority of my time either playing minecraft,growtopia or counter strike 1.6 zombies i watched those old tutorial videos tried out events things that made me happy i didn't care about focusing hard on getting world locks i said hello to everyone and i spoke with them it was basically my first time actually speaking to a person because i never kinda spoke to anyone irl if read the whole thing thank you it means alot to me and i might've written it horribly but if ustill understood what i was typing it means alot to me growtopia is dead and my dumbass is still trying to check out the game.
played growtopia 2014, and now im watching growtopia economy for some reason
Getting rid of autofarmers, spammers and casinos would be huge leap forward. Making it required to have phone number linked to your account would make it difficult to have alt accounts because getting multiple phone numbers is way more difficult that just making new email address. I know you can get temp phone number from internet but there are not infinite temp numbers. Ubisoft could also monitor temp numbers on internet and blacklist them. First you would start with only one account linked to your email and phone and getting alt accounts should be still possible when you progress in the game. Not just so easily like buying them with gems, wls or when being on certain level. Better would be doing quests or buying with tokens. If you get banned, that phone number and all its accounts are banned and you need to use new phone number to play again which will be difficult. When there are fewer bots in the game there would be resources available to use AI to monitor and ban bots automatically.
You just think about yourself
Your solution just gonna make the situation more worse, tbh growtopia alrd doing something thats similar to this and here we are almost all of player base are quitting becouse its so hard to log in, i just installed gt yesterday bc nostalgic (i cant even f- log in using my og acc) and yeah the game is so dead there still so many bots to, almost all popular world is dead, Thats it.
And did bro know theres alrd an ai in growtopia system thats always banning people so randomly (they programmed to ban bots)
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1. Add an untradeable "World Lock Walk Effect", Your walk will display WL's as particles around ur feet and you can have 3 Levels on the item,, WL, DL, BGL. But you have to sacrifice the lock to get it. This would burn a lot of wls from people wishing to flex
2. On Halloween, add the ability to drops wls/dls/bgls into Growganoth for rewards, this would burn countless wls from people trying to get rare items.
3. Add a new name tag that displays a shiny bgl at the end of your name, this is obtained by doing a 10 part quest, with the final quest being "Deliver me one BGL"
These wouldn't cost the game any harm, this is just new content that also improves inflation
aint no way someone made a case study in gt of all games
The most underrated UA-camr imo. Amazing editing and production skills :)
Everythink changed to worst after they added bgls, magplany and Rayman tbh
so amazed with this video, cant imagine how good you explaining the economy in the game, i love the scenario things
I'm so happy someone tried to fix these problems. If all things go well, I might just start playing again haha
Growtopia actually taught me stocks and marketing in advance than my school
w video as always. it's cool seeing something i learned in school being taught in a growtopia vid
Growtopia video that makes you learn about reality
Ubisoft should adjust activity rewards to match current economy and prevent excess currency or item influx.
Best way for them to make a world lock sink is make an item shop which requires you to have completed expensive quests to reach the shop, they could call it the legendary shop or something, and just price a load of items for a load of dls/bgls. There will be a phase where everybody who hasn't unlocked the shop will buy for higher prices from the people who have unlocked it and the people who have unlocked it will see profitability and keep buying from the shop to resell. They could also make untradable items available for wls
Havent played growtopia in 2 years but full wiping the server and giving us a fresh start would bring so many players back and it would fix this ( ofcourse many autofarmers will abuse this but atleast it wont be as bad as it is now)
Yeah it would work, but come on bro. Full wipe would be an absolute disaster
+ getting rid of the casino items + all the OP shit that Ubisoft added.....But we all know that won't happen since many people invested money and decades on the game so they will go mentally crazy...
Full wipe would make every single rich player quit , it would be a disaster and no one would ever say yes
We can buy items from the NPC's using our world locks but those item became more cheaper when player try to sell it
Makes it untradeable then
I've only just heard of this game, but dabbled in TF2 and Maple Story trading a few years back. From what I learned of how people can get with perceived numbers and wealth, the easiest way would be a special item that "improves" the more you dump into it. The largest owners of certain things (money, funny burning hats, ect) sit on them and dont bother spending those things. Just having a chase for the super hardcore makes them interested on its own, and creates a vacuum as they begin to pull more and more out of the economy.
The only downside is an initial deflation period like most ideas. Adding more tiers of "improvement," and other items in a "set" over time may help temper the WL deflation somewhat.
I used to be a real world trader and middleman in a few discord communities (shouts VM in particular that was something) until I dipped out around June of 2020 during the graphics card shortage. I just decided to check up on the game and it doesn't look so great.
DLs used to be like €2.20 and now They've dropped down to €0.20 in the span of 5 years. That is excessive inflation.
I ditched it at just the right amount of time and made bag. In total I moved around 15k euro and profited about 2.5k not a bad hustle. I'm glad too because the community is insufferable.
Having RWT'd with SydeFX is a funny memory though.
editing is "phenomenal".
I really agree with the license thing. The game mechanics such as surgery, fishing, crime, etc should have a license mechanism. No, it won’t be just a simple mechanism, let’s say they have levels, which beginners doesn’t have to pay anything for the lincese, but the more expert they are, the price of license should rise as well. Of course the prizes would be differs as well to balance the system. Beginners could only get prizes up to let’s say 200% of their budgets, the higher their level, the more prizes would be unlocked, it’s like role quest but an entire different thing. This makes beginners and new players to be able to still do things such as surgery, crime, etc, while slowing down the experts that exploit the prizes alone because they have to pay more to get the rewards (this is also one of the main reason why Thingamabob price dropped so hard).
I like this!
its time to give this game a rest..
I would love to see a reset. Everything back to 0
@@hasdagger1916 all the whales will go on strike
*"nOOO0!O0!0N0!O! MY MAGPLANT????!!!! THWAHAYSYZHXBFJGNDN"*
Or start a second server
ty jim im gonna soar through macroeconomics
Well before they try to stop inflation I think they should fix the servers
Really well made vid 🔥
Jimp,I noticed that no one has talked about the recycle value of wls. What if wls/gem ratio through recycling is fixed on a higher amount(for example 800 gems/wl)? The gem economy can have a reference point,and tons of wls will be sinked by recycling for gachas(gbcs,ss,etc.)
omg jimp posted new video!!
Nice video as always
Very good and educational video, love it. But my personal problem isn't the inflation right now, IT'S THE FACT THAT THEY ADDED A NEW BROKEN LOG IN SYSTEM AND I CAN'T EVEN PLAY THE GAME ANYMORE =[
I also had problems but I managed fix it. Whats your problem exactly?
the most stable and heavy working idea to stop inflation is adding cooldowns in most game aspects like store, trading and etc
I have a idea called tax event , they add back megaphone and it costs 10dl each , and when people use it they have to have their world tax enable so when they sell something in vending machines they get tax like 2-3% wls , also have a tax on tax items in the shop like add new items to the shop for the tax event then tax on it (tax lootbox)
You can easily avoid the taxes by using the megaphone in another world that has a link to the vend world.
Still think all vends should have a 2% tax, this would incentivize players to trade and interact with others.
@@toastour ye but when they use in another world it won’t work they have to have the tax enable thing on to do it
sir, let me ask this, if it can be content, I want to ask if there are so many WLs that are produced, why doesn't Ubisoft make a paid WL, why don't The price of WL is 0.1-0.2.dollar, so what is the gems for? to buy the same items as before, so what has changed in the store is only the price of WL from gems to money
In my opinion, making WL such a price is quite profitable for Ubisoft and changing the price of WL in the market, this is indeed a violation of the first rule of Growtopia but this is quite good if it is improved and evaluated continuously
bro is giving a full on macro economics lesson on a growtopia video 💀
Add a open world marketplace, I played alot of MMORPG games and most of them is player driven economy too and they don't have an inflation problem... Open world marketplace creates a space for taxation, I think it would help to sink WL circulation and also would probably sink down some of items prices via players undercutting each other to sell their items and buyers listing a lower buy order for that item. It won't kill the trading aspect of the game, because that is the only way you avoid tax and also It also allows users to do other things and not to play 10-12hrs in a trading world just spamming to buy and sell their item...
This is a study case of what will happen if printing money is too easy. The easiest way is to reduce (if not prevent) people's access to "print" WL with ease. Gems too but it's a core of this game, so it's hard imo.
Also, make an improvement that will enhance player's experience is the way to go. At this point, ability to buy season pass levels with WL is acceptable imo (if season pass exists), so people can throw their hard earned money down the sink.
I have quit GT from years, but from my friend, the game hasn't gotten any better, if not getting worse from years to years.
Also. BAN THOSE BOTS. So yeah, Ubisoft will probably NEVER APPLY ANY OF THIS
growtopia podcast 😭let it go bro its not 2015 no more
martinman?
@@FemboyLegendGDNah it aint him but he recently deleted all his videos on his newer channel 💀💀
best growtopia content creator with quality content
I still think that bringing back megaphones thru locke bot would be best option to sink wls. Biggest reason that megaphones were removed was cause of sb spam, but if the price would be higher, like 100-200wls, the amount of sbs wouldn't increase that much and much more wls will sunk. Now megaphone price being over 3dls makes world advertising for new players so much harder and rich players only get richer being able to sb how much they want. Just one opinion but I think it would work well!
Dude, i played Growtopia 11 years ago, i'm 23 right now, why am i seeing this video 😂.
I wonder if any stuff that was left on my acc is super valuable right now, or mentioned inflation ate it 😂.
But glad to see my childhood game is still alive.
watched a whole video just to justify my quitting 3 years ago
Whole video can be summarized into one sentence imo, "ban the bots"
That's just a critical step into a large-scale plan. You can stop the bots (actually, you cannot), but the world locks will still be there, those need to be reduced somehow.
very epic video jimp
very nice content thx for the video
for me , i do think that the purchasing items in the store using wls are very useful since it is already been done but with gems , for example the item of the month , but instead of using gems , growtopia should add new items to the game but only available on the store and could only be bought using wls . and the other method which is adding license for certain activities are also very useful , for example , u need license to do surgeries which need to be renewed each month , but make it reasonable , maybe 10wls each month are already very reasonable , and if its not renewed for a certain months , their surgery skills will drop since theyre not doing any surgeries
I think Casinos play a good role in balancing it? As casinos are illegal and risky, mostly players use many worldlocks to bet for more reward BUT its a 50/50 risky of losing or winning plus has taxes.. And because its illegal, mods can ban them of which cost them their wls/acc to be gone(i think)
I think adding a gacha box that stays all year (maybe change out the items yearly) that u can buy for wls in the store would work great rich people would sink tons of wls into trying to get the rarest items for a profit and less rich people would buy them once in awhile to try and maybe get a medium rare item they can profit a couple wls on
bro actually teaching me business
Nothing much we can do its on the economy because of demand and since we are losing player the supply will be lowered and the price will go up there not much we can do to the price especially is a Item craftable and hard to get . back then 1dl is alot but now not much because of new thing happening new items, roles and stuff and the longer we played the more World locks thats is printed on making till it reach to 1bgl, 50bgl, to 200bgl that is printing i like to thing is like a Zimbabwe money promblem because they kept printing money which worsened there economies
For me the inflation is not really effect me much because i farm and it cant be manipulated because anyone can farm and not expensive and is also high demand like laser
Delete vending or nerf them in some way shape or form, compensate players for them being removed and that would affect everything drastically, it would definitely slow down some of the bots
I don't think Deflation is that bad for a sandbox game. At least from the consumer perspective. You'd lose players motivated by economic goals but it would enhance the experience for other types of players. You can still build worlds and socialise. Time investments would go into artistic expression not business.
It would be like a permanent creative mode right? I'd rather have everything worthless than unobtainable.
You can play Pixel Worlds. Everything is cheap there.
@@obnazamypolskichguruinwest9066 lol true
The first idea was the best but ubisoft needs to make the players want to trade the wls to them. Like making new item at disscounted price for a few days or hours, cause it could really decreesed the inflation, and they need to make it every year to slow down the inflation. Also i think they also need to set limit to buy wls, if its bad then limit them to every level, but for probably 80++ could buy unlimited that also could reduce inflation cause of autofarms. anyways thats just my opinion im no expert on this kind of stuf, just a really big fan of this game.
i feel like a better idea is to make another world like “market” which is modified to be very tall and fit alot of vends while being organized. sell all of those items like seeds and blocks except for the rare ones for a 10% markup from the current price. So it wouldn’t be stealing too much business from players as if people are massing they wouldn’t want to pay a 10% markup as that can eat into profits. while this could be a price ceiling for things like ssp blocks and other blocks and seeds that are worth like under 10wl ewch growtopia could just set it to adjust pricing based on the economy every 2 months.
The thing with having a 10% markup is that you do not even have a "base price" to begin with since prices fluctuate on player-made decisions in the market.
For deflation you have to tax the richest people not the poorest. Tax for worlds that are in honors or taxes for worlds that has buy + , taxes for some items
This game died once vending machines came into it. I can still remember the funny days when even wooden platforms were an item to farm and get WLs with. Back then you were a god if you had 200 WLs :)
I stopped playing in early 2017 after three years of playing. Since then, the game has went downhill big time. All the popular worlds back in the day, like Honor or Sell are now mostly just filled with portals linked to some vend world. A shame really, back then the game was really fun and you actually interacted with people.
AT THIS POINT WE NEED A NEW SERVER OF GROWTOPIA WHERE IT WAS A CRYPTO GAME!
I saw myself in the video :O
bruh the last time I played was somewhere in 2019/2020 and ewings and dwings were like 10-20 world locks and now its like 30-40
free economy yall
growtopia died when filipino casino worlds overtook any creative and fun worlds and administrators did nothing about it for multiple years. the economy is on life support and there is nothing that can really resuscitate it. just let the game die and accept that the golden days of growtopia are a decade in the past when sugarcane farming was meta.
i remember growtopia when there was no diamond lock and there was no need for diamond lock because nearly nobody have more than 200 world locks
The sheer adrenaline from getting donated free ripper wings was phenomenal, Those wings were RARE, VALUED and LOVED
@@kalppi_chou 2014 ah era lmao.... love those times
What im thinking is just lower the value but not the ratio, i mean can't we just divide them like, every player dl will be converted to 20wl every player bgl -> 20bgl every wl -> 400 gems also for sl bl hl.. and every gem will be cut off by 80%?? I mean nothing changed the ratio is still the same but in different value
nice content!
inflation becoming a problem in the game i played when i was 9 wasn't on my 2024 predictions
Add effects that can buy with wl and make casino world enter prices and make them legal in growtopia
I know people would get angry if this was added, but there could be a fee you have to pay in world locks to play the game, like rent in real life.
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'Dilution is the solution to pollution' 🤣🤣
well no matter what happens i will still work on my first fiamond lock 😁
Yeeee its hard for new players for sure
I quit gt at 2018, now because of this video I download it again lol,
Pixel world has such a big inflation
They need to solve the server problems first, I can't even log in
NICE FONT DUDE MAY I KNOW?!
They have to work on the black marketing problem
1wl taxation on vending machine purchases over 50wls would do quite alot and most people wouldnt mind it
my idea is make locke to become wl store, i mean you can only purchase wl from him, and also it has limit purchase, so they can easily managing the wl
Rayman and Magplant update killed GT at that point, AKA ubisoft
What if ubi make their own legal csn which allows player play csn only on ubi world?
Deflation is better than hyper inflation. but inflation is better than deflation,
meaning to say.. deflation and hyper inflation are both bad being at both ends of the spectrum :D
2013 gt player here, wtf is happening in gt nowadays?
or just keep it the same since when wls increase so do items its pretty much just mere numbers
There is no way to balance a game, when the game itself is broken. The devs should fix the bot spam and exploits first.
can they just make the pricenof world lock is 10k gems per world lock in store? Also some of the items
if ubisoft dont want to nerf rayman and magplant its better to change game currency from world lock to byte coin
What video app do you use to edit your videos?
premiere pro
@@jimpnotsimp ahh oke, thanks. Might use it for my next vids.
Best Way To Combat Inflation Is To Legalise Casino And Implement It Into The Game Where Players Gamble Against Each Other And A Proportion The Wls Staked By Each Player (5%) Is Taxed By The Game System As Opposed To Illegal Gambling Forms Where The Host Keeps The Tax. This Not Only Would Cause Real World Trade To Decrease But In Return Decrease Wl Inflation As A Whole Due To The High Gambling Playerbase, Increasing Wl Value As A Result.
This Will Also Benefit Ubisoft As More Players Will Buy Gems After Losing Their Wls Gambling :P
I agree with this video.
entering a "famous/busy/ top ranked" world cost 1 wl
or in the world there's gate/portal like that
Came back to GT and pink teeny angel wings are 1 dl. What the hell mann..
I took my economic class via UA-cam.