DC International & the aborted audio cassette format war
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- Опубліковано 18 бер 2019
- When is a cassette not a Cassette? When it's a DC International Cassette. The odd tale of a Philips' project that turned against them.
The single spool (Einloch) cassette prototype from 1962 mentioned in the video can be seen here:
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The puppets at the end did a really good job at explaining the nonsense that are UA-cam -copyright- Content ID claims.
those chips looked really yum too
I had to look up fair use again -- I thought it should be fine because of duration, but perhaps not.
That bit should probably be uploaded on it's own as a handy reference for explaining how bad it is to people.
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Flippin' Heck (
Mentions another obscure audio format "I have a box of tapes and a player I'll show you sometime..." - YES! :)
That is the complete package of reviewing an obscure format.
Still waiting for this one. I NEEEEEED IT!!!
In an alternate universe Phillips had the only casette format, putting themselves in a stronger position to demand Sony pay licensing fees, so Sony... made their own format. And in that universe Techmoanenstein has just put up a video about the obscure and forgotten "compact casette" format that was only sold for a few years in the 60's.
If Sony made it, it would have started making them in the 60s, but never gave up on it until well into the 80s, even though they only sold 500.
and after cd was created sony wanted philips to pay licensing fee for the videogames, philips denied it so they dropped philips out of playstation project for good...
By 1964, Norelco made the very first cassette recorder in the US known as the Carry-Corder 150, and became more popular until Sony stepped in and made cassette recorders by 1966. On the other hand, Mercury Records made a similar cassette recorder like Norelco with the Mercury name which was more familiar with the record label.
The darkest timeline...
@@YGroadcapitain No. In that timeline Philips CD-i was a great console, and Playstation was next Nintendo console (very bad)
Taking people's chip money, that's pretty heinous.
its almost like youtube is run a a bunch of retarded robots, and few equally stupid humans.
@@TubbyJ420 lol.
Isn't eleven seconds within the guise of fair use, especially considering that was sampled from a derivative work created expressly for marketing purposes to begin with? Techmoan is not claiming that he had anything to do with the creation of the original work, nor is he uploading the complete original work or even a large part of the original work.
@@TWX1138 Yes but he's British - it's called fair dealing over there, and the exceptions are narrower than in US law. He miiight still have a case, but just to get to the point where a judge can say yes or no on that, he'd have to go through the appeal, takedown, and counter-notification steps, and then get sued. Much easier to just mute 11 seconds off the video and send the claimnant off.
But what a wonderful, good humoured (and humorous) non grouchy way to make a statement by Techmoan. I’m sure most of us would just sound off angrily to much less effect. Yes indeed 11 seconds sounds ridiculous but I suppose rules have to start somewhere?
Just when you think Techmoan has presented every imaginable video/audio medium ever being out there, he surprises us with yet another one. I had never heard of this. Great video!
You've stolen my comment!
@@mxcrec Your thoughts are not your own.
How did Jos Jong see this 4 days ago? It was just put up today.
@@jlc38 Patreon
@@jlc38 He is Patreon supporter I think
An interesting addendum to the topic:
In Hungary at the time when the introduction of the cassette was impending, a factory of open reel tape recorders (named BRG, Radio- technology Factory of Budapest) thought that a combo device would help the public's switchover from open reels to cassettes. So they developed the device, the M11. But at the start of development it was not sure, which of the rival formats would be the winner: DC International or the Philips Compact Cassette. So, the prototype was developed for the Grundig standard! They already shown it, there were promo material issued which included this model, but then the chief engineer learned at a conference that Philips will start a partnership with Sony so he thought this will be the future format, and decided to change the design to include the Compact Cassette format - and this is how at the end the machine was mass produced. I found only a low quality drawing at Radiomuseum where the prototype is shown, but I remember as a child I've read this story in some books about tape recorders history.
Here's a link to the device at radiomuseum:
www.radiomuseum.org/r/budapesti_m11m_1.html
on one of the small pictures there is the prototype's drawing which clearly shows the DC cassette (and even mentioned in the caption)
Interesting, thanks!
I just love the puppet show at the end.
At least now he doesn't do that warning of silly muppets ahead and a countdown warning. As if seeing it would make people's monocle explode. :P
Its creepy in many ways...
@@dragonskunkstudio7582 He had to create that warning, because so many people complained about the sketches.
@@espurious Oh boo hoo to those complainers.
How did ighea see this 4 days ago? It was just put up today.
Sony, the king of proprietary formats that are encumbered by high fees didn't want to pay licensing. No kidding.
Then they don't support after they obsolete, that's why Sony has been fired from my houshold.
Nearly all formats are proprietary. VHS was proprietary. CD is proprietary Sony/Philips. Betacam/DigiBeta/HDCAM is proprietary (and so Sony made more money from Beta than anyone ever did from VHS).
video99.co.uk You don’t get it, Sony practically changed its identity every time they release a new medium. There’s so many obscure formats they’ve created just to leech off a few extra bucks over the common ones.
@@video99couk JVC made VHS an open standard specifically to fight the proprietary Beta format. Sony's long history of adhering to it's own closed formats at the expense of open standards is why they are now a shadow of what they once were in the CE space. There was a time that I used to buy Sony almost exclusively. I haven't bought a Sony product in nearly two decades.
@@consciouscool Did you know the last PS2 game came out in 2013, 13 years after the PS2 was launched?
UA-cams "content match" thing really gets under my skin. I once uploaded a vlog of a drive around town, and a year later, the video was claimed. My heinous crime: The FM radio in the car was on at low volume. So even with the engine noise, the wind noise, and my dialogue, over the faintly audible, barely intelligible music, They claimed my video.. I took my video down.
Edit for typo..
Cammi Rosanov Same here. I had a driving video and knew this could happen so I kept a talk radio station on and would turn the volume down. It caught a few seconds of the host’s intro music and took off monetization. This copyright crap has to stop. Fair use and incidental playing of a few seconds doesn’t hurt anyone.
@@MyDailyUpload For sure! I fought the strike initially, getting rather blunt in saying "How in the actual f--k is anyone going to pirate a song when it is practically obliterated with wind and engine noise? Is Guns & Roses and Google THAT gawd--n broke that you all need to outright HARRASS the users of this platform?"
I had no intentions of monetizing the video (or any video I upload) and yet they still were determined to claim my face, my car, my voice, my time, my hometown, my driving, etc. all for some brief seconds of garbled audio over a publicly aired FM radio station. I took the video down and activated an adblocker. (only disabling it for a few of the channels I sub to)
Gawd! I wish Zippcast had lived and Louis Gualtierei (ZC's president) wasn't such a temper-tantrum throwing, man-child to shut it down in an epic rage-quit.
It will never stop. The companies need their pockets to be filled more and more
ditto
i had to do that too. I unlisted my video for the same reason.
Imagine that weird parallel universe were everybody used DC cassettes and Video2000, grandpa is arguing that his Tefifion is still superior and junior listens to music on his new Gmini 400.
I think you'll find that it'd be the hipster older brother with his tefifon 180 gram ribbon arguing for superior sound.
In an infinite Universe, that is reality.
@C De V
"Multiverse" can CERN show us this?
Interestingly that Rolling Stones cassette is indeed their first album (self-titled "The Rolling Stones), but with additional two songs, that were released only as singles and not on the actual album.
*Pronunciations*
Baka Kafka
"Wisse" is pronounced with the 'i' from 'it' and an 'e' at the end from 'one'
Jochem Bonarius
By the way, Wisse is pronounced wis-eh. (Wis like wizz, but with an s sound)
Jasper Janssen
Wisse, pronounce as in Whistle but without the l.
René Didden
Mr. Dekkers name is pronounced as the word "whistle" but without the 'l' sound between the s and the 'e'
EDIT: And his surname is 'Dekker' rather than 'Decker'
Hairy Weasel
15:18 Wis-SUH Decker, with a short i like in 'with'.
Yoshibro26
It's teldec, not teledec
KooriShukuen
But nobody pointing out it's Ohga, not Ogha? Huh.
Joran
Wisse is pronounced Wis-eh, if that makes sense.
Dan Data
Think it was Teldec not Teledec :)
Daniel Smedegaard Buus
The mispronounciation of "the" is becoming more prevalent on this channel. Not worthy of an unsubscribe, but definitely annoying and strange.
Bertje Be27
Mr Deckers name is pronounced: wis (as in WISdom) sè (as in SEntence)
Neil Forbes
And it wasn't "Tele-Dec" it was "Teldec".
nematube
I believe the Dutch pronunciation of the name resembles the German. In IPA: Wisse [ ˈvɪsə ]. Not: [ ˈwaɪ̯si ]. So, the "W" is like the English "v", the "i" is like in "it", the "e" is like in "one" when the "e" is extra emphasized. :)
Maico
The i in Wisse is pronounced as in Fish
Ni5ei
Wisse is pronounced Whissuh (the u being pronounced like in "under")
Tom F
loch in german is pronounced lorr. Great video.
greggv8
There's only two E's in TELDEC.
Clive Pearsall
Is it not' Teldec' (tell-deck), as opposed to Teledec (Telly-deck)?
Wilfred Swinkels
Wisse Decker sounds like wis uh Decker :-)
Kyle Eames
It’s not ogre, it’s Ōga. 大河
Lorin Petitpierre
tiny detail : Einloch, should be pronounced EinloRRR (Ein Loch in German means One Hole)... :D
Christopher Noel
Techmoan: Are you agreeing with Yoshibro26, or disagreeing? You've both written the exact same thing including spelling (capitals aside) "It's teldec, not teledec"
I personally heard you pronounce it 'teledec', but I wasn't going to say anything since I knew nothing about the topic.
...
I guessed.
Where the extra 'e' was coming from, I don't know, but it was definitely pronounced several times in the audio despite it clearly being spelled 'Teldec'. My point was that Yoshibro26 and Techmoan wrote the exact same thing. I even checked Yoshibro26 's comment to see if it had been edited.
ndrew_koala
@Techmoan
03:56 You are INCORRECTLY saying TELEDEC when it is TELDEC .. Take a closer look.
And also it is 0 ZERO NOT O - EVEN THE SHAPE of the character IS NOT IDENTICAL.
One is a letter and the other is a numeral.
You have been successfully brainwashed by people who only knew O from the days
when the zero did not exist on type writers ---
This is how easily you and most other people are very easily mentally manipulated.
Besides all of that I studied Electronics and Electro-Mechanical Engineering in the
mid 1960's until December 1969 whilst with PHILIPS.
In 1970 I enlisted in the Military, where I served for 18 years.
It is critical, and I know as a licensed Pilot since age 16 and a Licensed Radio Operator
that it is critical to know differentiate between Letters and Numbers when dealing with
Alpha-Numeric sequences.
Otherwise serious communication errors are inevitable.
It is not difficult to get it right after brain adjustment getting over the indoctrination
you received by ignorant teachers.
Other that that your presentation is quite good, with good cadence.
Andrew_koala
@nematube
You are 100% correct. So everyone TAKE NOTE.
Reply
Andrew_koala
@Stp666
I pointed this out this error in pronunciation in a comment above, before I arrived at your comment.
The Rolling Troll
(Wisse as in 'piss', with the 'eh' behind it like you did.
Fun fact: "wissen", pretty much pronounced the same, means "to erase".
So there you go. Even his name was magnetic).
Pk Jess20
Also wouldn't he be Mr. Norio?
But nobody pointing out it's Ohga, not Ogha? Huh.
@@Ice_Karma What's the difference?
I'm afraid you've been pronouncing Techmoan wrong as well. I'm pretty sure it's "Teach - Moe - Anne"
I believe the Dutch pronunciation of the name resembles the German. In IPA: Wisse [ ˈvɪsə ]. Not: [ ˈwaɪ̯si ]. So, the "W" is like the English "v", the "i" is like in "it", the "e" is like in "one" when the "e" is extra emphasized. :)
*Techmoan:* Are you agreeing with *Yoshibro26,* or disagreeing? You've both written the exact same thing including spelling (capitals aside) _"It's teldec, not teledec"_
I personally heard you pronounce it 'teledec', but I wasn't going to say anything since I knew nothing about the topic.
>credits start to roll
wait? There's 5 minutes left? His credits aren't that long?
YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS?! :D
PUPPET TIMEEEEEEEEE
Last summer, completely by chance, I had a chat with a fella selling an Elcaset deck at a flea market and he mentioned that Grundig had their own cassette system back in the day, so I've been waiting for you to get around to covering that :D
You bought the Elcaset deck, right?
OMG THE PUPPETS ARE BACK!!!! I LOVE THEM SO MUCH
Me too!
DC International sounds like a late 80s/early 90s soul/dance band.
or you know, a comic company.
It's a bit of an odd name for an audio medium.
Beats International?
It's a bit of an odd name for a comic company for that matter. DC Comics stands for "Detective Comics Comics"!
"Yoko, you are not taking my chippy tea" 💀
It was “Ono Yoko you are not taking my chippy tea”. - but I don’t think many spotted the Ono.
@@Techmoan Hilarious either way
Maybe the the Fuckin Lesion's "Ono" had been muted for copyright reasons. Every chippy tea should be accompanied with a fanfare!
@@timmatthews773 no,i dont see who owns Ono so its techmoan who owns it
Also chippy Tea is not a offense chippy
Tea means tea of chips
@@josecarlossilva6574 Thanks for explaining what a chippy tea is, but who said it's an offense...?
Mat is auditioning for a job doing the weather forecast. Shame they don't have the magnetic clouds any more.
Haha, the ones that used to slide down the weather map on their own!
Either that, or Pablo Picasso is painting from a bicycle.
It makes me think of the S/PDIF (Sony/Philips Digital Interface) connection.
I never knew it stood for that - thanks, I love to learn something every day.
Toshiba link
The S/PDIF was an remains one of many good PHILIPS / SONY collaborations
I studied E. Engineering with PHILIPS, it was a very good Company to be a
part of.
A company with innovative ideas and European thinking.
Certainly they had failures like any other company. Each failure brings improvements.
Had the British been as smart to work in collaboration with Japan in the Motor
Vehicle industry, it would now be a world leader, but the British are inherently arrogant
and envious of others successes, (even though Many a great invention originated in
Britain ... ) Their success was copied by others who often improved on the design.
The great lesson is that Knowledge MUST be shared.
I enjoyed the end with the copyright issue you're having with 11sec of song. I'm hearing a lot about these issues channels are having with UA-cam. Carry on Techmoan. I enjoy your channel and recommend to people often.
hello techmoan, long time sub, you have saved me from boredom a dozen times. youre my favorite youtuber , such a wonderful guy you. thanks for all the company over the years and looking forward to more
That "Take Five" sounded pretty good on the machine.
I think it only really works as a track being played on retro machinery.
Define "good". It was playing slow with quite a bit of wow and flutter. But besides that.....
Instantly made me think of "The Secret Life of Machines". Although that show's theme was a cover version called "The Russians Are Coming".
@@johnstone7697 Well it isn't a hifi really.
Hey Matt. Thank you again for making the public discover another totally unknown format. And I also like your conclusion : closed licenced formats are made to die and the history is full of them. Compact Cassette free licenced with Sony : huge success. VHS Licenced by JVC to other makers : big success. CD shared between Philips and Sony : huge success. Closed formats like Betamax, V2000, DC International : failures.
That's how capitalism works, I'll scratch your back so you'll scratch mine.
Utter rubbish. VHS and Beta had exactly the same licensing model. Sanyo made Beta machines in vast numbers, the Sanyo VTC5000 was the number 1 selling video recorder in the UK at one point, outselling every VHS model, and was followed by the hugely successful VTC5150. Toshiba also built Beta machines, and there were badge engineered recorders from NEC, Aiwa and others. The same applied to Sony's Video8/Hi8 format which slaughtered the VHSC format in the camcorder market.
@@video99couk Never met a Betamax outside Sony. Never met a V2000 outside Philips/Gründig.
@@video99couk Never understood why anyone bought that Sanyo betamax. The picture was awful.
@@MrsZambezi I sort of understand what you are saying. Later Sony Beta machines in particular, did produce nicer pictures. But had a Sanyo VTC5150 and a JVC VHS portable back in 1984, and anyone could see the Sanyo Beta gave the better picture. Sanyo machines were possibly more inclined to show tape dropouts. However I find that if I have a really badly worn Beta tape, a Sanyo will sometimes give a better overall picture than a Sony. Picture quality varies between tapes and machines, as it does with VHS, where some tapes play better on a JVC, others better on a Panasonic.
Fish n Chips: The REAL happy ending.
Not with gravy on it!!!!!!! Mushy peas or nowt.
I thought it was HP sauce! Northerners are a funny lot
@@Tmuk2 I'm a Northerner and I've never seen fish and gravy together. That's some kind of blasphemy right there.
Well, until they content match the *DUN DUN* from Law and Order / SVU
2:20 wow, that was an impressive presentation.
At first I thought "is he gonna green screen that board and add stuff on it digitally?"
But nah, our dude is using practical effects instead of CGI! :D
Also, he diddn't succumb to the lure of making the fish and chips CGI.
loved the analogue powerpoint presentation :D
I have been binge watching all of Techmoan's videos and I can't stop! I find everything on this channel fascinating! Great video! Keep it up!
Have you perused hisvexhaustive collection of videos about dashcams? That was my introduction to Techmoan.
Yes. I'm a sucker for retro or nostalgia. Moan has such a good presenter voice and does such good research and presentations.
the dry erase board bit needs intertwining yarn between the formats and companies
you know, for simplicity's sake...
I think the reason Grundig logo was crossed out and replaced with Telefunken is that they had a Grundig compact cassette player in another room or something. So it's a Grundig tape, but not for Grundig machine. My great-grandmother's vinyl and shellac records were all labeled by hand with respective gramophone/turntable brands (by my father, presumably), so she wouldn't mix them up.
Time goes by so quickly I was born in late 70s growing up in 80s and 90s cassettes where best thing ever for yours play list those times where more magical!Nowadays can you even buy a CD???? It's nothing special today when you can get everything online, don't get me wrong it's super but at the same time all magic is gone 😢
You have perfectly right, man, these days we can have everything so easy, but the magic is gone, no charm at all. In the 90's, every casette tape i buy was preciuos to my collection!
I am the same age remember just Popping in to woollys or tower records and gawp at the top ten , simple times .
I shop around for OLD CDs, ones from the 80s and early 90s, before they started boosting the volume levels to maximum and ruining the dynamic range on the re-releases.
New music I just get from iTunes or from the download card that sometimes comes with a brand new vinyl record.
I guess I’m one of the reasons Best Buy stopped stocking CDs in their stores.
All the major Supermarkets in the UK still sell CDs. However, they are getting cheaper and cheaper with "Best of" CDs from the likes of Dolly Parton for £3 (the price of an upmarket coffee) and 5CD 100 track compilations for about £6.
You can still buy CD's of course, but unless it's some fancy digibook edition, it doesn't really feel special anymore. That's why music lovers brought back vinyls from the dead, that's still something special to hold in a collection.
Just found your channel quite recently and I love it! Thanks for creating all these videos 🙏🏼
Grundig equipment looks so stylish, at least the radios and players I've been able to see.
Yes but the quality is rather meh, the metal parts inside are almost always corroded.
Was watching a documentary on Concord... Saw Techmoan has new audio format video..... Easiest choice I've ever made 😂
And I was just on an SR-71 and X-15 video binge. Much harder decision there ;)
@@DavidLee-df888 when I went back to watch the documentary of Concorde it actually had a nice little bit re the spelling 😉. I never thought about it until I watched the rest of it... Then read your comment 😎
I got confused with the Rolling Stones album. I thought the track listings were making a sentence: "I just wanna make love to you, honest I do, Mona, now I've got a witness"!
Thank you for yet another entertaining and informative edition of Techmoan/Techman.
I've been waiting for this one for some time - picked up some tapes @ a flea market a while back & was facinated. Great video by Techmoan as usual :)
I love this channel so much and I woke up early and found this .
Awesome cassette alternative
You have one of the best channels on all of UA-cam in my opinion. Google has a near monopoly and yet they hassle you about 11 seconds of music. Damned fools. Keep up the great work!
This cross-licensing agreement between Sony and Philips paved the way for their later collaboration on another pivotal audio format - the Compact Disc. Both Sony and Philips had begun developing digital disc formats in the '70s, and both had encountered difficulties. When they pooled their resources, they were quickly able to overcome those issues well before any potential rival formats got out of the lab.
Thanks for your great quality videos. I love your channel. The Phillips Cassette Recorder you have there is the second model to be released, I think! The first model out had a different play/rewind/fast forward knob made out of cheeper looking plastic. I was 14 and got the models you have there for Christmas! For the late 60s the quality was pretty good, even for tape running at 1 7/8 IPS. It came with a pre recorded music cassette demonstrating the Phillips catalogue. I distinctly remember one track by the Herman Clebanoff Orchestra called San Antonio Rose, which was my favourite version of the song, even to this day! Happy Days! Cheers, Nigel Dixon.
Gravy on your chips is indicative of just how Northern you are. Also the battered sausage commentary was perfect!
Yes - It was not until the high bias tape was developed that the fidelity of cassettes was good enough for them to be marketed as music format recorders.
Somehow "Grundig DC System International Time with Fran" doesn't have quite the same ring to it...
#o)
Hope the lab build is going well.
;o)
Just heard about it a couple months ago, expected Techmoan to cover it, and here it is!
Outstanding video! I love this type of history! I remember doing a report at school about different audio formats through the years, and it turns out there were dozens I'd never seen or heard! Thank you so much for sharing your finds with us! You're the best!
Its funny how this video switches finally to philosophy.
How a small, concidered unimportant thing/format changed the things to come.
Thank you very much for letting me think about that!
Once you started playing Take Five at 8:30, I immediately thought of The Secret Life of Machines. I would love to see you and Tim Hunkin in a video together. BTW I’m from the United States. I loved watching that show.
I thought the exact same thing! I have the whole series downloaded.
I should point out that Tim is very much around on youtube: ua-cam.com/video/Nr4fdXtRJXQ/v-deo.html
I love the information you give in these. But this one, the puppet bit at the end was hilarious! Well Done!
You have such a good speaking voice and presentation style. I don't care alot about the old formats, but your presentation has me watching the entire videos. Very well done.
LOVE YOUR VIDEOS Mr Techmoan :-) 10/10!
I am afraid we are going to have to demonetize you at 22:36 for using a sound sample of Windows XP you clearly do not have ownership of.
WOW you started your channel 8 years ago just for this random moment...mind blown
Windows 3.1 though
says the man that has "This copy of Windows is not genuine" in the corner :)
LimaVictor It’s a version of the tune used in Windows XP. The joke stands!
@@rusefoxghost: I had Windows 3.11, and the .wav doesn't sound any different to me. It would take graphical demonstration to observe.
Nice video again! I'm always surprised by the amount of back ground that you are able to find... Makes the videos very interesting! Keep em coming!
Love the vids Techmoan. Would love to see a rant on all the different Dolby formats. As I"m pretty knew to the world of classic/vintage audio.Keep up the good work mate!! Best UA-camr on the planet!! Much love from a fan here in Stockholm!!
Another fun story, recalled by Lou Ottens who was instrumental in the development of the Compact Cassette: When Philips initially showed off the CC to Sony, Ogha had his amplifier cranked all the way up and when they went on to play the tape for a demonstration, the hiss pretty much filled the room, to Philips' dismay, fearing that that had left a bad impression!
Great timing, was just thinking that I had nothing interesting to watch today!
This is possibly the greatest puppet segment you have ever done. Glad you got things sorted out.
I love your vids explaining the history of these machines and the companies behind them.
I think Grundig's decision was about tape speed.
There must have been research that made 2 Inch/Sec the minimum required for the frequency response necessary for music, given the magnetic tape and head technology available at the time. Philips was initially not able to reach the fidelity and playback time necessary for music, inside the Compact Cassette.
I suspect that if thinner tape technology had been available, Philips would have settled on a higher tape speed from the onset.
Improvements in both the magnetic density on the tape itself as well as more effective heads lead to the Compact Cassette becoming suitable for music playback and recording, negating the necessity for higher tape speed.
Two inches per second is 6% faster than 1-7/8 inches per second. Not a lot of extra information in that 1/8".
Man those Fish in Chips look delicious.
Indeed... I'm hungry now. Hmm, but not many good places to get fish and chips where I live. I suppose I can try Captain Dee's? I haven't ate there in about a decade.
You need big chips or small fishes to make "fish in chips" :D
The opening and closing segments have me daydreaming about a techmoan series of industry anecdotes a la lgr tech tales.
Another fantastic video-thanks, as usual, for gluing me to UA-cam yet again!
Copper screws? I need that.
The way the Einloch-Kassette works is exactly the way an LTO data tape works today. I guess that they use this design for LTO. Lol shame LTO is so expensive for home users.
It's for enterprise data backup, anyway.
Technomoan I really like your channel very informative! Love to see those vintage audio that I never think of exist!
I love and appreciate your work as a technology historian, keep on keeping on.
Everytime belgium is mentioned in any youtube video, it put a smile on my face
@@imansfield Belgium is not real
PCC and DCI, easy, even if they sound like ranks in the police force... :P
And careful, Microsoft may claim copyright on the Windows98 Tada.wav... :P
Thats not Windows 98, its the Law and Order DUN DUN :)
22:35 - Fish & Chips, Tada.wav... :P
@@twocvbloke Apologies, I missed that one! My bad :)
PCC is a large brazilian criminal organization.
I reckon DC and Phillips.
There is one piece of technology that I would love to see you tackle one day: the Ingelen Geographic radio receiver. Developed in Austria before World War II, it used some ingenious technology to display the location of each tuned station on a built-in map of Europe (in place of a conventional dial). If someone tuned into Poste Parisien, for instance, a light would light up indicating that Paris was the source of the signal.
If you can get your hands on one, I think it would make for a fascinating YT video. But hey, all your videos are fascinating, so keep up the great work!
A year later and it’s still one of the best videos on UA-cam 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
laughed at the puppet show... Phabulous >_
The "Take Five" you played as a demonstration was playing too slowly. Was it just the tape stretched due to age or the device running slow?
That’s why my Grundig TK 247 reel-to-reel tape recorder was running a tad slow due to the AC motor which was German made. Many of these German Grundig machines was running slow. It has an international voltage setting, but here in the US, the voltage is set at 110V 60Hz, in other countries, it runs at 50Hz.
It's not just the amount of different formats Techmoan has reviewed, but the amount of different CASSETTE formats alone that's staggering. Man, tapes are cool.
Techmoan: it does take me a couple of minutes to explain so please bear with me
Everyone watching: take as long as you like mate, we love it!
Yet another fantastic video, and another lost format. Great stuff; man, this channel is the best.
I said it before and I'll say it again: THAT INTRO!
DC International sounds like a Eurovision entry
As always your videos inspire a web search. Apparently Norio Ogha was asked by Sony co-founder Masaru Ibuka to design a portable stereo cassette player for travel purposes. This would eventually go on sale in 79 as the Sony Walkman. Would the Walkman have been as successful with the oversized DC International Cassette? Great video once again. Enjoyed the extra content at the end as well.
The Philips compact cassette recorder/player is the very first one we had from around 1970. It lasted years. Neat little thing and could be plugged into our German radio via DIN lead, to record directly off it. Also to play back music through it.
As listening to this video I am actually sitting exactly in the old phillips facility in austria.
The Rolling Stones' title is in German. They pronounce 'ph' as 'f'.
Not really - it is a mix of German and English. The German word would be "phantastisch" but they wrote "phantastic". I think it is just English translated in a hurry by a German.
@@EoinJones Very likely, I agree.
Eoin Jones no the german word would be "fantastischen"
"ph" is pronounced as "f" in English too
Another excellent video, Techmoan. You are contributing to an amazing archive of fascinating information. A National Treasure. Well done.
Love the Puppets!! Great video & even better outro Mat 👏🏼👏🏼
Yay! Chips, Fish and Gravy!
That was cruel for us expats who can't just nip out and get Fish & Chips with gravy :-(
@Monty Python the Flying Circus I can and do, and thick-cut fries. It's not the same though. My yearly trip back home to the UK keeps me sane though.
@Monty Python the Flying Circus Never ever curry sauce with fish and chips! Mushy peas are my go to option, but good to see fish, chips and gravy - a proper northern thing!
When we used to go down to the amusements on the sea front, we'd only have enough for chips and gravy. Fish was a luxury.
Vee Macks as an immigrant like you, I just make my own.
I prefer the Marvel International cassette.
The Harvey International cassettes were a joke.
There was a later Dark Horse entry though...
No love for the Cassette 2000AD?
As always, absolutely brilliant. I particularly enjoyed the "True Story" at the end (the Law & Order sound had me cracking up even before it began).
Great job! I love your channel!
I loved this video and as a bonus I am thrilled with how you handled your monetization issue. I've seen so many videos recently from content creators like you, who complain bitterly about the draconian practices of UA-cam's copyright management solutions. As merely a viewer, these rantings and diatribes only make me feel uncomfortable (or frustrated by proxy) since I can't really do anything about it. You handled it great by taking a stupid silly ridiculous and frustrating situation and making it funny. By making a joke out of it, you point out the absolute absurdity of so much of worldwide copyright and usage laws. I loved it!
Yes for you it turned out to be a "relatively" simple fix, but I've seen much worse. When I click on a new video from one of my subscriptions and it turns out to be 20 minutes of complaining and moaning over lost revenue, print outs of youtube charts and graphs, and ranting about their evil overlord, UA-cam I just turn it off.
To be completely and blatantly honest, as a viewer, I really can't relate to the frustrations content creators like yourself have with UA-cam's rules and regs. I can UNDERSTAND the problems but I simply don't feel any emotions or connection to those problems with the same passion. I watch UA-cam to "relax" and enjoy myself. I can sympathize with the "higher level" frustrations of content creators but hearing about it often "breaks the fourth wall" and puts me off. It's simply not the reason I watch youtube.
p.s. I was recently watching a film on DVD with cast and director audio commentary of a major motion picture from a very successful and popular movie and tv producer and director from a large film company, and they had to keep telling those participating "not to sing anything" because they couldn't afford the releases for any songs. Just HUMMING A FEW BARS of a song will get you slammed in some cases. Even the "big guys" get zinged by the absurd copyright crap.... frustrating... which is why I avoid watching youtube vids the talk about it too much.
p.s.s. Completely off topic, fellow "type one". I recently got my first, very affordable CGM. Relatively new product. Extremely EXTREMELY affordable. Approved for complete elimination of "finger sticks".
Oh no, Dad's broken out the whiteboard again.
I'll have you know in 1995 my high school converted from chalk boards to White boards and it was a big deal!
That end tho :D
This channel just keeps getting better and better.
I love that new intro, but I love the puppts more. Please have more of them in your videos. It would be amazing to see a puppet spinoff/oneoff show
That‘s the dilemma of the 21. century. Destroy the industry to protect the environment, destroy the internet to protect the content creators.
Flippin‘ eck, do I feel protected.
Anyway, marvelous job as usual, Mat!
As i heard from my father a few times until the (late?) 60's here in the Netherlands there where area's that still had 110v (or 125v) in stead of 220/230v. I think it's plausable that the multivoltage from this device is not only for use in the USA but also in that time to use in other country's with different voltage.
Same situation was all over the Europe, I have somewhere transformer rated for 110V,125V, 130V, 220V, 240V on grid side.
As well I have heard about place where they had 220V from between phases.
I am very impressed by your ability to present that whole history in one take.
What a coincidense! I took apart a decomissioned Grundig 100L just two weeks ago.
I reacted to the casette lid as it was quite robust even by the standards of the days of its design, did not notice a size difference though.
And just to note, it was a badly fried radio.
First having suffered a electrical fire as someone had botched a power cord connection replacement.
Then stored in a damp basement, and corrosion was rife.
It's shell is now converted into a partial floor console unit, and istalled into a Volvo 144S 1970.
Good you got your fish and chips !
Since the FF doesnt lock when pressed, it could indicate that you can FF while the PLAY button is down.
When the tone control was mentioned it made me wonder about the history of such controls and which machines included such things (and when). The concept and implementation advanced quicker than formats, from nothing at all to a tone control, then treble & bass onwards to graphic equalisers, mega-bass switches and genre presets (all while compact cassettes were still king). My first all-in-one stereo system in the mid-80s was a Binatone (black, with silver vertical buttons) and it had so many controls for such a cheapo piece of kit. I could even use it as a lacklustre guitar amp by overloading the mic input and ramping up the volume (which was a +/- spring-loaded rocker rather than a proper rotating dial, so there was no way of knowing what level was used). I felt blessed with the multitudinous ways of molding the sound.
I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure my father told me this story. Many of our conversations were on the subjects of "format wars" and competing technologies, licensing, etc... Regardless, I think this is one of the most beautiful stories I've heard on this subject.
DC, the mirror universe version of CD.
Oy blin, I haven't been THIS early!!
Your reward for being up early or staying up really late :3
@@SnowBunneh Nah, I'm in the Philippines, so I received the notification at about 4 or five in the afternoon.
@@andriealinsangao613 That also works.
:D
@@SnowBunneh Yep!
Grundig makes me feel old. I had a Grundig TV which was handed down to me by my Dad and it had been handed down to him. it was probably about 25 years old. There came a point where it started to have a picture flicker every now and then but it was fine for the most. On Christmas Eve a few years ago, the TV eventually gave up the ghost and the picture kinda imploded leaving only a white line running down the middle of the screen while the sound still played. RIP TV.
Having a channel with primarily DJ mixes on UA-cam, I am all too familiar with the audio copyright resolver. While the focus there hasn't been monetizing, I still find myself having to manage videos from time-to-time just so that they are actually playable and not blocked worldwide.
I too have pretty much had zero luck cropping out the content of a video, but always could get the mute feature to work...It always looks a bit strange when you have video but no audio, but I'm at least thankful that they provide us with two solutions (with their own pros and cons) that don't involve re-uploading the whole video...