I love this. I use to fly as Captain for Connect Air on a F-227. Love to watch all the those crazy prop lights, and those RR Dart engines. What a complex airplane to fly in the day. Glad to have flow the F227 as my first big airplane where there was nothing you could touch on the walk around preflight.
That initial part of the final approach where he is banking hard to line up with the runway, reminds me of myself playing Microsoft Flight Simulator! 🤣
Brilliant! Happy days. Love the sounds as the engine and propeller try to keep up, and the below lock lights cycle on and off. Many thanks for posting.
I thought I heard air relief valve so I did some checking only to discover the Fokker 27 has:There are two separate pneumatic systems in the F27, a main and an emergency. The main system supplies pressure to operate the landing gear, nose wheel steering and wheel brakes whilst the emergency system operates the alternate landing gear extension and emergency wheelbrakes
F27 was a pneumatic a/c. If the relief valve stuck in flight the crew would bleed off air pressure by using the emergency brake switching it on and off to dump pressure . I recall on one occasion it happened and the crew forgot to switch it off before landing.... oops. All of the wheel rims were D shaped down to the axle by the time it came to a stop after all of the tyres had burst!
@@dahdidah8553 Must have been an interesting landing experience...reminds me of a running landing on a Huey we lost hydraulic pressure due to the pump failing, it's is located right behind my head, I started hearing the pump wining, got on the intercom, and announced I think we are going to have a hydraulic failure.... Both pilots looked back at me with eyes Wide open...circa 1971 Republic of South Vietnam @ Marble Mountain Airfield, DaNang. Cheers from San Francisco.
The prop constant rpm regulator works so. That mechanism setting prop pitch and giving control commands to the engine fuel pumps for increasing thrust. It's an old motor, and there are some delays in throttle response.
The Dart had a single power-lever for each engine (not separate for RPM and power) , so for takeoff, the advance of the lever brought the engine out of the constant-speed range (11.000 RPM idle and low power taxy) up to the take-off 15.000 RPM. If the power-levers were not advanced very slowly through this range, there was this surge (I have around 2000 hrs on the F27 and this is quite familiar). Then after takeoff, the climb power was brought back to 14.200 RPM and the fuel trimmers used to adjust the power with regard to jet pipe temperature ( a JPT of 755°c is a number in the back of my head, not sure if I remember it correctly though). Cruise power was the same as climb power. I really liked flying the Fokker, very graceful aircraft, even though it could be a bit loud in the cockpit.
Rien qu'à entendre le hurlement des ses deux turbo-propulseurs, on sait que c'est un F 27 de l'avionneur Néerlandais Fokker. Ces deux moteurs sont de conception britanniques, de Rolls Royce. Le F 27 est un appareil à la carapace très solide. Il se pose sur tous les terrains difficiles. Il est un bon transport de troupe dans sa version militaire et exellent aussi dans sa version civile pour le transport de voyageurs. Sa seule faiblesse est son train d'attérissage avant. Le F 27 date de 1950/59. Le premier à voler date de cette époque. Très peu vole encore aujourd'hui. Le F 50 semble définitivement le supplanter.
They were probably spooling up the engines before full thrust checking for abnormal oil pressure readings. If so, go back to the gate call mechanics. Thats normal. I even seen 737 do this. Good safety check.
@@LeonelEBDjust wondering though….couldn’t that have been potentially dangerous in an emergency when you need maximum thrust, right now - as in an unanticipated stall situation? Or was it only an issue when advancing the throttles from idle?
Oh, but I’m the opposite! Would love to take a spin in an F-27 if there are any left flying. Fokker built some of my favourite short- to medium-haul airliners!
Beautiful sound!
I love this. I use to fly as Captain for Connect Air on a F-227. Love to watch all the those crazy prop lights, and those RR Dart engines. What a complex airplane to fly in the day. Glad to have flow the F227 as my first big airplane where there was nothing you could touch on the walk around preflight.
After all these years it looks so familiar.... and with the sound turned down dramaticly it sounds so familiar too ..
That initial part of the final approach where he is banking hard to line up with the runway, reminds me of myself playing Microsoft Flight Simulator! 🤣
Great clip - thank you for sharing
Glad you enjoyed it
Brilliant! Happy days. Love the sounds as the engine and propeller try to keep up, and the below lock lights cycle on and off. Many thanks for posting.
It was a proper aeroplane
Very noisy ,but reliable Rolls Royce Dart Engines powering the F27,Fokker Friendship aircraft.
Thanks for the video. I used to work on 27's Great to see and reminisce.
Antique roadshow.
I thought I heard air relief valve so I did some checking only to discover the Fokker 27 has:There are two separate pneumatic systems in the F27, a main and an emergency. The main system
supplies pressure to operate the landing gear, nose wheel steering and wheel brakes whilst the
emergency system operates the alternate landing gear extension and emergency wheelbrakes
F27 was a pneumatic a/c. If the relief valve stuck in flight the crew would bleed off air pressure by using the emergency brake switching it on and off to dump pressure . I recall on one occasion it happened and the crew forgot to switch it off before landing.... oops. All of the wheel rims were D shaped down to the axle by the time it came to a stop after all of the tyres had burst!
@@dahdidah8553 Must have been an interesting landing experience...reminds me of a running landing on a Huey we lost hydraulic pressure due to the pump failing, it's is located right behind my head, I started hearing the pump wining, got on the intercom, and announced I think we are going to have a hydraulic failure....
Both pilots looked back at me with eyes Wide open...circa 1971 Republic of South Vietnam @ Marble Mountain Airfield, DaNang.
Cheers from San Francisco.
@@alleycatvietnam All the best John. Our Airline was Air Anglia and later Air UK. Cheers from the UK
Quando eu era comandante desse modelo de aeronave. O focker 27. O pouso era uma leveza. Como mostrado nesse vídeo.
0:44 what is that noise? Sounds like air brakes on a truck
The F27 had pneumatic brakes and ground steering.
@doug2794 Thanks a lot !
It was noisy and certainly not an easy aircraft, still it was forgiving and reliable.
les cobran x prender el radar ?? por qué no está prendido si tienen nubes ?
Solo estratos, nada convectivo que evitar
Nice Video!
AMEN 🙏
when you put full gas,it shakes on the righ and on the left!
I love this plane
They were proper aeroplanes!
@@doug2794 robust and reliable
They were great fliers and great to work on. Best aircraft of its era and still beautiful.
I flew this aircraft many times, IZ was the only one that flew right. Good news since it didn’t have an autopilot either
Just a touch of a crosswind at Gatwick, eh? 😊
Great👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I was remember Merpati Nusantara Airlines
Is this Channel express
Thanks for posting this great video, what airline was it?
Channel Express, which then became Jet2
@@doug2794 oh yes, I remember now. Thanks
It's engine sounds somewhat like British Leyland Six Cylinder Naturally Aspirated Diesel Engine 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
why the rpm drops on takeoff?
The prop constant rpm regulator works so. That mechanism setting prop pitch and giving control commands to the engine fuel pumps for increasing thrust. It's an old motor, and there are some delays in throttle response.
@@Kogut-95cool! I love the technical explanations.
weird spoolup with pitch change then it goes
The Dart had a single power-lever for each engine (not separate for RPM and power) , so for takeoff, the advance of the lever brought the engine out of the constant-speed range (11.000 RPM idle and low power taxy) up to the take-off 15.000 RPM. If the power-levers were not advanced very slowly through this range, there was this surge (I have around 2000 hrs on the F27 and this is quite familiar). Then after takeoff, the climb power was brought back to 14.200 RPM and the fuel trimmers used to adjust the power with regard to jet pipe temperature ( a JPT of 755°c is a number in the back of my head, not sure if I remember it correctly though). Cruise power was the same as climb power.
I really liked flying the Fokker, very graceful aircraft, even though it could be a bit loud in the cockpit.
TGT was set to 730 deg C
that was a rough landing
Rien qu'à entendre le hurlement des ses deux turbo-propulseurs, on sait que c'est un F 27 de l'avionneur Néerlandais Fokker.
Ces deux moteurs sont de conception britanniques, de Rolls Royce.
Le F 27 est un appareil à la carapace très solide. Il se pose sur tous les terrains difficiles. Il est un bon transport de troupe dans sa version militaire et exellent aussi dans sa version civile pour le transport de voyageurs.
Sa seule faiblesse est son train d'attérissage avant.
Le F 27 date de 1950/59. Le premier à voler date de cette époque. Très peu vole encore aujourd'hui. Le F 50 semble définitivement le supplanter.
They were probably spooling up the engines before full thrust checking for abnormal oil pressure readings. If so, go back to the gate call mechanics. Thats normal. I even seen 737 do this. Good safety check.
Also... With the rolls royce dart engines you need to spool em up gently else the props may feather
Checking that the pitch lock lights go out
@@LeonelEBDinteresting…thanks!
@@doug2794also interesting….thanks!
@@LeonelEBDjust wondering though….couldn’t that have been potentially dangerous in an emergency when you need maximum thrust, right now - as in an unanticipated stall situation? Or was it only an issue when advancing the throttles from idle?
Dinossauro barulhento
Yes, but a beautiful dinosaur! 😊
Crickey, I wouldn't want to fly to anywhere further than Bournemouth in that!
Oh, but I’m the opposite! Would love to take a spin in an F-27 if there are any left flying. Fokker built some of my favourite short- to medium-haul airliners!
What a rough landing 😂