Planning a Wedding in Portugal... Dream or Nightmare? Six Lessons Learned!
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
- Planning a Wedding in Portugal - Filmed in Lisbon, Portugal by Liz Sharma, a Portuguese teacher in Lisbon and founder of Talk the Streets.
00:00 Intro
01:23 Casamentos.pt
02:25 - Check Google Reviews
03:17 - Never Pay in Full!
06:02 - Kill with Kindness
08:11 - Don't Get Married in Portugal (Legally)
16:25 - Go Digital
SUPPLIERS WE LOVED:
Photography & Video: Clickt Photography: www.clickt.com.pt/
Catering: Fora de Casa: www.foradecasa.com/
Venue: Waikiki, Costa da Caparica (contact via Fora de Casa)
Hair & Make Up: Iryna Schreiber @iryna_schreiber
Dress: Pronovias, Dante: www.johnlewis.com/
Bridesmaids dresses: John Lewis: www.johnlewis.com/
Men's suits: Indochino: www.indochino.com/
Flower garlands: / keralalisboa
Food donation: re-food.org/nucleos/portugal/...
Almada Civil Registry Office: civil.almada@irn.mj.pt
Translation & notarization: sps-traducoes.com.pt/wp2/
Legal consultation: www.cca.law/en/
Stationary: www.etsy.com/uk/
Printing: letscopy.pt/
First dance choreography: Art, Dance, Love Lisbon: / artdancelove.lisbon
Wedding Rings: allisjewellery.com/
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Thanks for sharing your wedding story/saga! Congratulations and well done. I love personal stories of content creators. In addition, even though I won't need to plan a wedding, this story is actually very helpful to understand bureaucratic processes in PT as well as possible creative work-arounds that I wouldn't have considered (like hiring a virtual assistant and seeking out online options to purchase things you've tried on locally, e.g. your dress). Well done and again, congratulations. Blessings to you for many happy years to come!!
Wow!!!! Excellent video and very useful tips… I felt for you both!!! So glad it all went well in the end.. everything looked stunning and your dress is beautiful !!! Parabens e Beijinhos 🥂
Just came across this video as I am preparing onto visit Portugal. Congratulations on your wedding and upcoming anniversary! Thank you for sharing such a special part of your life with us!❤
aw thank you!
Congratulations, wishing many happy years for the gorgeous couple! Informative and practical video as always, I agree and relate 100 percent of the content as an American married to a Portuguese for 28 years to observe all the cultural aspects you mentioned. And thank you for the CIPLE seminar - ganhei a nota "muito bom", your videos and the online session really helped me prepare! You are amazing!!
FANTASTIC NEWS! So glad to hear the material helped, go you!!
Thank you for sharing! This information is very useful. I am so glad it all worked out in the end! Your wedding looked amazing, and you both look stunning!
Thank you so much!
Parabéns, Liz! All the best to you, your husband and your puppy! I feel your struggle with bureaucracy, it's just never easy and you need a lot of patience. And yes, good lesson for anyone, that you learned the hard way: always check any legal documents very carefully...
Also thank you so much for all your videos! They've really helped with my Portuguese learning!
Thank you so much!
You are both absolutely glowing in your footage ✨ What a special day!! "Nothing worth having, comes easy" 😘 Great advice. 333rd lucky like ❤️❤️❤️
Actually really love hearing more personal stories like this. And have to say wow, only 2k views right now & already like a hundred comments, people really really like you!!! ☺️
Ahhh thank you -- I'm always shocked that people care about this stuff and try not to veer off my usual beat too much, but I guess there is room to share a bit more
Wow! thank you for being so honest. I will definitely listen to your tips, and I'm so glad the wedding went beautifully Congratulations!
Congrats, Liz and Mike!! Wishing you both many happy, healthy years together!! What a beautiful ceremony, despite the hoops you had to jump through to make it happen!! Beijinhos, Jacqui xx
Thank you Jacqui!
The vid we've been waiting for since your Q&A vid
Obrigada Alex!
Parabéns, Liz! HAPPY TO SEE YOU....!!! All the best to you.
Obrigada!!
Parabéns! Didn't realise you'd actually done it already. And thank you for supporting Refood. I'm also involved with them, and they do an amazing job.
Yes, finally! We are so happy :)
Ó Liz, lamento muito o que teve de aturar antes de ter um final feliz. Obrigada por este vídeo tão instrutivo e tudo de bom para o vosso futuro!
Parabens Liz!!! The food waste company ReFood that you donated your leftover food to was actually the charity I volunteered for back in 2017 when I first moved to Lisbon!! Their team are incredible!
Muitos parabéns Liz! Votos de muitas felicidades para o vosso casamento.
Ahhhhh parabéns Liz!!!!! I am so happy for you and your husband!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thank you love!!
Thank you for letting us share your day. Congratulations to you both (Can't wait to meet Harry!)
Omg he's the beeeeest
Congratulations...the end result was magical. May your journey together be blessed with love, joy, companionship, compassion and fun....lots and lots of fun.
It was!! Thank you for your kind wishes!
It was a gorgeous day and I’m so glad you made it through the challenges because it was WORTH IT!
So glad you were there to share it!!
Parabens. I trust this will make me patient in any interactions I have with Portuguese bureaucracy (I'm waiting to get an appointment in London for a Cartao de Cidadao). I'm also glad that I have an advogado as a good friend, and others who would help me out if I need it. Having said all that, thank you so much for sharing your experience, dreadful as it was. All the best for the coming days!
Thank you! Hope this helps manage expectations at least…!!
That’s so great that everything finally worked out for you, regardless of the mean lady! One sees these civil servants in all countries acting rudely and cannot help but wonder, “Do they treat everyone so badly every day of their lives? They must becarrying one heck of a Karmic debt!
Congratulations Liz. Sorry to hear of the hurdles you had to go though, but am happy you made it to the Wedding Day.
For someone considering nuptials over in Portugal, I appreciate you sharing your experiences, and advice.
Wishing you and your husband a very happy future.
Thank you so much! Like I said it was all worth it up hope these tips give you an easier ride!
Congratulations! You both looked stunning!!
What a good video, because I'm planning getting married in Portugal "soon". I think the paperwork with my home country is a little bit easier because we can do it online, even the apostille. Finger crossed!
Best of luck!
Congrats Liz (Parabens) - I am so glad you got through all that insane stress - You are strong woman and you kept your composure (Bravo!) - All the best to you and Mike :) Thank you for sharing your experience of your wedding. You both looked beautiful...😀
Thank you Catherine!!
Congratulations Liz! God bless you! Wishing you a long years of happy married life together.
Congratulations for your wedding! I am so sorry you had to deal with all the stress. I am getting married next month in Germany which is also not my homecountry and the paperwork was also a nightmare... but at the end everything turned out fine and I am just hoping to have a beautiful wedding such as yours!! Wish you the best to you and your husband and puppy ❤️
Good luck!!
Happy wedding! Please share more wedding photos! 💕💕💕
Toda a felicidade do mundo para ambos. Um belo casal 💕
That's wonderful news, congratulations! I got married in Guinea-Bissau (a Lusophone country in Africa) in the mid 90s, and I'm going to go out on a limb to say that that was an even more arduous experience in many respects, but even so, I look back on it very fondly. (To be fair, unless you're fabulously wealthy, having a big wedding just about anywhere is probably an enormous pain.) From your video it looks like you had a lovely time. All the best to you and Mike, Liz! Muitos parabéns e muitas felicidades!
We did! Thank you Jeremy!
Congratulations not only on your beautiful wedding but your success with the various bureaucratic agents. I feel your pain. We've learnt 'the rule of the camera/IMT etc'... that is: expect at least three visits even if you have all the correct documentation. I think it's a condition for such agencies to not accept/grant anything first time. It was hilarious on one occasion when we given the usual "Não volte outra hora" when the 'mean lady' asked "is it your first time here?", we explained it was our third she reluctantly said oh okay then you can have said document. I think I may just tell them it's my third visit next time I need to apply for something! It's exhausting. Glad it all got sorted in the end for you and wishing you a wonderful future together.
Haha good tip! I will try that one too!
What a riveting adventure! How painful it was dealing with the bureaucracy. I was tearing up! But the wedding itself looked absolutely magical! Parabens!
Aww thanks Simon, so sweet!!
Congratulations, Liz!!! I wish for you a happy marriage.
Congratulations Liz! ❤ Happy, patience and wizdom for you both!🌹
Obrigada!
Congratulations Liz!!! You look so happy and he is a lucky man! Tudo de bom e muita alegria!
Thank you! It was such a happy day!
Congratulations Liz ....glad everything worked out for you in the end! Feeling your pain, trying to fight our way through bureaucracy just to be able to settle here!
You can do it Helen!
Parabéns Liz, muitas felicidades! Tenho curiosidade, o que precisou para fazer o casamento na praia? Reservou o espaço? Obrigada :)
Congratulations!!! Parabéns!
I absolutely love your videos, Liz 🥰😘⚘
Thank you so much!
Congratulations! Looks like it was a beautiful wedding.
It was ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Oh my God! Congratulations dear Liz! I wish all the best to you and your husband 🥰♥️ you are gorgeous!!!
Thank you so much!!
Thank you so much for this video Liz and a massive congratulations to you and Mike. My partner is Portuguese and I’m British and we are doing the crazy thing and getting married in Portugal. Firstly thank you for posting the apostile service you used in Portugal for translation and notarisation which is really helpful. Please can I ask where did you get your document of single status. The government site says I don’t need a certificate of no impediment but I’m unsure what I do actually need. Can I ask what document did you use? Obrigada xx
You need to request a search of the marriage registry in England to say there is no record of you being married. Call these guys - it is £100 per 10 years searched: www.gov.uk/general-register-office. Boa sorte, have the BEST day!!
Complaints: I've used that method in the UK! I needed to sort out an extension to my lease so I could sell it. The law says that the leaseholders must permit it, and even how much he should charge me - but he was getting more and more difficult about it. So I pulled back, and suggested I buy him a beer in a nice local pub. It took half an hour to sort, and I had a good agreement.
Amazing!!!
More wedding pics!!!😃
A few more on instagram!
Congrats Liz! As an Iranian living in Portugal for 6 years, I totally understand all the difficulties you have been through. For every step taken in the bureaucracy process in Portugal, I have suffered a lot, I have faced mean people and I have cried after leaving the place. I do not like to be disgraceful but that´s a reality that has occurred to me. I wish people were at least a bit more friendly.
congratulations!!
Thanks a lot for this! My wedding is in Sintra, Colares (Portugal) this year (September) and it has been stressful, so the honesty in your video is much appreciated because I can relate!! I was born in London and my fiancée is Portuguese - we submitted our documents to the Portuguese embassy in London last week but I didn't need a recent birth certificate, nor did I have to get anything legalised or notarised! It took us 10 weeks to get the appointment so we are cutting it fine but we were given a code which we now need to present to the registry office in Sintra and pray they have availability for someone to legalise the wedding! It almost sounds too straight forward so I am dreading more hiccups a long the way! Surely it can't be that straight forward. Fingers crossed anyway! Did you have a celebrante? Xxx
I am interested to hear how you got on with this. I am planning to get married in Portugal and my partner is also Portuguese. Your method sounds very straightforward. X
Congratulations! What a story... looks pretty much like Spanish "burrocracy" ;-). Btw, vão morar na Costa da Caparica! É nosso destino habitual quando vamos à praia em Portugal! Muita boa escolha!
Adorooo Costa da Caparica
Congrats Liz!
Obrigada!
hi Liz, don't feel too bad. Sadly this is more normal than not. I feel your pain and stress though..I had a very similar experience when I registered my marriage here in Portugal too. My husband is also American..you would think me being Portuguese would have helped in the process, but it didn't. In our case, the American postal service messed up... took forever to get the apostille..then numbers didn't match on the translations either.. (stupid me for not checking either)..I was heavily pregnant and few days to go on my husband's last visa extension...talk about stress.. Anyways, I'm happy it worked out in the end and you had your special day. Congratulations e Muitas Felicidades para o futuro!
Oh my god sounds awful. Hope it all got resolved in the end!
@@TalktheStreets thankfully yes!
So sorry that you had to go through all of that but so glad that in the end you tied the knot. You and I share the same wedding date. I was married on 6/3/1995 and we still going strong 💞Congratulations to you both, Parabéns aos dois!
Thank you! You too!
Hearty congratulations for the new beginning. May you both grow old together with prosperity. Alls well if it ends well. And I feel u, it's been my all time policy Never pay in full in advance. Compensation post labor is the most satisfying reward for both the parties. And killing with kindness back in my home country we call it sugar-coated knife. 😂. Good luck with all your future endeavors.
Sugar coated knife!! Genius!
Congratulations to you both, a long happy life together ❤️
obrigada!
Parabens, Liz. Desejo para ti uma vida longa e feliza do casamento.
😍
Congratulations!
I'm an expat living in Cascais, but originally from Nevada. My advice - Las Vegas is the answer to all wedding planning issues! BTW, this is a great language channel. It has really helped me with Portuguese.
If you are american, yes, but for foreigners ! the masquerade will be valid in the USA, but to legalize it here will probably be a bigger bureaucratic nightmare
Parabéns!
Congratulations Liz. Sounds just like Spain. My daughter wanted to get married here but it was a bureaucratic nightmare like the one you described. But it's even worse here as all civil documents can be no older than three months!! The offices tend to open ten minutes late, and the 'funcionarios' go for a coffee after half an hour. In the end they got married in London and just had a ceremony in Spain. I feel for you!
yep that is the better idea!!
Congrats. An extremely instructive video from am honest lady !
Glad it was useful!
Btw Liz can we get a map of where the wildfires are burning in Portugal ? Thx in advance.
We are trying to get married and my
fiancé is coming here in September to initiate the marriage process presencial. Do you know how long it takes for SEF to grant the process once we present all the documents?
Congratulations and best wishes!
Obrigada!
Beautiful! Congratulations to you both... I wish you the most happiness in your new lives together! Interesting about the documents... because of Covid I had to complete the purchase of my little property by power of attorney... the same process re employing a Notary in the UK, translation etc... but it happened! 🙂 Fica bem! Jx
So glad it all worked out for you Jackie!
Muintos Parabens ❤
Obrigada!
Congratulations, you look like a gorgeous couple and a beautiful bride, obviously all worth it in the end. Good Luck with your future together. 🍾❤️🎂🎉👰♀️❤️
Obrigada!
Congratulations Liz! Well done, well survived!
Obrigada Lars!
Gosh! Sounds stressful but I’m glad it had a happy ending! Congratulations to you and Mike. Now I understand where Mozambique’s bureaucracy comes from. It really can be soul destroying. 😬
Yep!! Thank you!
Parabéns pelo o casamento lindo! We have lived in Portugal since 2014. It has many pros! However the major con is the simply awful "customer service" (quotation marks necessary!) It's very true as you say that wages are meager and working hours quite long. HOWEVER - those wages are badly needed and are dependent on how happy you keep your customers! Especially in small family owned businesses, yet they simply don't seem to be bothered. We've had treatment that is basically just rude in small and large businesses - all we want to do is give them our money!! Those working in government offices are sadly the same.
The cause of bad customer service is not low wages but a culture, see ppietra p's explanation, seems pretty good to me. As for "all we want to do is give them our money" it's not true, you want to get a service (which can sometimes be provided unwillingly) in exchange for your money. You are not giving alms, nor are they beggars!
@@Maria-js9ouWe want to exchange our money for services or goods. That is a normal exchange between people in every land. As we try to be pleasant customers, it would make their day and ours happier if the employees managed to give at least willing service. We all have experienced bad days at work but as you can see from the experiences here, many Portuguese seem to be determined to be surly and unhelpful. Nowhere did I indicate that the employees are beggars.
@@mlk1965 Now you're saying the same thing as I did, which is different from what you said earlier
@@Maria-js9ou I also thought that @ppietra made a good point. I think you misunderstood my comment. When I said that " we want to give them our money " I was emphasising that customers are vitally important to every business and should be treated as such. This would benefit the business owners, the employees and the customers.
Parabéns pelo seu casamento🤵👰
Congratulations 🎈🎉🍾
Obrigada!
Muitos muiios parabéns a ambos!
Obrigada David!
💐🥂💃🕺❤️Congratulations!👌🏾 Thx 4 sharing🙏 enlightening💡
Glad it was useful!
Congratulations Liz
Obrigada!
Congratulations. May God richly bless your union. 🥳
Thank you!
Liz! Votos de muitas felicidades para o Voss o casamento
Muitos parabéns! xxx
Obrigada!
congrats! Sweet voice😊
Thank you!! 😊
I knew I wouldn't understand my car insurance document, in Portuguese - but I should have checked the address! My Cartão never arrived. The day my car's inspection was due, I found out why - the car's documents would have gone to an address that doesn't exist. A lot of driving around, between the garage and the Registro, €35 for a 'change of address', and I finally got the right document to get my car inspected.
Ah geeez!
Parabénssssssss
Obrigadaaaa
Parabéns Liz. You and your handsome groom looked like you had stars in your eyes and you were absolutely beautiful.
Oh Portugal... Land of Azulejos, Calçada and Bureaucratic Nightmares. Good thing you plan to only do it once x
Congrats
I believe those unfortunate situations have little to do with salaries or being undervalued. It has roots in the culture, of how people expect some level of respect in many relationships, even when they screw up, and how they approach criticism and professionalism. It doesn’t matter if they are well payed, an employee or the employer, in many situations the first reaction will be to try to shift the blame to some other guy, company or situation, or even say that you are wrong, they don’t like to be put on the line. People let those feelings get the better of them, and you might actually see some passive aggressive behaviour, mixed with inferiority complex.
Congratulations
😍
Welcome to Kafka's cottage!
Does Mike speak Portuguese?
Next time go to Alentejo for "Registo Civil"
:) No need to stand in line for 2 hours there
Parabéns a ti e ao Mike. Sinto a tua dor. Não me deram um nome do meio ao nascer. No meu passaporte dos Estados Unidos cometi o erro de usar o meu nome de confirmação religiosa como o meu nome do meio. Então, para me casar em Portugal, eu precisava alterar a minha certidão de nascimento para incluir um nome que me foi dado 14 anos depois.
Ai meu deus que chatice!
As a portuguese i feel really bad for all those issues you mentioned. Something has to change to ease foreigners life.
Would you suggest getting a lawyer to assist with the process of getting getting married in Portugal from another country.
Yes, that's helpful!
Education in Portugal, and I am not talking about school, rather education at home from parents, family and social envinroment will make people despise the idea of the customer is always right and reinforce defensive behaviours. if you as a foreigner try to address the situation in the typical anglo saxonic manner in an envinronment and culture that is relatively emotional, pushing back harshly will not have the desired outcome, and if you think calling the manager or the boss will present a solution, nope, it can actually make things worse, as generally the boss will be far more arrogant and even blunt .
That said I have lived in England and the USA and I also need to note that the way customers , paritcularly british and american usually address problems does not really work with latin based mindsets ( and by latin i mean where the romanic legacy is very persistent, portugual, spain, italy greece, certain areas of france even). in fact and while it was not directed at me, i have seen how often customers would behave with employees on stores and such and again while those situations were not even directly related with me, as a half portuguese i often started to think that if they would be talking with me in the same manner i would have extreme problems to not blow up and start knocking people around using many of the things I did learn as a private miltary contractor in Somalia, Iraq and so on.
That said because the portuguese mindset is considerably more based on emotions than what one can expect, being extremely pleasant and nice, using expressions as "por favor" " se nao fosse incomodo" and alike will often result in people going above and beyond expectations - a large amount of people will go out of their way to "repay kindness" in a manner than again, is unusual in the anglosaxonic envinronment.
Saying "por favor" , "bom dia" "obrigado/a" isn't some kind of a favor: it's a question of politeness and social courtesy. If you start being a Karen and treat people like if they were your slaves, of course that people get annoyed. It's not because you, as a costumer, are in a position of power, that it gives you the right to be rude and unpolite! Probably Liz had bad luck with the people she encountered, because she's very nice, so I bet it wasn't her fault.
Congratulations, you look beautiful. May you have a long and happy marriage. Jenny Langford
Thank you so much!
Wishing you both every happiness together. All the aggravation might seem superfluous, but maybe we appreciate things achieved with difficulty all the more. From your tale, I think I understand why the cannabis store is situated right next to the government office...
Hahahahahaha I did notice that when editing... yes it was all worth it in the end!
You can complain, there's the livro de reclamações
Oh dear sounds like a nightmare, though not overly surprised as even getting served in a busy supermarket bakery can be traumatic there 😂 ok, exaggerating a bit, love the country. Glad my hometown came through with the dress 👌🏼
Yay for Belfast!!! Haha it all worked out in the end x
Unfortunately we are the proud inventors of the paper to request the paper
hahah
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OK, agora o seu grande sorriso vai se espalhar de orelha a orelha.
Do you feel you were treated poorly because your foreigners and not Portuguese?
It's possible that people had less patience with us because of that, yes. But it was only 2 people out of MANY that we had a bad experience with, mostly people were wonderful!
Our Portuguese friends tell us that they experience the same treatment.
Its still shocking given how much EU money Portugal gets. Shocking.
Damn Liz, he fine 😅 or as the Brits would fit
We face these kind of situations everyday in portugal.Its miserable to be in pt as immigrant.Very wild and uneducated enviorment
Omg I’m trying to plan a beach wedding in Portugal just like this one! 🥹❤️
Wow! Congrats :)