Such a moving scene.. a rare time the movie and the musical were both great. My mom had the original Hair Broadway soundtrack on vinyl and I listened to it often in the early 70s. They filmed the scene w the hippies running at the end in DC and my sister was somewhere in that mob. RIP Treat Willams. ❤❤
It doesn't matter how many times I watch this movie, the final scene where Berger walks on the plane on his way to Vietnam, followed by the scene of the hippies around his grave site always leaves a lump in my throat. A classic ending!
In the original Broadway musical, Claude Bukowski makes it back in time and he dies. Since this movie was released just 4 years after the end of the Vietnam War, the movie was trying to make an impact statement and since I was a teenager during this time period, I love both stories. My son ended up playing Claude in the Revised Broadway version and he learned in that show and playing the lead in the Broadway version of Miss Siagon that war is never the answer.
I won’t be the last to visit this page today. Rest in Peace, Treat Williams and thank you for the amazing body of work you leave behind. God bless your wife and kids. ❤️
R.I.P. TREAT WILLIAMS… 😪 This is such a bittersweet beautiful movie. And this ending clenches at my heart every time. Simply moving & thought provoking.
Raises goosebumps, this scene and song. John Savage's face when he sees the plane taking off with Berger instead of him makes my eyes tear up. Milos Forman made a good call hiring actors who weren't professional singers to play the leads. Treat Williams was priceless.
Strangely, I was singing Manchester England England the day before his passing as I’ve been very excited about an upcoming trip. Then yesterday, I saw the news. I haven’t been able to stop REALLY listening to this song and how relevant the lyrics are to this very day. When I get to Manchester, I will sing the last verse in homage to Mr. Williams. RIP Treat! Let the Sunshine In!!!
One of my favorite part in the movie and to see Trent once again after hearing about his death. His friends standing around his grave sums up all the pain and sadness of the Vietnam war.
First time I was able to watch this in years, one of my favorite plays/films. When my sons went into the Marine Corps, I couldn't watch it.... now they are home safe from deployment. I think I'll watch the movie.
We starve, look at one another short of breath, Walking proudly in our winter coats, Wearing smells from laboratories, Facing a dying nation of moving paper fantasy, Listening for the new told lies with supreme visions of Lonely tunes. Somewhere, inside something, there is a rush of Greatness. Who knows what stands in front of our lives; I fashion my future on films in space. Silence tells me secretly everything, everything. Manchester England, England Manchester England, England (Eyes look your last) Across the Atlantic sea (Arms, take your last embrace) And I'm a genius, genius (And lips, owe you the 'dors) I believe in god (Of breath. seal with a righteous kiss) And I believe that god believes in Claude, (Seal with a righteous kiss) That's me. that's me. (The rest is silence) That's me. (The rest is silence) That's me. (The rest is silence) We starve, look at one another short of breath, Walking proudly in our winter coats, Wearing smells from laboratories, Facing a dying nation of moving paper fantasy, Listening for the new told lies with supreme visions of Lonely tunes. Singing our space songs on a spider web sitar, "life is around you and in you." Answer for Timothy Leary, deary. Let the sun shine, Let the sunshine in, The sun shine in.
@@hikolanikola8775 no, the people forcing them to kill other young men deserve to die, they were soldiers and they got orders, it's not like they wanted to do that, a lot of people are seriously affected by killing in a war
I was seventeen years old when I had the luck to see this musical in our small town cinema. By the scene as Burger goes to war all viewer began to laugh out loud. I could not stand this. It seemed as they had not understood the tragic of that moment, while I had to fight swallowing my tears about this friend who went to war for a friend. So.
He would have done better if he had refused the order and confessed what he did. The army eventually figured it out, so he got his friend in trouble anyway (otherwise, his name wouldn't be on the grave). On top of that, he put the other soldiers in danger, not to mention the sergeant from whom he stole the uniform or the upper-class guy from whom he stole the car... What an asshole!
Treat William era um ator Magnífico. Nesse filme ele mostrou o que é ter Lealdade com um amigo. Difícil nos dias de hoje. Foi para Guerra no lugar dele e em silêncio para não o prejudicar . Que Treat William esteja com o senhor Jesus. Sua morte nos deixou perplexos 😪😪😪👏
I remember when I was in the army marching like this into the back of an airplane C130's when the engines were running full and the turbo prop blast was blowing on us so very hot (not like this movie where the engines look like they're turned off). We may have been just numbers but we were proud and brave ready to do our part. Our innocent youth was left behind.
Not normally the kind of movie I would watch, hate musicals and hippies, but was glued to the screen for this one. The ending so moving and sad, love this movie even though it is heart wrenching.
When Berger (who has no training at all) is trapped like that and is forced to go to war is such a classic nightmare. Like dreaming it's test day and you didn't study... only 1000 times more scary.
The way I always read this scene is that Berger is fully aware that he is going to die. But he does it for his friend, because at least in his eyes he's only just discovered what it means to be truly free, and Berger doesn't want to take that away from him.
I don't think so. I think Berger just finally had one of his crazy plans fall flat on him. No one knew they were shipping out so soon and his ass is caught in a crack. Bad, bad luck.
They were still in use (for training) in 1986 when I entered the military. We had kevlar helmets, but the old "steel pot" helmet with plastic liner was in use from WWII through Korea and Vietnam up until the early 1980's.
actually in the origional Berger dont change place with Claude. So in the original its Claude singing "Manchester". Its fits,but Berger singing it is much more intese so in the film they chose to let them change there places to show the pointlessness of war :)
I know folks hate this movie compared to the musical, but THIS part is so intense, I think it hits HARDER than the original. That being said, I still wonder how they would have known his real name on the tombstone at the end if he was pretending to be Claude?
He admitted who he was. He burned his draft card at the beginning of the film, so he was actually meant to go to Vietnam. The army just kept him there to serve out his time.
The movie is so good, it’s just different. I get how that’s frustrating for people who wanted a proper adaptation, but you can’t deny that this scene’s a gut punch and the music is still great
The first album I ever bought was Hair. I think all the versions are valid and wonderful. The early version is good to set the tone....the film version is tragic. All together is sums up life at that time.
Daina, I imagine some of his squad brothers said, "Hey, where's Bukowski? Who the hell are you? " What kills me is that they didn't send him home, but that's military intelligence for ya. If they found out he burned his draft card they'd have kept him for revenge.
@@juttaweise 1. Nothing in the movie deglorifies soldiers. It mostly glorifies doing drugs in the park. 2. I was referring to the inappropriate scenes.
@@bennywolfe4357 got it 🙂but seriously that was hippytime, the glorious 60ies, everything was possible and allowed. In this film I did not see "glorification" of drugs. It was just part of that aera. And those 5 guys smoked gras/weed as they didn't have the money for other stuff. I'm glad I'm old enough to have lived that period. Today everything has to be pc. Sooo boring!
It gets me every time :'( For those who are confused as to why he died, he received no military training whatsoever. Plus, he was a lover. Not a fighter. Which is why he burned his draft card in the first place. That look of silent terror on his face before they leave the bunker always makes me tear up.
+Sol Sister He died cause of war, not cause of lack of training, that would imply men who had training couldn't die. Which they did. In droves. Although what he actually died for is the tragic effect of him being the lover not a fighter you mention.
Just to clarify that that's actually Berger singing the 'Manchester' bit. Its ironic because it SHOULD be Claude singing it (as thats who it was about earlier) and instead Berger unfortunately swapped places with Claude, unknowing that he was about to be called up. Also, Claude isn't actually from Manchester. That was an 'in-joke' that Berger and Claude had, in the song 'Manchester'
The first woman I loved, I was 19, she was hooked on this. Now, twenty years later, I'm venturing into the path not taken and I really understand. It's really strong stuff. Perhaps I was immature, but I liked the strong male voice of Jim Morrison - and I do not apologize for that. But I do wish that I would've been more open to her. This is something that I would've loved.
54 éves vagyok, magyar nő. A Hair-t 13 éves koromban mutatták be a mozik Magyarországon. Soha nem gondoltam volna, hogy nagymama koromban a békéért kell protestálnom és ennek érdekében ezt a videót a rokonai mmal, ismerőseimmel és tanítványaimmal kell megosztanom,. :(
Manchester England England Across the Atlantic Sea And I'm a genius genius I believe in God And I believe that God Believes in Claude That's me that's me
It was a brilliant screenplay adaptation - and better than the original play in this girl's opinion. Far more emotionally impacting. Yes - I've seen both - in the theater and theatre.
This reminds me of when black kids wore Afros in school. Now I have a biracial nephew. My sister never fixes his hair. I wonder why the movie, plus a called Hair.
To understand this country you have to understand the Vietnam War, either by having lived through it or having studied it. That war was a terrible growth experience during which everything changed. Eyes were opened, so much was lost.
Such a moving scene.. a rare time the movie and the musical were both great. My mom had the original Hair Broadway soundtrack on vinyl and I listened to it often in the early 70s. They filmed the scene w the hippies running at the end in DC and my sister was somewhere in that mob.
RIP Treat Willams. ❤❤
It doesn't matter how many times I watch this movie, the final scene where Berger walks on the plane on his way to Vietnam, followed by the scene of the hippies around his grave site always leaves a lump in my throat. A classic ending!
Right! I almost couldn't watch this just now
I always full on cry.
@EverGame Studios Scenes like that just don't fit into the Marvel Universe.
In the original Broadway musical, Claude Bukowski makes it back in time and he dies. Since this movie was released just 4 years after the end of the Vietnam War, the movie was trying to make an impact statement and since I was a teenager during this time period, I love both stories. My son ended up playing Claude in the Revised Broadway version and he learned in that show and playing the lead in the Broadway version of Miss Siagon that war is never the answer.
You wanna die in Ukraine?
I won’t be the last to visit this page today. Rest in Peace, Treat Williams and thank you for the amazing body of work you leave behind. God bless your wife and kids. ❤️
I think he'd know it wasn't about him.
Looks more like helmets ⛑️ 🪖 than hair 😅😂😊
Oh Yes!Memori Tret Williems,!
Jestem zPolski
@juliaroberts5970
If you don't mind me asking are you Julia Roberts the actor
One of the best movies ever made. And the scene of the soldiers entering the dark interior of the plane is surely the best scene ever filmed
Gyalogolnak bele a halálba!! Nagyon felkavaró, nem tudod megszokni, akár hányszor nézed meg!
R.I.P. TREAT WILLIAMS… 😪 This is such a bittersweet beautiful movie. And this ending clenches at my heart every time. Simply moving & thought provoking.
Rest in Peace Treat Williams! You were great in this! This song always made me feel like crying and even more so now...
Raises goosebumps, this scene and song. John Savage's face when he sees the plane taking off with Berger instead of him makes my eyes tear up. Milos Forman made a good call hiring actors who weren't professional singers to play the leads. Treat Williams was priceless.
RIP Treat Williams. This got me through a lot.
One my all time favourite movies! - Big love from South Africa - feel like singing this all day everyday until my neighbours have me arrested lol!
this movie changed my life forever!!
mine too and thousands more
Me too
THE BEST MOVIE EVER!
Saw it when I was involved in another war, diffreent continent, different generation, still the same waste of young lives.
This movie is legendary👌
I cry every time I see it. Rest In Power, Treat Williams.
One of the best movies of all time. Treat was a treat. ❤
Strangely, I was singing Manchester England England the day before his passing as I’ve been very excited about an upcoming trip. Then yesterday, I saw the news. I haven’t been able to stop REALLY listening to this song and how relevant the lyrics are to this very day.
When I get to Manchester, I will sing the last verse in homage to Mr. Williams. RIP Treat! Let the Sunshine In!!!
i always cry at this part. Its like they leave a empty space for him in the middle.
inactive nowadayszárai vámosi lmao
inactive nowadays lmao 7
You are not the only one. No matter how many times I saw it.
inactive nowadays lmao Ja mislim da mu zao samo sto su ga osisali...tuzno stvarno
Burger King
can't ever watch this clip without tearing up.
One of my favorite part in the movie and to see Trent once again after hearing about his death. His friends standing around his grave sums up all the pain and sadness of the Vietnam war.
This part always makes me cry!
Omg!!! So sad I remember watching this with you so sad :( love it
First time I was able to watch this in years, one of my favorite plays/films. When my sons went into the Marine Corps, I couldn't watch it.... now they are home safe from deployment. I think I'll watch the movie.
So glad they returned safe. Praise God and thanks for their service.
Soldiers going into the darkness of the plane. INTENSE!!!!
We starve, look at one another short of breath,
Walking proudly in our winter coats,
Wearing smells from laboratories,
Facing a dying nation of moving paper fantasy,
Listening for the new told lies with supreme visions of
Lonely tunes.
Somewhere, inside something, there is a rush of
Greatness.
Who knows what stands in front of our lives;
I fashion my future on films in space.
Silence tells me secretly everything, everything.
Manchester England, England
Manchester England, England
(Eyes look your last)
Across the Atlantic sea
(Arms, take your last embrace)
And I'm a genius, genius
(And lips, owe you the 'dors)
I believe in god
(Of breath. seal with a righteous kiss)
And I believe that god believes in Claude,
(Seal with a righteous kiss)
That's me. that's me.
(The rest is silence)
That's me.
(The rest is silence)
That's me.
(The rest is silence)
We starve, look at one another short of breath,
Walking proudly in our winter coats,
Wearing smells from laboratories,
Facing a dying nation of moving paper fantasy,
Listening for the new told lies with supreme visions of
Lonely tunes.
Singing our space songs on a spider web sitar,
"life is around you and in you."
Answer for Timothy Leary, deary.
Let the sun shine,
Let the sunshine in,
The sun shine in.
Tysm❤
How relevant these words are now….facing a dying nation of moving paper fantasy…
@@GenXrCist669Diversity is our strength 😂😅
@@GenXrCist669are you Russian?
@@wmorris3484 No. Why do you ask?
My wife's brother marched into the darkness of one of those planes to go and die in Vietnam at the age of 19. Waste of over 58,000 lives.
That's terrible...sorry to hear that.
its not a waste ,it natural selection, if you go in to other country to kill, then you deserve to die. no exception.
@@hikolanikola8775 Not like they were given a choice.
@@duratoke your right, they were pushed into this by society, it's not like they given them the option to throw away the gun on the battlefield
@@hikolanikola8775 no, the people forcing them to kill other young men deserve to die, they were soldiers and they got orders, it's not like they wanted to do that, a lot of people are seriously affected by killing in a war
I was seventeen years old when I had the luck to see this musical in our small town cinema. By the scene as Burger goes to war all viewer began to laugh out loud. I could not stand this. It seemed as they had not understood the tragic of that moment, while I had to fight swallowing my tears about this friend who went to war for a friend. So.
He would have done better if he had refused the order and confessed what he did. The army eventually figured it out, so he got his friend in trouble anyway (otherwise, his name wouldn't be on the grave). On top of that, he put the other soldiers in danger, not to mention the sergeant from whom he stole the uniform or the upper-class guy from whom he stole the car... What an asshole!
A classic that combines excellent acting with superlative music!
Treat William era um ator Magnífico. Nesse filme ele mostrou o que é ter Lealdade com um amigo. Difícil nos dias de hoje. Foi para Guerra no lugar dele e em silêncio para não o prejudicar . Que Treat William esteja com o senhor Jesus. Sua morte nos deixou perplexos 😪😪😪👏
(❤😢This is a Truely WONDERFUL Movie.But so sad at the End.😢😢Berger was a very good friend.❤
THIS SONG MAKES ME CRY A RIVER EVERY TIME...
Thank YOU Milos Forman, R.I.P.
I remember when I was in the army marching like this into the back of an airplane C130's when the engines were running full and the turbo prop blast was blowing on us so very hot (not like this movie where the engines look like they're turned off). We may have been just numbers but we were proud and brave ready to do our part. Our innocent youth was left behind.
+bluearrowstar
You know...you know what this movie is about right? ...right?
bluearrowstar bless you!
This will always bring tears to my eyes :(
Ditto :'(
Not normally the kind of movie I would watch, hate musicals and hippies, but was glued to the screen for this one. The ending so moving and sad, love this movie even though it is heart wrenching.
When Berger (who has no training at all) is trapped like that and is forced to go to war is such a classic nightmare. Like dreaming it's test day and you didn't study... only 1000 times more scary.
The way I always read this scene is that Berger is fully aware that he is going to die. But he does it for his friend, because at least in his eyes he's only just discovered what it means to be truly free, and Berger doesn't want to take that away from him.
That’s pretty funny. Maybe you should watch the movie again.
I don't think so. I think Berger just finally had one of his crazy plans fall flat on him. No one knew they were shipping out so soon and his ass is caught in a crack. Bad, bad luck.
Forever ! ❤ You will forever live in our heart Berger ❤ 😢sajnálom
Tanto poder e os pobres viventes envolvidos em algo que nem entendem! Momento altamente grandioso dos que criaram o filme! Entrou e ficou na história
Sumamente Recomendable ésta Maravillosa Película
They were still in use (for training) in 1986 when I entered the military. We had kevlar helmets, but the old "steel pot" helmet with plastic liner was in use from WWII through Korea and Vietnam up until the early 1980's.
Not a musical theater person, but I enjoy musicals and this is one of the best. RIP Berger/Treat.
actually in the origional Berger dont change place with Claude. So in the original its Claude singing "Manchester". Its fits,but Berger singing it is much more intese so in the film they chose to let them change there places to show the pointlessness of war :)
war isnt pointless tf
RIP Berger again and the last...
Just hearing this gives me goosebumps. The first time I showed the movie to my daughter she got mad at ME cuz of the sad ending!!!!!!
I know folks hate this movie compared to the musical, but THIS part is so intense, I think it hits HARDER than the original. That being said, I still wonder how they would have known his real name on the tombstone at the end if he was pretending to be Claude?
He admitted who he was. He burned his draft card at the beginning of the film, so he was actually meant to go to Vietnam. The army just kept him there to serve out his time.
The movie is so good, it’s just different. I get how that’s frustrating for people who wanted a proper adaptation, but you can’t deny that this scene’s a gut punch and the music is still great
The first album I ever bought was Hair. I think all the versions are valid and wonderful. The early version is good to set the tone....the film version is tragic. All together is sums up life at that time.
Daina, I imagine some of his squad brothers said, "Hey, where's Bukowski? Who the hell are you? " What kills me is that they didn't send him home, but that's military intelligence for ya. If they found out he burned his draft card they'd have kept him for revenge.
this is just incredible i had shivers for like 20 seconds whitout stop caused by the beauty
Amazing Musical ❤️🙏🏼🎯
Hair. Was a fantastic movie I could really relate too
Respect From Hungarian.
Koszi!
imposible no llorar en esta escena,desde que la vi con 14 años.
Samoin❤
2:05 when their faces fade into to dark .. the most powerfull moment.
and his voice echoing......... yes powerfull
Yes very heart break
Here because the Oscars just snubbed Treat Williams in their memoriam.
Just wanted to shout his name because he is not forgotten by us. RIP.
They did? Ohhh mann that sux 😢
This must be one of the most poignant, moving and beautifully done scenes in recent film history
This movie was been a success many years ago!!! Good video ,Perla.
Rest in Peace Treat Williams 😢
1:09 - 1:21 directly into the dark meat-grinder. chills down your spine.
There swings so much Desperation in it, I cannot but be moved to tears
Que filmaço. Vi no cinema na epoca. E que epoca. Que bons tempos.
No ei hyvää aikaa, Vietnamiin tappamaan ja tulla tapetuksi köyhän vietnamilaisen aiheuttamana.suurvalta sai selkäsaunan 🤔
Like this scene but it makes me SAD
me too
@@Kristina-u1n And angry.
I know Manchester is a bit rough, but it's not quite as bad as the song makes out.
A couple of them will probably survive.
They showed us this movie in high school. I hated every second of it, especially the songs. Now I can't get enough of this song.
A bit inappropriate for school, no?
@@bennywolfe4357 that is the best time! To take away the glorification of being a soldier,
as it is celebrated in the US.
@@juttaweise 1. Nothing in the movie deglorifies soldiers. It mostly glorifies doing drugs in the park.
2. I was referring to the inappropriate scenes.
@@bennywolfe4357 got it 🙂but seriously that was hippytime, the glorious 60ies, everything was possible and allowed. In this film I did not see "glorification" of drugs. It was just part of that aera. And those 5 guys smoked gras/weed as they didn't have the money for other stuff. I'm glad I'm old enough to have lived that period. Today everything has to be pc. Sooo boring!
The Best Movie forever!
RIP Berger 😢
Miloš Forman 👍👍👍👍
Man the ending of this movie is just so sad. I didn't like Berger the whole time but i feel for him
I totally hate and love this scene it just makes me cry but than comforts me. I believe in God.
I was watching this on phone but decided to transfer to full screen on tv via Xbox and it’s even more powerful.
Rest in Peace, Treat Williams
AMO ESSE FILME!
It gets me every time :'( For those who are confused as to why he died, he received no military training whatsoever. Plus, he was a lover. Not a fighter. Which is why he burned his draft card in the first place. That look of silent terror on his face before they leave the bunker always makes me tear up.
+Sol Sister He died cause of war, not cause of lack of training, that would imply men who had training couldn't die. Which they did. In droves. Although what he actually died for is the tragic effect of him being the lover not a fighter you mention.
X Me too....Probably the best movie they let passed !
He died because he had took his friends place,while he had snuck out to see his g/f before they were deployed.
No he was a traitor
@@communitycreatorio If your'e being a Traitor to fascist America, then that's a good thing.
Just to clarify that that's actually Berger singing the 'Manchester' bit. Its ironic because it SHOULD be Claude singing it (as thats who it was about earlier) and instead Berger unfortunately swapped places with Claude, unknowing that he was about to be called up.
Also, Claude isn't actually from Manchester. That was an 'in-joke' that Berger and Claude had, in the song 'Manchester'
Devastating image of the men marching to their deaths :( I'll remember you Mr Williams
A great movie, everyone must see it!
The first woman I loved, I was 19, she was hooked on this. Now, twenty years later, I'm venturing into the path not taken and I really understand. It's really strong stuff. Perhaps I was immature, but I liked the strong male voice of Jim Morrison - and I do not apologize for that. But I do wish that I would've been more open to her. This is something that I would've loved.
54 éves vagyok, magyar nő. A Hair-t 13 éves koromban mutatták be a mozik Magyarországon. Soha nem gondoltam volna, hogy nagymama koromban a békéért kell protestálnom és ennek érdekében ezt a videót a rokonai
mmal, ismerőseimmel és tanítványaimmal kell megosztanom,. :(
Satan Putin is back. Stay strong. Slava Ukraine from a refugee in Thailand. Love you.😇🤗💖🥷🏿🥂🍷
Together we can beat Putin. The head of the snake.
Musica impareggiabile grandissimo film
I love this movie and the Songs
Esse filme deixou muita saudade que filme lindo
Manchester England England
Across the Atlantic Sea
And I'm a genius genius
I believe in God
And I believe that God
Believes in Claude
That's me that's me
He had no training and he went to Vietnam. He was unequipped and unprepared for a very brutal war. :(
Most were maybe at most 8 weeks of basic training, still Berger was REALLY unprepared! Treat Williams his best role IMO.
Unforgetable scene!
When have all the flowers gone? When will they ever learn, and when will we ever learn?
So powerful!!!
It was a brilliant screenplay adaptation - and better than the original play in this girl's opinion. Far more emotionally impacting. Yes - I've seen both - in the theater and theatre.
May 23, 2017 THIS IS SO SO VERY SAD AND VERY FRIGHTENING. NOTHING-NOTHING CHANGES-NOT IN NYC NOT IN MANCHESTER ENGLAND NOWHERE AND NEVER
Filme espetacular música lindíssima conjunto top 10 amo de mais ❤️❤️❤️
Film je neverovatan , muzika bezvremenska !!!!!!
This is so heartbreaking every time
I love it forever...
the hardest part of the movie to watch,it makes you cry :(
RIP ❤
My heart will always break when I hear this song. Orange man please go away
It is sad, until you realize that at the beginning Berger was supposed to go to Vietnam anyway. Now that is some serious destiny at work there.
Sobrecogedora escena. Impotencia absoluta.
But like... what can I listen to after this? Why'd they even keep making music?
PEACE . . GIVE IT A CHANCE.
Not with 'Her' in charge. :'(
Bukowski! Bukowski! BUKOWSKI! THIS WAY, SOLDIER! THERE IS A WAR GOING ON!
WE are "marching on..."!
RIP Berger
Rip 🌈 ⚱️ ⚰️ 🙏 🪦 😌
directed by MILOŠ FORMAN ..... respect !!!
This is my favorite movie of his right after "Hori ma panenko"
RIP
O M G !
Hippies were right about everything. Everything. Chills.
Aleksandar Vučić sent me here
This reminds me of when black kids wore Afros in school. Now I have a biracial nephew. My sister never fixes his hair. I wonder why the movie, plus a called Hair.
To understand this country you have to understand the Vietnam War, either by having lived through it or having studied it. That war was a terrible growth experience during which everything changed. Eyes were opened, so much was lost.