Employee 1 - "Okay, let's make the hardest champion yet." Employee 2 - "Sure, but what is going to be so hard about him?" Employee 1 - "It's gonna be hard to play against him."
Riot: Our design team has 200 years of collective game design experience. Guy: How many people are in your design team? Riot: 5000 people, why do you ask?
@@MrMrbobo46 an angry riot employee said something along the lines of "sure being good at league counts for your opinon, but I'm gonna stick with the 200 years of game design experience"
@@bogdant4447 a member from riot claimed they have 200 years of game development experience ( say 40 developers with 5 years of experience = 200 years of total experience ) But it became a meme, because the shit they do to league with those 200 years of combined experience
Imagine not wanting Aphelios nerfed because it's your main champion and you're not really good at the game but still wins because you main the most broken champion
@@TheChuassassin yeah every ADC can kill you from a mile away under tower, or 1 vs 4 your team when your team is ahead, and don't even need their supports, trueeeeee
RIOT: and you want to instantly die when you position even just 1 teemo away from the perfect spot? ADCS: YES RIOT: and even with perfect positioning and kiting you want to get outplayed by a 5k tank with 300 mr and armor? ADCS: YES HELL YEA RIOT: you also wanna have a class that counters tanks, assassins, adcs and even some mages with their perma mobility, 4khp, 300+AD, 100-200 Ressistances, 3+Healing items and the potential so solocarry games when the team sucks? BRUISERS: hey we already exist!
just dodge his R, sniper and flamethrower Q, stay away from him when he's using his scythe Q, stay away from his turrets, what I'm trying to say is that you should just stay away from his attack range, and actually just stay away from his sniper follow-up shot range, *and you'll be fine.*
well, you gotta be good, and idiots always just group together which is why you get that much damage. Infernum flamethrower ult damage multiplies with the more people it hits, so of course its gonna do that much damage. Besides if you dont start getting kills in the first 15 min there is literally nothing you can do. You dont have anything except your guns, and when your behind, your guns do zero damage and you are squishy, actually the worst champ in the game when behind.
I think that its more about if they ban it theres gonna be a shitshow from the comunity. People know hes broken, even riot knows that, so baning that joke would bring even more shit to them (and dw they already do enough shady shit behind the scenes)
Whenever I see these plays, I just feel like it's not official League of Legends. It just looks like some developers who are having fun on god mod accounts.
He is definitely to a a tank, not an assassin, not a mage, not a support and not a jungler. Sure hes strong but thats just because they don't know how to play against him, grouping so tight when he has infernum is just asking for a spank in the ass.
Range's been nerfed, and aphelios is really hard to master. I mean, of course knowing the blue one does aoe dmg is basic, but not every player does what they do in this vid. Not saying it's balanced, just saying it's hard to understand and to master.
@@danielmedinadouriet805 dude that champion plays for itself... Every weapon sinergises sooo well with each other its basically just knowing wtf does everyone, also he is incredibly versatile and overloaded. (Sorry man but.. That's not a hard champion to play and master..) XDD
Shorell it actually is , you should know when to use each combination and some combinations are trash for some situations, for example if you’re fighting with chakrum and gravitum, if a j4 últs you or a Darius grabs you you’re dead, the stun from gravitum is not nearly enough to save your life, but if you duel with severum of course you’ll survive because of the lifsteal, if you team fight with infernum you win, or with calibrum you win , but of course you must learn when and where you use it and how to position yourself more than anything. Adc as it is is already a hard role and mastering this champion takes time. Take your “it’s not a hard champion to play and master” ego elsewhere, you’re the same type of player that thinks yasuo is broken and easy.
@@thenamesmango7235 Or you could just do what Skooch said. Get both guns down to like 5 shots of ammo left, hit Q 4 times, win. Listen dude, the average league player knows over 100 champion kits. That's 4 abilities, and a passive, plus any passives that go with the abilities, plus the damage types those abilities do. That's more than 500 pieces of information to remember and recall in an instant. You honestly think Aphelios' kit is hard to figure out? Don't make me laugh.
@@DarkAvegger EA, sadly Uh, CD Projekt Red Blizzard donates money to the same oppression Tencent does but their games are slightly more developed and balanced? Idk I know these kids who made a flash game a little better developed than league too
Riot: aphelios is our most skilled adc, just the best adc players can main him Every aphelios with infernum even if he is 2/19/0: *burst the whole enemy team*
@@Xersias a bad gun wont really do anything, because you can just switch it up. You need all of the guns to have a weakness like jinx. She has a trade off, range with aoe or att speed.
Its depressing, thing about aphelios is that he was supposed to be mechanically hardest champion and he is so easy, because the only person that knows what is happening is aphelios' player, enemies and even his team is just sitting like "??ok i guess"
@@jjason000123 Samira ain't got shit on release Aphelios, honestly Killing entire teams from +1k range with ulti alone (no need to charge up shitty ranks), or getting kills pretty much from across the map cuz the retarded Rifle interaction is way more powerful than anything Samira does
@@Hiken_Bakuzan Yeah i also see nothing wrong with Samira getting free windwall while doing damage because fuck dodging skillshots if u can just tank it right?
Reminder that he used to be far stronger on release and THAT version of him made it through "play testing". those clips you saw in this video where his ult did 30-50% of their hp in dmg would have just full aced entire teams if this was him on release patch.
I'm all for high skill champions. I'd far rather get whupped by someone who's mechanically skilled on their champion than by a Darius or an Illaoi being like "fun is henceforth forbidden", but I do get the feeling that Riot think that giving a champion a high skillcap is actually a way to balance the champion. Because it isn't. I'm honestly fed up with being 1v1d by random idiots playing Lee Sin or Irelia, failing everything, farming like shite but still being stronger than every other champion because "sKiLLz".
@@Ceracio yes thats what we r talking about they just make the skilled champions broken just because they r skilled and u r left with no counter play if ur opponent knows what hes doing on one of these champions .. any btw most of the so called "high skill cap" champions are not hard at all , its just that there a wrong idea spread among the community that having dashes makes the champion hard , which is just dumb . An example for that would be reworked akali for the entire 1st year after her rework .. she was insanely broken with literally no counter play to her 100 to 0 combo in lane but just because she dashes around thats skill
@@Ceracio If you're getting killed by irelia then its entirely your fault. She is quite meh (bordering on trash) in the hands of all but the most skilled players but hey maybe you just ran into one of the few who can pilot her super well, or maybe you just don't want to accept that they were better than you and you made more mistakes. I think I know which one it is.
@@lucette1139 it's about a Riot employee saying they have 200 years experience developing the game together, but they can't make a proper game with balanced champs and everything
This is Aphelios after few rounds of nerf Just imagine how bloody strong and ‘balanced’ when he was just released Ornn, Sylas, Senna and that afk cat, champions these days.......
@@Oferdrincere you realise that jax can use ANY weapon right? but he is banned to use them cuz he would be too strong thats why the lamp and he agreed to it for the challenge honestly if jax had aphelios guns oh god just run xd
@@cuddlingfemboysirl he has new lore. Now, he is the warrior who survived after catastrophe in Ikatia, and his lamp is the last thing remained after his country.
Aphelios is a destroyer in combat, a beast in 1v1, a 1v3 god, a champ that can stay in lane without using any potions, a master of harassing and poking and, last but not least, the best proof for Riot’s “200-year-of-collective” experience in game design :))
@@milonchello1643 it's the term refered to "die without counterplay" or "do everything right, and the enemy kills you with just one botton, with insane damage", and has u can see, he deleted the entire team without kitting, and just pressing ult
Love the how even the commentators are like "sure... that seems fair." Lmao riot you ruined your game but it's not ruined because there will always be new summoners
@Yasuke ϟ they don't do that kind of damage if they fall behind and they usually die fast if there are more than one enemy coming for them while this champ is an AoE lawnmower. His every auto deals more than MF ult lmao
@@bmth692 Aphelios is so thrash to play against, he doesnt need to kite, you legit try to run it down with a lead and he just walks away while his razors take away all your hp
*Aphelios literally one shotting an entire team even being released half a year ago, Yasuo winning games with 2 items after 0/10 powerspike, Zoe stealing your actives and basically winning TF while one shotting your backline* CertainlyT : "200 years worth of balance*
you understand that if your team groups together, his ult multiplies? The more people that are together when the infernum ult hits, the more the damage multiplies, and its only that weapon. You wont ever 1 shot with that ult unless in the right situation and you're fed.
@@maggiethetompug1409 but then, how do you focus on one character if not homming onto him? It is like A) don't focus him, he will kill you like any other adc. You know what a focus-free ADC can do in a teamfight B) focus him, he will kill you even faster
@@maggiethetompug1409 There are plenty of AoE specialists and none of them can one-shot the entire team with just their Ult. They have to spend their entire skill bar + follow up to accomplish it and it is not easy. MF come close but her ult is not instant and the counterplay is just to not standing still in the entire duration of her ult. Aphelios "set up" is just using his gun on minions to cycle to the desire gun, then wait for team fight and click R. No need for set up, just press R into the enemy ball.
Tbh, I still think Zoe is the most balanced of the bunch. I mean her Q does serious damage, but it's a skill shot that's hard to hit unless you're good at prediction and aiming since you can't always lock down kills with your E and she needs really good positioning. Even if you did get your E off, it doesn't necessarily mean you can go in with Q cause it's risky sometimes. Yasuo and Aphelios are easy as fuck to play if you're a decent enough player at LoL.
Have you ever played against 9-0 Cait or Ez or MF, they all are capable of oneshotting your entire team, it just looks less brutal (Except for MF R) and them getting 9-0 happens much less often.
@@doomse150 true, but even if adc is fed and he/she does not go tank they are still paper thin so random 1-6 top laner with 1 item still can kill them (top laner ofc has to do it strategicly and not braindead rush towards them)
Remember when his level ups could give +% Armor Penetration so he didn't even need a Last Whisper item unless it was absolutely necessary? Now it's +Flat Lethality which lets him nuke Squishies better.
@Cookie 69 armor pen% is good vs tanks and less good vs squishies, lethality is good vs squishies and less good vs tanks, for aphelios its actually not that bad having lethality now since he melt squishies and if there is tanks he just go last whisper and voilà
Rai Green actually if you do the math, after lvl 18 and 4 armor item, I just decide to not buy armor pen against tank at all lol, instead focusing on crit and other useful item.
Kinda wrong: 18% armor pen is almost equal to 12 lethality if the enemy has 70 armor (both will reduce 70 to 57/58). As an example, Xayah is the ADC with the least armor lvl 18, which is 76. 18% pene is better than 12 lethality even against "squishies"; lethality is an early game stat, or a stat you want to stack with multiple lethality items, tho Aphelios wants crits and survivability. We can mention champions even more "Squishy" such as Kassadin, Orianna, Heimerdinger having
Mateo Ikica imagine defending your main champ like this. Kaisa can build AP or AD and does mixed damage. She also has shielding invisibility and Q that auto trades for you. Her ult is very flexible and allows you to reposition. She can also build GA or Zhonyas and has an on hit passive
@@mateoikica3893 lmao what. How many nerfs has she received and yet she is STILL picked in pro and popular in solo queue. Passive on-hit magic damage that stacks and deals execution damage at max stacks, Stealth, movement/attack speed buff giving dash, good waveclear with Q that deals execution damage to minions(also broken synergy with manamune), long range nuke that gives vision and true sight on enemies hit, ult that lets you dash across the screen from your w or any allied CC with a huge shield that scales with both AD/AP(200% AD ratio scaling LMAO WTF), and the abilitiy to build both AP and AD while doing mixed damage no matter what you build making her impossible to itemize against defensively.
It's actually hilarious, there's like a split second before the damage from his ult registers. You see the hit connect with like 4 people, and you have to wonder what is going through the minds of these professional players. Maybe something like "oh shit am I in the blast zone?" And then everyone dies LMAO
Riot: "Being good at playing a certain character in a video game is valuable, but I think I'll take the 200+ collective years of PROFESSIONAL GAME DESIGN EXPERIENCE"
Funnily enough lutzberg was responding to those idiots that wanted the wukong damage buff on rework... And we all saw how bullshit wukong was after that rework went live... In hindsight, he was probably right
@@howdoifindaname2743 No he wasn't tho. It's like he just got upset that everyone was making fun of what a joke he is and he said "Well you think I'm wrong I'll prove I'm right by adding 50% to this characters power when he needs 5. Yeah6 that will prove to everyone that I'm not a complete joke of a designer" (he really is a fucking joke, he didn't add anything to the character except raw power and wu's playrate dropped after the rework because no-one wants to play this piece of shit unless he's ungodly overpowered) Also all of this "collective experience'" is complete bullshit because no-one who's actually working on league's design rn never had any previous game design experience outside of league, the only exception being meddler. You can't really claim you have a 10 years game design experience if in those 10 years you've only partially designed one game.
Tbh the aphelios meme started being more prevalent after the Deaths Dance rework, that item stops him and ezreal from dying so those 2 are everything they pick in competitive.... not saying Aphelios is not overloaded, but Im sure that without deaths dance it would be much easier to take down and balance. Same apply for mage items and how they make AP users dumb strong
@@joaonunes5616 Death's Dance is already balanced based on the price it sits on, maybe the same treatment they gave to Tiammat and Hydra (melee only) would be better, OR MAYBE MAKE CONQUEROR A MELEE ONLY RUNE, INSTEAD OF EVERY CUNT SPAMMER BEING ABLE TO CRUSH IT'S LANE WITH IT. Also, fuck mages.
@@Sanguchito137 Consider the 1v4 scenario where a not so fed aphelios single handedly 1v4s a more fed enemy team. No adc that behind could possibly dream of pulling that off and LIVING.
@@RonanTetsu he's basically 4 items and level 15 due to the molten edge....you want him to be 8 items to do something? He literally has more stats than Ezreal and J4/Yuumi are non-existent here since it is full tank J4 and Yuumi doesn't do damage.
Oh come on. He's only good at burst, sustain damage, poke, farming, single target, aoe and life steal! Just get 800 armor and he won't be able to kill you in 0.5 seconds, it's not that hard
@@wilk_28 Zoe deletes with 3 spells but sure m8. Also roots herself and doesnt have 3 trillion lifesteal. Zoe is 1000 times more balanced than Aphelios, Ornn, Senna, Syndra...
1:40 "Okay... Sure... That seems fair... I don't know... You know.." I love how he's acting like: Yep... What the hell have we designed. Should we maybe remake him?
Employee 1 - "Okay, let's make the hardest champion yet."
Employee 2 - "Sure, but what is going to be so hard about him?"
Employee 1 - "It's gonna be hard to play against him."
TRUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
LMFAO, nice one xD
This is true AF, and in my opinion azir is still harder
@@rafaeltomblin6855 nah a very good azir in proplay yes, in soloq aphelios just pretty damn op
@@janaspengler4169 I believe they mean azir is still harder to play.
Jarvan ults.
Aphelios: "So you've chosen death."
"I am not locked in here with you! You are locked in here with me!"
Vassal Of The Night It makes sense
You have activated my trap card!
He was 0/2/3 wasnt he?;D
he can talk? XD
Riot: Our design team has 200 years of collective game design experience.
Guy: How many people are in your design team?
Riot: 5000 people, why do you ask?
Ia this the actuall meaning of 200 years. Did riot talk about thta they have 200 years pf colöective game desing
@@MrMrbobo46 an angry riot employee said something along the lines of "sure being good at league counts for your opinon, but I'm gonna stick with the 200 years of game design experience"
@OHGAS U miss calculation by 10.
5000/200= 25 12/25= 0.5 month of playing or 2 weeks.Even if you play 24/7 it's still only 336h.
@@michael87012 you should be dividing 200 with 5000 not the other way around mate
@@zenbozic6184 200*365 = 73000 73000/5000 = 14.6 days of experience each one KEKW
J4: *ults*
Aphelios: _I'm not trapped in here with you, You're trapped in here with me_
This comment is fake news because Aphelios cant speak :)
And rumble didn't ulted...
HAHHAHA
@@MinhNguyen-vq9ry he's too busy collecting pentas
@@MinhNguyen-vq9ry don't you see, it's in italic font. it's his thoughts х)
1:25 Aphelios is so broken, he even killed the Baron twice.
*starts spawning banner of command baron buffed minions*
I am more impressed that the second time he did, he had no assists.
HOW MANY YEARS!
Gotta have the spaguetti with the 200 years of design experience.
Make it delicious for consumption
slashed him in half 🤣🤣🤣
why did I laugh when LCK caster scream "HOW MANY YEARS??"
Because even them know how messed up aphelios is XD
yes, How many xD
I lost it there too
The caster was also ls
You know riot fucked up when not even LS knows what's going on
Jarvan ults aphelios.
Aphelios: I'm not stuck in here with you. YOU ARE STUCK IN HERE WITH ME!
Even after all these years, i cant get over Rorshacks death. It was well written but still felt like bullshit.
@@randomrecruit Dr. Manhattan is a fucking god, but he chooses to kill Rorshacks rather than changing everybody's mind..
Somebody call an ambulance. BUT NOT FOR ME!
Rumble had enough space to q and ult before over heating .....but decided to q and harpoon slow the trapped aphelios........
Indeed since Jarvan has a shield that basically does not exist.
"200 Years of punishment"
200 years of not streaming
What does that mean
@@bogdant4447 200 years - a random Rito term after Harambe - one of the Wukong mains - complained that Wukong (before the Rework) is weak as hell!
@@bogdant4447 a member from riot claimed they have 200 years of game development experience ( say 40 developers with 5 years of experience = 200 years of total experience )
But it became a meme, because the shit they do to league with those 200 years of combined experience
@@turtlekombat glad someone else remembered the good old days of nicolai master yi streams
1:27
Aphelios is so powerful he got 2 barons
Bruh
wtf?
I think his ulti killed baron and one of the things that come out when u hit wit the ult killed it at the same time
@@7evenZee Probably just a replay bug, happens a lot.
LOL I didn't even notice, good point-out
"A small indie company"
I just wanna kiss this comment.
@@SwedishMarksman Bende Kardeşim
ben de bro
"Multi dollar company"
@@MaximumBoolin yeah like $43
imagine being 3 lvls ahead hitting all abilities from four champions just to get 4v1d by an adc in melee range. 200 years :)
what a joke ... make him want to laugh and cry at same time
Idk why riot think that's a good idea
First Last imagine wanting aphelios nerfed, the only good champion in league who will reign king forever
I wonder if that rioter regrets what he said about the 200 years
Imagine not wanting Aphelios nerfed because it's your main champion and you're not really good at the game but still wins because you main the most broken champion
Not banning aphelios counts as bad positioning and/or overextending
playing against him puts the aphelios in legal charge for cyber bullying
J4: ults Aphelios
Aphelios: call an ambulance call an ambulance but not for me
I think the balance team is actually just random hobos learning to use computers
im laughing so hard rn
Will we get an Aphelios in Valorant too?
they are smoking something us the rest of the mortals cant even comprehend
Or people who know how to use computers but ended up as hobos and after getting out of poverty are now getting back at society by doing this.
Teemo shrooms hit these guys so hard when they were designing him
"FEEL THE BALANCE OF 200 YEARS!" _- Aphelios Riftrager_
Underrated comment i fucking dropped my phone laughing
They just tryed their best to make the ultimate broken champ, was expectable for them to succeed after 200 years
feels like something illidan would say
illidan got new lines
Riot: So, you want burst damage, attack speed, life steal, area of effect damage, dps or range???
Aphelios: YES
you say this as if it isn't what every adc is
Don't forget the lifesteal
@@TheChuassassin yeah every ADC can kill you from a mile away under tower, or 1 vs 4 your team when your team is ahead, and don't even need their supports, trueeeeee
Sustain, AOE?
yes
RIOT: and you want to instantly die when you position even just 1 teemo away from the perfect spot?
ADCS: YES
RIOT: and even with perfect positioning and kiting you want to get outplayed by a 5k tank with 300 mr and armor?
ADCS: YES HELL YEA
RIOT: you also wanna have a class that counters tanks, assassins, adcs and even some mages with their perma mobility, 4khp, 300+AD, 100-200 Ressistances, 3+Healing items and the potential so solocarry games when the team sucks?
BRUISERS: hey we already exist!
"HOW MANY YEARS?"
20000000000000000000000000
Don't know maybe 200
OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAND
could you explain the reference i'm kinda dumb
this made me spill my shit
"You dont need to play a game to balance it."
I love how even the casters were on the 200 year meme
@@HuyVu-lx1mf and that would be a shot in the knee. They'd lose so many players.
Huy Vu no one is getting fired for saying “200 years”
"aphelios has been on the strong side recently so we are going to knock him back a bit (-5 movementspeed)"
might i remind you he's immobile?
Remember when Diana got mini reworked and was op ( I think it still) and riot
-5 base AD.
"Irelia is the most OP champion after her rework"
-5 move speed
"Kassadin has been severely underperforming lately"
+5 move speed
They are giving enemy players opportunity to run away faster :)
is literally what happened to the Nerf Irelia xD
Well guys there's only one real solution to this: nerf irelia.
nah nerf azir
-5ms
Nerf yasuo w so he cant defend from 200 years of ....
Nerf akali
Give lux another skin what ya'll talking about
Aphelios is not broken,just don't fight him when he has the green gun,red gun,purple gun,blue gun or white gun!
Fight him when he have no ammo XD
just dodge his R, sniper and flamethrower Q, stay away from him when he's using his scythe Q, stay away from his turrets, what I'm trying to say is that you should just stay away from his attack range, and actually just stay away from his sniper follow-up shot range,
*and you'll be fine.*
@Yasuke ϟ u also fucked up
Don't worry he only has a level 2 - 18 power spike.
@@hisbro10 THEN KILL HIM LVL 1 WHEN HE HAS NO ABILITY
The guy who said " APHELIOS?!?! HOW MANY YEARS" is a fucking legend
LS
Enemy team: surrender, we’ve got you outnumbered 4 to 1
Aphelios: i like those odds
at this point even if his own team purposefully bard ults him he is still fine
As an aphelios main, I have to agree. Those are the only fights I take
Every other champion: Making insane plays, dodging every CC trying to even get a quadra.
Aphelios: "Haha my gun goes pew pew!"
mds um brasileiro aqui??
guns*
@@Kofja Hmm I never truly understood how his weapon work, does he recharge them with magic or what
@@llluana kkkkk acho q sim
well, you gotta be good, and idiots always just group together which is why you get that much damage. Infernum flamethrower ult damage multiplies with the more people it hits, so of course its gonna do that much damage. Besides if you dont start getting kills in the first 15 min there is literally nothing you can do. You dont have anything except your guns, and when your behind, your guns do zero damage and you are squishy, actually the worst champ in the game when behind.
The fact that the commentators can say ''200 years'' is actually hilarious.I guess props to Riot for advocating free speech (?).
I think that its more about if they ban it theres gonna be a shitshow from the comunity. People know hes broken, even riot knows that, so baning that joke would bring even more shit to them (and dw they already do enough shady shit behind the scenes)
he says that bcz on the stream the chat spams 200 years
Afaik the English LCK broadcast is not Riot employed, but I could be wrong. It used to work that way at least.
Wh- what? What does free speech have to do with this
What does 200 years even mean
Whenever I see these plays, I just feel like it's not official League of Legends. It just looks like some developers who are having fun on god mod accounts.
"Aphelios is a ranged, melee, tanky, DPS, assassin, mage, tank, support, jungler"
Vandiril, 08/02/2020.
NOPE, DUMBS, he uploads once a year, DUMBS more like... SHIT-
he said it first lfmao
Seems Balanced
He is definitely to a a tank, not an assassin, not a mage, not a support and not a jungler.
Sure hes strong but thats just because they don't know how to play against him, grouping so tight when he has infernum is just asking for a spank in the ass.
@@wissiw5276 he can just hold onto that weapon until a team fight. There is no counterplay unless the counterplay is "no team fight". It's stupid.
The tanky part is specially true when Aphelios builds deaths dance. That item is actually fucking cancer. Its getting built on every adc in lck
Year 2220: We've noticed that Aphelios is kind of broken so we decided to nerf him.
"thus we decided to nerf his movement speed by 5"
You cant nerf bad design. When they do he will be useless.
@@TheMihig nah his range needs nerf, having multiple long-ranged abilities is absurd
wildfox9t the amount of people justifying that irelia nerf as a good buff ive met are insane like yea a champion with dashes needs to run😂😂
After 200 years
Riot staff seeing this: "Hmm the game seems unbalanced"
Other employee: "yep"
Next patch: Irelia -5 movement speed
evil rito be like: Yeah, i feel like aphelios' kit is abit overloaded and i feel like sett's true damage is abit high.
Imagine hitting one skillshot and killing everyone on the enemy team.
And its not even remotely hard to hit with huge range and hitbox
Range's been nerfed, and aphelios is really hard to master. I mean, of course knowing the blue one does aoe dmg is basic, but not every player does what they do in this vid. Not saying it's balanced, just saying it's hard to understand and to master.
@@danielmedinadouriet805 dude that champion plays for itself... Every weapon sinergises sooo well with each other its basically just knowing wtf does everyone, also he is incredibly versatile and overloaded. (Sorry man but.. That's not a hard champion to play and master..) XDD
Shorell it actually is , you should know when to use each combination and some combinations are trash for some situations, for example if you’re fighting with chakrum and gravitum, if a j4 últs you or a Darius grabs you you’re dead, the stun from gravitum is not nearly enough to save your life, but if you duel with severum of course you’ll survive because of the lifsteal, if you team fight with infernum you win, or with calibrum you win , but of course you must learn when and where you use it and how to position yourself more than anything. Adc as it is is already a hard role and mastering this champion takes time. Take your “it’s not a hard champion to play and master” ego elsewhere, you’re the same type of player that thinks yasuo is broken and easy.
@@thenamesmango7235
Or you could just do what Skooch said. Get both guns down to like 5 shots of ammo left, hit Q 4 times, win.
Listen dude, the average league player knows over 100 champion kits. That's 4 abilities, and a passive, plus any passives that go with the abilities, plus the damage types those abilities do. That's more than 500 pieces of information to remember and recall in an instant. You honestly think Aphelios' kit is hard to figure out? Don't make me laugh.
It's so funny that the casters are even allowed to say that since it's making the company look like a joke.
You mean Aphelios wasn’t already doing that for them?
@@walkermcmullin8665 and yuumi
Well the company IS a joke so yeh
@@RealYsaacs find me a better gaming company
@@DarkAvegger EA, sadly
Uh, CD Projekt Red
Blizzard donates money to the same oppression Tencent does but their games are slightly more developed and balanced?
Idk I know these kids who made a flash game a little better developed than league too
this moment when even the casters can't hold back the 200 Year jokes.... truly a well designed champion
Riot: aphelios is our most skilled adc, just the best adc players can main him
Every aphelios with infernum even if he is 2/19/0: *burst the whole enemy team*
It sound like yasuo
Teco he is the yasou of adc
Wait till he his 3/20. He is gonna pop everyone
That's true thou, aphelios in solo queu isn't really a problem
the 2/19 aphelios with 6 items :/ fk
rewatch these clips and look the items maybe you will notice something
Meanwhile in balance team: mmm let's decrease his movement speed 330 to 325
That would kill any champ tho, that's unmounted kled speed
@@Xersias When unmounted Kled is not moving towards opponents.
@@dimitriskazantzidis7718 yes the point being movespeed does matter, aphelios' problem is he doesnt really have a bad gun
@@Xersias His problem isn`t that he has no bad gun, she shouldn`t have any bad gun. The problem is how good his better gun combos are.
@@Xersias a bad gun wont really do anything, because you can just switch it up. You need all of the guns to have a weakness like jinx. She has a trade off, range with aoe or att speed.
1:25 gets me everytime.
Every champ: *Need at least 1 year to balance.*
Aphelios: "I'll make them spend 200 more year."
"call an ambulance, call an ambulance... But not for me"
Yap like AKALI(REWORK) and QIYANA 🤣
Its depressing, thing about aphelios is that he was supposed to be mechanically hardest champion and he is so easy, because the only person that knows what is happening is aphelios' player, enemies and even his team is just sitting like "??ok i guess"
that's literally aphelios in a nutshell cuz for enemy team whatever happens happens
Nah man a silver player told me aphelios is fine because he's a casual player and he just "doesn't let him free hit"
CertainlyT is yet again proving to us why we hate him and his stupid designs.
Someone at Riot really needs to say the word "no" to him
Aphelious isn't supposed to be in League at all x_x. I want to play MOBA, not a bullethell game.
@@rinart73 its not a bullethell game, those damage is homing toward u like cait's ult on steroid
Jax:imagine if I had a real weapon
Jax with real weapons: 200 years
1:25 This Aphelios is that good that he even killed baron twice in the same time
"Wanna see me do it again?"
Nah, its just the graphic for stolen Barons. It shows who dealt damage to baron. See that it includes the enemy champions.
200years it’s a joke lmao
when adc can 1v4 in melee range you know that riot has a good dealer.
And then Samira was born
Samira take that seriusly
@@jjason000123 Samira ain't got shit on release Aphelios, honestly
Killing entire teams from +1k range with ulti alone (no need to charge up shitty ranks), or getting kills pretty much from across the map cuz the retarded Rifle interaction is way more powerful than anything Samira does
@@Hiken_Bakuzan Yeah i also see nothing wrong with Samira getting free windwall while doing damage because fuck dodging skillshots if u can just tank it right?
"We dont think our champs have unbalanced kits" - Riot
get it right, its overloaded
"We don't think. Our champions have overloaded kits."
Punctation matters.
edit this shit
Not a clown, but the whole circus
yone
Reminder that this made it through “play testing”
Reminder that he used to be far stronger on release and THAT version of him made it through "play testing". those clips you saw in this video where his ult did 30-50% of their hp in dmg would have just full aced entire teams if this was him on release patch.
@@jeffchen6517 Those clips WERE him on release patch. Vandiril is recycling clips from the last 6 month
@@doomse150 some of them were new tho like the s04 game
that was yesterday
@@doomse150 did you watched the G2 baron vs. Rogue? That was a joke..
@@doomse150 nop, this is all happened in the competitive, from the last week
Imagine designing a character whose only weakness is the player not knowing what to do
Made me think of typical Yas
basically every "high skill cap" champion is the same .. yas akali aphelios riven etc
I'm all for high skill champions. I'd far rather get whupped by someone who's mechanically skilled on their champion than by a Darius or an Illaoi being like "fun is henceforth forbidden", but I do get the feeling that Riot think that giving a champion a high skillcap is actually a way to balance the champion. Because it isn't. I'm honestly fed up with being 1v1d by random idiots playing Lee Sin or Irelia, failing everything, farming like shite but still being stronger than every other champion because "sKiLLz".
@@Ceracio yes thats what we r talking about they just make the skilled champions broken just because they r skilled and u r left with no counter play if ur opponent knows what hes doing on one of these champions .. any btw most of the so called "high skill cap" champions are not hard at all , its just that there a wrong idea spread among the community that having dashes makes the champion hard , which is just dumb . An example for that would be reworked akali for the entire 1st year after her rework .. she was insanely broken with literally no counter play to her 100 to 0 combo in lane but just because she dashes around thats skill
@@Ceracio If you're getting killed by irelia then its entirely your fault. She is quite meh (bordering on trash) in the hands of all but the most skilled players but hey maybe you just ran into one of the few who can pilot her super well, or maybe you just don't want to accept that they were better than you and you made more mistakes. I think I know which one it is.
Imagine commiting the mistake of *existing* while there is an Aphelios on the enemy team
Enemy Aphelios:
Ally Aphelios: nvm every Aphelios does that
adcs : omagod my role is so hard
meanwhile adcs ingame : ima click this guy until he dies and facetank all the damage wow im so good
@@fuki999 aphelios is special case in adcs
that's why I perma ban him lol
@Hiếu À Mà Thôi z well... Atleast you asked nicely
@@mooe3 you really prefer to ban aphelios over yuumi ban?
"APHELIOS, HOW MANY YEARS?"
200 to be exact
I don't get it. Why 200 years?
@@lucette1139 it's about a Riot employee saying they have 200 years experience developing the game together, but they can't make a proper game with balanced champs and everything
Yeah.. 200 years of collective game balance experience, and this is the result.
@@Nico-ee3bd maybe if there weren't that many champions it would be easier to balance XD riot games: a company with the best ideas
“APHELIOS!!! HOW MANY YEARS?!?!?1?! “ so funny to me
So accurate comment: " HOW MANY YEARS!?? " :V
200 years of drugs consumption?
Almost 6 months since his release and still have no idea what his abilities do. Am I the only one?
Same:))
They kill you
Aphelios players don't either.
Even aphelios players don't know what his kit does
yeah, and the Omnistone too...
even after allll these nerfs, he's still mr. 200 years of death time
at some point you can feel in the casters going "here we go again"
"I'm not stuck in here with you
YOU'RE STUCK IN HERE WITH ME!!
FOR AT LEAST 200 YEAARSSS"
3:27 that's gotta be one of my fav. caster jokes of all time
This is Aphelios after few rounds of nerf
Just imagine how bloody strong and ‘balanced’ when he was just released
Ornn, Sylas, Senna and that afk cat, champions these days.......
ChineseTourists he was actually worse because no deaths dance
You know something is terribly wrong when the only "balanced" champion they released in 2019 was the assassin champion (Qiyana)
@@vukkicos5688 qiyana was not balanced when she was first released but now she's just trash
Best comment I’ve ever seen.
Ornn is balanced but in 10.13 he will be dead as a champ.
Aphelios : *200 years experience with 5 guns*
Jax : *Are you challenging me ?*
Jax is a joke to aphelios. You auto with gravitum and just root. It even goes through his counterstrike
Itachi Kyofu Jax can only evade AA dmg and everything that stack on aa, except for cc effect.
Itachi Kyofu right through the counterstirke
@@Oferdrincere you realise that jax can use ANY weapon right? but he is banned to use them cuz he would be too strong thats why the lamp and he agreed to it for the challenge honestly if jax had aphelios guns oh god just run xd
@@cuddlingfemboysirl he has new lore. Now, he is the warrior who survived after catastrophe in Ikatia, and his lamp is the last thing remained after his country.
Aphelios is a destroyer in combat, a beast in 1v1, a 1v3 god, a champ that can stay in lane without using any potions, a master of harassing and poking and, last but not least, the best proof for Riot’s “200-year-of-collective” experience in game design :))
"we have 200 collective years of game balancing experience"
"cool, how many people are in your team"
"20000 people, why you ask?"
yo seems like riot forgot about the term: "counterplay"
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you could literally destroy an aphelios with a burst assassin mage like leblanc or ap junglers. in general he doesnr do shit against ap champs
@@kyseky5143 think again pls.
@Bubba "dude just click on heads bro" is basically what you said
@WasabiLover This brings back memories from the Halloween event back in '15.
the fact theres a term getting "apheliosed" really says something
Whoever uses that term had severely below-average IQ, it's a fact :)
@@mateoikica3893 ?
If the term is used to represent the amount of nerfs we already had one like that, and it's called olafed.
@@milonchello1643 it's the term refered to "die without counterplay" or "do everything right, and the enemy kills you with just one botton, with insane damage", and has u can see, he deleted the entire team without kitting, and just pressing ult
@@mateoikica3893 yikes redditors man lol. Cant take jokes
"200 years of punishment" accurate.
"So many weapons, Aphelios. The deadliest is your -faith- design."
xD
Whats wrong with his design? i dont get it can you explain
@@Hurricane- he was broken when he came out. Now he needs a buff.
3:16 "You can't do that." That's literally this entire champion in four words.
Can't counts as 2 words, idiot
Mateo Ikica cannot
@@mateoikica3893 are you brain dead no it doesn't ape
@@nop._.just leave him, he's replying to almost every comment defending his broken ass champion lol, kinda sad
@@leon1san +1
1:43 'Okay. Sure.' is killing me
Love the how even the commentators are like "sure... that seems fair." Lmao riot you ruined your game but it's not ruined because there will always be new summoners
Have you seen the Ornn R bug?
"Yeah, maybe that bug made a professional team lose an important game but.. HEY, did you see these 2 Lux skins coming?"
Me: So what is Aphelios good at?
Riot: Winning the Game!
Aphelios: 200 years
Samira: 201 years
Akshan: 202 years
Vex: fuck years
Everyone: Nooooo you can't just press 1 ability and auto attack to get penta kill
Aphelios: Haha Ult go penta kill
lol
@Yasuke ϟ all of them got counter play mean while aphelios doesnt
@Yasuke ϟ they don't do that kind of damage if they fall behind and they usually die fast if there are more than one enemy coming for them while this champ is an AoE lawnmower. His every auto deals more than MF ult lmao
@@bmth692 Aphelios is so thrash to play against, he doesnt need to kite, you legit try to run it down with a lead and he just walks away while his razors take away all your hp
@Yasuke ϟ you must be blind to defend this champion after seeing this video.
*Aphelios literally one shotting an entire team even being released half a year ago, Yasuo winning games with 2 items after 0/10 powerspike, Zoe stealing your actives and basically winning TF while one shotting your backline*
CertainlyT : "200 years worth of balance*
you understand that if your team groups together, his ult multiplies? The more people that are together when the infernum ult hits, the more the damage multiplies, and its only that weapon. You wont ever 1 shot with that ult unless in the right situation and you're fed.
@@maggiethetompug1409 but then, how do you focus on one character if not homming onto him?
It is like
A) don't focus him, he will kill you like any other adc. You know what a focus-free ADC can do in a teamfight
B) focus him, he will kill you even faster
@@maggiethetompug1409 There are plenty of AoE specialists and none of them can one-shot the entire team with just their Ult. They have to spend their entire skill bar + follow up to accomplish it and it is not easy.
MF come close but her ult is not instant and the counterplay is just to not standing still in the entire duration of her ult.
Aphelios "set up" is just using his gun on minions to cycle to the desire gun, then wait for team fight and click R. No need for set up, just press R into the enemy ball.
@@ohlookitisacat7404 did we watch the same video? did you even watch the video?
these op champion apologist.
Tbh, I still think Zoe is the most balanced of the bunch. I mean her Q does serious damage, but it's a skill shot that's hard to hit unless you're good at prediction and aiming since you can't always lock down kills with your E and she needs really good positioning. Even if you did get your E off, it doesn't necessarily mean you can go in with Q cause it's risky sometimes. Yasuo and Aphelios are easy as fuck to play if you're a decent enough player at LoL.
200 years of game design
Aphelios: killed baron twice*
Normal 9-0 ADCs : gets one shot by 0-9 mid laners
200 years ADC: HA
finally. enough of these 1-0 midlaners oneshoting 10/0 adc's.
That's because ADC is shit, not because Aphelios is broken xD
Have you ever played against 9-0 Cait or Ez or MF, they all are capable of oneshotting your entire team, it just looks less brutal (Except for MF R) and them getting 9-0 happens much less often.
@@doomse150 true, but even if adc is fed and he/she does not go tank they are still paper thin so random 1-6 top laner with 1 item still can kill them (top laner ofc has to do it strategicly and not braindead rush towards them)
@@christhesimp2754 Well, i think he must cooperate with his teammate in order to have a chance to do that.
Remember when his level ups could give +% Armor Penetration so he didn't even need a Last Whisper item unless it was absolutely necessary?
Now it's +Flat Lethality which lets him nuke Squishies better.
@Cookie 69 armor pen% is good vs tanks and less good vs squishies, lethality is good vs squishies and less good vs tanks, for aphelios its actually not that bad having lethality now since he melt squishies and if there is tanks he just go last whisper and voilà
Rai Green actually if you do the math, after lvl 18 and 4 armor item, I just decide to not buy armor pen against tank at all lol, instead focusing on crit and other useful item.
Rai Green 25% armor pen against a 400 armor ornn (80% dmg reduction) is 100 armor ignored, that’s still leave him with 300 armor (75% dmg reduction)
Everyone levels attack first then attack speed then lethality so this point is null.
Kinda wrong: 18% armor pen is almost equal to 12 lethality if the enemy has 70 armor (both will reduce 70 to 57/58).
As an example, Xayah is the ADC with the least armor lvl 18, which is 76. 18% pene is better than 12 lethality even against "squishies"; lethality is an early game stat, or a stat you want to stack with multiple lethality items, tho Aphelios wants crits and survivability.
We can mention champions even more "Squishy" such as Kassadin, Orianna, Heimerdinger having
1:27 aphelios is so many years in the future that he can steal baron twice in the same second
Omg xDd
Nah mate thats how steals of barons or drakes are always displaye in league
Aphelios players: Aphelios is not broken, he needs power spike
Me: What power spike?
Aphelios players: Enetering te match
He needs three items like every other ADC.
Kaisa: overloaded, high skill ceiling, "hard to play"
Aphelios: YES
Kai'Sa isn't overloaded.
@@mateoikica3893 Yes she is. She has been top tier almost since her release.
Mateo Ikica imagine defending your main champ like this. Kaisa can build AP or AD and does mixed damage. She also has shielding invisibility and Q that auto trades for you. Her ult is very flexible and allows you to reposition. She can also build GA or Zhonyas and has an on hit passive
@@mateoikica3893 lmao what. How many nerfs has she received and yet she is STILL picked in pro and popular in solo queue. Passive on-hit magic damage that stacks and deals execution damage at max stacks, Stealth, movement/attack speed buff giving dash, good waveclear with Q that deals execution damage to minions(also broken synergy with manamune), long range nuke that gives vision and true sight on enemies hit, ult that lets you dash across the screen from your w or any allied CC with a huge shield that scales with both AD/AP(200% AD ratio scaling LMAO WTF), and the abilitiy to build both AP and AD while doing mixed damage no matter what you build making her impossible to itemize against defensively.
@@JohnSmith-ef6sv Compared to Mr. 200 or Lucian's Mrs. tho.... got me feeling like Kai'Sa is a little underpowered XD.
I like how the casters at first didn't really wanna say it and then just couldn't stop saying it
TWO HUNDRED YEARS OF PUNISHMENT!
It's actually hilarious, there's like a split second before the damage from his ult registers. You see the hit connect with like 4 people, and you have to wonder what is going through the minds of these professional players. Maybe something like "oh shit am I in the blast zone?"
And then everyone dies LMAO
Because the first hit it does minor damage, and second time he auto attacks each of them with weapon on unlimited range
@@RickyMuzakki actually the autoattacks are raining from above. one for each champion hit.
i managed to get a pentakill 1st game with this guy and tbh i dont even remember what i did
I bet you R with blu gun
sounds dubious. even in dia people play him horribly. probably different in masters and above.
Yasuke ϟ you sir are truly the biggest fool in the world for using this hero. Bet you play ranged top as well.
I did the same with Draven, that doesn't mean Draven is broken. They're ADCs, they're supposed to do damage.
@Yasuke ϟ dude stop defending ur loved champ in every comment of this video hes broken no matter what you explain :)
Enemies: 4 vs 1. Aphelios: So I started blasting
Riot:
"Being good at playing a certain character in a video game is valuable, but I think I'll take the 200+ collective years of PROFESSIONAL GAME DESIGN EXPERIENCE"
Funnily enough lutzberg was responding to those idiots that wanted the wukong damage buff on rework... And we all saw how bullshit wukong was after that rework went live... In hindsight, he was probably right
@@howdoifindaname2743 No he wasn't tho. It's like he just got upset that everyone was making fun of what a joke he is and he said "Well you think I'm wrong I'll prove I'm right by adding 50% to this characters power when he needs 5. Yeah6 that will prove to everyone that I'm not a complete joke of a designer" (he really is a fucking joke, he didn't add anything to the character except raw power and wu's playrate dropped after the rework because no-one wants to play this piece of shit unless he's ungodly overpowered)
Also all of this "collective experience'" is complete bullshit because no-one who's actually working on league's design rn never had any previous game design experience outside of league, the only exception being meddler. You can't really claim you have a 10 years game design experience if in those 10 years you've only partially designed one game.
Why is Aphelios still in the game. The casters literally just meme the shit out of him every time he's picked.
Ezreal Aphelios every game lol
And yet he does not get banned by the teams.
Tbh the aphelios meme started being more prevalent after the Deaths Dance rework, that item stops him and ezreal from dying so those 2 are everything they pick in competitive.... not saying Aphelios is not overloaded, but Im sure that without deaths dance it would be much easier to take down and balance. Same apply for mage items and how they make AP users dumb strong
Varus still most op adc right now...
@@joaonunes5616 Death's Dance is already balanced based on the price it sits on, maybe the same treatment they gave to Tiammat and Hydra (melee only) would be better, OR MAYBE MAKE CONQUEROR A MELEE ONLY RUNE, INSTEAD OF EVERY CUNT SPAMMER BEING ABLE TO CRUSH IT'S LANE WITH IT.
Also, fuck mages.
0:50 Ah, the casters finally realize what it's like playing league now.
Aphelios isnt even fed in most of the vids, thats the most ridicilous part
@@Sanguchito137 Consider the 1v4 scenario where a not so fed aphelios single handedly 1v4s a more fed enemy team. No adc that behind could possibly dream of pulling that off and LIVING.
@@Sanguchito137 imagine defending the most ridiculous and trash desing champion in the game lmfao
@@Sanguchito137 0:35 HaVinG ThE eNtIrE's tEaM pEEl
@@RonanTetsu he's basically 4 items and level 15 due to the molten edge....you want him to be 8 items to do something?
He literally has more stats than Ezreal and J4/Yuumi are non-existent here since it is full tank J4 and Yuumi doesn't do damage.
@@RonanTetsu Sounds like absolute bullshit from a guy who got dumpstered by Aphelios last game
Todd Howard to Riot
"All of this, just, works."
lmao imagine if bugthesda made a moba
The spiffing Brit sends his regards
cant believe aphelios used to be this broken how the mighty fall
Announcer: is this possible?
Aphelios: *yes*
*A P H E L I O S ? 2 0 0 Y E A R S !*
"Aphelios is a tank jgler mage assassin bruiser support adc."
Oh come on. He's only good at burst, sustain damage, poke, farming, single target, aoe and life steal! Just get 800 armor and he won't be able to kill you in 0.5 seconds, it's not that hard
With aoe disable hahahaha
Mr. Orgasm not long ago he also could choose armor pen
"HOW MANY YEARS!!!???" ~ LS
You just cant put Aphelios Gameplay in the first seconds, my heart...
Nvm its not the first seconds, its the whole video... maaaaaaaaaaan
@@michi6907 xD
"He flashed over the wall. You can't do that."
I almost forgot to watch this today.
we have 800000 years collective experience in my company and we know that Riot needs to nerf shen
you mean Aurelion
you mean sejuani
you mean akali
You spelled yi wrong
I think you mean rework ryze
It seems that the drug consume over 2019 was double the amount of the previous years :)
bring back old akali please widePeepoSad :(
REVERT AKALIIIII
1:23 they need a miracle Qiyana ultimate
Aphelios: I got you here 200 years ultimate
When riot doesn't even know what the champion does when they designed him
How many years again?
"Not enough"
This is like my fav vandiril video. Always coming by to watch it again
Remember when we thought zoe was bad?
its still bad but this aphelios is too much
Zoe: delete 1 by 1spell
Aphelion : delete 5 by 1 spell
Good times
@@wilk_28 Zoe deletes with 3 spells but sure m8. Also roots herself and doesnt have 3 trillion lifesteal. Zoe is 1000 times more balanced than Aphelios, Ornn, Senna, Syndra...
@@Windman1995 Zoe is balanced but people hate her because she's intentionally designed to kill in 1 combo with no counterplay, other than cleanse.
Add the today's G2 vs ROGUE game. Rogue had aphelios and was really behind, and he almost nuked them with single R (he just had ie + zeal)
Didn't watch but he probably had infernum and they were grouped. IDIOTS
Mateo Ikica found the aphelion main
@@mateoikica3893 and you're obviously better than pro players :)
@@mateoikica3893 Yea they should have known exactly what weapon he is carrying on his hands at any moment in the game. Totally fair play amirite?
@@mateoikica3893 *Angry Aphelios main noises*
Riot: "We have 200 years of collective game design experience!"
Also Riot: *sells league to Tencent*
Riot was acquired by Tencent 16 months after League of Legends was released
1:40 "Okay... Sure... That seems fair... I don't know... You know.."
I love how he's acting like: Yep... What the hell have we designed. Should we maybe remake him?
to make him fair let him only build 1 or 2 items because he already has too much