This Atheist Tried To Challenge the Quran
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This guy has no desire to listen to anything other than his own voice 🥱
The Qur'an is easily challenged on this ground: is Allah of the Muslims *the one God of Deuteronomy 6:4* of the Jewish and Christians scriptures, as claimed by Muslims? Amazing! It's a pity that beloved Muslims believe in the *FRAUD* that the *oneness* (monotheism/Tawhid) of their god of the Kaaba means that he is the *SAME* monotheistic God revealed through Moses (the Torah). The text will reveal why the shema *("O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one")* does not refer to the god of the Muslims but to the true God of Israel.
Same concept of monotheism therefore same God? *No.*
Is monotheism the ONLY attribute required to test Allah of the Qur'an's 7th century claim to be the monotheistic Judeo-Christian God of Abraham, the Creator and Most High God? Satan, who also claims to be God, would easily pass this test since he is monotheistic too.
Allah's strange claim to be the Judeo-Christian God of the Bible goes like this:
Al-'Ankabut (QS 29:46). "...We believe in all that is revealed to us *[Muslims]* and in that which has been revealed to you *[Jews and Christians],* and our God and your God is One, and to Him we stand resigned."
*CLASH: DOES GOD DESCEND TO THE EARTH OR DOES HE NOT?*
It was common knowledge to all the Prophets of Israel, as revealed in Jewish scripture, that the *Shekinah* or presence/glory of the one God of Deuteronomy 6:4 *descends to the earth/creation.* That is what at least both Jews and Christians believe.
*Islam stands alone as a false Abrahamic religion* because, strangely, the glory of Allah of the Qur’an-revealed in the 7th century- *does not descend to the earth* (Sahih Muslim 179).
How are they the same God?
The amazing Almighty is able to enter our space since he is not bound by time, space and location. God is LOVE (1 John 4:8), so out of his *love* (not weakness) he chooses to dwell among the people who are the masterpiece of his creation.
*Examples in the Jewish Torah:*
1. God walked in the garden of Eden (Genesis 3:8), which was not in heaven but was located on earth, serviced by the rivers Pishon, Gihon, Tigris and the Euphrates (Genesis 2).
2. God appeared to Abraham on earth as a man (Genesis 18:1-15). The physical manifestation of God on earth is called *THEOPHANY.* When God revealed his name to Moses, he appeared as a theophany which in scripture is commonly called the *Angel of the lord:* "There the *angel of the Lord appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush."* (Exodus 3:2).
'When the Lord saw that he had gone over to look, *God called to him from within the bush,* “Moses! Moses!” (Exodus 3:4).
Then he (the Angel of the lord) said, “I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob.” (Exodus 3:6)
3. *The glory of God* (Shekinah) descended as a cloud and *entered the temple/tabernacle of Moses* (Exodus 40:34) *and Solomon* (2 Chronicles 7:1-3) *and dwelt among the Israelites.*
Jews pray facing the temple in Jerusalem because that is where the shekinah (glory of God) dwelt.
When the prophets taught, *"Hear, O Israel: the LORD our God, the LORD is ONE* (Deuteronomy 6:4), this is the monotheistic God of Abraham they taught about, not the 7th century Allah of the Muslims whose glory does not descend to the earth!
4. Finally, the glory of God did descend to the earth and entered the *TEMPLE* that was the *BODY* of Jesus (Isaiah 40:3-5, Malachi 3:1 and John 2:19-21) *and dwelt among mankind* (John 1:14). Jesus is the shekinah/glory of God in the flesh (John 1:1, 14)!
The Muslim will say: *"but our God does not descend to the earth or manifest himself as a man (THEOPHANY) because he is Most High and exalted above the earth".* Muslims are free to share many wonderful reasons why Allah of the Qur’an does not descend to the earth but that would present Islam with a serious problem because what Allah claims about himself *(not descending to the earth)* is in *conflict* with the God of the previous scriptures *who does descend to the earth* yet this is whom Allah of Islam claimed to be! (QS 29:46)
Why is there a difference between Allah of the Muslims and and who he claims to be (the God of the previous scriptures)? *Deception.* Someone is making a claim to be who he is not.
Ferrari makes its own engines. Just as it is a central feature for Ferrari to have its own engines, it is a central feature of the true God of Abraham of the previous scriptures that his glory descends to the earth!
If you claim to have a Ferrari, it must have a Ferrari engine, Ferrari badge, look like a Ferrari and sound like a Ferrari, otherwise it is not a Ferrari but another car claimed to be a Ferrari!
If Allah of the Muslims claims to be the one God of Deuteronomy 6:4, then he must descend to the earth, appear to Abraham as a man *(THEOPHANY)* and descend and fill the tabernacle/temple of Moses and Solomon!
If not then Allah the 7th century is another god, a 7th century false god claiming to be the Most High God, just as the prophet Isaiah warned that the Great Deceiver would come to be worshipped by claiming to be the Most High God (Isaiah 14:12-14).
The 7th century Allah of the Muslims fulfilled the Isaiah prophecy by being the only god to *deceive* by claiming to be the Most High God (Al-Aʻla 87:1) of the previous scriptures (QS 29:46).
Beloved Muslim, come back to the true God of Abraham of the previous scriptures. Every prophet who taught that God is *ONE,* also taught that God *DESCENDS TO THE EARTH.*
Totally agree, also makes it so hard to even watch these videos because of these kind of people. Just there to try and prove their stupid arguments
*FIVE* amazing examples of the *shekinah* or presence/glory of the one God of Deuteronomy 6:4 *descending to the earth and into the temple* and *dwelling among the people* in the books of the prophets of old, and the stunning fulfillment of the prophecy from the prophets of old about the *glory of the Lord* appearing to mankind and dwelling in the temple that was the body of *JESUS!*
1. In the Torah, after Adam and Eve sinned,
"And they heard the kol of Hashem Elohim *walking* in the gan in the cool of the day; and HaAdam and his isha hid from the *presence* of Hashem Elohim amongst the etz hagan."
Bereshis (Genesis) 3:8 Hebrew Bible
2. In the Torah, God appeared on earth to Abraham *(Genesis 18:1-15).* In the Torah angel of the lord is a *THEOPHANY* of God (a physical manifestation of God on earth).
[1] *'The Lord* appeared to Abraham near the great trees of Mamre while he was sitting at the entrance to his tent in the heat of the day. [3] He [Abraham] said, “If I have found favor in your eyes, my lord, do not pass your servant by. [11] Abraham and Sarah were already very old, and Sarah was past the age of childbearing. [12] So Sarah laughed to herself as she thought, “After I am worn out and my lord is old, will I now have this pleasure?” [13] Then the Lord said to Abraham, “Why did Sarah laugh and say, ‘Will I really have a child, now that I am old?’ [14] Is anything too hard for the Lord? I will return to you at the appointed time next year, and Sarah will have a son.”
(Even the angel of the lord which "appeared to Moses", as claimed by Waraqah, was not the angel Gabriel but a theophany of God!)
3. In the Torah, *God entered the temple and dwelt with mankind.* God instructed Moses: "And let them make me a sanctuary; that *I may dwell among them."* (Exodus 25:8). Was this Allah of the Qur’an?
'Then the cloud covered the tent of meeting, and the *glory of the Lord* filled the tabernacle. Moses could not enter the tent of meeting because the cloud had settled on it, and the *glory of the Lord* filled the tabernacle.' (Exodus 40:34).
Was this God whose glory entered the tabernacle of Moses, Allah of the Qur’an who can not enter creation? No.
God would give Moses commands from *inside* the tabernacle in the Holy of Holies above the Ark of the Covenant (Exodus 25:22)
4. Later, during the time of Solomon, the glory of God filled the temple again: 'When all the Israelites saw the fire coming down and the *glory of the Lord* above the temple, they knelt on the pavement with their faces to the ground, and they worshiped and gave thanks to the Lord, saying, “He is good; his *love* endures forever.” (2 Chronicles 7:1-3).
His love? Yes, out of His *love,* not *weakness.* Because-unlike the out-of-reach Kaaba god who 'sends down a STONE from heaven' to Muslims-the true God of Israel, the Almighty, loves his people and HIMSELF comes down and *dwells with them!*
This is the clearest evidence that the one ☝️ (monotheistic) 7th century FALSE god of the Kaaba is not the one (monotheistic) TRUE God of Abraham of the previous scriptures who does enter creation.
Allah's claim is the biggest ever act of deception since the creation of the world. Scriptures warned that Satan would come to disguise himself as the Most High God (Isaiah 14:12-14) and even try to imitate God's righteousness (2 Corinthians 11:14-15)
5. Finally, God makes a prophecy of Himself coming to the earth *(by entering the temple that was the body of Jesus Christ)* and the *glory of God* being revealed in *Jesus!* :
'A voice of one calling: “In the wilderness prepare the way for the Lord; make straight in the desert a highway for our God. Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the rough ground shall become level, the rugged places a plain. And the *glory of the Lord* will be revealed, and all people will SEE IT together. For the mouth of the Lord has spoken.” (Isaiah 40:3-5).
Jesus, as the *glory of the Lord*, will be revealed to and be seen by the people!
John the Baptist then confirms the prophecy of Isaiah is about himself, John (the voice of one calling in the wilderness) preparing the way for Jesus:
'This is he [Jesus] who was spoken of through the prophet Isaiah: “A voice of one calling in the wilderness, ‘Prepare the way for the Lord, make straight paths for him.’ ” (Matthew 3:3).
"In the beginning was the *Word,* and the *Word was with God,* and *the Word was God.* The *Word became flesh* and *made his dwelling among us.* We HAVE SEEN *his glory,* the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.(John 1:1, 14)
The title 'Son of God' simply means the Word (who is spirit, eternal and God in nature) added flesh to his divine nature. 'Son of God' means God in the flesh.
Blessings!
If I were Muslim I would be concerned that the *origin of the Qur’an (and Allah)* of the 7th century is *false* from the *beginning* because of *Jibreel's false identity* which is *hidden* to beloved Muslims. Do you remember that Islam is *founded* on the claim that the angel which appeared to the Prophet of Islam in the dark cave of Hira was the angel Gabriel of the Bible "that once visited *Moses?"*
'Waraqah met him (Muhammad) and said, “O son of my brother, tell me what thou hast seen and heard.’
The apostle told him, and Waraqah said, "Surely, by Him in whose hand is Waraqa’s soul, thou art the prophet of this people. There hath come unto thee the greatest Namus (Jibreel), who came unto *Moses* ..." Ibn Sa’d
Well, here is the problem: the angel that visited Moses in Exodus 3 was actually a *THEOPHANY* of God himself, not a messenger angel like Gabriel, Michael etc. A Theophany is one of the many ways in which God has manifested Himself so that He could interact DIRECTLY with his prophets.
Now, as for this entity of God called *'The Angel of The Lord',* other people have seen Him in the Bible:
Hagar in Genesis 16 and Abraham in Genesis 22. When God revealed his name to Moses, he appeared as a theophany which in scripture is commonly called the *Angel of the lord:* "There the *angel of the Lord appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush."* (Exodus 3:2).
'When the Lord saw that he had gone over to look, *God called to him from within the bush,* “Moses! Moses!” (Exodus 3:4). The *angel of the Lord* who appeared to Moses was *God,* not *Jibreel!*
When Jesus Christ was questioned by the mob, in John 8:58 he said:
'Before Abraham was, I AM". He gives the same name which the Angel of the LORD gave Moses in Exodus 3, thereby identifying himself [Jesus] as the Angel who visited Moses.This makes "Jibreel" a *double imposter* of both Jesus and the angel Gabriel!
GABRIEL NEVER VISITED MOSES!
GABRIELnever met MUHAMMAD!
Now, who then is this "Jibreel" of Islam? He clearly wasn't the angel who visited Moses, as the above passages have proven.
"Jibreel"-the angelic imposter of the true angel Gabriel-pressed Muhammad three times until he thought he was going to die. Muhammads own testiment thought the angel was demonic.(IBN Ishaq 106, al Tabari vol 6,7071). *Jibreel himself never at any point claimed to be the angel Gabriel of the Bible.* He should have corrected that error to Muhammed. But he didn't, and he kept Muhammed believing so for 22 years. That makes "jibreel" a satanic angel. And if "Jibreel" wasn't honest enough to correct that he wasn't the angel who visited Moses, how then can you trust the truthfulness of the ENTIRE Quran which Jibreel claims to have brought from ALLAH?? It is also this false Jibreel who is claimed to have given Abraham the Hajr e aswad (Black Stone). Do you see that Islam is built on lies and claims made in the 7th century?
Islam accepts that Muhammad was illiterate and this explains why he was an easy target of Satan's deception at the cave because Muhammad would not have known that Satan and his ANGELS (Revelation 12:9) were cast down to the earth and deceive the world. Remember that time when Shaitan put some verses in Muhammad’s tongue?
The Great Deceiver disguises himself as an ANGEL of LIGHT and his servants (like Muhammad) as servants of RIGHTEOUSNESS (2 Corinthians 11:14-15)
Beloved Muslim, it was Khadijah's cousin-Waraqah Ibn Nawfal- who was not some sort of "Monk of Mecca" as Muslims have been made to believe, but an Ebionite, a heretical sect of Christianity which rejected the miraculous birth of Jesus, instead believing that Jesus was the biological son of Joseph! It is Waraqah Ibn Nawfal who persuaded Muhammad that the angel must have been the Angel Gabriel of the Bible! Do you trust this heretic?
Now let's turn our attention to the verse (about a false angel like "Jibreel" of Islam) which made all of Islam hate Paul:
Galatians 1:7-8
*[7]"... Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. [8] But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!"*
Jibreel of Islam brought a gospel about Jesus Christ which was different to the one preached by the disciples.
What gospel of salvation? Paul below was simply referencing what the prophets of old prophesied about the Messiah:
“All of us, like sheep, have strayed away. We have left God’s paths to follow our own. Yet the Lord laid on him the sins of us all.” (Isaiah 53:6)
"He poured out his soul unto DEATH and bore the SINS OF MANY" (Isaiah 53:12)
Jesus said only Satan would reject his crucifixion Matthew 16:21-23 (as Allah of the Qur’an does 600 good years after the event (QS 4:157) and that Satan would be defeated at the cross (John 12:31-32).
1 Corinthians 1:18-25
[18] 'For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. [22] Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom, [23] but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, [24] but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.'
Blessings to you.
@@TheWatchmanWebsitesays who we worship kaaba u saying allat with 001% knowledeg😂
22:00 to 23:00 marks the greatest exchange in speakers corner history.
"Its not in Arabic."
"Even your source tells you it's Arabic."
"Well lets see where it came from."
"Do we agree now that it IS Arabic?"
"No its not Arabic."
Bruv 😂😂😂 i dont even need to pay for entertainment anymore. I can just watch Gary.
Someone from middle of nowhere who doesn’t even know his own existence tells us in what language our scriptures were based on someone else’s opinion.
Everything is everyone’s opinion broski. Just believe what you believe. It’s your test.
So because womanizer Mohammed we shouldn't believe history anymore or what
@@Iam_GodAmbassadorNabi Muhammad SAW is not a womanizer
be had authentic sources, even the british museum
...because Islamic Dawah teams given the time will lie to cover the SIN(standard Islamic narrative),ALL religions are false,nothing they said is true.
Athiest: here is my source 'screenshot'
Me: is it legit?
Athiest: trust me bro
Me: here is the source which debunks your claim and here is the reference that you can check
Athiest: Nah mate its from Islamic website.
Me: but you only showed me screenshot as your legit evidence.
Athiest: we don't use same standards here.
smh
God i hate it when they take non muslim sources as reliable and muslim sources as non reliable.........
The mental gymnastics needed to think in that way just sounds exhausting
the references are there, check the references then? i really don't understand the contention
@@Radec913bhai Muslim sources are based on magic..how was the universe created?..by magic..haha..how was Adam created?..by magic..only Muslims will live forever how ? By magic obviously..haha..the creator will never die how ? Magic…haha..science becomes irrelevant when you have magic..
its absolutely amazing how islam is the only religion people actively blatantly and proudly lie about.
Can i just say I have been watching you guys for a while now, its beautiful to see you guys age.
Gary graduated from Yappington University 🤣
I actually thought that was a real university name for a moment.
😂😂😂😂
@@EzioYuiobhai you are lucky to get some education like these immigrants who had no education when they came here…
This guy keeps talking about an independent source but keeps referring to Google images as his source 😂😂
Bro he has screenshots off the net. Apparently he read books and took pictures. 😅
Narrated Abu Dharr: I was sitting behind the Messenger of Allah (🐷) who was riding a donkey while the sun was setting. He asked: Do you know where this sets ? I replied: Allah and his Apostle know best. He said: It sets in a spring of warm water (Hamiyah). -Sunan Abi Dawud 4002;
@Alonzo-Harris at that moment he new that there was a spring about 25 miles away. Wow that's an incredible miracle, he really knew the whole region. Thanks for sharing it.
@@Alonzo-HarrisIn Sahih Bukhari it goes as;
Sufyan (al-Thawri)- Al-A’mash- Ibrahim (b. Yazid al-Taymi)- Yazid al-Taymi- Narrated Abu Dharr: The Prophet asked me at sunset, "Do you know where the sun goes (at the time of sunset)?" I replied, "Allah and His Messenger know better." He said, "It goes (i.e. travels) till it prostrates Itself underneath the Throne and takes the permission to rise again, and it is permitted and then (a time will come when) it will be about to prostrate itself but its prostration will not be accepted, and it will ask permission to go on its course but it will not be permitted, but it will be ordered to return whence it has come and so it will rise in the west. And that is the interpretation of the Statement of Allah: "And the sun is quickly proceeding towards its destination. That is the designing of the All-Mighty, the All-Knowing. " (36.38) (Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Hadith 421)
The significant difference is of the words “it sets in a spring of warm/murky water.”
@@Alonzo-HarrisDo you think mocking makes other people adore you and amazed by you? No, it makes other people hates you and your religion or whatever you believe in even more and even proof that you belief system is vile and full of hatred. So, please be nice.
51:16 a beautiful snapshot into how diverse our Muslim ummah is Alhamdulillah different nations under one truth Alhamdulillah
Yes bhai we have seen Islamic diversity in Iran vs Iraq ,Afghanistan,vs Pakistan,Syria,Pakistan vs Bangladesh,Iraq vs Saudi Arabia and Kuwait,Sunnis vs Shias,vs ahmediya etc…
@@mumbaiatheist2384 are you jealous?
( 📚 Al-Adab al-Mufrad 117 )🔸Abu Huraira reported: A man said, “O Messenger of Allah, a woman prays in the night, fasts in the day, does many deeds and gives charity, yet SHE HARMS HER NEIGHBOURS WITH HER TONGUE” The Prophet PBUH said, “There is no good in her, SHE IS AMONG THE PEOPLE OF HELLFIRE.” The man said, “O Messenger of Allah, another woman prays the obligatory prayers & gives bits of food in charity, yet she does not harm anyone.” The Prophet PBUH said, “She is among the people of Paradise
@@mumbaiatheist2384Don’t pretend that Islam is in your country of India and you Indians are the root cause for wars between other South Asian countries while murdering Muslims in your own country and in Kashmir.
This guy doesn't know that the 6th century starts at 501ad to 600ad
I remembered when that Christian guy said 'SHOW ME! SHOW ME WHERE IN THE BIBLE! SHOW ME!' and then another Christian guy corrects him and everyone goes OUouuouOu 😂
David is a prophet
the Christian is Godwin, he was talking to Adnan Rashid, and Adnan said that David according to Christianity is a Prophet, and Godwin was wholeheartedly denying that, then a Christian pulled out a text from the Bible, I think the book of acts, where paul was calling david a prophet.
Lol..i remember that
Good memories
He was absolutely so confident that David was not a prophet in the bible😂& a Muslim brother knew more about the bible than the so called “christian”
Can’t reason with people like this love their own voice too much and keeps moving the goalpost.
He wants to present himself as intelligent but failing miserably. Whoever gave him his “lawyer” certificate as he claimed, should revoke it
he shd learn Arabic then come and talk but I think he is not a truth seeker...he wants to show off...aim is to defeat Muskims at S Corner.
this is so embarrassing I can read that text he claims isn't arabic, and kufi is just a style of writing, exactly the same thing as cursive for example, it's all still the same language which is arabic in this case.
I dont know why these brothers even bother talking to someone this obviously insincere.i guess its just for the viewers at home, still hard to watch though.
The funny thing is, in comparison to other speakers, Gary is a real class act. Delusional, but a class act nonetheless. Like the other brother said in the comments, Google Gary is lost and can’t be found at the moment.
gary is still missing till today
I can write arabic using roman letters.... its still arabic... lol the script used can change.. 😅😅
Exactly, theses people truly are too much dumb to understand that the languages scriptures always evolved trough times to times.
Old is gold.
Jazak Allahu Khayran BarakAllahu Feekum Alhamdulillahi rabbi al'alameen
Ohhhhhh now the Arabic language was at its infancy.
At first you said it didnt exist?
And youre ignoring the inscription from 513.
And if it was BC that would be literally 1000 years before the one youre bringing up.
You feel so confident, Gary.... its absolutely adorable. 😊
You make me feel closer to Allah everytime you speak.
Unspeakably grateful to be guided away from shirk. Audhubilahi min alshaytan ir rajeem
Reste toujours calme ce pas donné a tout le monde 😢 Allah Akbar ☝️
That saying comes to life here "A monkey in a suit is a monkey no less"
Bhai you need quality education to stop using racial and derogatory language…
@@mumbaiatheist2384 even if Gary was white that saying still suitable to his attitude
Yeah..this ONE professor found the truth..and the rest of all the professors are wrong..I read his research and it make sense and I am comfortable..
Jazakom Allah khair
Why he doesn't like to listen just want to talk over the brother.
That's Christianity only preach don't listen
Narrated Abu Dharr: I was sitting behind the Messenger of Allah (🐷) who was riding a donkey while the sun was setting. He asked: Do you know where this sets ? I replied: Allah and his Apostle know best. He said: It sets in a spring of warm water (Hamiyah). -Sunan Abi Dawud 4002;
@@Alonzo-Harris As to the hadith in question, there are several hadiths worded similarly but without the words, “sets in a spring of warm water.” If all the hadiths that are related are read, it can easily be appreciated that the quoted part is an error. The evidence is that each of the other hadiths end the with reference to the Qu’ranic verse from Surah Al Kahf 36:38, which notes the sun’s path (from the human perspective and from which we benefit) as a sign of God. Instead, in the hadith in question someone has erroneously managed to substitute one verse for another. In other words, instead of ending the hadith with the verse from Surah Al Kahf 18:86 the narrator replaced it with a verse from Surah Ya-Sin 36:38.
In analyzing the two hadiths (found in Abu Dawood #3991 and Musnad Ahmad #20933) that have this mistake - as opposed to the multiple hadiths that do not transfer the mistake - it becomes clear that the first source to report the hadith in the incorrect form is Al Hakam Al ‘Utaybah. His version is clearly a deviation from the multiple hadiths cited by other narrators. Additionally, he has only one person, Sufyan bin Hussain, narrating from him. While both narrators are generally considered reliable, there are a few scholars that voice some reservations about them. Following are the observations of the scholars about the two narrators:
Al Hakam Al ‘Utaybah
Abu Hatim bin Hibban Al Yasti said: “He used to engage in Tadlees (i.e. implying that a hadith comes from someone when it didn’t or being ambiguous about the source or omitting a weak narrator who was in between two reliable narrators who have met each other).”
Abdul Rahman bin Mahdi said: “Steadfast reliability but vary meanings of hadith.”
Ibn Hajar said: “Steadfast trustworthiness, jurist, except he may have committed Tadlees.”
Sufyan bin Hussain
Muhammad Ibn Sa’d said: “He was reliable but made many mistakes in [transmitting] hadiths.
Ibn Hajar Al Asqalani said: “Yaqoub bin Sheebah said, ‘honest, reliable and in his hadiths there are weaknesses.’ ‘Uthman bin Abi Sheebah declared him, ‘reliable except he used to be a bit confused/disorderly.'”
So while Al Albani (ra) certifies that the chain of narrators is solid, its contents come into question along with any potential flaws contributing to the problem. The point here is not to shed a negative light upon these narrators but to put in perspective that an error was made and because of their noted flaws this may have been the reason this version of the hadith developed. Keep in mind, there are multiple versions of this hadith but without the words “the sun sets in a warm spring.” When one seeks this hadith in Muslim (ra) and Bukhari (ra) there is no mention of the phrase. These two sources are the most authentic books of hadith and must be given proper consideration.
Lastly, it is clear that with the number of hadiths that report it differently than the one cited above combined with the fact that they come from only one narrator who was also criticized, makes the case that this hadith has been reported wrongly. Thus, the “critics” of Islam have no basis to their argument if they have not appreciated the actual statement of the hadith. Had they attempted to understand better they may have realized that the hadith in question is unreliable.
Read from islamic sources clown, dont be loke your friend in the video😂
@@hangkongkang the hadith I quoted is the only one that agrees with your qurans because the qurans also say the sun sets in a pool of water 🤣
@@hangkongkang
The hadith I quoted is a sahih hadith. Stop doing taqi-yya and copypasting from apologetics websites
May Allah guide you! This is just sad! I feel sorry for this guy. Alhamdullah and may Allah keep us on the right path till we meet him 🙏🏻
His idea of debate.
Him: I’M RIGHT, YOUR WRONG AND ACCEPT MY IDEA. Thank you , have good day.
A Lawyer come to court with evidence to incriminate himself. Bummer 😢
I thought I was going crazy! I knew this video was taken down and then re uploaded. I couldn’t find it for a whole day.
Alhamdulilah for Islam for it is THE TRUTH!
Bhai 6 billion people don’t believe in Islam
@@mumbaiatheist2384 that is their issue.
The truth is not based on numbers.
@@mumbaiatheist2384
6 billion people are wrong then.
@@Rain_21truth is based on evidence..and 6 billion don’t believe because there’s no evidence….it’s your claim,statistics are different
You all don't understand that the modern day traditional arabic ( the one of the quran ) by himself was the Qurayshite's Clan Dialect and there were many others dialects depending the tribe and region you're from trough all the arabian peninsula. Theses Dialects are more nabateans related for the ishmaelites tribes, and others are more sabaeans old southarabians related for the qhatannis tribes ( the ones from the ancient aadites and thamudites ). Traditional Arabic by itself is a descendant language of Nabatean Aramaic Dialect ( canaanites based alphabets like hebrew and punic, unlike syriac that were cuneiform babylonian based so purely semitic scripture without the system scripture brought by the Hyeroglyphs from their much older cousins ancestry that too descended originally from sumeria, the berbers/canaanites, the coptics and the kushitics. According to most of graduate scholars and linguists specialists of afroasiatics languages, the traditional arabic which is a descendant of aramaic nabatean, observed and taked mostly the forms of scriptures of the qhatannis tribes ( not the kushitics, the sabaeans that predated them and were 100% semitics, not related to the hyeroglyphs system ancestry ), and so traditional arabic is much more closer to the original aramaic with syriac both asides, than hebrew, punics or old nabateans. This is fact !
baraka ALLAHU fikoum
A touch of knowledge is very dangerous. These guy reminds me of all the village Indians who came across social media circa 2010s and desihnated themselves experts on all matters.
Barakallahu feek akhi imran ❤
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It would be nice if every discussion or debate in speakers corner end with respect and love like this one.
Let him talk till end..shake his hand, leave him and smile..hehee😂😂
12:2
Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand.
@Toronado2
To Brother IMRAN;
A Script is just that. A bunch of scribbles that we can decipher and vocalize into sound waves or thought waves. That is why we can use the English Script and get across what we mean when we say "Muhammed" or "Mohammad" or "Machamad" or "Machmad". We understand that the "SCRIPT" is NOT the LANGUAGE. The Language is The terms that are Vocalized and the Script can be in any FORM. It just so happens that the Arabic Script was took on an official status as the Muslim Governments established themselves in time. the Russian Script is "Мохаммад" for Muhammad.
However the Arabic Language itself is probably older than the other Semitic Languages, BECAUSE it was more preserved than Hebrew and Aramaic. It was spoken in the areas where there was LESS influence from other Languages like Persian, Greek, Roman, Egyptian and so on
The Name Abraham is definitely NOT Hebrew as;
"According to the Cambridge Bible Commentary, “[t]here is no such word as raham meaning ‘a multitude.’” The Catholic Encyclopedia is similarly defeatist: “The meaning given to Abraham in Genesis 17:5 is popular word play, and the real meaning is unknown.”
Armstrong Institute of Biblical Archeology.
But it is in Arabic. According to the same Site;
"Arabic Answer?
Abraham is not just father to the Jews. He is also father to the Arab peoples through his son Ishmael (and father to many more peoples besides-even the Spartans, at least according to their third-century b.c.e. King Areus i).
This Arabic connection is actually a fairly standard answer to the patriarch’s name. As is briefly brought out by the following commentaries:"
Armstrong Institute of Biblical Archeology.
You should check out this site for a better comprehensive answer to the Gary come lately.
I cant believe this kind of person really exist, its not eyes that blind but hearts
Gary Google doesn't understand what is meant by "reference"".
Astagfiroullah, he is soo confident in his own stupidity.... unfortuntely there is nothing usefull to argue with him... wassalam
Bhai 6 billion people think the same about Muslims…haha
Ya Allah your the one who gave us Islam as a religion and I'm eternally grateful for your mercy on me and my family.
Allah akbar
Please brother we need a part 2
لا اله الا الله وحده لا شريك له
And he too is man’s creation…
@@mumbaiatheist2384 the CREATOR is NOT the creation learn the difference between the two
30 seconds in and I know he is speaking nonsense 😂
May Allah guide you he isnt speaking nonsense the entire qur'an was written in the lifetime of rasulullah sallalahu aleyhi wa salam you should be ashamed of yourself at this point.
Shaykh Mustafa Azami rahimahullah in his book the history of the qur'an proves that the qur'an was written ENTIRELY in the lifetime of rasulullah sallalahu aleyhi wa salam BUT it wasnt compiled into "one book"/one work until hazrat Abu Bakr radiallahu 'an became caliph. And i cant share the book and the images here on youtube but i will show you ONE of the many evidences the shaykh gave. Btw this is common knowledge there is no difference of opinions on this.
sunnah.com/muslim:2465a
And just to quote you one passage from the book:
"Though the Prophet enlisted all possible measures to preserve the Qurʾān, he did not bind all the sūras together into one master volume, as evidenced by Zaid bin Thābit’s statement that,
“The Prophet was taken [from this life] whilst the Qurʾān had not yet been collected into a book.”
*Note the usage of ‘collected’ rather than ‘written’.*
Commenting on
this Imam al-Khaṭṭābī rahimahullah (earliest commentator of sahih al bukhari) says
“This quote refers to [the lack of] a specific book with traits. *the Qur'an has indeed been written down IN IT'S ENTIRETY from the lifetime of rasulullah* sallalahu aleyhi wa salam but had not been collected together nor were the surah arranged".
Conclusion? Be ashamed of yourself for calling nonsense what was the haqq. The muslim was wrong in the start. However from 5 minutes to the end of the video the nonmuslim was wrong on everything. I suggest you learn your religion properly instead of putting laughing emoji.
Narrated Abu Dharr: I was sitting behind the Messenger of Allah (🐷) who was riding a donkey while the sun was setting. He asked: Do you know where this sets ? I replied: Allah and his Apostle know best. He said: It sets in a spring of warm water (Hamiyah). -Sunan Abi Dawud 4002;
@@Alonzo-Harris Could you show me how that hadith is truthful please ?
@@yasaz6929
You sound like an abdul
@Alonzo-Harris Sahih Bukhari it goes as;
Sufyan (al-Thawri)- Al-A’mash- Ibrahim (b. Yazid al-Taymi)- Yazid al-Taymi- Narrated Abu Dharr: The Prophet asked me at sunset, "Do you know where the sun goes (at the time of sunset)?" I replied, "Allah and His Messenger know better." He said, "It goes (i.e. travels) till it prostrates Itself underneath the Throne and takes the permission to rise again, and it is permitted and then (a time will come when) it will be about to prostrate itself but its prostration will not be accepted, and it will ask permission to go on its course but it will not be permitted, but it will be ordered to return whence it has come and so it will rise in the west. And that is the interpretation of the Statement of Allah: "And the sun is quickly proceeding towards its destination. That is the designing of the All-Mighty, the All-Knowing. " (36.38) (Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Hadith 421)
I can deal with people that are ignorant. I can deal with people that are arrogant. What I can't deal with are people who are both ignorant and arrogant. The lack of self-awareness is insane.
May Allah guide Gary.
The infamous Gary Google and his iPad mini 😂
mashaAllah brother Abbas is rocking the white hair ! Br Abbas if you are reading this, the white hair looks waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better on you.
Where is the independent source? I'm still waiting.
لاحول ولا قوة إلا بالله العلي العظيم
Haven't deeply researched the matter, but regarding the written in syriac or arabic part. It may be about the alphabet, not the language. I could write french with the Russian alphabet, but it does not mean that what i wrote was written in the Russian language. Also a mistake the atheist made, he claimed the Nabataeans lived after the 6th century, but the Nabataeans are way older than that.
Salams brothers. Why didn’t you guys hit him with the Birmingham Quran? That’s dated to the time of the Prophet saws. Conversation over.
I admire the atheist, who speak with logic and have clarity. Muslims are all confuse, the one who are not confuse or no longer Muslim
Gary Google classic. The guy pretends to be academic but clearly isnt. Also ++ to Abbas silver fox mode
I hate it when someone says he wants a conservation and not let others speak
If he's trying to have a conversation and the other person says things that are wrong.......he should interrupt him. Otherwise, the guy will spend 10 minutes talking about things that are wrong.
@@scottholder4431 then why bother talk with him if ge isnt ready to listen.
@@mahdibarham8636 That's not what I said. You didn't understand my comment.
@@mahdibarham8636 I was pointing out that if you start talking and you are making invalid claims.......I should interrupt you.
Because if I don't......then you may continue to speak for 10 minutes about things that are wrong.
@@scottholder4431 you arent that good at conservations arent you. And what claims are wrong in the video. He didnt let him say anything because he cant handle a single sentence
but that was actually Arabic , it is Kufi script what he showed on his Ipad , sorry to say but all of you forgot to mention that Arabic as language and Arabic script are separate , early Arabic was oral and also written in different scripts , same as you use Latin Alphabet to write English .
Allah has granted to immense patience to listen to this maniac. I could never.
It’s the atheists who have given liberal, democratic secular laws under which even Muslims can criticise other religions including atheism..Will Muslims ever allow atheists to criticise Islam while living in Muslim countries? You bet we are aware of the consequences
Garys line up is crazy
Is this an old clip with garry google?
Samuel L. Jackson lookalike crashes into the wall but he doesn't realize it.
الله اكبر
43:09 Professor?! OOOOOHHHHHH 😂
"I don't know where that's come from. It's on your ipad, its even a mini not even a big one" 😂
Is this a Old video or is Gary Google back in the park?
This guy doesn't know how references work.
Brother abbas looking so different with his white hair. Suits him
This guy is a heckler, don’t waste your time
He said he is a lawyer, my goodness
To my brothers in this channel im providing very important information regarding this topic… please be aware that the alphabet that we use in arabic language now is basically invented by the sons of nabeth, and nabeth is the son of the prophet Ishmael. Who ever thinks that Nabatean is not arab is delulu cuz Nabateans are the descendants of nabeath son of Ishmael who lived north of Saudi Arabia, and this is the mistake that i saw in this dialogue which is that nabateans are not arab…! And the discourse was built on wrong information … so the arabic alphabet goes back to us Arab 👌
Ja Rule came in with his screenshots on his iPad 🤣😂🤣😂
Ive seen the script he is showing and it is 100% arabic and i can read it , it is just arabic letters without the dots it's like saying " | am arab|c nat|ve " i am sure you understood what i wrote
29:43 i can’t believe he literally read that statement very very wrong to suite it to his interpretation. He literally gave it totally a different meaning to it. 🤦♂️
The amount of art and effort he put into that bick makes me laugh hard 😂😂
To the "atheist" brother, say what you say in the video 100 years from now without crying. I feel sorry for anyone who ridicule the Creator.
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That guys logic. I dont understand arabic. Let me study from non arabic (independent) sources.
that guys is real deal, he can find Quran in aramaic from 5century BC
The first who spoke Arabic is prophet Adam peace be upon him
It's not the eye... It's the heart...
This seems like a very old videos, like from the early 2010s’s. It doesn’t seem to be from 2022/2023.
He was afraid to ask "Why?"
Gary Google Hold this L
My Christian brother looks like a good cricketer
God all mighty creator…put on its place every language his creation speaks ….thats is the meaning god all mighty creator…..
god want you to read his story not create his story
@@batakrghabik635gods story is written by man ..haha and 6 billion people don’t believe in Islamic god…so your god failed to convince 6 billion people of his existence
@mumbaiatheist2384 notice how the muslim didn't respond to you lol
I wanna see this "lawyer" perform in court.
Tell him to research the Jurham tribe where Ismail (pbuh) learned Arabic from.
When other people quotes a professor, he said who he is, when he quotes another professor, the professor is a world renown.
What a hypocrite
Brother Imran this atheist was just trying to frustrate you and thanks for keeping your cool. I think he has a problem understanding the contextual meaning of how the author constructs their sentences to make their argument. He has already made up his mind that Arabic wasn't spoken in the Arabian peninsula.
Haven't seen the lawyer in a while 😂
*Pay attention to* it very closely and
Carefully
Ever Heard
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*Your*
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*Song*
With
The
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Could you call it out?
ya Shiekh how is it 9 days ago your hair and beard are not as white as it is in this video.
Is this guy the new Gary Google?
An arrogant lawyer will win anyone's case in the court.
This guy is one man show.
Monologue
Is this guy gary really a lawyer ?? Hes said it for years ?? Has anyone actually verified it ?
Bhai we have definitely verified your god and found zero evidence of its creation…your god is also one of the 2500 imaginary gods
@mumbaiatheist2384 ... you must be on drugs you keep posting silly comments. 2500 ? Where did you get that from
This is an oldie, but a goodie.
Apparently he is a lawyer
Perhaps (often) will those who disbelieve wish that they were Muslims [those who have submitted themselves to Allah's Will in Islam Islamic Monotheism, this will be on the Day of Resurrection when they will see the disbelievers going to Hell and the Muslims going to Paradise].
How did you determine this 'Allah' is a reality?
Is this harlem legend from 050movement
The guy with the iPad is like talking to a bat.
Gary google is back
At least the Christian guy done some research.
Why would God reveal his last message in a language that was not completely ready at the time for writing. Someone had to add the dots and dashes later.