Sam your not catholic if you don't believe in the 250 + Catholic Dogmas. If your not 100% sure about Papal infallibility & the " Folilioque" ect....or you say you could change your mind about the Catholic faith..then YOU CAN'T partake of the Eucharist. 9:14
Wasn't there a Famous Rabii who Lived to be 100yrs old and ppl thought he was a Messiah and he left a letter when he died saying Jesus is god and will return - anybody know his name?
I've tried! I tried to use more damming proof, which is the 3300yo torah codes found by Rabbi Glazerson, to show the orthodox jews in Flagstaff, Az , and after I moved, I tried using Facebook. I received one response from the rabbi, but he would never say another word because he gets all his money, all the money that built that multi-million dollar synagogue from the most corrupt group of NY Jews that will never debate anything with anyone. They get real drunk every Sabbath, and eat very lavish meals. They catered food in there which had to be very expensive. I sat right next to them, detailing the discoveries in the Torah codes and it was in one ear, out the other. Even without the torah codes, there are facts that point to Yeshua being the savior. The first letters of the names of all the rabbis. Do you know about this one? The truth in their faces and they still do not care. It's a cult for them. Self worship, which is no different than Satan worship.
Amen 🙏 bring forth my sons and daughters from afar, even everyone who is called by MY name. Let ALL the Nations be gathered, let the people be assembled. We welcome all our brothers and sister from around the world called for salvation.
If Jesus is a false Messiah then every Jewish prophet has utterly failed to predict his coming. You'd think they'd put a little warning in the Torah about him....
Jesus is the Messiah and the Jews knows this. Its just they dont want to follow him, because that means that Jews will NO LONGER HAVE ANY POWER IN THE MATERIAL WORLD. So they REJECTED the Messiah, not that they did not know about Him - THEY REJECTED HIM. Thats the biggest problem here. They knew EXACTLY Who is Christ, who came in the body of Emanuel.
The God of this world is blinding carnel minds and takes hold roots and impregnates lost souls The great deception The Jews will first welcome the false Messiah the beast of Revelation... Then acknowledge the real Jesus who is coming through the clouds of Israel
@@Truthstter No no, thats just from what happened. Its not something ,,not known". its just different perspective. They ordered His death.... you have to understand that during this time - this was the Darkest Hour of Human History - thats when Christ came. All people were literally slaved to the Demons. They (the bosses of Fariseyan and Sadokeyans) knew EXACTLY who is in front of them. The Fariseyans and Sadokeyans hated Christ the most - today - they control the Financial, Economical sphere of life. Their Friends - from Vatican control the Spiritual Sphere and so on. Canaan from the Bible are today - Greeks, Phoenicians, Late Rome, Later Eastern Rome, Late Ottoman Empire, Later British Empire, and today late USA..... When they come on power - they Twist the original Idea and remove GOD atheistic ideologies (or twist it with Babylonian cults) Statue of Liberty - the perfect example.
@@Truthstter It's speculation. But we know that the Jewish Messiah was supposed to come 2000 years ago according to the prophets. All rabbis know this as well. It's out of stubbornness they refuse to acknowledge Jesus and out of stubbornness they keep waiting for a messiah they know won't come.
No matter how much evidence you show them, they will not be convinced. The evil ones have blinded them and made them deaf to the Truth. “They have eyes yet will not see. They have ears but will not hear.”
Read Rom 9-11 and Zechariah 12. “do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you.”
That's because growing up they were told that christian's are wrong and christian's have been bad to jews for thousands of years. They are then told that God promised THE JEWS to be the chosen people and that christian's are just trying to extend that to the entire world. It's hard to break down that wall they have.
Sam is extremely knowledgeable and I truly enjoy his debates. Just one thing he needs to adjust is a bit of patience. As an audience we also learn from the arguments of the guests and how to refute them. We can’t learn if the guest isn’t given time to expound on his arguments. 2 Tim 2:24-26 And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth, and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will.
You can learn from your own study. His aggressive debate style is better suited for these end times than a patient style. A lot of the people he debates are particularly stubborn, and there really isn’t a lot of time left for them to be convinced that Jesus is the Lord and only path to salvation. Sam’s a real warrior, here to show the doubters the strength of Christ.
@@MrMarbles0Xecution no need to be rude in your response. We all learn from each other as a body of Christ. Patience is a fruit of the Holy Spirit, I’m not sure why anyone would resist a recommendation for it.
What I've seen is that the second in which they tell a lie or show any sign of arrogance he becomes very angry. Because he knows they are wasting his time, and they're all just parroting demons. If someone is actually humble and asks or is open minded he is patient and even loving. He has personal problems too and feels like he's useless when they make him waste his time (probs) That's the only reason I haven't critized him. I do critize the insults as that is incorrect regardless of their offense
Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect, keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander. 1 Peter 3.
This exchange right here is why modern Jews answer a question with a question. It's because they have no answers. The reason they have no answers is because they deny Jesus. Jesus is always the answer
200-700 years after. It was a work in progress over those years. They had to spend half a millennia to come up with some type of explanation for what just happened lol
@@jillhurst7390 Amen I agree we are not GOING TO WIN HEARTS BY ARGUING AND CALLING THEM NAMES MAKES US NI DIFFERENT THEN THE WORLD. Jesus never argued with ANYONE HE SPOKE TRUTH IN LOVE ! This is a pride thing sorry losing my respect for Sam
@ Amen he did not we speak Truth in Live our words are powerful and our actions Sorry Jesus said you go in a house try talk to them they don’t Believe dust your feet off keep it moving . I watch so I learn how to PREACH IN LOVE TO SOME MUSLIM JEWISH OR WHOEVER I DO LEARN GOOD POINTS Im definitely a Evangelist I love to share Gods word but I hate the heated arguments and name calling makes no sense makes the Christian look so bad . I heard Sam’s excuse you don’t know what they write me Jesus told us they Persecuted him and they will Persecuted ALL WHO FOLLOW HIM ! Pray they see the PRIDE IN THIS
When someone starts off telling lies in an effort to obscure the Truth, you expose them and cut them off. No Truth comes from a deceitful tongue. Great job Sam, in The Mighty Name of Jesus!!! Amen
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A warrior does not operate like a fool and spoiled brat like this dude. A warrior is calm and collected in his purpose and does not have verbal diarrhea like this dude. A warrior embodies certain characteristics such as bravery, strength, and honor. This dude have nothing of this.
When you debate as many arrogant narcissists as Sam does, let's see you do it different then. Also, what difference would it make? No matter how nice you are, you will not affect someone who doesn't want to listen, period. Tell it like it is
Theyre all Muslim or Christian countries though. Christians killed anyone who was not Christian accept for Jews who they sometimes kicked out. Muslims did similar. Killing anyone not of Abrahamic faith but kicking out Jews and Christians sometimes. I'm sure the latest push of Christians from most middle eastern countries is due to the terrible behaviour of the Christians. Make it make sense
I think he is used to the tactics they use to avoid the truth. Their usual tricks fail and they start muddying the waters. He is being intolerant because their teaching / understanding is leading people astray. Time is short, and there isn’t time for these games.
@@paulakapablo1749 What's the point of debating if you don't allow the other person to talk? He's extremely rude which makes these difficult to watch.
Christians have been pretty evil to Jews throughout history since 300AD when Rome took over. Some Christians burned some Jews alive. Their hearts are open to Jesus, but their eyes are blind. Jews are the exact opposite of Muslims whose eyes are open but hearts are blind. Muslim apologists, Norwegian chess fans and Western secular liberals are the modern day Pharisees Sadducees described in John 1:29, 4:22, 8:44, 8:58, 10:26, 10:30, 1 John 2:22, 4:3, 2 John 1:7, Revelation 2:9, 3:9, 22:18-19, etc.
2 Corinthians 4:4 whose unbelieving minds the god of this world hath blinded, lest the light of the glorious Gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
@@aquavitae3824 pray for Christians too. Whenever a Christian does something evil especially to Jews or Israel the more the hearts of Jews will be hardened. Look now what so called Christians like Pope Francis Joe Biden Kamala Harris Candace Owens have said about Jews & Israel in the past year
You can't generalize, there are great Rabbis and Stupid Rabbis, it's a whole world. Anyway this one didn't get a fair chance to talk, he was disrespected and interrupted sistematicaly
I watched a lot Sam videos BUT GOD KEPT NUDGING ME , it’s not the way WE WIN HEARTS CALLING MUSLIMS NAMES OR JEWS OR ANYONE NAMES BECAUSE THEY DONT AGREE WITH YOU ! IWE ARE TO PLANT AND WATER GOD MAKES THEM GROW ! We win hearts not arguments IN LOVE , NOT BY PUTTING PEOPLE DOWN CALL THEM STUPOD PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO SEE ANYTHING DIFFERENT IN YOU THEN THE WORLD REALLY SO SAM I PRAY YOU READ THIS AND GOD MOVES YOUR HEART I REALLY SEE SO MUCH PRIDE IN YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS ,YOUR IN MY PRAYERS
@@leslieseptember6050 amen Pope Francis I’m sorry is WAY OFF PROBABLY CAUSE HE IS HIMSELF WHAT HE SAYS IS OK GAY MARRIAGE ARE YOU KIDDING ME WHERE IS THAT IN THE BIBLE NO WHERE TRUST ME I JUST ASKED A CATHOLIC how SHE WILL get to heaven SHE say well you go to purgatory first then your good deeds get you out 59 years every week in church she did not know ABOUT GRACE ! I WAS NOT SHOCKED I USUALLY ASK A CATHOLIC AND THEY ALWAYS SAY GOOD WORKS AND I SAY IF IT IS GOOD WORKS CHRIST DIED FOR NOTHING THEN ! I WENT to Catholic school and church we learned cadicism ONLY THE PRIEST COULD READ THE BIBLE WHEN I WAS A KID 50 yrs ago ! I pray for the CATHOLIC ATTENDEES GOD OPENS THEIR EYES TO HIS TRUTH ! Pray they stop putting the THE POPE on a PEDESTAL AND PRAY TO HIM WHAT HE SAYS TI THEM IS GOSPEL IN SPITE OF WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS , also PRAYING To SAINTS not for the saints AND THE LIST GOES ON BLESS THEM JESUS OPEN THEIR EYES 🙏🏽
People have to learn to speak, let the other finish and then refute rather than constant interruptions, I miss the greatest&silent generation in that regard, it all went out of the window after the boomers took hold.
I have watched a few of these videos now. Seriously. Mocking people with click bait title headings. Coming across as arrogant, especially when you say "you know more than them!" Then cutting them up when they speak. This is not treating people with patience and respect. You might be knowledgeable, but having the patience of the Holy Spirit is not there!
Listen while I’m a Christian and I support the intensity of study that it took for Sam to get to this level of competency, the arrogance of this man and the treatment of anyone who is debating him with this constant condescending comments is just really disappointing
It makes me cringe it's so passive aggressive and it's him that tends to escalate the discussion, to me it's like a cop out now. I really like Sam, I wish someone close would tell him.
@@sinsfast5435 I have to disagree, Sam obviously has serious mental health issues, apparently he even said it the other day. He's a Christian, he should be better.
Sam does cut to chase ! Love it ! He can smell the bs on arrival very quick and have no time to waste . I admire him for that . Just discovered him recently. I’m traditional Catholic surrounded mostly by the “ look warm “. No need to say it what Jesus think of those . Pax to all . Christ is King ! Regards from Poland
If Christians really knew what the Ultra Orthodox Jews believe in, no Christian would want to conform to these Orthodox Jews! It is therefore the advice to Christians to pray for these Jews that their ears, eyes and hearts may be opened by the Holy Spirit and that they may discover the Truth about the True Messiah and salvation through 'The Word!'
I have some understanding of the Jewish religion. I am very aware of all the obvious downfalls of rabbinic teachings. It is very intimidating, and I am glad that you are strong in God in facing it, so that we too can be strong in God against it.
This reminds me of when the Pharisees were arguing with the Sadducees. We all come from the same God, who is the God of Abraham, but we all hate each other because we all want to interpret the writings for ourselves. The WORD of the LORD says: Worship and obey ME by dropping your prideful interpretive skills and loving your brother. I tell you; love your enemies, but by this, I mean; Do not have any enemies. I want you to be pure of heart; both toward ME and toward MY creation. My creation includes your brothers and sisters. I do not care about what you believe about my nature or about the nature of the Messiah that was written about. My WORD was written down so that you would all come to a knowledge of ME. Not so that you can all fight over your interpretation of ME and My redemptive Messiah. You will all see Him coming with the clouds at MY appointed time. STOP creating sects for yourselves and teach your brothers and sisters about MY commands.
No matter what position a person has in an argument (discussion with evidence) both sides have to put their preconceived notions, beliefs, and "want it to be" in a box in order to hear what the other side is saying. Then take what was heard and fact check it through research.
Is the prestige of other people more important to you than sharing the gospel and the truth?? When a rabbi spreads nonsensical things and lies, it is sometimes necessary to correct this with harsher words, otherwise it will not reach the recipient. Finally, gentle healers make stinking wounds! People may disagree with Sam's action, but Sam is one of the few who preaches the Gospel to millions of people, so let's be careful in our judgment of our brother Sam.
When Jesus (in relation of David ) revealed himself and said to Paul (whose name is shaul, like the king) why do you persecute me? It was as if David asked saul at his time why he did it, it's a parallel story and both shaul's are from the tribe of Benjamin. Sam 9:1, Rom 11:1
Continuation of Argument against virgin birth in Isaiah 7: 4. The verses also indicate that there is an immediate relevance with the sign and the impending threat, as it says, “For, when the lad does not yet know to reject bad and choose good, the land whose two kings you dread, shall be abandoned.”(Isaiah 7:16) This implies that that God will take care of Ahaz's enemies just before the child is able to distinguish between good and bad. (Sign = dealing with threat) Now, if the matter is contingent upon Jesus’ birth, 700 years later, before he distinguishes between good and bad, this would render his enemies perishing utterly impertinent. For the verse would then be saying, “Don’t worry your enemies will only be destroyed in another 700 years! By that time, everyone will be long gone, himself included. Therefore, the sign cannot be associated to Ahaz in a manner that deals with the future, being that the sign is bound to the enemies he now faces, and the requirement of dealing with his enemies is incongruent to 700 years later. (Based on Isaiah 7:14-17) To summarize, the “sign” clearly deals with his enemies, and the enemies cannot be dealt with when everyone is already long gone, 700 years in the future! Hence, again, by introducing the consideration of the Davidic line’s survival with a virgin birth 700 years in the future, shatters the unambiguous connection between the sign and the enemies being dealt with, whereby the context is rendered unintelligible, therefore, we have every reason not to insert this assertion. 5. Furthermore, another very important example of how the sign must entirely be relevant to Ahaz. In verse 7 it is stated, “So said the Lord God, 'Neither shall it succeed, nor shall it come to pass.” This is referring to the plans of Rezin, king of Aram, and Pekah son of Remaliah, king of Israel, with their ally Efraim. They won’t succeed in harming him. A concern for the “Davidic line supported by a virgin birth 700 years in the future” is impertinent to his being harmed, being that they are not mutually exclusive; because he may be harmed, yet, the Davidic line would still survive. Again, the Davidic line and future virgin birth, completely disregard the context, leaving them utterly implausible. Therefore, you are coerced to say, that when God sends him a sign, the sign will support the very thing God spoke about. This is the only concern God himself mentioned. Consequently, the sign can only be that which addresses this matter, and this matter only. Remember, the sign must corroborate him not getting harmed. The fact that he has a descendant born of a virgin 700 years later, in no way assures his immediate safety. He may perish, yet, might have many descendants. The two have no pertinence. (Based on Isaiah 7:7 and 7:14) 6. Furthermore, and very importantly, as someone proficient in ancient Hebrew, this interpretation can never see the light of day, as the word used here for “virgin”, does not mean virgin. The etymology of the word almah/עלמה, doesn’t in any way indicate virginity. The root word is “עלם”, a primitive root signifying strength and endurance, hence, youth. As in, ״…and they will also believe in you forever/לעולם/leolam”, (Exodus 19:9), from the root עלם. We can appreciate how the root word conveys nothing about virginity, but rather strength and endurance, vigor, henceforth, a youth. (This is unlike the root for betulah/בתולה, from the root בתל, a primitive root signifying “separate and or secluded”, an etymological cognate of the root badal/בדל, which conveys a similar meaning, namely, “separate and divide”. Each expressing, however, a different type of separation. One exclusively used to express chastity.) We can appreciate how the root word conveys nothing about virginity, but rather strength and endurance, vigor, henceforth, a youth. There is a vast amount of evidence that can be provided regarding this last point, however, this would be another discussion entirely. 7. Moreover, and this is a very important point, the word “THE ALMA העלמה”, translated as “virgin” by the church, is written with what’s referred to in hebrew as “ה הידיעה”, literally, “the knowledgeable hei”, or, in english, a definite article, which unquestionably implies something previously mentioned or known, thus, a “known virgin or previously mentioned virgin”, and not some unspecified virgin of the future, which would have been expressed simply as “ALMA עלמה. Now, being that the wicked Ahaz certainly had no conception and knowledge about this alleged future virgin, and no mention was made of her previously, the use of the definite article is most definitely unjustified. (According to the traditional translation, however, which translates, “the young woman”, no difficulty is encountered, and the definite article is even necessary! Obviously, by using the definite article, It implies a young woman known to Ahaz at the time, not some unknown woman that has to be randomly sought; albeit, that the text doesn’t specify who she is exactly, it’s safe to assume, being that she’s obviously known to him, and that the text relates his knowledge of her to us, that the most “known woman” without elucidating, would be either Ahaz’s own wife, or, Isaiah’s wife, or, possibly, another young woman with that very aspect and degree of “knowledge”. Undeniably, it’s someone Ahaz is very cognizant of and could expect to find pregnant at any time, even if at this point it wasn’t crystal clear, once the child will be born and named among the very narrow window of women, it would retroactively be recognized; and this knowledge would even be acquired once one of these known women reach advanced pregnancy, for he would then expect to experience the sign through her. Either way, the sign would be quite pertinent, anticipated, and experienced.)
@@polarfamily6222 how can they keep on point if there constantly interrupted with how bad he’s gonna crush they’re false god. He interrupts and insults. He seems to be more informed on the subject but he has zero patience. He gets mad that people don’t talk like him.
Second modified approach: Another possible manner in which Christians try to resolve the glaring difficulties inherent by inserting Jesus into the equation, is through the claim of a “dual prophecy”. A prophecy that has two applications, two fulfillments. 1. Why should we assume that there are two fulfillments of this prophecy ? There appears to be absolutely no reason to assume such an interpretation, other than, a will to insert Christian theology. 2. If dual prophecy were to have application, one could arbitrarily insert whatever he desires, wherever he wants. Can we honestly consider this mode of interpretation ? 3. As we said in note 1, there is no reason to apply dual prophecy. In fact, being that the context clearly refers to an event occurring in the now, this would preclude any suggestion of “another prophecy”. (First point is, on what basis assume a dual prophecy ? Current point is that the context inhibits such an assertion) By applying the context, dual prophecy becomes patently superfluous. There is no reason to believe in dual prophecy because there is no room in the text to insert it, the context would contend such an assertion and leave no room for it. How so? If the intent is, as well, to a future prophecy, 700 years later, this is incongruent, for Ahaz requires only a sign relavent to him. It’s utterly superfluous to allude to some virgin birth 700 years in the future. The context isn’t leaving any room. (Based on general context) 4. Ahaz is currently surrounded by enemies he doesn’t need an allusion to some virgin birth 700 years in the future. Still no room for Jesus. (Based on Isaiah 7:2)I 5. God wants to mend Ahaz’s fear about impeding war, it’s utterly superfluous to mention a virgin birth 700 years in the future. (Based on Isaiah 7:4) 6. The sign is relevant to before when this child will distinguish between good and bad, at that time Ahaz’s enemies will fall, there is no reason to allude to a virgin birth 700 hundred years in the future. (Based on Isaiah 7:15-16)
2 Timothy 2:24 And the Lord's servant[e] must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, 25 correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth
I once commented on that same rabbi in one of his spanish videos. He is very misinformed and hasn’t read the New Testament. He would blaspheme the Name of Jesus a lot. We have to pray for him
What's his name? He looks exactly like Carl Delgadillo (Baca) a Nicaraguan Christian that convert to Judaism in the early 2000 in Toronto. Is it the same person?
Wasn't there a Famous Rabii who Lived to be 100yrs old and ppl thought he was a Messiah and he left a letter when he died saying Jesus is god and will return - anybody know his name?
1 Corinthians 1:10 King James Bible Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment
Many people will come from the east and from the west and will sit and eat with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. But those people who should be in the kingdom will be thrown outside into the darkness, where people will cry and grind their teeth with pain.” Then Jesus said to the officer, “Go home.
@@ryanferguson9249 It's actually leading that Jesus was not the blood thirsty Yaweh's son. The Bible has been manipulated. And whoever put it together corrupted Jesus's character.
@@steveg3885 It hasn't been manipulated. It was compiled tons of manuscripts of contradicting manuscripts that were all mish-mashed together into one contradictory body.
Our old syrian orthodox priest used to tell us God the father asked adam and all his offspring have sinned who will go to remove their sinns and save them? The son answered: I do.
(@3:34) SAM IS A PHENOM!!! Get ‘em Sir! Don’t never let them up from their propaganda. Get them Sam! I pray that God sends many Blessings upon Bishop Mari Mari and Sam Shamoun. I pray for their PROTECTION Dear Lord. I pray that you bestow upon them many Blessings. I pray this in the name Yeshua, Our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Amen.
Will be good if they can both extend the courtesy of actually listening to one another. Expecting it whilst refusing to do it, is rather confusing to me.
He is just circling around the question and the answers are in the screen and they keep denying it just like the muslims. Lol cp when he exposed an imam saying it does not say in their book when he showed it to the imam , the imam got angry and want to change the topic.
If you believe that the Jews that are in Israel are the chosen people you have not read the word of God. Satan is the father of Lies God talks about being blind you have to read the word of God you got to ask God to reveal himself his will and his truth to you. Peace and love God bless
Thus says The Lord: Even to this day, O Israel, you have not ceased from walking in the ways of your forefathers, stoning My prophets in word and by deed, seeking always to kill or imprison those sent to you. Have I not gathered you with a mighty hand from among the nations, restoring you to your own land, even granting you great increase? Yet you do not embrace Me, for you yet push out the hand against My Holy One; you refuse to drink from His cup. How long shall you seek to murder your King?! How long will you deny The Way I have set before you?! How long shall you blaspheme The Truth, Which I sent into the world to testify?!... YOU HAVE FORSAKEN LIFE! You refuse the blood I poured out for you!... O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, how long will you Let His blood drip from your fingers?! WASH YOURSELVES! MAKE YOURSELVES CLEAN! For I tell you the truth, the stain of your guilt remains, as you pass it from one generation to the next! Thus YOU fulfill the curse by which your forefathers had cursed themselves! YOU freed the murderer and condemned The Innocent! YOU murdered The Author of Life and hung your Salvation upon a tree, piercing His hands and His feet! excerpt from: www.thevolumesoftruth.com/A_Heavy_Stone,_a_Bitter_Burden
Love you Sam, he constantly attacks to christians denying the lord Jesus, blessed are you to stand to twose Ho dont know the scriptures and you being light to the
Continuation of second modified argument against a virgin birth in Isaiah 7: 7. Furthermore, and very importantly, as someone proficient in ancient Hebrew, this interpretation can never see the light of day, as the word used here for “virgin”, does not mean virgin. The etymology of the word almah/עלמה, is rooted in the word עלם/alam, a primitive root signifying “strength and endurance” (similar to the Aramaic עלים), hence, youth. As in, ״…and they will also believe in you forever/לעולם/leolam”(exodus 19:9), from the root עלם/alam, for endurance, strength, is rooted in עלם/alam. We can appreciate how the root word conveys nothing about virginity, rather it’s an expression of vigor, and, henceforth, a youth. There is a vast amount of evidence that can be provided regarding this last point, however, this would be another discussion entirely. 8. Furthermore, and very interestingly, if it’s a dual prophecy, what other virgin birth is being alluded to in Ahaz’s time? Isn’t there only one virgin birth? Only one Jesus ? All the more so, is this difficult, being that the main prophecy is undoubtedly for Ahaz, as clearly established contextually, this would imply that the principal “virgin birth” is relevant to Ahaz’s time. This last objection completely undermines the uniqueness of the Christian claim. It’s quite ironic, the answer they try to promote, actually creates the grounds to contradict Christianity at its core…..
Sam is no expert (by far) on biblical hebrew and will forever ignore or be ignorant about the correct meaning of the construct "et asher dakaru" which translated correctly means "regarding those whom they have pierced". If the verse meant to say "Me whom they have pierced", it would have been in correct biblical hebrew "Elai asher dakaru" rather than "Eli et asher dakaru". The addition of "et" renders the meaning "about whom" or "regarding". So you can see that sam is so confident of his mistranslation, but does not have a clue as to the false claim he is making ...
Sadly the first guy, in his channel in spanish, is always bashing christians and Christ. There are other jewish apologists who are more respectful. It surprized me to find him here.
The question I have for Sam is are the Jews still God's chosen people today? Since he says their rabbis are burning in hell, or does he believe only those who accept Jesus are currently and that only the ancient Israelites were chosen? Serious question that I don't know the answer to.
Is there even an allusion to a virgin birth in Isaiah 7? Regarding Isaiah 7:14, the context is utterly irrelevant to some future prophecy about a virgin birth. The chapter must be read in its proper context. The chapter deals with various enemies’ threats against Judah, and the ensuing wars. Verse 1 relates that Retzin king of Aram, and Pekah son Remalyahu, joined forces and sought to conquer Jerusalem. Verse 2 tells us that Ahaz and his people were terrified like “the trembling of the trees of the forest from the wind”. Verse 4 relates that Isaiah was to tell him “to stay calm and not to fear…” Verses 5-6 speak of their plot. Verse 7 recounts that their plot “..will not stand and it will not be..” 8-9 speaks of the conspirators being of no relevance to Jerusalem and their downfall. Verse 11 conveys that Ahaz should, “Ask for yourself a sign from the Lord, your God..”. To ask a sign for this prophecy. Verse 12 tells us that Ahaz decided not to ask or test God. Verse 13 has Isaiah insisting that he should ask. Verse 14 finally relates that a sign will be given anyways, that a child will be born to “THE ALMA העלמה”(with a definite article), and she will call him Immanuel (God is with us). (Alma literally means a young lady; the church m, of course, translates this as virgin) Verse 15 states that the child will eat butter and honey, from the moment he knows to distinguish good and bad, yet, before that moment arrives the two kings will have already disappeared. Now, according to the gospels, the correct understanding is that, “There will be a virgin birth a few hundred years down the line”. Let’s analyse this proposition: What about Ahaz’s concerns? Nah, God would rather tell him about some irrelevant virgin birth that will occur a few hundred years later. Ahaz shouldn’t be afraid of impending war because in a few hundred years Jesus is coming! This makes no coherent sense. Also, to make this unambiguous, it says, “For, when the lad does not yet know to reject bad and choose good, the land whose two kings you dread, shall be abandoned." (7:16) This implies that that God will destroy Ahaz's enemies just before the child is able to tell good from bad. This suggests, according to the the gospels, that Ahaz’s enemies will only be gone in a few hundred years, some time before Jesus will distinguish between good and bad, not only will they have disappeared long before this time, he, himself, will have also perished. This conveys nothing about his current predicament. This cannot be overlooked. In other words, the meaning of the verse would imply, “Ahaz don’t be afraid, actually, be very afraid ! This is pure butchery. (There is still a generous amount of difficulties to raise according to the straightforward understanding of the church, most of these questions, however, will be brought to light in the two modified approches in which apologists attempt to answer these very transparent problems) First modified approach: Or, perhaps, in order to make the context more relevant to the Christian interpretation, some could claim that Ahaz was concerned with the “Davidic dynasty”, that it shouldn’t perish, and that he was reassured by the sign of there being a virgin birth 700 years later, insinuating that the “Davidic line” will survive. 1. First off, there is absolutely no allusion in the text of Ahaz being concerned with the preservation of the “Davidic line”. (No, the fact that Ahaz and his family are referred to as “…the house of David…” when relating the prophecy (Isaiah 7:13), doesn’t signify anything, it was totally appropriate to refer to them as such, as they are, after all, the “house of David” ! Moreover, they where also referred to as “the house of David” even before this prophecy was uttered, “And it was told to the House of David, saying…” (Isaiah 7:2). You know why? For that same exact reason, because that’s exactly what they are ! There is nothing unusual or incoherent about the use of this terminology.) Rather, the only matter that could be derived from the verses, according to their simple meaning, is fear of immanent danger, as expressed by the members of Ahaz’s brethren, Ahaz included, who trembled from fear!! Even God tells him to calm down and not “FEAR”! There is no altruistic concern. The verses clearly speak of fear to the point of trembling, not some type of consideration for the future. As it says, “And it was told to the House of David, saying, "Aram has allied itself with Ephraim," and his heart and the heart of his people trembled as the trees of the forest tremble because of the wind.” (Isaiah 7:2) Also, “And you shall say to him, "Feel secure and calm yourself, do not fear, and let your heart not be faint…”. (Isaiah 7:4) The verses undoubtedly and clearly convey “fear”, fear of enemy attack. This cannot be overlooked. We can conclude that this assertion has no basis in reality. At this point we could actually stop, however, purely for argument’s sake, let us conjure that this consideration was present, aside for the fear. Very importantly, we can’t obviate his “fear”, nevertheless, perhaps we could say that he was genuinely concerned with the crown being snatched from David, as well? Can a concern for the Davidic line have any pertinence contextually, as we push further? 2. Now, even if this unfounded concern was true, the subject remains plagued with difficulties. Whether we say that he is “ALSO concerned with the Davidic line”, and, all the more so, if we say that he’s “ONLY concerned”, as it is actually contextually impossible, but let’s just say, what type of a sign is it if he can’t witness it !? Every sign, or OT/אות, given by God or the prophets in the Bible is something the individual witnesses, and whereby comes to trust. (Genesis 9:12; Exodus 4:8-9; Kings 2 20:8-9; Isaiah 66:19). A sign is suppose to create trust not be contingent upon trust, that defeats the purpose of a sign ! (Or, as in the case of circumcision or the Sabbath, and similar instances, where one is to provide a sign for God or others, it’s something that is done in a discernible way, or just present as a reminder. In any case, the sign is always in existence and experienced.) There are no examples of intangible “signs” one never experiences. In our case, Isaiah is providing a sign in God’s name regarding the veracity of his prophecy, it should be no different than any other sign provided by prophets which comes to certify the words of the prophecy, and is consequently something very much demonstrative that corroborates the prophecy. Two points: Providing anything that deviates from this formula doesn’t make any sense logically (defeats the purpose of the sign), and, moreover, conflicts with every instance of a “sign, OT/אות” recorded in the Bible (inconsistent with the blueprint). 3. Back to the “fear” element. If it can be demonstrated that by inserting a concern for the Davidic line, the contextually true “fear element” will be precluded, evidently, this would prove the implausibility of such an attempt. Remember, according to this approach, a virgin birth 700 years in the future, and a concern for the Davidic line, are contingent upon one another. Ahaz has enemies breathing down his neck, an immediate concern, the fact that the Davidic line survives 700 years later, does not in any way address the immediate need for protection. For it still doesn’t mean he will survive his enemies’ attacks, it just means the line will somehow survive. Granted, that he was also concerned for the Davidic line, as we postulated, this dread is not in any way being attended to with a birth 700 years later. Therefore, being that the context is being butchered by the consideration for the Davidic line, for by using the future virgin birth to alleviate the concern with the Davidic line, the immediate fear and need for protection from his enemies is not being attended to at all, there is every reason not to insert it. (Based on the general context and response from God, Isaiah 7:1-14)
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Rabbinic Judaism's dying and resurrecting Messiah (which this Rabbi avoided): answeringislamblog.wordpress.com/2018/08/29/how-rabbinic-judaisms-belief-in-two-messiahs-proves-jesus-is-the-christ/
Sam your not catholic if you don't believe in the 250 + Catholic Dogmas.
If your not 100% sure about Papal infallibility & the " Folilioque" ect....or you say you could change your mind about the Catholic faith..then YOU CAN'T partake of the Eucharist. 9:14
Why answering Islam not Judaism?
JESUS DIED ON THE CROSS ✝️ END OF HIS STORY. JESUS 2ND COMING FROM HEAVEN HAS BEEN FANTASY OF DELUSIONAL CHRISTIAN ✝️ 😂
Wasn't there a Famous Rabii who Lived to be 100yrs old and ppl thought he was a Messiah and he left a letter when he died saying Jesus is god and will return - anybody know his name?
@@FreedomOfSpeech1.0 rebbe aka Menachem Mendel Schneerson?
I came to Yeshua as a Jew all I did was read Johns Gospel and compare and contrast. Its all there. We must unite as Jews and Christians asap.
Real
We must unite as Christians. Nothing else...
I've tried! I tried to use more damming proof, which is the 3300yo torah codes found by Rabbi Glazerson, to show the orthodox jews in Flagstaff, Az , and after I moved, I tried using Facebook. I received one response from the rabbi, but he would never say another word because he gets all his money, all the money that built that multi-million dollar synagogue from the most corrupt group of NY Jews that will never debate anything with anyone. They get real drunk every Sabbath, and eat very lavish meals. They catered food in there which had to be very expensive. I sat right next to them, detailing the discoveries in the Torah codes and it was in one ear, out the other. Even without the torah codes, there are facts that point to Yeshua being the savior. The first letters of the names of all the rabbis. Do you know about this one? The truth in their faces and they still do not care. It's a cult for them. Self worship, which is no different than Satan worship.
Amen 🙏 bring forth my sons and daughters from afar, even everyone who is called by MY name.
Let ALL the Nations be gathered, let the people be assembled.
We welcome all our brothers and sister from around the world called for salvation.
Where is the real Jesus?, he can come and live in your heart
The rabbi immediately made a personal attack and then played the victim. You cannot make this shit up.
Imagine that
Classic
It's illegal to say that he was not the victim, for over 6k rabbis were actually attacked and affected by this
Every single time.
It's all they ever do
If Jesus is a false Messiah then every Jewish prophet has utterly failed to predict his coming. You'd think they'd put a little warning in the Torah about him....
Jesus is the Messiah and the Jews knows this. Its just they dont want to follow him, because that means that Jews will NO LONGER HAVE ANY POWER IN THE MATERIAL WORLD. So they REJECTED the Messiah, not that they did not know about Him - THEY REJECTED HIM. Thats the biggest problem here.
They knew EXACTLY Who is Christ, who came in the body of Emanuel.
The God of this world is blinding carnel minds and takes hold roots and impregnates lost souls
The great deception
The Jews will first welcome the false Messiah the beast of Revelation... Then acknowledge the real Jesus who is coming through the clouds of Israel
@@goshu7009interesting, any videos or sources to expand on this topic?
@@Truthstter No no, thats just from what happened. Its not something ,,not known". its just different perspective. They ordered His death.... you have to understand that during this time - this was the Darkest Hour of Human History - thats when Christ came. All people were literally slaved to the Demons. They (the bosses of Fariseyan and Sadokeyans) knew EXACTLY who is in front of them. The Fariseyans and Sadokeyans hated Christ the most - today - they control the Financial, Economical sphere of life. Their Friends - from Vatican control the Spiritual Sphere and so on. Canaan from the Bible are today - Greeks, Phoenicians, Late Rome, Later Eastern Rome, Late Ottoman Empire, Later British Empire, and today late USA..... When they come on power - they Twist the original Idea and remove GOD atheistic ideologies (or twist it with Babylonian cults) Statue of Liberty - the perfect example.
@@Truthstter It's speculation. But we know that the Jewish Messiah was supposed to come 2000 years ago according to the prophets. All rabbis know this as well. It's out of stubbornness they refuse to acknowledge Jesus and out of stubbornness they keep waiting for a messiah they know won't come.
Jesus is God!
Jesus was a drug addict.
Definitely not
@@Dextermoon1why
@@Dextermoon1 Definitely YES. WHO CAN SAVES IF NOT ONLY GOD, JESUS, GOD IN THE FLESH. WHO CAN FORGIVE SIN IF NOT ONLY GOD, JESUS DID
God is not human you idol lover.
Jesus is king
The King of Kings, Amen. 👑✝
of what kingdom? What did he rule?
@@leutrim7104 THE ONLY KINGDOM THAT YOU CAN'T SEE BECAUSE YOU ARE BLIND.
@@goodhealth2378 Whats the name of that kingdom?😆
God is king of the Universe, Jesus just a human like you and me
No matter how much evidence you show them, they will not be convinced. The evil ones have blinded them and made them deaf to the Truth. “They have eyes yet will not see. They have ears but will not hear.”
Because they know the truth of their own genealogy
Malachi 1 -4
J 8 44
R 3 9
2 Corinthians 4:4
@Stormer-Europa can you explain that in a bit more detail interested as I am new
Read Rom 9-11 and Zechariah 12.
“do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you.”
That's because growing up they were told that christian's are wrong and christian's have been bad to jews for thousands of years. They are then told that God promised THE JEWS to be the chosen people and that christian's are just trying to extend that to the entire world. It's hard to break down that wall they have.
"Paul is the most quoted Rabbi in history"
Is Wesley So dating Carissa Yip?
No, Jesus is.
@@cct7558 IF you want to limit Jesus to being called a Rabbi instead of God the Son.
@@pinoygal6232 Is it a limit to call Him Rabbi? It can be both right? He is God and He was a Rabbi.
@@Justaman7135Jesus is a priestly king, so by definition, he is also a rabbi lol. Idk what bro is getting so defensive about.
Sam is extremely knowledgeable and I truly enjoy his debates. Just one thing he needs to adjust is a bit of patience. As an audience we also learn from the arguments of the guests and how to refute them. We can’t learn if the guest isn’t given time to expound on his arguments.
2 Tim 2:24-26 And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth, and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will.
You can learn from your own study. His aggressive debate style is better suited for these end times than a patient style. A lot of the people he debates are particularly stubborn, and there really isn’t a lot of time left for them to be convinced that Jesus is the Lord and only path to salvation. Sam’s a real warrior, here to show the doubters the strength of Christ.
@@MrMarbles0Xecution no need to be rude in your response. We all learn from each other as a body of Christ. Patience is a fruit of the Holy Spirit, I’m not sure why anyone would resist a recommendation for it.
@@andrewndambuki6097 having a different opinion is not the same as being rude.
Interceed to God for him.
What I've seen is that the second in which they tell a lie or show any sign of arrogance he becomes very angry. Because he knows they are wasting his time, and they're all just parroting demons. If someone is actually humble and asks or is open minded he is patient and even loving. He has personal problems too and feels like he's useless when they make him waste his time (probs)
That's the only reason I haven't critized him.
I do critize the insults as that is incorrect regardless of their offense
Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect, keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander. 1 Peter 3.
This exchange right here is why modern Jews answer a question with a question. It's because they have no answers. The reason they have no answers is because they deny Jesus. Jesus is always the answer
Isnt the talmud like 200 years after Jesus came?
200-700 years after.
It was a work in progress over those years. They had to spend half a millennia to come up with some type of explanation for what just happened lol
@@Concerned10thGenCanadian The whole Talmud is an explain it away
It's the Hebrew occult book.
one of the most supremacist books that has ever existed
@@Kam-King213 ??
I think the trouble with rabbi’s is they read the Talmud, and they promote the Talmud. Just read the scripture.
The Talmud was passed down from the time of the Torah. Torah says to listen to the sages. Started as an oral tradition but was recorded in exile
Whoaaa I'm Christian. Give the Rabbi time to speak. Take a breath you'll get further
@@jillhurst7390 Amen I agree we are not GOING TO WIN HEARTS BY ARGUING AND CALLING THEM NAMES MAKES US NI DIFFERENT THEN THE WORLD. Jesus never argued with ANYONE HE SPOKE TRUTH IN LOVE ! This is a pride thing sorry losing my respect for Sam
@janicefeeraro903 yeah, problem is they're debating. Jesus never debated anyone.
@@iccna he is god. His sentences are perfect☦️
@ Amen he did not we speak Truth in Live our words are powerful and our actions Sorry Jesus said you go in a house try talk to them they don’t Believe dust your feet off keep it moving . I watch so I learn how to PREACH IN LOVE TO SOME MUSLIM JEWISH OR WHOEVER I DO LEARN GOOD POINTS Im definitely a Evangelist I love to share Gods word but I hate the heated arguments and name calling makes no sense makes the Christian look so bad . I heard Sam’s excuse you don’t know what they write me Jesus told us they Persecuted him and they will Persecuted ALL WHO FOLLOW HIM ! Pray they see the PRIDE IN THIS
When someone starts off telling lies in an effort to obscure the Truth, you expose them and cut them off. No Truth comes from a deceitful tongue. Great job Sam, in The Mighty Name of Jesus!!!
Amen
✝️ Yeshua HaMashiach ❤
May Ya shoo bless you.
GLORY BE TO THE FATHER, TO THE SON, AND TO THE HOLY SPIRIT, ONE GOD ALMIGHTY. HALLELUJAH. AMEN.
Not really a fan of how Sam speaks in debates, but I respect his commitment to correct them on their ignorance.
You should have let the rabbi explain his position and then tell him why he's wrong. This was exhausting to watch
He did but immediately after correcting him the Rabbi didn't let him speak, I can see how Sam gets frustrated with people who refuse to listen
@@chueb He did not allow the Rabbi to speak. He constantly interrupted him throughout the whole interaction in this video.
That's why I don't watch too much of Sam anymore. He rarely allows someone to speak.
The Shroud Of Turin says HI!!!
If my own prayers hadn't proved His glory to me, that would have!
Sam Is such a warrior!!
Sam Sharmuta the fake Armenian. He adds "ian" to his last name for clout. He's NOT one of us, we don't claim him. He's perpetrating a deception. Armenia 301 AD FIRST CHRISTIAN NATION 🇦🇲✝️🇦🇲 Armenia 2024 95% Christian 95% Armenian. No False Entry ⛔ We don't take Converts and No Hirelings.
A warrior does not operate like a fool and spoiled brat like this dude. A warrior is calm and collected in his purpose and does not have verbal diarrhea like this dude. A warrior embodies certain characteristics such as bravery, strength, and honor. This dude have nothing of this.
@@fransdav5573 Shut up, and stop your hating.
@@TrevinOwens-r5k
Wow, this is the most intelligent argument that i have heard, ever.
C'mon Sam. At least try to have a conversation. This was tough to watch. The rabbi was very patient and polite.
come on female d-0-g. at least try to constrain your barking.
@@shamounian bruh 😵
No he wasn’t. He was trying to be play games. He got called out.
@@Fein528How was he trying to play games when he wasn't allowed to speak?
Christians, you have to have respect and humility. Not a lack of confidence, but humility.
When you debate as many arrogant narcissists as Sam does, let's see you do it different then. Also, what difference would it make? No matter how nice you are, you will not affect someone who doesn't want to listen, period. Tell it like it is
Elijah Mont, the worshipers of Baal. Jesus was a savage when it came to the Pharisees, false religions, etc.
Jesus Christ is God Almighty 😁💯🙏💯🙏💯🙏💯🙏💯💯
Sam needs to learn patience and to let people speak. It is more effective than just bulldozing people.
After hundreds you kind of get tired
@stan3070 Yeah, but why not let them speak and let them ruin their credibility on their own? You know?
@@bradalanmusic808Indeed
They are running around and trying to play him. He knows their grift and they know he knows so they BS a lot.
@@bradalanmusic808 agreed
109 countries for a reason
Right, because satan is the ruler of the world. Simple.
1030 locations since 250AD for no reason
Rom 11:18 “do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you.”
Theyre all Muslim or Christian countries though. Christians killed anyone who was not Christian accept for Jews who they sometimes kicked out. Muslims did similar. Killing anyone not of Abrahamic faith but kicking out Jews and Christians sometimes.
I'm sure the latest push of Christians from most middle eastern countries is due to the terrible behaviour of the Christians.
Make it make sense
@@cba4389revelation 3:9
I find Sam to be really rude. He’s condescending and talks over people. Wish he would have a bit more grace. Let the guys answer and talk.
I think he is used to the tactics they use to avoid the truth. Their usual tricks fail and they start muddying the waters. He is being intolerant because their teaching / understanding is leading people astray. Time is short, and there isn’t time for these games.
@@paulakapablo1749 What's the point of debating if you don't allow the other person to talk? He's extremely rude which makes these difficult to watch.
Dear Lord! I have asked God to have Sam debate this man so hard! This is incredible!
Jesus Christ is the messiah the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob the God of Israel.
Why are they like that? The answer is in front of their face, its like Jesus is right there and they're saying he's not our Lord and Savior.
Christians have been pretty evil to Jews throughout history since 300AD when Rome took over. Some Christians burned some Jews alive. Their hearts are open to Jesus, but their eyes are blind.
Jews are the exact opposite of Muslims whose eyes are open but hearts are blind.
Muslim apologists, Norwegian chess fans and Western secular liberals are the modern day Pharisees Sadducees described in John 1:29, 4:22, 8:44, 8:58, 10:26, 10:30, 1 John 2:22, 4:3, 2 John 1:7, Revelation 2:9, 3:9, 22:18-19, etc.
2 Corinthians 4:4 whose unbelieving minds the god of this world hath blinded, lest the light of the glorious Gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Pray for them; it's in God's hands.
@@aquavitae3824 pray for Christians too. Whenever a Christian does something evil especially to Jews or Israel the more the hearts of Jews will be hardened. Look now what so called Christians like Pope Francis Joe Biden Kamala Harris Candace Owens have said about Jews & Israel in the past year
Bro Rabbis are unhinged. The more I see them talk.... insane.
You can't generalize, there are great Rabbis and Stupid Rabbis, it's a whole world. Anyway this one didn't get a fair chance to talk, he was disrespected and interrupted sistematicaly
Christians are unhinged. Where do you think they get it from?
I watched a lot Sam videos BUT GOD KEPT NUDGING ME , it’s not the way WE WIN HEARTS CALLING MUSLIMS NAMES OR JEWS OR ANYONE NAMES BECAUSE THEY DONT AGREE WITH YOU ! IWE ARE TO PLANT AND WATER GOD MAKES THEM GROW ! We win hearts not arguments IN LOVE , NOT BY PUTTING PEOPLE DOWN CALL THEM STUPOD PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO SEE ANYTHING DIFFERENT IN YOU THEN THE WORLD REALLY SO SAM I PRAY YOU READ THIS AND GOD MOVES YOUR HEART I REALLY SEE SO MUCH PRIDE IN YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS ,YOUR IN MY PRAYERS
Thank you. Agree. Maybe we should all ask the question, what would Jesus do?
Sam is proud full. If not, he comes across as that. He is also a pope lover.
@@leslieseptember6050 For real he loves the pope? Damn I didnt know that, thats got me gone right there, the vatican is a seat of satan.
@@leslieseptember6050 amen Pope Francis I’m sorry is WAY OFF PROBABLY CAUSE HE IS HIMSELF WHAT HE SAYS IS OK GAY MARRIAGE ARE YOU KIDDING ME WHERE IS THAT IN THE BIBLE NO WHERE TRUST ME I JUST ASKED A CATHOLIC how SHE WILL get to heaven SHE say well you go to purgatory first then your good deeds get you out 59 years every week in church she did not know ABOUT GRACE ! I WAS NOT SHOCKED I USUALLY ASK A CATHOLIC AND THEY ALWAYS SAY GOOD WORKS AND I SAY IF IT IS GOOD WORKS CHRIST DIED FOR NOTHING THEN ! I WENT to Catholic school and church we learned cadicism ONLY THE PRIEST COULD READ THE BIBLE WHEN I WAS A KID 50 yrs ago ! I pray for the CATHOLIC ATTENDEES GOD OPENS THEIR EYES TO HIS TRUTH ! Pray they stop putting the THE POPE on a PEDESTAL AND PRAY TO HIM WHAT HE SAYS TI THEM IS GOSPEL IN SPITE OF WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS , also PRAYING To SAINTS not for the saints AND THE LIST GOES ON BLESS THEM JESUS OPEN THEIR EYES 🙏🏽
@@Lcdup-z9n Amen he would SPEAK TRUTH IN LOVE NOT TRY TO ARGUE OR CONVINCE ANYONE REALLY A PRIDE THING TO ME ! I agree WWJD
"I accept your challenge except I dont..." ABSOLUTELY EMBARRASSING!
There is NO king but Jesus!!!!!
People have to learn to speak, let the other finish and then refute rather than constant interruptions, I miss the greatest&silent generation in that regard, it all went out of the window after the boomers took hold.
Both of these guys are disrespectful. Nothing good can come from this type of dialogue.
"Glory to Jesus the GOD of the Rabbis" (@2:40) THAT needs to be on t-shirts and bumper stickers! Sam is cookin' today, boy, oh boy!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Mexican Joe Pesci manifested big time 😂
I have watched a few of these videos now. Seriously. Mocking people with click bait title headings. Coming across as arrogant, especially when you say "you know more than them!" Then cutting them up when they speak. This is not treating people with patience and respect. You might be knowledgeable, but having the patience of the Holy Spirit is not there!
When it comes to people from the Middle East area, this is how they engage in conversation. You should look it up before you say it’s Clickbait.
@@DukX2Goose It is not only people from the Middle East who use click bait headings to mock others pal! Social Media is full of them!
Listen while I’m a Christian and I support the intensity of study that it took for Sam to get to this level of competency, the arrogance of this man and the treatment of anyone who is debating him with this constant condescending comments is just really disappointing
really refreshing
It makes me cringe it's so passive aggressive and it's him that tends to escalate the discussion, to me it's like a cop out now. I really like Sam, I wish someone close would tell him.
Actually watch the videos where the debater is respectful, He only gives the same energy the debater is giving them.
play stupid games win stupid prizes. sam knows how these rabbis operate far better than you.
@@sinsfast5435 I have to disagree, Sam obviously has serious mental health issues, apparently he even said it the other day.
He's a Christian, he should be better.
Sam let people talk. Jesus asked people questions and listened
Sam you should allow him to speak
It's against Christianity to say someone is going to hell that is judgemental and that is the job of Jesus
Sam does cut to chase ! Love it ! He can smell the bs on arrival very quick and have no time to waste . I admire him for that . Just discovered him recently. I’m traditional Catholic surrounded mostly by the “ look warm “. No need to say it what Jesus think of those .
Pax to all . Christ is King !
Regards from Poland
If Christians really knew what the Ultra Orthodox Jews believe in, no Christian would want to conform to these Orthodox Jews!
It is therefore the advice to Christians to pray for these Jews that their ears, eyes and hearts may be opened by the Holy Spirit and that they may discover the Truth about the True Messiah and salvation through 'The Word!'
YESHUA ❤
MY LORD AND SAVIOR ❤
THANKFUL, GRATEFUL AND BLESSED ❤
AMEN ❤
I have some understanding of the Jewish religion. I am very aware of all the obvious downfalls of rabbinic teachings. It is very intimidating, and I am glad that you are strong in God in facing it, so that we too can be strong in God against it.
This guy sounds like a Puerto Rican is he a convert to Judahisom?😂
Those were my exact thoughts haha
I guess he is spaniard son of Anussim, the anussim are jews from the tribe of Yehudah.
"stop barking girl" 😭😂😂😂
They are not blind. They know exactly what they are doing.
This "rabbi" is just emoting, he's unreasonable, sloppy..
😂😂😂😂
Sam, you got to learn this. James 1:19-20. You got the truth on this one.Just let him speak and then give him the truth.
This reminds me of when the Pharisees were arguing with the Sadducees.
We all come from the same God, who is the God of Abraham, but we all hate each other because we all want to interpret the writings for ourselves.
The WORD of the LORD says:
Worship and obey ME by dropping your prideful interpretive skills and loving your brother.
I tell you; love your enemies, but by this, I mean; Do not have any enemies. I want you to be pure of heart; both toward ME and toward MY creation. My creation includes your brothers and sisters.
I do not care about what you believe about my nature or about the nature of the Messiah that was written about.
My WORD was written down so that you would all come to a knowledge of ME. Not so that you can all fight over your interpretation of ME and My redemptive Messiah.
You will all see Him coming with the clouds at MY appointed time.
STOP creating sects for yourselves and teach your brothers and sisters about MY commands.
No matter what position a person has in an argument (discussion with evidence) both sides have to put their preconceived notions, beliefs, and "want it to be" in a box in order to hear what the other side is saying. Then take what was heard and fact check it through research.
Sam Shamoun needs to tone the aggression, makes us Christians look bad.
It's awesome tho lmao he roasts everyone so hard 😂😂
Stop being so effeminate.
Is the prestige of other people more important to you than sharing the gospel and the truth??
When a rabbi spreads nonsensical things and lies, it is sometimes necessary to correct this with harsher words, otherwise it will not reach the recipient.
Finally, gentle healers make stinking wounds!
People may disagree with Sam's action, but Sam is one of the few who preaches the Gospel to millions of people, so let's be careful in our judgment of our brother Sam.
When Jesus (in relation of David ) revealed himself and said to Paul (whose name is shaul, like the king) why do you persecute me? It was as if David asked saul at his time why he did it, it's a parallel story and both shaul's are from the tribe of Benjamin. Sam 9:1, Rom 11:1
Continuation of Argument against virgin birth in Isaiah 7:
4. The verses also indicate that there is an immediate relevance with the sign and the impending threat, as it says, “For, when the lad does not yet know to reject bad and choose good, the land whose two kings you dread, shall be abandoned.”(Isaiah 7:16) This implies that that God will take care of Ahaz's enemies just before the child is able to distinguish between good and bad. (Sign = dealing with threat) Now, if the matter is contingent upon Jesus’ birth, 700 years later, before he distinguishes between good and bad, this would render his enemies perishing utterly impertinent. For the verse would then be saying, “Don’t worry your enemies will only be destroyed in another 700 years! By that time, everyone will be long gone, himself included. Therefore, the sign cannot be associated to Ahaz in a manner that deals with the future, being that the sign is bound to the enemies he now faces, and the requirement of dealing with his enemies is incongruent to 700 years later. (Based on Isaiah 7:14-17) To summarize, the “sign” clearly deals with his enemies, and the enemies cannot be dealt with when everyone is already long gone, 700 years in the future! Hence, again, by introducing the consideration of the Davidic line’s survival with a virgin birth 700 years in the future, shatters the unambiguous connection between the sign and the enemies being dealt with, whereby the context is rendered unintelligible, therefore, we have every reason not to insert this assertion.
5. Furthermore, another very important example of how the sign must entirely be relevant to Ahaz. In verse 7 it is stated, “So said the Lord God, 'Neither shall it succeed, nor shall it come to pass.” This is referring to the plans of Rezin, king of Aram, and Pekah son of Remaliah, king of Israel, with their ally Efraim. They won’t succeed in harming him. A concern for the “Davidic line supported by a virgin birth 700 years in the future” is impertinent to his being harmed, being that they are not mutually exclusive; because he may be harmed, yet, the Davidic line would still survive. Again, the Davidic line and future virgin birth, completely disregard the context, leaving them utterly implausible.
Therefore, you are coerced to say, that when God sends him a sign, the sign will support the very thing God spoke about.
This is the only concern God himself mentioned. Consequently, the sign can only be that which addresses this matter, and this matter only.
Remember, the sign must corroborate him not getting harmed. The fact that he has a descendant born of a virgin 700 years later, in no way assures his immediate safety. He may perish, yet, might have many descendants. The two have no pertinence. (Based on Isaiah 7:7 and 7:14)
6. Furthermore, and very importantly, as someone proficient in ancient Hebrew, this interpretation can never see the light of day, as the word used here for “virgin”, does not mean virgin. The etymology of the word almah/עלמה, doesn’t in any way indicate virginity. The root word is “עלם”, a primitive root signifying strength and endurance, hence, youth. As in, ״…and they will also believe in you forever/לעולם/leolam”, (Exodus 19:9), from the root עלם. We can appreciate how the root word conveys nothing about virginity, but rather strength and endurance, vigor, henceforth, a youth. (This is unlike the root for betulah/בתולה, from the root בתל, a primitive root signifying “separate and or secluded”, an etymological cognate of the root badal/בדל, which conveys a similar meaning, namely, “separate and divide”. Each expressing, however, a different type of separation. One exclusively used to express chastity.)
We can appreciate how the root word conveys nothing about virginity, but rather strength and endurance, vigor, henceforth, a youth. There is a vast amount of evidence that can be provided regarding this last point, however, this would be another discussion entirely.
7. Moreover, and this is a very important point, the word “THE ALMA העלמה”, translated as “virgin” by the church, is written with what’s referred to in hebrew as “ה הידיעה”, literally, “the knowledgeable hei”, or, in english, a definite article, which unquestionably implies something previously mentioned or known, thus, a “known virgin or previously mentioned virgin”, and not some unspecified virgin of the future, which would have been expressed simply as “ALMA עלמה. Now, being that the wicked Ahaz certainly had no conception and knowledge about this alleged future virgin, and no mention was made of her previously, the use of the definite article is most definitely unjustified. (According to the traditional translation, however, which translates, “the young woman”, no difficulty is encountered, and the definite article is even necessary! Obviously, by using the definite article, It implies a young woman known to Ahaz at the time, not some unknown woman that has to be randomly sought; albeit, that the text doesn’t specify who she is exactly, it’s safe to assume, being that she’s obviously known to him, and that the text relates his knowledge of her to us, that the most “known woman” without elucidating, would be either Ahaz’s own wife, or, Isaiah’s wife, or, possibly, another young woman with that very aspect and degree of “knowledge”. Undeniably, it’s someone Ahaz is very cognizant of and could expect to find pregnant at any time, even if at this point it wasn’t crystal clear, once the child will be born and named among the very narrow window of women, it would retroactively be recognized; and this knowledge would even be acquired once one of these known women reach advanced pregnancy, for he would then expect to experience the sign through her. Either way, the sign would be quite pertinent, anticipated, and experienced.)
Rabbi: we have no temple, no arc of covenant, king, main priest.
Rabbi: it looks fine
JESUS IS LORD 💪✝️
Glory to Jesus Christ, the God and Judge of the rabbis, and the whole world.
Sam your very good, but don’t you think letting them talk might be more productive?
No. Why? They say nothing and shuffle when they do. They never keep on point.
@@polarfamily6222
Because Sam can't debate, he has NO patience, NO!
@@polarfamily6222 how can they keep on point if there constantly interrupted with how bad he’s gonna crush they’re false god. He interrupts and insults.
He seems to be more informed on the subject but he has zero patience. He gets mad that people don’t talk like him.
@@Sven-Wagnerhe’s the best
@@Sven-WagnerSam destroys anyone he debates
You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar
There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.
I imagine him dancing around a golden clad while Moses looks down at him in anger for denying his God 🫡✝️
This is the best channel glory to Jesus Christ
You both are very passionate debating . Jesus is King
Second modified approach:
Another possible manner in which Christians try to resolve the glaring difficulties inherent by inserting Jesus into the equation, is through the claim of a “dual prophecy”.
A prophecy that has two applications, two fulfillments.
1. Why should we assume that there are two fulfillments of this prophecy ? There appears to be absolutely no reason to assume such an interpretation, other than, a will to insert Christian theology.
2. If dual prophecy were to have application, one could arbitrarily insert whatever he desires, wherever he wants. Can we honestly consider this mode of interpretation ?
3. As we said in note 1, there is no reason to apply dual prophecy. In fact, being that the context clearly refers to an event occurring in the now, this would preclude any suggestion of “another prophecy”. (First point is, on what basis assume a dual prophecy ? Current point is that the context inhibits such an assertion)
By applying the context, dual prophecy becomes patently superfluous. There is no reason to believe in dual prophecy because there is no room in the text to insert it, the context would contend such an assertion and leave no room for it. How so?
If the intent is, as well, to a future prophecy, 700 years later, this is incongruent, for Ahaz requires only a sign relavent to him. It’s utterly superfluous to allude to some virgin birth 700 years in the future. The context isn’t leaving any room. (Based on general context)
4. Ahaz is currently surrounded by enemies he doesn’t need an allusion to some virgin birth 700 years in the future. Still no room for Jesus. (Based on Isaiah 7:2)I
5. God wants to mend Ahaz’s fear about impeding war, it’s utterly superfluous to mention a virgin birth 700 years in the future. (Based on Isaiah 7:4)
6. The sign is relevant to before when this child will distinguish between good and bad, at that time Ahaz’s enemies will fall, there is no reason to allude to a virgin birth 700 hundred years in the future. (Based on Isaiah 7:15-16)
2 Timothy 2:24
And the Lord's servant[e] must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, 25 correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth
I once commented on that same rabbi in one of his spanish videos. He is very misinformed and hasn’t read the New Testament. He would blaspheme the Name of Jesus a lot. We have to pray for him
What's his name? He looks exactly like Carl Delgadillo (Baca) a Nicaraguan Christian that convert to Judaism in the early 2000 in Toronto. Is it the same person?
@@Macabron his name is Puntobreslev
Wasn't there a Famous Rabii who Lived to be 100yrs old and ppl thought he was a Messiah and he left a letter when he died saying Jesus is god and will return - anybody know his name?
It's all confusing we need proper understanding
1 Corinthians 1:10
King James Bible
Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment
Love how Sam just sets them straight while turning them into pretzels with the truth
The way he said his rabbis are burning in hell yooo that was crazy
The Rabbi's confronted with his own theology, and he panicked by getting very angry, so that shows us that the one who remained calm has the truth.
Many people will come from the east and from the west and will sit and eat with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. But those people who should be in the kingdom will be thrown outside into the darkness, where people will cry and grind their teeth with pain.” Then Jesus said to the officer, “Go home.
"i'm gonna bbq you slowly" 😂
sam, i'm ordering mine very well done okay..
Imagine if Jesus acted like Sam Shamoun
Matthew 16:20 says, "Then he ordered his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Messiah".
Yeah, because he wasn’t. The real Messiah would never say something so stupid as that.
@@ryanferguson9249 It's actually leading that Jesus was not the blood thirsty Yaweh's son. The Bible has been manipulated. And whoever put it together corrupted Jesus's character.
@@steveg3885 It hasn't been manipulated. It was compiled tons of manuscripts of contradicting manuscripts that were all mish-mashed together into one contradictory body.
WOW! Sam at his BEST! Go get em Sam!
Jesus Christ is our perfect Man, King, Servant, and God.
All glory to him, hallowed be his name.
Our old syrian orthodox priest used to tell us God the father asked adam and all his offspring have sinned who will go to remove their sinns and save them?
The son answered: I do.
Sam is the best! The Lord is pleased with you!
(@3:34) SAM IS A PHENOM!!! Get ‘em Sir! Don’t never let them up from their propaganda. Get them Sam!
I pray that God sends many Blessings upon Bishop Mari Mari and Sam Shamoun. I pray for their PROTECTION Dear Lord. I pray that you bestow upon them many Blessings.
I pray this in the name Yeshua, Our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Amen.
Sam comes across as a proud person because of he's biblical knowledge. Perhaps it's his style of interaction. Then also he's a pope lover.
Will be good if they can both extend the courtesy of actually listening to one another. Expecting it whilst refusing to do it, is rather confusing to me.
Dude let the men speak ffs 🤦♂️
But the man is tap dancing
He should not speak things he doesn't know also this isnt a debate he is on same channel trying to correct him😂
He is just circling around the question and the answers are in the screen and they keep denying it just like the muslims. Lol cp when he exposed an imam saying it does not say in their book when he showed it to the imam , the imam got angry and want to change the topic.
Yea but they going to say Jesus is not God always.
it's an Assyrian and a Jew...it's going to be testy.
He doesn't let the rabbi talk and insulting him all the way... very poor level of debate...
If you believe that the Jews that are in Israel are the chosen people you have not read the word of God. Satan is the father of Lies God talks about being blind you have to read the word of God you got to ask God to reveal himself his will and his truth to you. Peace and love God bless
THIS!!!This is what ive been speaking to the Christian that support modern state israel
Thus says The Lord: Even to this day, O Israel, you have not ceased from walking in the ways of your forefathers, stoning My prophets in word and by deed, seeking always to kill or imprison those sent to you. Have I not gathered you with a mighty hand from among the nations, restoring you to your own land, even granting you great increase? Yet you do not embrace Me, for you yet push out the hand against My Holy One; you refuse to drink from His cup.
How long shall you seek to murder your King?!
How long will you deny The Way I have set before you?!
How long shall you blaspheme The Truth,
Which I sent into the world to testify?!...
YOU HAVE FORSAKEN LIFE!
You refuse the blood I poured out for you!...
O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, how long will you
Let His blood drip from your fingers?!
WASH YOURSELVES! MAKE YOURSELVES CLEAN! For I tell you the truth, the stain of your guilt remains, as you pass it from one generation to the next! Thus YOU fulfill the curse by which your forefathers had cursed themselves! YOU freed the murderer and condemned The Innocent! YOU murdered The Author of Life and hung your Salvation upon a tree, piercing His hands and His feet!
excerpt from:
www.thevolumesoftruth.com/A_Heavy_Stone,_a_Bitter_Burden
Love you Sam, he constantly attacks to christians denying the lord Jesus, blessed are you to stand to twose Ho dont know the scriptures and you being light to the
Sam looks so much like my father
Continuation of second modified argument against a virgin birth in Isaiah 7:
7. Furthermore, and very importantly, as someone proficient in ancient Hebrew, this interpretation can never see the light of day, as the word used here for “virgin”, does not mean virgin. The etymology of the word almah/עלמה, is rooted in the word עלם/alam, a primitive root signifying “strength and endurance” (similar to the Aramaic עלים), hence, youth.
As in, ״…and they will also believe in you forever/לעולם/leolam”(exodus 19:9), from the root עלם/alam, for endurance, strength, is rooted in עלם/alam.
We can appreciate how the root word conveys nothing about virginity, rather it’s an expression of vigor, and, henceforth, a youth.
There is a vast amount of evidence that can be provided regarding this last point, however, this would be another discussion entirely.
8. Furthermore, and very interestingly, if it’s a dual prophecy, what other virgin birth is being alluded to in Ahaz’s time? Isn’t there only one virgin birth? Only one Jesus ? All the more so, is this difficult, being that the main prophecy is undoubtedly for Ahaz, as clearly established contextually, this would imply that the principal “virgin birth” is relevant to Ahaz’s time. This last objection completely undermines the uniqueness of the Christian claim. It’s quite ironic, the answer they try to promote, actually creates the grounds to contradict Christianity at its core…..
Sam is no expert (by far) on biblical hebrew and will forever ignore or be ignorant about the correct meaning of the construct "et asher dakaru" which translated correctly means "regarding those whom they have pierced". If the verse meant to say "Me whom they have pierced", it would have been in correct biblical hebrew "Elai asher dakaru" rather than "Eli et asher dakaru". The addition of "et" renders the meaning "about whom" or "regarding". So you can see that sam is so confident of his mistranslation, but does not have a clue as to the false claim he is making ...
Let him answer for crying out loud !!!!!
Sadly the first guy, in his channel in spanish, is always bashing christians and Christ. There are other jewish apologists who are more respectful. It surprized me to find him here.
Essenes of the Dead Sea Scrolls described 1 Messiah in two roles . . . Messiah ben Joseph & Messiah ben David.
What verses suggest that?
Correct, it's the rabbi's who changed God's books !
The question I have for Sam is are the Jews still God's chosen people today? Since he says their rabbis are burning in hell, or does he believe only those who accept Jesus are currently and that only the ancient Israelites were chosen? Serious question that I don't know the answer to.
Christians cant tell why jesus is not from Judah then they rely on the rabbis for Mashiach ben Yoseph.
Is there even an allusion to a virgin birth in Isaiah 7?
Regarding Isaiah 7:14, the context is utterly irrelevant to some future prophecy about a virgin birth.
The chapter must be read in its proper context.
The chapter deals with various enemies’ threats against Judah, and the ensuing wars.
Verse 1 relates that Retzin king of Aram, and Pekah son Remalyahu, joined forces and sought to conquer Jerusalem.
Verse 2 tells us that Ahaz and his people were terrified like “the trembling of the trees of the forest from the wind”.
Verse 4 relates that Isaiah was to tell him “to stay calm and not to fear…”
Verses 5-6 speak of their plot.
Verse 7 recounts that their plot “..will not stand and it will not be..”
8-9 speaks of the conspirators being of no relevance to Jerusalem and their downfall.
Verse 11 conveys that Ahaz should, “Ask for yourself a sign from the Lord, your God..”. To ask a sign for this prophecy.
Verse 12 tells us that Ahaz decided not to ask or test God.
Verse 13 has Isaiah insisting that he should ask.
Verse 14 finally relates that a sign will be given anyways, that a child will be born to “THE ALMA העלמה”(with a definite article), and she will call him Immanuel (God is with us).
(Alma literally means a young lady; the church m, of course, translates this as virgin)
Verse 15 states that the child will eat butter and honey, from the moment he knows to distinguish good and bad, yet, before that moment arrives the two kings will have already disappeared.
Now, according to the gospels, the correct understanding is that, “There will be a virgin birth a few hundred years down the line”.
Let’s analyse this proposition:
What about Ahaz’s concerns?
Nah, God would rather tell him about some irrelevant virgin birth that will occur a few hundred years later.
Ahaz shouldn’t be afraid of impending war because in a few hundred years Jesus is coming!
This makes no coherent sense.
Also, to make this unambiguous, it says, “For, when the lad does not yet know to reject bad and choose good, the land whose two kings you dread, shall be abandoned." (7:16)
This implies that that God will destroy Ahaz's enemies just before the child is able to tell good from bad.
This suggests, according to the the gospels, that Ahaz’s enemies will only be gone in a few hundred years, some time before Jesus will distinguish between good and bad, not only will they have disappeared long before this time, he, himself, will have also perished.
This conveys nothing about his current predicament.
This cannot be overlooked.
In other words, the meaning of the verse would imply, “Ahaz don’t be afraid, actually, be very afraid !
This is pure butchery.
(There is still a generous amount of difficulties to raise according to the straightforward understanding of the church, most of these questions, however, will be brought to light in the two modified approches in which apologists attempt to answer these very transparent problems)
First modified approach:
Or, perhaps, in order to make the context more relevant to the Christian interpretation, some could claim that Ahaz was concerned with the “Davidic dynasty”, that it shouldn’t perish, and that he was reassured by the sign of there being a virgin birth 700 years later, insinuating that the “Davidic line” will survive.
1. First off, there is absolutely no allusion in the text of Ahaz being concerned with the preservation of the “Davidic line”.
(No, the fact that Ahaz and his family are referred to as “…the house of David…” when relating the prophecy (Isaiah 7:13), doesn’t signify anything, it was totally appropriate to refer to them as such, as they are, after all, the “house of David” !
Moreover, they where also referred to as “the house of David” even before this prophecy was uttered, “And it was told to the House of David, saying…” (Isaiah 7:2).
You know why? For that same exact reason, because that’s exactly what they are ! There is nothing unusual or incoherent about the use of this terminology.)
Rather, the only matter that could be derived from the verses, according to their simple meaning, is fear of immanent danger, as expressed by the members of Ahaz’s brethren, Ahaz included, who trembled from fear!! Even God tells him to calm down and not “FEAR”!
There is no altruistic concern.
The verses clearly speak of fear to the point of trembling, not some type of consideration for the future.
As it says, “And it was told to the House of David, saying, "Aram has allied itself with Ephraim," and his heart and the heart of his people trembled as the trees of the forest tremble because of the wind.” (Isaiah 7:2)
Also, “And you shall say to him, "Feel secure and calm yourself, do not fear, and let your heart not be faint…”. (Isaiah 7:4)
The verses undoubtedly and clearly convey “fear”, fear of enemy attack.
This cannot be overlooked.
We can conclude that this assertion has no basis in reality.
At this point we could actually stop, however, purely for argument’s sake, let us conjure that this consideration was present, aside for the fear.
Very importantly, we can’t obviate his “fear”, nevertheless, perhaps we could say that he was genuinely concerned with the crown being snatched from David, as well? Can a concern for the Davidic line have any pertinence contextually, as we push further?
2. Now, even if this unfounded concern was true, the subject remains plagued with difficulties.
Whether we say that he is “ALSO concerned with the Davidic line”, and, all the more so, if we say that he’s “ONLY concerned”, as it is actually contextually impossible, but let’s just say, what type of a sign is it if he can’t witness it !?
Every sign, or OT/אות, given by God or the prophets in the Bible is something the individual witnesses, and whereby comes to trust.
(Genesis 9:12; Exodus 4:8-9; Kings 2 20:8-9; Isaiah 66:19).
A sign is suppose to create trust not be contingent upon trust, that defeats the purpose of a sign ! (Or, as in the case of circumcision or the Sabbath, and similar instances, where one is to provide a sign for God or others, it’s something that is done in a discernible way, or just present as a reminder. In any case, the sign is always in existence and experienced.)
There are no examples of intangible “signs” one never experiences.
In our case, Isaiah is providing a sign in God’s name regarding the veracity of his prophecy, it should be no different than any other sign provided by prophets which comes to certify the words of the prophecy, and is consequently something very much demonstrative that corroborates the prophecy.
Two points: Providing anything that deviates from this formula doesn’t make any sense logically (defeats the purpose of the sign), and, moreover, conflicts with every instance of a “sign, OT/אות” recorded in the Bible (inconsistent with the blueprint).
3. Back to the “fear” element. If it can be demonstrated that by inserting a concern for the Davidic line, the contextually true “fear element” will be precluded, evidently, this would prove the implausibility of such an attempt. Remember, according to this approach, a virgin birth 700 years in the future, and a concern for the Davidic line, are contingent upon one another. Ahaz has enemies breathing down his neck, an immediate concern, the fact that the Davidic line survives 700 years later, does not in any way address the immediate need for protection. For it still doesn’t mean he will survive his enemies’ attacks, it just means the line will somehow survive. Granted, that he was also concerned for the Davidic line, as we postulated, this dread is not in any way being attended to with a birth 700 years later. Therefore, being that the context is being butchered by the consideration for the Davidic line, for by using the future virgin birth to alleviate the concern with the Davidic line, the immediate fear and need for protection from his enemies is not being attended to at all, there is every reason not to insert it. (Based on the general context and response from God, Isaiah 7:1-14)