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  • @razernotfound
    @razernotfound 11 днів тому +129

    Aahh yes my favourite chill guy who can build anything with the game limitations and can turn anything into masterpiece 😂❤

    • @imperatur
      @imperatur  11 днів тому +10

      Thanks buddy I appreciate it:)

  • @OVERCHARGEDEGG
    @OVERCHARGEDEGG 11 днів тому +35

    You are seriously shining with CS2 man, you are really using this engine! Simply beautiful!

  • @southpineshooligan
    @southpineshooligan 11 днів тому +58

    This is by far my favourite series. You're doing things i wouldn't even think of in my dreams. Like the arched road under the bridges, SO smart!
    Your way of layering is insane!

    • @imperatur
      @imperatur  11 днів тому +4

      Awww thanks man:) i‘m glad i could inspire you:)

  • @TheOneThatsGreen
    @TheOneThatsGreen 11 днів тому +133

    i dont know if im getting crazy, but did imperatur repeat the same phrases in 7:21 and 8:45? And other than that, great content man, this episode looked slightly like a futuristic utopia will all the high rise, pedestrian access and brigdes. Very nice!

    • @magnushmann
      @magnushmann 11 днів тому +11

      You're not crazy.

    • @JuMate248
      @JuMate248 11 днів тому +9

      Mistakes happen! imo its no deal at all, just smth to try to avoid in the future :)

    • @ConnorEduard
      @ConnorEduard 10 днів тому +5

      I noticed that right away too haha. Just put the same audio in twice, must've forgotten it was already in when he placed the second.

    • @TheOneThatsGreen
      @TheOneThatsGreen 10 днів тому

      Yeah of course, mistakes happen

  • @ConnorEduard
    @ConnorEduard 10 днів тому +11

    For a game with so many shades of grey, you really know how to make everything pop out. Such beautiful and creative builds. Love this series man.

  • @vojtechsukup4488
    @vojtechsukup4488 11 днів тому +39

    1:18 Man you can´t just hit us with the nostalgia. I still remeber the song from your CS1 builds.

  • @goldfishkaden1539
    @goldfishkaden1539 10 днів тому +7

    one of the key differences in my understanding between chicago and san antonio river walk is cars. san antonio winds through and around buildings under some roads but chicago the entire thing is right next to roads and you don’t really have a second to be in the park because it’s just all city. San Antonio’s is much smaller but it’s so much nicer, greener, and it’s truly a river walk.

  • @theorixlux
    @theorixlux 11 днів тому +19

    I love how u play with elevation!

    • @imperatur
      @imperatur  11 днів тому +2

      It makes everything so much cooler:)

  • @tommeakin1732
    @tommeakin1732 11 днів тому +8

    As for stopping cars on pedestrian roads, I'm pretty sure that the pedestrian-only policy (when you make a district) works, but the problem there is that it's a district, and you've got normal roads underneath pedestrian ones in this build. That being said, it might work fine if you make a few little districts on pedestrian hotspots, and, fingers crossed, the AI will understand that no cars should be going from one pedestrian zone to another, even if the bridge linking them technically allows cars. You will still see service vehicles on the ped roads btw.
    Your builds, as always, are utterly mad, in the best of ways. The way you blend things together, alongside your ability to work with different heights is 10/10. Layering is such a great trick for making wonderful urban spaces, but you pretty much have to be able to build in another dimension 😅 I guess I have a smooth, 2D brain. Huh.

  • @pronun0744
    @pronun0744 11 днів тому +4

    Hello, I'm from Spain and I'm amazed by your content and your way of making cities, the creativity and ability you have to conceive spaces and lay out roads, pedestrian spaces and in general design the cities you make, greetings from Valencia

    • @imperatur
      @imperatur  10 днів тому +2

      Greetings back to spain:)

  • @morris8165
    @morris8165 10 днів тому

    This might be my favorite video of yours ever! I have followed you for about five years now and you just keep getting better. The amount of elevation in this part of the city is absolutely crazy and i love the sunken part below the main entrance to the station. Keep it up man!

  • @randomigit5453
    @randomigit5453 11 днів тому +4

    Great build! Would be cool if a branch came off the metro tracks on the box bridge and curved left to eventually join up with the metro tracks that pass over the central downtown station!

    • @imperatur
      @imperatur  10 днів тому

      That sounds very cool:D

  • @ChrisLipinski113
    @ChrisLipinski113 11 днів тому +6

    As others have said, the way you use verticality is so satisfying. Would love to see you do some Chongqing inspired stuff.

    • @imperatur
      @imperatur  10 днів тому +1

      Chongquing is Crazy
      20 stories elevation difference at some spots

    • @ChrisLipinski113
      @ChrisLipinski113 9 днів тому

      @@imperatur Yeah, it's crazy. You're a CS wizard - you can make it happen :).

  • @Ilikefire2793
    @Ilikefire2793 9 днів тому +1

    @imperatur 7:36 the reason for this is that those vehicles that are driving on pedestrian roads are actually goods/service deliveries. They're kinda a literal requirement unless alternate vehicle roads (like ones say alley roads with small parking lots placed on the back of the buildings opposite of the pedestrian only roads) are provided for services. (Ambulance, firetruck, police, maintenance, small cargo delivery, movers etc...)

  • @thatspainball1629
    @thatspainball1629 11 днів тому +1

    This is one of my favourite cs2 Series. You ‘re such a good city builder

  • @Newtrend89
    @Newtrend89 11 днів тому +8

    YOURS BUILD IDEA IS NEXT LEVEL......

  • @wutguycreations
    @wutguycreations 11 днів тому +3

    Oh wow I'm early, great build as always! Love your stuff, it's always a treat to watch you build!

  • @melissaharris3389
    @melissaharris3389 11 днів тому

    Excellent episode. With the elevated pedestrian paths and use of the modern architecture buildings, it's very 60s, "streets in the sky."

  • @Devinnnn-j4v
    @Devinnnn-j4v 10 днів тому

    I just love watching your videos! Your builds are super cool and unique, especially the stadium, the dam, and I get so many techniques and ideas from you!

  •  10 днів тому

    I love how you seamlessly turn multiple buildings into one big one

  • @danmontour8584
    @danmontour8584 10 днів тому

    just incredible what you can do with all theses mods, would have been something if the game came out with all theses working without crashing, crazy job you do

  • @coolL9457
    @coolL9457 11 днів тому +1

    I absolutely love this series! You never fail to show the magnitude of difference between a pro and a novice using the same 'tools'. We all play the same game, yet you manage to make such amazing builds!

  • @AtdarseThe13th
    @AtdarseThe13th 10 днів тому

    I love this build! It reminds me of Utrecht Central Station in the Netherlands for some reason...
    I also don't know if you take suggestions from the comment section but i would love to see a little old town in the downtown, it doesn't have to be large because it might have been burned down or something like that but a small old town with mixed-use shops would definitely make me very happy, because mixed-use historical city downtowns have always been my favourite places to just walk around in irl!

  • @Jar-n6p
    @Jar-n6p 5 днів тому

    Tbh i dont really care if you follow the 1 tile rule or not as long as I get to see you build this beautiful masterpiece and its end product

  • @BUILDYBRO
    @BUILDYBRO 11 днів тому

    Very nice, I started shooting Cities: Skylines 2 just because of your videos!

  • @stooglemaxs70
    @stooglemaxs70 10 днів тому

    Quickly becoming one of my favourite creators! Keep up the great work 👍🏻

  • @yohannvissault9015
    @yohannvissault9015 11 днів тому +1

    00:37 and i'm already amaze by ur build

  • @dragonkillersgyt851
    @dragonkillersgyt851 11 днів тому +1

    Awsome vid man, love to see the city develop 😄

  • @sciclonic
    @sciclonic 11 днів тому

    This is the most beautiful build I’ve ever seen in CS2

  • @RipperDoc
    @RipperDoc 10 днів тому +1

    Very impressive build as usual! My only wish would be to take some time every episode to zoom out, take stock of the whole city and how the new tile relates to it.

    • @imperatur
      @imperatur  10 днів тому +1

      I do that in the fly in and fly out no?:D

    • @RipperDoc
      @RipperDoc 10 днів тому

      @@imperatur true, true, but it's very short. Just saying it's nice to see everything in context and hear more about how the city is doing.

    • @Funkeneh110
      @Funkeneh110 8 днів тому

      @@RipperDoc His builds are so detailed. I always end up watching the cinematic at the end over again at a 50% reduced speed to give myself more time to take it all in.

  • @giancarlosergi4491
    @giancarlosergi4491 11 днів тому +5

    Wow this station Is surely one of your best ones if not the best. Btw i also have the problem with the game crashing when i move the camera so if you find a solution could you tell us in One of your vids?

    • @imperatur
      @imperatur  11 днів тому

      Lol i have the exact same
      I‘m always afraid my game will crash when I move around…

  • @lordmaplefrost
    @lordmaplefrost 10 днів тому +2

    From my understanding cars only use pedestrian roads when they have no other option.
    If a building connected to a pedestrian road has parking, (internal or external) the cars are probably trying to drive there.

    • @Funkeneh110
      @Funkeneh110 8 днів тому

      I had a similar problem with trains where it would drive backwards to a station only to pull out again and head to its destination. Once I found out where my track was missing a merge and fixed it the backwards train problem went away.

    • @desirerivalzx3193
      @desirerivalzx3193 7 днів тому

      No in my city I Highway i had a 4 way intersection that lead into and out of the city. To reduce traffic but keep connectivity for buses i turned one of these 4 ways into a pedestrian street and zoned nothing on it. The sums still cut through rather then go around. Even with options sometimes the sims break the law.

  • @CitiesInRetro
    @CitiesInRetro 11 днів тому +2

    He's just a chill guy

  • @tactical1981
    @tactical1981 10 днів тому

    Absolute mad man, but in a chill guy way.

  • @eliasvonderkeim
    @eliasvonderkeim 11 днів тому +1

    I'm always getting so inspired after watching those vieos, then i start a new file and give up after 2 hours because i lost all my money and im losing like 20k per hour

  • @Vormex11
    @Vormex11 11 днів тому +1

    Im speechless after this one wow you are the best honestly

    • @imperatur
      @imperatur  10 днів тому

      Thanks bro i appreciate it:)

  • @diegxd4086
    @diegxd4086 10 днів тому

    bro, i think in the dead spaces between the center and the other districts a zoo would be something pretty realistic and interesting. Another thing is that u could make some chill spots very detailed hidden in the city to make it feel more alive and nostalgic like the intersection of the streets Paris and Londres in Santiago de Chile or the Plaza bismarck in Valparaiso where the fotos doesnt make justice to the beautifull and chill of the place. Greetings from Chile

  • @tramway4290
    @tramway4290 11 днів тому +1

    Dont stop bro. Super-puper mega amazing city, and great video editing.
    Best wishes from Rus

  • @KauanFelipe-k
    @KauanFelipe-k 11 днів тому +1

    This gave me a lot of inspiration for my city capital.

  • @averagezing
    @averagezing 9 днів тому

    I'd love to see you recreate something like hudson yards over here. That central station seems to be leading towards the ocean where there can be a trainyard that gets half-built over, just like Hudson Yards :)

  • @breydenmartens8609
    @breydenmartens8609 11 днів тому

    Such a chill guy. Oh yeah the CS2 content is pretty nice too I guess

  • @hitzu111
    @hitzu111 11 днів тому +1

    There's a solution to drastically reduce the number of cars on pedestrian streets - remove all the solid lane connections on intersections leading to pedestrian areas and replace them with dotted connections (holding Alt). Occasionally there still will be some cars that don't follow the rules but most of them won't go there.

  • @defatl3118
    @defatl3118 9 днів тому

    what I find helps with keeping cars off pedestrian streets is to disable turns onto them. it will stop all cars from going on them except service vehicles

  • @KOspace283
    @KOspace283 10 днів тому

    I can't imagine how you come up with this, bravo!

  • @mugon4574
    @mugon4574 11 днів тому +9

    An idea about to stop cars going on pedestrian roads... Can't you use the traffic mod and edit the roads to forcefully stop cars from turning into them? Such as deleting the line between the pedestrain path and the actual road? If this does work however, service cars won't be able to access these buildings unless you specifically hide these service buildings in other buildings on the pedestrain roads... Or if you don't want to use the mod, I guess the ingame mechanics to prevent turning left or right could also be used... Its a shame there isn't anything like what we had in the original game through a mod where we could decide what vehicles could use what roads.

    • @theorixlux
      @theorixlux 11 днів тому +1

      Yes, but I think that prevents services like garbage as well.

    • @mugon4574
      @mugon4574 11 днів тому

      @@theorixlux Indeed, that is why I mentioned hiding such services on the pedestrian walkways so those buildings will be serviced. Of course, this is just an idea I had which can be built upon or completely discarded

    • @theorixlux
      @theorixlux 11 днів тому +1

      @mugon4574 somehow I completely missed that, my bad!

    • @imperatur
      @imperatur  11 днів тому +2

      Hmmm yeah i don’t understand why they don’t work like the pedestrian zones from the plazas and promenades dlc from cs 1

    • @winterscrescendo
      @winterscrescendo 9 днів тому +1

      So far as I can tell, the pedestrian roads have a lane for vehicles that are treated as if they are service vehicle / bus lanes with a very low speed limit. These create a penalty for the route favourability that normally means vehicles won't a route along pedestrian roads.
      The catch is that if the other paths to a destination are much longer or heavily congested, the penalty won't be strong enough to prevent vehicles favouring the pedestrian road. It's the same reason that cars sometimes make illegal turns at a junction or use bus lanes. The alternative routes just score too poorly in pathfinding because of poor traffic flow or length. The same will happen if there's no other route available (eg, a building with a car park or garage that faces onto a pedestrian road).
      Then there's Taxis - they're considered service vehicles so don't get a pathfinding penalty for using pedestrian roads or bus lanes (except for the lower speed limits) in the first place.
      Using road services to prevent a left or right turn onto a pedestrian road won't stop this if the alternative routes score poorly enough. The 'no right turn' sign just adds an extra penalty, it doesn't disconnect the nodes entirely. You can use the lane connections mod to prevent it, but that will also stop service vehicles from accessing the buildings.

  • @damiendrogrey278
    @damiendrogrey278 8 днів тому

    Good build Train station and railway , very realistic !!!

  • @_jiba_
    @_jiba_ 11 днів тому

    No words man, just, super cool build. :)

  • @chengzi6416
    @chengzi6416 11 днів тому +1

    My next megolopolis will be as detailed as this. Will take hella long time but it will be worth it.

  • @timothylang741
    @timothylang741 11 днів тому

    finally some more awesome urban content, don't get me wrong I love industry but the urban regions of the city have felt lacking in size compared to the industrial regions.

  • @MikuDesca
    @MikuDesca 10 днів тому

    new imperatur video day = happy day

  • @AaronReed-k7n
    @AaronReed-k7n 8 днів тому

    Best builder in the game.

  • @ytdanytevero
    @ytdanytevero 11 днів тому +3

    Would you build a historical center too(with the new regional packs)? It would be really cool to be right next to the new city center, to have access to the shoreline and to have an old port but redeveloped with modern buildings like in Hamburg

    • @imperatur
      @imperatur  11 днів тому +4

      I don’t think that would look realistic but I actually planned to start a new series based on hamburg haha

    • @karpador_No125
      @karpador_No125 11 днів тому

      omg hyped already

  • @blitzi9631
    @blitzi9631 11 днів тому +1

    You gave me sooooo much ideas for my citys dude i love your Videos
    Greetings from munich !

    • @imperatur
      @imperatur  11 днів тому +1

      Greetings from bavaria as well:)

    • @blitzi9631
      @blitzi9631 11 днів тому

      Sehr cool! 😎

  • @Pacey-j7x
    @Pacey-j7x 11 днів тому +1

    All thumps pressing Thumb up
    Go

  • @Ben-qq8ly
    @Ben-qq8ly 11 днів тому

    You're too good at this game

  • @kiekrzak_
    @kiekrzak_ 11 днів тому

    After what you say, I am able to say that you have definitely finished some urban planning studies 😅

  • @nfaller89
    @nfaller89 10 днів тому

    You are an Artist!!

  • @CryingAutumn
    @CryingAutumn 10 днів тому

    I’m not 100% sure if this is the case so don’t take my word for it, but I think the issue with cars driving on pedestrian roads is due to building parking lots and such being placed on pedestrian roads meaning the cars would be forced to drive on them. Again, I’m not sure if this is the case but it might be something to consider.

  • @rubecube5218
    @rubecube5218 10 днів тому

    Best one in a while! You are a master of C:S

  • @julianbell7258
    @julianbell7258 11 днів тому

    Great vid! I think you used the same audio clip twice between 5-10 minutes just so u know

  • @trip1
    @trip1 11 днів тому

    best series on youtube

  • @trainformerd4134
    @trainformerd4134 11 днів тому +1

    Mr Chill Guy Imperatur is not very chill on his CPU 🤣🤣😂😂😂

  • @andriusbanev2935
    @andriusbanev2935 11 днів тому

    Very good, especially the different heights, which is quite common for such city centers. it just seemed very gray to me, I don't know if it's because of the graphics and color settings, but at times it looks like North Korea or Belarus, and some buildings are characteristic of that brutalism. so you'd want more colors and glass if it's an American city.

  • @K1tteh
    @K1tteh 10 днів тому

    cars drive on pedestrian roads if they have to, i.e. garbage trucks and police cars. you can make a custom road that has tram tracks instead of a car lane but that might break things in the long run. also you might want to make a custom pedestrian road for trams with a higher speed limit, as they drive at walking speed otherwise

  • @Hamza.alSakir
    @Hamza.alSakir 7 днів тому

    14:24 Netherlands mentioned 🙏👍

  • @deanmanderfeld3385
    @deanmanderfeld3385 11 днів тому +3

    For next episode you should make a busdepot next to the mess of train and metro tracks coming in to the main station as that it verry realistic and you see it in a lot of bigger cities...

  • @HiVoltag3R
    @HiVoltag3R 11 днів тому +1

    That first shot goes hard as fuck

    • @imperatur
      @imperatur  10 днів тому

      🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @KUZEYCICEK2013
    @KUZEYCICEK2013 11 днів тому

    to stop cars from using the pedestrian road you can use the road builder mod to make a new road that only has pedestrian access

  • @leylinelost6563
    @leylinelost6563 11 днів тому +1

    fairly certain non service cars use ped paths if there is integrated parking for buildings in the ped path network. Maybe try deleting invisible parking lot zones with better bulldozer? never tried myself.

    • @imperatur
      @imperatur  11 днів тому

      Okay thanks for the tip! I‘ll try that

  • @miculica
    @miculica 11 днів тому +1

    You are so talented

  • @wutt5176
    @wutt5176 11 днів тому +3

    My favourite episode so far

    • @imperatur
      @imperatur  11 днів тому

      Really?:D

    • @wutt5176
      @wutt5176 11 днів тому

      @imperatur I love trains and train stations in city cores

  • @haikalyadzid1761
    @haikalyadzid1761 10 днів тому

    Amazing video man!

  • @GekkertIV
    @GekkertIV 11 днів тому +1

    Everyday I am just waiting for you to upload

  • @czapka123shorts
    @czapka123shorts 10 днів тому +1

    I have a question: how did you build the surfaces on the road?

  • @deepakrajak8529
    @deepakrajak8529 11 днів тому

    Thanks for the Vid. I will be uninstalling my cs2 now becos why even bother😢

  • @Pacey-j7x
    @Pacey-j7x 11 днів тому

    Nice built

  • @itching2play732
    @itching2play732 10 днів тому

    Your builds are as always incredible. Do you have a mod asset list? I want to get into CS:2 but only if I can dream of making cities like this.

  • @markanthony1004
    @markanthony1004 10 днів тому

    Oh nice a San Antonio mention. We're doing something right...kind of

  • @Dap740
    @Dap740 11 днів тому

    Soo skilled omg

  • @michaelkowalski407
    @michaelkowalski407 11 днів тому +1

    I've got a suggestion when connecting the pedestrian walkways to the streets use the smaller pedestrian walkways to connect it

  • @montagnegign3978
    @montagnegign3978 10 днів тому +2

    what mods are you using?

  • @WhisperingReunion
    @WhisperingReunion 10 днів тому

    Looks great, butttttt can you build it in vanilla 😅

  • @mewosh_
    @mewosh_ 8 днів тому

    Strong Akraus Aurelia vibes

  • @MichaelVermylen
    @MichaelVermylen 11 днів тому +1

    First. Always great videos of beautiful cities.

  • @lavibenarie1765
    @lavibenarie1765 10 днів тому

    If you don't want cars to drive in pedestrian streets use road builder and remove the car lanes

  • @ohjaysimpson397
    @ohjaysimpson397 11 днів тому

    Impressive 🎉

  • @mtrxishere
    @mtrxishere 10 днів тому

    I think you can use the road builder mod to make custom pedestrian streets where cars are banned

  • @thebeingdestroyerofworlds8690
    @thebeingdestroyerofworlds8690 11 днів тому +2

    I think some of the audio repeated, when you were talking about vehicles on pedestrian roads

  • @zacharymartin1876
    @zacharymartin1876 11 днів тому +1

    How do you raise/lower roads? Seems like its hot keyed to your scroll wheel?

    • @imperatur
      @imperatur  10 днів тому

      Page up page down😂

  • @drjonritz
    @drjonritz 10 днів тому

    How cool would it be if police cars and employees acted like agents that would chase down and apprehend offenders? maybe even impound vehicles? it would add quite a lot of drama...chasing down cars that want to joy-ride through a pedestrian zone

  • @Taldon13
    @Taldon13 3 дні тому

    I thought you were about to put the tram thru the art building and now I’m thinking of doing it thru the opening

  • @Legende2301
    @Legende2301 10 днів тому

    when you clip buildings through the ground does the ground also move? or do you just cover it up with paths and keywalls?

  • @zblurth
    @zblurth 11 днів тому +1

    The cars using pedestrian road is not new sadly, I hope they fix it one day but it has been some time since the release of the game
    like it is understandable fire truck or delivery vehicles van use them but maybe somehow in the code the path finding is similar and share this function

  • @KauanFelipe-k
    @KauanFelipe-k 11 днів тому +3

    Why doesn't the game add streets that REALLY only people can pass through, or I don't know, a mechanic that allows you to disable the passage of vehicles on these specific streets?

    • @gris2261
      @gris2261 5 днів тому

      In that case, the game mechanics would not allow mail to be taken from buildings, ambulances would not be able to come to pick up sick citizens, police would not be able to come when a crime is committed, garbage would not be picked up by garbage trucks, and so on.

    • @KauanFelipe-k
      @KauanFelipe-k 5 днів тому +1

      @gris2261 But that's what the street hierarchy is for and it doesn't necessarily need to have anything on those specific streets. It would just be one more mechanic that could be used however you wanted.
      10:18 An example was these bridges over the city, there is no need for cars to pass through those specific ones.

  • @Blood8563
    @Blood8563 11 днів тому +1

    Can someone explain me if what he did at 18:00 (and he does this A LOT), makes the path functional? I'd love to be able to make some "custom" paths, going wherever I want, and conect to paths using Move It. But the "graphics" at the connection makes me believe it is not actually connecting the paths and streets. Will pedestrians use this path?

    • @KauanFelipe-k
      @KauanFelipe-k 11 днів тому +1

      I don't know if these are actually usable, but usually he does it for decoration and doesn't connect it for people to use, but I didn't see it right in this one.

  • @maldacious
    @maldacious 3 дні тому

    You should do a transit map of the city

  • @i_need_a_dakimakura
    @i_need_a_dakimakura 11 днів тому +2

    You do understand how insanely close one to the other your metro stations are placed. You do..?

    • @i_need_a_dakimakura
      @i_need_a_dakimakura 11 днів тому

      Usually there are at least 700 meters between them. Mostly 1-1,5 km

    • @imperatur
      @imperatur  11 днів тому +2

      It will be the dense urban core, in other parts they are more spaced out bro

    • @i_need_a_dakimakura
      @i_need_a_dakimakura 10 днів тому

      @@imperatur anyway there is no reason, whe anybody would make 2 stations with 200 m between them. One of them will only make trains go slowlier

  • @ярослав-ь3р
    @ярослав-ь3р 11 днів тому +1

    круто

  • @hitzu111
    @hitzu111 11 днів тому +1

    Hey Imperatur, could you share the LUT and Lumina settings that you use?

  • @modhistory
    @modhistory 10 днів тому +1

    hey Imperatur vehcials drive on pedestrial roads in my experice if theres parking attached or if its delivivering to buildings or its a taxi/serivce vehcial so remove parking an proble should be solved it at least worked it my small town also they will drive to it if its the only way there they kinda work like a gate comunity zone but in road from hope that helps.