Mythologist Devdutt Pattanaik & Historian Sanjeev Sanyal Share Their Perspectives On India Vs Bharat

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  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2023
  • A resolution to rename India as Bharat may be brought in by the government during Parliament's upcoming special session that is scheduled from September 18-22. The Constitution of India currently refers to the country as "India, that is Bharat...", but there is a growing call to amend this to simply "Bharat" The demand to rename India as Bharat by amending the Constitution has intensified and sources said the Centre may bring a resolution to rename India.
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  • @anand1311
    @anand1311 8 місяців тому +120

    Wow.. heard Devdutt Pattanaik sir for the first time!!
    He's brilliantly PATHETIC! 🎉👏

    • @Arthur-od9wz
      @Arthur-od9wz 8 місяців тому +11

      u got us on the first half not gonna lie🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @CaptSBTyagi
      @CaptSBTyagi 8 місяців тому

      😂 You got it mate!😂
      This Devdutt is farzi, fake, nakli. He is forwarding his coomi agenda.

    • @shivajiaware2123
      @shivajiaware2123 8 місяців тому +1

      Good teaching to Dalal Rahul

  • @chanduji2855
    @chanduji2855 8 місяців тому +100

    1) "Brahmin controlled history"
    2) "Aryan came from outside"
    3) "horses came from outside"
    4) "Sita was kept inside house "
    5) "we hate plurality for purity"
    This pattnaik guy is killing me now 😀

    • @harishkiran3663
      @harishkiran3663 8 місяців тому +6

      When pappu becomes a writer, we get DP😂🤣

    • @deshbhaktstri
      @deshbhaktstri 8 місяців тому +3

      And malech means dirty, chota😂 in reality malech means outsider 😊

    • @FnmsF
      @FnmsF 8 місяців тому +1

      @@deshbhaktstri any foreigner that stood outside the caste system and the ritual ambience. courtesy wiki. so any one out the higher caste is referred as malecha in the brahminical world order.

    • @ashishcodanda6572
      @ashishcodanda6572 8 місяців тому

      🤣🎯✅️🤷

    • @harishkiran3663
      @harishkiran3663 8 місяців тому

      @@deshbhaktstri Mlecha means one who is without Dharma.

  • @SaikatRoy99
    @SaikatRoy99 8 місяців тому +295

    Devdutta is so imaginative that he writes his own mythology. Hence he can be intriguing to some naive novices.

    • @abhihsekb6841
      @abhihsekb6841 8 місяців тому

      ha ha

    • @rahulvartak410
      @rahulvartak410 8 місяців тому

      :-)

    • @sundareshanal1849
      @sundareshanal1849 8 місяців тому +21

      In fact he has been exposed for his false translations and outright mischief.

    • @vineetrodge4099
      @vineetrodge4099 8 місяців тому +7

      He spoke many times that others are fool & he is only educated.

    • @jai6196
      @jai6196 8 місяців тому +4

      He just kept on throwing words Brahmin, Brahminical, Caste, untouchability etc and then called himself a scholar 😂

  • @hrideshkmishra
    @hrideshkmishra 8 місяців тому +246

    Devdutt continuously used the word, "Brahmanical" to point out that Chanakya's irony is that Chanakya helps in uniting the Country by nurturing a non-Bramhin king. Useless to call such people who openly call themselves mythological, which was actually our History.

    • @fiction1795
      @fiction1795 8 місяців тому

      Yes this man is actually a Dumbdutt

    • @sundareshanal1849
      @sundareshanal1849 8 місяців тому

      Devdutt's double speak and hypocrisy has been brutally exposed by people like Nityanand Misra, Rajiv Malhotraji. This man was teaming up the radical left wing , global Hindu bashers and pretended to be part of our pantheon The book on the Ten Ravanas by Infinity Foundation laid bare these intellectual crooks.

    • @Cnu684
      @Cnu684 8 місяців тому +14

      Very true… such fellows who wants only publicity to sell his fiction books

    • @animeshpanda
      @animeshpanda 8 місяців тому

      exactly. what is not healthy is this guys detest of "brahmans". why does india today interview such casteist hatemongers.
      were vedas not written by brahmans ? were any other scripture not written by them? if india comes from sindhu better to call Sindhia right ? but mr. pattnaik will say NO, greek mispronunciation is right. pathetic.

    • @rashmichaturvedi3836
      @rashmichaturvedi3836 8 місяців тому +5

      Agree 1000👍

  • @shahsatyena
    @shahsatyena 8 місяців тому +53

    Sanjeev sanyal sir…. Thank you for such a marvellous explanation… Jai Hind

  • @anarchyishere8312
    @anarchyishere8312 8 місяців тому +162

    This Devdutt is a class act. First he gives a Grade 5 labored history lecture in the etymology of the word India. Then he goes on to say essentially that everything from outside is good, but a word/name from inside the country even if a part of the country - is bad - and we are all small people to want a name that originates from within the land. Furthermore, his anti Hindu and anti Brahaminical bias and pure hate is not even couched, while he calls others political. Class act indeed.

    • @watchtv6911
      @watchtv6911 8 місяців тому +11

      He didn’t even know the Sanskrit roots of Bharat.

    • @watchtv6911
      @watchtv6911 8 місяців тому +7

      Please don’t call Devdutt again. He needs a non- colonial education! There is a reason we do not teach such distorted history in schools. 👎

    • @ssrivastava3
      @ssrivastava3 8 місяців тому +2

      Well, this joker is the product of an unknown father, and that too of foreign heritage. I could have used a single word to describe this joker / character, but that would have been uncivil.

    • @bvsp697
      @bvsp697 8 місяців тому +6

      Arya aryavartas aryans dravidians. North indians south indians. This is the history written by foriegners whose policy is to divide and rule. From himalayas to kanyakumari same vedas and veda mantras are followed. Same ramayana and mahabharatha. Vishnu shiva bramha are also same for entire bharat. Puranas are same. Ashtakshari panchakshari are same. This is the real history of bharat. over a period of time practices may have some difference. This is santhana dharma. This is making us unity in diversity. Dont fall prey to westerners written history. In schools we are thaught that. We believe that it is true. But that is not our real history. Some one outside comes and say this is epic and we accept that. It is slavery. For outsider who is a hypocrite we dont have to prove that it happened. Vedas puranas sanathana darma are our identity. Our history started when paramatma started creation. That is our unity in diversity. This is Bharat.

    • @nitin1240
      @nitin1240 8 місяців тому

      That $¢umbag Danavdutt is a known current time Deep State narrative constructor to brainwash contemporary generation.

  • @user-gd4bg6gk3n
    @user-gd4bg6gk3n 8 місяців тому +117

    Devdutt is like Bilawal 🤢and Sanjeev is like Dr Jaishankar ❤

    • @biobharat
      @biobharat 8 місяців тому +1

      Again pakistan connection, pakistan na hota to kya karte hum log 😂😂😂

    • @user-gd4bg6gk3n
      @user-gd4bg6gk3n 8 місяців тому

      @@biobharat 😁😁

    • @sanidhyasuman1428
      @sanidhyasuman1428 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@biobharatkoi na hamare country mein v bohot Pappu hai...😂

    • @kakun63
      @kakun63 8 місяців тому

      to fir se bana ke unpr hagte@@biobharat

  • @sanjaymohta2069
    @sanjaymohta2069 8 місяців тому +233

    Pattanaik is just a nautanki.
    Sanjeev sanyal is a gem😊

    • @RojaJaneman
      @RojaJaneman 8 місяців тому +7

      Not nautanki, he’s a dhartipe boj

    • @rumadadarkar5325
      @rumadadarkar5325 8 місяців тому

      Well said .

    • @nanikarc5826
      @nanikarc5826 8 місяців тому

      Yeah stupid guy this Devdutt. Sanjeev Sanyal is ssooooo knowledgable and explains well and addresses the questionⁿ

    • @geetatripathi2454
      @geetatripathi2454 8 місяців тому +2

      Just because you dont know facts so you call Patnaik nautanki

    • @n______n26
      @n______n26 8 місяців тому

      Sanjeev is an privileged entitled arrogant nepotism product has no sense of common sense/strifes of people

  • @dibsdg2117
    @dibsdg2117 8 місяців тому +136

    What a difference between the two guests... Sanjeev Sanyal is a gem

  • @ubtr9n805
    @ubtr9n805 8 місяців тому +207

    Devdutt was creating a split by saying brahminical, south and north indian, arian. He himself admitted that India name was coined by external people. Bharath is the word used in the Vedas as well to describe our geography. Sanjeev put everything in right perspective. Ya, wondering what is there to debate. Both names are acceptable

    • @alani3992
      @alani3992 8 місяців тому +7

      India is a geography. Bharat is a religio-cultural term.
      Even the biggest king Ashoka never used the term Bharat.

    • @Akash-tl6rm
      @Akash-tl6rm 8 місяців тому +11

      @@alani3992 Geography is an objective construct devoid of values and identity. A nation's roots are to be traced to heritage and cultural moorings on which it is built upon. Asoka using or not using the term is immaterial when there are enough pre-Mauryan texts like Vishnupuran and Mahabharat mentions Bharata.

    • @ronarona4329
      @ronarona4329 8 місяців тому +3

      He is not creating a split
      He was talking about a split which was there in our old times
      And some of us don’t want to hear harsh truths

    • @ubtr9n805
      @ubtr9n805 8 місяців тому +12

      @@ronarona4329 he is indeed doing that. In the name Bharat where is brahminical coming and Aryan invasion theory is proven to be bogus. Still he wants to put across those irrelevant points to instigate people not to accept the name.

    • @ronarona4329
      @ronarona4329 8 місяців тому +3

      @@ubtr9n805 Aryan invasion is not bogus
      I don’t know from where u got that info.
      Brahmanical hegemony is a true thing
      How can u defend that
      It is the fundamental of all sanatan texts
      And still some parts of India people are facing it.
      Don’t try to hide rather accept and move fwd

  • @VSushant
    @VSushant 8 місяців тому +223

    Sanjeev Sanyal is a gem who talks facts.

    • @Stoiccynic224
      @Stoiccynic224 8 місяців тому +4

      I think he's a gem because he talks what you like to hear..😂.

    • @ratnamahtani7128
      @ratnamahtani7128 8 місяців тому

      😮I

    • @Arthur-od9wz
      @Arthur-od9wz 8 місяців тому +7

      he literally spoke facts..lol...tht is wht people are appreciating@@Stoiccynic224...

    • @nirrmanchoudhury7248
      @nirrmanchoudhury7248 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@@Stoiccynic224 Arthur sometimes facts pain deep to fools ... and they try to smirk this with dud arguments....

    • @geetatripathi2454
      @geetatripathi2454 8 місяців тому +2

      Somehow Devdutt has better information as compared to Sanjeev Sanyal. It looks like History competition. And who is he to correct Devdutt Patnaik. He should talk in context of Vedas and Puranas. Should get his facts right. From where did all tribes meet and agreed this seems to be something loosing out with facts. Suggest people to go and see the inscribe in Hathigumpha.

  • @AA_135
    @AA_135 8 місяців тому +86

    In such an important matter, Devdutt Pattnaik lied through his teeth. Check his financial records to see who funds him. The keys should be thrown away if he is found guilty.

    • @sarojadhikari8868
      @sarojadhikari8868 8 місяців тому +4

      Sanjib Sanyal is a RSS ideologue, so
      he will propagate his own idejology.

    • @chanduji2855
      @chanduji2855 8 місяців тому +4

      Who funds him?
      Open society?
      Bil Milinda gates foundation?

    • @dr_mridul_sharma
      @dr_mridul_sharma 8 місяців тому +7

      ​@sarojadhikari8868 but does his statement correlates with facts??? Yess
      So, he may be rss ideologue but he stands. Correct 😊

    • @shivanandtripathi7821
      @shivanandtripathi7821 8 місяців тому +9

      @@sarojadhikari8868 counter on facts buddy.

    • @rakshithgowda2048
      @rakshithgowda2048 8 місяців тому +10

      ​​@@sarojadhikari8868having d same ideology doesn't change d facts... He gives facts and his argument is always backed by facts... Y is rss ideology or rss way of thinking so bad... R they terrorists?? 😂😂😂

  • @vocabsimplified3732
    @vocabsimplified3732 8 місяців тому +37

    Thank you Sanjeev sir for such a logical explanation.

  • @variablex6928
    @variablex6928 8 місяців тому +60

    Did Devdutt just refer to himself as a scholar! Oops.

    • @alani3992
      @alani3992 8 місяців тому +1

      He puts forward ideas.
      But maybe humans don't want to think for themselves.

    • @user-rr9ct7ko1y
      @user-rr9ct7ko1y 8 місяців тому +5

      ​@@alani3992ideas or narratives to sow the seeds of division?

    • @Anp562
      @Anp562 8 місяців тому

      Dogs often sniff their own ass

    • @alani3992
      @alani3992 8 місяців тому +1

      @@user-rr9ct7ko1y His thoughts are inclusive, not divisive.
      But if you think otherwise, I won't restrict your free-thought.

    • @buri_buri_Z
      @buri_buri_Z 8 місяців тому +8

      ​@@alani3992hus thoughts doesn't seem inclusive of brahmins , he literally hates brahmins and even though he tries to hide it in some way it still comes out . And then comes his distorted version of history .

  • @Resurfacing
    @Resurfacing 8 місяців тому +38

    Very confused Pattnaik. Waffling his way through. Can he even hear himself - as his every sentence contradicts his previous ones? Bravo Mr Sanyal.

    • @rumadadarkar5325
      @rumadadarkar5325 8 місяців тому

      He sounded confused and does not have any knowledge

    • @maloo9898
      @maloo9898 8 місяців тому

      How can he hear himself when he is sooo focussed on how he sounds? The brain is muddled.
      Somebody please tell him he doesnt need to try and sound husky in order to seem authentic. He can just get a backbone and talk about facts clearly and people will listen.

  • @zombieant7873
    @zombieant7873 8 місяців тому +118

    Wow.... I never thought anyone could beat TV serials in non sense and illogical arguments, until I saw Devdutt speak. He never disappoints🤣
    Logic and history completely left the chat😂

    • @gauravdey4163
      @gauravdey4163 8 місяців тому +1

      We don't care we are charvak s

  • @nikhilrevankar
    @nikhilrevankar 8 місяців тому +26

    Devdutt is full of imagination. He simply talks with 200% confidence.

  • @petechau6314
    @petechau6314 8 місяців тому +58

    India is name given by foreign . If they cannot pronounce name - is it not their problem?Their problem is made our problem by dot India movement. Shameful to say the least

    • @rakshithgowda2048
      @rakshithgowda2048 8 місяців тому

      No matter how many times u say that... D western boot lickers will never accept it

  • @prasannakumar7273
    @prasannakumar7273 8 місяців тому +22

    Bharath is the original name of our country 🙏

  • @satishm3573
    @satishm3573 8 місяців тому +26

    This guy summarizing Bharat as a divisive Brahminical ideology is nonsensical

  • @travellervishalshetty
    @travellervishalshetty 8 місяців тому +19

    Thank you Sanjeev Sanyal for that session

  • @janvysatya6595
    @janvysatya6595 8 місяців тому +35

    Devdut is crazy

    • @rumadadarkar5325
      @rumadadarkar5325 8 місяців тому

      And he is also Brainless

    • @iaanish
      @iaanish 8 місяців тому

      He was crazy good. Sanyal was loud and crass. his Tholpakium take itself exposes him. Sorry unless you are a Tamil you won't understand it.

    • @janvysatya6595
      @janvysatya6595 8 місяців тому

      @@iaanish then you will also believe India came from indhu lol

    • @iaanish
      @iaanish 8 місяців тому

      @@janvysatya6595 india can come from anywhere, before you comment on tamil language and culture as a historian, he should have done some 5 paise worth of research. There is no book called Tholpakium. It is Tholkapium, probably worlds first written book on grammar for a language. it is tamil and hence an indian book. have some respect when you take its name in public space as a historian. he is more of a votebank historian, spinning stories than a respectfully introspecting historian who talks with proof.

  • @ssrivastava3
    @ssrivastava3 8 місяців тому +34

    Sanjeev Sanyal at his best. Thank you Sanjeev. And that person Devdutt. He masquerades as very knowledgable and peddles his own concoctions as History. Which by the way very often calls it mythology. Myths ! He has been intellectually ripped apart by Rajiv Malhotra which I’ve read. Great show India Today

  • @playhard719
    @playhard719 8 місяців тому +3

    My Brain cells are dying 1000000 times faster listening to Devdutt thank fully India Today also invited sane people like Sanjeev Sanyal.

  • @ts0hari
    @ts0hari 8 місяців тому +27

    Are there multiple names for Davdutt Pattnaik? Can we call him as Patti to celebrate our plurality!

    • @chanduji2855
      @chanduji2855 8 місяців тому +3

      Call him Davinson, he will look more plural and secular.

    • @teachersconference8932
      @teachersconference8932 8 місяців тому +1

      Lets ask Dev if he wants to be called Asur - plurality , diversity , 😮

  • @TheNarendra73
    @TheNarendra73 8 місяців тому +21

    Now I can imagine why he may have been shown the door at Reliance Group.

  • @itsmebuddy4580
    @itsmebuddy4580 8 місяців тому +27

    BHARAT a wonderful move. No problems at all.

  • @sabertooth207
    @sabertooth207 8 місяців тому +24

    We need TV debates like this where we can learn something

    • @satyajit2007
      @satyajit2007 8 місяців тому +8

      U don’t learn anything from here . Go and read good books . What debadutt is telling is entirely misleading and political

    • @rakshithgowda2048
      @rakshithgowda2048 8 місяців тому +3

      ​​@@satyajit2007there is a lot to learn from historians like Sanjeev sanyal ... Devdutt just makes things up in his head n just dumps it on d ppl

    • @artculture1711
      @artculture1711 8 місяців тому +5

      Devdutt Pattnaik's "brahmanical" rant falls flat when people realise who the authors of Bharat's greatest revered epics 'Ramayan' & 'Mahabharat' are. They are 'Valmiki', a 'Bhill' fisherman turned dacoit turned sage. And 'Vyas', the son of a 'boat rover' (maajhi) woman Satyawati. "Brahmanical attrocity" treated these "low caste" members of the society so badly that they not only made their epics foundations of their own culture & view of the world, but also elevated these "low caste untouchables" into 'Maharshis' .. Maha-Rishis, the greatest of 'Brahmins'.
      So much for that idiotic, agenda centric Devdutt Pattnaik's credibility.

    • @sanbalakrishnan
      @sanbalakrishnan 8 місяців тому

      He has access to some good quality “stuff” that he smokes, snorts

  • @janvysatya6595
    @janvysatya6595 8 місяців тому +43

    Sanjeev is the best

  • @merlynmenezes_0106
    @merlynmenezes_0106 8 місяців тому +17

    Woke up from long slumber to change name...
    Call it the way you want... India/Bharat/Hindustan it's our country...🇮🇳😍

    • @alani3992
      @alani3992 8 місяців тому +3

      Yes like Deutschland/Alemania/Nymecho/Tyskland/Germany is one country.
      Many names signify deep & ancient relations.

    • @user-gd4bg6gk3n
      @user-gd4bg6gk3n 8 місяців тому

    • @chanduji2855
      @chanduji2855 8 місяців тому

      @@alani3992 can you elaborate the old names and new names of above countries you mentioned above?plz?

    • @diwa0071983
      @diwa0071983 8 місяців тому

      You hit the nail on the head. The slumber was precisely for 9 years.

    • @alani3992
      @alani3992 8 місяців тому +1

      @@chanduji2855 Those are all names for Germany. In Southern Europe its called 'Alemania', in Eastern Europe 'Nymecho' etc.
      Btw even Norway, Sweden, Hungary, Austria, Croatia etc are just the English names of those countries.

  • @Anushilansamiti80
    @Anushilansamiti80 8 місяців тому +64

    Devdutt Pattanaik’s credibility comprehensively demolished by Sanjeev Sanyal sir.

    • @geetatripathi2454
      @geetatripathi2454 8 місяців тому +4

      No not really go and read facts. Just speaking assertively doesn't specify Sanjeev Sanyal is correct

    • @Goofyderclown
      @Goofyderclown 8 місяців тому

      ​@geetatripathi2454 Sanjeev sanyal is wholly correct in what he's saying.

  • @petechau6314
    @petechau6314 8 місяців тому +61

    Sadhguru said” Name BHARAT will change destiny for better” . Name is everything in Sanatan dharma. If what is in a name - then why Muslims of BHARAT have Arabic names and Christians have European names??? BHARAT means civilizational identity- the only one survived while other 44 civilizations destroyed with “ changing names of civilizations”

    • @chandrakantshanbhag3058
      @chandrakantshanbhag3058 8 місяців тому

      Destroyed by CHRISTIANITY and ISLAM during HOLY WARS.
      CRUSADE
      INQUISITION
      HOLOCAUST.
      ETC.
      Let someone explain what are the contribution of these two religions for MANKIND and PEACE?

    • @vykuntapufangtxpreet9546
      @vykuntapufangtxpreet9546 8 місяців тому +1

      Well *SADGHGURU* Is A Fraud Guru But I Agree With Him Here.

  • @rohiticku
    @rohiticku 8 місяців тому +19

    Lol Mr. Pattanaik was so terrible in his arguments. I mean he said Arabs call Egypt Misr. Fine, but Egypt is not called Misr. His example actually contradicts the idea of having multiple names officially. His eventually fell back on the strawman argument around Brahmin/Brahiminical/Brahminism.

    • @chanduji2855
      @chanduji2855 8 місяців тому

      Indians too call Egypt as Missr

  • @Anilthemusician
    @Anilthemusician 8 місяців тому +8

    I used to respect Sanjeev sanyal before this debate, but post listening to Dedutt patnail, I even more respect Sanjeev sanyal 😂

  • @riyapatil1395
    @riyapatil1395 7 місяців тому +4

    I was planning to read Mr. Pattanaik's books, but after listening to his explanations, I think I should save myself from the headache. All those who read his books to understand history, May God Save You.

  • @surfingguru5360
    @surfingguru5360 8 місяців тому +16

    it baffles me that we as Indians in 2023 are debating over the name and discussing history to justify the usage of the name Bharat, each and every Bhartiya must have been taught or known that India is called Bharat. No body is "changing" the name just using the original one.

  • @rajeevbhatt6842
    @rajeevbhatt6842 8 місяців тому +10

    Patnaik is shamelessly divisive.

  • @muralidharchalapathy7855
    @muralidharchalapathy7855 8 місяців тому +9

    When devdutt said scholar.. I almost fell off my chair..😂😂.. Bharath is brahminical... Level of his scholarship is exposed

  • @madankulkarni1715
    @madankulkarni1715 8 місяців тому +11

    Devdutt is mystiriously singulor in explaning multi- diversified roots of bharat to bhraminism where as Sanjeev is strightforward & factful & convincing

    • @ytskt
      @ytskt 8 місяців тому +1

      yes he was throwing all sorts of usual anti Hindu tropes hoping something would stick.... proved himself as an idiot instead

  • @CosmicKey-dj3gx
    @CosmicKey-dj3gx 8 місяців тому +11

    I have a cold today, I blame Brahmanical Hindu society for my troubles

  • @cloudsain2082
    @cloudsain2082 8 місяців тому +4

    Sanjeev Sir brilliantly summarised the whole controversy with that "India that was Bharat" point in the end

  • @kishorekhot
    @kishorekhot 8 місяців тому +6

    Game Set and Match
    Sanjeev Sanyal ! Simply Brilliant !

  • @maheshpv8278
    @maheshpv8278 8 місяців тому +13

    After this debate someone had a nervous breakdown. Hope he is alright.

    • @ytskt
      @ytskt 8 місяців тому

      He did it to himself.

  • @gautamchandran
    @gautamchandran 8 місяців тому +11

    The negativity n hate in Pattnaik s words is in sheer contrast with hope n positivity that of Sanyal's

  • @arijitnaskar8151
    @arijitnaskar8151 8 місяців тому +8

    Sanjeev sanyal is brilliant

  • @pinkikarve5615
    @pinkikarve5615 8 місяців тому +10

    Seriously ??? Devdutt Pattanaik ??? OMG so much of time pass …. Ufff. You are insulting Sanjeev Sanyal’s intelligence to put him with Pattanaik.

  • @chandrashivpuri1224
    @chandrashivpuri1224 8 місяців тому +8

    To use Devdutt Pattnaik as a expert is a riot ! This guy does not know the books which he has most probably not read in depth or in detail. One should read the critique on his expounding. The Lutyens media with their own inferiority complex are very quick to embrace this guys explanation, because they of course don’t have time to read. “ Andho main kana raja “ !

  • @manojtrivedi5368
    @manojtrivedi5368 8 місяців тому +6

    Great sharing by Sanjeev & justifying the debate. Devdutt & people like him are trying to create a split among the people & our country. JAY BHARAT.

  • @rajotavo
    @rajotavo 8 місяців тому +28

    This Pattanaik is suspect...he does not know Sanskrit yet had made tall claims...'India' is a Latin ( Roman) word.....an exonym as Rahul correctly pointed out. What is Pattanaik talki9ng about?!! The so called Indo-Aryans came fr "outside" ...so? Even the earliest Indians. i.e., the aborigines' or Austro-Asiatic ppl came via the sea cost fr Africa! So, literally every group in India has an origin outside this land! Pattanaik is obviously playing politics...

    • @sundareshanal1849
      @sundareshanal1849 8 місяців тому +2

      Not suspect. He is structured fraud.

    • @iaanish
      @iaanish 8 місяців тому

      Then how did caste system originate and why are 350 million indians outside this graded system treated as untouchables?. my question is not meant to hurt anyone's belief, sentiment or brain.

    • @rajotavo
      @rajotavo 8 місяців тому

      @@iaanish where did u get this data?!

    • @iaanish
      @iaanish 8 місяців тому

      @@rajotavo too bad you don't know the population of SC/STs in india. look it up.

    • @rajotavo
      @rajotavo 8 місяців тому

      @@iaanish that includes SC and ST...right? They get govt. reservations...so? What is ur point? Untouchability is banned by Indian law. It has been acted upon...more needs to be executed on that front ..not denying the dark social side we still have...but what is ur point?

  • @Cloudninerains
    @Cloudninerains 8 місяців тому +11

    The word Sindhu has its etmological roots in Tamil. Just because it is in North India doesnt mean it should be sanskirit. Indhumathi is a Tamil word as well. Inthu and mathi both refer to moon in tamil, and that kind of two differenet phonemes meaning same is predominant characterstic of tamil language than in sanskirit. Such a linguistic structure is classified and categorized as heteronym. Similarly other example is 'Kaarmegam'....both kaar and megam mean clouds. Looks like india today only finds historians nearby😁

  • @ashishcodanda6572
    @ashishcodanda6572 8 місяців тому +2

    Sanjeev Sanyal is 👌 ....needs no further debate 👏 ... 🇮🇳💪✌️🚩

  • @VivekKumar-gc3yx
    @VivekKumar-gc3yx 8 місяців тому +6

    How can you call such a bigot on your channel....he has such a hate for brahmins...just repeating brahminical whether it makes sense or not....why does he hate Hinduism put Jains, Buddhists and outsiders in good context.

  • @watchtv6911
    @watchtv6911 8 місяців тому +6

    I knew this Devdutt would start this woke narrative

  • @subbusharma220
    @subbusharma220 8 місяців тому +17

    Devdutt a scholar…🤣🤣🤣

  • @rajsingh2363
    @rajsingh2363 8 місяців тому +25

    Devdutt can only tell stories

  • @incubusk8r
    @incubusk8r 8 місяців тому +31

    as any one can predict devdutt is crying on his twitter. i was actually a big fan of his work even before his tv shows until he took a hard left.

    • @alani3992
      @alani3992 8 місяців тому +1

      Congrats on wanting to hear what you 'want' to hear.
      Great human potential.

    • @incubusk8r
      @incubusk8r 8 місяців тому +8

      @@alani3992 No really i really was a big fan. This debate was pre recorded and questions given long before hand, still the scholar got his FACTS WRONG. After he had ample time to prepare.
      Right now Devdutt is spiralling out of his mind on twitter.
      What is there to hear what i want to here when you have your facts wrong.
      He is going crazy (breaking friendships) and brahmin bashing and admits that he hates brahmins coz they question him. what i mean you hate people coz they ask questions? I have no love for brahmins i am a dalit (passi) my self. but he doesn't know how to handle an asswhopping.
      He would have his dignity if he just tweeted i am sorry i got a few facts wrong, good night and tomorrow is another day. A very thinned skin scholar i must say.

    • @user-rr9ct7ko1y
      @user-rr9ct7ko1y 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@incubusk8rvery well articulated, everything I had in my mind.
      Also he accused Rahul of divide & rule for a simple enquiry that probably many have & went on to be nauseatingly divisive himself without any provocation.

    • @incubusk8r
      @incubusk8r 8 місяців тому

      @@alani3992 believe me when i say this. I was your typical urban kid with an passion for marxist ideology and atheist. He, in a way made me a "born again hindu" abet still an atheist.
      But his new avatar of being this left brahmin bashing, not listening to any one and this passive aggressive blocking nonsence, and belitteling people who have genuine questions, sensitive one is putting many of his own fans off.
      all i can say is he WAS a great scholor and a human today after taking a hard left, he is a bitter bitter man and a horrible human. AND IT PAINS ME TO SAY IT.

    • @nowonami2524
      @nowonami2524 8 місяців тому +1

      he forgot to say that outsiders (arabs) called certain people 'Hindu'. yet these same people (brahmans) insist on yelling "garv se kaho hum Hindu hai".

  • @TheNarendra73
    @TheNarendra73 8 місяців тому +4

    How many times did Devdutt mention about Brahamin/ Brahmanical??? Really ?Why?What’s your agenda?

  • @ssb26
    @ssb26 8 місяців тому +5

    Mythologist - my foot.

  • @mukeshsaxena403
    @mukeshsaxena403 8 місяців тому +2

    Devdutt Patnaik, Ravish kumar, Prashant Bhushan,Yogendra Yadav, Udaynidhi Stailin, Asaduddin Obesi Etc.....All Namse of one Soul

  • @bakuljavadekar6767
    @bakuljavadekar6767 8 місяців тому +4

    Patnaik tries hard to mislead. He contradicts himself several times. On the one side he claims that Sindhu became Hindu bcoz Persians could not pronounce S, Hindus became Indus bcoz Greeks couldn’t pronounce even H. Then he goes on to spin the theory of Indumati! Was Indumati named so due to Persian and Greek considerations? Absurd! Indisputable fact is that the word has come from Persian and Greek distortions! And that it was the foreigners who gave us the name India.

  • @swaritaray6457
    @swaritaray6457 8 місяців тому +3

    Thank you Mr. Sanyal for this very logical view point

  • @PriyeRai
    @PriyeRai 8 місяців тому +5

    2:00-3:12 Mr Pattnaik very predictably advertised this mentality of "let others do it since it's characteristic to them but let us choose inaction because we are not like them" by leveraging the foolish, self-righteous, emotional garb of owning one's pluralism. This mentality basically opens the way to "let others walk over us because that's who they are, let us not learn from that and allow them to walk over us again as they please since we are that damn good-hearted". That seems like the mentality of someone who is happy eternally playing second-fiddle and being unimportant. The point he implied about plurality of gods being something unique to Bharat and The West having singular God-origins isn't even true. Before the politically-motivated spread of middle-eastern religions, most if not all of what now constitutes the West had multiple Gods (Greek pantheon, Norse pantheon). Multiple Gods has been a shared aspect of communities all across the world before the spread of middle-eastern cults that was often done through forced conversions.

  • @sashwatpanda14
    @sashwatpanda14 8 місяців тому +4

    Sanyal sahab finishes in style, both the debate and that devdutt😂

  • @svramakrishnan124
    @svramakrishnan124 8 місяців тому +3

    A good discussion…of course, Mr. Sanyal is more clear about what he has to say with historical facts, and very convincing….his explanations should be read or listened by more people to know what is what… happy that both 🇮🇳 India and Bharath are oringinally from our land only. Period. Thanks to Sanyal.

  • @1977vsk
    @1977vsk 8 місяців тому +5

    What a Oothiya, this DDP😅 Never knew this fellow is of this epic level

  • @prasantmohanty4075
    @prasantmohanty4075 8 місяців тому +4

    Sanjiv is a great person

  • @niteshtripathi6721
    @niteshtripathi6721 8 місяців тому +7

    What does this man(devdutt) has against brahmins

    • @AhamBrahmosmi
      @AhamBrahmosmi 8 місяців тому

      Congress funds

    • @aashish.purohit
      @aashish.purohit 8 місяців тому

      He is Wyndi doneger dattak 'putra', Established to distort Hindu History

  • @AshokKumar-cz5vl
    @AshokKumar-cz5vl 8 місяців тому +2

    When you use Brahmin word repeatedly in your talk, Devadattji, it looks more political than academic,....
    But no worries, now in India every one is political and they want their argument to win.
    Yet, your description is very knowledgeable.

  • @rahuljagarwal153
    @rahuljagarwal153 8 місяців тому +3

    Devdhoot works for his colonial masters and want to keep them happy..

  • @aTopazBlade39859
    @aTopazBlade39859 8 місяців тому +3

    His other name is dhuttDhutt (like one says to dog) derived from Sanskrit Devdutt. He should gladly accept plurality.

  • @greenroad343
    @greenroad343 8 місяців тому +1

    Yesterday this conversation had different format. Both participants were in discussion/dialog mode. The present one is in the form of two lectures by Devdutt and Sanyal. Why was the original conversation suddenly taken off UA-cam ? Who objected to the format ? Sanyal or Devdutt ? Devdutt became more assertive in the present one.
    Devdutt is backward. He only studies, interprets , and disseminates mythology. Sangh pariwar is forward looking. It creates mythology.
    Sangh has clear objectives and strategy to achieve goals. They don't do anything without a purpose. They are also proactive and take the initiative. I really appreciate the strategic thinkers in the backroom who evolve strategies. Any one who opposes them is only in reactive mode.
    Any religion must take the control over the thoughts of the target people. Words are powerful. They can both aid or interfere with the pracharak's goals. Making the word "India" as foreign is an intelligent ploy.
    It appears that the ruling dispensation feels that "oneness" against the "other" (unite the Hindus to created divide between Hindus and foreign religions) will continue to yield electoral results. Will economic law of diminishing returns apply to this situation ?
    We Indians (and Hindus) are diverse groups. There is no need to "unite" us. We have been living in our zones as well as interacting with different internal cultures fairly well since independence.
    It is our diversity that has sustained democracy. Not our wisdom. We are as human as anyone else in the world. Democracy essentially means freedom of thought and action to the individual. There are two axis of freedoms- social and economic. The current regime offer low level of freedom on both axis.
    It's time for citizens to think about the underlying objectives and purpose. Indians need freedom and economic well-being. Hope we get it

  • @RahulYadav-hz6nd
    @RahulYadav-hz6nd 8 місяців тому +2

    That person Sanjeev sanyal is member of ecoconomic advisory council to pm but he speaks on everything except economy. This is the USP of WhatsApp university

  • @mrinmoyc1191
    @mrinmoyc1191 8 місяців тому +4

    Mr Rahul, next time you get 2 experts. Make them debate an issue together.

  • @AMITKUMAR-bv7qm
    @AMITKUMAR-bv7qm 8 місяців тому +4

    I don't know how India signifies the plurality as arguments presented by Devdutt patnaik. There's complete lack of rationality presented by him. If this is the level of our so called intelligentsia then how could we become vishwaguru ?

  • @mgnishkam-Life-Insurance
    @mgnishkam-Life-Insurance 8 місяців тому +2

    By this discussion with Devdutt Pattnaik only one thing came out prominently and that he is very opinionated against Brahmins.
    At one point he showed his hate for Kshtriyas also, and for Kshatriya is more than even Brahmins.

  • @offencebestdefence500
    @offencebestdefence500 8 місяців тому +2

    Sanyal, calm collected Brilliance 🫡

  • @kaushiksivakumar
    @kaushiksivakumar 8 місяців тому +6

    i am surprised how Devdutt is even counted as an expert on these matters. bharatam is a name heavily used in ancient tamil lietrature too.

  • @yogforpeace
    @yogforpeace 8 місяців тому +5

    Devdutra bhai kuch bhi logic lagaoge kya ?

  • @davidrajan2795
    @davidrajan2795 8 місяців тому +1

    The background history for Bharatas: The Bharatas were an early Vedic tribe that existed in the latter half of the second millennium B.C.
    The earliest mentioned location of the Bharatas was on the first Sarasvatī River in southern Afghanistan. Led by the tribal king Divodāsa, the Bharatas moved through the Hindu Kush mountains and defeated Śambara. Divodāsa's descendant, Sudās, won the Battle of the Ten Kings against a Pūru-led coalition, after which the initial compilation of hymns of the R̥gveda was carried out.[citation needed] After the battle, the Bharatas and other Pūru clans eventually formed the Kuru Kingdom, which was the first attested state in Indian history. The name Bharata is of Indo-Aryan and Indo-Iranian origin, meaning "bearers" or "carriers". (Taken from Wikipedia)

  • @abhiallen83
    @abhiallen83 8 місяців тому +1

    So tomorrow if westerners start calling this patnaik guy “jerk” or “maniac” , he will celebrate that word because of his pluralism and multiplicity! 😅

  • @watchtv6911
    @watchtv6911 8 місяців тому +3

    Please don’t call Devdutt again. He needs a non- colonial education! There is a reason we do not teach such distorted history in schools. 👎

  • @satyajit2007
    @satyajit2007 8 місяців тому +3

    Unfortunately lot of middle class Indians learn Hinduism through Debadutt . He often morphs Indic thoughts to suit his woke audience

  • @Technocrat97
    @Technocrat97 8 місяців тому +1

    Sanjeev’s explanation is absolutely correct! Thank you Sanjeev 🙏🇮🇳

  • @sharadhsubadra18
    @sharadhsubadra18 8 місяців тому +1

    Devdutt is absolutely a valuable gem who should be exhibited in the Tower of London, we could exchange it with Kohinoor...

  • @ajitrao9223
    @ajitrao9223 8 місяців тому +6

    Sanjeev Sanyal has explained this quite well. Devdutt speaks as though he has been paid by the opposition

  • @ShadowQ8486
    @ShadowQ8486 8 місяців тому +3

    Devdutt himself is a myth.

  • @poojamitra3990
    @poojamitra3990 8 місяців тому +1

    Thank you Sanyalji…. Very convincing

  • @samshri8320
    @samshri8320 8 місяців тому +1

    Bharat Arthat India in Hindi version should be more widely publicised, as there Bharat comes first!!

  • @rohitkashyap1051
    @rohitkashyap1051 8 місяців тому +4

    Most appauling thing which exposes the likes of Devdutt Patnayak is.....there is no proposal to ban the use of India.
    Once u keep that in mind......90% of what DP says is rona dhona about lack of plurality/ caste discrimination/ and what not......
    He gives away his politics, and frustration.....when he could have just spoken about his understanding of history

  • @sriranga1000
    @sriranga1000 8 місяців тому +6

    For get all,about history mythology ?one simple,fact is India was coined by British Why hang on to British Legacyn even after independence .So Bharath is the right name

    • @UjwalRam
      @UjwalRam 8 місяців тому

      Right point. Why all these discussions. At that time they wanted to include Britain flag as well in our flag . I was shocked reading that .

    • @kaalishanmugam5796
      @kaalishanmugam5796 8 місяців тому

      Well then one should start with "Hindu" which was more probably straight up coined the by the British to refer to a religion unlike India which like they said, goes far beyond British.

    • @Admiralmoti
      @Admiralmoti 8 місяців тому

      ​@@kaalishanmugam5796And right after that, let's remove "Dravidians" too since the Brits coined the term.

  • @Technocrat97
    @Technocrat97 8 місяців тому +1

    Absolutely agree that Devdutt’s interpretation of South and North is in factual

  • @amitgoyal7940
    @amitgoyal7940 8 місяців тому +2

    What a reply to Rahul from Devdutt. Should see change of face colour

  • @AbThinker
    @AbThinker 8 місяців тому +2

    Someone's mispronunciation became my country's name.

  • @Arthur-od9wz
    @Arthur-od9wz 8 місяців тому +3

    for someone like devdutt who unfortunately knws some history and is famous and promotes the divide n rule someone like Sanjeev sir was the best kryptonite..his every facts tht he was twisting was pointed out and checked this is what we want more people like Sanjeev sir who can take on these pseudo intellectuals

    • @sumanair9317
      @sumanair9317 8 місяців тому

      As far as this discussion is concerned, Devadutt was clear and Sanyal was fumbling

    • @Goofyderclown
      @Goofyderclown 8 місяців тому

      ​@sumanair9317 yes and you are Einstein. Now shut up. Patt-anaik got patt se head by Sanjeev sanyal

  • @ujwalmokashi6702
    @ujwalmokashi6702 8 місяців тому +1

    Wow. Parnaik ticked all the propaganda boxes.
    1. Caste checked..
    2. Foreign over native checked.
    3. Hindu vs other. Glad that he favoured Jains.
    4. South vs North..

  • @shywatching
    @shywatching 8 місяців тому +1

    This Patanai should not be given a platform for insulting us.
    He says Hindu texts were all created by Brahmins. Valmiki who wrote the Ramayana was a Dalit, so was Veda Vaasa.

  • @padhuvaidy7769
    @padhuvaidy7769 8 місяців тому +3

    This is over when you started with Bharat has more ‘Indic’ roots 😂

  • @sharraadprabhuddas7949
    @sharraadprabhuddas7949 8 місяців тому +3

    India, that is Bharat
    Bharat, that is not (necessarily) India

    • @alani3992
      @alani3992 8 місяців тому

      Nepal & Lanka is also Bharat, so why not annex them.
      or call this just the "British States of Bharat".

    • @vivekthakkar793
      @vivekthakkar793 8 місяців тому +1

      @@alani3992if you lose a limb in an accident, hopefully you won’t change your name cause of that.

    • @alani3992
      @alani3992 8 місяців тому

      @@vivekthakkar793 The Delhi-state was not created on cultural basis.
      If it were so, Nepal & Lanka should have joined too

  • @sumanair9317
    @sumanair9317 8 місяців тому +2

    Why Rahul didn't conclude the topic as always!!?😅

  • @AshwinMaloo79
    @AshwinMaloo79 8 місяців тому +1

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