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  • @Slithy
    @Slithy 9 років тому +13

    "Gentle explosion" might just be one of the funniest sensible combinations of words that i've ever heard.

  • @therugburnz
    @therugburnz 2 роки тому

    How did I miss this one? I love the Deep Sky series. I enjoy all of Brady's Videos and Deep Sky series is of particular interest to me.

  • @ishmiel21
    @ishmiel21 9 років тому +2

    These are my favorite types of Deep Sky videos. Thanks.

  • @kentlofgren
    @kentlofgren 9 років тому +8

    2:12 "... why would it be pointing directly at Earth?". * cue eery music *

    • @jetpowered1
      @jetpowered1 9 років тому

      Because humans at this point in time and space are the pinnacle of universal heirarchy. We know everything, right? That's space 101 bro....
      Click humor button...now

    • @gamesbok
      @gamesbok 8 років тому +2

      Jetpowered1,
      It's not pointing at us. It's pointing at someone much more important behind us.

    • @schadenfreudebuddha
      @schadenfreudebuddha 7 років тому

      aliens are making a celestial "look behind you" joke?

  • @NikiHerl
    @NikiHerl 9 років тому +3

    I'm glad you talked about it possibly just being an statistical outlier at end. While it's definitely interesting to think about what mechanics could cause such a formation, it doesn't seem like that a big of a abnormality, in other words: looks a lot like random noise.

  • @drmoynihan
    @drmoynihan 9 років тому +1

    Thank you - continuing to enjoy your Messier Presentations.

  • @meridianherschel1618
    @meridianherschel1618 9 років тому

    FINALLY! Another Deep Sky Video. I really missed those.

  • @GuyNamedSean
    @GuyNamedSean 9 років тому +1

    I love getting on a new video quickly.

  • @Destro7000
    @Destro7000 9 років тому

    Glad to see Deep Sky Videos is back!

  • @supersavage123
    @supersavage123 9 років тому +1

    ahhhh finally :P iv been dying for another deep sky vid thanks Brady

  • @ArgoIo
    @ArgoIo 9 років тому +32

    Aliens? Definetly Aliens!

    • @HansenSWE
      @HansenSWE 9 років тому +4

      +Lorenz Zahn
      They have made a cropcircle in the star-cluster! This is getting rediculous. Their vandalism has gone too far! We need to draw a line in the sand..... and... well, I don't know what comes after. Somehow that always fixes all problems, like as if people are afraid of what comes next. We need to forbid the aliens and then we need an international scientific experiment to conclude what actually happens after the line is drawn in the sand... physically... chemically... vexillologically.

    • @zaferatakan270
      @zaferatakan270 9 років тому +1

      +Lorenz Zahn Thumbnail says it all.

  • @MrWinotu
    @MrWinotu 6 років тому +1

    Isn't it related to the situation where massive objects bend the light? It could be explanation why it is pointing directly into us. Possibly the stars in this cluster are quite massive?

  • @lSupernova426l
    @lSupernova426l 9 років тому +42

    You say that M26 is messy, ay?

    • @HansenSWE
      @HansenSWE 9 років тому +55

      +lSupernova426l It's Messier than others.

    • @prateekgupta2408
      @prateekgupta2408 3 роки тому

      This joke is so old

    • @rhoddryice5412
      @rhoddryice5412 3 роки тому

      @@prateekgupta2408 Not for this open cluster. It isn’t old.

  • @MrLewooz
    @MrLewooz 7 років тому +1

    what about a black hole In the open cluster pulling the stars slightly in by gravitational pull? is there a lil black hole in M26???

  • @rkpetry
    @rkpetry 9 років тому

    [05:30] If, the cluster formed from a flattish disk, the central stars will have formed from the contracting core-leaving a spherical clearing... Alternatively a very massive companion in co-orbit will clear a spherical shell....

  • @FTLNewsFeed
    @FTLNewsFeed 9 років тому +7

    When you live in a big enough universe, like the one we do, statistical flukes are bound to happen...

  • @MrAlpacabreeder
    @MrAlpacabreeder 5 років тому +1

    Could it be a form of thermal collapse we see in the center of dense clusters

  • @differous01
    @differous01 9 років тому

    If we were looking at something like the center of a galaxy we would expect strange orbits around a black body emitting X-rays north and south.
    James Cutty's paper (4:34 ff) appears to be limited (magnitude red, 15.3, blue, 17.4. ) to visible light.
    Are there any UV to X-ray photos of M26?

  • @zardzewialy
    @zardzewialy 9 років тому

    The fact that the circle showing the dark region is off a bit to upper left side is making me pull hair out of my head ... arrrrgh :D

  • @Esudao
    @Esudao 9 років тому +2

    audio feels kind of mushed on this video, am I the only one? I have to turn up treble all the way to be able to better understand what he's saying. thanks for the video!

  • @trevorWilkinson
    @trevorWilkinson 9 років тому +5

    couldn't it be like a lens distortion/warping effect? So some gas is in the way acting like a lens which puts all the stars looking closer together and the edge of the lens is distorted so it looks like there's empty space as all the light is pushed to either the outside or the inside of the lens? It would also mean that the gas wouldn't have to be around the star cluster, only that it was somewhere between us and the star cluster.

    • @CapScreenplay
      @CapScreenplay 9 років тому +3

      +trevor Wilkinson
      Gravitational lensing. I was wondering the same thing.

    • @ArgoIo
      @ArgoIo 9 років тому +2

      +CapScreenplay Not enough volumetric mass density. The individual stars are too far apart from each other to create that effect.

    • @therealstubot
      @therealstubot 9 років тому

      +quosmo1 It was my understanding that Prof. Merrifield was explaining how it couldn't be an interposing dust "bubble", and how the tell-tale sign of that would be an overall slight reduction of brightness at the center with a higher reduction at the edges of the bubble. I too thought it was a candidate for gravitational lensing, not of the stars in the cluster, but of an interposing object, but there would probably be significant distortion of the affected stars appearance.

    • @MrAlpacabreeder
      @MrAlpacabreeder 5 років тому

      This requires something massive enough to bend the light. Difficult to have something of such a mass between us and a cluster that is in our galaxy and isn’t directly detectable by the other gravity effects such as half the galaxy streaming towards it

  • @unvergebeneid
    @unvergebeneid 9 років тому +2

    Wait, some alien species went to the extreme lengths of rearranging all the stars in an open cluster to send a signal to the galaxy and you just go "meh, not worth my time ..."? Show some damn respect!

  • @SoaringMoon
    @SoaringMoon 9 років тому

    My hypothesis is that the gravitational pull of the star cluster is pulling in dust and gas from the surrounding area. Because the cluster has been there so long, I do believe that the absence of gas and dust is not allowing new stars in that area to form. This I would assume at some point was assisted by the original super nova explosion pushing away some of this material. Although this would not account for the absence of this kind of structure in other star clusters.

  • @facundovarela6813
    @facundovarela6813 9 років тому

    Can anybody tell me the cluster size? In light years. Thanks!

  • @MichaelClark-uw7ex
    @MichaelClark-uw7ex 8 років тому

    Could a "middleweight" black hole have enough gravitational influence to keep the stars in a confined volume?
    It would be interesting to see the orbits of the stars plotted out just to see if they are orbiting a "fixed" center of gravity or just orbiting randomly.

  • @BrunoRegno
    @BrunoRegno 9 років тому

    I think of a third option... could it be the result of an intervening gravitational lens? The edges of it could alter apparent star density creating the illusion of a cluster and a "nothing shell" making M86 an optical illusion.

  • @joel8510
    @joel8510 9 років тому

    hey mike wheres the striped jumper ?

  • @clintongryke6887
    @clintongryke6887 7 років тому

    How did Cuffy decide on the centre of the cluster for his calculations?

  • @jerryrhee7748
    @jerryrhee7748 8 років тому

    Reasons for analogy to circular allantoic core domain. That is, why 90um?

  • @andyellwood5944
    @andyellwood5944 9 років тому

    I love this channel, with a passion!!... But when are you gonna cover M87... I wanna know more about that humongous jet!! Thank you SO much for this channel (and your other channels, 60 Symbols in particular)

  • @Mekratrig
    @Mekratrig 6 років тому

    Hey Brady, is Professor Mike still making videos with you?

  • @eldestsucubus
    @eldestsucubus 9 років тому

    makes you think that maybe theres something there the stars are orbiting to keep it in a relatively neat sphere. im no astronomer but wouldn't there be a certain distance from a hypothetical object such as that where the gravity would no longer noticeably effect stars outside of this radius?

    • @TheRealSkeletor
      @TheRealSkeletor 9 років тому

      +eldestsucubus No. Gravitational attraction between any two bodies is calculated at an inverse square (directly proportional to the product of their masses, and inversely proportional to the square of their distance between each other). See here:
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law#Gravitation
      Long story short, gravity will always affect everything at any distance. It never hits zero.

    • @eldestsucubus
      @eldestsucubus 9 років тому +1

      +Skeletor Jopko alright cheers for clearing that up

  • @MartinHodgkins
    @MartinHodgkins 9 років тому +2

    Maybe it's just me but I really can't see any blank ring.

  • @shune84
    @shune84 9 років тому

    lol the professor with his hips on springs

  • @zanzibarland1
    @zanzibarland1 9 років тому

    It's not a very tidy cluster, but I've seen ones which are Messier

  • @NoLeadsEnt
    @NoLeadsEnt 9 років тому

    if he only watched the primer fields by martin lepoint. it would all come together like a well baked cookie shape..

  • @sebastianpeheim8851
    @sebastianpeheim8851 9 років тому

    Go to 6:24 !!

  • @BunnyRaptor
    @BunnyRaptor 7 років тому

    Watch aliens talk about the sun as just another boring star.

  • @ben10pa
    @ben10pa 9 років тому

    i have an astronomy question: are stars getting smaller? i think so because every time a star explodes, it makes a nebula in which a lot of stars form, so all the new stars are smaller than the "mother". This means these smaller stars may not be massive enough to explode and soon we will run out of nebulae and consequently run out of stars

    • @TheSara90
      @TheSara90 9 років тому

      +Benjamin P material (energy) in space is constant. if we were living in a constant(volume) universe we wouldnt be "running out of stars" since the energy of one star is preserved in one or the other form. problem is,that astronomers recently found , that our universe is expending(increasing its volume) yet the (visable)energy in it remains the same. it leades to the conclusion that we will end up in a frozen universe (coz any finate mass/energy in an infinitly big volume universe is negligible). anyway that is just one hyphotesis, since we dont know what is causing universe to expend and if this effect will eventually stop and reverse itself somehow.

    • @ben10pa
      @ben10pa 9 років тому

      TheSara90
      hello! i know energy+matter is constant, i suppose that because of entropy laws, that energy+matter is getting distributed more evenly on the universe, one effect of this being that the stars will only get smaller with time

    • @ronaldderooij1774
      @ronaldderooij1774 9 років тому +1

      +Benjamin P Yep they do get smaller. In the early universe they were gigantic (explaining the existance of very heavy elements like uranium f.e.). You could even go so far back that the whole universe actually was one big star (in a sense). Also the rate of star formation is going down rather quickly in the universe nowadays. Some say the universe is getting out of the star formation period now.

    • @ben10pa
      @ben10pa 9 років тому

      well we are lucky then we didn't exist millions of years in the future, a completely black sky is not fun

    • @BlackGateofMordor
      @BlackGateofMordor 9 років тому

      +Ronald de Rooij While there is evidence that in the early universe there were a few hypermassive stars, most stars of this era were smaller and this does not prevent massive stars from forming now either. The largest known star currently is UY Scuti, with a radius of 1708 solar radii, and there are plenty of massive stars like it.
      The entire universe has never been able to be described as a star. Stars fuse hydrogen, and the early universe did very little of that. In the earliest stages of the universe, atoms did not exist until it cooled sufficiently, and even then almost every single atom was a simply hydrogen. It is only after stars that most of the elements began to form.
      Heavy elements beyond iron are formed during supernovae, which still occur plentifully throughout the universe. The Stelliferous Era will last for 100 trillion years, which is admittedly not that long compared to the amount of time until the Dark Era (10^100 years) but it is still far far longer than our measly 13.8 billion years.
      +Benjamin P There won't be a completely black sky for trillions of years.

  • @VGAstudent
    @VGAstudent 5 років тому

    If you have a single star that was the source material for that cluster of stars, you can see that the stars in the middle, if not including a quasar, would likely include a white dwarf of some ancient past but more seriously; what would happen if two stars big enough to form white dwarf binary pairs do if they collided and splashed instead of reforming into a sphere, would it become diffuse as plasma eventually?

  • @pr1m3number5
    @pr1m3number5 9 років тому

    Einstein ring. That's why you have a gap. It's because the combined gravity of the star cluster is bending the direction of the light.

  • @mycount64
    @mycount64 6 років тому

    Spherical ummm there could be stars front and back not near the cluster while In the line of sight.

  • @lightsidemaster
    @lightsidemaster 9 років тому +7

    The Celestials and Infinite Rakatan Empire confirmed!

  • @ronbrideau8902
    @ronbrideau8902 5 років тому

    Gravitationally flat space would be my first guess.

  • @kaiobenedetti
    @kaiobenedetti 9 років тому

    couldnt that "sphere of nothingness" be an instable surface? A location where a body would fall into the sphere if any peturbation occurs. Looks like a super massive dynamic system problem.

  • @CorvaireWind
    @CorvaireWind 9 років тому

    It's caused by (what I like to call) "dark lensing" -- Some of the clusters/galaxies are close up, but there is a dark energy cluster beyond those causing a lens that make those clusters/galaxies beyond appear closer. The dark energy cluster also optically pushes edges apart making it appear empty (creating the ring.)
    This happens much more often then you would think, in theory, a large portion of what we see out there is much farther away (and older) then they appear. Much older then the theorized "big bang," which did happen, but only part of a larger process called "Grand Fission" which allows for many galaxies to be 10x older then the "big bang" would leave us to believe.
    ;O)-

    • @jdgrahamo
      @jdgrahamo 9 років тому

      +Corvaire Wind
      Allow me to be the first to congratulate you on your forthcoming "No Shit?" award :)

    • @CorvaireWind
      @CorvaireWind 9 років тому

      I won't get it until long after I'm dead, but thanks none the less ;O)-

  • @yaldabaoth2
    @yaldabaoth2 9 років тому

    I cannot believe that it is spherical! What's next? The moon is not a flat circle?!

  • @TheSara90
    @TheSara90 9 років тому +30

    i think its just a next door type III civilization using Dyson sphere, no big deal. We can go back to poluting earth, printing money and watching sitcoms like we do everyday.

    • @aserta
      @aserta 9 років тому

      +TheSara90 I doubt there's enough material in all those stars to make up a Dyson sphere that large. So no. Unless it's made from cosmic fairy dust, the most logical conclusion is drawn towards the end of this video. It's fluke. Had there been more that presented the exact same pattern, i'd be interested in it.

    • @TheSara90
      @TheSara90 9 років тому +12

      lol , did u actually take my comment seriously guys? gj

    • @hendrikhendrikson2941
      @hendrikhendrikson2941 9 років тому

      +TheSara90 *drool*

    • @HansenSWE
      @HansenSWE 9 років тому

      +hendik hendrik
      Your argument seems to be..... water-tight.

    • @ozdergekko
      @ozdergekko 9 років тому

      +TheSara90 exactly what i wanted to write :-)

  • @ozdergekko
    @ozdergekko 7 років тому

    I see two more circular regions of relative emptiness further out of the cluster. Anyone else?

  • @dandubs433
    @dandubs433 9 років тому

    @ 3:11, I've called that shape, the shape of the scalable Universe. It's the shape of supernovae, quasars, whatever this is and the probability pattern of electrons in the df shell on the z-axis. Scalabal Universe.

  • @netherworld4467
    @netherworld4467 3 роки тому +1

    Underwear = blunder wear= thunder wear=wonder wear

  • @bobsmith-ov3kn
    @bobsmith-ov3kn 7 років тому

    there's no empty circle there... there are stars all through the circle

  • @PyrrhoVonHyperborea
    @PyrrhoVonHyperborea 8 років тому +1

    couldn't a bunch of black holes be responsible for an effect like that, if they orbit the cluster in exactly that distance, flinging out any stars that where previously there? - or is that ruled out because the cluster is too young? - or because of the proposed effect that all black holes are supposed to "sink to the middle" (well - even if: that takes time, right?!) of their respective cluster?

  • @stuntdogs
    @stuntdogs 9 років тому

    What is with that turtleneck professor?

  • @mick_hyde
    @mick_hyde 9 років тому +1

    Atlas of Creation!! really?

    • @FTLNewsFeed
      @FTLNewsFeed 9 років тому +1

      +Mick Hyde I'm guessing you haven't see the video where he explains why he has it?

    • @mick_hyde
      @mick_hyde 9 років тому

      No.

    • @mick_hyde
      @mick_hyde 9 років тому

      +FTLNewsFeed got a link?

    • @FTLNewsFeed
      @FTLNewsFeed 9 років тому +1

      Mick Hyde watch?v=Dylv1EiMejI or UA-cam search "deepsky atlas of creation"

    • @mick_hyde
      @mick_hyde 9 років тому

      +FTLNewsFeed Many thanks for that. Funnily enough, I own the book as well. Bought it for 10p from a National Trust secondhand shop. Didn't realise what it was until I got it home. Fossil pictures are stunning though.

  • @joshhaver152
    @joshhaver152 8 років тому +1

    It's a lens.

  • @mariusbogdanrujoiu9191
    @mariusbogdanrujoiu9191 9 років тому

    If you look carefully you can see tweety somewhere to the right, defined by an edge of nothingness.

  • @Ilestun
    @Ilestun 9 років тому

    it's just a statistical possibility, universe is big, next time it won't be a cylinder but just any random form.

  • @theskip1
    @theskip1 5 років тому

    a ring of dark matter ? or remains of the original dust cloud from which the stars formed ?

  • @passthebutterrobot2600
    @passthebutterrobot2600 6 років тому

    Sounds like it's shrunk a bit & left a gap

  • @ruben307
    @ruben307 7 років тому

    Why couldn't just the obscuring material be behind the cluster? Wouldnt that also cause a ring of nothingness.

  • @sjnm4944
    @sjnm4944 9 років тому

    PALPATINE'S BEHIND IT ALL!!!

  • @Diggnuts
    @Diggnuts 9 років тому

    The atlas of creation? Surely not? Yahya? Why... ? Why is that there? Debunking??? Comedy shelf?? Wha... Why>?

    • @FTLNewsFeed
      @FTLNewsFeed 9 років тому +1

      +Diggnuts He has a video explaining it... UA-cam search: "deepsky atlas of creation" should be the first result.

  • @GIKAS123
    @GIKAS123 9 років тому

    I LOVE astronomy...

  • @gigicaly
    @gigicaly 9 років тому

    so its a black hole attracting nearby stars ...

  • @DanielDogeanu
    @DanielDogeanu 9 років тому

    Maybe it's because of the gravity of the entire cluster.

    • @TheRealSkeletor
      @TheRealSkeletor 9 років тому +3

      +Daniel Dogeanu That's... not how gravity works.

    • @danilooliveira6580
      @danilooliveira6580 9 років тому

      +Skeletor Jopko not really, all the stars in the cluster orbit a barycenter, where the center of mass of the entire cluster is located, and consequently the direction of the pull of gravity... its a really unstable barycenter, and its probably flying around like crazy, but if you throw something at the vicinity of the cluster, its trajectory will be deflected by the pull of the cluster.
      I thought the same thing as Daniel at first, that it was just some starts orbiting the cluster, but there is no explanation as to why it would form naturally, unless its just a mathematical fluke as prof. Mike Merrifield said.

  • @DrogoBaggins987
    @DrogoBaggins987 7 років тому +1

    Cosmic bowling made the hole? Yes, cosmic bowling by a very advanced very bored bunch of happy go lucky aliens.

  • @bruinflight
    @bruinflight 3 роки тому

    BEES?!?!?!?!?!?

  • @skullduggery1096
    @skullduggery1096 7 років тому

    I feel like a sphere of nothingness.Where can I get one?

  • @davidwilkie9551
    @davidwilkie9551 6 років тому

    Observation

  • @xxDrain
    @xxDrain 9 років тому

    I don't see it >.

  • @windownight
    @windownight 7 років тому

    So, how did you get into sociology?

  • @coolbionicle
    @coolbionicle 6 років тому +1

    I say its a gravity well. from what? no idea.

    • @jsmit9063
      @jsmit9063 6 років тому +1

      Angel Gonzalez that's what I was thinking, couldn't there be just some black holes there drawing everything around it inward?

    • @coolbionicle
      @coolbionicle 6 років тому

      Jonathan Smit Actually I was thinking something more along the lines of there not being any globular cluster at all. just a particularly populated patch of stars sitting behind a strong gravity well acting like a lens and creating the illusion of there being a globular cluster within a dark ring.

  • @MrKorrazonCold
    @MrKorrazonCold 8 років тому

    If only you knew what dark matter actually is. . ...

    • @michellem6457
      @michellem6457 8 років тому

      *we

    • @MrKorrazonCold
      @MrKorrazonCold 8 років тому

      Tap the side of a round bucket of water.. . .Because everything is made of just Two Spherical Sine Wavefronts Compressing 3D Wave Centres of Energy +1=0 now -1 de-compressing Two Opposing Spiral Vortices.. . .From Virtual Pair's of Plasma, to Gases, Liquids, and Solid Fibonacci Fractals.. . .Only difference is their 3D Wave Centres Time Dilating Rate of Vibration, or Volume now at the centre of their Own 3D centred ref-frames within the One Infinite Universe.. . .As objects free fall towards the greatest energy compression Antimatter is just the opposite phase, or Vector Imploding Energy Compression +1=0 now -1 de-compressing momentum forming the Mass and Acceleration equivalence principle F=ma.. . .Now space is a division of Solidity into entropy as time unfolds C2 the second law of thermodynamics.. . .But also as objects free fall E2 will equal a multiplication of Volume +1=0 now at the expense of gravitational potential -1.. . .E2=M2 C4+P2 C2.. . . Time is inverse multiplying energy compression +1=0 now -1 dividing expansion like frequency and wavelength.. . .Gravitation is an equal and opposite reaction from the continuous stimulated emissions as time unfolds C2 into the future individual light spheres super impose as their crests and troughs become in phase (their space time line symmetries will synchronize) or amplify by compressing the wave amplitude +1=0 now -1 the shorter the expanding spiral wavelengths dividing acceleration away from their source's in unison.. . .Therefore is no dark matter.. . . In other words as the positive surface of their negative expanding light spheres increases with the square of their surrounding radiuses ((When their light spheres come together)) +1=0 now -1 the strength of the gravitational field transverses Q inversely proportional to the square of the distance from the source's of that constant expanding light sphere relative to the perspective of an outside observer.. . .Because its impossible to achieve absolute zero Kelvin, or zero pressure Visible light is just another added pressure condition to a wave medium that's already there.. . .

    • @ErgoCogita
      @ErgoCogita 8 років тому +2

      +Seamless Robe Word soup. Weak sauce.

    • @MrKorrazonCold
      @MrKorrazonCold 8 років тому

      How about Vibrating Sine Wavefronts of Energy?

    • @otterwesen
      @otterwesen 8 років тому

      no.

  • @NoNamium
    @NoNamium 7 років тому

    Black hole in front of the stars creating gravitational lensing?

  • @kpiol1996
    @kpiol1996 9 років тому +3

    dark matter / dark energy

    • @natepetersen1508
      @natepetersen1508 9 років тому +1

      +////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
      Dark Matter and dark Energy only seems to apply on galactic scales.This is much too small for that to be a factor, although who knows, maybe. It's just very unlikely that it would apply in this situation.

    • @cbhaessig
      @cbhaessig 6 років тому

      666 as you are 666 you should know

  • @owenpeter3
    @owenpeter3 8 років тому +5

    Prof Merrifield can't half talk quickly (american style). I have to go back over what he has said and play it again to get it all.

    • @cbhaessig
      @cbhaessig 6 років тому

      Gwilym ap Iorwerth whatever it takes to get all what we are learning so many new things