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You got my account falsely banned. I barely get time to play so I mostly camp wildy and was lumped in with these bots... What are you going to do to make it right to me? What are you going to do able the others you have gotten falsely banned with your "good intentions" seeing how you get paid for it I wonder if you care.
Makes way more sense to why I couldnt get past 11 laps on wilderness agility for three full days. Makes PKers sweat for a 10K drop since you cant even get enough laps for any meaningful loot
It's actually nuts how dickish they are. They kill to kill, not for loot. So if you could tank damage for 30 min and the PKer knew he wouldn't get shit, I bet he would still kill you just by because why not be a dick..
I just went for 140 laps and got 2.5m without being killed right after I went for 80 and got 1m without being killed, just need to do it during the right time of day.
True, tbh maybe soon end of wildy being pvp zone. they might just make it like rs3 and remove pvp from wildy one day and just enable dueling other players anywhere in game. pvp just keeps getting worse and worse for legit players.
@@apexvulture5415 it sucks because the wilderness is cool, but the degenerates ruin it for everyone else. i like the idea of being able to be attacked randomly but not when they have the fucking eye of sauron following me.
@@apexvulture5415a man can dream.. I don’t even have mage arena one done cause I can’t do the wildy. I’m too bad, I just get killed 24/7😂. My only complaint is that YOU’RE forced into the wilderness if you wanna progress your account. I’m not mad it exists, I just don’t like how you gotta go into for certain things and you have to do those things if you wanna progress your account. It’s not becoming to new players at all. It’s discouraging and on top of that ofc the pker killing you has like a 50% to be an uber dick too 😂 if you don’t wanna risk your gear , or fight other players you shouldn’t have to imo.
Unless you have the hard diaries (so no tele delay) and a seed pod, the wilderness is already super favorable for PK’ers (this is assuming you’re not staring at your screen and have Wilderness Player Alarm on). With that said, this UAV completely breaks the Wilderness and countermeasures should be taken to combat this by Jagex. The story is the same as always, though. Take minimal risk, and nothing you aren’t willing to lose. You should just blend in.
I know it’s anecdotal, and maybe even a rare case, but I have never actually been chased or killed in the wildy when only bringing the essentials to run through. Though to be fair, I mainly play I on mu hcim and only go into the wildy for clue scrolls anymore.
The wilderness is very easy to escape in nowadays idk what on earth you think is so favourable for pkers. The only thing you need to do to escape in 90% of situations is freeze somebody as a freeze wares off on you then run behind something or dd on the pker and logout. You couldn't of escaped that easily 2+ years ago.
@@lfcmike12 where to begin? - Teleport delay - Can’t teleport with anything other than a seed pod (locked behind difficult quest) outside of Lvl20 Wildy - Tele block spells - Most weapons have a bigger damage multiplier when used on other players - Wildy UAV (for however long it lasts) I’m sure there’s more documented advantages that PK’ers have. It’s easier than it’s ever been. Like I said, if you sit there and stare at your screen and use Wildy Player Alarm and have a seed pod, you can usually get away.
@@OhioSpurs But again, all of that is easily countered by using a level 79 normal spell, entangle. You get attacked, wait until the active freeze timer goes to about 2-3 seconds and entangle the person hitting you, you run on top of them and click logout repeatedly until you're at the login screen. Escaped. That is a free exit against 90% of pkers lol
If Jagex removed all the - at least obvious - bots (like the ones doing the same tasks in the same way with the same gear and the same insta-tele) I can't imagine how much more fun this game would be.
@@voldemort008 this video went up 12 hours ago and has over 50k views. SirPugger botting views or has 5x the osrs playerbase watching his uploads right away somehow? Up to you to figure it out please
@@fujsterobvious bots exist for no reason other than to pad Jagex's wallet. Take Abyss bots for example. You can attack one and it'll teleport. 15 seconds later it's back and tries again. This will go on until you give up. A normal, real player wouldn't keep wasting time and effort. At the very least they'd world hop. Or the cluster of bots that log off the moment you enter the zone. Take the blast furnace bots pumping away. They're all level 35 with nearly maxed out strength levels. The moment you enter the blast furnace they all switch worlds. All of them. Then there's the steel armor high alch'ing bots in the wilderness. All day long they run unchallenged. One low level account logs in, verifies it's safe, and then another one logs in to grab the armor and high alch. Jagex will never remove the bots, but there are thousands of very obvious bots that go unchallenged.
The problem is both money and legality. Countries aren’t going to allow international litigation against a citizen over a video game, without a big pile of cash. If jagex were to implement harsher measures when they find a botter, such as something that would invade their system in return, would get jagex shut down in an instant. You also have services like Discord literally making all this possible. They provide the community hub for all the cheating activity at this point.
I’ve known something like this existed for a long time. I’ve spent 100s of hours in the wildy killing revenants and bosses. You can do an activity with no risk and you barely get bothered for hours on end. As soon as you do the same activity but bring some kind of decent risk, a pker will find you almost instantly. This thing is not new, I’ve suspected this for many years. Now I know my instincts were not wrong lol
Yeah. The other day i got pked doing one lap of the agility course for the wildy diary. No one saw me go there, no one was even near me but for some reason as soon i crossed the first obstacle, like 10 pkers popped into existence. I knew it was fishy
Agreed this ain't new about 7 months ago I was killing revs just ith a RCB and no gear never saw anyone barley so wen suited up for faster kills after I got in caves few minutes later a max came killed me
Because as much as they pretend to not like bots, their entire business model is extremely reliant on them. They are a huge part of runescape's economy, they artifically inflate the player count, and increase memberships bought by the tens of thousands per month.
This stuff already existed in private discords, the guy who made this website has just made it available for people who aren't in communities that already were doing the same thing.
I actually thought this live map would've been possible years ago. Surprised it didnt appear sooner, however I never expected it to be available to all. Imagine this guy kept it to himself or a few people who made money from it.
People have had scout bots for ages. It's usually contained to discord for pvp clans however. The bots in the discord would ping a channel if they scouted someone with a certain amount of risk.
I know this website. I was MINDBLOWN when I saw it. Like.. this is CRAZY!!! You can NOT do anything in the wild without being instantly found and attacked.
Had to stop and comment at :10 in. Now, I normally don't give two shats about bots as far as general gameplay goes, hot take, but I think they can occasionally be beneficial to the real playerbase as a whole in certain scenarios. i.e. Bots being prioritized by pkers at revs or lighting the incense at altars, etc. This is simply too much; it's malicious, offers ridiculously unfair advantages, but the worst part is how much it targets and preys upon your average player. This is the type of stuff that kills mmorpgs. At the very least, if one is going to create an unfair advantage for themselves with their own code/software that they wrote/designed, they should probably keep it a closely guarded secret. This is one way to get the whitehats to turn into greyhats. You dont want greyhats investigating your ethically questionable antics, you might entice them to become blackhats... Be careful out there, folks.😮💨😒✌🏾 P.S. On a side note, this is a blatant violation of the rules we all agreed to adhere to when we decided we wanted to play this game. Cheaters gon' cheat though.. All we can do, imho, is create counter measures that will sus out either the people consistently using this with ill intent or the actual developer of this catastrophe of a program. One person can literally ruin it for everyone including themselves..
Uuuggghhh... I'm so frustrated by the audacity of this all. Mess got me going full artistic over here.😡 Here we go: 49 Total Chunks in wildy ~22,500 tiles per chunk Yields: ~1,102,500 total tiles in wildy Generic Draw Distance of 111 tiles dividing 1 one chunk 'equally' yields ~203 equidistant points. 203 equidistant points across 49 chunks yield a total that is just shy of 10,000 individual tiles needed to have a constant view of the entire wilderness in any 1 given world. Assuming there are 148 worlds accessible for vanilla osrs gameplay means that one would have to have ~1.5 million individual points of contact in order to constantly view the wildy as a whole. This is impossible in practice, right?
I could see someone releasing an unofficial plugin for runelite so any malicious user could contribute while they PK. They would then be virtually impossible to identify since they aren't bots, but rather just normal scouts.
Unless Jagex look at the map and identify from the radius of reported users who the data is coming from. If everyone within 30 tiles of Bob is on the site it might be Bob etc.
@@thegrassgenieMoney or in-game rewards. Imagine if they log all your sightings then pay you an escalating reward every 1000 players you find. Or just every hour you spend in the wild
@@thegrassgenieI presume the plugin would be designed to report the location of players you see, rather than reporting your own location. Just turning live players into scouts instead of using bots.
honestly, even without the amount of bad things the site is doing, scout bots are still a huge problem. giving everybody access to something like this is probably a good thing because it should (SHOULD) encourage jamflex to start going hard on banning scout bots, as seemingly scout bots have taken longer and been more difficult to ban then the bots doing the activities being scouted for. this site just gives everybody access to the same thing cheaters have always had, and has always sucked. yes in a worse way, but also we need to focus on how bad of an issue all of this is.
Now it is public. Before, it was just private exploit, there were already things like that. The problem is of game design, it costs a free memb trial bot to scout, that is nothing.
the mystery was he didnt know why he was getting that amount of GP. he figured out that it was glories turning into gold, did you not watch the same video as me?
No wonder Everytime I’m farming rev caves, there’s always someone after me, I even delete all my friends because I thought they were giving out my world location, I have reported multiple bots in rev caves and Jagex hasn’t done anything about them, I see them everyday and now there’s a UAV, what’s next this is crazy
Plot twist we already know: jagex controls the largest share of bot and gold farms. It wouldn't be a "profitable" possibility if it wasn't possible to be done.
RuneScape players when it comes to just playing the game and having fun : 🤢🤮🤬 RuneScape players when it comes to ruining every aspect of the game as much as possible for themselves and everyone around them : 😍🥰😋
If anyone has never tried pking, I really suggest trying it with cheap gear to learn! I started learning from scratch a week ago and it's the most fun I've ever had in RS
They should/could introduce low risk worlds. Would save a bit of headache losing to max players and focusing more on fun. And provide a new entry into gradually higer risk and into the pker population.
the venezuelans are getting smarter. they set up accounts to specifically set off the scout bots and then they post up with their gang and wait for pkers to come and try to hit the lure account
That level of botting and "Player Tracking/Wilderness Manipulation" is actually enough to be seen as a cyber attack, or extreme malicious behavior. In short the dude running it all can very easily be sued by literally every country effected by it, especially the UK where Runescape HQ is. The UK as is has some of the most strict cyber-crime prevention laws in the world, so doing something like this is absolutely foolish levels of griefing.
They should add this into the game but make it something you have to toggle on for people who WANT to find fights in the wilderness, it would potentially help people find fights more often and against people who they could actually fight against knowing their gear and stuff but then people would probably just find some way to turn it into old duel arena and use it for staking. Idk maybe they could do some kind of test with it, I'd be interested in it if you could set it to show your whole inventory and stuff too for people who are really confident and WANT to risk stuff guess you'd have to see how many people would even use it though
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the massive bot farm in soul wars that is still currently ongoing. I’m sure you’re doing a video on it or something because I’ve never seen that many bots in one place
This kind of thing is why I hate _all_ PKers except those that limit themselves exclusively to bots. Look at this website and tell me PKers aren't toxic trolls - if you can honestly and legitimately make that claim with this evidence, I'll take whatever you're smoking. Days like today, I'm extra thankful to be an RS3 player. (That said, do very much enjoy your botbusting content and have for some time, keep up the good work!)
I fucking said this was happening as a guess I seen so many scout bots something had to be going on and the wildy agility course hasnt been this active in ages and the timing between bot and log ins just makes sense now ha.
It's funny PKers making this, surely they realise this is only driving more people out of the wilderness. And yet the cry that Wildy is dead, you literally killed it yourselves.
I once escaped from a guy 5 different times in a row by freezing and logging, As soon as I hopped and tried to run he was in and attacked almost instantly Glad I know why now… I always thought those scouts were actual alts lmao
Jagex hasn’t even responded to you in months??? Must need to up our membership prices again to get a support team or contact method of any kind… surely they’ll give us that next time, right? Surely… 😢
"Jagex haven't responded in months" This pains me to hear. Your work has always been important for cleaning up the game. Anyone know what happened here?
I once escaped from a guy 5 different times in a row by freezing and logging, As soon as I hopped and tried to run he was in and attacked almost instantly Glad I know why now… I always thought those scouts were actual alts lmao Also, a massive % of this game is bots and it’s most likely keeping the game alive (50-70% imo)
Jagex should just ban anyone who they suspect using the site to scout. Give them a mild ban at first and then move to perma if they notice that they repeatedly just happen to show up close to a scout
I grew up in the wilderness. I refuse to believe that because everyone is a user and there is no preferential treatment because that create too much power
Maybe I'm just lucky or it's not as bad as it sounds. I spent the past weekend grinding over 5M XP solely in the wilderness and only encountered 5-6 pkers the entire time. Never died. The last 200k xp it was suspicious though. I was in a 500s world and a pker logged in, I teled, scrolled up, logged into a completely random 300s world and with zero delay the same pker logged into my world immediately. I teled again and he gave up. I was always risking 2-5m so probably a prime target compared to other low risks. Still wasn't an issue. Just set the player alarm and somewhat pay attention. Either way, 5-6 pkers in ~30 hours was actually below average compared to most weekends.
This is actually insane. You should look into the shitbag pker that camps at GDZ/annakarl teleport. He uses 5 pking bots that are scripted to just use black salamanders and auto pray. While he is there actually "pking" on his main "sheikh". But he uses ahk on that account too so is it even pking or just watching a pking video? He is in the "inflection / IF" clan. Basically the new RoT, alot of rot are in this if clan if they arent back in the rot rebuild cc. Its been a problem for months now, me and my clan will do wildy bosses and this guy scouts the worlds. Then he will camp the pk bots at GDZ so they can kill people returning to wildy bosses. And if you fight them and the main account "Sheikh" then he calls his clan and usually a few more people show to help. But we only fought them a few times. These bots are poorly scripted though bcuz if you just run outside of the altar area that restores prayer the bots will just run back to altar middle and afk. Even if your attacking them out of their distance lol Also check out the 3m per hour bot farm i been killing the last 2 weeks. East green dragons 21 wilderness. Almost every world has 2-6 bots level 60-115 most of them are level 80-90. If you just get a tb on them with fire tome and fire surge you can 2 hit most of them. Once they get tbd they jist stand there teying to teleport. Some of them might try to melee you but i just pray melee. I got 1.1k dragon bones in just under an hour, was like 52 minutes. 5 loot keys takes not even 5 minutes lol aaverage key is 50-150k. Some are more like 200k , but if you kill them after a loot run you only get like 10-30k lol easy money though
damn, if OSRS mods gave you permission to Permaband bots for some Merch and an in game Title with free membership you would help the community a lot with your Investigating skills.
you have no clue how many bot farms are out there with over 2k total. i'm in a disc from a long forgotten provider. this was a top dog back in the day then the dev ceased the service to work on an improved project. now this top dog is back but since the masses went some where else no one talks about it. due to jagex's current philosophy on anticheats this software will never be detected. doesn't mean accs won't and haven't been caught though.
The wilderness is going to turn into a "Please accept my duel request" just to PK. I hope they get rid of PKing in general. I want my fucking shovels back
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NOOOOOOOO YOU JUST CANT RUIN MY HECKIN VIDEO GAMERINO BECAUSE YOU JUST CANT OKAY!?
What a scared little child mad at somebody over a videogame
Lol he only posts when he gets a sponsor... don't fund the sponsors
You got my account falsely banned. I barely get time to play so I mostly camp wildy and was lumped in with these bots... What are you going to do to make it right to me? What are you going to do able the others you have gotten falsely banned with your "good intentions" seeing how you get paid for it I wonder if you care.
This will drive the last few remaining non-pkers from the wilderness.
I got killed on my second boss attempt ever and I'm now skipping all boss slayer tasks.
Or I think non pkrs will use this to try and hide and skate by which might do the exact opposite
Jagex will do two things : Jack & shit.
unless its time to up the subscription price again
“Hey we banned a few bots competitively locking you out of progression, I’d say we deserve an extra $2/mo, right guys?”
LOL
@mendelson6052 l0l just gear up and anti pk back. No one's locking you out of anything your just to scared to go get it.
Ahaha it’s so true, and they don’t do it to help the game, but force the bot owners to re-buy membership at a higher price LOL
Makes way more sense to why I couldnt get past 11 laps on wilderness agility for three full days. Makes PKers sweat for a 10K drop since you cant even get enough laps for any meaningful loot
It's actually nuts how dickish they are. They kill to kill, not for loot. So if you could tank damage for 30 min and the PKer knew he wouldn't get shit, I bet he would still kill you just by because why not be a dick..
Get the fuck out of wild agility then kid. Nobodys gonna come kill you for 10k bud, theres people who just clear that area on habit. You aint special.
I just went for 140 laps and got 2.5m without being killed right after I went for 80 and got 1m without being killed, just need to do it during the right time of day.
they get your 150k deposit
@ not when you walk out of the agility course
“Don’t use it so it isn’t abused by everyone” *puts out video showcasing this video to his 350k+ viewers*
Probably trying to blow it up so it gets dealt with without him getting the credit for it so malicious people don't attack him
Better to get attention on it now and get it down
Boohoo, 360k people are trying to kill me instead of 10k. Not like it matters lol.
>not realising that this channel's business model is profiting off of botting
Puts out video showcasing this video about the video that this video is referencing.
Damn Jagex and the pugster had a falling out. Left his ass on read for a couple months. 😂😂😂
the falling out is that jagex doesn't want to actually ban bots, they make so much cash through bonds via bots alone.
But i got a 19 day mute this morning for trying to stop someone from self harming at ge last night.
Wild @@surfingbilly9654
@@surfingbilly9654If they’d ban all the bots people would know how badly the game is actually dying.
@@voldemort008seems like there’s a tonne of players still
@@surfingbilly9654 Afriend posted a video on this website, and Mod Ash was banning the scout bots in the video.
At this point just close out the wilderness this shit is a mess
Enemy UAV inbound!
Man, no wonder my lava dragons task was impossible. Guess that's the end of wildy slayer for me.
True, tbh maybe soon end of wildy being pvp zone. they might just make it like rs3 and remove pvp from wildy one day and just enable dueling other players anywhere in game. pvp just keeps getting worse and worse for legit players.
@@apexvulture5415 it sucks because the wilderness is cool, but the degenerates ruin it for everyone else. i like the idea of being able to be attacked randomly but not when they have the fucking eye of sauron following me.
@@apexvulture5415As much as I hate to admit it, you’re probably right.
@@apexvulture5415They could disable world hopping for anyone Skulled. That would go a long way.
@@apexvulture5415a man can dream.. I don’t even have mage arena one done cause I can’t do the wildy. I’m too bad, I just get killed 24/7😂. My only complaint is that YOU’RE forced into the wilderness if you wanna progress your account. I’m not mad it exists, I just don’t like how you gotta go into for certain things and you have to do those things if you wanna progress your account. It’s not becoming to new players at all. It’s discouraging and on top of that ofc the pker killing you has like a 50% to be an uber dick too 😂 if you don’t wanna risk your gear , or fight other players you shouldn’t have to imo.
Unless you have the hard diaries (so no tele delay) and a seed pod, the wilderness is already super favorable for PK’ers (this is assuming you’re not staring at your screen and have Wilderness Player Alarm on).
With that said, this UAV completely breaks the Wilderness and countermeasures should be taken to combat this by Jagex.
The story is the same as always, though. Take minimal risk, and nothing you aren’t willing to lose. You should just blend in.
I know it’s anecdotal, and maybe even a rare case, but I have never actually been chased or killed in the wildy when only bringing the essentials to run through. Though to be fair, I mainly play I on mu hcim and only go into the wildy for clue scrolls anymore.
@@jacobbecklehimer7781 Wait til you need Voidwaker :)
The wilderness is very easy to escape in nowadays idk what on earth you think is so favourable for pkers. The only thing you need to do to escape in 90% of situations is freeze somebody as a freeze wares off on you then run behind something or dd on the pker and logout. You couldn't of escaped that easily 2+ years ago.
@@lfcmike12 where to begin?
- Teleport delay
- Can’t teleport with anything other than a seed pod (locked behind difficult quest) outside of Lvl20 Wildy
- Tele block spells
- Most weapons have a bigger damage multiplier when used on other players
- Wildy UAV (for however long it lasts)
I’m sure there’s more documented advantages that PK’ers have. It’s easier than it’s ever been. Like I said, if you sit there and stare at your screen and use Wildy Player Alarm and have a seed pod, you can usually get away.
@@OhioSpurs But again, all of that is easily countered by using a level 79 normal spell, entangle. You get attacked, wait until the active freeze timer goes to about 2-3 seconds and entangle the person hitting you, you run on top of them and click logout repeatedly until you're at the login screen. Escaped. That is a free exit against 90% of pkers lol
If Jagex removed all the - at least obvious - bots (like the ones doing the same tasks in the same way with the same gear and the same insta-tele) I can't imagine how much more fun this game would be.
not how bots work tbf. sounds simple but it isnt
For all 10k people left playing lol.
@@voldemort008 this video went up 12 hours ago and has over 50k views. SirPugger botting views or has 5x the osrs playerbase watching his uploads right away somehow? Up to you to figure it out please
@@fujsterobvious bots exist for no reason other than to pad Jagex's wallet.
Take Abyss bots for example.
You can attack one and it'll teleport. 15 seconds later it's back and tries again. This will go on until you give up.
A normal, real player wouldn't keep wasting time and effort. At the very least they'd world hop.
Or the cluster of bots that log off the moment you enter the zone.
Take the blast furnace bots pumping away. They're all level 35 with nearly maxed out strength levels. The moment you enter the blast furnace they all switch worlds.
All of them.
Then there's the steel armor high alch'ing bots in the wilderness. All day long they run unchallenged. One low level account logs in, verifies it's safe, and then another one logs in to grab the armor and high alch.
Jagex will never remove the bots, but there are thousands of very obvious bots that go unchallenged.
The problem is both money and legality. Countries aren’t going to allow international litigation against a citizen over a video game, without a big pile of cash.
If jagex were to implement harsher measures when they find a botter, such as something that would invade their system in return, would get jagex shut down in an instant.
You also have services like Discord literally making all this possible. They provide the community hub for all the cheating activity at this point.
I’ve known something like this existed for a long time. I’ve spent 100s of hours in the wildy killing revenants and bosses. You can do an activity with no risk and you barely get bothered for hours on end. As soon as you do the same activity but bring some kind of decent risk, a pker will find you almost instantly. This thing is not new, I’ve suspected this for many years. Now I know my instincts were not wrong lol
Yeah. The other day i got pked doing one lap of the agility course for the wildy diary. No one saw me go there, no one was even near me but for some reason as soon i crossed the first obstacle, like 10 pkers popped into existence. I knew it was fishy
Agreed this ain't new about 7 months ago I was killing revs just ith a RCB and no gear never saw anyone barley so wen suited up for faster kills after I got in caves few minutes later a max came killed me
it has been this way for a few years indeed
@@rampart5631 and the PK'ers are bots too
2 can play at this game. I go revs with max gear and just use an auto log bot. No risk for me at all… they hop I log
Why did Jamflex stop responding to you? You've been super helpful for years basically doing their work for them
Because as much as they pretend to not like bots, their entire business model is extremely reliant on them. They are a huge part of runescape's economy, they artifically inflate the player count, and increase memberships bought by the tens of thousands per month.
@@LazyEngineerEliteyup, Jagex knows the game dies without bots
Very fishy Jagex hasn't responded in months.. nice video man
Usual Jagex being Jagex. Won't deal with real game issues.
Weren't they sold to a new company? If so the new company may not have ties or procedures to deal with pugger
Nothing fishy about that, it's not a problem concerning ironclowns or content creators so in their eyes there is no problem
@@TrendK1llerwhy do ironmen bother you so much? Is it because deep down you know they are playing a superior game mode?
@@benjaminr8229 being a nerd in your 30s makes you superior? holy copium lmao
This stuff already existed in private discords, the guy who made this website has just made it available for people who aren't in communities that already were doing the same thing.
Yeah, people like wk28e9ti3n have been running around for years. Just gotta evade wildy content, hit the pub ans wait for all this to blow over.
@@zefzima for sure, i don't even go to the wildy unless I'm doing a clue and i only ever take a spade. Never lose anything.
Yeah this is totally okay
I have noticed the bots hopping for a split second in the wildy for years now. Definitely not new, just public now.
@@Luluehno it didn’t.
I actually thought this live map would've been possible years ago. Surprised it didnt appear sooner, however I never expected it to be available to all. Imagine this guy kept it to himself or a few people who made money from it.
People have had scout bots for ages. It's usually contained to discord for pvp clans however. The bots in the discord would ping a channel if they scouted someone with a certain amount of risk.
it has been around, just not publicly
5:00 recommend not using this 💀 right after he advertises the website to 350k subs
you can now sell members items on non-member worlds
"Jagex hasn't responded to me in months"
That's a fat bummer, man :(
I know this website. I was MINDBLOWN when I saw it. Like.. this is CRAZY!!! You can NOT do anything in the wild without being instantly found and attacked.
What is the website? 😮
link?
@@pgarza47 Nice try fed
And pkers wonder why your average player hates pvp/pking and the wilderness, prompting them to vote no to pvp polls and to avoid going there.
7:50 when Jagex is too busy developing a seasonal game mode to care about bots destroying the main game lol...
It’s bs
Facts
Had to stop and comment at :10 in. Now, I normally don't give two shats about bots as far as general gameplay goes, hot take, but I think they can occasionally be beneficial to the real playerbase as a whole in certain scenarios. i.e. Bots being prioritized by pkers at revs or lighting the incense at altars, etc.
This is simply too much; it's malicious, offers ridiculously unfair advantages, but the worst part is how much it targets and preys upon your average player. This is the type of stuff that kills mmorpgs. At the very least, if one is going to create an unfair advantage for themselves with their own code/software that they wrote/designed, they should probably keep it a closely guarded secret. This is one way to get the whitehats to turn into greyhats. You dont want greyhats investigating your ethically questionable antics, you might entice them to become blackhats... Be careful out there, folks.😮💨😒✌🏾
P.S. On a side note, this is a blatant violation of the rules we all agreed to adhere to when we decided we wanted to play this game. Cheaters gon' cheat though.. All we can do, imho, is create counter measures that will sus out either the people consistently using this with ill intent or the actual developer of this catastrophe of a program. One person can literally ruin it for everyone including themselves..
Uuuggghhh... I'm so frustrated by the audacity of this all. Mess got me going full artistic over here.😡
Here we go:
49 Total Chunks in wildy
~22,500 tiles per chunk
Yields: ~1,102,500 total tiles in wildy
Generic Draw Distance of 111 tiles dividing 1 one chunk 'equally' yields ~203 equidistant points.
203 equidistant points across 49 chunks yield a total that is just shy of 10,000 individual tiles needed to have a constant view of the entire wilderness in any 1 given world.
Assuming there are 148 worlds accessible for vanilla osrs gameplay means that one would have to have ~1.5 million individual points of contact in order to constantly view the wildy as a whole.
This is impossible in practice, right?
"The accounts are not easy to detect which makes it hard to bann them" Meanwhile the Araxxor highscores
I could see someone releasing an unofficial plugin for runelite so any malicious user could contribute while they PK. They would then be virtually impossible to identify since they aren't bots, but rather just normal scouts.
Unless Jagex look at the map and identify from the radius of reported users who the data is coming from. If everyone within 30 tiles of Bob is on the site it might be Bob etc.
Why would someone download a mod that summons PJers every time you enter the wildy?
@@thegrassgenieMoney or in-game rewards. Imagine if they log all your sightings then pay you an escalating reward every 1000 players you find. Or just every hour you spend in the wild
@@Dazen101 dude bro we could give every one who uses the mod a tbow!!!! thentheyll for sure use it!!!1one1!!
/sarcasm
@@thegrassgenieI presume the plugin would be designed to report the location of players you see, rather than reporting your own location. Just turning live players into scouts instead of using bots.
This PUBLIC site is powerful. Imagine the tech the bots and clans are using.
honestly, even without the amount of bad things the site is doing, scout bots are still a huge problem. giving everybody access to something like this is probably a good thing because it should (SHOULD) encourage jamflex to start going hard on banning scout bots, as seemingly scout bots have taken longer and been more difficult to ban then the bots doing the activities being scouted for.
this site just gives everybody access to the same thing cheaters have always had, and has always sucked. yes in a worse way, but also we need to focus on how bad of an issue all of this is.
Now it is public.
Before, it was just private exploit, there were already things like that.
The problem is of game design, it costs a free memb trial bot to scout, that is nothing.
wilderness rework killing wildy ❌
Players killing wildy ✅
Haven’t gone in wildy for 2 years haven’t planned on going back ever again
That fountain of rune bot farm is exactly how an individual human would do it manually, it's just now a farm. What was ever the mystery?
The mystery was the 53k gp...
the mystery was he didnt know why he was getting that amount of GP. he figured out that it was glories turning into gold, did you not watch the same video as me?
@@TheShizzlemopShizz always gets his man
Lol the ending when all those bots logged in i started dying laughing 😂
Jagex's incompetence when it comes to dealing with bots is honestly mind boggling.
Jagex isn’t incompetent with bots, they know bots keep the game alive. They aren’t going to intentionally inflict harm upon their game.
No wonder Everytime I’m farming rev caves, there’s always someone after me, I even delete all my friends because I thought they were giving out my world location, I have reported multiple bots in rev caves and Jagex hasn’t done anything about them, I see them everyday and now there’s a UAV, what’s next this is crazy
Rather than delete your friends you could have just turned off Friends Chat yeah?
i laugh sometimes at how after all these years they still dont have a fix for any of this lol , like we did not have the same problem years ago.
Plot twist we already know: jagex controls the largest share of bot and gold farms.
It wouldn't be a "profitable" possibility if it wasn't possible to be done.
It's the cctv wilderness that is spammed everywhere. Now imagine bot developers implement it, those wild bots will almost always avoid being pked.
RuneScape players when it comes to just playing the game and having fun : 🤢🤮🤬
RuneScape players when it comes to ruining every aspect of the game as much as possible for themselves and everyone around them : 😍🥰😋
You say that like it's not just a small minority doing this kind of stuff.
Least toxic osrs player mentality, can't believe how toxic this community is for a 2000s medieval sim clicker lol.
The best PI in all of osrs. Keep up the good work. Always an interesting watch
I love the cardboard microphone accoustics, makes me feel like I'm in 2008
Watch Jagex put a log out delay in the wilderness now.. Takes ONE to mess it up for ALL
that would be cool af. i hope they put a delay in. teleport delay too.
I would say can’t log in or log out in the wilderness. Connection issues? Get good.
needs to be set up just to fuck up the hoppers, so first panic hop is free, anything after that is delay, the more you hop the more delay
I've been saying this for years, would be the best update pvp has seen since multirevs started
It's beeen loooooong overdue. And why are you acting like it's a bad thing? Salty you wouldnt be able to use an auto logger?
Big money idea for them, make you pay premium to stay off the radar
If anyone has never tried pking, I really suggest trying it with cheap gear to learn! I started learning from scratch a week ago and it's the most fun I've ever had in RS
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They should/could introduce low risk worlds. Would save a bit of headache losing to max players and focusing more on fun. And provide a new entry into gradually higer risk and into the pker population.
the venezuelans are getting smarter. they set up accounts to specifically set off the scout bots and then they post up with their gang and wait for pkers to come and try to hit the lure account
That level of botting and "Player Tracking/Wilderness Manipulation" is actually enough to be seen as a cyber attack, or extreme malicious behavior. In short the dude running it all can very easily be sued by literally every country effected by it, especially the UK where Runescape HQ is. The UK as is has some of the most strict cyber-crime prevention laws in the world, so doing something like this is absolutely foolish levels of griefing.
that voice crack was funny as hell
The last clip might be the best thing I've seen in a while
Into the am clothes are actually all quality man, found them out on my own.
This has been a thing for years, ive seen it for myself in pvp clan discord channels but its just never been this level of being so accessible
They should add this into the game but make it something you have to toggle on for people who WANT to find fights in the wilderness, it would potentially help people find fights more often and against people who they could actually fight against knowing their gear and stuff but then people would probably just find some way to turn it into old duel arena and use it for staking. Idk maybe they could do some kind of test with it, I'd be interested in it if you could set it to show your whole inventory and stuff too for people who are really confident and WANT to risk stuff guess you'd have to see how many people would even use it though
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the massive bot farm in soul wars that is still currently ongoing. I’m sure you’re doing a video on it or something because I’ve never seen that many bots in one place
Sad too, soul wars was one of my favorite minigames back in the day. Though to be honest, I’m still just glad they added it back into osrs.
These things _already_ exist privately. So he really is just levelling the playing field.
Dude made a Batman machine in Runescape
Honestly, it’s quite impressive and kind of an ingenious idea. Have I died dozens of times yea, but still impressed
This kind of thing is why I hate _all_ PKers except those that limit themselves exclusively to bots. Look at this website and tell me PKers aren't toxic trolls - if you can honestly and legitimately make that claim with this evidence, I'll take whatever you're smoking. Days like today, I'm extra thankful to be an RS3 player. (That said, do very much enjoy your botbusting content and have for some time, keep up the good work!)
Yeah, reminds me of the wow players that roll pvp servers just to hit max and go gank low leveled players.
I fucking said this was happening as a guess I seen so many scout bots something had to be going on and the wildy agility course hasnt been this active in ages and the timing between bot and log ins just makes sense now ha.
Just make a runelite plugin that captures where the bots are, since they're updated in real time, and warn the player if a bot is close
Just did a bunch of Wilderness diary, not knowing about the UAV lmao. I also saw a bunch of lvl 3s running to the Fountain of Rune, not sure why.
i truly believe jagex has completely stopped caring about theyre game.
I got 73-99 slayer in the slayer caves, and most of it was 85-88 combat. I finished about 3 months ago. I feel lucky I didn’t have to deal with this
I knew something like this was going on ,im NEVER GOING TO WILDERNESS
It's funny PKers making this, surely they realise this is only driving more people out of the wilderness. And yet the cry that Wildy is dead, you literally killed it yourselves.
A single guy wanting to test the limits of his coding ability = every pker in the game
@HereticHalu It's not just a single guy testing his coding tho, these have been in private discords for years.
I once escaped from a guy 5 different times in a row by freezing and logging,
As soon as I hopped and tried to run he was in and attacked almost instantly
Glad I know why now… I always thought those scouts were actual alts lmao
damn, jagex stopped responding to your tips?
jagex just wants to make money now i think. im no longer ip banned from creating accounts anymore, havent changed my ip
@@cIeetz IP bans are useless
Happens when you have a UA-camr that makes them look more incompetent at their jobs then they already make themselves look.
Remember when the games biggest problem was bots, now the average players is a Cyborg
Ive played rs for over 18 years, and man the playerbase is just so sad, the game isn't enjoyable anymore, its playerbase have no soul or morals.
Jagex hasn’t even responded to you in months???
Must need to up our membership prices again to get a support team or contact method of any kind… surely they’ll give us that next time, right? Surely… 😢
Me: Drops all clues with Wildy steps.
"Jagex haven't responded in months"
This pains me to hear. Your work has always been important for cleaning up the game.
Anyone know what happened here?
I once escaped from a guy 5 different times in a row by freezing and logging,
As soon as I hopped and tried to run he was in and attacked almost instantly
Glad I know why now… I always thought those scouts were actual alts lmao
Also, a massive % of this game is bots and it’s most likely keeping the game alive (50-70% imo)
You clearly had your private on…
know I know why I feel like a loot goblin in the agility course
The wilderness is like gambling. Never but what you can’t afford to lose
Best thing I can suggest is get 2000+ skill total for wildy slayer. Less likely to have scout accounts that high.
Bots own most of the high scores. Plot twist, jagex runs the bots and the gold selling sites
Evens the playing field to be fair. Clienters have had all of this for years. Every client I saw had this group sourced scout
Jagex should just ban anyone who they suspect using the site to scout. Give them a mild ban at first and then move to perma if they notice that they repeatedly just happen to show up close to a scout
Knew about this for a while and every time I’m logged in on my pure in risk there’s always med levels that come and try to kill me
THATS WHERE THEY TRAIN THE HYDRA BOTS I SEE ALL THE TIME !!!
Those high killcount arraxors are goldfarmers thats basically their job every day for 8-12 hours
There was a bot outside Calvarion all day today and they watch your kills in the chat box
I grew up in the wilderness. I refuse to believe that because everyone is a user and there is no preferential treatment because that create too much power
This can be used to lure people, imagine you get scouted then they hop in in multi to att and then your team hops in
Maybe I'm just lucky or it's not as bad as it sounds. I spent the past weekend grinding over 5M XP solely in the wilderness and only encountered 5-6 pkers the entire time. Never died. The last 200k xp it was suspicious though. I was in a 500s world and a pker logged in, I teled, scrolled up, logged into a completely random 300s world and with zero delay the same pker logged into my world immediately. I teled again and he gave up. I was always risking 2-5m so probably a prime target compared to other low risks. Still wasn't an issue. Just set the player alarm and somewhat pay attention. Either way, 5-6 pkers in ~30 hours was actually below average compared to most weekends.
Bro pugger you ever think about working for Homeland security? 😂
Whoever has the job of banning bots needs to be fired and replaced. You can’t have the top 5 killcount being bots. It isn’t hard to miss..
This is actually insane. You should look into the shitbag pker that camps at GDZ/annakarl teleport. He uses 5 pking bots that are scripted to just use black salamanders and auto pray. While he is there actually "pking" on his main "sheikh". But he uses ahk on that account too so is it even pking or just watching a pking video? He is in the "inflection / IF" clan. Basically the new RoT, alot of rot are in this if clan if they arent back in the rot rebuild cc. Its been a problem for months now, me and my clan will do wildy bosses and this guy scouts the worlds. Then he will camp the pk bots at GDZ so they can kill people returning to wildy bosses. And if you fight them and the main account "Sheikh" then he calls his clan and usually a few more people show to help. But we only fought them a few times. These bots are poorly scripted though bcuz if you just run outside of the altar area that restores prayer the bots will just run back to altar middle and afk. Even if your attacking them out of their distance lol
Also check out the 3m per hour bot farm i been killing the last 2 weeks. East green dragons 21 wilderness. Almost every world has 2-6 bots level 60-115 most of them are level 80-90. If you just get a tb on them with fire tome and fire surge you can 2 hit most of them. Once they get tbd they jist stand there teying to teleport. Some of them might try to melee you but i just pray melee. I got 1.1k dragon bones in just under an hour, was like 52 minutes. 5 loot keys takes not even 5 minutes lol aaverage key is 50-150k. Some are more like 200k , but if you kill them after a loot run you only get like 10-30k lol easy money though
wildycctv was a crazy saga
And people wonder why I always vote No to anything remotely related to the wilderness lmao
this is the worst take i have ever seen
Cope more lol
@@johndoeyop Cope son
@@RUNESCAPER123 wildy good if u don't go there fine but why actively try to stop progression of the only free pvp area in the game
I think this is hilarious. Jagex has had a decade + to fix this bot problem.
As if this game wasn't hard enough now the sweats have a fucking UAV
reddit clue andies shitting their big boy pants
This is why I swap worlds in the rev caves if I see absolutely anybody lol. ggs
This has been out for years I don’t know why people are just now freaking out.
damn, if OSRS mods gave you permission to Permaband bots for some Merch and an in game Title with free membership you would help the community a lot with your Investigating skills.
“It has over 30k unique visitors and over 3mil page views!!” - shows 2.4m page views and 22k unique visitors
Zombie pirates got some wildddd bots 115 range etc
itd probably be better if the site got more traffic, more traffic means more eyes and more eyes means more complaints to jagex about it
you have no clue how many bot farms are out there with over 2k total. i'm in a disc from a long forgotten provider. this was a top dog back in the day then the dev ceased the service to work on an improved project. now this top dog is back but since the masses went some where else no one talks about it. due to jagex's current philosophy on anticheats this software will never be detected. doesn't mean accs won't and haven't been caught though.
Wow, is this really all the people in the wilderness?
The wilderness is going to turn into a "Please accept my duel request" just to PK.
I hope they get rid of PKing in general.
I want my fucking shovels back
we all do