If Shiv had been loved openly, she could love immensely. But instead she sees love as control, limitation, and isolation. She is doomed to be her father’s daughter instead of her own woman.
She legitimately cares so fucking much and i'm tired of people pretending she doesn't (or is incapable of it even). I'd argue she cares and tries the most but we move !
"if they knew what they said would go straight to my head what would they say instead" with the logan/shiv scene was IMPECCABLE. This video is amazing and it has shown me vulnerabilities in her that I couldn't see before, in the sense that even though these are just clips you could go back to their corresponding full scenes and better see the sadness and hurt. nice job, keep it up
back to talk about this video again the scenes you choose REALLY show that feeling she has of 'is this real- why am I not happy - emptiness' vibes bc she never thought she'd get chosen and then she does and immediately gets sucked into the horror of logan and being inside looking out, so isolated from everybody and she can't go BACK. having the 'as long as you're here no one can hurt you' be TOM and knowing where that's going :// the second one and how separate they are in comparison, the shot with the picture specially and the kendall crying scene with shiv not looking at him, the way she keeps not looking at the other person's eyes bc she's not totally there. the vid really makes me feel that disconnected feeling last part is SO painful, WOULD she do it again, would she trust tom, would she go with logan, would logan betray her (pretty sure on this one : yes), would Tom betray her if he truly know that she cared for him.... ow ow my heart
What makes it worse is realizing that her little breakdown during their wedding confrontation is essentially how Tom ended up "loving" her like.. everyone kind of went into this "girl who hurt you 🤨" mode without ever actually acknowledging just how hurt she legitimately is - and was when they got together ! - and without realizing how Tom's love for her wasn't as wholesome and selfless as those who believe it's there in the first place make it to be. Loved your comment either way, just felt like adding this
@@soniaiboyako4023 100% i'm a big shiv defender and hate it when people try to make it seem like Tom's betrayal is his 'revenge' for shiv treating him badly when to me they are both messed up and not good for each other from the start. But Shiv gets all the hate for it bc she's "cold" whereas Tom's awfulness even pre betrayal (tho he gets worse after) is said on this seemingly affectionate way that has people just overlook it? It's frustrating
@@willow8665 Thank you for even acknowledging that he was ever awful pre-betrayal 😭 Him literally never standing up for her, him constantly acting like she's never supporting him (both of which are confusing to me ngl), him often putting words in her mouth aside - he got particularly bad the second Shiv told him Logan offered her the position, which... yeah. Now all of a sudden he couldn't handle a bit of Roy banter (initiated and instigated by Roman mind you, but who's the only person he told to f*ck off? right) People just take what the show's characters say about Shiv as gospel, they parrot whatever negative opinion they have of her but won't acknowledge that those same characters are hellbent on never giving her any credit, putting her down etc. so it's no wonder we got the Shiv takes we got (and still get mind you)
Exactly exactly you get itt Btw ignore if weird but are you in tumblr bc I'm getting the sense based on your correct shiv opinions that I'd enjoy talking about the show wth you haha
The perfect scenes are according to the music rhythm, and also, we can see the spectacular actress and actuation. As everybody knows, the complete ensemble is perfect-one of the best TV Series forever and ever.
Still my impression: she is a woman in a man's world and she won't make any headway in it without Tom, who although she married, she holds at arms length.
made a tomshiv mitski vid (to Geyser) this weekend if folks want more failmarriage content
it's strange to me that a lot of people in the fandom can't see the deep sadness Shiv carries,this was a perfect character analysis
Thank you so much
She hides it well.
If Shiv had been loved openly, she could love immensely. But instead she sees love as control, limitation, and isolation. She is doomed to be her father’s daughter instead of her own woman.
She legitimately cares so fucking much and i'm tired of people pretending she doesn't (or is incapable of it even). I'd argue she cares and tries the most but we move !
I cried so badly because you capture perfectly her essence. How sad she is and how much she tries. I adore it
The way that this turns the original meaning of the song completely on its head while still having every lyric hit dead on is so impressive
"if they knew what they said would go straight to my head what would they say instead" with the logan/shiv scene was IMPECCABLE. This video is amazing and it has shown me vulnerabilities in her that I couldn't see before, in the sense that even though these are just clips you could go back to their corresponding full scenes and better see the sadness and hurt. nice job, keep it up
back to talk about this video again
the scenes you choose REALLY show that feeling she has of 'is this real- why am I not happy - emptiness' vibes bc she never thought she'd get chosen and then she does and immediately gets sucked into the horror of logan and being inside looking out, so isolated from everybody and she can't go BACK. having the 'as long as you're here no one can hurt you' be TOM and knowing where that's going :// the second one and how separate they are in comparison, the shot with the picture specially and the kendall crying scene with shiv not looking at him, the way she keeps not looking at the other person's eyes bc she's not totally there.
the vid really makes me feel that disconnected feeling
last part is SO painful, WOULD she do it again, would she trust tom, would she go with logan, would logan betray her (pretty sure on this one : yes), would Tom betray her if he truly know that she cared for him.... ow ow my heart
I absolutely love your thoughts here, thank you!
What makes it worse is realizing that her little breakdown during their wedding confrontation is essentially how Tom ended up "loving" her like.. everyone kind of went into this "girl who hurt you 🤨" mode without ever actually acknowledging just how hurt she legitimately is - and was when they got together ! - and without realizing how Tom's love for her wasn't as wholesome and selfless as those who believe it's there in the first place make it to be. Loved your comment either way, just felt like adding this
@@soniaiboyako4023 100% i'm a big shiv defender and hate it when people try to make it seem like Tom's betrayal is his 'revenge' for shiv treating him badly when to me they are both messed up and not good for each other from the start. But Shiv gets all the hate for it bc she's "cold" whereas Tom's awfulness even pre betrayal (tho he gets worse after) is said on this seemingly affectionate way that has people just overlook it? It's frustrating
@@willow8665 Thank you for even acknowledging that he was ever awful pre-betrayal 😭 Him literally never standing up for her, him constantly acting like she's never supporting him (both of which are confusing to me ngl), him often putting words in her mouth aside - he got particularly bad the second Shiv told him Logan offered her the position, which... yeah. Now all of a sudden he couldn't handle a bit of Roy banter (initiated and instigated by Roman mind you, but who's the only person he told to f*ck off? right)
People just take what the show's characters say about Shiv as gospel, they parrot whatever negative opinion they have of her but won't acknowledge that those same characters are hellbent on never giving her any credit, putting her down etc. so it's no wonder we got the Shiv takes we got (and still get mind you)
Exactly exactly you get itt
Btw ignore if weird but are you in tumblr bc I'm getting the sense based on your correct shiv opinions that I'd enjoy talking about the show wth you haha
stunned by this video it has devastated me. shiv roy the woman that she is
I downloaded this song just so I could think about this video whenever I listen to it lol. I love Shiv - great job!!
wow i’m speechless this hit me to my core !!!
absolutely heartbreaking
The perfect scenes are according to the music rhythm, and also, we can see the spectacular actress and actuation. As everybody knows, the complete ensemble is perfect-one of the best TV Series forever and ever.
this is sooooooo good, holy shit
this hits different after season four
This is amazing, I actually got chills at the end
Still my impression: she is a woman in a man's world and she won't make any headway in it without Tom, who although she married, she holds at arms length.
Amazing work here!! Thank you!
Damn i havent noticed, but even her husband Tom hurted her and mistreated..Thank for edit!
All of the men in her life used her for their own ambitions. She was not allowed to have any of her own.
really good!!
my babyyyyyyy :(
this is sooo good :(
my failqueen
This is the best thing ever
love this
🥰
100 like!!!