damn man i remember this being very difficult in 2007, now i look at the mechanics and can't help but think how easy it is compared to today's mechanics!
ty for this guide. You condense it so well and simply. last year we were struggling at Gutrogg. We actually ended up with only 7 ppl but did far better. but after 12 attempts we couldn't do it and/cheered for each other and said fairwell
Can confirm 3 years later it is still like this, people just walk in and think “I’m geared for this expansion I will shit all over these bosses” then they leave when they die 😆
Also worth knowing about Illidans' Demonphase is that being within 15 yards of Illidan will apply a debuff on you increasing Shadow Damage taken by 20% or so and will stack quickly. Since all damage going out during Demonphase is shadow damage you will die if you get too high stacks.. Melee should just apply their dots and just stay spread during this phase to make it easier on the healers.
MY REVIEW 101 FAST: GO WITH 3 HEALERS, 2 TANKS, THEN DPS UP TO SAY 20 PPL. Nuke bosses np, should one-shot all to council. AOE the 3 together, move the paladin...When debuff goes away on paladin nuke him hard, then avoid dmg until 75% reduce drops again... Iliidian is hard. Nuke 1 add in phase2, then do other. Kite them in banana shape, have all stand in inner circle always!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! else you wipe. Demon form is easy enough, use the trap akama does
Easy trick for this raid have atleast 1 demon hunter with a swapblaster or a couple of demon hunters with swapblasters make it easyer there is a chain where you can jump on to go up with this you can skyp 4 bosses jump with the demon hunter on the chain then use the swapblasters on others who are not demon hunters then go back up and keep doing that untill full raid is up have fun lol
I did 8/9 bosses in BT TW yesterday, July 11th, and today I made a group to finish my lockout, but when we got in there the whole instance was reset and all of the bosses/trash were up again so I can not finish my lockout.
Did the raid last night with 12(was15) people. Took around 2 hours. I can recall when I was hardcore raiding in tbc, the dps could been around 2k -2.5k dps(not gonna mention rogues with warglaivesxD) This run I see the dps was around 5-10K(10k+ mage) so basically 4-5x the dps. Average boss kill was around 7-10min or so. according to my recount the illidan kill tok 11min. to much rp in that to just nuke off and kill. So alot easier, but fun nontheless But I got to say- I played 183days /played in tbc- and the nostalgia hit me like a truck
What point is there in a video format if you're not going to use it to visualize anything? You might as well put Minecraft footage up. We can read the Adventure guide ourselves, but it doesn't provide where, when, why, or how, and neither did you.
Absolutely terrible experience using the group finder tool. Almost exclusively people who doesn't know shit about BT, won't listen to tactics, and most of those pretending to *do* know tactics don't know what the fuck is going on, especially against Reliquary of Souls and Illidan. Most bosses were still easy and we got them on first attempts, but not all: 1 wipe on Bloodboil, 4 on Reliquary of Souls, 2 on Council and 9 (!!) wipes on Illidan before the raid fell apart. Moral is, go with your guild or set up a raid manually.
going for this in 2021 feels like its been 100 years since last BC timewalk and my group just broke up on blood boil lol i feel like this raid is overtuned today boss had too much health and was one shotting people through big defensive cds and bosses in current raid tier with 10X more mechanics than this boss are a breeze
Considering warmane is still around and it is actively profiting from the server and it had arguably more of a following behind it, this is unlikely until much later down the line. Hopefully this doesn't occur until sunwell
Warmane has been around since 2010 they aren't going anywhere any time soon and they are hosted in russia im fairly sure and gummy's server is gonna be hosted in US big difference.
they have been changed quite a bit to make it easier and also work in current day wow, some mechanics just wouldn't work as they did back then because of class changes etc.
um you missed spell stealing the bop... kiting the pally out of conc and Frost nova... exactly what healing spells to interrupt (2) out of 4 she casts... the second tank gets targeted for the Shadow crash in phase 3 he can straff back and forth by himself in one of the 📦 area... then the last part of phase 3 she helps gets dazed says screw this and runs off to drop a trap... tank pulls him over it... slight delay he goes to his knees and pop CD s... gg... also you didn't mention kiting the flames in a tiny circle around their spawns cause the farther they get from the glaives the angrier they get... so many more mechanics that you either missed or didn't see in the ptr...
delete this lazy ass guide and reup a real one... people follow this and your gonna face plant in pugs... only reason mine didn't fall is cause I explained every fight... in detail... after what 9-10yrs since I tanked it for current content... I have the BT teleport Knecklace... normally like your content... just think you dropped the ball HARD here.
900 baseline ilvl that can warforge to 910, as far as i know it can't go higher than that but on PTR i saw one guy get a "timewarped warforged" item that was ilvl 925 so who knows.
yeah they have changed it from PTR, they had it staggered like they seem to be doing with all raid zones these days where most bosses drop a single ilvl of loot and the end boss has a half a tier higher ilvl baseline, instead they have just gone with a baseline across the board number, and the whole warforge thing seems to be indeed capped at 915, it's either 900 or 915 with no middle ground, so guess that's the numbers they finally settled upon.
i can imagine not even being able to get into the raid because ill probably need some ach showing ive done it but i cant get it in the first place because of that. RIP warglaives
what???? its not that im shit its that its hard to ever be accepted unless ur overgeared. i.e you always need end boss achievements to join raid groups but since no one accepts me into the grp in the first place i can never get said achievement. so dont be an idiot about it and just assuming im shit
If you carry on with this mopey ass wimpy attitude then no, you never will be "accepted". Dude, if you want to participate in something like this, participate in it. Nothing is stopping you from being a valuable member to any party. If taking the time out to obtain knowledge is asking too much of you, then you don't deserve any spot in any party that you think you are owed because "reasons"? Nobody gets left out of doing anything if they truly want to be there. Because if you want to be there, you will make it happen, and as a result you will be there! Grow a pair of balls guy. And by grow a pair of balls I mean step up your game, because whining about stupid shit isn't going to help you do anything. You don't have to be some super no lifer Warcraft nerd to accomplish trivial - moderately difficult content, you just have to not be stupid, and be willing to learn. If you just can't be bothered then don't expect others to be bothered to teach you the things they are actually willing to learn.
Real quick TW Dungeons is just another way for Blizz to make you waste more time running content you may have skipped over while leveling as they want you spending more time doing non sensical stuff so you play more and pay more to keep playing. I never once farmed BT while leveling so why should I be forced to go back and do content that I didn't want in the first place to POSSIBLY get a reward to help me at max level??? because Blizz wants you wasting time farming so you pay more to keep playing.
0:20 - High Warlord Naj'Entus
0:49 - Supremus
1:19 - Shade of Akama
1:57 - Teron Gorefiend
2:44 - Gurtogg Bloodboil
3:38 - Reliquary of Souls
4:47 - Mother Shahraz
5:22 - Illidari Council
6:04 - Illidan Stormrage
Thx
I finally got my glavies today and everyone in the raid watched this video so i would like to thank you !
Thanks for the vid. We used this to lead it tonight and got everything down 1 shot except Illi we needed 2.
damn man i remember this being very difficult in 2007, now i look at the mechanics and can't help but think how easy it is compared to today's mechanics!
ty for this guide. You condense it so well and simply. last year we were struggling at Gutrogg. We actually ended up with only 7 ppl but did far better. but after 12 attempts we couldn't do it and/cheered for each other and said fairwell
thanks Mike, great video, as always. quality!
Makes it look easy, lol. So many people doing this think it is LFR and they don't know the fights. Great video, as always Mike.
Pretty much was LFR, only the Illidan fight was somewhat interesting
Can confirm 3 years later it is still like this, people just walk in and think “I’m geared for this expansion I will shit all over these bosses” then they leave when they die 😆
Nice one preach. Resubbed to wow after a long break!
and so the endless green glaives begins
Also worth knowing about Illidans' Demonphase is that being within 15 yards of Illidan will apply a debuff on you increasing Shadow Damage taken by 20% or so and will stack quickly. Since all damage going out during Demonphase is shadow damage you will die if you get too high stacks.. Melee should just apply their dots and just stay spread during this phase to make it easier on the healers.
this is so simple yet I'm seeing ppl treating it like an lfr run and it's not working out for some of the bosses
It's really easy with Illidan as an exception, the entire raid needs to know what to do and do it correctly or he doesn't die.
In this video Rob Spaghetti shows us how to properly make a meal out of old noodles.. Wait.
Lest we forget sir Spaghetti Robs giveaway M3, that shall forever remain in our hearts.
had to check where I was
Thanks for the great video. Short yet covers everything. Just did a pug and although it took 4 hours, we did it.
MY REVIEW 101 FAST:
GO WITH 3 HEALERS, 2 TANKS, THEN DPS UP TO SAY 20 PPL. Nuke bosses np, should one-shot all to council. AOE the 3 together, move the paladin...When debuff goes away on paladin nuke him hard, then avoid dmg until 75% reduce drops again...
Iliidian is hard. Nuke 1 add in phase2, then do other. Kite them in banana shape, have all stand in inner circle always!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! else you wipe. Demon form is easy enough, use the trap akama does
Ty for this quick guide, cant wait to run it tomorrow evening :)
Inc 930 ilv req link Aotc for BT timewalking
Loquendero Amv it's funny due to scaling it doesn't matter what ilvl you have
@@collin833 that’s the point, it doesn’t stop people from making it a thing lol
Awesome guide preach! Thanks
Easy trick for this raid have atleast 1 demon hunter with a swapblaster or a couple of demon hunters with swapblasters make it easyer there is a chain where you can jump on to go up with this you can skyp 4 bosses jump with the demon hunter on the chain then use the swapblasters on others who are not demon hunters then go back up and keep doing that untill full raid is up have fun lol
What r swapblasters? and how to get?
This guide helped me a lot and we could manage to kill it, thanks a lot !
i just healed it i had a freaking blast
U NO TAKE GLAIVES!
haha lmao
i alredi jad glavz
Can i have the link to download the image? For discord
After watching this video, I wore my pig mask and hit all bosses with my bat
quality contemt as always ma man
I did 8/9 bosses in BT TW yesterday, July 11th, and today I made a group to finish my lockout, but when we got in there the whole instance was reset and all of the bosses/trash were up again so I can not finish my lockout.
You can finish it, it's just going to take 4-5 hours (if you pug).
Pretty sure thats intended to stop people clearing up to illidan then disbanding and charging for a illidan lockout spot just for the chieve.
Great Video, Great refresher, I wish you would have re-uploaded it during the last time walking event. ^_^
Did the raid last night with 12(was15) people.
Took around 2 hours.
I can recall when I was hardcore raiding in tbc, the dps could been around 2k -2.5k dps(not gonna mention rogues with warglaivesxD)
This run I see the dps was around 5-10K(10k+ mage) so basically 4-5x the dps.
Average boss kill was around 7-10min or so.
according to my recount the illidan kill tok 11min. to much rp in that to just nuke off and kill.
So alot easier, but fun nontheless
But I got to say- I played 183days /played in tbc- and the nostalgia hit me like a truck
can't enjoy, I only have 5 main hand warglaives
World record - for quickst guide of whole raid lol - seriously make some legion guides like this
looks like BT got heavy nerfed
for what i saw theres no maiev traps phase anymore?
Why the re-up? I still got the other video open!
when is this suppose to even come back out again???? i am getting impatient and it should have been back up already
Which server and patch is that ? Btw good work
so what up with thess reverse warglaives any ideas??
What point is there in a video format if you're not going to use it to visualize anything? You might as well put Minecraft footage up.
We can read the Adventure guide ourselves, but it doesn't provide where, when, why, or how, and neither did you.
how do I get in timewalk raid or there is something I'm overlooking?
so i need the warglaves on the character that i want the mog on ? i got both on my DH
If you have the acheivment for the glaives, it doesn't matter what character you do it on!
too bad i just cant get the offhand
2x mainhand now...
I have 2 offhands...
Mikaela 3mh drops and 2oh drops between 2 toons. and 3 years of fariming. I finally have it tho
Curious why you are holding onto your Flurry proc for so long?
what is the music used in the vid?
Crisp.
Absolutely terrible experience using the group finder tool. Almost exclusively people who doesn't know shit about BT, won't listen to tactics, and most of those pretending to *do* know tactics don't know what the fuck is going on, especially against Reliquary of Souls and Illidan. Most bosses were still easy and we got them on first attempts, but not all: 1 wipe on Bloodboil, 4 on Reliquary of Souls, 2 on Council and 9 (!!) wipes on Illidan before the raid fell apart. Moral is, go with your guild or set up a raid manually.
illidan was a cakewalk lol
Pug raid leaders asking for item lvl requirement for a TIMEWALKING RAID LOL
yeah every one ive seen so far is required 900+ ilevel lol
uber elitists nubs
lmao. Dellusions of Proness I think the condition of these people is called :D
How do you join a BT TW group?
Next week?
what's up with the floor at supremus? graphic bug?
PTR
going for this in 2021 feels like its been 100 years since last BC timewalk and my group just broke up on blood boil lol i feel like this raid is overtuned today boss had too much health and was one shotting people through big defensive cds and bosses in current raid tier with 10X more mechanics than this boss are a breeze
this is bfa but in tbc thing so it is MUCH easier
It is buggy as fuck right now. Almost no group I've been in can queue
Achievements?
preach!! what is the music? plz
Jasper Byrne - Decade Dance
Is this retail or private server?
was going to do this, then realized you all ready have to have the glaives to get the transmog and I only have one so far, so what's the point lol?
900 ilvl gear.
looks kinda fun, but i'll be playing gummies server felmyst
primula tsuchimi same.
make legacy videos pls
Gummy's server is gonna get shut down so fast lol
Considering warmane is still around and it is actively profiting from the server and it had arguably more of a following behind it, this is unlikely until much later down the line. Hopefully this doesn't occur until sunwell
still waiting for legacy of the dk...
Warmane has been around since 2010 they aren't going anywhere any time soon and they are hosted in russia im fairly sure and gummy's server is gonna be hosted in US big difference.
point taken
why tf is it so dark
"Black" temple?
I do kinda wish to resub wow for this event just no tim. Le sigh
preach it
1 minute to explain boss... Where were you when you weren't making guides 10 years ago!!!?!??!?!
He was making Way of The Warrior. Seriously check it out its his TBC video.
sigh....did they learn nothing from the troll fest that was Molten Core reboot? i wonder how long before this becomes as untenable as lfr.......?
Seems like mechanics were so easy back then.
they have been changed quite a bit to make it easier and also work in current day wow, some mechanics just wouldn't work as they did back then because of class changes etc.
um you missed spell stealing the bop... kiting the pally out of conc and Frost nova... exactly what healing spells to interrupt (2) out of 4 she casts... the second tank gets targeted for the Shadow crash in phase 3 he can straff back and forth by himself in one of the 📦 area... then the last part of phase 3 she helps gets dazed says screw this and runs off to drop a trap... tank pulls him over it... slight delay he goes to his knees and pop CD s... gg... also you didn't mention kiting the flames in a tiny circle around their spawns cause the farther they get from the glaives the angrier they get... so many more mechanics that you either missed or didn't see in the ptr...
delete this lazy ass guide and reup a real one... people follow this and your gonna face plant in pugs... only reason mine didn't fall is cause I explained every fight... in detail... after what 9-10yrs since I tanked it for current content... I have the BT teleport Knecklace... normally like your content... just think you dropped the ball HARD here.
This was actually a fucking joke of a raid in timewalk.
The group i was in wiped 4 times total in the raid which 2 of those were ninjapulls
what ilvl does he drop?
900
900
Do you get decent loot from timewalking junk?
BeyondThaDeepWoods 900
il 900 I think
900 baseline ilvl that can warforge to 910, as far as i know it can't go higher than that but on PTR i saw one guy get a "timewarped warforged" item that was ilvl 925 so who knows.
Rogoth01 The Master Wizard Nope the war forged ilvl is 915 I got a war forged piece on my run
yeah they have changed it from PTR, they had it staggered like they seem to be doing with all raid zones these days where most bosses drop a single ilvl of loot and the end boss has a half a tier higher ilvl baseline, instead they have just gone with a baseline across the board number, and the whole warforge thing seems to be indeed capped at 915, it's either 900 or 915 with no middle ground, so guess that's the numbers they finally settled upon.
noice
i can imagine not even being able to get into the raid because ill probably need some ach showing ive done it but i cant get it in the first place because of that. RIP warglaives
stop being shit then
what???? its not that im shit its that its hard to ever be accepted unless ur overgeared. i.e you always need end boss achievements to join raid groups but since no one accepts me into the grp in the first place i can never get said achievement. so dont be an idiot about it and just assuming im shit
Jackster Gaming you can be as overly geared as possible, you still get knocked back down to tbc ilvl.
oh ye tru lol
If you carry on with this mopey ass wimpy attitude then no, you never will be "accepted". Dude, if you want to participate in something like this, participate in it. Nothing is stopping you from being a valuable member to any party. If taking the time out to obtain knowledge is asking too much of you, then you don't deserve any spot in any party that you think you are owed because "reasons"? Nobody gets left out of doing anything if they truly want to be there. Because if you want to be there, you will make it happen, and as a result you will be there! Grow a pair of balls guy. And by grow a pair of balls I mean step up your game, because whining about stupid shit isn't going to help you do anything. You don't have to be some super no lifer Warcraft nerd to accomplish trivial - moderately difficult content, you just have to not be stupid, and be willing to learn. If you just can't be bothered then don't expect others to be bothered to teach you the things they are actually willing to learn.
Ghost, I like you. Do you like me?
James Goose yes
Haha keep it spicy, my man.
easy if youre lvl 150, enjoy your achievements, bye bye.
Real quick TW Dungeons is just another way for Blizz to make you waste more time running content you may have skipped over while leveling as they want you spending more time doing non sensical stuff so you play more and pay more to keep playing. I never once farmed BT while leveling so why should I be forced to go back and do content that I didn't want in the first place to POSSIBLY get a reward to help me at max level??? because Blizz wants you wasting time farming so you pay more to keep playing.
You are a moron
im early damn
Bring back TBC
first