Land of the Dead and The Social Commentary of George Romero - re:View
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- An extended discussion that was edited out of our Dawn of the Dead re:View in which Mike and Jay talk about George Romero's more recent zombie films and his use of social commentary in them.
Zombies man, they creep me out.
This reminds me of the time dunkey beat sky in smash.
what are you doing all the way down here you dumbass.
videogamedunkey wtf are you doing here?
Mil respects Mil
Hey dinky
"Can a zombie be a tweet?" is one of my all time favourite Mike quotes
I love right after with the “friend request why not a zombie request” his face 😂
Yes.
Definitely!
ABSOLUTELY! 💯
This & the Zaat intro where he smokes while eating a cheeseburger are my favorite Mike's Moments, other when he's laughing at old people or Rich.
diary of the dead was awful but it has one of my favourite scenes in any movie - when the zombies appear at the farm, everybody panics although they should be used to it by now, and the deafmute amish guy just runs into his shed, reemerges with a looney tunes style stick of dynamite makes a few grunting noises and then blows the zombies up. That was some wonderful comedic timing
lol that made the movie a hundred times better
What a wonderful scene
👀 what about Dawn of the Dead 2?
this whole video was put up just for the last joke wasnt it?
Do you cover wars? Sorry, I had to!
Cameron Leach you know it!
The 'rich people buying things' moment could have worked if it was so much more petty. Wine is obvious, a sign of class that can be consumed and would have been laying around for the scavengers to pick up. Maybe movies too: only the rich can afford the electricity to waste on that, rather than 'no freezing'.
So you would have shitty gas station wines and terrible DVDs from walmart as the new signs of wealth. That would work.
That would actually be interesting. A subversion of the signs of wealth
Kind of like seeing how the Proles and the Party members live in 1984.
Those Diary of the Dead clips were incredibly hard to watch, holy fuck.
imagine the movie
Hamuko Arisato That film is something else...
Will Cooke would u describe it as a "beautiful tragedy"?
It was cringe-worthy in a few spots, but mostly just boring as shit.
I didn't mind Diary, myself. It wasn't a great film, but if there's one thing I could say about it, it's that the found footage aspect didn't detract at all from it. Usually I think found footage-style movies suck, but seeing all of Diary through the eyes of a character added to the tension. I also liked that the movie kept small-scale. There were very few giant hordes, and the characters didn't end the movie as seasoned zombie killers mowing down zombies by the thousands.
I contrast it to, say, Cloverfield, which was a better movie in every regard, but for which I think the found footage actually detracted from the experience.
"Can a zombie be a tweet" Man that had me in hysterics, why have I only just discovered this video!
Romero said he always meant the social commentary in Dawn to be right up front, but I think because Dawn (and all his early films) were so collaborative w/the cast & crew, it had the effect of diluting the directness of the message, which was a good thing. By the time Land came out, I think it was similar to what happened w/Lucas on Phantom Menace, ie- no restrictions & Romero surrounded by a lot of yessir-types instead of people who were challenging him creatively, resulting in a very static & bland film.
Disagree.
Land of The Dead may not be as good as his other ones, but it has all of the complexity narratively and subtextually as his other films. The characterization isn’t great and there’s other issues, but when you watch LotD right after Day of the Dead, the whole movie is just an expansion on the themes of Day which asks,
“Can zombies learn? Can they be conditioned to act more human?” The entire movie is that juxtaposed with the humanity having “recovered,” but being just as shitty as the last three movies.
Humans don’t change even if a crisis happens; they still find a way to be greedy and awful while zombies are sort of more sympathetic because they actually learn and change. They are the bigger character.
It might just be that it wasn’t as obvious but I disagree. I think this film totally expands on his earlier implications and thoughts on humanity.
@@JustChadC Except that the metaphors are completely mixed from Dawn to Land.
And it's just not true. We've had many disasters throughout history and we've seen human beings come together and work together to resolve those issues. Not all, but most people will try to do the right thing as best they can.
Romero, much like Lucas, failed to understand what made his own creation so compelling to their respective audiences.
And no, the ham-fisted messaging in Land is not subtle or complex. Rich white people are evil, and poor minorities are altruistic and good, and zombies are better than all of us..(???). No. It's just a classic angry liberal spouting about divisive classism. This isn't revolutariony, new, or deep, and by the time Land finally came out, very very played out.
@@JustChadC I completely agree, and to add to this at least Romero tried to explore new themes with each of his movies even if the quality fluctuated a bit throughout his career. Whereas the prequel trilogy just feels completely pointless and adds nothing of value aside from showing more of what was already there, and not in a good way at all.
Or you could just watch diary of the dead and survival of the dead with the commentary on...😂😂😂
The internet hits are coming from inside the house!!
But who was cell phone?
But how? There is only one land line.
Rich Evans
Is the key to all of this.
I agree.
petrallen
Verily, sir; unto you, a congratulatory message of my respect shall be bestowed for eloquently summing my thoughts of agreement and appreciation in a much more graceful manner than I have been able to previously express.
You, Sir, make a persuasive argument.
Rich evans for President.
Too late
Don't I wish... and his VP would be Mr. Plinkett, but inexplicably you never see them together in the same room.
It's never too late! Viva La Rich Evans Revolution!
...I so wish there was a PreRec stream tonight...
The Stoklasa agrees
1:16 "Tenpenny didn't build that tower! He found it, and took it from whoever used to live there. Now we're gonna take it from him."
I make a point of killing every ghoul I see.
Nerds 😂
The only 'land of the dead' is the landing that Rich Evans will experience when he eventually falls over and breaks his bones
I'm fuckin dying.
From fucking diabetes
*cue Rich's crazy clown laugh*
Land of the Dead was the first Romero movie I saw, I was 12 or 13. What always stuck out to me was the evolution of the undead. Big Daddy learning how to use guns and tools and waging an all-out war on humans for slaughtering his kind really struck me as cool, I'd never seen anything like it. There's a moment where he's using a jackhammer that comes unplugged as he walks away, and you watch him figure out that the jackhammer has to be powered by electricity. Also when his friend is burning to death, so he shoots him as a mercy killing. It's not a great movie, but I'll always love it.
The commentary on Romero relation with new technology is on point. I'd like to point out that he was the first director Sony decided to bring on the first Resident Evil movie, of course George being himself, he asked one of his assistant to record himself while playing the original Resident Evil, so he could familiarise himself with the settings of RE's universe. His first script is very loyal to the event of the game, he even added elements which showed Chris and Jill relationship is more than typical squad mate. Also, he did a commercial for Resident Evil 2 in Japan, and it was pretty good, except for the casting which was a bit strange, but it's just an ad afterall. Sony wasn't really pleased with his script so they got him out and after a bit of search, Anderson was selected. I think he did a good job on the first one, more precisely, on the music. The other RE are just shit with little to nothing in term of good ideas.
The RE movie was surprisingly good, despite how blatantly low budget it was. The sequels upped the budget and set pieces but were dumb disposable movies with hilarious scripts making disposable characters.
So, you’re telling me there’s a John carpenter let’s play of resident evil somewhere out in the world? I need to find it.
my god that romero impression is gold
Tenpenny tower in the capital wasteland from fallout 3 makes a reference to this movie haha
@@edmccurdy469 never played any games on that series, not big on fps. oh well, fun fact tho
Having met the man. Can confirm.
@@vespertinnee imagine being you, gross
fun fact: Land of the Dead was close to Day of the Dead's original screenplay (Day was heavily rewritten because budget got slashed and Romero didn't want to sacrifice fx).
Oh my god Diary of the Dead looks like the worst thing ever made
#DontMessWithTexas
Eh. It is fine. You mostly laught at the cheesiness.
I deeply regret renting it back then.
Worse than bagpipes?
I still think it's the worst movie I've ever seen
"The film was shot with a Panasonic HDX-900"
"I added scary music to scare you"
@Enclave Officer PLUR
it's hard for me to choose a favorite between the first three because they're all so good.
it's hard for me to choose a favorite between the last three because they're all so awful.
get it? it's an allegory for lif- i mean, for politic- i mean, for star wars.
I love Land and think Diary is pretty solid. Definitely not awful at all.
I love the new Dead trilogy Survival of the Dead is my favorite of the last three. Diary of the Dead is my favorite found footage film. Land of the Dead is a great epilogue to the Dead series
came back for the israel palestine conflict reference - nice
Israeli-Palestinian conflicts, amirite?!?
this movie really is more relevant than ever
Did something happen??
@@FreedSamurai when doesn't something happen?
Prayers for Palestine 🇵🇸
Well, hiring a black actor because he's the best actor was pretty amazing for its time, lol
*****
You guys are really trying to argue...
*****
that it was COMMON to have black people as the lead actor? Really? Racism didnt exist?
in the 60's? WHAT?
Uhura from Star Trek was the first black actress in a non-menial role. The very first.
Also, the black guy slaps a white girl very hard in the movie. Thats...not something they approved of.
CommenterD Louis Armstrong was popular but they still made him use the back door.
Having one or two examples of black actors able to get work doesn't mean that the entertainment industry wasn't discriminatory. I swear, you guys pull the "I found an example" fallacy like it's a wild card out of your ass. Give me a break.
that texas scene from diary of the dead with the music almost made my head explode.
Ya' dont mess with texas
@@reamusray790 Texas is dumb, Sandy
Is Donald Trump replacing Barack Obama?
sadly.
Fucking right he is.
Is stupidity replacing intelligence?
I just laughed like Rich Evans. The magic was in me the whole time.
Yup, Orange is the new black
Land of the Dead has a special place in my heart, because it's the first time I've seen Dennis Hopper and John Leguizamo on-screen together since the Mario Brothers movie...
They make the movie worthwhile
Mike's George Romero impression is fucking on point.
Almost as good as the impression of Jay that Rich Evans is doing in this episode.
Watching this in 2023 hits way harder
VIDEODROME PLEASE
At the beginning of the movie, if you listen carefully to the tuba and tambourine zombies in the town bandstand, they are playing notes from "The Gonk", the mall music from George A. Romero's Dawn of the Dead (1978).
George A. Romero was so impressed with Simon Pegg and Edgar Wright's Shaun of the Dead (2004), that he asked them to appear in this, the fourth part of his "Dead" series, and they appear as the photo-booth zombies in the carnival and barroom sequence. They also feature prominently in the artwork for the Unrated Director's Cut.
The zombie of Tom Savini's biker character, who was killed in Dawn of the Dead (1978), can be seen in one of the scenes.
George A. Romero's daughter appears in the film. She is the soldier who shoots the zombie on the electrified fence.
This movie's Pittsburgh premiere was at the Byham Theatre, which used to be called the Fulton Theatre. This theater, when it was still the Fulton, was the same theater where Night of the Living Dead (1968) premiered in 1968.
An amputee played the legless zombie climbing the back of the Dead Reckoning. His name is David Campbell, and was also in Dawn of the Dead (2004) as the "Squished Zombie".
There were four titles before "Land of the Dead" was chosen: "Dead City", "Dead Reckoning", "Twilight of the Dead", and "Night of the Living Dead: Dead Reckoning".
The view of the zombies rising from out of the river is an homage to the classic scene from Herk Harvey's Carnival of Souls (1962), where the dead rise out of the Great Salt Lake before the dance sequence.
This is the first film of George A. Romero's "Living Dead" series which uses digital effects.
The most expensive of George A. Romero's zombie movies.
In the scene where the zombies get into the city, the soldier playing cards, who has his head pulled off, his camouflage uniform says "Rickles" in the name area. Rickles was the name of one of the soldiers from Day of the Dead (1985).
Thanks, IMDb trivia.
John Leguizombie. :)
cso2040 - *Sings that 'la la laaa' song from Charlie Brown while exiting, dejected..
Luigi finally kills King Koopa
Fuckin post your Patreon in the description or link it at the end you Anti-Hacks Jesus Christ. I was gonna donate $10.
I am sure you can still find it if you use google. But that is silly they don't put it in the description.
He did Survival of the Dead to make up for Diary. He couldn't chance letting that pile of incomprehensible nonsensical shit be his last movie.
Survival was even worse than diary
Survival is a fun film I will never understand the hate that film gets
@@aydenvavra2153 in my opinion it doesn't live up to his best "Dead" movies, but yeah it's definitely a good watch, and took the concept to interesting places.
@@WallKenshiro Fun but odd fact Romero went on to call Day and Survival of the Dead his favorites in that series. I am glad Romero got to make a western film with Survival and i love it’s bizarre humor
People often bring up the social commentary aspect when discussing Romero's zombie movies but I find it among the least interesting elements about his films. It's pretty clear cut in Dawn and downright on the nose in Land Of The Dead.
Agreed.
Yep, commented before watched but I was pretty sure Jay and Mike were on the same page.
@@realgamergirl4638 yea but that's cuz warm bodies was a mediocre movie at best
Knowing that he’s Spanish and lived in Cuba in his youth, I figured he saw people for who they are and not their skin color
"I can't really comment on Land" - Mike, 2016, Land of the Dead review.
Definitely right about Diary sucking, and signifying with some finality that Romero, rest his bold and brilliant soul, had reached a point where his reach was exceeding his grasp. He had an amazing run for over 4 decades. If nothing else, Diary can be a comment about how much diaries suck, especially those put out for public consumption, i.e. social media.
Land was solid though. It has a solid 80s B-movie feel, like one of the better John Carpenter efforts.
I liked Diary 🤷♂️
I like Diary and Survival of the Dead
Shittiest moment in Diary of the Dead. And this confirms my theory that Romero lost his fucking mind sometime in the 90's .
Cardborad cutout twenty somethings watch YT videos of the zombie outbreak. They stumble on a random video from Japan with a Japanese woman doing a vlog saying "Shoot in head. Don't let them dead." Something to that effect, and she say's that in a very badly portrayed broken English. Then, she looks off camera worriedly as a zombie roar or some shit happens.
Diary and Survival of the Dead are so fucking bad that they make Land look like Citizen Kane.
lol, wow I don't even remember that scene but then again I only watched it once when it came out. About the only thing I remember is the Amish guy.
The bit with the Amish guy and the bit with the rebelling black people ready to take back the zombie-infested city are the only interesting parts.
That's probably true . . I seem to remember the first movie that really disappointed me was "The Dark Half" -- doubly so because it was based off a Stephen King book.
It also came out in the early 90's.
Watching on 19/10/23 as a distraction from the news. Boy, I didnt expect 10:21. 🇵🇸❤
5/4/24... doesn't get any better!
I can't believe (INSERT MEME) something something Hack Frauds.
Jonathan Guzman I find your hack of fraud disturbing.
So has that.
Do Return of the Living Dead you hack frauds!!
4:33
boy oh boy let me tell you about how things are going in 2021
Not first.
Hilarious.
Hillaryous?
Reminds me of Tenpenny Tower keeping out the Ghouls.
Both of the Romero re:View episodes are great. They both kind of focus on a couple Romero movies, which makes me think an episode on his non-zombie movies would be really interesting. Say, The Crazies, Martin, Creepshow, Monkey Shines, whatever.
Holy shit! so I'm not the only person who thought Survival of the Dead was sort of ok?
I’d agree with you. At least as far as the latter three are concerned.
Just rewatched Land of the Dead for the first time in ages, and I have to say, it's not that bad. In fact, I think it's aged fairly well. Of course it's not as good as the first three, but for sure it's the best of the last three Dead films.
I also thought the use of money was rather goofy, but I was willing to suspend disbelief. (It's possible they still use cash as a currency, because it's still technically rare in a world where the Federal Reserve is no longer printing money, and counterfeit operations are probably near impossible. I mean, it's not like paper money is really any more intrinsically valuable today, so it could be interesting social commentary that most people are still using this funny money in Land of the Dead, because they still don't know basic economics and they're just doing the same shit they've always done, because they don't know any better. However, if that was Romero's intent, he could've articulated it better, for example, by showing Dennis Hopper securing other assets, like gold and silver, to better show the class divide. Like, he still uses cash, but only because the dumb masses still believe in it. Meanwhile, he's invested in all sorts of commodities as well. There should've been at least one character who knew better than to value all this worthless crap. As Dennis Hopper says, "in a world where the dead are coming back to life, things lose their meaning.") Anyway...
I think Land of the Dead is especially interesting in a post-Covid world. You see the same divide today, with the fascist megacorporations like Amazon and Walmart acting like Fiddler's Green, sheltered from any real economic damage, and yet small businesses like hot dog vendors are struggling to play the same old game, and follow the same old rules, and survive in the same old system -- the same old hierarchy. And then you have the OTHER people, like Riley in the film, who are simply done with this "border" shit, this class division, and they're living life outside of all that, on their OWN terms.
So yeah, Land of the Dead is underrated. Not the greatest, but I do like the concept and the characters and especially the gore effects. To me, "Land" is the last genuine Romero film.
Wait, wasn't freddy a pedo in the original too? Wasn't that why the whole neighbourhood got together and murdered him in the first place?
re-view Lifeforce, the world needs it
shopping being delusional while the world is going to shit? LOL this aged well
2020 - Rich people trying to ignore the problem
Halloween? Zombies? election season? Here we go again
"when shit hits the fan, classes evaporate" boy this is from before covid
Land isn’t bad. Diary and survival are god awful.
I actually thought it was better than them all except of course the original dawn of the dead of course. I like a wider scope as opposed to NOTLD or Day.
I actually died laughing when you made the George impression. Amazing.
The beginning skit actually annoyed the shit out of me. I hate the remake too, but Freddy was always intended to be a pedophile. The first movie wasn't exactly fun fantasy horror.
Karl Karlos
It's heavily implied, and Wes Craven flat out stated that he originally intended to have it outright stated in the movie.
Cabbadath B There's a big difference between implying a character is a paedophile in subtext, and framing your entire narrative on a character being a paedophile.
Ned Wholeness Your point? Pedophilia wasn't even the problem with the remake. Though the fact that he ONLY molested the children, and didn't also kill a few is a bit underwhelming. They should have just gone all the way.
Funny how this film feels less cartoon like at the moment. Trump sits in his ivory tower with his cronies clinging to their money, while the COVD 19 virus runs rampant. All bets are off and the undead are in the Skyscraper.
Here in Brazil we are re-opening amusement parks, while we hit 50k deads. Land of the Dead came immediately to mind.
After all the insanity I see nowadays it wouldn't surprise me if people were still shopping for diamonds during the end of days tbh
This movie is vindicated by current events, whatever the quality of the movie is.
As heavy handed and dumb as it can be, I really enjoyed Land of the Dead. I first saw it when I was 12, so it was perfect for my dumb kid brain and I enjoyed the idiotic action and cartoons characters. It felt a lot like a cult 90s anime I would have watched. Plus, I love seeing Pittsburgh on the screen, it makes a good setting for a zombie film
They glossed over the zombie story arc
Watching the richer classes clamouring to reopen shops and continue life as normal in the middle of an ongoing pandemic makes this film not look quite so stupid
Honestly with the pandemic
Rich people buying gold at the end of the world seems pretty realistic to me....
Yep, that’s a Mike take that hasn’t aged well at all.
Dude... after last year I can believe people would be so delusional that theyd buy jewelry and other useless shxt
I can't believe I missed this one! I wasn't a big fan of Land of the dead. I think because it was made under Universal. But with today's climate, it feels a little more relevant.
"What's a tweet? Can a zombie be a tweet?" I love Mike's old man impressions.
4:21 well that didn’t age well. Rich people were online shopping and traveling during a world wide pandemic in 2020.
Really wanted to like Land of the Dead. Unfortunately, it was a pile of poo. Gave up on his zombie movies after then.
Please do a Fitzcarraldo & Burden Of Dreams re:View episode.
It's an amazing film to understand the production of, and one of my favorites.
It's called re:View, but Mike never rewatched it! THIS IS THE END OF RE:VIEW AS WE KNOW IT!
I like land of the dead, although it’s been a while since I’ve seen it.
I'm going to be honest, I completely erased Diary of the Dead from my memory. Thanks for dredging those memories up guys.
I agree with this analysis. I wish George had gotten to continue to just make his zombie movie per decade, and as you said didn't think he had to insert social commentary. It happened naturally through his storytelling. Then when he went to write Land he tried to force it in. Day is his best work where he unknowingly wrote in important social commentary involving reason vs fear, progress vs assumptions. So much at work in that film, and it just happened naturally.
Doesn't Snowpiercer have a pretty similar classism message? Expect done way better.
Oh really? I have seen that, but it was a while back.
Snowpiercer was made more recently, right? They stole George's message!!!
Well, actually Snowpiercer is based off a comic called "Le Transperceneige" all the way back from 1982, whereas Land Of The Dead came out in 2005.
It's cool, I saw Snowpiercer and really enjoyed it :)
i really REALLY loved that movie, but it could have been better, the ending was a little anti-climatic tho.
9:07 As I'm watching this, this video has about 72k views.
When are you hacks going to review Hacksaw Ridge?
What happened to the soundcloud audio? :\
I miss listening to that
Evil Dead II Re:view! Please!
I can't seem to find your day of the dead re-view?!
This’ll be like the third RLM video I’ve rewatched this summer where they start going into how they think some political concept presented in a movie is too cartoonish and over the top and beyond the suspension of belief only for now to have all of it to have happened almost verbatim. Just goes to show how absolutely alien of a place the world is today from the way the world was even only 4 years ago.
@uNnHkP8mza 🗿
So Jay and Mike pointed out themes of the first three films:
1st film, Civil Rights with a simple but effective style (1960s)
2nd film, Consumerism with a fun and creative style (1970s)
3rd film, Authority with a serious and harsh style (1980s)
I feel I could add themes to Land and Diary too.
Land of the Dead: Clear cut politics with dumb Hollywood style (2000s or 1995 to 2005)
Diary of the Dead: Sensationalist with modern vlogger style (2010s or 2006+)
Though Diary of the Dead came out in 2007, so perhaps it was ahead of its time in being annoying and hyper-active.
Survival of the Dead, I could talk about dividing ourselves into groups and creators just doing what they want (Patreon and such) but I feel it's too much of a stretch.
That’s what’s funny about these bunker silos for the super rich….those would devolve into feudalism and/or chaos so quickly
unfunny political joke
Haha, GOOD ONE!
911
I'm burning inside.
This past election cycle!
Олег Хайнс You killed it with that one.
I simply hated the ending where the guy lowers the bazooka and states: "They're just looking at a place to stay, just like us".. seriously wtf.. Did they just stop being a threat? When did that happen? I felt so disappointed coming out of the cinema.. It also looked outdated for when it was released but the end just really drives it into the ground..
Zombies are people too, bigot! 🧟♂️
What was that black goo?
...a reference to the first RLM video I ever saw...
how well do you guy feel this video holds up now in post pandemic world?
This conversation between Mike and Jay is pretty topical in 2020.
Too short! I WANT YOU LOOOONGER!
2:45 Damn you Mike! This is exactly the screenplay and pitch I've been working on for years!!! In the year 2242, Earth becomes a doomed planet. The extremely wealthy among us build their own personal transport to a nearby inhabitable planet. They land, the light of their new sun beaming into their eyes for the first time as the hatch doors open. They descend the ramps and begin to ask each other, "So who is taking out the trash?"
You fucking THIEF!!!!!
Has anyone mentioned the awkward Simon Pegg behind the scenes cameo?
I have come to appreciate this movie over time.
I consider it part of a second trilogy with the
Night/Dawn remakes..
"Friend request... How about a zombie request?" is one of the funniest things I have ever heard. Wow.
underrated for sure
Hey now, that movie got me laid in college.
i like this show more than anything else in this channel, i wish they speak about the thing, back to the future, godfather, alien and predator in the future.
Susan will be a fine first lady..!!!
If they made this review in 2020, would they still insist that people wouldn't behave stupidly in an emergency?
I liked Land. It wasn't great but it was fun.
Survival was fun too. Diary is probably his worst movie imo
You thought that character was offensive? Lol the whole point was taking a swipe at powerful white people having black servants.
Don't mess with tExAs!
That George Romero impression really took the edge off
I was at the world premiere of this movie at the Edinburgh film festival. George gave a speech afterwards. My favourite part was when Hopper distracts the guy and shoots him in the back of the head. Overall, I agree though. Not a good movie.
I have to hand it to you. The best mind fuck yet.
Are you crazy? I don't even know anything about movie premiers.
Let's go get that drink.
K
Land of the Dead is not bad but we’re certainly out of the perfect original trilogy here. Why is money a thing? Glad he said that. I love Romero and he’ll live in a sky high tower forever for me but the last 10 years he made films was just not the same unfortunately. I saw this in theaters and it was so fun because I was 15 and not supposed to be there and I fucking LOVED his Dawn of the Dead but this just wasn’t the same.
So, someone’s gotta fix the plumbing, hvac, electric, elevators etc of these high rise apartments. Also, food and water would be critical. Grocers/food smugglers and plumbers and other techs would be very valuable. And they wouldn’t get paid in cash but in food or alcohol or something. There’s nothing to traditional rich would have to trade that would be useful. The high rise apartments should have been filled with plumbers, electricians, brewers and farmers, not bankers, stock traders, etc.