13 outs…the 8 of diamons is already accounted for in the flush draw outs, little worse than a 3-1 dog with one card to come….thats where I do my best work.
All diamonds left are live (even K of diamonds as straight flush beats a boat!) which is 13-4=9 flush outs, then 3 more 8’s give hero a straight, and two tens left give us a full house so 9+3+2=14 outs or about 31.5% equity.
this is the exact video i needed right now. pot odds, equity, all that math stuff... its alot to learn all at once. appreciate the vid. will watch 47 times by dinner time
Just want to say I appreciate the content and the knowledge you share! You have helped my game tremendously and I couldn’t thank you enough! Again, thank you Mr. Little
You can ballpark your equity by using the rule of 4 / 2. Say your opponent throws out a 1/3 pot bet on the flop and you think they could have top pair and you’re sitting with a flush draw. You need 25% equity to call (not factoring in implied odds), and your flush draw gives you 9 outs so that’s 36% equity assumed making the call profitable. However, if he has a set then your equity greatly reduces because you have to remove an out and then reduce your equity because they have a draw to a boat if you hit your flush. This is why it’s important to calculate your equity versus their entire range but it’s a little complicated and this explanation is fine for the sake of understanding the concept.
The rule of 2 isn’t super accurate as there are 44 cards left HU so to convert to percentage (14/44)x100= 14x(100/44)=14x2.27… so better approximation would be multiple by 2 and a quarter or 28+14/4=28+3.5=31.5% is much closer to the equity you have. Still a fold but a 3.5% difference is pretty substantial.
You said multiply by 4 when opponent go all in on flop and multiply by 2 when u r on turn. But what if opponet bets on flop and turn too? So here on flop to turn we have to multiply by 4 or 2 ? Ad turn to river bet still to come.
Thank you, Jonathan. I was going to write a message to you on X to ask for maths content, but you read my mind and beat me to it! Do you have maths quizzes/courses/classes/challenges/homework, on premium poker coaching?
Sometimes I wonder how clever other people are in maths 😢 . How I thought this works is this: let's say big blind is 10 dollars. There are 3 players in front of you all put in 10 d. So 30 d. Your turn. You have AKs. You call with 10, pot 40 d. Flop comes J24, nothing for you, not even suit. Someone raises 20. Two other calls. Your turn. Should you a) fold b) call c) raise ? Because the procents don't really tell me anything. These kind of cards are the worst there is.
U shouldn't be calling with ak you should be raising 3x plus 1 per limp and just because you have ace high doesn't mean the board is bad for you. Any face card is good for the preflop aggressors range, so you bet 33% on flop
The easy math should be like this: what pot odds should I call on flop, turn and river with - a gut shot - flush draw - flush draw & gut shot - flush draw & OEST - full house draw (set/trips/2 pair) etc This kind of math is way easier to remember. The main mistake people do is paying too much for a weak draw/ When you know these odds more or less, you will win more than lose. For example, I often call or re-raise with a top pair on FD flop because I know there is only 36% chance to complete the flush. Is some countries people love to go all in with FD and no connection at all. So, learn the habits at the table and it would be easier to win.
It’s not that I don’t wanna do the math. It’s the fact that other people sit there doing the math thinking it’s ok to make the rest of us at the table to wait 10 minutes for a dumbass to make each and every decision. It’s so bad these days I literally give a player 2 or 3 minutes and then I call for a clock. Should not take 15 minutes to think out a $15 pot. If you’re all in I’ll give you an extra minute or two but that’s it.
Oh, for sure. If folks are trying to math during every round of betting it’s going to piss a lot of people off. Rule of thumb, you need to practice until you can do all of these calculations in under a minute. Probably, 30 seconds if we are being honest. And for the love of god, stop doing this in friendly cash games if you’re taking a year and a half to make a move. Fast way to lose friends.
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How many outs do you have and what are your odds of getting there?
Hero: T♦9♦
Villain: K♠K♣
Board: Q♦J♦J♠T♠
14 outs
13 outs…the 8 of diamons is already accounted for in the flush draw outs, little worse than a 3-1 dog with one card to come….thats where I do my best work.
@@kenrobinson1188 you have 9 diamonds for the flush, 3 non diamond 8's, and 2 10's for a full house. 9+3+2 = 14
@@kenrobinson1188 14 outs total. 9 diamonds(note that Kd makes straight flush, beating villain's boat). 3 eights(not counting 8d twice). (Kh makes a straight but villain gets boat). 2 tens.
All diamonds left are live (even K of diamonds as straight flush beats a boat!) which is 13-4=9 flush outs, then 3 more 8’s give hero a straight, and two tens left give us a full house so 9+3+2=14 outs or about 31.5% equity.
this is the exact video i needed right now. pot odds, equity, all that math stuff... its alot to learn all at once. appreciate the vid. will watch 47 times by dinner time
Some of us still haven’t learned 😎
@@kenrobinson1188 im one of them
I'm glad it's helpful to you!
Thank you for this video Jonathan. I am making a point to come back and rewatch this at regular intervals to fully grasp these concepts.
Just want to say I appreciate the content and the knowledge you share! You have helped my game tremendously and I couldn’t thank you enough! Again, thank you Mr. Little
Didn't know the rule of 2, very useful to know at any time the equity of your draws!
Literally was thinking i need to improve on my poker math and this video lands... thank you :D very easy to understand aswell
Perfect timing then! Glad it helped
Thank you for labeling your sections so I can come back to my weak points easier
You're welcome, Patrick! I'm glad it helps you
Thank you! Even for super beginners the quick summary of
Are my outs (to a big hand) beating the pot odds is so valuable
You're welcome!
Jonathan - thank you for these content. Could you please suggest a study plan for an amateur tournament player with 2 years of playing experience?
This really cleared up so much that I only had a vague sense of from watching other poker videos.
I'm so glad it helped you out, Benjamin!
Jonathan, how do I know I will win 30% of the time at 2:09? Where is this number coming from?
You can ballpark your equity by using the rule of 4 / 2. Say your opponent throws out a 1/3 pot bet on the flop and you think they could have top pair and you’re sitting with a flush draw. You need 25% equity to call (not factoring in implied odds), and your flush draw gives you 9 outs so that’s 36% equity assumed making the call profitable. However, if he has a set then your equity greatly reduces because you have to remove an out and then reduce your equity because they have a draw to a boat if you hit your flush. This is why it’s important to calculate your equity versus their entire range but it’s a little complicated and this explanation is fine for the sake of understanding the concept.
Why do I need 25% equity if my chance of winning by calling a bet is 1:3 or 33%?
The rule of 2 isn’t super accurate as there are 44 cards left HU so to convert to percentage (14/44)x100= 14x(100/44)=14x2.27… so better approximation would be multiple by 2 and a quarter or 28+14/4=28+3.5=31.5% is much closer to the equity you have. Still a fold but a 3.5% difference is pretty substantial.
You said multiply by 4 when opponent go all in on flop and multiply by 2 when u r on turn.
But what if opponet bets on flop and turn too?
So here on flop to turn we have to multiply by 4 or 2 ? Ad turn to river bet still to come.
Thank you, Jonathan. I was going to write a message to you on X to ask for maths content, but you read my mind and beat me to it!
Do you have maths quizzes/courses/classes/challenges/homework, on premium poker coaching?
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Thank you for using the word "Math" not "Maths" l went to Math class when I was in school!
I lived the mathes classes…hatesd statistics
Did you not go to English class?
This is cash game related. I think it’s definitely for tournament play
Sometimes I wonder how clever other people are in maths 😢 . How I thought this works is this: let's say big blind is 10 dollars. There are 3 players in front of you all put in 10 d. So 30 d. Your turn. You have AKs. You call with 10, pot 40 d. Flop comes J24, nothing for you, not even suit. Someone raises 20. Two other calls. Your turn. Should you a) fold b) call c) raise ? Because the procents don't really tell me anything. These kind of cards are the worst there is.
U shouldn't be calling with ak you should be raising 3x plus 1 per limp and just because you have ace high doesn't mean the board is bad for you. Any face card is good for the preflop aggressors range, so you bet 33% on flop
The easy math should be like this: what pot odds should I call on flop, turn and river with
- a gut shot
- flush draw
- flush draw & gut shot
- flush draw & OEST
- full house draw (set/trips/2 pair)
etc
This kind of math is way easier to remember. The main mistake people do is paying too much for a weak draw/
When you know these odds more or less, you will win more than lose.
For example, I often call or re-raise with a top pair on FD flop because I know there is only 36% chance to complete the flush. Is some countries people love to go all in with FD and no connection at all. So, learn the habits at the table and it would be easier to win.
why does this guy talk pause ? sort of like talking but slowing down in a way every time ?
Not explained very well…. said this before, but you sound like you read out of a text book verbatim
Those who can't do, teach. One WSOP bracelet. Really? Learn the game.
Why the hate brotha
Who’s hurting you?
Go be an asshole on a political website. We’re trying to get better at poker!
Thank you, Jonathan!
I’m sure you got multiple wsop bracelets then…
Somebody get this guy a warm blanket and cocoa.
It’s not that I don’t wanna do the math. It’s the fact that other people sit there doing the math thinking it’s ok to make the rest of us at the table to wait 10 minutes for a dumbass to make each and every decision. It’s so bad these days I literally give a player 2 or 3 minutes and then I call for a clock. Should not take 15 minutes to think out a $15 pot. If you’re all in I’ll give you an extra minute or two but that’s it.
Oh, for sure. If folks are trying to math during every round of betting it’s going to piss a lot of people off. Rule of thumb, you need to practice until you can do all of these calculations in under a minute. Probably, 30 seconds if we are being honest.
And for the love of god, stop doing this in friendly cash games if you’re taking a year and a half to make a move. Fast way to lose friends.