Who is the Better Wrestler? - Kevin Nash or Logan Paul
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- After Kevin Nash complained about Logan Paul not being one of the boys, Logan Paul responded that he was one of the best wrestlers in WWE despite being a part time wrestler. Is he right? Stevie Richards takes to the smart board to answer the question scientifically once and for all.
From The Stevie Richards Show Episode 12 - Who is the Better Wrestler? - Kevin Nash or Logan Paul
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I'd give Logan Paul a 10/10 for scamming people.
Maybe not take advice from people on youtube
I mean, if you were taking financial advice from Logan Paul you should have seen that coming. Ironically the scam was something he lost money on too because he was dumb enough to put his name behind and money behind a project run by career criminals.
Get over it
If your dumb enough to invest in a crypto a youtuber promoted its on you
He still gets a 10...@@ZartanDread
@@ZartanDreadso why should I take your advice? 😅
A lot of people mistake the ability to perform backflips and somersaults with wrestling ability.
Tearing quads isn't ability
@@chrischar9428 it's part of the job. Have Logan Paul flip and flip around 200+days a year and see how long he lasts without his body breaking down.
@@chrischar9428yeah and Nash can still walk at his age. Logan Paul is going to have all sorts of problems.
Logan does all or the nuances between moves as well, he plays to the crowd all the time and he sells as well.
Logan is better than
Some of the best wrestlers don't draw and guys that can't wrestle will draw. Such a weird business and I love it.
Very simple: charisma draws money
The best wrestlers draw. EVERY TIME. No way around it.
@@TheSeraphNetworkRegal is a fantastic wrestler. Not a draw.
@@Mechachu Regal IS fantastic. But the best wrestlers are able to grab their audience on the mic, or with in ring psychology. It's why guys like Bryan and Punk drew DESPITE being held back by their own brand.
Nash has way too many 10s, Stevie.
I agree he's better than Logan Paul, but Nash was always incredibly mid.
Yeah, I'd agree with you. Nash has presence, look and some promo working ability but that's it. He isn't a draw by himself as proven by the fact that he wasn't when he could have been, and his ring work is OK. It's never bad! But it's never great either.
I never had a problem with being a 10/10 wrestler
potato goblin agrees with most but stevie took a minute trying to explain what nash is and acted like logan is hard to define. 'arrogant and horrible social media influencer who is also an unreal athlete" done. it really isn't hard. Logan is one of the most easily defined wrestlers today
Bro.. Nash was carried by Hall, Hogan, Shawn, and Hunter.
I dare anyone to talk about that classic Nash match. You can't think of anything but Nash booking Nash to ruin the Goldberg run. You can't think of anything other than him cutting 40 min promos and 2 min matches.
It's interesting to hear from a worker because as a fan, Nash was never a 10 in anything. 10 for promo?
With that said, Logan isn't really a wrestler. He's a wrestling influencer...
Some biased being shown for Nash, I suppose probably because Richards has some kind of relationship with him.
Face Nash - 5
Wrestling Nash - 7
Wrestling Paul - 7
Selling Nash - 4
Selling Paul - 6
Promos Nash - 6
Promos Paul - 4
Physiology Nash - 7
Physiology Paul - 4
stevie richards destroyed his credibility giving kevin nash a 10 in wrestling ability. a 10 means its not possible to be better. bro whaaaaaaaat the f
I take that 10 as hes performing to the best of his ability, hes not saying hes as good as benoit or something, you dweebs take that way too seriously.
He is comparing him to Logan Paul.
Nash should get a 5 or 6 for wrestling. He’s pretty average. That doesn’t mean he’s not better overall than Logan Paul.
I rate your comment 1/10
Nash was far from a garbage wrestler, his punches elbows knees sideslams Big Boot Jackknife ANYTHING he did his facials were very believable he looked like he was trying to hurt his opponent without it being hokey. That's a skill not many can pull off, Test might've been the closest I've seen but that's still wasn't near Nash intense offense.
Logan Paul is generic asf. Nash is a legend.
I appreciate both Stevie’s generosity and James’ professionalism here.
I think it’s the mark of every good internet host that works with wrestling talent to sit back and let them speak.
But I think it’s really cool that Stevie recognizes that James really has done his homework and has a lot of knowledge and study of the wrestling business.
Both are humble men trying to build the other up.
Logan Paul is more skilled at wrestling his fans out of their money
Paul is going to head to the woods shirtless again and cut a promo on Stevie if he sees this video. James knew!!🤣
“I never had a problem with Logan“
I think I can see why Stevie gave Kevin a 10 in wrestling (and it has a lot to do with psychology) on two related fronts:
1) he wrestled like how in your mind's eye you feel like he should've wrestled. Compare that to Brian Cage who looks like he should be power moving everyone in existence yet he grew up a fan of Jeff Hardy and it shows. It's impressive to see, sure, but it is like Leia floating through space back to the ship. It kills the suspension of disbelief a bit as it forces you to think about it because it is outside of what you're expecting and that makes working the audience harder because now the audience is thinking instead of just accepting what is happening as it is presented as.
2) Kind of an extension of 1, but everything looked bruising, everything was about driving the air out of a guy to finally put them away with the powerbomb (another move that in theory is about winding someone). Would it make sense for Kevin to do a crossface? Would a moonsault from the top rope work for him? Look at Bret Hart's move set: the vast majority of it was either to bring you down (russian legsweep), keep you down (elbow from the middle turnbuckle) or to soften the legs up a bit (figure four around the ring post).
Bret Hart needs a more varied and technical move set because that's his thing: he's a 'smaller' guy, but he is going to methodically bring you down bit by bit. Nash's was always that he was going to use his size and strength to devastate you. They both wrestled their style perfectly because it further made you believe they were who they said they were.
pro wrestling isn't, and never was, about the number of moves you can do. Just like nobody gives Rey Mysterio crap for not gorilla press slamming people and don't call Shinsuke 1D for "strong style", Nash did exactly what he needed to in the ring to draw.
Your the ONLY comment I've come across who "gets" what Nash was doing inside the ring. Nash was far from a garbage wrestler, his punches elbows knees sideslams Jackknife ANYTHING he did his facials were very believable he looked like he was trying to hurt his opponent without it being hokey. That's a skill not many can pull off.
Did anyone notice a little bit of heat between Stevie and James in the first 3 mins
Heel turn by James incoming. They will then have a match at WM 41
Stevie is sick of James not laughing at his jokes! 😂
Kevin is the real deal, Logan bought his way into the WWE.
I haven't seen all the Nash promos, but every time I saw him in a promo against another wrestler, he got stuffed. Logan would bury him verbally. We can say Nash is a better "technical wrestler" but really it seems like favortism. From anything I have every seen from Nash it was pretty basic and didn't have a ton of story telling either. Truly, dude pretty much hung off of coat tails everywhere he went. He was always famous by association or because he was tall. Im not speaking of Paul in a sense other than a wrestler, but I guarantee if he devoted himself that guy could do any and all of this and go around many of our current talents. He has outright stuffed almost every person he has went toe to toe with verbally. Granted, that is a theoretical. Flips don't do it, right? How was his bout with Orton? Reigns? Nash was never truly that entertaining. How many of these moments were born of insane backstage politicing? Nash couldn't keep up with Rock on the mic, Punk on the mic. Larger than life, a 10? If we are talking about stature sure. But being larger than life requires more than physical height and weight. I think you're awesome, Steve, but this seems to have favortism all over it. It's cool if you don't like Logan for this that and the other, but his statement of being at this level with so little time is legit. Does he work with hbk or other great talents? Yep, sure does. But that has to be backed by their faith in his ability somewhere. I believe recently Nash made the statement that besides rehearsed matches, when the match begins in front of all those people it says something that he doesn't just fold, he takes off and does well. As a fan of over 20 years, I would snore through a Nash match, Id rather even watch Kenny, his brother. He was a part of History, he had his accolades, but it was more about Vince or Eric's favor. One thing he is good at, is being clever. Guy has a silver tongue, it made him massively successful. And no this isn't a "Oh, he's a heel, you don't like his work, see he got ya'!" This is more, I'd pull a Jim Cornette and change the channel. Kane was similar, but he kept up intrigue with personality. Want to talk about a big man that could move? Glen Jacobs put Nash to shame.
No disrespect meant to Logan, who I think actually is far more than just a guy who does acrobatics -- he gets the psychology, he's a great heel, and has had really good ring awareness. But he's not and never will be as important to wrestling as Kevin Nash. Nash not only was a great big man during his era, but told great stories in the ring. He started the NWO, for Christ sakes, and wrestled the Undertaker at Wrestlemania, and held tag team gold with Shawn Michaels, etc. As good as Logan is he's never surpassing that.
Better wrestler Logan obviously
More legendary Nash obviously
Unless Paul turns this into a full gig which he won't he'll never catch Nash when it comes to accomplishments
Nash is going to lose it when Logan main events Wrestlemania.
Logan is only a good heel and athletic, but Nash is one of the laziest workers of all time, 4 moves and a jack knife
Nolan Ryan only had a fastball....so what
you know, its kinda genius because then its not hard to remember how to put a match together when you got 4 moves. i just think its very funny that is an argument he tried to pull like he was Bret Hart in the ring or something.
@@DougluvsJesusNolan Ryan had a disgusting curve and a good straight change too.
@@teclishighloremasterofhoet7488 yeap Maddox had 7 pitches but both guys were good
Kevin Nash was a huge superstar and made a lot of money despite being a garbage wrestler. Logan Paul is a huge superstar, makes lots of money in various ways and not just wrestling, and is a very good wrestler.
You forgot to bring it full circle by calling Logan Paul a garbage human being
@@3DBrawlChannel we prefer the term "natural heel"
@@vileluca Touche
@@vileluca Him as a person is irrelevant to his skills as a wrestler, lol the only reason why most people would side with Nash is solely because they just hate Paul and their derangement syndrome can't let them accept reality that he is an incredibly talented guy independent of how your feefees feel about him.
Nash was far from a garbage wrestler, his punches elbows knees sideslams Jackknife ANYTHING he did his facials were very believable he looked like he was trying to hurt his opponent without it being hokey. That's a skill not many can pull off.
If Logan was 7 foot Nash would have nothing on him.
If Logan was 7 foot his abilities would be reduced by 70%
If you Nan had b4lls she'd be your Grandad? What's your point?
How is this even a comparison
Gonna have to disagree on Logan’s psychology. He knew enough to see ray short changed his moonsault off the rope and dove forward to catch him to make sure he didn’t break his neck.
That had zero to do with psychology.
That's an example of in-ring awareness. In-ring psychology is a different thing, has more to do with the ability to tell a story within the match.
Stevie Richards looms like Wrestling Jesus.
Uhh Nash a 10 for wrestling/ring general? I don’t know about that. Kinda can’t take this seriously just for that alone
Obviously Nash is the better wrestler but achieving full potential, Nash; 3/10
Yeah cause the NWO and Wolfpac didn't almost put Vince out of business
disagree completely. logan paul is the better wrestler by far.
@@gothard5not even close
@@gothard5 Logan is a better athlete and has way more charisma, but his technical wrestling skill is still pretty poor. He couldn't go out and just have a match without months of prep.
What you mean Nash didn't reach full potential? Nash and Hall (more so Nash was the bigger 🌟) those two guys are the reason wrestlers get guaranteed contracts to THIS DAY!!!
Not even close. I'd give Nash the edge in every category except for athleticism and being a heel. His douchieness shines through like a beacon.
I feel like “Larger Than Life” is a given between an average sized person and KEVIN F’ING NASH!!!
Kevin Nash a 10/10 for wrestling? HOW
Compared to other 7 footers, he was amazing. The only big man that I would say was better was the undertaker. You might be able to put Kane and sid vicious up there as well
You clearly didn't watch the whole video
@@joshuaham5202 He received a mega push in WWF and WCW but personally I never enjoyed a Kevin Nash bout. He had a good look that's all
10 for Nash promos is also a bit of a stretch.
His early work before he went back to WCW and started the NWO was fairly good. Don't know about a 10. Solid 8 for sure but after he became a made guy it's a 6
Memorable moments out of the ring. Nash 10/10 played Super Shredder and The Russian. Paul 0/10 made profit off of peoples' suicides.
Nash 2/10 Fingerpoke of Doom. Paul 5/10 colliding with Richochet at the Royal Rumble.
Nash 8/10 became the hottest thing in the business by becoming the first person to win a World title in seconds
LP 6/10 earned respect by becoming the first outside "celebrity" to go toe to toe with a World champion..
Logan paul couldnt dream of doing what kevin nash has done lol
Paul is better , nash can be beaten by a finger poke.
Don’t care for either to be honest rather watch a Stevie Kick
Nash gets a 0/10 for supporting Kamala Harris Logan gets a 5/10 for fairly interviewing Trump on his podcast.
Big Stevie Cool putting over his dad Big Daddy Cool
More like who is the bigger A**hole? I agree with you, Stevie, their sudden F-bomb riddled feud definitely sounds like a work. And yes, Paul's response to Nash is easily his best promo ever. Kayfabe or no fabe, Logan's a born heel. Although I can see Nash being nice to you, Stevie, he often comes off as just an out of touch bitter jerk. Just sayin. Not you, though, Stevie! Much love & appreciation to you and James, you guys are awesome. Looking forward to all your shows! 😃
You bringing up Diesel as Nash being a Babyface, Stevie you was in WCW when Nash was probably the #2 Babyface in the company once he turned Wolfpac his arena pop's from like 97 to 2000 were stuff of legends. Let me finish by saying Nash was booked to beat the undefeated streak of Goldberg and fan's accepted that (revisionist history hasn't been kind to Nash but in the moment he was a fuxxin 🌟)
Kevin Nash isn’t even the best big man wrestler he was just apart of an iconic faction
Agreed
Part of an iconic faction?? We ain't talking about fucking Scott Norton here!
A part
A bunch of young kids who watched WCW on the network in 06 😂 Nash was HIM in WCW he ended the undefeated streak of Goldberg for fuxs sake's and the crowd ate it up. Listen, revisionist history hasn't been kind to Kevin Nash he's always being buried in Forums reddit etc but that's because of the finger poke of doom which was HOGAN'S play to take the belt back from Nash, Kevin just beat Goldberg his hands were tied when Hogan put the FPOD in play.
Logan paul can be wwe champion tommorow and i wont bat an eye
Logan Paul is better
Oddly enough they actually have something in common, and that's the way they were introduced to the business.. neither was brought in as a trained guy that was told how to properly work matches..
But while Logan will never be equalled to a Bob Backlund a Bret Hart a Steven Regal or a Chris Benoit, he shows a kind of passion and interest to make his mark in the business in a way that Nash never once did..
If Logan had entered a proper wrestling school, he just might had already excelled like Randy Orton..
What is wrong with James JFC.
Smart. Never thought of KN on physcology but SR nailed it. SR is right
Booking goes to Logan Paul tho. He hasn't killed any company's with his booking.
If Logan just stopped scamming people, gave up the his silly "selling cheap crap" business and dug deep into wrestling full time; he could become a main-eventing wrestling legend. He annoyingly has the knack for this.
That's not where the money is though, and that's all he cares about.
James behavior is weird sometimes. He should have gotten more involved with Stevie on this. Yes, he's the Narrator of sorts but still
I think he just doesn't want to interject himself as a "star" of his programs, which i understand and appreciate but i enjoy hearing his viewpoints too.
This was such a good video. On paper this is a ridiculous comparison however the conversation and the analysis was so good it kept me engaged. I would have liked to see more participation from James on his opinion for each category with the permission from Stevie.
Also, you really think Nash gets more attention at the airport or anywhere else than Paul?
Nash sold the finger poke of doom so….
I would pay to watch Kevin bash wrestle than Logan Paul..
Paul is also a boxer. Shoot on him at your own risk
The problem I have with Logan Paul being in WWE is that he is not a good influence for kids. I get that many wrestlers arent great role models. But most wrestlers are only known by the fans for their in ring persona. But Logan is a terrible person publicly outside of his wrestling persona.
Don't forget Nash being in many movies, including Ninja Turtles 2 as Super Shredder (there should be a category up there for film roles or something). Logan Paul has only a handful of film roles..none which are memorable..so even in film Nash has more points!
Wrestling for Nash being a 10, I think for his size in the 90s-00s he did everything a big man would do and I think that's how Stevie is looking at it rather than comparing it to todays big men.
Better wrestler? Kevin Nash. Bigger star? Logan Paul. Most likable? Neither.
ps. I’ll actually give Kevin Nash the slight edge in likability, as i could probably semi enjoy an hour long steak dinner with him, if the steak was great. No steak is worth sharing an hour of Logan Paul’s time.
@@SCUBAsTeEb22 paul was a bigger wrestling star then nash? who was a multiple time world champion who is still talked about 30 years later? what is this comment
@@tormmac notice how I intentionally omitted the word “wrestling” before the word star…
@@tormmac but go ahead, if you wanna try and argue that kevin nash is more famous than logan paul 🤷
Logan paul is a better wrestler than Kevin Nash by far. Logan Paul is a better wrestler than most wrestlers out there.
Nash is better in almost every way let's move on 🤷🏻♂️
not comparable a retired icon vs a total noobie
5:34 I AM THE TABLE!!! 😂
Logan Paul one word. Infuriating. Big Kevin Nash in one word. Intimidating
Logan Paul is far more athelticly gifted and trust me I can not stand Logan Paul but I still dislike Nash more.
Say what you will about Nash, and I usually do, but at least he actually had some ring time
Can you do this for more wrestlers? It doesn’t always have to be comparing 2 or more head-to-head; just seeing all of their stats individually is fascinating. I will pay for such a recurring series!
Three Way match Stevie, Nash, Logan make it happen
social security on a pole was pretty funny
Would Logan Paul job to a poke or the dnc? Nothing to see here folks.
Also - Imagine Prime Kevin Nash in current WWE. He would be AMAZINGGGG, way bigger than Logan.
Why did James drop off the ring apron and avoid the hot tag here?
Like a snooker or pool player
He can a very complicated shot
But couldnt explain how he does it
Big kev is like the oppisate
He could explain how to do a complicsted but physically hes limited in that way
Hes not physically csuse hes nassive
Bit like basketball even tho i dont even play
Id just boucne the ball through big kevs legs round the other side of him
Straight up try an dunk it ..but im to small
Stevie Richard's is better than both
In terms of ability its also different, Kevin is a legend but i do think no matter how contorversial he is Logan derserves his due, really enjoyed his match against Seth at WM last year 🤟🏼🔥
His fake fighting skills doesn’t overshadow what a sack of garbage he is. Mark
Wrestler? Probably Logan. Im not sure Kevin is a real shooter, although im not looking to fight anyone 7' and athletic as he is. Kevin is by far the better worker, though.
Stevie your show is great, keep up the good work!
Can someone explain to me how Paul has a job in the WWE with his background of scamming children?
They fire people for failing drug tests because “it’s a bad image for children” yet scamming is fine?
Well wrestling isn't in the Cena PG era anymore, so they probably don't care. If he draws he stays.
How did he scam children?
The only scam I know of involved adults buying into dodgy block chains?
Because that’s hilarious. The kid ps that fell for it aren’t very intelligent 😂😂😂 They got EMBARRASSED
@@glennross85 He tried to make this NFT Egg game, where you buy eggs they hatch into creatures and you'd mint them and sell them. Tons of people early adopted into it by pre-buying these eggs, and the game never emerged. Logan blames two programmers he hired to work on the game who he claims ditched him and ran off with some of the investor money. A youtuber named Coffeezilla exposed this scam, and Logan threatened him, then backtracked and said he'd repay people who lost money in the investment. Cut to over a year later, he never repaid them, and then went ahead and sued Coffeezilla anyway.
That's where we are now, Logan scammed his fans, didn't repay them, sued the guy that exposed him with a frivolous lawsuit.
Nash WAS a bigger draw, now he couldn't draw flies
He’s 65 years old. Do you think before posting?
He’s 65 years old.
@@RichSmithson yes, yes i do, bret is still a draw so whats the excuse?
in terms of reach and influence Logan's got him vs his prime.
To answer your question from Al Snow its actually simple " Attention seeking Self important Charismatic Young Rich Streamer"
Million Dollar Man was a self made rich guy who basically was in wrestling for the money and fame.
Logan Paul is a modern day equivalent. Who uses the internet instead of local tv spots. If your more interested in how this carries over to his in ring performance.
Ill put forth the effort to explain how theres actually more crossover than you might think at first.
Who is the better wrestler? Wrestling is a business, so it's essentially who was the bigger draw. You can technically be the best wrestler in the ring, but if no one sees you, then it's like the analogy of if a tree falls in the woods, and no one is around, does it still make a sound?
yes because if you are a danger to your coworkers you won't have a job
Kevin Nash a 4 out of 10 for wrestler he’s too big
Stevie do a line before this vid 😂
Dr Nash in TNA trumps anything Logan Paul does in wrestling!
I think Stevie is still a little scared of Nash for the Big Stevie Cool gimmick. LOL
Syxx and Hall >Nash
damn james everything cool?
Babyface champions go stale and Hogan is the exception?
Err. No. Sammartino, Backlund and Bret Hart would say differently. Austin too.
The reason babyfaces often go stale isn't the wrestler. It's the writing and it's easy to write a chase.
Logan Paul would be a jobber on Superstars or Wrestling Challenge getting jack knifed by Diesel after a minute and twenty seconds.
I rather watch Nash and his quads any day
Stevie is obviously scarred of Nash. These numbers are far too inflated.
Stevie was literally in the BWO where he was a knock off of Kevin Nash.
Ever stop to think that maybe Stevie has been a huge fan of Nash for 30+ years?
Is James grumpy here or what? Weird
I rather choose a bad leader in wcw than a legit scammer irl.
Why even mention ring general for this criteria. Nobody thinks Paul could call a match. You still have to DDP level choreograph every match Paul has ffs.
dr stevie
Nash has too many 10's! 😆💯
Im sorry but no.
Logan Paul cand do better stuff, has great selling, can tell a story and his in ribg psychology is pretty solid. Also, he draw money, and last SummerSlam was for sure the best match of the card.
Dont let the "back in my time" get you, Stevie
Nash
Oh gosh.
I mean Nash has presence, a look and at least what he does is clean.
Logan Paul might... miiiight be good but he needs about five years of wrestling regularly to prove to be the draw Big Sexy is.
Ronda proved the same. In her first couple of matches she looked like a star but as Ronda now says, they were carefully choreographed. When she became regular, we could see what the Emperor's New Clothes actually were. I reckon Logan Paul is at this time the same - a few carefully choreographed matches and a bit of support, a good wrestler doth not make.
Also darn this video for making me defend Diesel in any capacity.
😕
Nash !
Story over !!!