Dude it's such a fucking coaching gap. C9 has clearly such mechanically skilled players, but the vision and identity that Mithy has for this team absolutely blows. His drafts have sucked, and his inability to foster team play and coordination from some of the most mechanically skilled players in na has been infuriating to watch. I wanted to see C9 really impress this split, but can you imagine if we sent a team that insists on playing this way to an international tournament? Really glad they lost despite being a huge fan of many of these players
@@xAVACx but hen why did so many of the casters call this C9 team the "super group"? i heard it alot this split and even in game one they said it, i also think they said it in game two. so to say "Thats them playing as expected." doesnt seam right. maybe to some fans that hate them but i dont think that is what the majority thought.
Tell me about it. As a C9 fan, my eyes are hurting watching 3 full games of them struggling. Well, I hope next year they're still together. Maybe that time they already harmonized as a team. Right now is still a mess. Berserker and Vulcan need to reconnect. Fudge should expand he's champ selection coz seems like he's always out of option. Blabber and Jojo needs to coordinate more. Blabbers gameplay is affected exponentially because of this. Respect to TL, dominated C9 through 3 games.
@@zerodawn09 they were expected and built to be a super team... them playing as expected is because all year, they've been playing like this. the most recent cloud9 video shows berserker calling out Jojo for just not caring and inting in scrims all the time. it shows in every game they lose that jojo is a problem. shut him down and he freezes up and can't perform. its not a good look
This was like watching an Academy team playing professionals. JoJo is not the fit for this team. Since he arrived the synergy has just been chaotic at best.
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I think the main issue in this series is their pick-ban and lack of plan or at least a lack of a good plan. It feels to me like the coach is not on the same plane as C9's players. It feels like they are being forced or asked to play in a style that is not how they are comfortable or would prefer.
Pushing out the Lane and Healing up probably, maybe get the Tower and the access to the Enemy Bot Jungle around the Drake. Not a bad move to get some Tower Gold, this was not on Fudge rather on Berserker
@@xeagaort It's funny to see people call this roster a super team when its pieces where added in slowly over time (unlike how super teams are built by adding in a majority of players in EX: TL, JDG, VIT, and arguably GENG at one point.) All the while people saying vulcan/fudge are dogshit players and have been washed. Idk how a it's a super team with 2/5ths of the roster being dogs. Reddit tier logic and narrative.
@@shanemoore6182 The players are definitely playing poorly, but I feel like Mithy deserves a fair share of criticism as well. If you on paper have the best talent in the league, you should be able to play to their strengths. The drafts looked horrendous this series, isn't it a coaches job to find out what works optimally for the team? In every single interview I've seen Mithy can BARELY explain his thought process. My opinion obviously means nothing, but I feel like he need to go as well. I'm not sure why C9 is set on him, the dude was washed af when he left pro play (was hard-stuck diamond).
Fudge and Vulcan were good 3-4 years ago. It's time for C9 to move on and create a new face. Most players are like the meta itself. Some stay good throughout, alot just fall off slowly.
If C9 really see a future with Jojo blabber and berserker, they need a toplaner and a coaching staff. Mithy ain’t it, he was not able to improve this team despite the players at his disposal. Fudge… big yikes
So - as a 100T fan, my message to Fudge, who’s the real frauds??
Fudge definitely should get kicked. Same for Vulcan
Clown 9 FRAUD
This
Dude it's such a fucking coaching gap. C9 has clearly such mechanically skilled players, but the vision and identity that Mithy has for this team absolutely blows. His drafts have sucked, and his inability to foster team play and coordination from some of the most mechanically skilled players in na has been infuriating to watch.
I wanted to see C9 really impress this split, but can you imagine if we sent a team that insists on playing this way to an international tournament? Really glad they lost despite being a huge fan of many of these players
ok just started the video and lucian nami? so C9 got swept right? sorry but has that combo worked more than what 10% of the time this split?
Yes it was, idk why teams still play L+N. IT even has a pretty low win rate in the LCK, I believe Deft and Guma are the only adc’s who have won a game
I was surprised to see it for their last game especially since they constantly lost with it. Setting themselves for failure in draft
As a proud jojo hater, today couldn’t be any better
I'd hate to be a door anywhere near Berserker rn
Yeah I'd be mad playing far below my expectation too
@@shanemoore6182 yea cause he was def the problem these last two series 🤡
when are the finals tomorrow? what hour
Bro wtf was C9 this year lmao. Painful to watch
Thats them playing as expected.
@@xAVACx but hen why did so many of the casters call this C9 team the "super group"? i heard it alot this split and even in game one they said it, i also think they said it in game two. so to say "Thats them playing as expected." doesnt seam right. maybe to some fans that hate them but i dont think that is what the majority thought.
Tell me about it. As a C9 fan, my eyes are hurting watching 3 full games of them struggling. Well, I hope next year they're still together. Maybe that time they already harmonized as a team. Right now is still a mess. Berserker and Vulcan need to reconnect. Fudge should expand he's champ selection coz seems like he's always out of option. Blabber and Jojo needs to coordinate more. Blabbers gameplay is affected exponentially because of this. Respect to TL, dominated C9 through 3 games.
@@zerodawn09 they were expected and built to be a super team... them playing as expected is because all year, they've been playing like this. the most recent cloud9 video shows berserker calling out Jojo for just not caring and inting in scrims all the time. it shows in every game they lose that jojo is a problem. shut him down and he freezes up and can't perform. its not a good look
Need Zven again
This was like watching an Academy team playing professionals. JoJo is not the fit for this team. Since he arrived the synergy has just been chaotic at best.
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Fudge has no right looking sad and defeated like he actually fking tried to win at all.
I think he knows his career is over
I think the main issue in this series is their pick-ban and lack of plan or at least a lack of a good plan. It feels to me like the coach is not on the same plane as C9's players. It feels like they are being forced or asked to play in a style that is not how they are comfortable or would prefer.
28:30 what is fudge doing
Pushing out the Lane and Healing up probably, maybe get the Tower and the access to the Enemy Bot Jungle around the Drake.
Not a bad move to get some Tower Gold, this was not on Fudge rather on Berserker
I hope for C9 that they replace Top,Jung and Sup for the Summersplit and try to build a Team around Berserker and Jojo
"Super teams" never fail to disappoint. C9 looked horrible in almost every aspect of the game, this roster is fraudulence incarnate 🤕
Only super team to ever have success was TL 1
2019 and I swear all the LCS(including TL) is people trying to replicate that.
@@xeagaort It's funny to see people call this roster a super team when its pieces where added in slowly over time (unlike how super teams are built by adding in a majority of players in EX: TL, JDG, VIT, and arguably GENG at one point.) All the while people saying vulcan/fudge are dogshit players and have been washed. Idk how a it's a super team with 2/5ths of the roster being dogs. Reddit tier logic and narrative.
@@shanemoore6182 The players are definitely playing poorly, but I feel like Mithy deserves a fair share of criticism as well. If you on paper have the best talent in the league, you should be able to play to their strengths. The drafts looked horrendous this series, isn't it a coaches job to find out what works optimally for the team? In every single interview I've seen Mithy can BARELY explain his thought process. My opinion obviously means nothing, but I feel like he need to go as well. I'm not sure why C9 is set on him, the dude was washed af when he left pro play (was hard-stuck diamond).
Umti ❤
He played amazing this series!!!
Happy to see success for him coming over to NA, great personality and person.
Great win. The two best teams are in the final.
Adding Vulcan to the team a good move??
Fudge and Vulcan were good 3-4 years ago. It's time for C9 to move on and create a new face. Most players are like the meta itself. Some stay good throughout, alot just fall off slowly.
If C9 really see a future with Jojo blabber and berserker, they need a toplaner and a coaching staff. Mithy ain’t it, he was not able to improve this team despite the players at his disposal. Fudge… big yikes
Jojo and Berserker, kick Blabber out with Vulcan and Fudge and Mithy
C9 Trade Vulcan for Huhi!
C9 desperate Kamikaze Speed-up Chaaaarge! draft.
send it
C9 needs to get rid of coach, Jojo and Vulcan
Smithy is horrible at drafting and Vulcan is straight trash
Zven we need uuuuu
Top gap xdd
Bro fudge is just bad and always has been.
He’s so dog shit. Did he win lane at all this split?
delusional
@@shanemoore6182 he is bad.... you can tell by his gameplay when its not going to be his way he immediately turns into a pouty child
@@shanemoore6182fUdGe FaCtOr
C9 hasnt been decent since Sneaky
The fuck are you on about, they have won multiple times since zven replaced him
It's pretty clear the mid is the problem. This was very out of character for C9
Huh? I say too is always gapped every single game. Only time it’s ever even too is if blabber babies too
it's jojo. A top performing mid laner for two years. Give him another split. Such an over reaction.
nah blaber is a big problem as well