Aspartame: The Surprisingly Interesting Science and History (Episode 116)
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- Опубліковано 18 лип 2023
- Greg and Lyndsey dive into the history, conspiracies, science, and media coverage of aspartame to present a thorough overview of the recent WHO reports linking aspartame and cancer risk.
Is this one of the longest "podcast episodes" ever? Probably. But it's packed with fascinating history, relevant research breakdowns and media criticism, and takeaways for interpreting and navigating our society's abundance of health warnings.
TIME STAMPS
9:43 History of artificial sweeteners preceding aspartame
1:02:35 The very sketchy approval process for aspartame and subsequent media coverage
3:17:50 Breaking down the World Health Organization's decision to classify aspartame as "possibly carcinogenic"
4:24:27 The fallout from the WHO's classification
5:22:04 Closing thoughts
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SOURCES AND LINKS
Intro
Greg's recommendation: Factor meals (www.factor75.com/)
Lyndsey's recommendations: Sturdy Girl Club stand-up series (www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001...) and Casey Johnston’s newsletter “She’s a Beast” (www.shesabeast.co/)
WHO Reports
WHO: Aspartame hazard and risk assessment results released (www.who.int/news/item/14-07-2...)
The Lancet summary: Carcinogenicity of aspartame, methyleugenol, and isoeugenol (www.thelancet.com/journals/la...)
Full source list
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You two have just released a 5.75-hour-long public-service announcement, and I really hope a significant chunk of the public actually hears--and listens to--it. Even kinda wish it woulda gone on longer! I, for one, genuinely appreciate it, and I appreciate this program. Thank you!
I remember when I first came across the sbs podcast and thought "seems cool but no way do I have time for two-hour episodes"... Now I'm here, having listened through all the episodes, giggling out of the joy of seeing the episode length :'D
I am all here for an almost 6 hour podcast. That's my gym & run listening sorted for the week 😀
yeh, that is what I was just thinking after... it'll probably take me 9 days though... but maybe I should keep my facetious comments (probably only facetious to me) to myself.
Okay. Good aspartame audio book. Thanks. Cleared up a lot for me.
Fantastic. But for brevity can you try to keep the podcasts under 5 hours 40 minutes please 😉
I'm glad I get to comment first. Please can you guys make a longer episode, UA-cam algorithm loves long content. ♥️
2 hours in... but it is past my bed time... very engaging so far! But I've got to sleep......zzZZZ
I have a very long day in lab today, and a ~6H long podcast discussion on aspartame led by Greg and Lyndsey is exactly what I need.
Some people would say that this is a monster episode.
Finally a podcast adequate for extensive cardio sessions.
Literally just here after listening to the beginning of the next episode to drop a comment that I was a huge fan of this episode. No, I'm not expecting more six hour episodes. Yes, I appreciated the hell out of it and am grateful there was even one episode that long. 😂
Learned a lot about the nuances of, frankly, science communication and what "possibly carcinogenic" even means and that JECFA is essentially the public facing equivalent. (I was also zero percent concerned about artificial sweeteners anyway though so not somebody that needed persuasion. Clearly, I need education though.)
It took me 4 training sessions to finish this episode but I just wanted to say that I loved it, thank you for all this work ❤
What an excellent episode. Loved the deep dive / historical background, and didn't feel like it was too long (just took a couple long car rides to finish).
Would love to hear other episodes on sweeteners. Of course now that I feel safe eating Aspartame, it's been phased out of many foods (is erythritol going to give me a stroke?). I couldn't find JECFA positions on many of the big ones, and I'm curious what kind of data is out there.
Just listened to the whole episode. It was a good day!
I just bought 4 x12 packs of Dr Pepper Zero and mixed it with Jack Daniels last night 😂 cheers! Thanks for the very interesting episode
The Hardcore History of Aspartame
Thought it would last me all week... Listened to 2 hours this morning alone 😅
Waiting for the tldr
This is the tldr.
Is there a TLDW?
I just finished a ~6 hour podcast on Aspartame.
I don't even consume beverages sweetened with Aspartame.
Send help
(btw Lyndsey is a really good co-host even if I will miss Trex)
I would 100% of said to the flight attendant "cancer please" and held eye contact until I got the sweetener. absolutely wild behaviour from someone at work haha.
We need ALLOT more time stamps😂
Not sure how I feel about Greg calling me a sick f-ck, but this was a really good listen overall. Thanks.
aight imma head out
So the takeaway is the usual: just drink water if you're worried, but sugar or artificial sweeteners in moderation is probably fine? Sigh, nutrition science remains the most confusing.
For the algorithm
🔥🔥🔥
Wow. Any way to know if it is safe or no? 5H is crazy
Can you do a podcast episode on the hysteria around EMF radiation?
I hold my nose and drink 2-3 cups of V8 tomato juice every day, mostly to bolster my potassium intake. I get the Spicy Hot version and also add some scorpion pepper hot sauce.
As a professional chemist. i can state unequivocally that a proper double-blind study is immune to who the Hell pays for it. Please note that all studies are not done "properly" and are therefor suspect for technical reasons. As a researcher who has done studies for Monsanto, let me assure you that I took extra care with structuring the research to avoid any possibility of influence and/or bias from anyone, including mytself. That's called "Ethics."
near 6 h ... its like animal farm
after the revolution the workers are worked to death
and i aprove
amazin
This raises the question about the labrats to me if it's not malicious altering of the results or a really hard outlier or mistake in the study. You know the scandal about how the science community fucked up and for I think decades the labrats had all been from basically the same source that wasn't necessarily without questions regarding research results. Could that have been affecting studies performed on things like aspartame?
Why are all these articles about aspartame from people in completely different fields than let's say nutrition scientists?
Wait how does "artificial sweetener sodas don't reduce weight" pass the sanity check? Like ok if the intent is to say that if a person who doesn't drink sodas drinks artificial sweetener sodas, then that is true. But on the other hand what is relevant is those obese people who consume 1,5 litre bottles or more a day, I find it extremely unlikely that if they drank that amount in artificially sweetened drinks, they wouldn't reduce weight. And control should obviously be that they don't increase calorie intake due to not getting calories from the soda.
Btw you really, really want to put chapters to this episode. Like referring to or replaying parts and topics in almost 6 hour episode is kinda tough.
One caveat to the organic farming. If the farmers didn't do massive monocultural farming, they wouldn't have the problem of massive pest feasts on the entire crop. They also wouldn't be in equal risk of disease wiping their entire crop. They would have their farm full of creatures that prey on the pests of the crop. They'd also have more fertile soil. But that efficiency of farming does require non-organic fertilizing, creating organic fertilizer is too slow and takes too much space and material.
HEY NOW, I love Pepsi and I think it's better than Coke!
tldr
Tl;dl
T-Rex ain't joining in? damn :(
Did you listen to their last episode?
@@TRXSTA38 No, what did I miss?
Yeah what happened, i didnt get it
Trex is no longer with SBS. He took a position in Pontzer's lab. Thats why there was a longer break.
@@TheGreektrojan weird, they had this podcast really rolling
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