@@JQR.This makes me realize that it would of been WAYYYY faster to make this a playable game rather than individually place every single frame. I enjoyed this obviously, it's just kinda tragic you had to go through so much effort...
That's basically the best way to describe both attacks, for the weather one the order of attacks are actually meant to be randomised too just to make it more hectic (though you wouldn't be able to tell since it only happened once)
When the final attack came, my brain autogenerated this line (meaning I came up with it on my own): BIG [DEALS] BIG [[SHOTS]] IT'S [REEL], KRIS!!! IT'S EVERYTHING I GOT!!!!!!!!!!
I love that despite how different this whole fight is, it still embodies the entire message deltarune is trying to send. No matter how you go about it, Spamton ends up meeting the same fate. It's beautifully tragic, in a way. The entire fight is also SO game-accurate! I feel like someone could convince me this was from some unused Deltarune Hard Mode
Yes! Exactly! It wouldn't make much sense, just logically or narratively, if anything were to change just cause of an extra bonus fight. He'd still have his arc end the same way, cause as you said, Deltarune's whole message is that 'Your choices don't matter.'
@@JQR.Honestly,i'll call bs on that Your choices don't matter is Deltarune's kill or be killed. It's pretty obviously gonna be subverted In fact,it's already been,with snowgrave n' all
@thatoneundertalefanatic Yes, sure, but you aren't making the choices per se. You're manipulating Noelle to make and do the choices for you which is basically a loophole for the whole "'YOUR' choices don't matter". And Kris being implied to be a controlled puppet just like Spamton may also show that we're making Kris do the moves, not us. Though, I don't know how to explain how Berdly literally seemingly dying from the Dark World, mirroring the light world since it's clear any damage (like when Berdly lost his ability to move his arm if choosing to fight Queen) somehow and for some reason wouldn't matter. Maybe it doesn't affect the overall plot in the end? Maybe Berdly isn't actually dead? Just a theory. Also sidenote, Susie is so far I believe the only person that doesn't obey to our commands all the time.
@@thatoneundertalefanatic Looks like the person above me beat me to the punch in the response! Pretty nicely explained too. I'd like to add though, I don't dismiss your point that the message will be subverted in the future, there is a high likelyhood that it could very well be. But as it stands now, the weird route is probably going to lead to the same ending, with only the events leading up to it being changed, thus 'Your choices don't matter." We already see this with how Kris opens up a dark fountain by the end, regardless of the route.
Now THAT is a proper Spamton EX. It's not rewarding to just kill him but going through the entire fight actually gives you a better thing, and the concept of the time limit is insane! I love that the music is not just a weirder version of Death By Glamour (unlike most Spamton EX themes) and actually sounds like a Spamton themed music. And the attacks and Spamton lines!! They're all so fitting with the character and just work so well. Not to mention the new ability of "ThrowString" that simply makes sense Overall this is a [[1997]]/10 concept, perfectly made and frankly with the issues you've had, this turned out insanely amazing. Be proud!!
I agree with you on the music, ever since I heard the wicher's track of it I could imagine the whole battle play out in my head, before I even started work on this mind you! I had a few other songs that I kinda wanted to use before that but this was the best fit, I think! As for the gameplay stuff! It honestly just made sense to have a better reward after going through the fight; as well as having the ThrowString act as option since you'd want another way to move the fight foward quick for a timed battle I'll try to be proud of it, thank you for the compliments!
Well, technically, the instakill option is there because, game design-wise, itd be unfair for first-time player to eat up an entire phase 2 by attacking spamton neo, but if you make it so that the battle ends instantly, then the first-time players still get to win the battle that they probably died a lot to, without being discouraged from FIGHTing just because sparing doesnt give you a phase 2
(Obviously this isnt a part of the actual game, but i love the instakill option because it'd show how toby fox could handle a concept like this if this was in the actual game)
@@dylanzlol7293yep, you've basically summed up the reason as to why he's a one hit, I'd also think it'd be unjust to make a player sit through another phase after they cleared one so my best solution here was to make this a sorta optional fight, that could be backed out of at any time if you were to attack
I love this so much... I was never personally interested in the concept of a Spamton EX fight, but this one was done so well that I've actually watched it through the end and liked every single bit of it. The dialogue was really good, and I liked the concept of the coasters going backwards on the rail and you having to finish the fight before the coasters get all the way back to the beginning. I also loved the attacks... This fight unironically feels like something that would actually be in Deltarune, and that's really cool.
It's definitely high praise to be compared to an actual Deltarune battle, thank you! I tried to make something believable after his whole fight whilst still being unique on it's own
@@JQR. The fight really is awesome. A lot of fanmade Deltarune fights that I've seen didn't really get the feeling of an actual in-game fight exactly right, but this one definitely fits in as something that would follow the Spamton NEO fight.
I kinda love how if you run out of time, you still get the shadow crystal, but Spamtons story never comes to a conclusion and thus you never get any of his items
For some reason, he fants before the impact. My theory is: The one who was controlling Spamton, didn't want him to win, and if the cars crashed, he would win, because he could get the soul during the time the group was passed out. but as his body was neither destroyed or disconnected, he was probably taken still in one piece to where the strings went or come from.
@@kennychico1 One thing [I CAN] say, every secret boss will return, and I don't talk about citations or references, I talk about they come back for a possible 2nd Round. I really waiting and wanting a battle where the secret bosses are in group, 3 Rounds, 2 Duos (1-2/6-7) and a Trio (3-4-5), a [MEGABATTLE], BATTLE. A OFFICIAL BATTLE EQUIVALENT TO THE "Average Sans B-... I mean Undertale Fan-Battle". I need some True Official Challenge!
Thanks a lot! When making attacks I often kept looking at his original Neo attacks to kinda base them off of, but still threw some unique ones and curveballs so it wasn't just a rehash!
Thanks a lot! When making attacks I often kept looking at his original Neo attacks to kinda base them off of, while also still throwing a few unique twists so it's not just a rehash!
I love how batshit insane this fight is, makes Spamton NEO look tame by comparison! Also, *when box Spamton?* I like the idea that if you keep trying to kill Spamton, his defence becomes so comically high you have to spare him eventually...
Im ALMOST a loss for words. This is one of the best pieces of Spamton Fan content I've EVER seen. There's just so many mechanics that are genius, and the attack patterns look so fun to play. I honestly feel like I dont know where to start. First off the music choice was thankfully pretty good, getting a proper Spamton Ex theme down is pretty hard in my opinion. Mainly because you have to either pick the route where its a hypothetical happy ending for him where EX = He's fixed and not crazy anymore. Or the more likely option where it simply acts as a follow-up to Big Shot. The design itself is what you would expect. Interesting to see the Triangle chest piece relegated to half of the chest armor, allowing for the speaker holes to make an appearance on the other pink triangle. The shoulder pads matching the NEO color scheme is to be expected. Since its Spamton, it only makes sense for them to be gaudy and rough on the eyes opposed to the sleek black ones Mettaton has. Spamtons hair cant really change too much, part of why the NEO fight worked so well is because Spamtons hair was already slicked back naturally, so it just worked having it essentially wind blasted backwards. Spamton with EX's more suave relaxed Bangs wouldn't translate smoothly, so I understand keeping it as-is. The onlyyy thing I personally don't see eye2eye on is his rosey cheeks making a comeback. I feel like they were removed for a reason on the Neo form, like Spamton cant 100% fully morph his face onto it. Its literally the only thing in this entire animation that I'm not fully onboard with, so thats GOTTA mean something lol. The Red design is such a great call back to all the fanart of people desperately wishing to see Mettaton Ex in his reporter uniform. Was absolutely thrilled to see it, even if he had no arms by that point lol. The dialogue during the fight is pretty much PERFECT. I could only imagine how freaked out Suzie and Ralsei must have been. Hey, it also makes Suzies line about the "Hands" after beating Neo make sense, since this fight now features a [Hand-Full] of 5 fingered attacks. I love the utalization of the railroad tracks by having Suzie and Ralsei get wrecked by 2 Spam-trains. The "Disco?" ball attack was so good, I loved seeing the little guy drop to the floor and walk around. Im very glad to see you make Spamton Ex have a dance and several Leg based attacks, it just wouldn't be right without them. Was really happy to see the unused pillar attacks as well towards the end there. That custom Sprite for GIGA Spamton EX is lovely as well, very interesting close up of the armor, even if its slightly modified compared to the base version... just like how NEO's was. Feels a bit Tank-like with how compressed the shoulder pads are, also the yellow heart was a very nice detail. While I fear Toby Fox may never show us what Spamton EX could have been I have absolutely 0 doubt it would have been JUST like this. Well done.
Woah, I think you've had the most to say about this fight and I admire your enthusiasm! Glad you thought the music matched up with the fight! I'd been listening to a few others before the pick but they didn't quite have the speed I wanted, still was a very tough pick though! And you basically picked apart my thought process perfectly in your design section, while talking about the hair, colours and the crude shoulder pads. Though I do get why you wouldn't be a fan of the red cheeks, I've seen a big divide over it with other people, my main reason for adding them back was simply just to make him stand out more from his previous form, though I do admit Spamton does lose a lot of the imposing nature he had in the Neo design because of them, so I can sorta agree with you there. The red design was actually a callback to mettaton's 'news reporter' outfit in undertale, with the red suit and yellow tie, in one of his segments and it's why Spamton was just reporting on a bunch of stuff during the attack. --Actually also! There was another reference with the cooking section seen in undertale, in a previous attack, the one where he's stirring a bowl and dons a chefs hat! (I was originally going to top it off towards the end with a reference mettaton's stageplay performance, when Spamton loses all his limbs, one of the possible attacks would have been him getting in a dress similar to mettaton's, but I couldn't think of a way to work it into an attack.) Good to know I somewhat hit the hammer on the head with Spamton's speech patterns as well and YES! So far I think you're the first person to call a connection between the hands attack and Susie's mention of hands after the fight, I always suspected that Toby might've developed one but scrapped it early on, making Susie's dialogue make less sense as a consequence. The attacks were something that I kinda made up as I went along, so I'm also doubly surprised AND pleased that it'd meet the standards of 'good' attacks! Lastly, Spamton's final attack sprite was probably one of the trickiest things to sprite, and not just cause it was big, but also since it had to look like his current design now while still looking like the normal Neo attack sprite! (If that made any sense), good to know he's more tank like, that was one of my aims on making him. Overall thank you for taking the time to write this, possibly one of the best things I've read as not only a critique but a deconstruction of the the video! Thank ye
I love all the cute details like: "Spamton bakes a cake with a vegan substitute." Spamton randomly throwing Noelle at you. This is a great fight. Well done.
That's rather intresting actually, since it'd be dependent on your timing in the NEO fight that'd mean that you would get some variable difficulty on thr fight itself, I really like that idea!
@@JQR. Of course, then you could sit for an hour right before finishing the NEO battle to give yourself practically infinite time. (Also, the dialogue is great, so if this ever becomes a fangame, the times should pause during dialogue so as to not incentivize dialogue skipping for an easier fight)
@@alexsieh3089Yeah that was something I realised only after I finished the animation which was annoying, since it'd be hard to go back and change something in the animation, definitely agree that the timer should stop during cutscenes!
Wait, couldnt you just do a strategy like snapping spamton's wires in phase 1 until the mercy bar is at least 93% and then kill spamton nei and snap ex's wires with everybody in phase 2?
For Undertale/Deltarune fan music, people tend to make it more epic then how Toby usually makes it, but this song perfectly slaps and sounds the same way as if Toby himself made this. It kind of sounds like “Needles in my @ss” from the Spamton restitched fangame. Good Job man. Be proud.
Thank you! Finding the best fit for music was probably one of the first things I did before even making the animation and I think that Wicher500i's track ticked everything off, glad you think so too!
I like that if the timer runs out literally the fight just ends, because the punishment is literally worst for you, dealmaker 2 would be an op item in concept given that the ex-bosses drop powerful items, so just kicking you out with no rewards only makes you waste items
Yeah that's what I was thinking! A player might also accidentally save after the fact absent-mindedly after the fact which demolishes the chances of trying over, that's the real punishment:)
I love the idea of Spamton constantly having another phase, and warning you about it. It's like UTLB but the difference is that Spamton never gets to achieve such phase. You did a great job once again JQR! I can't wait to see what else you have instore for us!
this actually looks like it was originally supposed to be part of the game but got scrapped due to unknown reasons. i love how the music sounds like an actual spamton-themed song instead of just a lazy melodyswapped death by glamour.
Heck yeah! Love the dedication you have to these concepts. It's so [[EX]]tra I love it! 1:53 Ok the way he sheds his wings is super cool. And love that warped "OH YES" sound. 2:10 Ooo the time limit is such a cool idea! Makes me think of the giga train battle from Bowser's Inside Story. Don't run out of track! 2:24 Well, you're told to change MTT to his EX form specifically because of his lesser defense. xD 2:48 Heads coming from behind is a neat way to add to the attack. Plus it makes sense since you're going backwards lol. 3:10 Let's be honest, ThrowString should have been an act in the original fight. You literally added that move this chapter as a cool minigame for CUTTING WIRES, and even used it in Queen's fight. It's right at home here! 3:40 That Spamton disco ball is so real. 4:10 Hah a vegan pipis substitute, nice callback. 4:17 Oo you even added a second check, just like for Spamton NEO! 5:22 It heals in reverse! Bet Spamton put S.Poison into that. 5:43 Oh no Spamton we're not doing the salt route again. 5:54 These animations while he talks are awesome. 6:37 Oh nice and Spamton starts losing parts EX style! It's probably pretty easy to do considering how tweened he is. xD 7:34 Suddenly Bob-omb?? 8:02 Lol nice, Spamton calling in viewers to help kill Kris. 8:48 The realization. 9:35 Lol nice the news outfit. Also holy crap this attack is insane?? 10:00 Omg the Spamtons poking their noses into the ground. 10:06 NOELLE?? 10:37 That's the coolest cungadero around. 11:48 Oh lord he's bringing out the big hyperrealistic whistle. 12:04 Is that the Omori train ambience-? OH OK 12:46 Yeah we really need that break right now. xD Like how the A falls of the sign too, like even that's broken down. 13:25 End of the line! The final attack!!! 14:54 Heh an armless ska dance like Mad Dummy! 15:13 Bruh you thief. 16:20 Ok and except for the line about getting mutilated, everything from here on is the same. 19:00 Oh RIP he really does have no defense, just friggin dies. 💀 19:26 "Do you remember what the [Voices in my head] usually say?" is such a good line lmao. And he tries to go box mode! xD 20:56 Pft and if you crash, Spamton still gets destroyed too, but you still pretty much failed and just get the shadow crystal. In general awesome fight! I think it gets a little too off the walls at points, I don't think you needed that many attacks. It feels more fitting for a hard mode. Even so, it's a really fun concept!
Another outstanding piece of work JQR. I imagine there's already a modding team chomping at the bit to turn this into a playable fight! Also yikes at Spamton stealing your health items. That's crueller than anything Toby has done to us thus far! (Bar the genocide ending in Undertale, but we kind of do that to ourselves.)
I'm flattered you think so highly of it! I've actually put a Google Drive link in the description with sound files and a spritesheet that can be looked at, in the case that people want to do just that! (Though really they can be used in any way.) Also yep, no healing towards the end was the final cruel nail in the coffin, as another extra challenge, I'd like to think that it'd be counterbalanced by the fact that Spamton would already be one or two string snaps away from the fight ending (Since you'd need to snap the strings a good bit before to trigger the heart attack.... attacks, and progress the fight onward.) That being said though, if the strings aren't snapped enough times after the 2nd heart attack and the final attack already passed... Then the no healing would almost definitely become big trouble after a few attacks!
This is soo good, real high quality stuff, the dialogue is well written, and ooo, i like the fact that the battle ends instantly if you attack again, showing that you already completed the fight with violence, and if you want to turn back from it, you'll either reload and not attack him again or try to redeem yourself by cutting the wires for the entire mtt ex fight!
Wow, this is genuinely incredible! All the attacks look great, and the final attack is incredible to! The best and most well-thought out Spamton EX concept I've ever seen. If the sprites are free to use, I'm considering at least trying to make some sort of playable fight using them, despite my admittedly bad programming skills. Keep up the good work!
Oh wow, I loved everything about this! From the fact that instead of shifting from box to ex to neo like Mettaton does, Spamton has the idea to instead try and revert that effect in hopes of defeating you, to 16:15 when the glasses are broken and reveal something terrifying, to all of Spamton's sprites, to Mettaton EX gaining all the og neo "defense"! It's all so fantastic, just wonderful job on this one 👏 👌
This is absolutely fantastic. I truly hope this gains the recognition it deserves and that your channel grows quickly. This is a very impressive display of skill.
This is amazing. Itd be cool for a tutorial for how you make these deltarune animatons from adding custom animations for pre existing spries or bullet patterns.
@@sixty5notch796Maybe! I've been considering it but I'd need to get stuff set up right though, which'd take a bit, since all my recording stuff is set to only record DeltaRune at the moment, still! Something I intend to do in the future.
Oh GOD! I LOVE to watch fight concepts and honestly people being to animate and replicate the game's movements and systems do it so good! The whole concept is GREAT! Things like the new heart-attack part, the weather report, the final attack, they all are amazing! Maintaining humor and the chaotic little [[NUMBER 1 RATED SALESMAN 1997]] It's just so well done, ignoring the fps sometimes dying a bit because well, a big project with aseprite is no joke lol This being _optional_ but giving you a better Dealmaker is so cool too! AND ThrowString, god damn it should've been on the base fight tbh AND THE TIMER MECHANIC WORKS SO WELL, GOING BACKWARDS THE MUSIC TOO FITS I can't express it enough
This is so cool!!! I love all the sprites they're all so cool! The sprites for when he dances in particular are so good!! And all the Mettaton references are so clever!!
Oh my god I love this. The Mettaton references, the music, the attacks, the dialogue! And that last Sans-esque [Special Attack] was an amazing sight to see!
Glad you do! The special attack bit was defo inspired a bit by Sans' a bit, but also from the unique interaction in the original Neo fight, if you are to get swallowed on the final attack he'll spit you back out and you'd take a bit of damage, so I decided to expand on that, literally.
Y’know, I actually was not that into a Spamton Ex concept, it just was something that struck me as easily understood. Just Spamton Neo being like Mettaton Ex, but I thought the idea was limited for some reason. I’m a bit surprised there never has been more to this concept, I’ve only saw Filament’s song video before (but haven’t watched). But Mr. JQR, this fight was spectacular. I was quite blown away lol. Such a creative boss fight, its very distinct from the Neo battle. The music is so perfect, it’s so unique and pretty catchy! Hats off to Wicher500. I really like the “clap clap” part and, being an Ex song, it also has a part of the Mettaton Ex theme: the one at 3:33 . Also, you timed that motif real well to match the moments in the fight, especially the [HANDS] moment and the final phone attack, sick. Though I have to admit, I first heard that Ex motif in Undertale Last Breath’s phase 2… so I actually am reminded more of that then Mettaton hah. I really felt all the effort put into this whole video, like every tick of the TP going up and all the motion of the attacks and how the soul moves… all made one frame at a time. It all really shows because this fight, as others have said, is so game-accurate. If there’s one thing I will say on the accuracy of all the fight mechanics, the soul shooting mechanic is different from the game: the normal shots can only have 3 bullets be onscreen and then you can’t fire (the firing speed is very fast… but maybe I just don’t mash hard enough lol). I don’t really mind, but if your looking to improve your mimicry, there’s one thing to improve on. All the attacks are so creative while still being in tune to a Deltarune fight, plus all of them are really well-designed! While the natural difficulty is tougher, it’s still easy to know how to avoid the attacks. Of course, the dialogue is impeccable and very much Deltarune. Dialogue has been your strong suit after all, it really makes this fight feel it is in the base game lol. Main thing is that Spamton just speaks in his own way about his new rad [Ex] body, right on. Here’s a highlight of everything: 2:09 Susie couldn’t have said it better lol. Normally explaining things goes to Ralsei, so it’s a fun surprise. (And it’s perfectly Susie-like lol) 3:20 oh the throw ability! And Kris that was dangerous jumping karts like that. This goes for the second time it’s used but this player couldn’t hit all four points, sucker >:). 3:44 the Disco Ball attack is so fun lol, Break it down. 4:21 two checks? Epic 5:26 hah, negative health. The successor to the S.Poison item. Mini chef Spamtons and the cake!? Crazy. 5:46 Oh, that’s real good. But maybe a [SPARE] key would work good friend? (Dancing angel Spamtons lol) 5:58 … and the hits just don’t stop. The growing hands and his shadowed face (great improvements!) just are creepy… and then we move on just like that. 6:12 Spamton’s heart is different from the main game right? It’s the mouth I think, but I like it actually. 7:41 omg Spamton Disco Ball is alive and he jumped outta there lol, get pranked Susie. 8:08 This attack is tough bro, also nice timing on the [Win, Win, Win] with Spamton’s face. And doesn’t help that… wall face laughs when you get hit, tough and spooky. 9:03 these box moving attacks are very unique. I don’t think I’ve seen that before. Dang nice kick Spam Ex lol. 9:39 the News report… okay this is epic lol. It’s very charming and crazy. The enlarged cannons at 9:56 remind me of the oversized Pipis cannon thingy in Scampton the Great lol. And it’s RNG? Dang 10:09 Noeeeellle. And Susie and Ralsei are surprised too. Does getting hit by Noelle do damage? And is damage character dependent too? Lol 10:42 the special [Cungadero]!! 11:05 [In my way] that’s a reference… Susie says this but it’s also a UT genocide quote too. 11:58 Oh a whistle- oh rip Susie and Ralsei :(. [1997!] health woah, didn’t catch that at first The final stretch bringing on another one-on-one like in the Snowgrave fight, now this is bonus fight material lol. 12:57 The personality shown just by the soul getting close to the fallen letter and the TP raising is great. 13:35- 14:53 Kris got hit by a train! And begins the final attack. This final attack is so crazy, the intensity, the dramatics lol. Nice use of the unused pillar attack and the attack itself reminds me of Cuphead and Djimmi’s section with the pillar section you got to shoot to get through. And then at the end Everyone from the fight jumps on screen, woooowww. 15:27 that’s some deserved [Salt Route] on the wound Kris, that is so devilish of that Ex guy. That is… some trick. And that line is perfect lol. I think I remember reading it in the sweepstakes, it sounded familiar here. But good thing our soul here found a safe spot for the endurance attack. 16:14 bro the hidden scary faces… and the music is timed perfectly for the attack itself. Creepy factor surpassed. The reward is the Dealmaker 2, for some reason I thought the description and money effect was the same for the first one, but it’s definitely has more [Big Shot] power. Epic, Ralsei and Susie would say the same things. The other endings have Spamton’s Ex SHAKY defense lol, and he fails to turn into a box (clever, going in reverse order of Mettaton lol). I like how Spamton raises his hands and then droops when time runs out and we all hit a wall, everything after with the carts and the atmosphere… offputtingly ominous. (Spamton is supposed to be the burnt strings? Dark… but easy to miss). The No-hit mode is funny lol, Spamton Ex is a glass railgun lol. Finally the credits :), glad to see the “YOU” lingering on. On Spamton Ex’s design, he looks more simple than I thought he would look, the shoulder pads and the central body are distinct from Neo as well as the legs and arms. I really like the rosy cheeks on Spamton as his faces in the Ex form are more jovial (his eyes being visible really add that) which works with the energetic tone of the fight lol. It also provides a contrast to when Spamton looks down and his face gets shadowed. His final attack HD form makes him imposing, to me it’s his pupils being visible again, and the cackle-his maniacal cackle. Very nice. To end, the lag I find personally appealing because it is something I find similar to playing my N64 emulator on my old windows computer (like it was a literal Windows XP I think, I don’t have it sadly :(, removing it was not my wish). It was the type of lag that to me was fun because it meant more reaction time and therefore an advantage against those cpus lol. Especially at the final attack, it looked like the player would have a harder time with these attacks if it weren’t for the slow-down lag, gotta take all the help you can get lol. Stellar video and excellent fight!
Eyy this was once again a delight to read, most of your comments really have been! A thing I really like from your thoughts is that you don't really pull your punches on the positives, but negatives also, just speaking your mind to whatever is said which I've found useful for feedback purposes and just 'cause its enjoyable to read. Anyway! To address the stuff you said... I won't lie I totally get why the EX concept wouldn't be as gripping as some of the other stuff on first glance, like you said it's a pretty straightforward thing. (And if I'm being honest, I never actually expected it to win the voting poll! I was kinda suprised honestly lele) But I went ahead with it anyway, mainly because I thought a Spamton Ex battle was pretty untapped video-wise, it *was* just something that was mentioned as a throwaway line in-game so I gets it and also because I liked the challenge of creating something with as little information pieces for it as possible, less is more as they always say! And yes definitely agree with the song also! When I first heard Wicher's music for the idea I immediately new I wanted to use it since it fit the scene which I made up in my head before I started anything, though Filament Vol's banger was a very close 2nd. Funnily enough also, a bulk of the attacks were made on a whim, instead of planned like most of the dialogues, luckily they all sorta worked well I think? I'll be taking the yellow soul shots into account for whenever it's used again in other things, I *knew* something was off about how frequent they were being shot when animating but couldn't quite place my finger on it till I'd exported the whole video as an mp4 😭. But yeah, 3 shots onscreen will be the main thing I'll try to get done going foward if there are any other lemon soul sections that I'd ever need to do For the news section the RNG would probably be pre-determined (as in there's a set amount of orders which the attack could go in just so some of them aren't completely and utterly unfaireth) and hmm, getting hit by Noelle would deal 1 hp of damage Also ye, you right! The heart attack is ever so slightly changed, I'm shocked you noticed. It's mainly just a modified mouth and I brought one of its eyes one pixel higher Also, also yis! Spamton's healing denial line is referencing one of his sweepstakes lines, (The wedding ring or heart Locket one I believe?) Anyway, yeah this guy is really just a glass-cannon, defeating him will earn you basic stuff, running out of time will earn you a whole heap of nothing, and Spamton After Not Surviving (I coulda probably hinted that he's just down on the floor as strings and some glasses a bit better), and yeah super money making machine for sparing him. Very, very, very early on when this first started it was originally gonna be much smaller in scale, the fight would consist of one reaaaally long attack, which if hit at all during it would've instantly killed the player, with then Spamton combusting from overheating due to the length of it at the end, though this was scrapped before anything was pen to paper due to the obvious issues with the idea, phew The design is something I tweaked a bunch just cause I wasn't quite satisfied with whatever I drew, the final thing you see here being somewhat an amalgamation of other designs by people which I muddled into one design, though I'm glad you think it turned out well, you're too kind! A lot of squash-and- stretch was used throughout it as you can see since I was learning how to apply it in Aesprite at the time, which found its way into a lot of Spamton's head and body movements, I'll probably pull my punches with its use in other stuff so it's not something completely overused but I really enjoyed how it looked like! A Windows XP? I find that pretty endearing actually, sorry it had to go for whatever reason. But I was also using emulators at an early age on my windows 7 as a past time, used to be great! Mainly Mario games were played, although at some point a really small unknown game was played, Mother 2 and welp.... you can see how I ended up making concepts for similar games like it ;)
There's a quick blink-and-you'll-miss-it reference to The Salt Route with Spamton losing his car keys in this! This is amazing! Aside from the colors glitches and low framerate, still very cool.
Holy [cungadero] this was just incredible. And over ~90,000 frames??? Damnn!! I love this, and wish jt was in the actual game. All the dialogue sounds like it was actually written by Toby, thats how well it fits. And the attacks, all look so fun. Espscially the "Final Attack Gauntlet" as I called it. Over all, INCREDIBLE work, dude!! PS, the joke of Spamton taking the Butler Juice when you tried to heal is absolutely hilarious, but so infuriating, LOL
@@Space_PencilNot by me necessarily, due to a lack of skill to mod, though I've put a Google doc in the description with the whole spritesheet and some sounds if anyone wants to try making one themselves!
Dude I don’t care what anyone says you are an absolute amazing UA-camr the deltarune animations you make are amazing and really creative and I really really enjoy watching never give up the grind you have WAY to much talent bro
I enjoy every [[ BIG SHOT ]] moment of this video, a tremendous [ hochi mama ] and good concept around it, truly a work of art about this [[ hyperlink blocked ]].
i have no words other than the fact that this is THE BEST FANMADE FIGHT IVE SEEN OF SPAMTON 😭 its so true to his character, and, just like multiple comments have pointed out, follow true to the message of deltarune nice work!
Honestly, I would really love this as a mod (not a fangame, but an actual mod that adds this to the base game), just because of how well it... _works._ It isn't even technically more difficult to kill him, as it only takes one attack, but it works amazingly as a "hardmode" that you can opt into, for greater reward. I also really like that if you don't defeat him in time, you don't lose, but you just don't get any gear for defeating him, so it's really high risk to try for the Dealmaker 2.
10:07 LMAO where did Noelle come from? Will her dialogue after this point (such as the ferris wheel scene) change to acknowledge Spamton throwing her at you or is that just an intentional big-lipped alligator moment for the funny?
Spamton grabbed her from her room and put her back just as fast xD And yeah, she'd most likely throw a line in about it in the ferris wheel scene at the part where she's talking about the strange happenings in her 'dream'
5:54 literally as i read the dialogue i remembered gaster is heavily associated with hands (in fanart and he does talk in hands) such a neat little detail
The attacks are amazing and thats what i expected, but the sheer amount of attention put to things like making spamton EX fall apart after touching him is so good. Its like an optional secret-secret boss that you fight only after attacking NEO. It makes this fight seem very incorporated in deltarune and the quality is on par with actual deltarune. But will this be a playable game??
I don't plan on making one as I don't have the knowledge to do so, but I've put a Google doc filled with all the assets in the vid (like sprites and sounds and such) if anyone wants to try make their own, sort depends on the people I suppose! And thank you very much also!
Yes, i think details like that are cool, like how in the weird route Berdly fight Noelle HP goes down to 55 that in roman numbers is LV, and i wanted to say that the usage of the Spamton unused attacks was also very cool 😎
I love how he's using upraged Mettaton attacks, dialogue parts and how well that pointa out that he stole that body, like when he uses the ' happy break time ' from MTT fight Also is that a Sans genocidal fight reference? 9:36 Mad Dummy fight reference? 15:00
4:38 i love how when he says "they can [killing you 1,000,000 times!]" He looks directly at the screen, almost as if the threat is meant for someone else...
I love how you kept the thing where the dialogue foreshadows the attacks Also god I had to try so hard not to laugh out loud at that “ONE [[Hochi Mama]]”
My friends showed me this and I loved it. I love the dialogue, I love the attacks. I'd gladly recreate it as a mod for DELTARUNE but sadly I can't due to my laptop dying. But, I never knew you could animate something like this in aesprite.
@@dylanzlol7293 Well my first projects kind of sucked but I'd say I'm decent at coding gml when I get good ideas of how to make things work the way i want.
Hey no sweat! The files in the description aren't going anywhere so if you ever were to get it fixed and still had the motivation, you could probably still do it if you wanted. And thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
@@JQR. I will probably recreate this in a future mod of mine since i have a mod idea thats pretty big in my opinion But don't worry I won't lose motivation as I want to atleast finish all my mods before retiring and stuff like that
8:55 I like how when he talks about the “body of his [Hopes and dreams]” having [DF: -4000] it’s a reference to Mettaton NEO having extremely low defense in the games code, so you can one shot him in Genocide.
This is a pretty well made thing! good job! Also are you ever planning on making a spamton box form video? Edit: or maybe just like a box form short or smth?
Cool
Thanks for letting me use the music! :D
cool
@@bowiethrasher220 It's called Murder By Deals
@@Wicher500i hey btw why didn't you post it on your channel I only saw it at somebody's channel but not in yours
It's such a BANGER
@@JQR.This makes me realize that it would of been WAYYYY faster to make this a playable game rather than individually place every single frame.
I enjoyed this obviously, it's just kinda tragic you had to go through so much effort...
“WHAT’S YOURS IS MINE AND WHAT’S [[Yours]] IS [[Mine.]]” is such a Spamton line and I love it, the writing in this is so good
That line was actually taken from the Spamton Sweepstakes on one of his product descriptions! I thought it was fitting enough, haha
@JQR. Thats why it fits so well, wonderfully made!
isnt that a doraemon reference now that i think about it?
@@Juan_Star....nope.
Pfffft
I love the "random bullshit go" nature of the weather prediction and final attack, I think it fits spamton quite well
That's basically the best way to describe both attacks, for the weather one the order of attacks are actually meant to be randomised too just to make it more hectic (though you wouldn't be able to tell since it only happened once)
When the final attack came, my brain autogenerated this line (meaning I came up with it on my own):
BIG [DEALS]
BIG [[SHOTS]]
IT'S [REEL], KRIS!!!
IT'S EVERYTHING I GOT!!!!!!!!!!
"DO YOU LIKE IT KRIS?
MY [Dexterity].
MY [Plan your defense].
MY [RANDOM BULL[[$%&#]] GO]."
I love that despite how different this whole fight is, it still embodies the entire message deltarune is trying to send. No matter how you go about it, Spamton ends up meeting the same fate. It's beautifully tragic, in a way.
The entire fight is also SO game-accurate! I feel like someone could convince me this was from some unused Deltarune Hard Mode
Yes! Exactly! It wouldn't make much sense, just logically or narratively, if anything were to change just cause of an extra bonus fight. He'd still have his arc end the same way, cause as you said, Deltarune's whole message is that 'Your choices don't matter.'
@@JQR.Honestly,i'll call bs on that
Your choices don't matter is Deltarune's kill or be killed.
It's pretty obviously gonna be subverted
In fact,it's already been,with snowgrave n' all
@thatoneundertalefanatic Yes, sure, but you aren't making the choices per se. You're manipulating Noelle to make and do the choices for you which is basically a loophole for the whole "'YOUR' choices don't matter". And Kris being implied to be a controlled puppet just like Spamton may also show that we're making Kris do the moves, not us. Though, I don't know how to explain how Berdly literally seemingly dying from the Dark World, mirroring the light world since it's clear any damage (like when Berdly lost his ability to move his arm if choosing to fight Queen) somehow and for some reason wouldn't matter. Maybe it doesn't affect the overall plot in the end? Maybe Berdly isn't actually dead? Just a theory. Also sidenote, Susie is so far I believe the only person that doesn't obey to our commands all the time.
@@thatoneundertalefanatic Looks like the person above me beat me to the punch in the response! Pretty nicely explained too. I'd like to add though, I don't dismiss your point that the message will be subverted in the future, there is a high likelyhood that it could very well be.
But as it stands now, the weird route is probably going to lead to the same ending, with only the events leading up to it being changed, thus 'Your choices don't matter." We already see this with how Kris opens up a dark fountain by the end, regardless of the route.
@@Pizzaface-ru8ik WE make the choice to control noelle,so she can do our bidding.
I think we're basically just agreeing here
Now THAT is a proper Spamton EX. It's not rewarding to just kill him but going through the entire fight actually gives you a better thing, and the concept of the time limit is insane! I love that the music is not just a weirder version of Death By Glamour (unlike most Spamton EX themes) and actually sounds like a Spamton themed music. And the attacks and Spamton lines!! They're all so fitting with the character and just work so well. Not to mention the new ability of "ThrowString" that simply makes sense
Overall this is a [[1997]]/10 concept, perfectly made and frankly with the issues you've had, this turned out insanely amazing. Be proud!!
I agree with you on the music, ever since I heard the wicher's track of it I could imagine the whole battle play out in my head, before I even started work on this mind you! I had a few other songs that I kinda wanted to use before that but this was the best fit, I think!
As for the gameplay stuff! It honestly just made sense to have a better reward after going through the fight; as well as having the ThrowString act as option since you'd want another way to move the fight foward quick for a timed battle
I'll try to be proud of it, thank you for the compliments!
Well, technically, the instakill option is there because, game design-wise, itd be unfair for first-time player to eat up an entire phase 2 by attacking spamton neo, but if you make it so that the battle ends instantly, then the first-time players still get to win the battle that they probably died a lot to, without being discouraged from FIGHTing just because sparing doesnt give you a phase 2
(Obviously this isnt a part of the actual game, but i love the instakill option because it'd show how toby fox could handle a concept like this if this was in the actual game)
@@dylanzlol7293yep, you've basically summed up the reason as to why he's a one hit, I'd also think it'd be unjust to make a player sit through another phase after they cleared one so my best solution here was to make this a sorta optional fight, that could be backed out of at any time if you were to attack
I love this so much... I was never personally interested in the concept of a Spamton EX fight, but this one was done so well that I've actually watched it through the end and liked every single bit of it.
The dialogue was really good, and I liked the concept of the coasters going backwards on the rail and you having to finish the fight before the coasters get all the way back to the beginning.
I also loved the attacks...
This fight unironically feels like something that would actually be in Deltarune, and that's really cool.
It's definitely high praise to be compared to an actual Deltarune battle, thank you! I tried to make something believable after his whole fight whilst still being unique on it's own
@@JQR. The fight really is awesome. A lot of fanmade Deltarune fights that I've seen didn't really get the feeling of an actual in-game fight exactly right, but this one definitely fits in as something that would follow the Spamton NEO fight.
I love how Spamton's green attack is basically just "It heals in reverse."
lol
I kinda love how if you run out of time, you still get the shadow crystal, but Spamtons story never comes to a conclusion and thus you never get any of his items
I like this interpretation of it
For some reason, he fants before the impact.
My theory is:
The one who was controlling Spamton, didn't want him to win, and if the cars crashed, he would win, because he could get the soul during the time the group was passed out. but as his body was neither destroyed or disconnected, he was probably taken still in one piece to where the strings went or come from.
@@P3dr0m4n03lthat means. he can return
@@kennychico1 One thing [I CAN] say, every secret boss will return, and I don't talk about citations or references, I talk about they come back for a possible 2nd Round.
I really waiting and wanting a battle where the secret bosses are in group, 3 Rounds, 2 Duos (1-2/6-7) and a Trio (3-4-5), a [MEGABATTLE], BATTLE.
A OFFICIAL BATTLE EQUIVALENT TO THE "Average Sans B-... I mean Undertale Fan-Battle".
I need some True Official Challenge!
@@P3dr0m4n03lwhen you grab the shadow crystal, the dialogue mentions strings on the ground, which implies that spamton is dead.
This was absolutely worth the wait; it feels like something that could've been in Chapter 2 proper. Incredible work! :)
Thanks a lot! When making attacks I often kept looking at his original Neo attacks to kinda base them off of, but still threw some unique ones and curveballs so it wasn't just a rehash!
I think how this would’ve been accessed is if the player has gotten all spamton related items and can activate it by giving the the body the snowring.
awesome concept, the fight feels canon as hell, well done !!
Thanks a lot! When making attacks I often kept looking at his original Neo attacks to kinda base them off of, while also still throwing a few unique twists so it's not just a rehash!
The attacks actually work,some of them seem like normal cyber world attacks but stronger and better, nice work on the animation!
I love how batshit insane this fight is, makes Spamton NEO look tame by comparison!
Also, *when box Spamton?*
I like the idea that if you keep trying to kill Spamton, his defence becomes so comically high you have to spare him eventually...
He evolves and adapts...
-1 item for 2 More [battle phases]. I think Toby don't accept this [DEAL]
@@P3dr0m4n03lthe item could be based on in which phase you defeat him so +1 items
@@darkduckpl9620 This [DEAL] still unaccept by Toby
@@JQR.After beat spambox
Spamtom: its time to my final [SPOOKY FORM]
When Deltarune 2 came out, I remember asking if anybody had any fan art for Spamton EX. Nobody had any.
This made my day. Thank you.
No Problem! I thought I'd do so anyway cause of the fact there wasn't anything made for his EX version
Im ALMOST a loss for words.
This is one of the best pieces of Spamton Fan content I've EVER seen.
There's just so many mechanics that are genius, and the attack patterns look so fun to play.
I honestly feel like I dont know where to start.
First off the music choice was thankfully pretty good, getting a proper Spamton Ex theme down is pretty hard in my opinion.
Mainly because you have to either pick the route where its a hypothetical happy ending for him where EX = He's fixed and not crazy anymore. Or the more likely option where it simply acts as a follow-up to Big Shot.
The design itself is what you would expect.
Interesting to see the Triangle chest piece relegated to half of the chest armor, allowing for the speaker holes to make an appearance on the other pink triangle.
The shoulder pads matching the NEO color scheme is to be expected.
Since its Spamton, it only makes sense for them to be gaudy and rough on the eyes opposed to the sleek black ones Mettaton has.
Spamtons hair cant really change too much, part of why the NEO fight worked so well is because Spamtons hair was already slicked back naturally, so it just worked having it essentially wind blasted backwards.
Spamton with EX's more suave relaxed Bangs wouldn't translate smoothly, so I understand keeping it as-is.
The onlyyy thing I personally don't see eye2eye on is his rosey cheeks making a comeback. I feel like they were removed for a reason on the Neo form, like Spamton cant 100% fully morph his face onto it.
Its literally the only thing in this entire animation that I'm not fully onboard with, so thats GOTTA mean something lol.
The Red design is such a great call back to all the fanart of people desperately wishing to see Mettaton Ex in his reporter uniform. Was absolutely thrilled to see it, even if he had no arms by that point lol.
The dialogue during the fight is pretty much PERFECT. I could only imagine how freaked out Suzie and Ralsei must have been.
Hey, it also makes Suzies line about the "Hands" after beating Neo make sense, since this fight now features a [Hand-Full] of 5 fingered attacks.
I love the utalization of the railroad tracks by having Suzie and Ralsei get wrecked by 2 Spam-trains.
The "Disco?" ball attack was so good, I loved seeing the little guy drop to the floor and walk around.
Im very glad to see you make Spamton Ex have a dance and several Leg based attacks, it just wouldn't be right without them.
Was really happy to see the unused pillar attacks as well towards the end there.
That custom Sprite for GIGA Spamton EX is lovely as well, very interesting close up of the armor, even if its slightly modified compared to the base version... just like how NEO's was.
Feels a bit Tank-like with how compressed the shoulder pads are, also the yellow heart was a very nice detail.
While I fear Toby Fox may never show us what Spamton EX could have been I have absolutely 0 doubt it would have been JUST like this. Well done.
Woah, I think you've had the most to say about this fight and I admire your enthusiasm!
Glad you thought the music matched up with the fight! I'd been listening to a few others before the pick but they didn't quite have the speed I wanted, still was a very tough pick though!
And you basically picked apart my thought process perfectly in your design section, while talking about the hair, colours and the crude shoulder pads. Though I do get why you wouldn't be a fan of the red cheeks, I've seen a big divide over it with other people, my main reason for adding them back was simply just to make him stand out more from his previous form, though I do admit Spamton does lose a lot of the imposing nature he had in the Neo design because of them, so I can sorta agree with you there.
The red design was actually a callback to mettaton's 'news reporter' outfit in undertale, with the red suit and yellow tie, in one of his segments and it's why Spamton was just reporting on a bunch of stuff during the attack. --Actually also! There was another reference with the cooking section seen in undertale, in a previous attack, the one where he's stirring a bowl and dons a chefs hat! (I was originally going to top it off towards the end with a reference mettaton's stageplay performance, when Spamton loses all his limbs, one of the possible attacks would have been him getting in a dress similar to mettaton's, but I couldn't think of a way to work it into an attack.)
Good to know I somewhat hit the hammer on the head with Spamton's speech patterns as well and YES! So far I think you're the first person to call a connection between the hands attack and Susie's mention of hands after the fight, I always suspected that Toby might've developed one but scrapped it early on, making Susie's dialogue make less sense as a consequence.
The attacks were something that I kinda made up as I went along, so I'm also doubly surprised AND pleased that it'd meet the standards of 'good' attacks!
Lastly, Spamton's final attack sprite was probably one of the trickiest things to sprite, and not just cause it was big, but also since it had to look like his current design now while still looking like the normal Neo attack sprite! (If that made any sense), good to know he's more tank like, that was one of my aims on making him.
Overall thank you for taking the time to write this, possibly one of the best things I've read as not only a critique but a deconstruction of the the video! Thank ye
I love all the cute details like: "Spamton bakes a cake with a vegan substitute."
Spamton randomly throwing Noelle at you. This is a great fight. Well done.
Oh thank you!
I can’t tell if the lagging is on purpose or not but at this point it’s just become your signature style
Nah, my laptop really just be like that "•-•. At this point it really has become signature.
@@JQR. ah I see
@@JQR.I can’t tell if you should or shouldn’t get a new laptop
@@TheSenkManboth
ONE [[Hochi Mama]]!!
5:46 lol nice salt route throwback
Overall an excellent animation!
Eyy you noticed! And thanks!
*_WAIT DON'T REFERENCE THAT, I REMEMBERED AAAAAAAAAA-_*
Holy shit this is such a brilliant concept.
Imagine the faster you do NEO fight, you get less time in EX fight since the carts didn't go as far.
That's rather intresting actually, since it'd be dependent on your timing in the NEO fight that'd mean that you would get some variable difficulty on thr fight itself, I really like that idea!
@@JQR. Of course, then you could sit for an hour right before finishing the NEO battle to give yourself practically infinite time. (Also, the dialogue is great, so if this ever becomes a fangame, the times should pause during dialogue so as to not incentivize dialogue skipping for an easier fight)
@@alexsieh3089Yeah that was something I realised only after I finished the animation which was annoying, since it'd be hard to go back and change something in the animation, definitely agree that the timer should stop during cutscenes!
@@alexsieh3089after 3 minutes of sitting in the manu at 5% health the strings snap under spamtons weight and you go to ex automatically
@@jma0645fatty
Imagine if the amount of the time it took beat Spamton is actually saved and timed for this fight
like when you beat him too fast... you could hit the wall faster
@@spantomdancandinho4617So this could be bad for speedrunners.
@@P3dr0m4n03lactually itd be good because they finish the battle earlier (althrough for that they may as well just murder spamton ex)
Wait, couldnt you just do a strategy like snapping spamton's wires in phase 1 until the mercy bar is at least 93% and then kill spamton nei and snap ex's wires with everybody in phase 2?
@@dylanzlol7293 that's ... very clever
I like how a ton of the description lines ( and his phases and attacks ) refrence even more of Mettaton
Oh this is actually Amazing this is a Work Of Art this is like a Masterpiece man I LOVE THIS
Wait, are you pipislover from Twitter????
Oh My God It's Pipislover1997
BIG SHOT
@@salesman1997 salesman1997 from the hit game Deltarune?! It cant be!
HEY EVERY!
For Undertale/Deltarune fan music, people tend to make it more epic then how Toby usually makes it, but this song perfectly slaps and sounds the same way as if Toby himself made this. It kind of sounds like “Needles in my @ss” from the Spamton restitched fangame. Good Job man. Be proud.
Thank you! Finding the best fit for music was probably one of the first things I did before even making the animation and I think that Wicher500i's track ticked everything off, glad you think so too!
Okay this actually feels official. I love every single little detail. It's perfect
The one [[HOCHI MAMA GOT ME]] [[TRY NOT TO LAUGH]]
That one came from [OUT OF] [[Nowhere.]]
@@JQR. HEAHEHAEHEAHAEHAEHA THAT IT [[DO IT]]
I like that if the timer runs out literally the fight just ends, because the punishment is literally worst for you, dealmaker 2 would be an op item in concept given that the ex-bosses drop powerful items, so just kicking you out with no rewards only makes you waste items
Yeah that's what I was thinking! A player might also accidentally save after the fact absent-mindedly after the fact which demolishes the chances of trying over, that's the real punishment:)
I love the idea of Spamton constantly having another phase, and warning you about it. It's like UTLB but the difference is that Spamton never gets to achieve such phase. You did a great job once again JQR! I can't wait to see what else you have instore for us!
this actually looks like it was originally supposed to be part of the game but got scrapped due to unknown reasons.
i love how the music sounds like an actual spamton-themed song instead of just a lazy melodyswapped death by glamour.
Heck yeah! Love the dedication you have to these concepts. It's so [[EX]]tra I love it!
1:53 Ok the way he sheds his wings is super cool. And love that warped "OH YES" sound.
2:10 Ooo the time limit is such a cool idea! Makes me think of the giga train battle from Bowser's Inside Story. Don't run out of track!
2:24 Well, you're told to change MTT to his EX form specifically because of his lesser defense. xD
2:48 Heads coming from behind is a neat way to add to the attack. Plus it makes sense since you're going backwards lol.
3:10 Let's be honest, ThrowString should have been an act in the original fight. You literally added that move this chapter as a cool minigame for CUTTING WIRES, and even used it in Queen's fight. It's right at home here!
3:40 That Spamton disco ball is so real.
4:10 Hah a vegan pipis substitute, nice callback.
4:17 Oo you even added a second check, just like for Spamton NEO!
5:22 It heals in reverse! Bet Spamton put S.Poison into that.
5:43 Oh no Spamton we're not doing the salt route again.
5:54 These animations while he talks are awesome.
6:37 Oh nice and Spamton starts losing parts EX style! It's probably pretty easy to do considering how tweened he is. xD
7:34 Suddenly Bob-omb??
8:02 Lol nice, Spamton calling in viewers to help kill Kris.
8:48 The realization.
9:35 Lol nice the news outfit. Also holy crap this attack is insane??
10:00 Omg the Spamtons poking their noses into the ground.
10:06 NOELLE??
10:37 That's the coolest cungadero around.
11:48 Oh lord he's bringing out the big hyperrealistic whistle.
12:04 Is that the Omori train ambience-? OH OK
12:46 Yeah we really need that break right now. xD Like how the A falls of the sign too, like even that's broken down.
13:25 End of the line! The final attack!!!
14:54 Heh an armless ska dance like Mad Dummy!
15:13 Bruh you thief.
16:20 Ok and except for the line about getting mutilated, everything from here on is the same.
19:00 Oh RIP he really does have no defense, just friggin dies. 💀
19:26 "Do you remember what the [Voices in my head] usually say?" is such a good line lmao. And he tries to go box mode! xD
20:56 Pft and if you crash, Spamton still gets destroyed too, but you still pretty much failed and just get the shadow crystal.
In general awesome fight! I think it gets a little too off the walls at points, I don't think you needed that many attacks. It feels more fitting for a hard mode. Even so, it's a really fun concept!
Another outstanding piece of work JQR. I imagine there's already a modding team chomping at the bit to turn this into a playable fight!
Also yikes at Spamton stealing your health items. That's crueller than anything Toby has done to us thus far! (Bar the genocide ending in Undertale, but we kind of do that to ourselves.)
I'm flattered you think so highly of it! I've actually put a Google Drive link in the description with sound files and a spritesheet that can be looked at, in the case that people want to do just that! (Though really they can be used in any way.)
Also yep, no healing towards the end was the final cruel nail in the coffin, as another extra challenge, I'd like to think that it'd be counterbalanced by the fact that Spamton would already be one or two string snaps away from the fight ending (Since you'd need to snap the strings a good bit before to trigger the heart attack.... attacks, and progress the fight onward.)
That being said though, if the strings aren't snapped enough times after the 2nd heart attack and the final attack already passed... Then the no healing would almost definitely become big trouble after a few attacks!
This is soo good, real high quality stuff, the dialogue is well written, and ooo, i like the fact that the battle ends instantly if you attack again, showing that you already completed the fight with violence, and if you want to turn back from it, you'll either reload and not attack him again or try to redeem yourself by cutting the wires for the entire mtt ex fight!
Wow, this is genuinely incredible! All the attacks look great, and the final attack is incredible to! The best and most well-thought out Spamton EX concept I've ever seen. If the sprites are free to use, I'm considering at least trying to make some sort of playable fight using them, despite my admittedly bad programming skills.
Keep up the good work!
Thnak you! And yep yep, the sprites are free to use if you want to do stuff with them, they can be found in a google drive, in the description!
Anyone noticed that at 16:11 , when you break the third phone and the attack starts to dissapear, you can actually see eyes (look at his glasses)
: )
Spamton OMEGA 16:15
Oh wow, I loved everything about this! From the fact that instead of shifting from box to ex to neo like Mettaton does, Spamton has the idea to instead try and revert that effect in hopes of defeating you, to 16:15 when the glasses are broken and reveal something terrifying, to all of Spamton's sprites, to Mettaton EX gaining all the og neo "defense"! It's all so fantastic, just wonderful job on this one 👏 👌
This is absolutely fantastic. I truly hope this gains the recognition it deserves and that your channel grows quickly. This is a very impressive display of skill.
Thank you! And hey, maybe it will
@@JQR. Of course, dude. Much kudos.
i've never really been too intrigued with spamton ex concepts but this one is really well done
Thank you!
hi bowserman
@@theladiescallmesona hi mailen
Amazing job as usual,
Keep up the good work man!
Thanks a lot!
This is amazing. Itd be cool for a tutorial for how you make these deltarune animatons from adding custom animations for pre existing spries or bullet patterns.
@@sixty5notch796Maybe! I've been considering it but I'd need to get stuff set up right though, which'd take a bit, since all my recording stuff is set to only record DeltaRune at the moment, still! Something I intend to do in the future.
@@JQR. cool!
@@JQR.That would be awesome. Youre a master at these Spammy fights
the track reversing is such a cool idea that makes the encounter very unique . very nice !
also “but he lost his keys” very nice reference
The way you used the unused attacks were really creative and interesting, I liked it alot
Hey, thanks! I thought that some of 'em could probably be brought back in some way
Oh GOD!
I LOVE to watch fight concepts and honestly people being to animate and replicate the game's movements and systems do it so good!
The whole concept is GREAT! Things like the new heart-attack part, the weather report, the final attack, they all are amazing! Maintaining humor and the chaotic little [[NUMBER 1 RATED SALESMAN 1997]]
It's just so well done, ignoring the fps sometimes dying a bit because well, a big project with aseprite is no joke lol
This being _optional_ but giving you a better Dealmaker is so cool too! AND ThrowString, god damn it should've been on the base fight tbh
AND THE TIMER MECHANIC WORKS SO WELL, GOING BACKWARDS
THE MUSIC TOO FITS
I can't express it enough
Another great animation, good work with this man!
Thanks dude!
This is so cool!!! I love all the sprites they're all so cool! The sprites for when he dances in particular are so good!! And all the Mettaton references are so clever!!
Oh my god I love this. The Mettaton references, the music, the attacks, the dialogue! And that last Sans-esque [Special Attack] was an amazing sight to see!
Glad you do! The special attack bit was defo inspired a bit by Sans' a bit, but also from the unique interaction in the original Neo fight, if you are to get swallowed on the final attack he'll spit you back out and you'd take a bit of damage, so I decided to expand on that, literally.
the time limit and going backwards is such a good concept, and the dialogue feels like it was written by toby himself! amazing!
Man this is so well made and done! Amazing work!
Thanks a ton! ... A Spam-ton
@@JQR. You’re welcome!
Y’know, I actually was not that into a Spamton Ex concept, it just was something that struck me as easily understood. Just Spamton Neo being like Mettaton Ex, but I thought the idea was limited for some reason. I’m a bit surprised there never has been more to this concept, I’ve only saw Filament’s song video before (but haven’t watched). But Mr. JQR, this fight was spectacular. I was quite blown away lol.
Such a creative boss fight, its very distinct from the Neo battle. The music is so perfect, it’s so unique and pretty catchy! Hats off to Wicher500. I really like the “clap clap” part and, being an Ex song, it also has a part of the Mettaton Ex theme: the one at 3:33 . Also, you timed that motif real well to match the moments in the fight, especially the [HANDS] moment and the final phone attack, sick. Though I have to admit, I first heard that Ex motif in Undertale Last Breath’s phase 2… so I actually am reminded more of that then Mettaton hah.
I really felt all the effort put into this whole video, like every tick of the TP going up and all the motion of the attacks and how the soul moves… all made one frame at a time. It all really shows because this fight, as others have said, is so game-accurate. If there’s one thing I will say on the accuracy of all the fight mechanics, the soul shooting mechanic is different from the game: the normal shots can only have 3 bullets be onscreen and then you can’t fire (the firing speed is very fast… but maybe I just don’t mash hard enough lol). I don’t really mind, but if your looking to improve your mimicry, there’s one thing to improve on. All the attacks are so creative while still being in tune to a Deltarune fight, plus all of them are really well-designed! While the natural difficulty is tougher, it’s still easy to know how to avoid the attacks. Of course, the dialogue is impeccable and very much Deltarune. Dialogue has been your strong suit after all, it really makes this fight feel it is in the base game lol. Main thing is that Spamton just speaks in his own way about his new rad [Ex] body, right on.
Here’s a highlight of everything:
2:09 Susie couldn’t have said it better lol. Normally explaining things goes to Ralsei, so it’s a fun surprise. (And it’s perfectly Susie-like lol)
3:20 oh the throw ability! And Kris that was dangerous jumping karts like that. This goes for the second time it’s used but this player couldn’t hit all four points, sucker >:).
3:44 the Disco Ball attack is so fun lol, Break it down.
4:21 two checks? Epic
5:26 hah, negative health. The successor to the S.Poison item. Mini chef Spamtons and the cake!? Crazy.
5:46 Oh, that’s real good. But maybe a [SPARE] key would work good friend? (Dancing angel Spamtons lol)
5:58 … and the hits just don’t stop. The growing hands and his shadowed face (great improvements!) just are creepy… and then we move on just like that.
6:12 Spamton’s heart is different from the main game right? It’s the mouth I think, but I like it actually.
7:41 omg Spamton Disco Ball is alive and he jumped outta there lol, get pranked Susie.
8:08 This attack is tough bro, also nice timing on the [Win, Win, Win] with Spamton’s face. And doesn’t help that… wall face laughs when you get hit, tough and spooky.
9:03 these box moving attacks are very unique. I don’t think I’ve seen that before. Dang nice kick Spam Ex lol.
9:39 the News report… okay this is epic lol. It’s very charming and crazy. The enlarged cannons at 9:56 remind me of the oversized Pipis cannon thingy in Scampton the Great lol. And it’s RNG? Dang
10:09 Noeeeellle. And Susie and Ralsei are surprised too. Does getting hit by Noelle do damage? And is damage character dependent too? Lol
10:42 the special [Cungadero]!!
11:05 [In my way] that’s a reference… Susie says this but it’s also a UT genocide quote too.
11:58 Oh a whistle- oh rip Susie and Ralsei :(. [1997!] health woah, didn’t catch that at first
The final stretch bringing on another one-on-one like in the Snowgrave fight, now this is bonus fight material lol.
12:57 The personality shown just by the soul getting close to the fallen letter and the TP raising is great.
13:35- 14:53 Kris got hit by a train! And begins the final attack. This final attack is so crazy, the intensity, the dramatics lol. Nice use of the unused pillar attack and the attack itself reminds me of Cuphead and Djimmi’s section with the pillar section you got to shoot to get through. And then at the end Everyone from the fight jumps on screen, woooowww.
15:27 that’s some deserved [Salt Route] on the wound Kris, that is so devilish of that Ex guy. That is… some trick. And that line is perfect lol. I think I remember reading it in the sweepstakes, it sounded familiar here. But good thing our soul here found a safe spot for the endurance attack.
16:14 bro the hidden scary faces… and the music is timed perfectly for the attack itself. Creepy factor surpassed.
The reward is the Dealmaker 2, for some reason I thought the description and money effect was the same for the first one, but it’s definitely has more [Big Shot] power. Epic, Ralsei and Susie would say the same things. The other endings have Spamton’s Ex SHAKY defense lol, and he fails to turn into a box (clever, going in reverse order of Mettaton lol). I like how Spamton raises his hands and then droops when time runs out and we all hit a wall, everything after with the carts and the atmosphere… offputtingly ominous. (Spamton is supposed to be the burnt strings? Dark… but easy to miss). The No-hit mode is funny lol, Spamton Ex is a glass railgun lol. Finally the credits :), glad to see the “YOU” lingering on.
On Spamton Ex’s design, he looks more simple than I thought he would look, the shoulder pads and the central body are distinct from Neo as well as the legs and arms. I really like the rosy cheeks on Spamton as his faces in the Ex form are more jovial (his eyes being visible really add that) which works with the energetic tone of the fight lol. It also provides a contrast to when Spamton looks down and his face gets shadowed. His final attack HD form makes him imposing, to me it’s his pupils being visible again, and the cackle-his maniacal cackle. Very nice.
To end, the lag I find personally appealing because it is something I find similar to playing my N64 emulator on my old windows computer (like it was a literal Windows XP I think, I don’t have it sadly :(, removing it was not my wish). It was the type of lag that to me was fun because it meant more reaction time and therefore an advantage against those cpus lol. Especially at the final attack, it looked like the player would have a harder time with these attacks if it weren’t for the slow-down lag, gotta take all the help you can get lol. Stellar video and excellent fight!
Eyy this was once again a delight to read, most of your comments really have been! A thing I really like from your thoughts is that you don't really pull your punches on the positives, but negatives also, just speaking your mind to whatever is said which I've found useful for feedback purposes and just 'cause its enjoyable to read. Anyway! To address the stuff you said...
I won't lie I totally get why the EX concept wouldn't be as gripping as some of the other stuff on first glance, like you said it's a pretty straightforward thing. (And if I'm being honest, I never actually expected it to win the voting poll! I was kinda suprised honestly lele) But I went ahead with it anyway, mainly because I thought a Spamton Ex battle was pretty untapped video-wise, it *was* just something that was mentioned as a throwaway line in-game so I gets it and also because I liked the challenge of creating something with as little information pieces for it as possible, less is more as they always say!
And yes definitely agree with the song also! When I first heard Wicher's music for the idea I immediately new I wanted to use it since it fit the scene which I made up in my head before I started anything, though Filament Vol's banger was a very close 2nd. Funnily enough also, a bulk of the attacks were made on a whim, instead of planned like most of the dialogues, luckily they all sorta worked well I think?
I'll be taking the yellow soul shots into account for whenever it's used again in other things, I *knew* something was off about how frequent they were being shot when animating but couldn't quite place my finger on it till I'd exported the whole video as an mp4 😭. But yeah, 3 shots onscreen will be the main thing I'll try to get done going foward if there are any other lemon soul sections that I'd ever need to do
For the news section the RNG would probably be pre-determined (as in there's a set amount of orders which the attack could go in just so some of them aren't completely and utterly unfaireth) and hmm, getting hit by Noelle would deal 1 hp of damage
Also ye, you right! The heart attack is ever so slightly changed, I'm shocked you noticed. It's mainly just a modified mouth and I brought one of its eyes one pixel higher
Also, also yis! Spamton's healing denial line is referencing one of his sweepstakes lines, (The wedding ring or heart Locket one I believe?)
Anyway, yeah this guy is really just a glass-cannon, defeating him will earn you basic stuff, running out of time will earn you a whole heap of nothing, and Spamton After Not Surviving (I coulda probably hinted that he's just down on the floor as strings and some glasses a bit better), and yeah super money making machine for sparing him. Very, very, very early on when this first started it was originally gonna be much smaller in scale, the fight would consist of one reaaaally long attack, which if hit at all during it would've instantly killed the player, with then Spamton combusting from overheating due to the length of it at the end, though this was scrapped before anything was pen to paper due to the obvious issues with the idea, phew
The design is something I tweaked a bunch just cause I wasn't quite satisfied with whatever I drew, the final thing you see here being somewhat an amalgamation of other designs by people which I muddled into one design, though I'm glad you think it turned out well, you're too kind! A lot of squash-and- stretch was used throughout it as you can see since I was learning how to apply it in Aesprite at the time, which found its way into a lot of Spamton's head and body movements, I'll probably pull my punches with its use in other stuff so it's not something completely overused but I really enjoyed how it looked like!
A Windows XP? I find that pretty endearing actually, sorry it had to go for whatever reason. But I was also using emulators at an early age on my windows 7 as a past time, used to be great! Mainly Mario games were played, although at some point a really small unknown game was played, Mother 2 and welp.... you can see how I ended up making concepts for similar games like it ;)
This is great! Amazing work
Thanks a lot!
There's a quick blink-and-you'll-miss-it reference to The Salt Route with Spamton losing his car keys in this!
This is amazing! Aside from the colors glitches and low framerate, still very cool.
Thank you! Glad you were able to enjoy it despite the glaring issues!
Just imagine those glitches as an ambient effect of Spamton
im not joking, the minuscule lag just sells it, it gives so much charm!!, pls never run at more than 60 fps
Man this rly look awesome
This battle is very detailed like giga spamton figth but it looks like it should be in the original
Good work ngl
This is so good, the attack ideas are so creative and fun to watch, and the dialogue is greatly written as well
The dialogue was the part I was most stand-offish on, so it's good that I was able to weave a few lines together to make it sound like him
This is sick dude I love it
Holy [cungadero] this was just incredible. And over ~90,000 frames??? Damnn!! I love this, and wish jt was in the actual game. All the dialogue sounds like it was actually written by Toby, thats how well it fits. And the attacks, all look so fun. Espscially the "Final Attack Gauntlet" as I called it. Over all, INCREDIBLE work, dude!!
PS, the joke of Spamton taking the Butler Juice when you tried to heal is absolutely hilarious, but so infuriating, LOL
Thanks man! I made the heal steal infuriating by design at the end :)
@@JQR. Hey, it was a great choice to put that in, in the end. Prob my favorite little detail in this! Btw, do you ever plan to turn this into a mod?
@@Space_PencilNot by me necessarily, due to a lack of skill to mod, though I've put a Google doc in the description with the whole spritesheet and some sounds if anyone wants to try making one themselves!
@JQR. Ah, gotcha. Once again though, incredible work here. Have a great day!
Dude I don’t care what anyone says you are an absolute amazing UA-camr the deltarune animations you make are amazing and really creative and I really really enjoy watching never give up the grind you have WAY to much talent bro
Thank you for the kind words! It still really means a lot, I'd like to think that anyone would be able to make these, with enough dedication!
@JQR. Great job bro, it is very Good
@JQR. man I hope I can do something similar with my phone
@@ZaidMustafa-bq2qqI'm sure there are apps that could probably do that to a good degree!
@@JQR. like what exactly
This was wonderful! I love the mechanics and the references!
PS: Just out of curiosity, are you ok with doing fandubs of your work?
Thank you! And ye, I'm kool with fandubs being made!
I enjoy every [[ BIG SHOT ]] moment of this video, a tremendous [ hochi mama ] and good concept around it, truly a work of art about this [[ hyperlink blocked ]].
I am not even kidding, this is one of my favorite pieces of media I've ever seen.
I LIKE IT, BIG SHOT.
THIS HONESTLY SATISFIES ME, WAS WORTH IT.
i have no words other than the fact that this is THE BEST FANMADE FIGHT IVE SEEN OF SPAMTON 😭
its so true to his character, and, just like multiple comments have pointed out, follow true to the message of deltarune
nice work!
Honestly, I would really love this as a mod (not a fangame, but an actual mod that adds this to the base game), just because of how well it... _works._ It isn't even technically more difficult to kill him, as it only takes one attack, but it works amazingly as a "hardmode" that you can opt into, for greater reward. I also really like that if you don't defeat him in time, you don't lose, but you just don't get any gear for defeating him, so it's really high risk to try for the Dealmaker 2.
This was incredible!
AMAZING!, also, the unused attacks fit really well!
Thank ye!
@@JQR. aye np matey, ye did a great a job
This is crazy good it feels canon
Thanks!
Really cool idea. Hope this gets turned into a mod someday!
10:07 LMAO where did Noelle come from? Will her dialogue after this point (such as the ferris wheel scene) change to acknowledge Spamton throwing her at you or is that just an intentional big-lipped alligator moment for the funny?
Spamton grabbed her from her room and put her back just as fast xD
And yeah, she'd most likely throw a line in about it in the ferris wheel scene at the part where she's talking about the strange happenings in her 'dream'
Loved the Undertale references man, this is great!
Yeye! I figured it could use some of them since spamton is still a sorta mirror to mettaton in an EX form
5:54
literally as i read the dialogue i remembered gaster is heavily associated with hands (in fanart and he does talk in hands)
such a neat little detail
This is amazing!
i don't beieve, that you make this all in aseprite.
man. this is quite a lot of work. good job! it looks very.
Thanks! It took some work but ye, it's in Aesprite!
9:59 And the one [Hochi Mama]😂
The attacks are amazing and thats what i expected, but the sheer amount of attention put to things like making spamton EX fall apart after touching him is so good. Its like an optional secret-secret boss that you fight only after attacking NEO. It makes this fight seem very incorporated in deltarune and the quality is on par with actual deltarune. But will this be a playable game??
I don't plan on making one as I don't have the knowledge to do so, but I've put a Google doc filled with all the assets in the vid (like sprites and sounds and such) if anyone wants to try make their own, sort depends on the people I suppose!
And thank you very much also!
That weather report part is so good, I keep rewinding to see it again.
I absolutely love the idea of the tracks going backwards omg
What if the only way to win was to cut his strings? Like if you kept attacking him no matter what he would just do more and more phases?
Or the box form is just impassable because it doesnt take damage
@@mechamedegeorge6786he realise he can’t fly ( too heavy for the wires), then finds out the box gorm has no real attacks, and just forfeits
@@ArceTheTroll While the annoying dog theme plays
Last breath Spamton
Never gotten this much attention in a comment before! Very happy :)
In 12:13 Susie and Ralsei life makes the number 1997, nice detail
Nice catch! I think you might be the first person who pointed it out.
Yes, i think details like that are cool, like how in the weird route Berdly fight Noelle HP goes down to 55 that in roman numbers is LV, and i wanted to say that the usage of the Spamton unused attacks was also very cool 😎
@@laukachuThanks! I was looking through a few and thought hey, "I could use some of these!"
I love how he's using upraged Mettaton attacks, dialogue parts and how well that pointa out that he stole that body, like when he uses the ' happy break time ' from MTT fight
Also is that a Sans genocidal fight reference? 9:36
Mad Dummy fight reference? 15:00
Your skills have definitely improved!!
Thank you! I tried experimenting with squash and stretch this time around
Merg needs to do a no hit run to this 💀
If this was a real game
@@sonicfanboy3375 1T 15!
4:38 i love how when he says "they can [killing you 1,000,000 times!]" He looks directly at the screen, almost as if the threat is meant for someone else...
I fucking lost it at 10:08 when he just flung Noel at you
I love it
He grabbed her all the way from her room Queen's mansion and then returned her back just as fast.
Imagine chilling on your room then you are suddenly flung towards kris and co.
I love how you kept the thing where the dialogue foreshadows the attacks
Also god I had to try so hard not to laugh out loud at that “ONE [[Hochi Mama]]”
Yiss, I replayed the Neo fight a bunch to catch that along with other stuff, didn't want to miss any details here!
8:48 spamton's talking about mettaton neo
Absolutely amazing.
My friends showed me this and I loved it. I love the dialogue, I love the attacks. I'd gladly recreate it as a mod for DELTARUNE but sadly I can't due to my laptop dying. But, I never knew you could animate something like this in aesprite.
How skilled are you at coding?
@@dylanzlol7293 Well my first projects kind of sucked but I'd say I'm decent at coding gml when I get good ideas of how to make things work the way i want.
Hey no sweat! The files in the description aren't going anywhere so if you ever were to get it fixed and still had the motivation, you could probably still do it if you wanted.
And thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
@@JQR. I will probably recreate this in a future mod of mine since i have a mod idea thats pretty big in my opinion
But don't worry I won't lose motivation as I want to atleast finish all my mods before retiring and stuff like that
I love that when you run out of time the soul turns pink like spamton is now part of it...
Amazing, literally only thing I have gripes with is the way his head looks, and that’s basically nothing
Very cool!
Thanks!
This is very well made.
How tf are you so good at making animations that feel like they could be actually in the game?
I love the Salt Route reference! ( 5:46 )
5:46 « But he loses his keys »
People who don’t know vs people who know moment
Average seasoned meal enjoyer Vs The chad salt-man conisuer
Amazing
8:55 I like how when he talks about the “body of his [Hopes and dreams]” having [DF: -4000] it’s a reference to Mettaton NEO having extremely low defense in the games code, so you can one shot him in Genocide.
Why do i love this so much
Hell yeah!! JQR is back!!!
Indeedeth!
THIS IS NOT A [Masterpiece] THIS IS THE WHOLE [Pizza]
I cannot even convey how good this is into words congratulations!
This is a pretty well made thing! good job! Also are you ever planning on making a spamton box form video?
Edit: or maybe just like a box form short or smth?
Even after all this time people still find new and amazing things to do with Spamton. Absolutely incredible
I love this so much man, I love how they're going backwards not only in the sense of the roller coaster going back but Spamton going from NEO to EX!
This is definitely what i would expect Spamton EX to be like
3:37 is timed so perfectly due to the song being at the best part