Incompetence, Corruption, and a Rioting Mob: The Gibbs Carbine

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  • @SomeDumbKid1
    @SomeDumbKid1 3 роки тому +144

    The story begins with 3 dudes trying to start a company, it ends with an angry mob torching a weapons factory. I love history.

  • @teutonicbohemian
    @teutonicbohemian 6 років тому +315

    I love how he talks a lot the gun and adds history into it. This guy rules.

  • @Fritzi2253
    @Fritzi2253 3 роки тому +56

    A thief stuck a pistol in a man’s ribs and said, “Give me your money.”
    Victim, “ Don’t you recognize me? I’m your congressman.”
    The thief replied, “Oh, sorry, give me MY money.”

  • @Chevypotamus
    @Chevypotamus 6 років тому +813

    "No corruption going on here"-The Mayor. probably.

    • @DarkSnideoftheRainbow
      @DarkSnideoftheRainbow 6 років тому +16

      I actually found a video of the Mayor responding to the accusations of corruption
      ua-cam.com/video/jEbl-umsFOM/v-deo.html

    • @Commie62
      @Commie62 6 років тому +8

      Meeoow, indeed.

  • @frederikclaeyssens9201
    @frederikclaeyssens9201 6 років тому +754

    And as Gun Jesus told of the tales back in the olden days, the apostles gathered around and listened.

    • @omegamanprivate7132
      @omegamanprivate7132 6 років тому +14

      Frederik Claeyssens it is a parable, did you understand the hidden truth?

    • @WineScrounger
      @WineScrounger 6 років тому +8

      Often and eagerly

    • @LeCharles07
      @LeCharles07 6 років тому +34

      And God sent Gun Jesus to tell the people tales of gun history and the people subscribed to hear: and God saw that it was good.

    • @dankdark974
      @dankdark974 6 років тому +1

      omegaman private Riots suck

    • @derekhugh
      @derekhugh 5 років тому

      fucking LoL

  • @gosonegr
    @gosonegr 6 років тому +370

    Came for the gun, stay for the story, be robbed by your Mayor. Classic

    • @robdavideogamer4119
      @robdavideogamer4119 5 років тому +11

      It's not really robbery. The citizens burned the factory to the ground, they should be the ones to pay for it. Fair is fair.

  • @74groundhog
    @74groundhog 6 років тому +86

    Usually the firearm is the focus of the video but I also love the videos where the story behind the firearm is the fascinating part. Every once in a while you'll click on a video and get a treat like this one. Wonderful!

  • @christopherzarcone1363
    @christopherzarcone1363 6 років тому +362

    “Don’t worry we’re not corrupt, probably” The Mayor of New York (who looks a lot like the local crime boss but maybe he has an evil brother or something)

    • @brandonbentley8532
      @brandonbentley8532 5 років тому +6

      Elected officials in nys are so obviously mobsters it's like dressing a wolf in a sheep coat...it's so obvious!

    • @semi-useful5178
      @semi-useful5178 4 роки тому +2

      @Lil' Connor Peterson
      You obviously don't know about the political machines and vote fraud.

    • @Sivartius
      @Sivartius 4 роки тому +7

      @The Dead Peterson Kid Doesn't matter how the citizens of New York vote, there's enough dead people to outvote them every time. That plus the vote counters are the mayor's friends, and if you vote the wrong way, you might just get introduced to "Guido" and "Slugger"

    • @greycatturtle7132
      @greycatturtle7132 3 роки тому

      XD

    • @POTUSJimmyCarter
      @POTUSJimmyCarter 3 роки тому +2

      Incorrect. The mayor is actually the crime boss's evil brother.

  • @oldgysgt
    @oldgysgt 4 роки тому +7

    I have a Gibbs carbine that I bought as a relic. It had been in a fire, and there was no wood, only a set of blackened metal parts. I Cleaned it up, straightened the Lack plate and the plate on the left side, (the fire had warped them), and then using pictures from the internet, made a new stock. It is now in working order, and even thought it had been in a fire, I feel it would be safe to shoot Black powder loads in it. I had always assumed the gun had been in a resent fire, but now I wonder if this gun could have been one of the guns that had been burned in the New York factory fire, and someone had picked up the parts out of the factory ashes and kept them as a souvenir.

    • @derekstocker6661
      @derekstocker6661 4 роки тому

      That sounds a very plausible account, really makes the tale of these carbines come to life, I once had many years ago a pair of Tower flintlock pistols that were welded together that came from a fire at the manufactory, no wood just iron and brass.

    • @SStupendous
      @SStupendous 2 роки тому

      Amazing, what is it WAS one of those that had been in the fire.... more likely that it was than you may think!

  • @thegoldencaulk2742
    @thegoldencaulk2742 6 років тому +1556

    Incompetence? Corruption? In New York? Say it ain't so!

    • @KrisKrieg1
      @KrisKrieg1 6 років тому +117

      No, it couldn't be. Absolutely preposterous assumption.

    • @hawks1ish
      @hawks1ish 6 років тому +8

      Dude go back to trolling libtards

    • @lukemillen7486
      @lukemillen7486 6 років тому +109

      Joshua Lansell-Kenny go back to having a sense of humor

    • @andybateman2478
      @andybateman2478 6 років тому +47

      Joshua Lansell-Kenny are you a New Yorker?

    • @Flergenbergen
      @Flergenbergen 6 років тому +22

      There is no corruption in NYC comparable to the good old boy network in these Dixie shitholes. Are you familiar with the history of firearms manufacture in the South around 1862?

  • @lightbluehaze
    @lightbluehaze 6 років тому +32

    The nonchalantness when he said “well doesn’t seem to be a bad gun and then the civil war broke out.” Got me so bad

  • @sailingmaster
    @sailingmaster 6 років тому +127

    How does someone downvote a story that good?

    • @b.griffin317
      @b.griffin317 6 років тому +15

      anti's

    • @allewis4008
      @allewis4008 6 років тому +23

      The occasional SJW rodent.

    • @WineScrounger
      @WineScrounger 6 років тому +14

      21000 views/9 downvotes.
      Disapproval rating under 0.05%, better than some public servants I could mention.

    • @itsconnorstime
      @itsconnorstime 6 років тому

      Reb sympathisers.

    • @Snubrevolver
      @Snubrevolver 6 років тому

      sailingmaster teh youtube

  • @fscreations7373
    @fscreations7373 6 років тому +21

    I love story time with Ian

  • @perochialjoe
    @perochialjoe 6 років тому +12

    This is one of my favorite kinds of Forgotten Weapons videos. When the story is more interesting than the gun. Great work as always, Ian!

  • @Dreska_
    @Dreska_ 6 років тому +77

    'Eagle or possibly chicken' my first thought was a phoenix (as in Phoenix Armoury)

    • @charlesprokopp276
      @charlesprokopp276 6 років тому +20

      It does look like it's on fire, doesn't it? Rather ironic, considering the fate of the armory.

    • @ZGryphon
      @ZGryphon 6 років тому +7

      Maybe, although it's holding a bunch of arrows and an olive branch, just like the eagle in the Great Seal of the United States.

    • @Dreska_
      @Dreska_ 6 років тому +6

      I choose to believe its a phoenix because that would be one ugly eagle haha

    • @howler6490
      @howler6490 2 роки тому

      Nah, its a chicken...oops

  • @TheGhilamonster
    @TheGhilamonster 6 років тому +37

    Great bedtime story, uncle Ian.

  • @pixelkatten
    @pixelkatten 6 років тому +44

    So the Phoenix Armory went up in fire? What were they expecting?

    • @lemeres2478
      @lemeres2478 5 років тому +5

      Well, the mayor's fortunes certainly rose from the ashes....

  • @Sabroe_ffs
    @Sabroe_ffs 6 років тому +11

    I mean at this point, this isn't really a gun channel so much as a history channel. Might be why it's the only gun channel i'm still subbed to!

  • @ianmacfarlane1241
    @ianmacfarlane1241 6 років тому +139

    Gun Jesus has got the lot - you want guns, I got guns, you want history, I got history, you want stories, I've got them too.

  • @fastmongrel
    @fastmongrel 6 років тому +195

    US Eagle.....or Chicken LOL

    • @Sakuxxx1x
      @Sakuxxx1x 6 років тому +2

      Yeah that was funny, but it does looks a litle bit like a chicken rofl ^^

    • @SgtKOnyx
      @SgtKOnyx 6 років тому +2

      Could have actually been a turkey

    • @shawnr771
      @shawnr771 6 років тому +2

      Its a chicken hawk.

  • @arizona-4734
    @arizona-4734 5 років тому +2

    This is a particularly good example of why I enjoy this channel. Interesting engineering and crazy backstories.

  • @DirtyHairy1
    @DirtyHairy1 6 років тому

    I just love listening to Ian telling these stories.

  • @LeCharles07
    @LeCharles07 6 років тому +1

    "Story time with Ian" is one of the best channels on UA-cam.

  • @KrisKrieg1
    @KrisKrieg1 6 років тому +177

    Oi, Gibbs the carbine! *points stabby thing in your direction*

    • @xmm-cf5eg
      @xmm-cf5eg 6 років тому +4

      You must gibbs carbines! Tink of da chillrun!

  • @stevenandbobthedog
    @stevenandbobthedog 6 років тому

    Can we just all take a minute to appreciate this channel? It must be hard to keep content constant and informational in the same regularity that Ian does.

  • @kkarnik03
    @kkarnik03 3 роки тому

    I have enjoyed watching your videos over the years and listening to the history associated with the gun. I think this narration was the best.

  • @OzarksWildman
    @OzarksWildman 6 років тому +10

    It appears the cartouche is in fact the Phoenix. Pretty neat.

  • @padi5star
    @padi5star 6 років тому +1

    Great story and even greater presentation. Totally entertaining. Thank a bunch! I hope UA-cam keeps their dirty hands away from your work! Keep it up, please.

  • @ILikeToLaughAtYou
    @ILikeToLaughAtYou 4 роки тому +5

    This title... is foreshadowing...

  • @MumblesMarbleMouth
    @MumblesMarbleMouth 5 років тому +3

    A fine example that rioting and looting doesn't do any good. The people will pay for all the damage that is done with their taxes. The stories that follow these old guns are more interesting than the history of that era.

  • @moehoward01
    @moehoward01 6 років тому

    You're a good storyteller, Ian. Thanks.

  • @MrAlumni72
    @MrAlumni72 6 років тому +43

    "er ... umm ... er ..." - Mayor Quimby

  • @filmfreak988
    @filmfreak988 6 років тому

    I think that this is the best story behind a gun you've shown off, and you've told us some pretty crazy stories!

  • @lnichols1111
    @lnichols1111 5 років тому

    Well done, history lesson and a description of a historical gun. Good context.

  • @giorgigarsevanidze6334
    @giorgigarsevanidze6334 6 років тому +20

    "...And the lock plate has this nice little U.S. eagle, or possibly a chicken."

  • @Dumbo8234
    @Dumbo8234 6 років тому +195

    Oh no, it's the american chicken! Run for your lives!!!

    • @moosemaimer
      @moosemaimer 6 років тому +35

      CHICKEN OF FREEDOM

    • @George_Doc
      @George_Doc 6 років тому +15

      Colonel Sanders have a different opinion

    • @vaclav_fejt
      @vaclav_fejt 6 років тому +7

      That was a Kentucky fried lobby.

    • @b.griffin317
      @b.griffin317 6 років тому +4

      it could be a t-rex.

    • @allewis4008
      @allewis4008 6 років тому +6

      Speaking of chicken, the Marxists want to put a carbon tax on your meat and eggs and have you eat bugs instead. www.nytimes.com/2018/03/17/opinion/sunday/carbon-tax-on-beef.html

  • @Zdrajev
    @Zdrajev 5 років тому

    I just love the stories of the weapons almost as much as the guns themselves. Very good, high quality and entertaining content! Keep up the good work!!

  • @AustinLutz01
    @AustinLutz01 5 років тому

    Probably my favourite Forgotten Weapons video still to this day. Love this story

  • @billwillis3416
    @billwillis3416 6 років тому +5

    Nice job on research, and good presentation.The weopons of the past really make you aware of the courage you would need to use a rifle like that. The reload is a little more difficult than modern-day . I bet there was a many soiled soldiers.Thanks Ian! Good one!👍👍

  • @lagrasta666
    @lagrasta666 4 роки тому

    Add weapons with history and you have the perfect video. Thank you Ian, that was a very interesting piece of history.

  • @benec5816
    @benec5816 6 років тому

    Thank you once again for a great story to go along with the weapon. Stay safe

  • @dandhan87
    @dandhan87 6 років тому +22

    Pretty hard to detect sarcasm in gun Jesus's words

  • @vaclavnikl6842
    @vaclavnikl6842 3 роки тому +1

    What a story! Really enjoyed listening to this one. Gun's nice as well.

  • @Quetzocoatl22
    @Quetzocoatl22 6 років тому +1

    "And the lockplate has this nice little U.S. eagle, or possibly chicken." With a talent for deadpanning like this, Ian should be in showbiz.

  • @johnvanhul7799
    @johnvanhul7799 6 років тому

    Great historical tidbit!!!

  • @Deftonesdsm
    @Deftonesdsm 6 років тому

    Very good video Ian. You did a really good job summarizing that history. Id love to see a longer indepth history of gun and gun co.

  • @REXOB9
    @REXOB9 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the interesting history behind this firearm.

  • @libertyprime3753
    @libertyprime3753 3 роки тому +1

    “W.W. *Marston*”
    *intense breathing*

  • @stephenhensley7004
    @stephenhensley7004 6 років тому

    The history is great. Thanks!

  • @timadams3979
    @timadams3979 4 роки тому +1

    A very nice gun for the era

  • @PABQ779
    @PABQ779 5 років тому +1

    Very interesting history. Thanks!

  • @daltonmiller8216
    @daltonmiller8216 6 років тому

    That has really excellent sights for that era gun.

  • @PoindexterTactical
    @PoindexterTactical 5 років тому

    I love this type of video! It's an interesting gun without any extra context, but the story behind it is pretty crazy and really interesting.

  • @carbon4454
    @carbon4454 6 років тому +3

    Does anyone else find the bridge between the old muskets and bolt action rifles of World War 1 fascinating?

    • @normtrooper4392
      @normtrooper4392 5 років тому

      This is actually my favourite part of firearms history

  • @EvocativeKitsune
    @EvocativeKitsune 6 років тому

    The mecanism on this gun is very cool!

  • @panzerzh9864
    @panzerzh9864 6 років тому

    I enjoyed this remarkable story for sure!

  • @troy9477
    @troy9477 6 років тому

    Quite a story. Tammany Hall at its finest. Looks like a potentially good design, but that camming system looks like it would get loose. The sight picture looked very good to me. No mention of caliber, but i assume it is .50. A .45 or even a .40 would make sense for a lightweight carbine- lighter bullets for less recoil, and they might shoot slightly flatter (say, 200 gr at 1200-1300 fps). Just a thought. All of these paper cartridge rifles and carbines are interesting. So many differences in one theme. The Sharps certainly seems the best, but there were some good also-rans. Great video as always. Thank you

  • @hugebartlett1884
    @hugebartlett1884 5 років тому +2

    Actually,it is a very good looking carbine,smooth,pleasing shape,and well balanced. Just tough luck it all came into being at a bad time.

  • @saab9251
    @saab9251 6 років тому

    This is the quality content I subscribe for

  • @5anjuro
    @5anjuro Рік тому +1

    The whole story reads like a Simpsons or Futurama episode. Hipster startup dudes, the comically corrupt mayor and a town on the riot.

  • @Tripp426
    @Tripp426 6 років тому

    Ian's "oops" at 8:49 is perfect.

  • @philiproseel3506
    @philiproseel3506 6 років тому +5

    The fact that Missouri was a split state, half union, half confederacy, is even more interesting.

  • @peterisaacs1344
    @peterisaacs1344 2 роки тому

    Bloody marvelous.

  • @roberttherrien352
    @roberttherrien352 6 років тому

    You are my favorite weapon related site. Your presentations remind me of the old magazine "La gazette des armes".
    You have historic,technical and esthetic information that make your site so interesting.
    Keep up the good work Ian . You are the best.

  • @stompingpartridge258
    @stompingpartridge258 6 років тому

    Cool story, thanks Ian.

  • @criffermaclennan
    @criffermaclennan 6 років тому +14

    Pitfalls, politics and dodgy dealings....what an unlikely combo 😂😂

  • @jasonirion6664
    @jasonirion6664 6 років тому

    great history lesson thx ian

  • @brianfuller5868
    @brianfuller5868 6 років тому

    Very good. Thanx for the video.

  • @tonyktx44
    @tonyktx44 5 років тому

    what a beautiful little rifle

  • @SamuraiPie8111
    @SamuraiPie8111 6 років тому +3

    "I'm putting together a team..." - Lucian Gibbs

  • @waynedaley7048
    @waynedaley7048 6 років тому

    Really like your videos. Keep up the good work

  • @pfootball6363
    @pfootball6363 6 років тому +2

    Damn you Mark from C&Rsenal. Now all I can see is the grain pattern in the wood is way off and the toe of the stock will break off eventually

  • @BillRoyMcBill
    @BillRoyMcBill 6 років тому

    Excellent story and a cool gun.

  • @brandonford8092
    @brandonford8092 Рік тому +1

    Not an eagle or a chicken. It's a PHOENIX.... For phoenix armory

  • @shoominati23
    @shoominati23 6 років тому +2

    Hey Ian, when are you going to do a Tour of Lithgow Arms? I'm sure they would allow someone of your standing into the factory as they want more international contracts and I hear that they have a good museum of all the arms they ever manufacturer dating back to the 1st world war and before. Would be worth a shot (pardon the pun ;)

  • @JohnDoe-ff2fc
    @JohnDoe-ff2fc 6 років тому

    great back story!

  • @squirrelonmapletree
    @squirrelonmapletree 6 років тому

    One of the most interesting background story.

  • @ianfurqueron5850
    @ianfurqueron5850 6 років тому

    Neat. A bit surprised the auction price estimate is so low. I'd love to have this.

  • @Noobish_Camper55
    @Noobish_Camper55 5 років тому

    This is an amazing story

  • @candidmoe8741
    @candidmoe8741 6 років тому

    I imagine Grandpa Ian, with grandchildren at his feet, ecstatic listening to his stories (children's stories)

  • @nosaltiesandrooshere7488
    @nosaltiesandrooshere7488 4 роки тому

    👍 excellent, thank you!

  • @gogou9489
    @gogou9489 6 років тому +2

    Ha4...love the part where he says " probably an American eagle or a chicken"

  • @panzerzh9864
    @panzerzh9864 6 років тому

    "And the lock plate has this nice little US eagle... or, possibly, chicken" - made my day! ))))

  • @budgetcommander4849
    @budgetcommander4849 3 роки тому

    Now *THAT* is a title!

  • @murderousintent7838
    @murderousintent7838 5 років тому +2

    hearing the word "Marston" in a video about a gun from the 1800s
    ***RDR2 INTENSIFIES***

  • @somebody3143
    @somebody3143 5 років тому +1

    IRRELEVANT COMMENT: Oh man, Ian McCollum is SUUUCH a friggen’ STUD!
    This dude is one of a kind and is such an EXCELLENT gun historian and a truly AMAZING UA-cam Firearm Showman!
    Love you A TON, Ian- not romantically, of course, but DEFINITELY in an appreciative, admiration oriented manner!!! Now, please don’t get me wrong, after all, that is ONE HECK of a long pony tail, but it’s just not my particular flavor of Chick-Fil-A Sauce!

  • @stanthecomputerman
    @stanthecomputerman 6 років тому

    Cool story. Thanks!

  • @jimkoonce6574
    @jimkoonce6574 6 років тому +5

    Great story, I really like the back stories on the different guns, oops, with the new policies, can I say "guns"?

  • @WineScrounger
    @WineScrounger 6 років тому +2

    Is the chicken indicative of a special contract for colonel sanders?

  • @scottmccrea1873
    @scottmccrea1873 2 роки тому

    Perish the thought that corruption would ever into defense contracting!

  • @scottybeegood
    @scottybeegood 6 років тому

    awesome story

  • @ferrusfylax
    @ferrusfylax 6 років тому

    Very cool

  • @ajvanmarle
    @ajvanmarle 6 років тому

    If it took that long to get them in production it's no surprise they didn't get a good report. By that time Henry rifles were already in production, using brass cardridges and a magazine.

  • @hughbarton5743
    @hughbarton5743 3 місяці тому

    A very lovely thing, but I'll bet you measure the lock time with a calendar.
    Thanks, Ian.

  • @vojdanzaprov4643
    @vojdanzaprov4643 2 роки тому

    "Or possibly chicken"😂
    Thanks for your work and making me laugh, in this case.

  • @thelonerider5644
    @thelonerider5644 6 років тому

    That is the best story ever...

  • @platapus112
    @platapus112 6 років тому +1

    Who's building of guns was worse? Gibbs or HMG?

  • @heyzoos-cgr9369
    @heyzoos-cgr9369 6 років тому +8

    Looks like it could be a Phoenix to me ;)

  • @johnhans2929
    @johnhans2929 6 років тому +3

    Sad that it didn't work very well; it's a really neat design.

  • @matthayward7889
    @matthayward7889 6 років тому

    Great story!