At 40 I did a career adjustment. After 20 years, I don't regret the move at all. Safe travels to you. I will continue to watch your IG's and YT posts.... don't stop posting.
Are you a pilot? Or some other industry? I’m curious what you were doing and what you changed to. I just turned 40; have been in the same industry my entire career. But have wondered whether I have the energy to make a change. I’m so curious about people who actually did it.
@@andrew5184, I went from a hourly construction worker to an engineer. I went to school full time at 39 and graduated at 41. The big decision was planning finances during the time. I sold my nice truck, bought a beater Honda, got a part time job and basically school was my job. I did a 4 year degree in 2.5 years.
Congrats on making the move! That's really a lot to walk away from but now you'll never have to look back and wonder "what if." I'm sure you'll enjoy the widebody flying and layovers, blue skies!
Joe! Love your channel… you and I are alike in that we own vintage planes (47’ 11BC Chief here) and are airline pilots. I was at Endeavor for almost 8 years and went to Delta in Mar 23’. Now, I don’t know how the LCC vs Wholly Owned Regional would compare, but I will say a few things from my experience. The best line at EDV was still worse, than the worst line at DAL. The legacy airlines just treat their pilots better. This was a huge shock (and still is). I don’t feel like the sky is falling anymore, I was getting very anxious to leave EDV. I’m on the 737, and it’s a great plane. It hardly has an MEL. It flies like an airplane, and the systems aren’t hard at all. The CRJ I flew before is more complex. Keep it up Joe! I’m happy and excited for you. Keep us updated.
As long as you keep posting Cub videos, I don't care! Now, being serious, the only way to grow is getting out of the comfort zone. You have a career that many of us can only dream about. I would not worry about the future, I would fly it. Greetings from Spain!
Best of luck on your new journey! Hoping you get a class date soon. I’m a CFI/II with 720hrs and I’m really hoping things pick up after a few months. There are a few CFIs at my school with 1500+hrs and no job offer. 😭😭😭
Fret not. This whole situation is because of the election. Once we're past that, there is still an enormous hole the airlines need to fill. No other choice. Look up "Raven Aviation News" or something like that. They do a great job emailing with updates about the industry
UA-cam just recommended your channel to me and I can’t tell you how helpful this was as I am at the decision point as a CFI. And you are right across the water from my airport so this advice became incredibly real. Thank you.
I like how this guy can casually land a taildragger with wind rushing by him at like 70kmh and just talk to a camera non scripted easily without any cuts, Amazing good luck!
Funny POV when looking at you flying from the back with legs wrapped around the seat and instruments up front 😂. In a tail wheel tandem I never really seen this veiw. Looks awkward but I know that’s how they fly.
Your experience stays with you and benefits both you and your Captain when you come over to a legacy. I had 17 years at the regionals when I came over. Best of luck to you.
This is definitely one of your best videos ever! Thanks for sharing your and your fam’s thought process about moving to what is next, which sounds beyond terrific!! Big time congrats on the new job!
Congratulations, Joe Costanza! I cannot tell you how pleased I am that you're going to come join us, you're really making the right decision. This operation is a giant juggernaut with several completely different companies available for you to enjoy, even when you're junior. You can be the junior Airbus Captain, driving to cover stuff at LGA, in an airplane you've been flying, with the opportunity to at least get qualified on some interesting flying like Morocco or Cairo, but mostly covering sick calls or sitting short call. Or you can be a widebody FO, flying to Europe and Hawaii with some nice domestic destination thrown in. When you show up for indoc you'll realize how different this is from where you're at. Message me up when you're in Portland, we'll go fly the Stearman, I'll put you in back. (Isn't that funny? I don't even know you, but having watched your videos, I know you're capable.) Welcome, Bruddah!
I'm previous NK dispatcher and now manager of flight dispatch at NK (Blake Roark). I'm sure I've dispatched you many times. Hate to see you and senior guys like you go, but def understandable. The future can be a bit questionable for sure. Good luck to you my friend!
Following your heart is always the right decision mate regardless of the unknowns. Grab the opportunity with both hands as our dream job doesn't always present itself. Congrats on the next exciting phase!
I remember when you posted about this thinking about it. I mentioned it's time to do it and that time is now. You replied and seemed unsure still. I'm glad you made the decision and went with it. It will be great for you.
Follow your dreams brother.. I've lived in 11 countries and had 6 different careers and loved every single second of it! Greetings and congratulations from just outside of Newark NJ 🛩️🛩️🛩️
Something to think about. You’re leaving a good seniority position to start at the bottom during a time when the economy is questionable and hard economic times are coming. Spirit would have to furlough more than 2000 pilots to move you out of your position. I retired from Spirit and miss it terribly. Only you know what’s good for you and your family. I wish you the best.
Thanks Tim. It definitely concerns me and I worry about the economy. Spirit has been incredible but I just don’t know what the future holds. We will have 70 A/C parked in 2025, have 1B in debt due, losing money, furloughing and mgmt literally just voted in large raises for themselves. I could be making a terrible decision but I look at it like “there are many reasons to justify making the move, a move I have always wanted to make but couldn’t justify it” . Anyway! Thanks for the insight and congrats on your retirement!
Well said, Joe. As a student pretty early on in my training, I gotta say I really look up to you and admire the career you’ve had so far. What’s happening to Spirit is very unfortunate, but I hope you can enjoy the benefits of switching airlines and filter out the cons. I look ahead and see all the training and hour building ahead of me, and while I love what I do and I’m excited to do it I’d also love to be living the life you’re living right now. Continue to enjoy it and best of luck at the majors.
This is awesome! Congrats on the moves! I can really relate to a lot of what your goig through. Im a student pilot and I will be going for a career. I just turned 42 so this is life part 2 for me. Im going through all the same emotions man I totally get it. From the nerves to excitement. I am going from my successful hvac business to an entry level job but I will take an entry level job doing what I LOVE over a top paying job im no longer happy with. Im going from someone whos looked up to highly in the industry to the bottom which has been very humbling. I should also add that i sold my house and im about to move into my 400 sf lake cabin to get out from my mortgage and not have to worry so much about money and focus on my new career. Im putting it all on the line and I couldnt be more excited. Im up in lake hopatcong I fly out of 1N7 Blairstown and I fly with orlandi flight school. Im in the process of purchasing an airplane. Maybe we can connect in the future. I am looking to meet more people in nj and the area that fly. Im getting my tail wheel also in orlandi's J3. Been enjoying your content and I like your flying style. Best of luck in this new journey. I feel this is a great move for you and im excited for you as well!
Hey! I was just in Blairstown last week for breakfast! Lol. We can definitely link up. It will be worth it! Even the worst day as an airline pilot beats the best day doing something else! Funny, I was in my crawl space yesterday looking at a leaking condenser pump and said to myself “they couldn’t pay me enough to work in these conditions “ 😂😂. Keep in touch and shoot me an email or something and I’ll let you know when I’m up that way again
Industry is always cyclical but I think (hope) hiring will continue. There is still a lot of retirements and Boeing can hopefully get their act together
If you expect a guaranteed job in life, go to work for the Bureau of Prisons.............other than that, there is risk in life and employment. I think you made a good move. Good luck!
Great video Joe! Beautiful scenery, and your content is spot-on, you laid out well the current landscape of the airline industry. I wish you good luck, and just remember….we often don’t know how good our decisions were until we look back after retirement.
Hey man, can relate. I changed this year from a low cost carrier to a legacy carrier in Europe. My motivation was slightly different. I didn’t want to commute anymore, so my lifestyle would be better. It is. Yes moving from left to right has challenges, yes the financial hit sucks, but for me, it’s worth it. Cheers.
Been in the business for 44 years and have 10 months to go I actually agree with your decision. I enjoy international flying much more than domestic so hopefully it all works out for you.
Good luck Joe, I wish I had taken the opportunity offered to me many years ago,but.....I have a friend who retired from UAL, and was sorry to leave because he was treated so well by the company as a whole. I'm sure you will be fine. At Osh look up a friend of mine, Danny Clisham one of the annoucers for the airshow, he retired ftom AL a few years ago, I'm sure he would be helpful with the "legacy difference". Fair skies and tailwinds Joe.
Nice move and grats! I just did the same thing, but at age 50. I left SWA after 16 years (6 years as Captain). I jumped over to AA to drastically improve my quality of life by living in base. I am excited to fly different airplanes and experience wide body flying. It’s cool to see others taking advantage of this fast moving industry in these good times.
Similar, I was fat dumb and happy at a regional for 20 years. Haven’t missed a holiday or kids birthday in years. At 48 I’m like I need a change ( similar money wasn’t my main motivation wife does well etc) . But I took the jump to a major and was worried about being a FO agin ( it’s hard at first not gonna lie) and new ops differences. Well year 3 about to upgrade and it was the best decision 👍🏼👍🏼
You made the right choice. I was a 17 yr ramp agent for Southwest and SWA has turned into a Hostile and Toxic work environment. Terrible leadership as Bob Jordan , Gary Kelly, etc. continue to destroy Herb's legacy. Sad to hear about Elliott Management and Paul Singer wanting to take out the trash at the palace but it needs to be done. All the best of luck to you.
Joe I’ve been watching your videos on Instagram for a while now and didn’t know you had a UA-cam haha, But I just wanted to say congratulations man you deserve it! I’m currently a student pilot in a 141 school and I genuinely love it all. I’m still very new to it all I only have about 26 hr for my private pilot certificate. I look to you and some other aviation creators for inspiration so thank you and I think is never yo late to follow that dream job.
Very excited for you Joe. I only wish you were coming to AA so I could fly with you. I guess we’ll just have to meet up sometime on a grass strip in NJ or NY.
One more thing. Always take every upgrade you can stomache. If commute or reserve is not for you dont do it. You could be stuck there forever with recession. Im done but It will be a ball for you. 😊
You won’t regret it. You’ll experience so much more with the move across, international is also a hoot. Here in New Zealand progression can be slow our fleet sizes are relatively small compared to the US and nobody resigns they only retire once in the national carrier. I spent 11 years in the regional turbo props (beech 1900D/ATR -72) before transferring across to the jet fleet at 36 and starting back at the bottom of the seniority. I’ve been a second officer now on the B777-300/B787-9 for nearly 9 years and have loved every moment. Fo upgrade on the 787 due in the next 12 months. I could have gone Fo A320 a long while ago but just enjoy long haul too much and have held out for FO 787/777 instead. I also took a while to move on from the previous job as I was a training captain on the ATR but haven’t regretted a second and now make more money than the left seat. Good luck
@@Bananasssssssss yeah totally get it, like most change it's not the most comfortable at first having to leave the comfort bubble, but once you're on the other side it's usually a "I'm glad I did that" or a "Why did I wait so long?"
I don't think that you'll have any LONG term regrets. Short term, probably...make that certainly. Up and down all day in a Bus is great but after a while its just a lot of WORK. A larger airline offers you a lot more options and a lot more stability once you get a few thousand guys behind you. Bid the 777 as soon as you can. See the world. Jam that 16 percent (and any more that you can afford to) into your 401 and retire early. I could write a lot more but you'll figure it all out. I think that you made the right choice. I finally got hired at Brand X at age 40 after over a decade as a commuter puke. I still managed to have a decent career in spite of 9-11, other massive economic downturns, furlough, age 65 stagnation, etc. Good luck. PS....In 5 years on the triple I never once De-iced. Never once got a SWAP route, etc. Hell I used to de-ice 5 times on a single NB trip. Retired now and happy as hell.
Thanks for sharing! And great advice. I know Im going to question my decision when Im really junior getting abused on Reserve but long term 777 F/O is the goal! Lol a good friend of mine is senior on it as an F/O and has a better schedule than me. The difference is he’s making more money and going to Japan while I go to MYR 😂
It's really unfortunate what is going on with Spirit. My buddies and I were counting on their pathway program they have with our University after reaching RATP mins. No telling where that program will end up. I wish you all the best at United! Love the videos!
@@Bananasssssssss thanks for the insight, I'm really hoping it happens. Most of the spirit guys who are alum that I know are doing the same thing, headed over to the legacies.
Joe I’m 45 w/ 1700 hrs TT getting my commercial/ multi here soon with a checkride in the next few weeks. What are you seeing for an old timer with a bunch of GA hrs 18 yr Angel Flt wing leader and 21 yrs of experience as an owner pilot. I’ve heard a lot about this hiring pool is drying up. I hit the AOPA tent a few months ago and Envoy would probably be my #1 choice if they take me. What’s your advice for that intro job? I can go get ATP but I know most will pay for it. Thoughts?
I think the airline hiring environment is slowing down but not so much because of lack of demand. That may be part of it but Boeing and Airbus not being able to deliver A/C is really hindering growth and American was/is really far behind on training so thats an additional reason for them slowing down. I would probably pay for ATP this way when hiring really starts to pick up again you’ll be ready. I will also say, Regional airlines pay & benefits are SIGNIFICANTLY better than just a few years ago so if it takes a little longer to move onto a legacy/LCC it will be less painful
@@Andrew-tb9vr my Current pay rate as a 12yr CA is $308/hr. First year Pay as an F/O is $118/hr-ish at UAL. So at first it’s a massive pay hit, however currently at United (always subject to change) by year 2 you can hold CA (meaning around your one year anniversary), and that pay rate I believe is $343/hr on the 737 (+/- a few bucks). By the end of their current contract it’ll be almost $400/hr. If NK files CH 11 my rate would most likely go from 308 to $250-ish?? (+/- $20) Very hard to say, Just my guess. If NK doesn’t file CH 11 a new CBA with any gains is probably 3-5 years away… also, senior WB F/Os make what I make now as a topped out Spirit CA. Also, at the 121 level it is never a salary. It’s a “base bay of 72” hrs but usually the monthly credit is 80/85hrs or so. Some months more, some months less. Last year when Spirit was short staffed it was pretty easy to credit 120+ hrs a month
You're going to be just fine bro, want to know how I know? Just listen to this again 15:46 , like a good Captain, YOU have the controls. I wish you the best for what's it's worth from a stranger. Gentle landings...
Congratulations on your upcoming job. Buddy, I feel your pain on the decision of whether to stay with a known job, or start over at a new job. I guess everybody at some point goes through that. I was never at an airline. But I was in aviation maintenance, mostly at FBO's working on corporate aircraft. It's a big decision in the age bracket your in, stay with the known comfortable solid aycheck, or go for something new, no seniority, starting at the bottom again, being the new flunky, LOL. Even though it's the same, it's just different. You're far from being old, but old enough that starting day one is still scary. I wish you all the luck at your "new" job. I always told guys on my crews, if you leave for more experience or to gain knowledge and the new position betters you, you are doing the right thing. Experience and knowledge are things that no one can take away from you. You ultimately have to do what is best for you and your family. It's just a different path down the same road. Good luck on your new opportunities and just go in eyes open and rely on what got you where you are now. A Captain i used to work with, mid career, made the same change you're making, and he said going back to an FO position made him a better captain once he got back to being a captain. Again good luck. Keep the runway under you and the blue sky above you. God bless y'all and stay safe out there in the wild blue yonder.
Best of luck with United. A friend of mine just made captain a couple of years ago on the 73 at United. His career has been a good one. Wish I did it it.
I’ve flown 737, A320, A321, 787, 777 all good aircraft, and good type ratings to have on your license for a rainy day! I like Longhaul these days because of the blocks of time off between trips and you go to some cool places, but more tiring thou. Good luck
You’re going to be fine, Joe. We worked together, albeit on different sides of a FFD merger, over 14 years ago and after a 6 year penalty lap at a ULCC with what felt like a rudderless future I also made the escape to a legacy. Zero regrets and being at a near century old operation has its benefits. Good luck!
Good move! Sounds like you’re going in as a F/O? Thought you could transfer as a Captain to UAL? Where ever your going it has to be more secure than spirit.
Wish you the best joe love your flying the cub we are moving from 182 to a cardinal since we are getting older easy to get into, your daughter video made my wifes day, dan
I'm working on my commercial right now and can't decide whether or not I should try to join a pipeline program, specifically united aviate or delta propel. I hear a lot of mixed opinions, even from those I know in the programs. With your experience in the industry, I'm curious what your opinion is. Would you join one if you were a commercial student now?
I personally would. The problem now is the last few years Those starting out have gotten spoiled and hired with very minimum experience. The industry is very cyclical and even now looks like its starting to change again. I would personally love to have the insurance of knowing I have a pathway. The only issue is if that airlines “pathway” program, they may not want to hire you outside of that.
Back in '82 I had a man from Braniff actually come in and apply for a helicopter pilot position flying offshore oil industry. He had a rotor wing commercial certificate, but he was too long away from the machine. I could have trained him up possibly, but when he saw the salary ummm 🤔 🤯🤯 Well, thanks for your time 👍
Definitely, understand your decision, I am in the aerospace industry as a A&P , and every time I changed jobs it was a restart. Now after many years, I am coming to a decision myself to work my way to something more independent and pay scale for the future. Funny thing I still can't afford an airplane..lol
@@Bananassssssssswell, not really. you have 12 yrs at an airline behind you, as a qualified captain, with loads of jet 121/135 hours forgive me im not there yet but anyways… you have loads of experience in terms of competition on anybody else say a CFI with cessna hours trying to get hired
@@idekav. It is true. Note though definitely get as many Certs as you can, and some years in, but still one takes a paycut in most cases when changing jobs. Reasons most techs and pilots stay put because of benefits, Union seniority, and pay.
@@SkyDomeVIZE yeah that sucks, From a Hiring standpoint it’s advantageous but if you’re already a family man with good QOL and now you have to deal with junior schedules… I sympathize with you guys. I’m almost at CFI, but I do a lot of research and this aspect of the airlines always intrigues me.
I’m too old to go back…but I miss it. You’re probably moving at the right time, though you may get locked on reserve for a year or two. Take a page from Blancolirio’s book: Stay in the right seat and enjoy the piss out of life.
I had the same issue. #52 at Horizon in 1986. Either would be alright but jump to Northwest. Never look back. Go domestic. International is a killer of health in many ways. Lost mine for a 10$ override. Fly to Disneyland. Good luck. 😊
Joe did you ever consider FedEx or UPS or I tell you what about a lot of airline pilots want to go there and retire I'm just curious if you had a reason for not looking at them
Got you, My Nephew is left seat withnet Jets, He applied for atlas to try to go to 747's But they had some issues and he said the 747 school was pretty tough and went back to net Jets but his dresm is big and he is wanting to get in with UPS. Only reason I ask. Your a good pilot new flew with you in person but would be at ease if I was in your plane. Good Luck and wiss you the best.
Great video Joe, well explained situation at Spirit. There's other aspects to life than being tied to one airline and there's always more to experience with aviation. I'm less than a year at Spirit and lucky to have a few options out there for me to go.
Thanks! It’s odd. When the merger was blocked I was in kind of a crappy place mentally but looking at it now, maybe it’s kind of blessing. I don’t know, we’ll see. (I’m sure the first year or so The schedule and significantly smaller paychecks will have me questioning my decisions 😂)
Ngl seems like a dumb move for you. Only makes sense to me if you think Spirit is going under. Youll start off at 17k, move up 500 a year, itll take you about 7-8 years minimum to hold captain as a line holder (unless you get that "lucky" CA bid since no one wants to be reserve at United). Thats a loss of a minimum 700k once you upgrade, thatll take another 14-15 years to make up, plus loss of seniority and time off. Only thing better there for you is the international routes are great.
It could turn out to be dumb but hard to say. I have a friend who is 98% in base as 737 CAs in EWR and their schedule is not awful. (Was actually perfect type of schedule for me) They are on Reserve (I’ve never been anything but a bottom bottom line holder at NK) so RSV with some weekends off is fine with me. (Friend can hold all weekends off on RSV in June, something I can’t hold at Spirit) Financially speaking if I do upgrade in a year or two It won’t be hard to make up the lost income. I have no idea what Spirits future CBA will look like but the reality is, ULCCs will unfortunately always be years behind when it comes to CBAs. The business model used to always work when it was subsidized by lower labor but the last few years the labor costs have gone up, legacies have gotten better at offering basic economy etc. I don’t, just thinking out loud…
@@Bananasssssssss This is all true. May the tailwinds keep blowing and good luck at United. Hopefully those new hire CA bids come quick for ya, and even if they don’t those international routes on the 75/76 will be nice to do for a while!
The fiance was accepted at Southwest Cadet program ..... she is reporting to Denton Tx for training in Oct. Im 52 she is 33 Ill stick with CFI-S lol We are both Sport Pilots and have PPL checkrides this month and next month. Good luck I fly United KMFR -> DEN -> TPA and Back once or twice a month.
Hahah, yeah but it’s not like a 40hr work week. Pilots usually credit “1,000-1500hrs” a year. Not block but flight credit. Lotta money compared to the lost decade post 2001
You’re so lucky, I qualified almost 14 years ago and still can’t find a meaningful flying job at 40yrs old in Europe, 700h TT and even done some instructing. I could only dream of becoming a first officer on an A320 let alone captain. Anyway all the best👨✈️✈️ 💫
Congrats on the move. I think it will work out for you in the long run. One thing to be cautious of though is a crazy high percentage of United pilots have been hired in the last 3 years. Alot of very young guys. Also if and when the market tanks the international and premium options are the first to go and that stuff kills the legacies. Hire till they furlough.
Yeah. I thought post Covid the legacies were in for a rough time, lol. I was wrong. I think legacies have done a good job of generating multiple revenue streams vs ulccs. (CCs, business, intl etc). It is pretty frustrating that I’ll be thousands junior to younger, way less experienced guys & girls but thats how it goes, not mad about it but do wish the timing of all Of this was different.
Sorry to leave you a little negative feedback, but I am a CFI in the SF Bay Area that never had interest in joining an airline. My son is in an airline cadet program and I always taught him and my students to Aviate, Navigate and Communicate. If you are bringing cameras on board find yourself another instructor. Good luck to you in your career choice but let's practice safety in the cockpit and to those flying around us. Thanks for the learning tool on things not to do while flying!!
@@SFArun-wt5pz if you can’t speak while flying, you probably aren’t a good CFI. Being able to multi-task is a crucial skill in Instructing. The camera is literally in a position where My attention is regardless if a camera is there or not.
@@Bananasssssssss It's called a sterile cockpit on takeoff and landing. I'm not trying to be negative here, I'm trying to teach good habits, sorry you feel that I am not being safe but lets leave the unnecessary multi-tasking on the ground 😀
@@SFArun-wt5pz I understand your concern! No offense taken. But just so we’re clear, Sterile cockpit is a 121 reg…. I don’t want anyone to assume what I’m doing is against Regs. Thats all 😁
Good move, which I recommended last month. It’s a no brainer, and you were smart to not hang on to a losing situation like so many pilots do. You should have gone to Delta, but UAL is the next best financially, and either will be fantastic for someone who can drive to NYC or Newark to fly out of a junior base. Well done, best wishes on your new career!
Best to you Joe in this big move. Love your videos of you flying your two classic airplanes…. Not to mention your awesome hangar. I’ve always thought that you look like the captain I want flying the airplane as I board a commercial aircraft and do my glance into the flight deck…. Minus the white hair, at least for now. This is not to slight the many fine gals also up front doing the flying.
I had an application in at spirit . Coming from another low cost airline . I thought it was lateral b.s move . I went to a legacy (by the grace of the lord) …that’s the thing about legacies I’m Not saying they’re untouchable but they’re almost * like banks …..chase = delta, Wells Fargo = American, Bank of America = United ……they’re almost not allowed to fail.
Come to Flexjet! Year 1 pay $175k. 8 month upgrade time. Fantastic company. Quality of life is excellent. We just don’t quite have the same retirement package as airlines but quality of life is better.
At 40 I did a career adjustment. After 20 years, I don't regret the move at all. Safe travels to you. I will continue to watch your IG's and YT posts.... don't stop posting.
Thanks!
Are you a pilot? Or some other industry? I’m curious what you were doing and what you changed to. I just turned 40; have been in the same industry my entire career. But have wondered whether I have the energy to make a change. I’m so curious about people who actually did it.
@@andrew5184 I’m a pilot. I do fly with quite a few people who were on their “second career”
None of them ever say they regret it
@@Bananasssssssss Thanks for sharing your story. Glad to find your channel. @GeorgesAdventure-LetsGO what’s your story?
@@andrew5184, I went from a hourly construction worker to an engineer. I went to school full time at 39 and graduated at 41. The big decision was planning finances during the time. I sold my nice truck, bought a beater Honda, got a part time job and basically school was my job. I did a 4 year degree in 2.5 years.
Congrats on making the move! That's really a lot to walk away from but now you'll never have to look back and wonder "what if." I'm sure you'll enjoy the widebody flying and layovers, blue skies!
I hope so! and thank you!
Joe! Love your channel… you and I are alike in that we own vintage planes (47’ 11BC Chief here) and are airline pilots. I was at Endeavor for almost 8 years and went to Delta in Mar 23’. Now, I don’t know how the LCC vs Wholly Owned Regional would compare, but I will say a few things from my experience.
The best line at EDV was still worse, than the worst line at DAL.
The legacy airlines just treat their pilots better. This was a huge shock (and still is).
I don’t feel like the sky is falling anymore, I was getting very anxious to leave EDV.
I’m on the 737, and it’s a great plane. It hardly has an MEL. It flies like an airplane, and the systems aren’t hard at all. The CRJ I flew before is more complex.
Keep it up Joe! I’m happy and excited for you. Keep us updated.
@@JJay512 thank you!
As long as you keep posting Cub videos, I don't care!
Now, being serious, the only way to grow is getting out of the comfort zone. You have a career that many of us can only dream about. I would not worry about the future, I would fly it.
Greetings from Spain!
Thank you! And definitely will keep on posting Cub/Chief stuff for sure
Best of luck on your new journey! Hoping you get a class date soon.
I’m a CFI/II with 720hrs and I’m really hoping things pick up after a few months. There are a few CFIs at my school with 1500+hrs and no job offer. 😭😭😭
Fret not.
This whole situation is because of the election. Once we're past that, there is still an enormous hole the airlines need to fill. No other choice.
Look up "Raven Aviation News" or something like that. They do a great job emailing with updates about the industry
Don't stress anymore bro. Follow your heart and do what you love, the money will come! 💯
UA-cam just recommended your channel to me and I can’t tell you how helpful this was as I am at the decision point as a CFI. And you are right across the water from my airport so this advice became incredibly real. Thank you.
You're making the right decision. Don't look back or second guess yourself. You'll get that seniority back up soon enough.
Thanks!
Thats a big step. Love the Cub and Chief content. I’m sure you will continue to enjoy “flying the friendly skies” at your new carrier.😉
Thanks!
I like how this guy can casually land a taildragger with wind rushing by him at like 70kmh and just talk to a camera non scripted easily without any cuts, Amazing good luck!
Thank you!
Funny POV when looking at you flying from the back with legs wrapped around the seat and instruments up front 😂. In a tail wheel tandem I never really seen this veiw. Looks awkward but I know that’s how they fly.
His name is Joe Biden.@@Bananasssssssss
Your experience stays with you and benefits both you and your Captain when you come over to a legacy. I had 17 years at the regionals when I came over. Best of luck to you.
Thank you. Looking forward to it
You got this man! I have no doubt this will be the right choice in the long run 🤙
Good luck! You will do great! Glad you followed your passion and heart.
You got this brother. This is a good choice. Better longeviety with a legacy.
Thanks brother! We’ll celebrate over some Beers at Osh!
This is definitely one of your best videos ever! Thanks for sharing your and your fam’s thought process about moving to what is next, which sounds beyond terrific!! Big time congrats on the new job!
Thank you so much!! I really appreciate it
Wishing you a super successful move to your new job, sounds like the most logical thing to do given the way the industry works.
You’re still young. Good move!
Neat! You have a
Great attitude and will hav good success. Keep flying that cub and bring us along.
Thanks! Will do!
Wishing you the best on this Joe !! It will all work out fine !!! Embrace change, that is 99.9 % of life's challenge.
Thank you!
Congratulations, Joe Costanza! I cannot tell you how pleased I am that you're going to come join us, you're really making the right decision. This operation is a giant juggernaut with several completely different companies available for you to enjoy, even when you're junior. You can be the junior Airbus Captain, driving to cover stuff at LGA, in an airplane you've been flying, with the opportunity to at least get qualified on some interesting flying like Morocco or Cairo, but mostly covering sick calls or sitting short call. Or you can be a widebody FO, flying to Europe and Hawaii with some nice domestic destination thrown in.
When you show up for indoc you'll realize how different this is from where you're at. Message me up when you're in Portland, we'll go fly the Stearman, I'll put you in back. (Isn't that funny? I don't even know you, but having watched your videos, I know you're capable.)
Welcome, Bruddah!
Ha! thank you! really excited to get started!
I'm previous NK dispatcher and now manager of flight dispatch at NK (Blake Roark). I'm sure I've dispatched you many times. Hate to see you and senior guys like you go, but def understandable. The future can be a bit questionable for sure. Good luck to you my friend!
Thanks Blake! And the name 100% sounds familiar!
Following your heart is always the right decision mate regardless of the unknowns. Grab the opportunity with both hands as our dream job doesn't always present itself. Congrats on the next exciting phase!
Thank you!
Welcome to United Joe. Worked with you at XJT. I think you've made the correct choice. Love your channel.
Thanks! Looking forward to seeing my fellow XJTrs (G7896) 😄
I remember when you posted about this thinking about it. I mentioned it's time to do it and that time is now. You replied and seemed unsure still. I'm glad you made the decision and went with it. It will be great for you.
Thanks! Excited to make the move.
Follow your dreams brother.. I've lived in 11 countries and had 6 different careers and loved every single second of it! Greetings and congratulations from just outside of Newark NJ 🛩️🛩️🛩️
Thank you!
some the flying united does into Central and South America looks extremely rewarding and challenging.
I’ve done a lot of that at Spirit but they are always turns. I’m looking forward to laying over there for sure
Something to think about. You’re leaving a good seniority position to start at the bottom during a time when the economy is questionable and hard economic times are coming. Spirit would have to furlough more than 2000 pilots to move you out of your position. I retired from Spirit and miss it terribly. Only you know what’s good for you and your family. I wish you the best.
Thanks Tim. It definitely concerns me and I worry about the economy. Spirit has been incredible but I just don’t know what the future holds. We will have 70 A/C parked in 2025, have 1B in debt due, losing money, furloughing and mgmt literally just voted in large raises for themselves. I could be making a terrible decision but I look at it like “there are many reasons to justify making the move, a move I have always wanted to make but couldn’t justify it” . Anyway! Thanks for the insight and congrats on your retirement!
@@Bananasssssssssnow seems like the time to move man. Move before it’s too late for sure
Well said, Joe. As a student pretty early on in my training, I gotta say I really look up to you and admire the career you’ve had so far. What’s happening to Spirit is very unfortunate, but I hope you can enjoy the benefits of switching airlines and filter out the cons. I look ahead and see all the training and hour building ahead of me, and while I love what I do and I’m excited to do it I’d also love to be living the life you’re living right now. Continue to enjoy it and best of luck at the majors.
Thanks Ryan! Really appreciate that.
Wish you all the best Joe, strongly suspect you’ll do great no matter what.👊🏻
Thank you, sincerely appreciate that.
Wishing you much luck and success! Great video!
Thank you!
This is awesome! Congrats on the moves! I can really relate to a lot of what your goig through. Im a student pilot and I will be going for a career. I just turned 42 so this is life part 2 for me. Im going through all the same emotions man I totally get it. From the nerves to excitement. I am going from my successful hvac business to an entry level job but I will take an entry level job doing what I LOVE over a top paying job im no longer happy with. Im going from someone whos looked up to highly in the industry to the bottom which has been very humbling. I should also add that i sold my house and im about to move into my 400 sf lake cabin to get out from my mortgage and not have to worry so much about money and focus on my new career. Im putting it all on the line and I couldnt be more excited.
Im up in lake hopatcong I fly out of 1N7 Blairstown and I fly with orlandi flight school. Im in the process of purchasing an airplane. Maybe we can connect in the future. I am looking to meet more people in nj and the area that fly. Im getting my tail wheel also in orlandi's J3.
Been enjoying your content and I like your flying style.
Best of luck in this new journey. I feel this is a great move for you and im excited for you as well!
Hey! I was just in Blairstown last week for breakfast! Lol. We can definitely link up. It will be worth it! Even the worst day as an airline pilot beats the best day doing something else! Funny, I was in my crawl space yesterday looking at a leaking condenser pump and said to myself “they couldn’t pay me enough to work in these conditions “ 😂😂. Keep in touch and shoot me an email or something and I’ll let you know when I’m up that way again
Big change, top ledge of seniority at the legacy’s is huge. 40 years +
I'm at a 135 and 1200 hours watching the industry in fascination. Hoping the industry rights itself by the end of the year when I get my ATP.
Industry is always cyclical but I think (hope) hiring will continue. There is still a lot of retirements and Boeing can hopefully get their act together
If you expect a guaranteed job in life, go to work for the Bureau of Prisons.............other than that, there is risk in life and employment. I think you made a good move. Good luck!
Great video Joe! Beautiful scenery, and your content is spot-on, you laid out well the current landscape of the airline industry. I wish you good luck, and just remember….we often don’t know how good our decisions were until we look back after retirement.
Thank you!
Hey man, can relate. I changed this year from a low cost carrier to a legacy carrier in Europe. My motivation was slightly different. I didn’t want to commute anymore, so my lifestyle would be better. It is. Yes moving from left to right has challenges, yes the financial hit sucks, but for me, it’s worth it. Cheers.
Thanks!
Been in the business for 44 years and have 10 months to go I actually agree with your decision. I enjoy international flying much more than domestic so hopefully it all works out for you.
Thank you!
Good luck Joe, I wish I had taken the opportunity offered to me many years ago,but.....I have a friend who retired from UAL, and was sorry to leave because he was treated so well by the company as a whole. I'm sure you will be fine.
At Osh look up a friend of mine, Danny Clisham one of the annoucers for the airshow, he retired ftom AL a few years ago, I'm sure he would be helpful with the "legacy difference". Fair skies and tailwinds Joe.
Thank you, I appreciate that and will pick his brain if I get the chance to meet him at Ash...
Good Luck! You will do great!
Thank you!
Nice move and grats! I just did the same thing, but at age 50. I left SWA after 16 years (6 years as Captain). I jumped over to AA to drastically improve my quality of life by living in base. I am excited to fly different airplanes and experience wide body flying. It’s cool to see others taking advantage of this fast moving industry in these good times.
Similar, I was fat dumb and happy at a regional for 20 years. Haven’t missed a holiday or kids birthday in years. At 48 I’m like I need a change ( similar money wasn’t my main motivation wife does well etc) . But I took the jump to a major and was worried about being a FO agin ( it’s hard at first not gonna lie) and new ops differences. Well year 3 about to upgrade and it was the best decision 👍🏼👍🏼
You made the right choice. I was a 17 yr ramp agent for Southwest and SWA has turned into a Hostile and Toxic work environment. Terrible leadership as Bob Jordan , Gary Kelly, etc. continue to destroy Herb's legacy. Sad to hear about Elliott Management and Paul Singer wanting to take out the trash at the palace but it needs to be done. All the best of luck to you.
Joe I’ve been watching your videos on Instagram for a while now and didn’t know you had a UA-cam haha, But I just wanted to say congratulations man you deserve it!
I’m currently a student pilot in a 141 school and I genuinely love it all. I’m still very new to it all I only have about 26 hr for my private pilot certificate. I look to you and some other aviation creators for inspiration so thank you and I think is never yo late to follow that dream job.
Thanks dude! Appreciate that!
Very excited for you Joe. I only wish you were coming to AA so I could fly with you. I guess we’ll just have to meet up sometime on a grass strip in NJ or NY.
Thank you! Meeting up on a grass strip sounds like a perfect alternative!
Congrats! Hope to see you in training!
Thank you!
Good for you man!! Follow your heart for sure! Best of luck to you at UA!
I appreciate it!
One more thing. Always take every upgrade you can stomache. If commute or reserve is not for you dont do it. You could be stuck there forever with recession. Im done but It will be a ball for you. 😊
Joe, welcome to United! I’ve flown with many new F/O’s that have moved over from Frontier, Spirit and Allegiant. Not one had regrets.
Thank you!
You won’t regret it. You’ll experience so much more with the move across, international is also a hoot.
Here in New Zealand progression can be slow our fleet sizes are relatively small compared to the US and nobody resigns they only retire once in the national carrier.
I spent 11 years in the regional turbo props (beech 1900D/ATR -72) before transferring across to the jet fleet at 36 and starting back at the bottom of the seniority. I’ve been a second officer now on the B777-300/B787-9 for nearly 9 years and have loved every moment. Fo upgrade on the 787 due in the next 12 months. I could have gone Fo A320 a long while ago but just enjoy long haul too much and have held out for FO 787/777 instead. I also took a while to move on from the previous job as I was a training captain on the ATR but haven’t regretted a second and now make more money than the left seat. Good luck
That’s one plane I always wished I flew. The ATR!
Was wondering if/when you were gonna jump ship, have been watching the news at Spirit and I think you're making the right decision. Congrats man
Thank you! bittersweet for sure. Excited to get started but going to miss the comfort of Spirit.
@@Bananasssssssss yeah totally get it, like most change it's not the most comfortable at first having to leave the comfort bubble, but once you're on the other side it's usually a "I'm glad I did that" or a "Why did I wait so long?"
@@Splint993 100% that's what I hear from my old Spirit Pals' "Should have done it sooner"
Good luck brother!
Thank you!
I don't think that you'll have any LONG term regrets. Short term, probably...make that certainly. Up and down all day in a Bus is great but after a while its just a lot of WORK. A larger airline offers you a lot more options and a lot more stability once you get a few thousand guys behind you. Bid the 777 as soon as you can. See the world. Jam that 16 percent (and any more that you can afford to) into your 401 and retire early. I could write a lot more but you'll figure it all out. I think that you made the right choice. I finally got hired at Brand X at age 40 after over a decade as a commuter puke. I still managed to have a decent career in spite of 9-11, other massive economic downturns, furlough, age 65 stagnation, etc. Good luck. PS....In 5 years on the triple I never once De-iced. Never once got a SWAP route, etc. Hell I used to de-ice 5 times on a single NB trip. Retired now and happy as hell.
Thanks for sharing! And great advice. I know Im going to question my decision when Im really junior getting abused on Reserve but long term 777 F/O is the goal! Lol a good friend of mine is senior on it as an F/O and has a better schedule than me. The difference is he’s making more money and going to Japan while I go to MYR 😂
It's really unfortunate what is going on with Spirit. My buddies and I were counting on their pathway program they have with our University after reaching RATP mins. No telling where that program will end up. I wish you all the best at United! Love the videos!
thank you! and hang in there, I foresee a NK/F9 merger and the need for recalls/hiring hopefully in the future
@@Bananasssssssss thanks for the insight, I'm really hoping it happens. Most of the spirit guys who are alum that I know are doing the same thing, headed over to the legacies.
congrats and really interesting to hear. thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
The studious Airport BUM......U got it MADE IN DA SHADE.......We love ya JOE!!!
Joe I’m 45 w/ 1700 hrs TT getting my commercial/ multi here soon with a checkride in the next few weeks. What are you seeing for an old timer with a bunch of GA hrs 18 yr Angel Flt wing leader and 21 yrs of experience as an owner pilot. I’ve heard a lot about this hiring pool is drying up. I hit the AOPA tent a few months ago and Envoy would probably be my #1 choice if they take me. What’s your advice for that intro job? I can go get ATP but I know most will pay for it. Thoughts?
I think the airline hiring environment is slowing down but not so much because of lack of demand. That may be part of it but Boeing and Airbus not being able to deliver A/C is really hindering growth and American was/is really far behind on training so thats an additional reason for them slowing down. I would probably pay for ATP this way when hiring really starts to pick up again you’ll be ready. I will also say, Regional airlines pay & benefits are SIGNIFICANTLY better than just a few years ago so if it takes a little longer to move onto a legacy/LCC it will be less painful
I was prepared to do the Delta ATP. I heard that will help on their hiring process later. Not sure if that’s correct or will hold by then.
Respect the legacy and dont water it down with shortcuts from a lesser operation.
I got to ask. Are you taking a 50% cut in salary? How does total compensation work out?
@@Andrew-tb9vr my Current pay rate as a 12yr CA is $308/hr. First year Pay as an F/O is $118/hr-ish at UAL. So at first it’s a massive pay hit, however currently at United (always subject to change) by year 2 you can hold CA (meaning around your one year anniversary), and that pay rate I believe is $343/hr on the 737 (+/- a few bucks). By the end of their current contract it’ll be almost $400/hr. If NK files CH 11 my rate would most likely go from 308 to $250-ish?? (+/- $20) Very hard to say, Just my guess. If NK doesn’t file CH 11 a new CBA with any gains is probably 3-5 years away… also, senior WB F/Os make what I make now as a topped out Spirit CA. Also, at the 121 level it is never a salary. It’s a “base bay of 72” hrs but usually the monthly credit is 80/85hrs or so. Some months more, some months less. Last year when Spirit was short staffed it was pretty easy to credit 120+ hrs a month
You're going to be just fine bro, want to know how I know? Just listen to this again 15:46 , like a good Captain, YOU have the controls.
I wish you the best for what's it's worth from a stranger. Gentle landings...
Thank you Patrick! Much appreciated
We did it Joe!! 😊
Hahahaahah
Congratulations on your upcoming job.
Buddy, I feel your pain on the decision of whether to stay with a known job, or start over at a new job.
I guess everybody at some point goes through that.
I was never at an airline. But I was in aviation maintenance, mostly at FBO's working on corporate aircraft. It's a big decision in the age bracket your in, stay with the known comfortable solid aycheck, or go for something new, no seniority, starting at the bottom again, being the new flunky, LOL. Even though it's the same, it's just different.
You're far from being old, but old enough that starting day one is still scary.
I wish you all the luck at your "new" job. I always told guys on my crews, if you leave for more experience or to gain knowledge and the new position betters you, you are doing the right thing. Experience and knowledge are things that no one can take away from you.
You ultimately have to do what is best for you and your family. It's just a different path down the same road.
Good luck on your new opportunities and just go in eyes open and rely on what got you where you are now.
A Captain i used to work with, mid career, made the same change you're making, and he said going back to an FO position made him a better captain once he got back to being a captain.
Again good luck. Keep the runway under you and the blue sky above you.
God bless y'all and stay safe out there in the wild blue yonder.
Thank you for that! much appreciated.
Best of luck to you, Joe.
Thanks Anthony!
Best of luck with United. A friend of mine just made captain a couple of years ago on the 73 at United. His career has been a good one. Wish I did it it.
Thank you!
@@Bananasssssssssenjoy your videos. Hope you keep them up. Again good luck with United.
I’ve flown 737, A320, A321, 787, 777 all good aircraft, and good type ratings to have on your license for a rainy day! I like Longhaul these days because of the blocks of time off between trips and you go to some cool places, but more tiring thou. Good luck
Thanks! Yeah I’m pretty rough when it comes to redeye long haul flying but still would like to try it
You’re going to be fine, Joe. We worked together, albeit on different sides of a FFD merger, over 14 years ago and after a 6 year penalty lap at a ULCC with what felt like a rudderless future I also made the escape to a legacy. Zero regrets and being at a near century old operation has its benefits. Good luck!
Thanks Josh! Appreciate that!
it will be worth it in a couple of years!
Best of luck!
Thank you! Really appreciate it
Good move! Sounds like you’re going in as a F/O? Thought you could transfer as a Captain to UAL? Where ever your going it has to be more secure than spirit.
Yeah I’ll start as an F/O but upgrade is relatively Junior in Newark on the 737
Wish you the best joe love your flying the cub we are moving from 182 to a cardinal since we are getting older easy to get into, your daughter video made my wifes day, dan
Thanks Dan! there is a Cardinal across from me and they are really beautiful airplanes! Enjoy!
Good luck buddy. It’ll def be worth it.
Thanks 👍
I'm working on my commercial right now and can't decide whether or not I should try to join a pipeline program, specifically united aviate or delta propel. I hear a lot of mixed opinions, even from those I know in the programs. With your experience in the industry, I'm curious what your opinion is. Would you join one if you were a commercial student now?
I personally would. The problem now is the last few years Those starting out have gotten spoiled and hired with very minimum experience. The industry is very cyclical and even now looks like its starting to change again. I would personally love to have the insurance of knowing I have a pathway. The only issue is if that airlines “pathway” program, they may not want to hire you outside of that.
Back in '82 I had a man from Braniff actually come in and apply for a helicopter pilot position flying offshore oil industry. He had a rotor wing commercial certificate, but he was too long away from the machine. I could have trained him up possibly, but when he saw the salary ummm 🤔 🤯🤯 Well, thanks for your time 👍
G,day Captain Joe from Sydney Australia. Great story about the domestic airlines. Did you do a college degree before flying?
🌏🇦🇺
Hey! I got a History degree actually! Lol
Definitely, understand your decision, I am in the aerospace industry as a A&P , and every time I changed jobs it was a restart. Now after many years, I am coming to a decision myself to work my way to something more independent and pay scale for the future. Funny thing I still can't afford an airplane..lol
Yeah it's brutal. Aviation, where experience matters most yet means the least when looking for a new Job, lol
@@Bananassssssssswell, not really. you have 12 yrs at an airline behind you, as a qualified captain, with loads of jet 121/135 hours forgive me im not there yet but anyways… you have loads of experience in terms of competition on anybody else say a CFI with cessna hours trying to get hired
@@idekav. true
@@idekav. It is true. Note though definitely get as many Certs as you can, and some years in, but still one takes a paycut in most cases when changing jobs. Reasons most techs and pilots stay put because of benefits, Union seniority, and pay.
@@SkyDomeVIZE yeah that sucks, From a Hiring standpoint it’s advantageous but if you’re already a family man with good QOL and now you have to deal with junior schedules… I sympathize with you guys. I’m almost at CFI, but I do a lot of research and this aspect of the airlines always intrigues me.
I’m too old to go back…but I miss it. You’re probably moving at the right time, though you may get locked on reserve for a year or two. Take a page from Blancolirio’s book: Stay in the right seat and enjoy the piss out of life.
I have some buddys who do just that on the 777. They are at the airport almost as much as me tinkering with their Stearmans, lol
Welcome to Mother U Joe. Happy to have you here. Wear that Half Wing. It’ll save you some
$$$. 😉
Can't wait!
Nice move. AAL may have slowed down their class dates, but retirements keep on going at 2 or 3 a day.
Yeah, they definitely have the most retirements.
I had the same issue. #52 at Horizon in 1986. Either would be alright but jump to Northwest. Never look back. Go domestic. International is a killer of health in many ways. Lost mine for a 10$ override. Fly to Disneyland. Good luck. 😊
Joe did you ever consider FedEx or UPS or I tell you what about a lot of airline pilots want to go there and retire I'm just curious if you had a reason for not looking at them
Briefly thought about but not sure I’d like that type of flying. I also am not sure about the growth opportunity there thanks to Amazon etc…
Got you, My Nephew is left seat withnet Jets, He applied for atlas to try to go to 747's But they had some issues and he said the 747 school was pretty tough and went back to net Jets but his dresm is big and he is wanting to get in with UPS. Only reason I ask. Your a good pilot new flew with you in person but would be at ease if I was in your plane. Good Luck and wiss you the best.
Great video Joe, well explained situation at Spirit. There's other aspects to life than being tied to one airline and there's always more to experience with aviation. I'm less than a year at Spirit and lucky to have a few options out there for me to go.
Thanks! It’s odd. When the merger was blocked I was in kind of a crappy place mentally but looking at it now, maybe it’s kind of blessing. I don’t know, we’ll see. (I’m sure the first year or so The schedule and significantly smaller paychecks will have me questioning my decisions 😂)
Ngl seems like a dumb move for you. Only makes sense to me if you think Spirit is going under. Youll start off at 17k, move up 500 a year, itll take you about 7-8 years minimum to hold captain as a line holder (unless you get that "lucky" CA bid since no one wants to be reserve at United). Thats a loss of a minimum 700k once you upgrade, thatll take another 14-15 years to make up, plus loss of seniority and time off. Only thing better there for you is the international routes are great.
It could turn out to be dumb but hard to say. I have a friend who is 98% in base as 737 CAs in EWR and their schedule is not awful. (Was actually perfect type of schedule for me) They are on Reserve (I’ve never been anything but a bottom bottom line holder at NK) so RSV with some weekends off is fine with me. (Friend can hold all weekends off on RSV in June, something I can’t hold at Spirit) Financially speaking if I do upgrade in a year or two It won’t be hard to make up the lost income. I have no idea what Spirits future CBA will look like but the reality is, ULCCs will unfortunately always be years behind when it comes to CBAs. The business model used to always work when it was subsidized by lower labor but the last few years the labor costs have gone up, legacies have gotten better at offering basic economy etc. I don’t, just thinking out loud…
@@Bananasssssssss This is all true. May the tailwinds keep blowing and good luck at United. Hopefully those new hire CA bids come quick for ya, and even if they don’t those international routes on the 75/76 will be nice to do for a while!
@@evansemerad thank you!
The fiance was accepted at Southwest Cadet program ..... she is reporting to Denton Tx for training in Oct. Im 52 she is 33 Ill stick with CFI-S lol We are both Sport Pilots and have PPL checkrides this month and next month. Good luck I fly United KMFR -> DEN -> TPA and Back once or twice a month.
Thank you! And congratulations to the wife!
The advice I gave many young pilots was …… Think about where you wanna be the last five years of your career, not the next five years.
Absolutely love this quote! Thank you
@@Bananasssssssss
You’re welcome, and good luck!
Where do you live to be in the country and still be close enough to the airport?
NJ
congratulation Joe ! wish you the best at continueed sucess
Thank you! Really appreciate it
NK is losing a good one Joe, best of luck at UAL! This career is a roller coaster
Thank you!
Tough decision but congrats on the new job!
Thank you!
Honest question: why would anyone think they could take their seniority with them? Do some airlines allow that?
No, but other industries/trade unions are like that.
Holy $h1t ! I had no idea pilots made THAT much per hour. I'm not complaining, I'm just surprised.
Hahah, yeah but it’s not like a 40hr work week. Pilots usually credit “1,000-1500hrs” a year. Not block but flight credit. Lotta money compared to the lost decade post 2001
Good luck! It’s difficult to make a career move. I wish you the best.
You’re so lucky, I qualified almost 14 years ago and still can’t find a meaningful flying job at 40yrs old in Europe, 700h TT and even done some instructing. I could only dream of becoming a first officer on an A320 let alone captain. Anyway all the best👨✈️✈️ 💫
Thanks! I’ve flown with a few people who moved to the states for some better opportunities. It’s a shame the landscape is so different there
Great video papi!
Thanks Brosef 😘
@@Bananasssssssss “sEe YoU on tHe LiNe” hahaha
@@austinstroot9910 😂😂😂
Congrats on the move. I think it will work out for you in the long run. One thing to be cautious of though is a crazy high percentage of United pilots have been hired in the last 3 years. Alot of very young guys. Also if and when the market tanks the international and premium options are the first to go and that stuff kills the legacies. Hire till they furlough.
Yeah. I thought post Covid the legacies were in for a rough time, lol. I was wrong. I think legacies have done a good job of generating multiple revenue streams vs ulccs. (CCs, business, intl etc). It is pretty frustrating that I’ll be thousands junior to younger, way less experienced guys & girls but thats how it goes, not mad about it but do wish the timing of all
Of this was different.
Sorry to leave you a little negative feedback, but I am a CFI in the SF Bay Area that never had interest in joining an airline. My son is in an airline cadet program and I always taught him and my students to Aviate, Navigate and Communicate. If you are bringing cameras on board find yourself another instructor. Good luck to you in your career choice but let's practice safety in the cockpit and to those flying around us. Thanks for the learning tool on things not to do while flying!!
@@SFArun-wt5pz if you can’t speak while flying, you probably aren’t a good CFI. Being able to multi-task is a crucial skill in Instructing. The camera is literally in a position where My attention is regardless if a camera is there or not.
@@Bananasssssssss It's called a sterile cockpit on takeoff and landing. I'm not trying to be negative here, I'm trying to teach good habits, sorry you feel that I am not being safe but lets leave the unnecessary multi-tasking on the ground 😀
@@SFArun-wt5pz I understand your concern! No offense taken. But just so we’re clear, Sterile cockpit is a 121 reg…. I don’t want anyone to assume what I’m doing is against Regs. Thats all 😁
Good move, which I recommended last month. It’s a no brainer, and you were smart to not hang on to a losing situation like so many pilots do. You should have gone to Delta, but UAL is the next best financially, and either will be fantastic for someone who can drive to NYC or Newark to fly out of a junior base. Well done, best wishes on your new career!
Thank you! Newark is only an hour drive so not bad at all!
Welcome to UAL.............
Thank you!
You should make a video on your journey!?
Stay at Spirit, max pay to the last day. It will be ok.
Congrats on taking a risk! Risk nothing, gain nothing
Best to you Joe in this big move. Love your videos of you flying your two classic airplanes…. Not to mention your awesome hangar. I’ve always thought that you look like the captain I want flying the airplane as I board a commercial aircraft and do my glance into the flight deck…. Minus the white hair, at least for now. This is not to slight the many fine gals also up front doing the flying.
Much appreciated!
From Big Yellow to Big White?
haha, yup!
I had an application in at spirit . Coming from another low cost airline . I thought it was lateral b.s move . I went to a legacy (by the grace of the lord) …that’s the thing about legacies I’m
Not saying they’re untouchable but they’re almost * like banks …..chase = delta, Wells Fargo = American, Bank of America = United ……they’re almost not allowed to fail.
Legacies have also done a great job of offering a similar “fare” as ULCCs but with a much nicer experience, more dependable airline etc
@@Bananasssssssssyes yes indeed. good luck on the new chapter to you and your family .
Come to Flexjet! Year 1 pay $175k. 8 month upgrade time. Fantastic company. Quality of life is excellent. We just don’t quite have the same retirement package as airlines but quality of life is better.
It’s a lot more than just retirement benefits that are better at a legacy.
I prefer the 121 schedule/lifestyle. I think corporate gigs are great but just not for me.