Integrity is what builds the human magnetic field, or “aura”. When someone says someone has a strong “aura”, you can tell that person has strong integrity.
@@AntiZionistsEatShitAnd accountability. He needs to take responsibility for his failures, yet in the best narcissistic way, he deflects by being GM LeBron, blaming others, etc.
James has longevity stats. He's hasn't put up scoring we've never seen before or rebounding or steals or blocks, assists ect. He needed so much help, played with so many all-stars and yet still couldn't get it done more times than not. He's a false profit
It was never close you guys. MJ’s standard is far too high that we haven’t even discussed how he suddenly leaped past all these (over a dozen easily) other greats along the way. _NO ANTICS OF THIS VARIETY AMONG THEM._ LeNeverTopTen
It's funny how in September-October all we heard was the Lakers won the off-season. How stacked they are. Now, it's the same old narrative with LameBron, NEEDS HELP! Dude has to be the weakest superstar ever.
I’ve been watching sports for close to 40 years. I have NEVER heard of any athlete who needs help as much as LeBronze. When MJ was losing to the Pistons I never heard “Jordan needs more help”. Nope, it’s only LeBronze. No other athlete has ever had the media constantly repeating the “LeBronze needs help!” mantra like LeBronze gets. And the guy can be surrounded by the best players in the game and he’ll STILL get swept in the finals.
One thing I really noticed over the last few days that changed after LA beat the Clippers was how the headlines changed the order of things. After the Clippers victory I saw a bunch of headlines that started out like "LeBron Scores 25 as the Lakers beat the Clippers." But over the course of the recent losses the headlines read more like. "Lakers lose despite LeBron 34" or in the case of his lower scoring outings "Lakers fall to..." It's a subtle change but notice LeBron is first for the victories but the organization is first in the defeats.
Getting 28 in a game is getting 7 points a quarter. 2 layups and a 3 in each quarter. So there's alot of other things that factor on the court, like DEFENSE.
I’m not a Bron hater but I caught my group chat being hypocrites the other day, they were complaining about how Bron needs help that the supporting cast needs to change but I told them before the season & before this recent stretch they loved the supporting cast but after one bad stretch of basketball they basically want a complete overhaul of the roster & I called them on it, Lebron fans are really unbelievable
There the same people that can’t be bothered to watch a game. Just read the headlines and watch goofs like bill “only two years till she’s 18” Simmons. Not to mention sambo Perkins the biggest snake in the world. Anyone who believes this narrative I write off as delusional in all aspects of life.
@@tw3314 - so you’re blaming “the others” for being inconsistent? You do realise that does come down to training and that will come down to the captain/head coach of the team, as they’re the leaders 🤷♂️
LeBron James: "I'm averaging a triple double in the Finals, I'm pretty good" while losing. Michael Jordan: "I have to do a better job of playing with my teammates" also while losing. This right here is enough to end ANY supposed GOAT debate involving James. End of story. One is about actually BEING great, and the other is about telling people how great he thinks he is. 😂😂😂 Absolutely insane.
"I can't win with larry legend and isiah thomas dominating me every season. I need the architect jerry Krause to build be a dynasty team with a great coach during this diluted expansion era."
@@richgreene5038"I need Dwayne Wade, Pat Riley, Ray Allen, Chris Bosh, Anthony Davis, Rajon Rondo, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, Dwight Howard, and the hundreds of teammates and coaches fired along the way to win measely 4 rings (one from a skirmish bubble title in Disney) in 10 tries... Also I wet my pants being guarded by JJ Barrea in 2011, and Choked on Dirk who had flu that week" 🤣🤣
Michael Jordan scored 51 at Age 38 on December 29, 2001. LeBron James scored 25 points at Age 39 on January 7, 2023. LeBron’s fans love being casual prisoners of the moment. Smh 🤦♂️
That is cool. What about the fact that Lebron is WAY better than Jordan at age 38 & 39 with 6 more seasons & playoffs of wear and tear on him than Jordan had at the same age?
@@phillyphan1346no he actually wasn't better at that age because Jordan had knee injuries at that stage which ended his career. Also Leflop plays in the easiest no touch defense era with all of these bums padding stats. Nice try though, I do think Leflop is on some type of PEDs too.
The issue here is the NBA will never reveal these types of analytics. It’s really bad for their product and could the damage the NBA even further. It remains to be seen, years after LBJ retires, will the truth come out? When he gets compared to the new GOAT, will they bring up all these details to hype up the new guy? At the end of the day, people actually love or absolutely hate Bron, but one thing for certain the media is the problem and they always and will continue to hype him up, as long as he makes them money.
LeBron James is the ONLY All-Time Great Player who NEVER took a franchise from the wilderness to an NBA title. Bill Russell, Kareem, Magic, Bird, Zeke, Shaq, Kobe, Timmy, Steph, and of course Michael Jordan all have this accomplishment on their resume, while the self-appointed "King" does NOT. Hell, Dirk Nowitski achieved this in 2011 and that was against LeBron's first "Super Team" that LeBron said was going to win 7 titles, but only came away with 2. It takes true greatness to take a bad or mediocre team to the very top, while LeBron could only get rings by joining teams with establised All Stars. THIS is why I'd take every one of the 11 players I mentioned (yes, Dirk too) ahead of LeBron in the GOAT debate.
@@nicozan1608 lol no, in 95 the Chicago Bulls (5) upset the Charlotte (4) Hornets 3-1 but in the next round they couldn't upset the first seed the Orlando Magic.
When I hear Lefrauds cult say that he left Cleveland because they wouldn't build around him, I ask them what's their excuse 4 him leaving Miami and Cleveland the second time
duuuuuuuuuuuh. he didn't have enough help! they had to build around him (and because they did built around him is why he didn't win. A Pippen v2.0 wanting desperately to be MJ... who would've thought that it wouldnt work)
He left Cleveland after delivering a championship to a state that never wilon anything in any sport. His kids schooling to help them play in better teams and opposition along with LeBron has many Business related things in California that helps make more time his family possible. Can't say Lakers were title contenders before he joined La , if he was just after a ring asap he'd join warriors when Durant left lol.
Wilt had huge numbers too but wasn't able to win the championship. It wasn't until he started to shoot less and pass it off to allow other players to be part of the game that they were able to win. And along the way Wilt now led the league in assists. Numbers mean nothing if it doesn't result in wins and titles.
@@AggravatedMan365Bronny had a cardiac episode (apparently from a congenital condition), and honestly, even if cleared to play again, he shouldn't IMO. There have been too many athletes outside of basketball who died because of heart conditions (most being undiagnosed). A reason for me to prioritise both concussions and cardiac issues equally in medical evaluations, but I digress.
@@jeromegarner7196 it's called social media, social media is something Jordan never had which means there isn't videos being played over with Jordan failing because that would discredit his god like powers according to you Jordan fans.
Why anyone is surprised that a super talented player that has been coddled and propped up since he was in high school takes zero accountability for losing is completely beyond me
If you still doubting MJ. Here's something that should shock you. In the span of 32 months, MJ won 3 finals championships, 3 finals MVP, 3 scoring titles, 2 NBA MVPs, was named All-Defensive 1st team 3 times and missed 0 games. Nobody in the history of the NBA has come close to doing that and I dare you to go look.
from MJs comment, i can deduce, he valued the relationship between him and the other players on the team over the skills they brought to the game. he was more about maximizing the skills his teammates already had. that’s a goat
To be fair player movement back in the 90s wasn’t what it is now. More players would’ve been moving if the 90s bulls played in 2024. Pippen probably would’ve requested a trade after Jordan’s retirement and there wouldn’t be another chance to three peat.
@@mattmmixes bums don't. competitive players want to play competitive games. they dont want to play weak opponents and have things handed to them. they want to EARN them. they want to beat the best. that's what changed. players are soft and dont care enough to fight for the trophy or their legacy.
What annoys the most about the Jordan-LeBron debate is that it even exists, and how hard you can tell LeBron's focus revolves around it, which makes no sense. How can you just sweep under the rug players like Kareem, Magic, Bird, Kobe, absolute titans. Eras-defining players. Just assuming you're better than players you never had the chance to compete against is silly, and really that's one of the biiiig differences btw the two. Lebron thinks them 2 are in this fantasy duel where he's really the clear winner, MJ always had true respect for who came before him and shaped basketball into what it is, and knows that there is no GOAT in reality, it's just a made up word. LeBron's focus is on trying to control the narrative that he feels entitled to and wants around his name, even spanning into the past and future; Michael's focus was on his opponent, that's it. Just wanted to obliterate them and win a ring at the end of the year, nothing else.
Since Michael Jordan retired, the Chicago Bulls have become a team that can't win championships. Watching the Bulls since he retired makes me realize how much influence Jordan had.
From 2011 to today lebron has had help, more help then any other player in nba history i would argue and still blames everybody but himself when he comes up short in the finals.
Not a big LeBron fan be tbf he played against more skilled teams than MJ and the Bulls did. Not to say MJ didn’t have competition, but would 90s Bulls get 6 titles if they were playing against a team like Golden State with prime Curry, Draymond, Thompson and Durant? I’m not sure to be honest.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Lebron fans need to pick a side, either Lebron is old and isn't that guy anymore, or he is still better than ever. You can't choose both. And clearly there is a right side
If Lebron was acting like this and he was still with the Cavs and never left, that would be completely understandable and a different story, but he's on the freaking Lakers and had AD putting up monstrous stats. Is he hoping he gets a Magic or an MJ or a Kobe to come and bail him out? Smh...
For someone considered to be the greatest of his sport he is the greatest loser among all sports..those players mentioned would never with a ring or two even be considered among the greatest LeLe a Loser
Right now better than LeBron Luka Jokic Giannis Tatum Embiid Curry Leonard SGA Jimmy Butler Bam and more. He is 39. He should be taking a smaller role and helping his team like Kareem, Duncan and others did in the past
@@tw3314 I don't care about all time. Right now there are a whole lot of players better than him. Most people have him top five all time. He isn't a top five player anymore
he’s had more help then everyone in the history of the league and still refuses to take any accountability for his L’s. always and injury excuse. or let’s blame and fire the coaches let’s blame and trade away whoever
KD on warriors is not the greatest team ever? you're delusional, LBJ faced the MOST competition lmfao, I don't see MJ going through spurs, warriors, or nuggets tbh
@@demolisherOfMoneynuggets?aren’t even on the 1991 lakers or 1993 suns or the 1996 sonics level casual.the spurs were old look at the age of the players Tim Duncan:38 Manu:36 Tony:33 Tracy magrady:34 Kawhi24 lol casual every team mj faced are better than them the warriors are overrated they went to game 7 vs the thunder and you call them the greatest lol stop it
@@Kingchasethebag-yeah Exactly! Despite their 73-9 regular season record, the 2016 Warriors were just 12-5 in the playoffs going into the NBA finals, which is not exactly "dominant". And it still took Kyrie Irving's heroics and Draymond Green's ejection to save LeBron from yet another finals loss.
Even if this guy reached 6 rings.. it doesn't erase the low points. The quitting in games, the lack of playing D, the stat padding, flopping..hell, i think its rediculous how people automatically plug him into #2 as if there is no question.. you can't erase his shortfalls.
Really?, Kyrie,Kevin, as examples of max players going AWOL after bron left , I think players can't cope with added pressure of being on a LeBron team in playoffs with all the MJ vs LeBron debates on TV.
@@simongunn7956 Ingram, Westbrook, Bosh, Kyle Korver, JR Smith etc all did better when they weren’t on his team, better averages. He ruins the flow of the game for his teammates so he can get stats, that’s why the Lakers are a 500 team with or without him
The media and the NBA did a disservice to the game. They forced-fed Lebron down everybody’s throat. This guy is not even in the same galaxy as MJ. It’s not even close.
You see how jordan takes accountability, while lebron talks about his stats and basically passes the buck, this is why jordan is reveared and lebron is the FAKE goat
Always look forward to one of your casts! Not because I believe or support everything you say but you at least truly balance your arguments! Keep up the great work!
You know this made me add criteria to my all time rankings players who built a dynasty or had a dynastic run would go higher in overall rankings. And guys that never won but got their team deep consistent playoff runs should be higher than guys who also never won but had lack luster post season history.
When Lebron gets bailed out by the refs (this means more points from the foul line), most of his points come from uncontested dunks and layups, he travels more than the circus, he constantly dislodges players to get close to the basket, he now has assists that aren't assists, and he is always bailing on his team on defense I have to ask....why was he ever seen as a viable top player or a player that could even be compared to Kobe, Bird, Magic, or Kareem much less MJ?
The role players often struggle because they don't play in a real offense with player and ball movement. LeBron has it so he is the offense dominating the ball majority of the game while his teammates are waiting to see if he gonna shoot it or pass it. Dude will turn you into a spot up shooter even if you're not.
I just watched The Last Dance again and I forget how much of a grind it was for everyone to even become a team.. It literally took up until the 91 Finals.. So lebron needing more and more is clearly a lebron issue because great teammates win with what they have.. MJ 3peatn with Bill Cartwright and John Paxson etc.. Bron doesn't even have a winning Finals record and he's played with 4 MVPs🤣 and nobody have 6Ls but him.. But somehow it's the coaches, teammates, organization fault etc.. Ah yes, anything for LeQueen Blames❤
what? MJ didn't win anything until Larry bird retired, isiah thomas and the pistons became injury ridden, and the Team was diluted with limited free agency during an expansion era.
@@richgreene5038 no no, Pistons overcame Celtics and eventually after a grueling 4 years Bulls overcome 2 time champions Detroit Pistons.. No injury ridden or old, Bulls built up the dynasty and beat them.. So, nah..
@@juliuscaesar6994 this 🤡 just said D rose shaq in Russ and you brought up Ben Wallace lmaoo thanks for the laugh not even gonna take you SERIOUSLY BRON>Mj
You did Jerry wrong with that Space Jam refference😂😂 great video as usual, like the last one, showing all of them saying the team was deep and Championship material😂
I don't either. One by one... go down the list and ask if he's really better than xxxx... and he just keeps falling. Only the 20 years stat packing keeps him relevant
I’m a lifelong Kobe Bryant fan, but this channel became a LeBron hate page. I’m not sure why either, since I liked your content. I’m not a LeBron fan, but I like when people cover content correctly. Now the fact that you’re identifying stat padding with LeBron is an incredibly poor take considering every superstar had this mentality for some time. If you knew anything about basketball, you’d know that prior to the Triangle, Michael Jordan was also stat padding. MJ is my GOAT, he always will be, but the fact that you’re attempting to demean any great player’s legacy proves your lack of knowledge when it comes to hoops. Be a fan of basketball, not a critic of greatness. Appreciate every great player because there is a reason they are great. Very poor content, and you seriously come off like a hater. Be better.
The debate should be... LeBron James vs. James Harden. That is a close matchup. Then the winner between those guys can fight to get into the top 20 discussion. Harden didn't get the ring, but his game is similar and he had a better peak.
Thanks for this timely video. I was just on UA-cam yesterday mentioning his stat padding to his worshippers. This is more proof for me to shut them up.
Who's the more impressive athlete: 1) a guy who can bench press the weight of 10-12 other people 2) a guy who needs help to bench press the weight of 7-9 other people Lebron fans have no idea how badly they're hurting their argument every time they say he needs more help.
The best players are the types that majorly make others think twice about wanting to face them. Like prime Derrick Rose for example, or the great Larry Bird, guys that will embarrass you, demoralize you, and frankly, show you that they're able to beat you at your every best; night in, night out. Michael Jordan, and Kobe Bryant embodied that. Nobody ever scared of Lebron James.
That’s because he don’t have a teammate who DGAF about standing up in the locker room and asking: say brah, who your son supposed to get minutes over? And point to each PG or SG, AR, Dlo, Max, Jalen, Mays, which one? Who you sending your media hounds after to make this happen?
The 2018 cavs team slander is ridiculous. D rose d wade channing frye jae crowder prime kevin love. Many more too but they claim lebron had to drag bums like 2007.
And that can’t claim that… don’t care who was on the team… YOU CAN NOT BE TOP TWO IN YOUR CONFERENCE AND REFER TO IT AS A DRAG JOB !!!!! Just off ur seeding ur projection is to meet the #1 seed in the conference finals… so PLEEEEEEZE!!! STOP THE BS DRAG JOB ARGUMENT….what Jimmy pulled off with the heat is a drag job!!!! Dudes were literally one game from being eliminated from even making the playoffs and they end up making a run to the finals… NOW THATS A DRAG JOB!!!!
I'm a Lakers fan, and even as a fan it's obnoxious to listen LeBron excuses when the team is on a bad streak, but then the team is on a fantastic one, everything is "thanks to him" What about Davis, Russell, or Reaves who are great players too and they carried the team when he was injured and show that LeBron was not needed
Alot of these young lebron fans they never saw his choke job in 2011 against the mavericks and getting out played by jason terry who is 6ft and 34 years old bench player for this finals alone is the reason he will never pass mj among other reasons
They should just not involve lebron in the offense, just play 4v5 on offense just like his teammates have to do on defense. Nothing would change except they would probably win more games, miss less shots (especially free throws), and would take far less blame. “Just stand around lebron, we got this.” That’s what I would tell him. “You need your rest.”
Do you understand how much money LeBron makes for the NBA? They'd wheel him out on the baseline in a wheelchair each game as long as merch sales kept up
LBJ fans out here telling us Silver medal is better than Gold.
He's not even silver.
Bronze 🥉, not even silver 🥈
Lebronze
They think 4>6
😂😂😂 Second-place mindset FTW
LeBron lacks the most important feature. Integrity
And loyalty.
Integrity is what builds the human magnetic field, or “aura”.
When someone says someone has a strong “aura”, you can tell that person has strong integrity.
@@AntiZionistsEatShithe ruined the whole loyalty thing now you have ppl going to make superteams
@@AntiZionistsEatShitAnd accountability. He needs to take responsibility for his failures, yet in the best narcissistic way, he deflects by being GM LeBron, blaming others, etc.
He also lacks toughness and humility.
😂 LeBron says so much trifling stuff that I don't understand how he still has so many delusional fans
That’s what I’m saying Lecrybaby is such a clown hate the dude
They're in denial!
It's a bit like the relation between a politician and his fans
all young or very stupid, no way a decent man would like Lebron
They're a cult that's why. A bunch of losers who've never been apart of anything
He has traded about 140+ players but yet he is considered top 5.
For real
No pippen, no jordan LOL
@@icyy9459no Anthony Davis,no dwade,no Chris Bosh,no Larry Hughes,no Kevin love ,no Kyrie,no Antwun Jamison,no ray allen,no Shaq,there’s no lebron
@@icyy9459that would make Pip top 3 all time then.lmao
How high do you rank Pip
Lmao
I thought he made his players better according to his fans! How you make your players better but need to trade them all the time?
James has longevity stats. He's hasn't put up scoring we've never seen before or rebounding or steals or blocks, assists ect. He needed so much help, played with so many all-stars and yet still couldn't get it done more times than not. He's a false profit
He's getting high stats on a bad team. His stats are mostly padding and empty and do not make any difference in the outcome of the game.
LBJ is the GREATEST RUNNER of ALL TIME #FACTS
And Jordan and Kobe have?
@@tw3314 Kobe scored 81 in a game 2nd to Wilts 100. MJ has the highest ppg average of all time so yeah
@@raurmanproductions3438u might be one of the most braindead people ive ever seen
It was never close you guys. MJ’s standard is far too high that we haven’t even discussed how he suddenly leaped past all these (over a dozen easily) other greats along the way. _NO ANTICS OF THIS VARIETY AMONG THEM._ LeNeverTopTen
I got Kareem, Kobe, Duncan and Magic over LeBron
🤡🤡
@@Jimbo-Slice717 No Wilt Chamberlain?
@student99bg I aint mad at that
It's funny how in September-October all we heard was the Lakers won the off-season. How stacked they are. Now, it's the same old narrative with LameBron, NEEDS HELP! Dude has to be the weakest superstar ever.
Super overrated!!
not only weakest, but also the most hated and disgusting superstar of all sports of all time.
But what about the in season championship I just won said Leloser 😂😂😂
@@Cdrill535I am the champion of my second grade spelling bee why am I not regarded as a mastermind 😂😂
I’ve been watching sports for close to 40 years. I have NEVER heard of any athlete who needs help as much as LeBronze. When MJ was losing to the Pistons I never heard “Jordan needs more help”. Nope, it’s only LeBronze. No other athlete has ever had the media constantly repeating the “LeBronze needs help!” mantra like LeBronze gets. And the guy can be surrounded by the best players in the game and he’ll STILL get swept in the finals.
Lebron is only mentioned with MJ because the media hyped him up way too much.
Facts real 1s know.how did he jump over Kobe & Duncan is wild 2 me
One thing I really noticed over the last few days that changed after LA beat the Clippers was how the headlines changed the order of things. After the Clippers victory I saw a bunch of headlines that started out like "LeBron Scores 25 as the Lakers beat the Clippers." But over the course of the recent losses the headlines read more like. "Lakers lose despite LeBron 34" or in the case of his lower scoring outings "Lakers fall to..." It's a subtle change but notice LeBron is first for the victories but the organization is first in the defeats.
@@yeelahowah7476 what is your favorite team in the NFL?
Lebron blames.....
Kobe won with Pau Gasol back to back while LeBron can't win with Anthony Davis 😂 smh
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MJ would've loved to have AD.
IN THE 2000’s WEST TOO
He did win a ring with AD, and the next year AD got injured. Are u drunk or just uneducated?
@@Robss_bubble ring is not counted hahahha
Getting 28 in a game is getting 7 points a quarter.
2 layups and a 3 in each quarter.
So there's alot of other things that factor on the court, like DEFENSE.
LeBron is too good playing defense. That's sooooo beneath him lol
I’m not a Bron hater but I caught my group chat being hypocrites the other day, they were complaining about how Bron needs help that the supporting cast needs to change but I told them before the season & before this recent stretch they loved the supporting cast but after one bad stretch of basketball they basically want a complete overhaul of the roster & I called them on it, Lebron fans are really unbelievable
They’re the dingleberries of the basketball community
There the same people that can’t be bothered to watch a game. Just read the headlines and watch goofs like bill “only two years till she’s 18” Simmons. Not to mention sambo Perkins the biggest snake in the world. Anyone who believes this narrative I write off as delusional in all aspects of life.
It’s not about help it’s the others besides AD being CONSISTENT
@@tw3314 - so you’re blaming “the others” for being inconsistent? You do realise that does come down to training and that will come down to the captain/head coach of the team, as they’re the leaders 🤷♂️
@@bGzzzzzyes cuz lebron can make his teammates hit their shots and not be ass good to know
LeBron James: "I'm averaging a triple double in the Finals, I'm pretty good" while losing.
Michael Jordan: "I have to do a better job of playing with my teammates" also while losing.
This right here is enough to end ANY supposed GOAT debate involving James. End of story.
One is about actually BEING great, and the other is about telling people how great he thinks he is.
😂😂😂
Absolutely insane.
"I can't win with larry legend and isiah thomas dominating me every season. I need the architect jerry Krause to build be a dynasty team with a great coach during this diluted expansion era."
@@richgreene5038"I need Dwayne Wade, Pat Riley, Ray Allen, Chris Bosh, Anthony Davis, Rajon Rondo, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, Dwight Howard, and the hundreds of teammates and coaches fired along the way to win measely 4 rings (one from a skirmish bubble title in Disney) in 10 tries...
Also I wet my pants being guarded by JJ Barrea in 2011, and Choked on Dirk who had flu that week" 🤣🤣
Michael Jordan scored 51 at Age 38 on December 29, 2001. LeBron James scored 25 points at Age 39 on January 7, 2023. LeBron’s fans love being casual prisoners of the moment. Smh 🤦♂️
That is cool. What about the fact that Lebron is WAY better than Jordan at age 38 & 39 with 6 more seasons & playoffs of wear and tear on him than Jordan had at the same age?
Longevity is pretty much the only thing Bron going for him now
@@phillyphan1346have you considered how far the medical field has come in 20 years? This whole debate is nothing but dumb ass straw man arguments.
Jordan was avg 22ppg on 21fga and 22/43/80 shooting splits. Ouch. Not the argument you want to make
@@phillyphan1346no he actually wasn't better at that age because Jordan had knee injuries at that stage which ended his career. Also Leflop plays in the easiest no touch defense era with all of these bums padding stats. Nice try though, I do think Leflop is on some type of PEDs too.
Anybody notice how much the league has changed since KOBE has left the league??????????.........
The issue here is the NBA will never reveal these types of analytics. It’s really bad for their product and could the damage the NBA even further. It remains to be seen, years after LBJ retires, will the truth come out? When he gets compared to the new GOAT, will they bring up all these details to hype up the new guy? At the end of the day, people actually love or absolutely hate Bron, but one thing for certain the media is the problem and they always and will continue to hype him up, as long as he makes them money.
LeBron James is the ONLY All-Time Great Player who NEVER took a franchise from the wilderness to an NBA title. Bill Russell, Kareem, Magic, Bird, Zeke, Shaq, Kobe, Timmy, Steph, and of course Michael Jordan all have this accomplishment on their resume, while the self-appointed "King" does NOT. Hell, Dirk Nowitski achieved this in 2011 and that was against LeBron's first "Super Team" that LeBron said was going to win 7 titles, but only came away with 2. It takes true greatness to take a bad or mediocre team to the very top, while LeBron could only get rings by joining teams with establised All Stars. THIS is why I'd take every one of the 11 players I mentioned (yes, Dirk too) ahead of LeBron in the GOAT debate.
Even Giannis and Jokic did it!!
bron as not top 10 is wild
@@DonSMDT "wild" the new internet lingo?
@@DonSMDT no it's not, enough players that can be placed above him with valid argument
@@iguessso1790drugs
MJ never got upset in the playoffs, hard to criticize that.
Lol mj the goat but you ack as if he never lost in the playoffs
@@christianr1941 never losing and never being upset are two different things.
@@Fixundfertig1comprehension is lost these days 🤷🏾♂️
95?
@@nicozan1608 lol no, in 95 the Chicago Bulls (5) upset the Charlotte (4) Hornets 3-1 but in the next round they couldn't upset the first seed the Orlando Magic.
When I hear Lefrauds cult say that he left Cleveland because they wouldn't build around him, I ask them what's their excuse 4 him leaving Miami and Cleveland the second time
duuuuuuuuuuuh. he didn't have enough help! they had to build around him (and because they did built around him is why he didn't win. A Pippen v2.0 wanting desperately to be MJ... who would've thought that it wouldnt work)
they wouldn't build around him
lebron wants to build his team his way and cavs/heat weren't standing for that
He left Cleveland after delivering a championship to a state that never wilon anything in any sport.
His kids schooling to help them play in better teams and opposition along with LeBron has many Business related things in California that helps make more time his family possible.
Can't say Lakers were title contenders before he joined La , if he was just after a ring asap he'd join warriors when Durant left lol.
@@simongunn7956 Cleveland Indians/Guardians won titles before
He needs more help...that is until they win something and all the credit goes solely to him
That's it plain & simple
Very true.... always come in the game late and get all his points when the game is already decided
Wilt had huge numbers too but wasn't able to win the championship. It wasn't until he started to shoot less and pass it off to allow other players to be part of the game that they were able to win. And along the way Wilt now led the league in assists. Numbers mean nothing if it doesn't result in wins and titles.
I always thought that LBJ was a better comparison to Wilt than anyone.
@@Spider-Complexionprolly cuz u got the iq of a toenail
LeBron's lack of true leadership skills show when he spit on his teammates' faces by saying Bronny could play for the Lakers right now.
You're acting like Michael Jordan didn't say worse or do worse
Meanwhile his son sucks in college
@@jarredrua7482difference is with Jordan you have to speculate with lebron there are 100s of sound bites.
@@AggravatedMan365Bronny had a cardiac episode (apparently from a congenital condition), and honestly, even if cleared to play again, he shouldn't IMO. There have been too many athletes outside of basketball who died because of heart conditions (most being undiagnosed). A reason for me to prioritise both concussions and cardiac issues equally in medical evaluations, but I digress.
@@jeromegarner7196 it's called social media, social media is something Jordan never had which means there isn't videos being played over with Jordan failing because that would discredit his god like powers according to you Jordan fans.
Why anyone is surprised that a super talented player that has been coddled and propped up since he was in high school takes zero accountability for losing is completely beyond me
If you still doubting MJ. Here's something that should shock you. In the span of 32 months, MJ won 3 finals championships, 3 finals MVP, 3 scoring titles, 2 NBA MVPs, was named All-Defensive 1st team 3 times and missed 0 games. Nobody in the history of the NBA has come close to doing that and I dare you to go look.
from MJs comment, i can deduce, he valued the relationship between him and the other players on the team over the skills they brought to the game. he was more about maximizing the skills his teammates already had. that’s a goat
To be fair player movement back in the 90s wasn’t what it is now. More players would’ve been moving if the 90s bulls played in 2024. Pippen probably would’ve requested a trade after Jordan’s retirement and there wouldn’t be another chance to three peat.
@@mattmmixesSir you are making zero sense with this statement
@@mattmmixes , lol, what? I don't think Pippen was a free agent after 1993, and he did left after 1998... your point is?
@@HeathOverledger keep being ignorant if you want but it’s undeniable players don’t stay with teams as long
@@mattmmixes bums don't. competitive players want to play competitive games. they dont want to play weak opponents and have things handed to them. they want to EARN them. they want to beat the best. that's what changed. players are soft and dont care enough to fight for the trophy or their legacy.
What annoys the most about the Jordan-LeBron debate is that it even exists, and how hard you can tell LeBron's focus revolves around it, which makes no sense. How can you just sweep under the rug players like Kareem, Magic, Bird, Kobe, absolute titans. Eras-defining players.
Just assuming you're better than players you never had the chance to compete against is silly, and really that's one of the biiiig differences btw the two.
Lebron thinks them 2 are in this fantasy duel where he's really the clear winner, MJ always had true respect for who came before him and shaped basketball into what it is, and knows that there is no GOAT in reality, it's just a made up word.
LeBron's focus is on trying to control the narrative that he feels entitled to and wants around his name, even spanning into the past and future; Michael's focus was on his opponent, that's it. Just wanted to obliterate them and win a ring at the end of the year, nothing else.
Since Michael Jordan retired, the Chicago Bulls have become a team that can't win championships.
Watching the Bulls since he retired makes me realize how much influence Jordan had.
Jerry’s let the one golden goose simply walk away to rebuild with Tim Floyd, Andrew Lang and Kornel David. Modern day travesty.
The only way Bron wins more rings is to take the Shaq route. Put on 4-5 different jerseys to do so….
Lebron fan out there saying losing more in finals is better than winning 😂
Lakers need to trade LeGM
Lakers were down by 17pts with 40 seconds left…he was still in making pointless layups…..
He needs to feed his fanboys. The stat line is more important than the game.
Uncut and Skap spitting facts day in day out!
From 2011 to today lebron has had help, more help then any other player in nba history i would argue and still blames everybody but himself when he comes up short in the finals.
He didn't have more help than Bill.
@@PhillipCummingsUSA not even
Not a big LeBron fan be tbf he played against more skilled teams than MJ and the Bulls did.
Not to say MJ didn’t have competition, but would 90s Bulls get 6 titles if they were playing against a team like Golden State with prime Curry, Draymond, Thompson and Durant?
I’m not sure to be honest.
@@SwampTrooper2005you already exposed yourself
I mean how many bad finals series has he had? I’d say 2 with 2007, 2014,2017 and 2018 it was just a complete mismatch of talent on the other side.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Lebron fans need to pick a side, either Lebron is old and isn't that guy anymore, or he is still better than ever. You can't choose both. And clearly there is a right side
The thumbnail for this video deserves an award. I can't stop laughing.
If Lebron was acting like this and he was still with the Cavs and never left, that would be completely understandable and a different story, but he's on the freaking Lakers and had AD putting up monstrous stats. Is he hoping he gets a Magic or an MJ or a Kobe to come and bail him out? Smh...
He thinks it's the olympics
@@PantherDeNoir Yes! Kobe made me proud of the US Men's Basketball Olympic Team again.
@@evifnoskcajkeyword AD name another reliable player??
and it's always his teammates and coach's fault.
Arguably the greatest loser of all time
Facts 💯
Westbrook, Harden, Karl Malone??
Insanely bad take
For someone considered to be the greatest of his sport he is the greatest loser among all sports..those players mentioned would never with a ring or two even be considered among the greatest
LeLe a Loser
@@sosaraycharles358lmao
Right now better than LeBron
Luka
Jokic
Giannis
Tatum
Embiid
Curry
Leonard
SGA
Jimmy Butler
Bam
and more. He is 39. He should be taking a smaller role and helping his team like Kareem, Duncan and others did in the past
No shit they’re all younger in there prime and why tf would he do that 🤡🤡
@@tw3314 so how is LeBron top five
@@clanwaddell5628 ALL TIME NOT NOW DUHH
@@tw3314 I don't care about all time. Right now there are a whole lot of players better than him. Most people have him top five all time. He isn't a top five player anymore
@@clanwaddell5628 like I said they’re all YOUNGER IN THERE PRIME and even then he’s still a top 10 player RIGHT NOW
he’s had more help then everyone in the history of the league and still refuses to take any accountability for his L’s. always and injury excuse. or let’s blame and fire the coaches let’s blame and trade away whoever
FACTS!!!!
KD on warriors is not the greatest team ever? you're delusional, LBJ faced the MOST competition lmfao, I don't see MJ going through spurs, warriors, or nuggets tbh
@@demolisherOfMoneynuggets?aren’t even on the 1991 lakers or 1993 suns or the 1996 sonics level casual.the spurs were old look at the age of the players
Tim Duncan:38
Manu:36
Tony:33
Tracy magrady:34
Kawhi24
lol casual every team mj faced are better than them the warriors are overrated they went to game 7 vs the thunder and you call them the greatest lol stop it
@@demolisherOfMoney MJ>Steph, Pippen>Klay, Rodman>Draymond, KD>Kukoc, Phil Jackson> Kerr. So no, KD on warriors is not the greatest team ever.
@@Kingchasethebag-yeah Exactly! Despite their 73-9 regular season record, the 2016 Warriors were just 12-5 in the playoffs going into the NBA finals, which is not exactly "dominant". And it still took Kyrie Irving's heroics and Draymond Green's ejection to save LeBron from yet another finals loss.
Lol when LeBron loses it's "we" but when LeBron wins "that one right there, made me the greatest of all-time"
2014 finals was a stat padding Masterpiece
Even if this guy reached 6 rings.. it doesn't erase the low points. The quitting in games, the lack of playing D, the stat padding, flopping..hell, i think its rediculous how people automatically plug him into #2 as if there is no question.. you can't erase his shortfalls.
Lebron vs MJ is a joke of a debate.
I think one of the biggest misconceptions about him is that he makes his teammates better when most of them have done better after he or they leave
Really?, Kyrie,Kevin, as examples of max players going AWOL after bron left ,
I think players can't cope with added pressure of being on a LeBron team in playoffs with all the MJ vs LeBron debates on TV.
@@simongunn7956 Ingram, Westbrook, Bosh, Kyle Korver, JR Smith etc all did better when they weren’t on his team, better averages. He ruins the flow of the game for his teammates so he can get stats, that’s why the Lakers are a 500 team with or without him
@@simongunn7956 I don’t think Lebron can handle the pressure either considering how horrible he is in the fourth quarter of Finals alone
The media and the NBA did a disservice to the game. They forced-fed Lebron down everybody’s throat. This guy is not even in the same galaxy as MJ. It’s not even close.
You see how jordan takes accountability, while lebron talks about his stats and basically passes the buck, this is why jordan is reveared and lebron is the FAKE goat
The most "helped" superstar in NBA history
LJ and Lemedia diminish the value of teammates to elevate Lebron. close to 40% of Lebron's total points came from assists by teammates.
Always look forward to one of your casts! Not because I believe or support everything you say but you at least truly balance your arguments! Keep up the great work!
3:59 that's huge, that alone should put the whole Jordan/Lebron comparisons to rest, huge contrast between Jordan and Lebron.
You know this made me add criteria to my all time rankings players who built a dynasty or had a dynastic run would go higher in overall rankings. And guys that never won but got their team deep consistent playoff runs should be higher than guys who also never won but had lack luster post season history.
When Lebron gets bailed out by the refs (this means more points from the foul line), most of his points come from uncontested dunks and layups, he travels more than the circus, he constantly dislodges players to get close to the basket, he now has assists that aren't assists, and he is always bailing on his team on defense I have to ask....why was he ever seen as a viable top player or a player that could even be compared to Kobe, Bird, Magic, or Kareem much less MJ?
The role players often struggle because they don't play in a real offense with player and ball movement. LeBron has it so he is the offense dominating the ball majority of the game while his teammates are waiting to see if he gonna shoot it or pass it. Dude will turn you into a spot up shooter even if you're not.
Bron always needs more weapon. Jordan IS THE WEAPON. Thats the difference
Comparing MJ and Lebron is like comparing Bolt and Gatlin.
I just watched The Last Dance again and I forget how much of a grind it was for everyone to even become a team.. It literally took up until the 91 Finals.. So lebron needing more and more is clearly a lebron issue because great teammates win with what they have.. MJ 3peatn with Bill Cartwright and John Paxson etc.. Bron doesn't even have a winning Finals record and he's played with 4 MVPs🤣 and nobody have 6Ls but him.. But somehow it's the coaches, teammates, organization fault etc.. Ah yes, anything for LeQueen Blames❤
what? MJ didn't win anything until Larry bird retired, isiah thomas and the pistons became injury ridden, and the Team was diluted with limited free agency during an expansion era.
Name the 4 mvps
@@richgreene5038 no no, Pistons overcame Celtics and eventually after a grueling 4 years Bulls overcome 2 time champions Detroit Pistons.. No injury ridden or old, Bulls built up the dynasty and beat them.. So, nah..
@@juliuscaesar6994 this 🤡 just said D rose shaq in Russ and you brought up Ben Wallace lmaoo thanks for the laugh not even gonna take you SERIOUSLY
BRON>Mj
Great content great show!
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You did Jerry wrong with that Space Jam refference😂😂 great video as usual, like the last one, showing all of them saying the team was deep and Championship material😂
I personally don't have LBJ in my top 10 lol
I don't either. One by one... go down the list and ask if he's really better than xxxx... and he just keeps falling. Only the 20 years stat packing keeps him relevant
Hahahahahahah.......................................I was not ready for Eric Cartman
I’m a lifelong Kobe Bryant fan, but this channel became a LeBron hate page. I’m not sure why either, since I liked your content. I’m not a LeBron fan, but I like when people cover content correctly. Now the fact that you’re identifying stat padding with LeBron is an incredibly poor take considering every superstar had this mentality for some time. If you knew anything about basketball, you’d know that prior to the Triangle, Michael Jordan was also stat padding. MJ is my GOAT, he always will be, but the fact that you’re attempting to demean any great player’s legacy proves your lack of knowledge when it comes to hoops. Be a fan of basketball, not a critic of greatness. Appreciate every great player because there is a reason they are great. Very poor content, and you seriously come off like a hater. Be better.
Jordan needed Pippen and Phil Jackson. LeHelp needs Anthony Davis, Lonzo Ball and the showtime era team.
Is this where the Jordan riders/Lebron haters go? 😂
Your daddy will never be the goat. He can keep pumping himself full of steroids and play another 20 seasons lmao
And yet you are here
Welcome to the new era, where CEO’s blame the janitors for their company failing
The debate should be... LeBron James vs. James Harden. That is a close matchup. Then the winner between those guys can fight to get into the top 20 discussion. Harden didn't get the ring, but his game is similar and he had a better peak.
The same LeBron fans who use his stats to defend him are the same people who say guys like Westbrook and Kobe were selfish stat padders.
Thanks for this timely video. I was just on UA-cam yesterday mentioning his stat padding to his worshippers. This is more proof for me to shut them up.
Who's the more impressive athlete:
1) a guy who can bench press the weight of 10-12 other people
2) a guy who needs help to bench press the weight of 7-9 other people
Lebron fans have no idea how badly they're hurting their argument every time they say he needs more help.
The best players are the types that majorly make others think twice about wanting to face them. Like prime Derrick Rose for example, or the great Larry Bird, guys that will embarrass you, demoralize you, and frankly, show you that they're able to beat you at your every best; night in, night out. Michael Jordan, and Kobe Bryant embodied that. Nobody ever scared of Lebron James.
Part of greatness is also learn how to lose and lear . LeFake can't do that because there is always an excuse
When Bron get his first 3peat then we’ll talk until then he don’t belong in goat conversation
That one right there made him the biggest joke of all time
Referring to your own stats as the so called leader of a team getting swept. Who else does this? Truly juvenile behavior
Funny how LBJ always needs “more help “😂
Jordan never quit before the game was over and walked off the court like Lebron has. Which lebron did more than once.
Lebum won the in season tournament. The goat debate is over.
-lebum fans. That banner is showing its worth. LOOOOL
I'm so proud of this channel. It's easy to praise lbj for fantasy basketball players for views. It's hard to tell facts
Best MJ, LeBron vid I've seen.
This is a great video with no hate and all facts. Cheers!!!
Lebron is 'Chasing a Ghost'.
That’s because he don’t have a teammate who DGAF about standing up in the locker room and asking: say brah, who your son supposed to get minutes over? And point to each PG or SG, AR, Dlo, Max, Jalen, Mays, which one? Who you sending your media hounds after to make this happen?
Lebron needs to learn from MJ and Bill Russels mentality.
LeBron's teammates have to make sure he get's his stats and win for him.
The 2018 cavs team slander is ridiculous. D rose d wade channing frye jae crowder prime kevin love. Many more too but they claim lebron had to drag bums like 2007.
rose, wade, and crowder were all traded at the deadline that year
And that can’t claim that… don’t care who was on the team… YOU CAN NOT BE TOP TWO IN YOUR CONFERENCE AND REFER TO IT AS A DRAG JOB !!!!! Just off ur seeding ur projection is to meet the #1 seed in the conference finals… so PLEEEEEEZE!!! STOP THE BS DRAG JOB ARGUMENT….what Jimmy pulled off with the heat is a drag job!!!! Dudes were literally one game from being eliminated from even making the playoffs and they end up making a run to the finals… NOW THATS A DRAG JOB!!!!
@@MVNYO truth
Lebron always take credit when winning but cannot be blamed for losing even he had the most ball possession 😂
Its not about finals wins, its about finals apperances… wait, wot?
stats without the chips/wins argument is 💩..
I'm a Lakers fan, and even as a fan it's obnoxious to listen LeBron excuses when the team is on a bad streak, but then the team is on a fantastic one, everything is "thanks to him"
What about Davis, Russell, or Reaves who are great players too and they carried the team when he was injured and show that LeBron was not needed
The🐐MJ>The 🤡 LBJ
Alot of these young lebron fans they never saw his choke job in 2011 against the mavericks and getting out played by jason terry who is 6ft and 34 years old bench player for this finals alone is the reason he will never pass mj among other reasons
They should just not involve lebron in the offense, just play 4v5 on offense just like his teammates have to do on defense. Nothing would change except they would probably win more games, miss less shots (especially free throws), and would take far less blame. “Just stand around lebron, we got this.” That’s what I would tell him. “You need your rest.”
My favourite basketball related channel, keep up the great work💯👍
Do you understand how much money LeBron makes for the NBA? They'd wheel him out on the baseline in a wheelchair each game as long as merch sales kept up
"Lebron James": i DONT CARE if U averaged a 'triple-double' ['it' DONT MATTER], if YOU LOST!
If he was like mj's mindset to his teammates he too can build a dinasty as mj did and he can surpass what mj did.
LEBRON, YOU NEED HELP- JUST JOIN THE CLIPPERS- YOU WON'T START, BUT MAYBE PLAY THE SECOND FIDDLE. 😂
Viewership and interest for the NBA will sky rocket once Lebum finally decides to retire.
When Kobe put up “good stats” in 2008 they said he couldn’t win without Shaq
Love that Jerry Krause quote. Says everything about Jordan’s ‘taking it personally’ attitude.